Start your cut NOW

But I need to keep bulking so my lifts go up

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hmm, thanx I guess. But I am still gonna wait until march for the cut, only need to lose 2-3kg breh

>>35640809
Thanks breh, was gonna start in February but I'm not good at self control so might as well start now.

>>35640809
I'd like to complete my weight loss by that time. How likely is it that I can drop the 60lbs I have left by June 1st?

What if I'm planning on running an EC stack

>>35641831
I'm tryna lose 40 by summer and so far I've lost like 8lbs in the past couple weeks really easily. We can do it senpai

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Can anyone give me an estimate on how many weeks away I am from 10% ? Could I get there by june?

>>35640809
Thanks for the reminded, was about to order that fucking pizza. Guess I'll just make an omelet or some shit.

>>35640809

>mfw started to cut on 01/05/16
>One Week later, got ill
>still on going
>mfw I have no face

>>35640809

most people "cutting" have zero muscle and will look like auschwitz survivors if they do cut.

there is NO POINT in cutting if you look like a fucking twink.

none.

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>>35641934
"cutting" should not even be a word in your vocabulary until you bulk for at least one straight year, skelly boy.

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>>35641934
Hello fellow skeleton

>>35641934
Thank you Mr skeletal

>>35640816
This, I'll cut in February

I live in Wisconsin so winter lasts forever

>>35641934
>Could I get there by june?
Yes, but you really shouldn't.

>>35640809
Roughly how many pounds is that per week, like 0.5-1lb ?

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>>35641934
THANK MR SKELTAL!!!!!!!!!!

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>>35642057
>>35642065
>>35642066
yeah I know I have a lot of muscle to gain but it's just that I've been cutting for well over a year now and honestly I'd rather just get to 10% once and be done with it, and then lean bulk.

>>35640809
This. I'm going for the slow-cut now (.5-1lb a week) to go from 235lbs at a bodyfat I estimate to be about 22% and finally maybe see abs for the first time ever.

>>35642150
That's a good cut but you seriously need to start bulking now

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Tbqh I'm forever small so I was gonna keep bulking through the spring (I live in FL it's summer 9 months out of the year anyway)

What does /fit/ think?

>>35642150
good cut, but you will only look worse if you keep cutting. you will definitely look better if you start bulking now. also, it will be easier to cut later with more muscle.

good luck brah

>>35642194
It's time to cut Ramses

I started last week.

Finally finished up the holiday food and already feel loads better now that the water weight is off.

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Different guy. Is it possible for me to get to 10% BF by the end of March? I want to get lean for the first time in my life so I can actually slow bulk without feeling bad.

My face is fat and ugly as fuck so that doesn't help my psyche on bulking.

My lifts are garbage atm but I'm slowly improving them on a cut.

BP: 150 3x5
OHP: 100 3x5
DL 250 1x5
Squat 185 3x5

I think I am around 20%. Does that seem accurate? I can't find my calipers and I haven't used them in forever.

>>35642301
christ mate shave your nipple hair

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>>35642301

I'm 165-170 lbs atm

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>>35640809
Alright anon kun. Thanks for the head up. Do your best.

>>35642322
dyel tho m8, theres no definition under there

>>35642037
Not even in this thread but I'd rather be Jack Skellington than Oogey Boogey at the beach, right?

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>>35640809
Keep cutting till after summer or bulk? Wasnt intending on taking a before/after so ignore retarded hand on first photo

>>35642419
I know nigga but I don't want to bulk when I'm 20% BF

Resumed my cut New Years day. 40lbs left to lose. Should hopefully have lost 30 of that by the summer.

>>35642468
Take this post with a grain of salt, its mostly bait. You need to bulk mate. A good 4-5 months then get a small cut in. Just bulk slowly

>>35642490
It aint bait m8. First picture was when I used to drink like 5 beers everyday and eat complete shit all day every day. Went on and off low carb high fat worked out 3 days a week and cardio every day apart from sunday. Shit worked.

>>35642559
No, OP is b8ing with the thread. You are at the point where a lean bulk would do you good. You have some definition. A little more and you would look pretty good m8. keep it up

>>35642624
I see, thanks mate.

>>35640809
>Knowing most of you, you are sitting around 20% body fat
u think people here lift?

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Would I end up as a skelly? 1,90m 90kg

>>35642150
why didn't you lift?

>>35642702
Not sure if total skelly but it would define your inner chest more

>>35640809
Why bother?
I have no friends to go to the beach with, and I won't be talking to bikini qts anyway

>>35642468
Ben?

>>35644116

You won't with that attitude, anon.

You can do it

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>implying I need to cut
>implying I don't need to eat big to get big

skinny feels

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Currently 190lb. Was planning to bulk to 200 before cutting; should I just start now instead?

