Steroids General

>>35410562

On Test E post 3rd inj and my nipples were a little sore 10h after, like jogger nipples. It subsided a little. It should be way to early for gyno sides on E, iam just dealing with internet paranoia right ?

Got Adex,Letro and Asin infront of me, not sure if I should pop 12mg Asin now or wait for my midcycle bloods to see whats going on.

Advice pls vets

>NPP or TREN

Is NPP a better smaller next step in the game compared to Tren for both, cut / bulk ?

>>35410604
please help

>>35410604
better safe than sorry, drop the AI

Long story short /fraud/
>Friends after high school started lifting, got on steroids (every single one except one who is planning to), got ripped, enjoying their lives as tradies
>Be me, study 12 hours a day 6 days a week and spend Sunday's volunteering , 6'1 at 62kg
>Pale as ice from always being indoors
>tfw I am Jack Skellington
>Study load is going to be lightened up coming next year
>Friends convincing me to lift and roid
>I know a fair bit of all the theory since that's all they ever talk about

So /fraud/, are my friends retarded or not? How dangerous is simultaneously starting lifting and juicing?
I know ligament and tendon damage is a real risk but that can be offset by deca and good doses of vitamin e.

Some 19-year-old kid on /r/steroids claims that he grew 1.5 inches in 4 weeks with the following cocktail:
CJC1295 w/o dac 100-300mcg daily
Hexarelin 100mcg x3-x5 daily
GHRP6 200mcg x3-x5 daily
Adex (Letro if very prone to estrogen) dose depending on e2 sensitivity.

What does /fit/ think?

>roids
Enjoy your osteoporosis, LOL

>>35411222
>Enjoy your osteoporosis, LOL

>Getting old in general
LEL enjoy your health degradation

Will a 500mg test-e cycle make me look older?

Sup dudesters, anyone interested in some tested sdrol and winny raws?

Got way too much on hand so I can give it out at around 50% of what a UGL would charge you for an untested product.

EU bros only. Unless you're NW.

>>35411217
I'm surprised he managed to actually source that many authentic peptides and use them properly given i don't know the first thing about peptides.

But that sounds like too much ridiculous growth. He would be the tiger claw king if he's telling the truth

>>35411264
What do you mean?

>>35411282
I have a child's face and voice.... Will testosterone remedy this

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>>35411333
Don't know about test but tren and other strong androgens will change your voice most probably

>>35411333
If you're taking them purely to make yourself look older. They're not right for you.

It's possible you'll get a deepened voice, larger Adam's apple and increased facial hair to hide your baby face. But don't count on it being similar to plastic surgery

Who here does actually know about peptides?

What's the best way to keep the joint issues away while using Winny & Test?

>>35411412
adding NPP to the stack

>>35411412
Decca + codliver oil

>>35410604
>>35411020

second opinion anyone ? I read that its a normal reaction to increased hormone levels, not really gyno issue

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daddy's dick made me so sore today, it was really cool and i'm thankful for having him

>>35411380

What peptides? GHRP and GHRH are relatively inexpensive and are most usually authentic from my experience. It's peptides like IGF-1 lr3 that are more questionable.

>>35411187

>first year lifting, start roiding

hopefully you go full zyzz, questions like this really show that most of /fit/ are still too young to have critical thinking.

Check your email jj

>>35411526
But I can't think of one real reason why I can't.

Next blast gonna be 600mg/wk test e, 300mg/wk Deca, 400mg/wk mast prop, and 20-30mg Halo and 50mg TNE preworkout. #fuarkinj00ci3

What are some good cardio/HIIT routines? what are you guys doing?
I heard fasted cardio works best. I really need your help.

>>35411676
lyle mcdonald recommends just switching cardio up in his stubborn fat loss book. Fasted. HIIT "feasted" to increase performance.

>>35411653
how much do u lift?

>>35411187
Thats retarded, because you don't know the first thing about lifting, diet and technique. But by all means go ahead and pray you don't duck yourself up along the way.. I don't see why you need to start with roids from the beginning if your only motivation is to look good you won't last anyway.
If you do decide to go through with it take some before, progress and after pics, I'd be interested to see how much you'd have accomplished... Or haven't..

>>35411268
Where do you get them tested ? And is it just a conformation test or real purity test ?

>>35411748
But like, how will I fuck myself up?

Is there any actual mutually exclusive dangers that come from specifically being new to lifting and juicing?

>>35411703
do you have any routine or youtube link? there are like a crapton of options on youtube, not sure what should I use.

>>35411758
Jano

Real purity test

Just confirming something might be in there would be just as bad as UGL's lol.

>>35411448
I think you'll be fine waiting a few more days, see if it progresses or goed away. A few days won't suddenly cause irreversible mantits

>>35411187
just lift and always eat as healthy as possible when you are hungry...
and after 1-2 years when you know a little bit of what you are doing you can do a little bit of test!
everything else is shit and you lose most of the gains if you go off the juice anyway

>>35411775
im sorry but how old are you exactly?
"Friends after high school"
You don't sound old enough to be considering this.

>>35411801
Turn 20 in March.

