fraud

>>34992856
If people think that I'm on steroids, should I take it as a compliment?
Because I think I look better desu

bitch on the right has legit man feet

>>34992856
wat up cheeksy?
why the shitty feels?

>>34992896
Fuckin kek

>>34992905
Neh feels are alright desu breh, muh test is kicking in and got a milf to play with

Sup as well

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>>34992926
i think i have bad genetics, even 3 weeks of 200mg dnp a day doesn't seem to give me sub 10% body fat.

maybe i should get it measured by some caliper dude

im in the middle of applying for some jobs. job applications piss me off so much.

did you ever post a pic of the milf? i remember a tinder match that claimd to be '26' that looked ok

>>34992949
it's all about your personal drive and will-power, not drugs (which sap you of your drive)
genetics do play a role but so does culture/upbringing

Does tren feel different than test? Mentally

>saturday
>no date for today
t-t-time for vidya I guess.

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Why is JM so insecure?


Is it because he has a dadbod?
Homosexuality?
Bald?
Unloved?


I genuinely do not believe he even has friends

>>34993025
>says the guy posting on 4chan on a Saturday night

>>34993033

Waiting for the gf, watching Canelo v Cotto later

>>34993049
>waiting for the gf
aren't we all waiting for the gf?

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I was in the previous thread.

I'm 24 years old, I have low levels of T (350ng/dl) but doctors won't prescribe anything because I fit within the "normal" range.

I want to start self administering a TRT dose of test to finally get what nature didn't give me.

Will I be ruining my naturally low test production for the rest of my life?

Will not being able to pin every week (because I have to travel abroad because of work) have a disasterous effect on what I'm trying to accomplish?

Thanks for your answers.

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>>34993068
This

>>34993076
why are doctors so headtards about prescribing test? the "normal" range is fucking huge, is someone has the symptons of low test might as well give him the test.

>>34993100
Because giving anyone outside hormones absolutely -can- fuck someone up.

Its honestly good that doctors are conservative with perscribing shit.

But its not like you can't just doctor-hop until someone gives you the shit you want.

>>34993100
doesnt know they have no problem prescribing it to trannies that want to be boys.

Go talk to a tranny who is a guy now and find a doctor who isnt going to give you shit about it. Its really not that hard. Fuck someone up. Doctors are the number 2 killers of people in the country every year consistently and you think they give a fuck about fucking anyone up

10/10

>>34993113
>>34993100
The ER docs and surgeons I know are all on gear.
Endos are just not bros sadly

steroids are for manlet faggots

>>34993100
>The ER docs and surgeons I know are all on gear.
wait, really? why?

>>34993133
this
You should probably include prescription pills in the mix

>>34992856
>>34992902
Every time I see this picture on /fit/, I will never not comment on how the bitch on the right has massive feet.

being natty is for straight lanklets.

>>34993143
They just script it to one another. All into lifting or other sports.
Buy wife tits, get tesla, raise perfect plastic fantastic family.

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>>34993100

I don't know. i guess that finding a source would be way easier that jumping around and getting judged by the all-knowing doctors who think I want it to use it recreationally (I want to feel good, that's it).

>>34993076
>I have to travel abroad because of work

Buy test Undecanoate.

>>34993152
Bro. It's "I will never fail to comment..." double negatives should be avoided wherever possible.

'Bout to start my second blast. 600mg test/300mg deca. I have nolva and letro on hand. Do I need anything else?

>>34993365
yeah my dick in your mouth

this >>34993179

was meant for this person >>34993128

>>34993365
Letro is the nuclear option of AI, get yourself some aromasin.

>>34992986
Makes you more emotional. Maybe more agressive maybe more calm.

Im really calm on tren than when im cruising on test

>>34993386
Dully noted, so I should order that instead of the letro?

>>34993238
omg i lernt english

>>34993416
check reddit/steroids

>>34993408
Yes.

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So I'm planing another cycle and planing to add tren to this one.

Some people recommend high test low tren
Some people recommend low test high tren
Some people say 50/50

Goddamn /fraud/ whats a good ratio to start at? Will adjust as needed, obv.

>>34993416
Too much info. Google and watch youtube till you get a decen understanding

The 35M get will be for fraud.
And it will be unscripted and dramatic

>>34993426
Goal?

>>34993100
They did kind of go to four years of medical school, I'd assume they might have a bit of a problem giving someone something that they want (but don't need) when it can have every side effects when used improperly.
>also dat malpractice lawsuit doe

>>34993477
>>34993426

Just trying to build muscle without getting any fat, maybe lose a pound or two. I've only run dbol+test cycles but I end up getting pretty round.