>>35644642
cut down to what?

>>35644664
To whenever abs become visible

>>35644672

this meme will never die will it

>>35644672
do you actually work your core? that would be a good start, I honestly can't see it. You can work core every day, do that

>>35644672
You'll never make it.

>>35640809
THANKS MR. CUT MAN

>>35644693
I do planks. Though I haven't been doing them everyday. I'll get on that. I also just got an ab wheel, really shit at using it currently.

>>35640809
>belly button piercing

Absolutely disgusting

starting my cut in 3 weeks senpai.

>>35644640
Ay pham, I'm in the same boat (>>35642194)

What do you do for chest?

Started my cut 2 days ago following a PSMF.
>tfw y'all niggas gonna be cutting for 20weeks
>tfw I'll be cutting for 4-6
>feelsgood.jpg

Actually I lied, I feel lethargic AF.

>started bulking on december
>already gained a lot of weight
>gonna start a 12-week test-e cycle in a month
>planning to bulk like a fucking madman during the cycle
kek I guess I'll just get DNP and shed some of the fat quickly before it gets warm enough to go out on the beach

I'm 6'0, 170 lbs, probably 20% bf. any diet ideas? I do HIIT and lift but I eat like shit.

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Tfw you're gonna start bulking in february

what exactly is the point of cutting just for a couple of days at the beach?

i assume most of you are getting laid regularly and you dont let that detail interfere with your workout and diet

so a couple of strangers being impressed for a second by my body isnt motivation enough compared to those long term goals

>>35645286
well you can't stay on a permabulk forever unless of course you want to be a disgusting fatass claiming to be lifting for strength only

>>35645308

there's a balance between eating right and just "permabulking"

also the amount of effort it would take for me to become a fatass would be greater than squatting 4plate

>bulking above 12% bodyfat ever
Have fun looking like shit half of the year. No reason you ever need to be above 12% if you cycle your diet and lean bulk. Gained 10 lbs of LBM in a year and never went above 12%

literally2 1/2 weeks ahead of you at 600-1000 kcal a day. Can't trust my scale but down by at least 7 lbs at this point.

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>>35645286
>i assume most of you are getting laid regularly
Hah, jokes on you anon

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I have been on a cut for a year. Down almost 100lbs.

>>35645513
impressive as fuck lad

>>35645513
Seriously, very impressed, any before/after pictures? What was your diet like? I lost around 20-30 lbs doing 1500-1700 a day, but now hit a plateau and don't know what to do.

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>tfw going to low dose dnp along with ec stack
>tfw going to eat 1700 calories low carbs
>tfw gonna be shredded within 10 weeks brehs

>>35645286
>Anonymous 01/17/16(Sun)12:09:31 No.3564
Well I mean i think it just fits with body insulation
>cut in winter = cold winter nights
>bulk in winter = cosier winter nights
And you obviously cant stay in bulk all year round, so cut in summer and boom you just happen to be around the grills

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b-but i want to keep bulking

>>35646145
Did you even put on any lean mass? Youre like 30% BF lol

>>35646145
Mirin calves but you really need a cut. You're definitely medically overweight, minuscule muscle gains and slightly higher lifts isn't worth the damage to your health. Also it's unaesthetic as fuck

>>35645683
You're gonna die dude

>>35640816
>>35640809
>not cruising down a body recomp til summer
>"cutting"
found the GOMAD fags

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Any idea how I'd look? I'm 6'3" 190 lbs

>>35642464
or you can clean bulk and look decent instead of being a skelly

>>35640809
Only need to cut about 10lbs to be beach ready and won't actually get to the beach until mid july
I'm bulking until april.

>>35646297
whats yer stats

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Should I continue my cut for 3 more weeks?

Just finished 12 weeks of cutting lost approx 14lbs

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>>35642194
>>35641934
>>35642301
>>35642468
>>35642702
>>35644640
>>35645513
>>35646145
>>35646403
>these genetics
why do you guys even bother? its pointless

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>tfw ugly so it doesn't matter

What's the point /fit/?

>>35646374
275x3 squat
405x1 deadlift
205x7 bench
145x3 OHP

>>35641934
Thank you hungry skeleton

>>35642150
Should have lifted desu

>>35640809
How long should I bulk / cut for? I know the cut needs to last roughly as long as the bulk, right?

>>35640809
this was the post that got me off my ass
ty OP

>>35641934
5/10

>cutting
>beach season
Jesus fuck off normie shits

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>he didn't lean bulk
>he can't see his abs year round
You fucked up if you went over 14% at any time. Went from 170 to 182 as of an hour ago. Still about 13% bf. I'll start my cut in spring although I'd be fine going into summer like this.

