so /fit/ agrees that 4/3/2/1 is a good goal for beginner-intermediate lifters.
let's talk about 4/3/2/1-tier goals for other important lifts.
> weighted chins? weighted dips?
> pendlay/yates rows?
etc.
>>35509977
4/3/2/1 is not intermediate, you filthy plebeian.
>>35509977
>4plate ohp
wew lad
>>35509986
it's damned if you do, damned if you don't., if I just had it as "4/3/2/1 is a good goal." I'd get replies like
> implying that's strong
> not doing 5/4/3/2
> implying that's a goal, I got it in my first two months
please respond
>>35510016
>He doesn't ohp 4pl8
>>35509977
Who gives a fuck? Dips are generally 10-20% more in total load , body weight plus added resistance, than flat bench. There's your conversion.
Pendlay row in the neighborhood of your flat bench.
Chin about your bench
>>35510434
This is so full of shit that it hurts. Never post again.
>>35510451
You're so full of lies that it hurts. Never breathe again
>>35509986
70kg 5'10 king of manlets here
180kg diddly, 157.5kg squat, 105kg bench. I would definitely consider myself an intermediate. Only bro fuccbois think otherwise.
>Are people's Power Clean usually proportional to their bench?
>Dips comparable to bench?
>Weighted pullups comparable to...??
For bodyweight workouts when you can do 30+ reps thats pretty good.
30 pullups 30 dips
>>35510515
You're closer to advanced. And you should eat..
>>35510557
Yeah I'm on dat dere long term bulk atmtbqhf gonna get strong as fug
>>35510434
Lmao, I can do 10 dips at 84 kgs
And 5x67.5kg flat bench
>>35509977
i guess 8 pullups?
>>35510539
30 dips is no problem for me.
5 pullups is excruciating.
wot du
>>35510668
you start training your back
>>35510434
Dips are a shitload easier than bench unless you are a very stubby-armed obese manlet.
>>35510539
pullups are way harder than dips
>>35509977
I would say rows would be something about 2.5 pl8s. Your back should be stronger than your pecs.