>>34993167
That kinda reminds me of the "JUST" guy, the one with the fucked up haircut.
I think he has fake pecs and all.

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>>34992902
I could of lived my whole life without seeing that. Motherfuckers are legit pancakes. I don't like feet so I never noticed before.

>>34993426
Fuck tren. Go high test and high mast :D

>>34993579
Higher tren then, do a recomp at maintenance calories with fairly low fat/high protein. You'll probably have to up the calories over time to stay at maintenance since tren will increase your bmr.

>>34993617
>high test and high mast
If the tren sides don't end up being too bad ill toss some mast in there next time. Only using tren cause it was marginally cheaper than mast when I got it.

Can you switch compounds while on cycle? like going from mast to tren or from tren to mast?

quick question lads

On 5th week of tren a 50ed, test e 200/w, 0.25 arimidex eod

First week or two of tren was amazing, sickening strength gains, alpha af attitude

But now im getting kinda lethargic at times, i seem to have lost some definition, and my face is getting kinda puffy

I know for a fact that 0.25mg arimidex eod is more that enough, been cruising on 200test e/week for months without any ai and no sides

What's the issue then? Should I order some caber to deal with progesterone? dick works fine at the moment

pls help

>>34993678
The compounds take some time to build up so its not usually a good idea. If you run out of one I guess switching would be better than just stopping, but its something you want to avoid. AFAIK the only people who really switch up compounds and stuff are BBs when they are getting ready for a comp, but keep in mind they are usually taking like 10 things through the course of their pre-show cycle.

>>34993706
Could be your body is just super tired from the big workouts, had that issue on my early cycles. Don't know your routine but maybe try taking a few days off before trying anything more srs.

>>34993522
Not only that, but you'd be risking your license and all those years of hard work and debt to give every Johnny fuckboy who walks into the gym a schedule 1 controlled substance

Anyone here ever run E ( at high dosage)? 800-1000. Any experiences?

>>34993078
somewhere somehow there is a father crying over his son, he spent two tours in Iraq. Lost is comrades in battle with honor, won is lover over with chivalry and patience. Only to hold his head low when people ask about his next-of-kin. An empty hole in his rich and earned life, maintained by a rigid and worn out father, perhaps it was his crimes against the fellow man that drove his own blood to be repulsive dross.

>>34993799
*Eq

I'm 6´3 and 180 pounds, want to gain some muscle weight. Have been mostly running the past year doing 50+km/week and lifting maybe 2 times/week. If I change to lifting 6 times /week and running 2, how fast do you think i can gain 10+ pounds? And what would be the effects of taking test only for a short period, say 2 months, should I expect any side effects? Loss of gains after?

2000 matches and the worst have still been the fatties.

How can you be ugly inside and out and still be on Tinder, jesus fucking christ.

>>34993885
why do you swipe right on un-attractive people?

>>34993752
The thing is, lethargy reks my motivation

I'm out of pwo and now it's becoming more common for me to skip certain days

smdh

I have to see my doctor on Tuesday and I took my last Test P shot yesterday. im going in on short notice due to a suspected thyroid issue. My shit is gonna be fucked up. Should I just play dumb here? My levels were about, 1500 on my ED 50mg pin. I haven't used an AI in a week. Starting to bloat and shit. Anyway, comprehensive bloods are gonna show crashed FSH and the works. Do I say I took some "preworkout" I got on the Internet or some shit? If my thyroid is fucked, I want it fixed. But idk how having over hormone levels so wacked out will affect the doctor's diagnosis. Afraid to be honest, desu

>>34993706
Adex is harsh bro.

I just stopped taking it because of my joints. Squatting is like getting smacked in the knees. Do it anyways though.

I was on a fairly low dose as well. Got some asin that I'll start if need be.

>>34993899
I don't swipe at all, I just make that auto thing do it. I don't want to waste time looking at people I'll never talk to, I just do the sorting after the match.

>>34993678
If it's ace and prop yes.

Long esters I wouldn't.

I would use each short water for at least 6-8 weeks before switching though to actually reap benefits.

>>34993934
Short ester*

>>34993923
I would be honest. He will probably give you some hcg and tell you to come back in a few weeks when your hormone levels are more stable

Why did you guys choose to use PED? Was it for athletic reasons or the ability to scupt your bodies with less of natures restrictions?

Sincerely curious, I like the idea of PED but I don't need them for my current goals.