>>35411775
Your technique will be absolute fucking shit, meanwhile your strength will increase explosively, at the same time like you said your tendons and ligaments (and bones) are untrained and prone to injury even with light weights and especially with the horrible form everyone has at least their first few months. You'll not notice it tho, because you keep improving you keep overestimating yourself and finally you'll snap your shit up and look back with regret while all your gains fade away. Just go for 6 months of dedicated natty training and start roids from there. It's still early in my opinion but at least the chance you fuck yourself up dramatically decreases. Just taking some deca won't save you.

>>35411832
>at the same time like you said your tendons and ligaments (and bones) are untrained and prone to injury even with light weights
Afaik this is broscience

The horrible form point is valid on the other hand.

>>35411832
Fair points.

>>35411832
And with dedicated I mean going at least 3 times a week, getting your diet in order, training using a solid program and not just some cardio and machines. And no missed days. You'll also need to give up alcohol if you want to run orals and drugs for any steroid or you're gonna have the vascular system of a 60 year old at 25

>>35411839
It is not, the tendons are what connects the muscle to the bone the attachment at the bone can easily tear or even take some bone with it. Shin splints is one example of damage to the attachment of tendons to bones due to early overtraining and avulsion fractures is what happens when the tendons hold but the bone gives way. Bone density increases following impact and compression.
I'm a medfag btw

>>35411860
Vehemently anti-recreational drug. So alcohol is no go zone for me anyone. Wouldn't plan to run oral only cycles unless I'm starting with dbol. But I think that would just completely excessive.

>>35411785

thank you for your advice

>>35411889
>I'm a medfag btw
I've had doctors tell me protein shakes are dangerous so I've lost a lot of trust in you guys unfortunately.

I've just never, ever heard of roid newbies hurting themselves due to tendons not being used to the loads.

You'd think you'd hear about it now and again if it were such a risk.

>>35411890
At least that is good. Do your own research about steroids tho, don't just rely on your friends. And I hope you decide to first start out natty, you'll see yourself improve a lot in a short time anyway and at least this way you have to be more focused on getting the technique down, I really think it's for the better.

>>35411553

You missed the point of what I was saying.

You're still a child and need someone to hold your hand and tell you yes or no.

>>35411934
Well did those doctors frequent internet image boards dedicated to taking illegal steroids? I'm not a doctor tho yet, 1,5 years to go.
I'm not saying it will happen to anyone, most people will be just fine I'm sure but why take a risk for serious injury when it's so easy to avoid and would cost a few months delay to being ripped at most? Obviously I can't say anything about incidence but the people who just start out and immediately take steroids are usually not the ones frequently posting on bodybuilding forums.. after they get injured they quit and go back to doing sth else, so that might cause some bias as well

>>35411986
So the fact that I am seeking guidance being I am not an all knowing being is now an indication of Childress, immaturity and lacking critical thinking?

I think you may want to revisit your dictionary sometimes. Because researching and surveying experienced people's opinions is a good step in the decision making process.

If I was truly childlike, I would have just done it.

And my original question wasn't "Should I or should I not?" It was "How dangerous is it?"

>>35411954
>Do your own research

That's why I'm here :^)

>>35412027
>Wanting real legit advice from a soviet loli board
lol.

>>35412027

you said you're educated, even boasting yourself of being accomplished in education in your first post.

if you know how to properly cycle and state that you understand the downside of cycling, then again seek guidance on a anime image board...means you're scared and you're not ready for it.

>>35412060
>implying I would base my decision purely on the advice of posters of a Chechen Scroll projecting board

I'll cross check shit before I do anything numb nuts

>>35412042
That's a good start, but really always double check and don't take anything posted especially here in fraud for granted sometimes people like to troll, download some books like William Llewellyn 's anabolics (it's on torrents) if you're serious about it. Obviously reading the whole book is pointless but the introduction capitals give anyone without medical background a good understanding of the basics behind steroids and you can use it for reference of nearly all compounds as well

>>35412066
>you said you're educated, even boasted

Did neither of the sort. I said I just studied a lot. Doesn't mean I'm in anyway intelligent.

>cycling
I plan on blasting and cruising.

>>35412090
Then stop asking opinion from trolls and do your own research lmao Of course I wouldnt say you are as retarded as your friends since you did ASK before going ahead and doing it. In my opinion just lift regularly and naturally for a couple of years since you WILL make a lot of progress, and once you have made that progress you know what you are doing is obviously working and then decide if roiding is your kinda thing and do it. In the long run you are gonna look better than your friends assuming that they just starting off juicing before lifting what so ever.

>>35412111

Christ you're stupid, when did I say you were intelligent?

Educated =/= intelligent

yes, you boasted about being "educated"

>>35411187
>>enjoying their lives as tradies
>>Be me, study 12 hours a day 6 days a week


>>I plan on blasting and cruising.

then do it. :^)

>>35412179
Man you're an unforgiving shitlord aren't you? Commenting on someone's education and the supposed boasting of education to then make assumptions about their knowledge and learning capacity is general assumptive grounds to make a general correlation of intelligence.