>tfw I live in the south where 90% of people look like shit so even with semi visible abs I'm a fucking god

>>35642150
Trust me anon. Don't cut forever. You'll only burn off muscle that will take longer to get back. Bulk now just don't go overboard.

>>35647068
>Went from 170 to 182 as of an hour ago.

How many scoops of Mutant Mass™ did that take m8? You seem to have pretty handily left humanity behind. I'd say at least 6.5 scoops per minute to achieve that weight gain in an hour.

Bro seasons don't work like that.
It's after Halloween until st.Patrick's day.

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>>35647150
>anon in charge of reading comprehension
It means that I started at 170 and that as of an hour ago when I last checked my weight, I was 182.

>MFW cutting season is the busiest work season for me
Plz help

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>>35645286
>he's not a narcissist that gets off on people praising him
You don't belong here.

>>35645683
>carbs with dnp
>ec stack with dnp
Be sure to keep some funny tabs open for when they find your body.

>>35646801
post your body
protip:you wont

>>35646801
middle guy on the top is on nanomachines, son

>>35642150
That's not how it works

>>35646879
You get big enough and sluts won't care.

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Not even gonna front, waiting till after President's Day next month to give the gym a chance to clear out of NYR faggots enough that I can not add literally 20+ min in the lot waiting for a spot and an additional 60+ min of standing around waiting for weights/machines/anything. Gives me time to be a fat-ass and "bulk" more. Fuck it.

>>35647358
I've had literally no issues getting any equipment this year. Only thing packed is cardio bullshit.

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>>35640809
>cutting for six months
>being a sick cunt for three months during the summer
>dat three month bulk

Do you even Velocity Diet?

>>35647396
Idk what it is. I'm in a college town, and also have multiple military bases in the area, I guess. The first 2-3 months of every year see all freeweights and machines filled with faggots in snapbacks and meme shit.

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Starting cut this week


>bf% estimate

>>35647475
Pretty sure we also have the record for "most faggots wearing BEATS BY DR DRE per square foot"... I'll never understand that shit.

>tfw backne scars
I wont be able to show off my bod without people getting grossed out anyway.
might aswell wear a swimsuit.

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>>35647287
he has entered tien shinhan mode

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>>35640809
Good thing my DNP arrives in a few days

>>35647358
>Not even gonna front
Fuck you

>>35647199
Accountant?

>>35647667
Yep, audit.

>>35641925
desu

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>tfw starting back on ultra-low-carb keto IF on Monday
>tfw gonna be lean af in 12 weeks
>tfw "stack" is simply creatine hcl, alpha lipoic acid, glucosamine, glutamine, and a multi-vit
>tfw I always feel and look great doing it
>tfw there's nothing you can do about it

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>>35640809
>Cutting when swimming 3+ times per week
El oh el I wish.

>>35640809
I lost 52 pounds since the last time you posted this.

>>35646879
so when you see a skinny guy with a qt grill you can murder stare him until he looks away and then feel like youre better than him for the rest of the night while he takes his grill home to pound town and never thinks of you again.

>>35647509
traps much?

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>>35642301
>tfw I just measured 12% bodyfat via skinfold calipers and body measurements being inputted to 4 different websites.

Guess I'm not fat, just have literally 0 muscle. I thoguht it was a lie when I read the skinfold caliper readiing, but after taking measurements and putting them into 3 different calculators and getting 11-13% BF, I guess I'm bulkan.

wish me luck bros

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>>35640809
>me
>even thinking about cutting
Fuck no senpai. I'd rather be fat with some muscle than a complete skelly

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>>35640809
Started my cut first thing this year, i hope i'm going to be a built skelly by March

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Im at 14% bf, cutting while squating has begun

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>>35640809
Pshhh I can cut from 20% to 10% in 16 weeks. I've done it like 3 times already.

>>35641934
>give me an estimate on how many weeks away I am from 10%
-2 weeks

>>35640809
>white
>blonde
>skinny
>big tits
>wide hips
>even has a thigh gap
This girl is a 10/10 literally the definition of privilege.

>>35641934
Thanks hungry skeleton

>>35641894
Second that motion. Would like to hear from other Anons about their thoughts on an EC(A) stack

>>35648039
>shrugging 4 plates

>>35642702
Why is your chest like 14" long m8?

>>35647276
>this uneducated

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>2 month breakup cuts
>220 down to 200
>fuck around, stop counting macros 3 weeks and now back at 207
>Most is water weight but still discouraging
HOLD ME B R E H S
>half is water but still discouraging as fuck

>>35648914
Cut starting february

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>>35648919
already back on it, I feel good again not putting shit into my body but god damnit I miss the occasional kit kat

I know I'm going to get shit for this but can someone give me a tl:dr on proper cutting? The sticky only mentions "cutting" 3 times and I don't have the time to read the whole thing right now, nearly late for work as it is

>>35640809
MFW just getting back into workout @ skeletal mode. Fuck, I'm gunna be fat for summer ;__;

Started last week. Cleaned up diet, added in cardio.