>>34993965
I use them to get fast results.

Plain and simple

Oh wow, I fucked up.

Mentioning saving virginity for a girl cannot be pulled off, unless they're into that specifically.
Either you come off as actually inexperienced or you remind them you're very experienced.

Fuck.

Are there any hgh type peptides? I was looking at oral MK 677 and fragment 176-191.

MK 677 sounds promising, but I don't know what to do in terms of dosing for long term athletic performance, sleep quality, etc. Also don't know if PCT is necessary if running for, say, 3-5 months.

176-191 sounds like it only has the fat loss properties of hgh, and not development of new fibers and bone density, which is what I would want, since I'm already fairly lean and stay lean.

Any good reads, stuff to look at, etc?

>>34993078
>>34993806
He is already dead.

>>34993965
Build crazy strength and hopefully when I come off (lol) I can keep at least a little of the strength. Don't really care too much about how I look

>>34993970
For athleticism or bodybuilding?
What do you think about how bothered "normal" people get about PED?

>>34993999
This has worked for me about 1/2 the time I've used it. Maybe you're just doing it wrong

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>shit posting from work
Ayyyyy

>>34994038
It seems like most people have accepted women using whatever medical procedures available to enhance their appearance and the mentally ill changing their genders(kinda) with surgery and hormones, what have people said about you altering your potential through medicine?

>>34994051
Wasn't a complete flop, she just shrugged it off and continue conversation, but damn, it killed the innuendo chemistry instantly.

>>34994090
"Steroids are bad mkay"

>>34994133
Maybe you just aren't bantering hard enough to use that line

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>>34993999
After I fuck a girls brains out and we laying there I always make a joke like it was my first time or say yay I'm not a virgin anymore.
Usually the girl laughs and says there is no way that was my first time.
Feels good breh

>>34994144
Yeah, I guess. It was a bit too direct compared to the rest.

>>34993999
I've told a few girls I am a virgin and just desperately trying to get laid before I'm 25
It usually goes over really well
Convinced the current gf for a couple of weeks that I was a virgin

Man we are bunch of liars huh

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>>34994081
oh lawdy

Something funny happened yesterday.
This dude I know that sells oil,pills,weed,coke, and electronics. Is going to jail after his court date in a week.

I asked him to sell me all his test tren and deca at cost and he said yes.
I'm just scared to pick it up because I know his ass is under surveillance

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Thinking about hopping on anavar soon, what % bf should I drop down to first before I do? Currently around 12~13% bf 175lb 5'10"

Pic related 1 year of progess (ec stack helped a lot).

>>34994245
Tell him to drop it off in a box somewhere. Just set a drop location. He needs to see if he's followed. Pick it up once you think the coast is clear

>>34994283
Thanks Bro I Will figure something out.
>>34994250
Why not do a test cycle dude like seriously I understand you want to lean out and be hard from the var
But run test with it in my unprofessional opinion

>Gf is alone at concert
She's been texting through the night, but damn this pushes on my jelly/needy side.
How to trust more

>>34994341
You don't trust you stay on edge at all times.
That doesn't mean be intrusive or over bearing but just keep that one eye open

>>34994341
Cheat on her first
Trust me, takes the weight of your shoulders
It's only a matter of time bro - deep down, in this fucked up yolo entitled feminazi culture, you know that

>>34994341
These hoes aint loyal brah

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>>34994310
Tbh idk shit about roids. Only reason I mentioned anavar is because my friend did it a year ago and it's probably the only form of roids I can probably be able to get (also so because it's the mildest). Also I'm sure this is pretty common but I don't want it to be obvious that I'm on gear.

Do you have any links/articles anything really on more information of test and anavar (and whatever other forms of juice)? I want to do more research.

Is there a /fraud/ sticky??

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>>34994150
>>34994167

Exactly. I've "lost my virginity" like three times.

>>34994341
I was at a concert 2 weeks ago and this chick was rubbing her ass on my dick to the point I had a full hard on (T-thanks yohimbine) and she just kept on going while I was holding her hips.. Her bf was less than a foot in front of her.

>>34994389
Google
Testosterone
Anavar
You will learn loads from the top websites that come up. It Wil give you a base knowledge

If you do a test cycle no one will know you are on roids. It's not like what you think. You will get results but it's not what you think will happen.

>>34994408
>>34994367
>>34994361
>>34994359
;__;

>>34994361
>>34994367
This is the tren talking

>>34994167
Im 22 and a virgin. Im not some neckbeard, girls have told me im attractive and I had a few chances to have sex but kinda blew it because im super autistic and anxious.