Jesus do I have to fucking hold your hand through every logical leap?

>>35412015
>frequent internet image boards dedicated to taking illegal steroids?
I shall let you know I too have a master in shit posting.

Fair point that those who injure themselves will just disappear.

At the same time, my counter argument is that those who don't have enough knowledge and consequently would injure themselves, aren't capable of making the necessary gains to hurt themselves in the first place.

Not saying the injuries are not possible, (not just tendons but all kind) I just think the main concerns are elsewhere.

>>35412315
Haha yeah, I agree that's probably another reason. All in all I think its not a common occurrence but it's not uncommon enough to be negligible either.

>>35411455
Hey

So my derm called and said my herpaderp results were negative in my mouth and that i had a rare bad side effect from accutane. She said i could try a lower 20mg dose and potentially have the same bad sides (swollen gums burning tongue).

I personally just wanna blast some test and rock some dbol, but I'm tired of having rosacea & cystic acne. What would you bros do?

>>35412765
Blast and have good ai
Keep lvls stable af

>thursday night is new year night
>brasil chica said we cant go together to where she is going because a lot of people dont know she is divorced
>she said we can meet 11 am on friday for fucking in your place

kek
i'm being used for sex by a jezebel

Ordered my full gear for my first competition in 9 months.
100ml tren a
100ml test p
100ml test e
50ml bolde
300 tabs winny 10mg
200 tabs t3 25ng
30 tabs letro

Expensive as fuck and i aint even on hgh level!

>>35412998
mate go start a fucking blogspot instead of posting your bs here. no one cares

not going to fap the rest of the week so i can really blast all over that ho on friday morning

sperm showers

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>>35413032
i care.

sometimes it's funny

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>>35413032
you care so much
you are mad jelly
deal with it

>>35413032
for some reason is BS cheers me up, it's kinda like a comedy.

>>35413049
whatever you say m8

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>>35412998
So what are you gonna do on new years eve then?

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>>35413071

>>35413092
>2016
>I still haven't kissed a single black/ebony girl
teach me
inb4 they are just escorts

>last night
>was sucking of hot trap girl
>pound that tight ass pussy
>realize my dick is covered in shit


kek fml

>>35413109
aww come on, you lost me m8

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>>35413106
>inb4 they are just escorts
most of them

currently banging a brazil nymfo jezebel for free

who cares anyway about paying or not paying only insecure poverty people care

if it feels good it feels good mang

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>>35413134
>most of them

Wait... you kiss escorts? HAHAHA

>>35413147
why the fuck not

the distinction you make between escorts and non escorts is based on insecurity and poverty

there is no objective biological difference

>>35413134
you know you are literally paying for love right? I'm not even sure if it's even worse than paying for sex with a whore.
I'm confused now.

>>35413164
whatever helps you sleep faggot

>>35413164

Yeah I'm sure you enjoy the man juice on her lips. Sucks to be you when you're the last customer of the night.

>>35413172
why are you confused

if you can hit it for free, fuck them raw no pulling out

if you cant, give them some coins and fuck them raw no pulling out

>>35413164
>whores have no biological difference from normal women

Std, sti,HIV, etx

>>35413164
I tend to disagree with that

escorts only have sex with you because you pay them. They don't have any feelings for you. Only feelings for money

>>35413185
you are cluless son of a bitch who doesnt realize all women are filthy cock sluts, including your girlfriend who is putting nigger sperm on your lips when you kiss her

stay in denial

stay mad

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>>35413191
>believing this bullshit

monday's std test results

clean on everything

only homosexuals get aids this is a scientific fact

>>35413204
>They don't have any feelings for you
you sound like a child desu

>>35413206

Yeah sure m8. You keep kissing those whores who just had 10 facial cum shots on their lips.
Ask them to love you and say kind things to you hahahah.

You sad fuck.

>>35413226
are you really such a child that you dont know reality is that all women are nasty whores?

clearly you are

lol

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>>35413224
That's how i think.

You can it childish, or whatever you wanna name it. It's way different, when that person doesn't have the same feelings as you.

Maybe, I'am too empathic for that

>>35413242

m8, you kissing whores. You are KISSING whores.

How fucking sad and nasty can you get? Might aswell suck someone off when you want that man juice so bad my bald friend.

>/fraud/ suddenly hates JM what happened?

>>35413284
newfags m8, newfags everywhere

>>35413284
You can disagree with someone.

I don't hate him at all.

>>35413284
He's been especially shitposty lately.
JM is best tolerated in small doses.

Is all I need for a test/dianabol cycle(10 weeks test and 6 weeks dianabol) Arimidex and nolvadex? With the roids obvi. Arimi for during and nolvadex for pct.

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>>35410562
What do you /fraud/sters think of non-steroidal test boosters, like D-Aspartic Acid and Bulbine Natalensis?
What non-steroidal supplements do you take/recommend?

A lot of you appear pretty knowledgeable about metabolism and supplementation in general and I would assume have opinions on the topic.