Example of a 6 month bulk gone wrong. Nevar again. Also, I actually had no definition in the before picture, I was just a pity, insecure fuck who had to take a pic in the most advantageous lighting. Kinda regret it now seeing I dont have any pics of myself back then with normal lighting.

Started my cut yesterday, how low of a realistic bf% can I expect if I stick to it until June? Also, body fat estimate?

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>>35649012
shiet forgot the pic

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i just started going to the gym a lot in october, should i keep bulking or should i cut or should i lean bulk?

also since i dont have anything to test my bodyfat, could someone estimate?

i weigh 175 and am 5'10'' 23 years old

>>35642150
Don't listen to these faggots, eat at maintenancs and lift so you can make gains and get leaner

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>>35649113

Winter started like last week for me

>>35640809
OK
I WILL MAESTER
CURRENT WEIGHT IS 86.7 KILOGRAMS
I SHALL LOSE AT LEAST 10 OF THEM
AYY LMAO

>>35649021
the fuck are you talking about asshole, you look hot and strong as fuck in the second pic

awesome fucking transformation i just wish i could have those much gains

>>35640809
that bitch is an 11/10

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Thanks. Think I"ll look nice by summer and not sickly skelly mode?

>>35649118
sup tittyboy

Holy shit is this really what most of /fit/ looks like these days? I'm so fucking disappointed in you faggots.

DO NOT CUT IF YOU'RE DYEL. I REPEAT, DO NOT CUT IF YOU ARE STILL A FUCKING SKELLY.

>>35649186
that is what happens to guys who masturbate every day, you lose test and so you start to gain fat in areas females do

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I'ma just stay in husband mode thanks.

>>35649208
haha your so humble its VERY endearing text me some time will ya ;)

>>35649222
You fucking what mate?

>>35646801
Lifting or training any type of sport for someone else's approval is pointless. Sure i get it you guys want to get girls and get laid etc. But there is no way to get a body or look that will make everyone attracted to you.

And of course you might try to achieve a body that's attractive to the general public but you'll just end up having even more insecurities.

Lift and train to be strong, to feel good, to improve yourself and not to appeal to someone else.

If you don't find any joy in doing something for yourself then how will you find joy in seeking approval of girls. And sure it might feel good for the moment but you'll steadily want more, more attention, more approval and in the end you'll just end up where you started: being insecure.

And if you don't find happiness in lifting for yourself then maybe you should do something else.

>Tl;Dr lifting for girls or anyone but yourself is the truly pointless thing

>>35649311
>Lift and train to be strong, to feel good

Don't even do it for this reason. Your body, no matter the bulking or cutting or lifting or running you're doing is rotting. It's actively dying. Every second is death. So why do it?

Do it to develop discipline and elevate your spiritual game and gain enlightenment.

What the fuck do you think those martial artist monks and hardcore ascetics are doing? They're pushing their bodies to the limits through different means in order to purify their souls. Lifting is no different, if you want it to be.

>>35640809
>cut

How do I recomp? What kind of calorie setup am I looking at? I want to lose some body fat but don't want to lose muscle mass. I don't mind having to do it for a few months as long as I don't lose LBM

>>35641934
thank mr skeltal

>implying I'm cutting before reachin 1/2/3/4
kekaroo m80

>>35640851
JFC that demon on the left

>>35649113
Cut, son
u chubby, youll be able to bulk at next winter

>>35640809

But it's the middle of summer right now.

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>>35645286
>i assume most of you are getting laid regularly

Where do you think we are?

>>35640809

I am 176 cm (5' 9') and 88 KG (190 LBS)

I hope i will lose 10 KG i until July at least

Currently on a low carb 1500-1700 cal diet. The diet consist of chicken, cottage cheese, eggs and a lot of vegetables.

Everything is so delicious i do not think i need a propper cheatmeal. My cheatmeals will be simple carbs or something. Or ground meat. Also, bought CLA to boost up the progress.

Lifting 3 times a week SS but gonna do a new 5 week program i febuary because it is exam time on uni so a lot of free time.

Wish me luck brehs.

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>>35649822

>>35646801
Top center and bottom right have good insertions and alright faces

bottom right is just grimacing

I feel sad when I look at the others though

>>35649208
Yes. pls do that bb :3

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B-but I want to bulk still

>6'3 195 lbs/88 kg

>>35650036
>B-but I want to bulk still
Bad fatty!