I feel like its something thats gonna happen soonish but it makes me anxious being with a girl and telling her im a virgin at 22. Is there any hope for me?

Has anyone here gone from fatass to muscular? Ive got alot of loose skin and there is no way for me to be aesthetic with loose skin. Ive already saved 1500 in the past month for the surgery. Im bulking for 10 weeks then cutting for the next 4 months

>>34994468
Go to backpage ns buy an escort. Just nut in her booty nd move on

>local TRT clinics are $200+ a month
>Don't want my insurance to know I use test

Does anyone know where I can get a doctor to prescribe me TRT online? And help guide me through proper TRT protocols so I don't fuck myself up forever?

>>34994468
You need Tinder, anon. Let the tinder flow through you.

>>34994046
Bodybuilding. Too old to play anything besides golf nowadays :D. I think it's funny that they get upset. I could understand if I was competing and had some unfair advantage at winning a title but I don't. It's just for myself so I don't see why they care.

>>34994484
th..thanks

>>34994496
yea i just moved to NYC. im gonna get on tinder and OK cupid which i havent done before and try to find a qt3.14 who's nice. thanks anon

>>34994521
I've got about 1100 matches in NYC. Let me know if you come across any you want insider knowledge on.

>>34994521
What part of the city brah, BK?

>>34994530
Lol
When i go to new York I will let you know
I got Los Angeles on lock so let me know

>>34994530
Damn thanks bro.
>>34994532
Ridgewood, just by Bushwick.

Literally where all the cutie transplant hipster girls move. I just got two months ago. finally found a decent job so im gonna start going out more

>>34993799
Frontloaded 2gs into 800/wk eq currently
Appetite is way up. Can eat bland food all day no problem.
Shoulders are improving, joints feel good.
Pumps are decent, veins for days.
Bloat is mild, clopping was hard at the start.

>>34994468
>telling her im a virgin

So don't tell her, just get the experience in and move on.

>>34994604
So many hot hipster chicks around there and so many places to meet them. Your gonna have a blast man.

>>34994618
Hey I have some test u too.
I don't need to use it for awhile, but I've noticed it crashes worse then cyp even.
What do to combat this?
Was thinking about blending it or adding more bb

>>34994618
I mean i thought about this but after busting in 30 seconds she might suspect something is up.

eh i'll probably say something once i'm already in bed
>>34994624
i'm pretty stoked dude. My type of crowd too. I think bar sluts are hot but I just cant do that. Really happy to be here for many reasons

Should you avoid eating before/after dosing MK-677?
I know with peptides you should avoid carbs or something for a few hours but idk about MK-677.

>>34994668
Mah nigga. I can't fuck with bar sluts either, but keep in mind most of the chicks that your gonna meet are pretty slutty. I love hipster chicks though, I'm currently banging one from Hoboken. A lot of them seem to be into the casual thing... it's cool I guess but
>tfw no gf

>>34994668
I ended up lasting a good amount of time when I lost my v card, you never know breh.

>>34994643
I just have to heat it up every time I pin, I don't know what concentration it would be able to hold at in standard BA/BB.

>>34994737
>tfw no gf

It's a good feel though. I don't like the bar slut thing either anymore. I've been so horny on this cycle that I'm debating hitting up the backpages. Get what I want (pussy) they get what they want (money) and part our separate ways.

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>>34994830
I remember making my gf gasp and moan and writhe when I lost my virginity. I felt like a fuck machine.

I didn't find out till afterwards she was gasping because it hurt, and writhing in pain. lol

In4 hanging out in hospital for the last 10 days

What is even fucking life

B& for 30 days

>>34994946
What happened to you?

Also
>reading, YouTube, videogames

>>34993152
This so much. I only came in here to see if anyone noticed. They also look like someone glued a piece of sand papaer to the bottom.

>>34994414


man I'm on a test only cycle rn. family is alreay starting to suspect I'm a fraud. it's 10 weeks into my cycle. I'm seriously considering just ending the cycle early now.

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Ive been thinking about what im wanting to do for my thailand trip and this is what my plan is...

3 weeks of DNP starting tomorrow (preloaded antihystamines) and then i am going to do 250mg of test a week for 4 weeks before i get into thailand. That way i should be hitting my stride as i get to the gym and pick up gear over there. That way i have 6 weeks in thailand running peak test. Thinking about doing some var as well, starting 2 weeks before i leave. Running arimidex at .5 EOD. Does that sound right for a fat fuck?