Sometimes I cum on my dogs face and kiss him after that

>>35413387
The difference between 500ng/dl and 700ng/dl in terms of gains is practically nonexistent, and test boosters wouldn't even be that effective.
Pin to win.

>>35413413
If it feels good it feels good

Hey there guys.

I have one question
I'm interested in starting a Test cycle (under the guidance of a doctor) in order to lower my voice (it's REALLY high pitched): by doing this cycle will I risk to lose my hair?

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>tfw just turned 20
>tfw still have 5 more years of natty lifting before I can safely hit the juice
why senpai

>>35413613
lmao just get on now faggot

>>35413613
Just yolo it fgt

>>35413613
Literally why?
There's no magical switch that makes doing roids at 25 safer than 24

>>35413613
The way I see it, if you're going to get on and stay on for life eventually, you may as well start now rather than later. It'd be different if you're just doing this temporarily, etc. If you know fersure that one day you'll get on for life, just make the jump now. It's not like you'll have to worry about Natty test levels at 30 if you're blasting and cruising all the way through your 50s.

Cocaine addict's heart 'beats' for 25 mins after removal (VIDEO)

https://www.rt.com/news/310562-cocaine-heart-keeps-beating/

>muhhh cocainnee

>>35413644
Because we all know 20-year olds are great at making life-long decisions.

iam on my 3rd week of test e 600mgz per week, I was cutting for month before, added some carbs and now iam feeling fat and dont feel like bulking anymore. Can't I just get some cabser and add some NPP or something on week 5 ? Tren would suck I guess on "this much" test

>>35413638
Right, but since male growth and natural hormone levels plateau around 24-25 those extra 3, 4, even 5 years can be beneficial.
>>35413644
I'm sure my plan is the same as everyone else here at one point. I want to get on for a couple cycles, get some gains, and be done with it. Just as a bit of a boost.

It'll probably lead to a life time of cycling but I don't have that kind of foresight.

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>>35413656
>doing steroids will mess up your natural testosterone production for life

>>35413685
>If you know fersure that one day you'll get on for life, just make the jump now. It's not like you'll have to worry about Natty test levels at 30 if you're blasting and cruising all the way through your 50s.
m8

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Is nobody scared from the heart growth steroids can cause?

heart looks like an elephant heart

>>35413712

Iam rich, ill just get a new one

>>35413712
stay away from cocaine and saunas you will be okay also see if you have an existent heart problem

>>35413712
Stronk like elephant

What up

>>35413757
about to hit the gym, u?

>>35413677
Well i say its good that you decided to wait, you should make as many natty gains as possible those 5 years and post what your natty limit is

>be on a 2000 cal cut with tren, anavar and 750dnp
>eating bro-shit food like chicken, pork loin, cheeses, peas, kidney beans, polish dishes

Fuck me I almost don't even want to eat anymore and would rather just get engulfed by the dnp.

Just want to order a pineapple and nutella calzone and a regular meat lovers calzone tomorrow (only eating 2000+ cals of course).

>>35413712

yeah you're fucked.

>>35413786
Headache and probably gonna hit the gym in a couple hours

Winter break for the win

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>>35413134
>only one 500 euro note
JM pls, I can get double that just looking under my bed

Pic related

>>35413886
>euro

>>35413284
Nobody hates JM, he's or little special needs buddy.

>>35413889
Got some dollars, GBP and RMB lying around somewhere too anon-kun.

But yeah, euro master race. Purple is beautiful.

What does /fraud/ think of test sustanon? My lifting buddy just started a cycle of test s and anadrol and I can already tell after 2 weeks.

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>>35413738
There are plenty of hearts on the black market.

Just up the dose

>>35413886
he just got 45k for christmas.

very generous family, probably

>>35413921
It's silly. If you want to kick start the E with another form of test just use Prop for a couple of weeks alongside it.

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fuck you with you money

i got my muscle.

i don't need money

who needs money these days?

i got muscle. yeahh buddy

>>35413886
I've got a couple million in monopoly money sitting in my closet too.

>>35413927
>he just got 45k for christmas.
Doubtful, since those kinds of amounts as a present would be taxed heavily, and his father doesn't seem to be the dumb kind.

>>35414013
I think he's a pimp or drugdealer.

why would you have so much money in cash?

>>35414059
>why would you have so much money in cash?
Because if you get paid in cash and not by bank you can hide a huge chunk of it and not get taxed.

>>35414008
Not sure if srs cause an American might truly see euro money as fake cause of all the colours.

We've got style, not all in recycled paper green. Shoo shoo.

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>>35414117
You think that's colourful look at Aussy's money

>>35414169
Isn't that exactly the same as ours? Except for us also having gray and orange outside of those 5 cause we have a 200 and 500 note over those.

But good job aussiland, join the style cash club.

>>35414117
The iconic greenback is classy. I fucking hate every new twenty they put out.

>>35414169
Jesus. I'd have to use a card for everything. I'd feel flamboyant just having that shit in my wallet.

>>35414092
i find it still weird to give someone 45k in cash.

i'am aware of the tax

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>>35411268
<3

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>>35411934
unless you're jerry who is also wannabe medfag desu lol

>>35414254
Jerry doesn't count, he's an anti-genetic anomaly.

