keto vs calorie counting

should also note this is for weightloss

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keto is a shitty fad diet. Calorie counting is literally science

Ketosis causes a carb craving.

>>36385803
you still have to count calories. keto is for fat redditors that will never make it

Keto doesn't break the laws of thermodynamics. Calories still matter. The idea is that by eating meat, cheese, etc. you'll be full enough naturally without counting calories.

What keto does for you, however, is break your sugar addiction - which in and of itself will make future weight loss easier for obvious reasons. When people say "Ketosis causes carb cravings", what's really happening here is that you are literally going through withdrawal symptoms. It sucks at first but the end result IS worth it.

>>36385803
Chances are you are eating too much protein to stay in ketosis, and just feel full from low calorie veggies instead of high calorie rice.

I eat mostly lean meat and vegetables on a cut with rough calorie guessing, and have fantastic results.

The whole eating clean meme is founded on the fact that a high protein, high fiber diet is filling as fuck.

Just eat meat and salad anon, shit ain't rocket science

>>36386184
>eating healthy nutritious food and running your body as optimally as possible while reducing inflammation is a fad diet

poor widdle babby can't give up his sugar

You still need to count calories on keto

>>36388041
Have you ever done keto?
You literally have to force yourself to eat more than 2000 calories if you're doing it properly
fat is extremely filling

You count calories on keto.. it's just easier imo

>>36388053
gonna call bullshit on that. I could eat 2000 calories of bunless fast food burgers fairly easily. Anything with butter or olive oil will also do the trick.

>>36385803
>versus
Wat, keto is a diet, it doesn't replace calorie counting you twat. Stupid ass fad diet to boot.

>>36388090
>bunless fast food burgers

yeah well that wouldn't be keto because of the sugar anyway

>>36386768
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>>36388041
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>>36388121
At any point did ok say he WASNT counting calories on Keto?

Unless he's absolutely retarded I assume he was talking about a traditional cut vs Keto.

>>36388138
>>36388090

plus eating 2000 calories of meat still isn't keto in itself because it's too much protein. learn what the fuck keto even is before you talk about it
keto is high FAT. most of your calories coming from butter, coconut oil, olive oil etc

>>36388175
OP implied they were mutually exclusive

>>36385803
>discernible difference
the only real difference is going to be in how your body adjusts its cravings. I don't bother with any trend diets because the ultimate result is going to be the same: calories in, calories out.
and it's nice to have a beer or a muffin as a reward for good results every couple weeks.

>>36387987
>Ketosis is literally an emergency mechanism against a carb deficit
>Blood becomes slightly acidic
>Acetone breath and teeth damage
>High fat diet fucking up liver
>Depriving your body of carbs, its main source of energy.

>Maximum efficiency