>>35646879
>>35646801
Would you rather be ugly and swole, or just ugly?
Even if lifting only takes you from a 2/10 to a 3/10, that's a point that you wouldn't have had otherwise

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>>35640809

I got about 15 pounds to go familia. Trying to have abs for the first time this year. I can see them when I flex in good lighting, but I still feel fat. Guess that former fatty mentality never really leaves.

>>35648634
my fucking sides

>>35649172
You look great already. Keep hitting those pecs, stud!

considering ill go on the beach in august ill cut in march

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former complete skelly here. I've been bulking a bit but put on fat and a tiny bit of muscle (had absolutely zero before). I'm a little self conscious of the belly fat I've put on but realise I also still have little to no muscle. Do I keep bulking and suck up the fat?

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bf% estimate? also how do i get rid of my lil love handles, recomp or cut

>>35640809

20%? Nigga, please I wish I was 20%. The end of the year was a car wreck for me with multiple illnesses gang-banging me for 3 months.

I'm probably at 30% right now - 6'1 @ 220lbs I'm aiming for a 1-1.5 lbs weekly drop and I'll be happy if I'm at 10% bf at the end of the year.

Also lawd jesus >>35640851

>>35641934
thank you mr skeletal

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What about me, guise? Do I keep cutting?

>>35650726
them neck gains
how

>cutting for four and a half months

no thanks. i'll eat 1500kcal a day for three weeks in march, then again for two weeks in april. sometimes we get a nice may so i'll be ready for that.

>>35650761
>cutting without DNP
what a pleb

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It’s been a year since I started on this journey.

I am 5'9
SW: 242
CW: 170
Goal: Maybe 10 more pounds, but mostly tone everything up.

I really have no secret to it at all. There are some specific things you can do, but the moment you dedicate yourself to this and remember that even the little steps have put you in a different place than you were in before, it becomes a bit easier. (Mentally, not physically. Treadmills and burpees are demons in disguise.)

>>35650863
>"Mentally, not physically. Treadmills and burpees are demons in disguise"

Why?

>>35640809
>January
>after winter bulk

Pick one.

Winter bulk is october->march. After that it's summer bulk.

I'm gonna cut after 3 months of stable 242lbs/110kgs or in 2017, which ever comes first.

>>35640809

it's fucking january

how fat are you that you are cutting for summer now

>>35650863
sexy

>>35650735
He lost fast and has his head raised in second picture.

>>35650863

How tall are you and how old are you?

Basically doing the same thing as you. Halfway to where you are now.
You look 100x better btw. Good job.

>>35650434
plsplspls

>>35640809

lol that's winter you dumbo

All the skinnybrahs in this thread calling someone Mr. Skeletal.
The irony.

>>35650355
you serious? figured i was bang average except for my babby adonis belt.

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>>35650434
>>35651315
25% according to pic related. Go cut.

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>falling for the bulking meme
>not recomping

>falling for lifting meme

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>>35650863
M'lady

>>35650992
Not her, but the mental stuff gets easier as you get into the habit of gym going.

Treadmill and Burpees TEND to be the kind of exercise where you either do something for a set amount of time or reps. It's harder to chart that sort of progress than weight (in that you don't just see it going up) so ten minutes killing yourself with sprints is going to feel the same a year in as it does at the start, even if you're going a load faster.

>>35651502
No way, doesn't look like 25 at all to me. More like somewhere between 20-15.

>>35650863
>tone everything up
>tone

also...
M o d e s t o
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>>35650863
Damn, you must be an amazon to look fine like that at 170. Are you 6' or over?

>>35646801
>having a nice face and nice body is better than just having a nice body

who knew

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>>35640809
>implying that I need to cut down

10% is maximum body fat for me

>>35650863
>>35651183
>>35652855
It says right in the post she's 5'9". Now that we have that settled

>Pls be in Pittsburgh bb

>>35653040
Goal
How long lifting? and routine?

>>35653040
height/weight?

Should I continue bulking if my lifts are still shit? I started out skinny as hell (sub otter swimmer mode)

For 5x5 (and 1x5 for deadlifts):
OHP 30kg
Bench: 50kg
Front Squat: 67.5kg (Front squats, due to bad should mobility/fucked wrists)
Diddly:100kg/2pl8

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>>35640809
>implying

I cut 20 kg in 14 weeks last year. I only need to cut 5-6kg this year, shouldn't take more than a month. Two if I really want to strech it out.

Learn to cut, faggot.

>>35653040
>10%

More like 12-14 in that pic

>lel just recomp!
>nobody has a single clue what a recomp is
Do people enjoy shitposting?

I'd be surprised if I need to cut for that long. I'm probably at around 15-16% bodyfat right now

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>>35650863
>5'9
>that body

MARRY ME AMAZONG GODDESS

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>>35653178
>that pic
>14%

B-but OP im Southern Hemisphere.. my bulk starts now..?