>>35414220
Can't forget my american soulbro

I'll be testing tren and mast too, you can have some too if you ever brew.

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>>35413654
it's like cardio for the lazy

>be donald trump
> inject all fatties with cocaine
> make america great again

>>35414309
>inject all fatties with cocaine
So what you're saying is... if I get fat and AIDS I'll have government paid pharma var and cocaine...?

Where do I sign up.

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>>35414218
it's to fix the dent in his head and maybe extra for a hair transplant

>>35411187
You can either live the next few years leet and die at 24 from an "un-diagnosed heart condition"

Or theoretically live much longer and do it natty and not be a faggot tradie trying to pick up a root every weekend

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>>35411934

you never hear about it because if us fitizens snap our tendons up we cant shit post anymore.

RIP everyone who has witch fingers and cannot type any more

>>35414364
Don't we have 4 fingered trips, lol

>>35414364
thansk tiykw ralato toem with

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>>35414197
>The iconic greenback is classy. I fucking hate every new twenty they put out.

I'm sure the north Koreans feel the same way

>>35414309
Trump is like the American Wilders.

We also have a Trump over here.


>>35414357
kek.

No, he doens't trust the current hair transplant technology.

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this pic cracked me up

>Muh eaglee
>Muh freedomm

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>>35414343
on second thought donald trump should just give free meth to fatties

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>>35414427
you can see the fear in his eyes lol

>>35414382

Are those real words? You sound like a priest from age of empires.

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Can't stump the Trump

>>35413218
Ben je belgisch of nederlands?

>>35414008
How many monopoly boards you gotta buy to break 1mil?

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>>35414485
can't wait for the great wall of freedom to go up between Mexico lol

>>35414532
idk. Fuck monopoly.

>>35414594
okay nerd you're the one with all the money in your closet

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>>35414547
One can only dream

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>tfw engaged

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>>35414377
I have a name, buddy.

Tfw you're 23, ffmi of 24, still Natty, won a bodybuilding show and powerlifting meet, and find out you have low T.

What now guys? Can I still be a fertile male on TRT?

>>35414712
Nice. Which one of you popped the question.

>>35414743
how much T do you have?
Even at 592 I was still feeling like crap.

>>35414754
up the tren

>>35414754
Most recent bloodwork came in at 399

>>35414772
that's not low, at least not for a doc, docs will only give you test if you have like 200.
Fuck docs anyway.

>>35414712
congrats

>>35414712
your life is over

enjoy it while it last

>>35414712
people still believe in love on this day and age?

>>35414744
Neither of us formally proposed, it had been in the air for a while so we just talked it over and made it official.

>>35414790
I have prior tests chiming in at 199 and 296. My urologist is cool as fuck though. He told me today if Clomid treatment falls then he'll prescribe me bc he wants me at least 7 to 800

>>35414813
congratulations. I got engaged recently too, but it's to a woman that starts fights with me frequently and has the biggest case of insecurity and jealous I've ever had to deal with.
Not sure how it'll end up lol

>>35414735
I'm not your buddy, friend

>>35414804
sometimes I like to
sometimes

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how can i still weigh 100kg after being off for 7 weeks.

Was 102kg before pct

I gained slighly in fat, maybe 1% bodyfat.

>muhhhh cruise
>muhhh natty limit

Why do you guys cruise if you can keep most of your gains?

MasTest goes against science.

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>>35414835
>to a woman that starts fights with me frequently and has the biggest case of insecurity and jealous I've ever had to deal with

RUN NIGGA

>>35414835
Free yourself, don't be like me and end up with an unhealthy relationship.
Sooner or later you will become like her so just get out.

>>35414853
maybe shes very qt

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>>35414847
The only change i see = less shoulder blown up and less vains.

ppl at my gym still think i roid

>that pct acne

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>>35414883
>marrying crazy

>>35414908
I didnt say he should do it

>>35414894
Stay off for a good 21 weeks mate. But keep training hard and see what happens

>>35414894
>ppl at my gym still think i roid
Just being off atm doesn't mean you're not a roider breh

>>35414908
>marrying at all
Is a tax cut really worth having your balls at someone's disposal.

>>35414894
>ppl at my gym still think i roid
wow how could they think that you are basically natty now that you have been off for 7 weeks

>>35414853
>>35414864
>>35414883
She's an 8/10 with two kids, and we've been together roughly a year and a half. Literally the only problem we have is the fact that she's got resting bitch face and is constantly starting fights or being bitchy.
And if there's an attractive woman in the vicinity, it doesn't matter if I've seen her or not. She's instantly pissed off at me for two hours minimum because the other girl's looks intimidated her. It's frustrating af.

>>35414938
>She's an 8/10 with two kids
please be b8

>>35414938
>with two kids
3/10 cause I might've actually believed the 8/10 part

>>35414922
i was off for a year and did an off cycle cut.

last year

I always have proof, yet you still doubt me

>>35414928
>>35414930
That's not what i meant.

I mean still on cycle. They think i'am still on cycle.

>>35414951
not b8 m8. She lifts with me too.

>>35414938
> two kids
:c

>constantly starting fights or being bitchy
handle your girl brah
dont let her turn you beta

>>35414964
>They think i'am still on cycle.
There's people who believe you are natty in your natty pics.

People are dumb, more news at 11 :3

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>>35414938
>Literally the only problem we have is... *constantly* starting fights or being bitchy
>already has 2 kids of her own
>so insecure she gets ass-devastated just being NEAR other women
>handing this kind of woman your nuts on a platter

>>35414804
Call me old fashioned but I like to think it does
>>35414712
Grats!

>>35414987
working on it m8. It's definitely a challenge. It'll all be worth it if I can knock out the drama.

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>>35414922
This is me 1 year off cycle and after an off cycle low carb diet(picture from a half year a go)

>>35414983
I was referring to the fact they don't see any difference when i was on cycle.

>There's people who believe you are natty in your natty pics.
nobody does

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>tfw last time I felt love for a girl was my ex like 4 years ago
>tfw she ain't even my real ex since I already had other relationships so she's like my ex ex ex
how do I feel love

Look after your kidneys i shit you not

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>>35415000
>It'll all be worth it if

RUN, FAGGOT

>>35415016
>I was referring to the fact they don't see any difference when i was on cycle.
Test doesn't make much of a difference to the physical aspect.

It makes gains come faster, but it doesn't exactly give you a "look" like Tren, mast, tren, eq or anadrol do.

>>35415020
:c

>>35415023
you okay?

>>35414813
Cool. Now you got to propose for real.

Do something stupid and over the top romantic to make her squee.

>>35414951
Milf pussy is cash. t b h

>>35415020
Love is complicated and different for everyone so I'm not really sure how to help you.

>>35415042
>Test doesn't make much of a difference to the physical aspect.
They make my shoulders look much bigger. Also thicker/more veins.

My shoulders always look smaller when i'am off.

Everything else stays the same

Most of you stay on for the mental effect, i guess. No one overe here is ifbb big, so no fear to lose ''all your gains''

Losing all your gains off cycle is a meme

>>35414894
how long have you lifted
how long have your been /fraud/ generally speaking

pls advise senapi

>>35415083
>Most of you stay on for the mental effect,
steroids are on hell of a drug. As someone that always disliked stuff like weed and the people that consume it I felt extremly surprised by how fast I got hooked with steroids.

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>>35414836
I'm not your friend, guy.

>>35415135
Literally my number one reason for roids is the alpha feeling I get. Tren for example. I stay on it as long as I possibly can simply because it makes me feel untouchable. Who tf wouldn't want that feeling?

>>35414813
>>35415070
Tell one of her friends to take her to get her nails done that day too. She can be in on it if she's not a cunt.

Bitches gonna be hyped as fuck for a shiny ring plus she's got new fancy nails to match

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sup fellas

>>35415187
hi

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>>35415128
>how long have you lifted
7 years in total i think. I did some pushups at home before that, but nothing serious

>how long have your been /fraud/ generally speaking
2 years now, i guess.

On and off

2 cycles.


>>35415135
Yeah, i like that feeling also. But if you're not able to go off and just want to stay on for the feeling, you're an addict.

Piano Rich is right about that.

You're depending on something to feel like you want to feel.

There are too many yolo's on this board imo.

>>35415187
sup breh

>>35415228
not much brochacho, living with the gf we got a cat so we psrs i guess

> on that glorious dreamer bulk 2015
> tfw love handles out of control

y do i even live m8s

>>35415227
I am addicted to shitposting

>>35415227
Do you think I'm a yolo?

>>35415242
sounds familiar. me and the lady got a kitten after we'd lived together about 4 months or so, but then it went crazy one day and left and never returned.

Lesson of the day: cats are fucking animals

>>35415227
>There are too many yolo's on this board imo.
>:c

>>35415174
Do it for the big shiny ring sex later that night

>>35415279

my cat is a legitimate faggot
saw her eat her own ass, ate it like groceries

wat yalll runnin these days

>>35415291
Not enough of you qt :3

>>35415174
This is pretty brilliant.

>>35415166
>Tren
I hated tren. I used to sleep like a baby, then tren happened. My last pin was on the 25. It felt like a Christmas Miracle.

>>35415242
>tfw love handles out of control
Seems like 90% of my fat goes there.

So JM AIDs test back yet?

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>>35415277
Since you started with a good base, not so.

I'am just saying; you shoudn't stay on the gear, just for that feeling.

Many just use that 'losing all gains' as an excuse to stay on.

>>35415329
All clear

>>35415310
youre too kind anon <3

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>>35415314

I need to be @ 10-11% for them to look normal, sitting at a solid 13 now it i feel like lovehandles on legs.

feelsbad mang

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>>35415370
for some reason, i don't wanna meet you with that face in a dark alley

>>35415413
s-something's wrong with my f-face?

>>35413082
not sure, maybe study sap $kek

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>>35415329

>>35415426
You face looks normal to me.

That face expression tho. I remember you got another picture, with the same expression.