>>35653111
3.1 years now, with ups and downs (lots of progress v.s. little to none)

Routine ABCxABCx
A = shoulders (OHP) and triceps
B = back (DeadLift) and chest (bench)
C = leg (squat) and biceps

All comound lifts 5x5 followed by 5 x 8-10 (focus on form) and complete workout with some isolation excercises.

If you need 6 months to cut, you are either not actually bulking but rather being a fatass, or you don't know how to cut.

>>35653230
Why do you do it like that? Would PPL achieve the same thing?

>>35653040
>>35653141

~5'9 / 176cm and around 168 lbs / 76 kg

I just started lifting right before december. I-I can't cut yet ;-;

Severe dehydration and diarrhea , this year im gonna make it. R-right?

>>35653247
It keeps my workouts short 60-90 minutes and I made good progress with it. I dont follow this routine whole year long, like to mix it up once in a while, but I just love the feeling of putting your body under a lot of stress.

>>35644963
good lighting 3x5

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Skinnyfat here. Was 18% around the new year, (Not a resolutionfag, been doing /fit/ stuff since last summer, I used to be really not fit and now i'm just not fit), at about 16% now. After 6 more weeks of insanity and lifting i'm hoping to be 10-12% and then i'm going to bulk for a straight year and cut back if I get to 15.

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>>35649203

>>35653399
>at about 16% now
nope. chuck testa

>>35653178
no way m8

>>35653447
Would you say more like 18% then? In any case, no matter the bf%, it makes sense for me to cut. Why the fuck would anyone bulk and just make their needed cutting period even longer. Cutting sucks

>>35653477
i think 18-19 but its not a very good pic

but yeah

>>35653517
Ah, maybe i'll cut my calories down by an extra 200 then so I can hopefully get to at least 12 by march.

>>35640809
Thanks brah, starting my cut tomorrow

>>35641934
You should have started earlier
You won't lose that fat until mid-august bro
sorry

>>35641934
>>35642150
Timeframe? You bulked way the fuck too fast. Aim for a gain of 2lbs a MONTH. Anything in excess is guaranteed fat which means a longer cut and less progress.

>>35642194
why cut? that body is fucking beautiful

>>35650785
>ruining your atp production for the rest of your life and neglecting your cardiovascular system out of impatience
Top kek m8

>>35648063
that's assuming you measured correctly

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I don't even lift, at all. But I want to start lifting, I'm not in horrible shape, but I think I'm going to start my first bulk ever, I'm 32, 6'2 and 180-185lbs. maybe 10-20% bf, idk. I'm not really concerned with aesthetics, but I don't want to over bulk and lose motivation, or over bulk and just be some fatass strong guy.

>>35651511
>choosing a less efficient method on purpose because you think something is a meme
Bulk/cut cycles are far more efficient than recomping m8.
You probably think bulking just means eating like a fatass huh? Slight caloric surplus of 200-300 calories is all you need. You'll put on muscle at a rate of about 2lbs a month under ideal conditioms. However with recomping, it's much much less than that as your body NEEDS a surplus to pack on muscle.

>tfw already started and at 18%
Hope to make it to 9-10 in June

>>35653662
How about you just start lifting.

how do you go for a slow cut? this will be my first time cutting.

>>35653700
I lose and gain weight incredibly fast. If I lift, and don't keep up the caloric intake, I plateau in about a month, i was thinking if I just bulk, without expanding energy on lifting, once I hit 200-210, I could start lifting? Not sure.

>>35646145
You look great, don't worry about the haters. The fucking degenerate subhuman cutters who think if you don't have visible finger vascularity you need to cut. They're retards, they're morons, they're fucking idiots.

>>35653734
>cant tell if serious or chubby chaser

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>>35640809
I'll start after this 12pm glass of rye is empty

>>35647358
always go an hour before the gym closes

>>35653745
I'm serious. Non-Peasant skinnys always advocate a cut. Cut this, cut that. There's limited harm being the size the guy in the picture is. He looks fantastic. Once he cuts he'll be twice as big as the skinnys who fell for the 'muh lean bulk' meme. He had the frame for it. Subhuman non-peasants who don't have the frame for it (nobles: 10%, middle stock: 80% peasant stock: 10%). Nobles and middle stock don't have what it takes to get big, gain some fat, and look thick. Bet that guy will squat 405 in the next 6 months if he wants it.