>>35415462
Sounds boring breh.

how many exams/test do you need to do?

course length?

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>>35413827
>pineapple and nutella calzone

>>35413268
sometimes i find it hard to believe you are an adult

your thoughts about women are so childish

kek

>>35415478
new years evening clubbing is boring too
just a bunch of poor people overdressing and blowing their rent money

>>35415494
So, it's weird/childish to think that both partners have to have the same feelings/pleasure while having sex. I just can't do it.

It's more nuanced than the things you say about it imo.

I would understand it, if you have autism, no offense.

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>>35415510
you mean clubbing in general.

today

>driving to equadorian escort's home
>big white benz over takes me
>wondering what it is, assuming it's a boss s class
>holy mother fucking shit
>it's a brand new mercedes maybach

i was mirin so hard i nearly passed out

>>35415564
new year is a lot different

you see all these losers in suits and chit

oh brother

>>35415603
Yeah, clothes-wise.

But i was talking about the money, kek.

But you're from Belgium . Not gonna fire up some Belgium fireworks? Everyone over here wants that Belgium firework.

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>>35415565
pic related

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This is my last day of PCT and my libido is still shit(ups and downs, but still shit most of the time)

I'am not depressed anymore/feeling happy and energetic again.

Why is my libido still shit brehs?

>>35415673
awt u do for living m8 u so rich

>>35415687
>Why is my libido still shit brehs?

because your test levels are shot

"proper pct" is a troll, your test levels will never be the same after roiding

fact of life

>>35415687
>Why is my libido still shit brehs?
hormonal imbalance

>>35415174
>get her nails done

We're going to Cuba for a week, I'll be fine.

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>>35415698
read better

maybach overtakes me

i am not driving maybach

s mh
m
h

never gonna happen, i will need to learn how to be happy with e class

do roids make muscle imbalances worse?

always get pumps and left pec is bigger than right. planning on jumping on soonish, will this make it a lot worse?

>>35411482
what kind of strength gains do you get from the releasing peptides?

>>35415711
Could be, but i thought those other factors were also related to test levels(feeling energetic, mood etc.) I notice significantly good changes with those.

>>35415714
How long till it will be stable again? I'am a bit worried senpai yolo.

I trust on your precious knowledge

(i extended my pct with one week, because my cycle lasted for 17 weeks)

Is that something that could affect it?. please no bully

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>>35415739
They don't do shit for strength

They're used exclusively for fat loss recovery and anticatabolism

>>35415760
>How long till it will be stable again?
what was cycle/pct and when did you start pct?

I'm currently on tren/test/eq and I'm planning to switch to tren/test/mast after the winter. My question is that when I'm tren I have little to no hair loss is this a good sign that mast will have no effect on my hair? (Never taken mast)

>>35415687
test is still low probably

>>35415760
From my extensive knowledge of everything and from the details you have provided you have the dreaded "cancer aids"
This happens when regular aids gets cancer. this would usually kill the aids, BUT as we all know from maths when two negatives are added together they become a single larger negative
RIP

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>>35415730
mercedes is nice, but i like audi more.

Especially r8


>>35415792
3,5 week test-p 100eod
17 weeks test-e 500-800
1 week only some test-p left over.
1 week nothing

PCT:

Nolva only; 40/40/20/20/20

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>>35415687
Because you need to put longer.

>>35415760
ill improve your libido, if you know what i mean. no homo

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>>35415833
Pct

>>35415800
>My question is that when I'm tren I have little to no hair loss is this a good sign that mast will have no effect on my hair? (Never taken mast)
tren is a 19-nor
mast is a DHT

so they might effect it differently, I think.

>>35415823
idk.
give it some time.

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>>35415823
audi is garbage

mercedes is the king

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>>35415833
>>35415845
>>35415858
Are 5 weeks pct not enough for that cycle?


>>35415864
That's a nice one

bmw m6 is also pretty nice

>>35415800
I noticed no hair loss running mast at 600mg EW for about 16 weeks. Tren at 750mg EW causes me some very very slight thinning. I'd say give it a try.

>>35415864
>>35415858
>>35415845
>>35415823

answer pls
>>35415735

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>>35415864
Its almost like you hate luxury
The true king is Rolls Royce

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mirin

>>35415891
>Are 5 weeks pct not enough for that cycle?

in most cases it should be enough

>>35415898
doubt you actually have a imbalance.
training incorrectly will make it worse.
roids will make it worse /if/ training is fuckt

>>35414938
>c
>u
>c
>k
>e
>d

>>35415891
btw my balls and sperm are also normal again.

I don't know if it's related.

>>35415916
What would you suggest?

>>35415905
looks like a upgraded hearse/maffia/pimp car

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>>35415905
nothing you will say can change my mind

i tried to convince myself to like bmw

but mercedes is the king

>Go out to eat
>At salad bar
>QT next to me, both reach for the same general area
>She looks over and smiles at me
>I just look over

why the fuck am i still autistic on roids

>>35413583
Yeah obviously you risk thst

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>>35415940
>>35415929

Rolls Royce are the cars of Kings and Princes

>>35415929
>What would you suggest?
250mg test ew, but you dont wana b&c

give it like 4-6 weeks, if its still fuckt, then do another pct with nolva and clomid

>>35415948
>why the fuck am i still autistic on roids
were you not autistic as a natty?

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>>35415891
Your libido is still shit. Of course you need to do Pct again.
For anybody who cycles remember this

>PCT
>Do I still feel shit?
>If yes PCT again
>If no good to go

PCT isn't an exact science you're supposed to do it until it works. This is what doctors do as well.

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>>35415985
lmao that looks retarded

looks like the interior of a fishing boat or something

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>>35415898
If you're form is shit you'll grow unevenly. Roids don't change this.

>>35415985
>>35415940
looks awesome.

too bad i'am never able to afford it.

>>35416049
Yeah, but i don't feel shit at all. I feel content/happy and energetic again. Only libido is still not the same.

first weeks i was very depressed and was very tired all the time, but since week 3/4 i noticed significantly good changes in mood/energy levels etc.

I already did 5 weeks. Shall i extend it?

You ppl always say nolva is very crap

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>>35416053
This is where you sit
The comfort is second to none

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>>35416088
Who are you calling you people. Torem and nolva are great.

Is it better to train for a pump or go heavy when on cycle?

>>35416125
90% ppl who bnc over here.

A guy at my gym said he recovered from blasting 3 years straight

no pct

possible?

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>>35416088
>too bad i'am never able to afford it.

>>35411775
How about trying to commit to lifting for a year or so ? Going to the gym 5 times a week isen't for everyone, if you roid and decide to quit after a few months it will have been a waste and your health could take a hit. Just be patient for a while.

not /fraud/ulent yet, but I am wondering, do people ever take on-cycle SERMs/AIs when they don't have gyno? it seems like having avoided estrogen-induced testicular cell apoptosis would be helpful during PCT, but i rarely hear anyone talking about taking anti-estrogen anything unless they've started getting bitch tits

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>>35416101
lol

are they even trying?

mercedes number one

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>>35415996
So 5 weeks is enough for now?

If it's still shit i need to pct again after that?

>>35416179
ohh only 140k

it's nothing

>brb getting a phd

>>35416160
Yeah. Absolutely possible. Pct just promotes recovery. Your body is capable of doing it on its own.

Think of it like your liver. If you stop taking orals your liver recovers with time. You can promote faster recover with tudca nac milk thistle antioxidants etc.

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been thinking a long while about doing a test e cycle. it will be my first. I still need to find a place/person for a couple vials.

But my cycle would be for 12 weeks.
1-12 500mg/wk pinning mon/thurs
1-12 arimidex .5mg eod or more as needed

PCT (two weeks after last pin)
Tamoxifen at 60/40/30/20

hows that look? fyi im 27 and 5'9''. been weight lifting on an off for 6years and solidly the last year

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>>35410562
I like that picture.
Looking for yolo, dear yolo how arst thou?

pic related 2 hot for the chan

anyone take something like metformin? Wouldn't it help you gain more muscle by utilizing insulin more efficiently?

>>35416213
Crazy, how your body can recover.

I will just give it some time then. If it's not stable i will pct again.

>>35416211
it's a good price

go for it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD0oikofoac

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>>35416281
After i robbed your rich family, i will.

>>35416304
how do I avoid being like the guy on the right? like his muscles are big but really lack definition, like a bloating effect.

>>35416324
he's pretty high body fat whereas the guy on the left isn't and probably is on some steroids that give him a dry look

>>35416233
If it's your first cycle consider adding dbol

>>35416324
bodyfat

>>35416324
dont be a fat bloated piece of shit with inferior triceps and no legs

I need hair

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i saw that car in person and it's fucking enormously huge

>>35415720
There's nothing women like more than showing off

If she has perfect nails she can show off at the same time as a new ring she's gonna be 3x as happy

Woman logic

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>>35416433
fancy nails are for tickling your nuts

>>35416450
>that gut
but why, why does /fraud/ hate cardio? just fucking go out and run for a walk or some shit like that.

this would an excellent car for tony soprano

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUE3KpLuUp8
>>35416466
post a pic of yourself relaxed

do it

>>35416450

NIGGER, YOU HAVE BEEN IN EVERY FRAUD THREAD FOR MONTHS SHOWING US THE SAME PICS OF YOU AND THE SAME 4/10 PROSTITUTE ON THE SAME FUCKING BEACH

NIGGER HOW PATHETIC ARE YOU ON A SCALE FROM PATHETIC TO PATHETIC AS FUCK, YOU LOSER PIECE OF SHIT

CAPS ARE MANDATORY

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>>35416496
>you mad

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>>35416433
She can show me off :^)

>buying engagement rings

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it's really been a while since i miss baby mama

i think i'm finally over her

kek
e
k

took me 2 years

>>35416524
>not having a family heirloom engagement ring

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>>35416503
>jm I got my nails did u like it?

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really gotta start my summer 2016 blast prep

gotta look big and jacked at the beach for the honeys again

>>35416534
wearing someone else's ring is just creepy and weird.