>>35653856
>He looks fantastic.

so chubby chaser then

ok cool

>>35653856
Noble stock: Elegant, limber, high will power, intelligence, gracile
Middle stock: Crossover between peasants and nobles, mostly artisans and scholars, slight of frame, mild mannered, humble
Peasant stock: Robust, thick, strong, incredible will power

>>35653178
Post yourself
(you won't)

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>>35641934
thanks mr. skeletal

>>35642087
>tfw go to school in Wisconsin
>fuck summer I'll be working my ass off
>just wanna look good for gamedays next year

DREAM BULK ENGAGE

>>35653585
The fat pic is the before, the skeltal is the after.

>>35640809
Got my first powerlifting competition on March 6th. Gonna get straight to cutting right after that, hopefully I can get down 20-30 pounds by the end of the summer.

>>35653731
You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, do you? Read the sticky dude. Why the hell would you "bulk" up to 200 without lifting? That's not bulking, that's just getting fat.

>>35653856
Don't listen to this retard.

Protip: You don't need to be a fatass to squat 405.

>>35647717
>ultra low carb
>keto
>12 weeks
kek enjoy not making it.

>>35648319
shit that gif, fuaaaaaaak.

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Could someone guess my bodyfat?

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I started cutting in late december and would love to be at least 85kg by july 1st,

Besides from cutting, I do 30 to 40 mins cardio daily.

From the pic, do you think I can make it?

>>35654989
20%

>>35655151
Thx, thatd be my guess as well.
I have still so much strength gains to make that i feel it be a waste of time to cut.

>>35648465
>thigh gap is good
laughing high test grills.png

>>35654929
Yea she could suck you off, lick your nuts and toss your salad all while kissing your thigh. Amazing eh?

>>35655131
When you say cutting, do you mean going from fatty mode? You can make it if dedicated, no prob.

>>35655210
Yea leaving fat-mode is the easy part. Gaining muscle while not adding is hard.

>>35655210
Yeah, that's what I mean. Going from fatty to in shape.

>>35655175
You need to cut. Get to at least 12% before bulkan

>>35655175
You could try a lean cut, you will make strength gains and also look better, worked for me.

>>35655258
But i am way to light for my hight already.
167,5 lbs at 6'

>>35641894
>>35648517
I run ec stacks, yc stacks and eyc stacks all the time. They don't make much of a difference I just like the stimulant effects. Their thermogenic effects are so minute. They're appetite supression and drive while on a low calorie is just a good addition when you're hungry all the time.

Tldr don't factor for it at all, still start cutting now

>>35655304
i will look into it, ty

>>35640851
Brehs

>>35640809
test

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6'2 240, Miami trip in April... Hoping to get down to 220 by then

>>35655591
What are yer lifts m8? I'm 6'2 205lbs wishing I was 220

>>35655612
I almost never do 1RM bc no spot...
OHP 135 3 sets of 10
Bench 275 3 sets of 5
Squat 275 3 sets of 10
Stopped deadlifting because fucked up my back while doing 315 for 10

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>>35653611
Thanks pham

>>35648517
Running ec stack right now, it's ok in the sense that you dint get hungry or cravings at all. I pretty mutch have to will my self to eat. The part that is always wayy over estimated is the boost to your metabolism, yeah it helps but its so minor I dont even take it into account when calculating bmr.

>>35655646
Miring that bench press my max is 225 kek

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Can I make it to 10%bf (ottermode) by the end of this years summer?
Im 5'7 142lb kinda chubby

>pls respond

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>>35655725
>mfw still no chest

>>35655177
Ofc the chubby chaser missed the point

ANY girl can get her thighs to touch, whether she's just born like that or she just overeats.
Therefore, having a thigh gap is "privilege"

>>35655782
>ANY girl can get her thighs to touch, whether she's just born like that or she just overeats.
>Therefore, having a thigh gap is "privilege"
No, m8. That's not how it works. Stop spamming your virgin dreams.

>>35649822
Sick references bro. Your references are out of control, everyone knows it.

>>35655916
Different anon, he's right and you're wrong

>>35646801
Some very sad person makes these

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>>35640809
>>35640851
>there are homos who say "tits are overrated"
never

>>35653360
kek

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>>35647188
>Went from 170 to 182 as of an hour ago
>Went from 170 to 182, as of an hour ago
>anon in charge or grammar
It means you are actually retarded

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>>35647969
>See short and scrawny dude on the street with his gf
>Make eye contact with him
>He looks away
>tfw higher than him in the food chain

>>35649021
U made gains but gained too much fat. Not bad tho

>>35642194
I want to cum on your stomach

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>>35659207
gays belong in the >>>/trash/

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Body calipers say I'm right around 13%. Don't know if I believe it.

5'10'' 160 lbs

I fucked up my training and need to get back down to 10% so I don't get fat as fuck on my next bulk. Didn't take lifting as seriously as I should have and made some mistakes. Lifts are alright though.

OHP 135 x 5
Bench 190 x 5
Squat 195 x 5 (working on mobility issues with left hip flexor)
Deadlift 275 x 5

fastest way to lose weight without losing muscle?
>poorfag so eat oats, toast, and frozen chicken for almost every meal
>can probably do gym every day
>started at 285lb last feb, now at 230 (my progress went from like 5lb/week to literally nothing)

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>tfw Australian and have bulked through whole summer so far
>still go to the beach 3/4x a week with my lack of visible abs
>lifting for women etc

>>35641934
thank you hungry skeletal

>>35655646
>advanced bench but lmao squat and deads
so it's true that you can't be strong at both bench and deads/squats

neat

>>35641934
thanks god mr skeletal

>>35659340
I am also an example of that >>35659257

I think it comes from poor programming or even limitations on mobility. I personally suffered from bad mobility and struggled to get the correct form down on squat. I would get hip pains and had terrible buttwink. The lack of squats led to a poor progression of my deadlift.

It's difficult to recover from.

>>35659376
I'm the guy you replied to, and that's pretty understandable

bench is virtually impossible to fuck-up* on, so it's the easiest to stick to, whereas squat can fuck you up easily

I switched to sumo deadlifts because I couldn't keep my back straight, but squats I kinda gave up on 2bh. I'll do them maybe twice a month if the gym is empty enough that I can avoid looking like a dyel

*fuck up to the point where you risk injury

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>no change of weight in over 3 weeks
>perfect cut/workout and lost measurably fat
should I worry?

>>35640809
Ausfag here, it's Summer already, but it's on the way out. I've started bulking; aiming to bulk for about 6 months, then cut for 3. After that, either do a mini bulk or keep cutting depending on how I look.

Thoughts guys? I'm essentially a beginner who's got 2 weeks in the bag (returning to lifting after a break, so I know my way around the gym) and I'm doing a PPLxULx split plus cardio.

Thoughts on my plan?

>>35659501
I can't see you but I would say to bulk for more than 6 months

>>35659501
I should add that I'm hoping to be looking good shirtless by December.

>>35640809
you're pretty cool anon, I like you.

>>35659520
Ok. Thoughts on amounts of time I should spend bulking? Should I push it up to 8 or 9 months? I'm hoping to look good shirtless by December, but if that doesn't happen, I'm not fussed.

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>>35659559
Fuck man, Idk. I'm >>35642194: I've been lifting and bulking for a year from 140-160lbs and I don't wanna stop until I'm at least 175


The ride never ends

>>35659587
Shit, you look pretty good. Ok, y'know what? Fuck it. I'm just gonna bulk until I look good, then cut.

Cheers for the advice. Good luck with the bulk man.

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>>35659625
Thanks man. I'm always bulking but if you ever start to feel a little fat/bloated, just cut down the calories (but keep the protein up) for 2-3 weeks till your stomach is flat again. Doing cardio will help you keep lean.

also Karlie is best girl

>>35649311
this

>start lifting to look good and get girls
>develop a crippling insecurity problem, get too drunk at parties because I think I can't talk to girls sober (i can)
>fuck sluts for validation multiple times a week
>only recently started to realize it's a real problem and that I should stop

I'm literally friends with more girls from having hooked up with them than girls I actually enjoy hanging out with. It's also given me such a fucked up worldview that I don't think I'll ever find a girl I can actually trust. Girls think I'm a manwhore and the nice ones kind of shy away from me now.

It's an entirely different set of problems from most of you probably but I actually understand why sluts are they way they are now. Redpill is kinda right about 'most' girls desu

Don't lift for validation, chances are it'll work for a while but it's not very healthy

real wisdom in this thread

>>35649208
Routine?

>>35660668
A - Chest & Tricep
Flat bench 5x5
Incline DB Bench 4x6-8
Incline fly 3x8-10
Cable fly 3x8-10
Weighted dips 3x6-8
Close grip bench 3x6-8
Skull Crushers 3x8-10
Single arm tricep extensions 3x8-10

B - Legs
Cycle 6miles to gym
Squat 5x5
Leg extension 3x8-10
Leg press 4x6-8
Calf raises 3xfailure

C - Back & Bicep
Deadlifts 5x5
Weighted pullups 4x6-8(Alternate close grip & wide)
BB rows 4x6-8
Machine single arm rows 3x8-10
Wide grip lat pull down 3xfailure
Seated db curls 3x8-10
Rope hammer curls 3x8-10
Concentration db curls 3x8-10

D - Shoulders & Accessories
OHP5x5
DB side lateral raise 3x8-10
DB frost raises 3x8-10
Face pulls with cable rope 3x8-10
Weighted hyper extensions 3x20 (for muh glutes)
Ab work 3x failure (Weighted sit ups, leg raises etc)

Any lagging areas/imbalances are met with extra sets/drop sets