So fucking excited for this trip. Last time i was up here i came back in great shape...until i got my shoulder broken. :(

Anyways think that looks good guys?

Ill probably bring nolva and clomid just in case anything gets weird and i have to abort too.

>>34995015
I've gained 20lbs in 5 weeks and no one suspects a thing kek

Dat dere creatine and scoops

>>34995016

cant stand DNP, the sweaty sleeps starting day 3, the shit lethargy feelings. Much prefer EC stacks.

>>34994941
Ouch, mine was an easy ho who came in 5 minutes and just kept riding.

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>>34994946
RIP

>>34995000
Did you post butts?

>>34995016

Don't forget to check out the saunas, I hear they have really great saunas in Thailand.

>>34995044
I said "restocked."

Seems harsh but its their board

>>34995049


gross. why would i want to be a dead cunt

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>>34995062

whats your email?


candykid86 at gmale is mine. lets talk....?

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>>34995043
Yeah, she was obnoxiously tight, and super hard to get off. But I didn't know any better. It ended up being the best sexual learning experience I could have asked for.

The first time fucking another girl was like night and day.
>What do you mean you're coming a third time?!
>It's only been 20 minutes!

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Australians here.

Any of you use this store? (Or any other online supplier).

http://muscle-science-australia.com/store/

They only have peptides and SARMs though.

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Can anyone point me in the right direction for some anastazole(arimidex) in California? I hear I should look into Indian generics. What do?

>>34995399
You heard right bruh.

Starting my first cycle test 500 + 40mg dbol

I should run my AI (aromasin) right from the start right? 12.5 mg eod?

And how can I control the dbol bloat?

It seems every shirt I buy online from the U.S. Is heaps better fitting than anything I buy in Aus

In Aus
>shoulders not wide enough
>no room for lats
>bottom of shirt is lower than my zipper
>way too wide below lats

American shirts
>wide shoulders
>sits snug on lats
>doesn't ride armpits
>nice and slim all the way down
>sleeves sit just high enough that I don't get tan line half way down arms
>usually slightly stretchy and don't get all out of shape from moving around

Seriously fuck literally 99% of the clothes sold in this country
The only decent thing I've gotten here are V necks and even they get stretched out too much after a few uses

>>34995586
Least it's a good ego boost being too muscular for clothes instead of being too fat.

>>34995586
I never used to wear anything from them, but once I got swole the abercrombie shirts fit fucking perfect. I get them in the US i dunno if they sell different shit down there bruh. BTW I cursed out an Aussie merch guy at the Parkway Drive concert last week in NYC. He was a douche, are you all like that? lol

>>34993965
I want to use them because I do MMA 3X a week and don't have time to go to the gym without being exhausted for MMA. Easy to just pin and get muscle instead of having to do MMA and lift to gain muscle.

Buy an x large tank top online
Didn't know it was from China
It looks like a baby gap t shirt on me

>>34995586
Iktfb

>>34995586
I get all my tees from Uniqlo or AsColour. They fit well and don't loose shape.

> Wearing v necks

>>34995563
>I should run my AI (aromasin) right from the start right? 12.5 mg eod?
yup, later on if you have low estro signs, lower dosage, if you have high estro signs up dosage

>And how can I control the dbol bloat?
by controling estro, and salt in take maybe

im on okcupid trying to secure strange for my trip to thailand when i come across a girl thats got "core values" under six things they could not live without.

Looking for: long term relationship, short term relationship, casual sex


>Core values
>casual sex

KEK


what other websites do young people use to fuck dumb girls nowadays?

>>34996012
We get it motherfucker, your going to Thailand

Your fat

You used to fight people

Your not interesting

>>34996028

lol i still fight people sillypants mcgillycutty

inb4 youre an ex navy seal.

I live in a small rural town in AK so i don't use websites for trolling for strange because there's only like 50 people on it that I've probably already banged. I found that anecdote amusing and figured id share.

Also, it's *you're you fucking pleeb.

>>34995644
>He was a douche, are you all like that?
What? All of us? Douches?

>abercrombie shirts
I'll google

>>34995791
>Wearing v necks
You talking shit about V necks?

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>>34996012
>mfw the chick I wanna date only wants a causal thing
God damn you roids for giving me this body that chicks just want to use...

>>34995791
Da Fuck is wrong with v necks?

As long as they are not deep Vs because those are for Homos

>>34996132
They are gay as fuck desu senpai

>>34996139
Na senpai a regular v neck that is just as high cut as a crew cut shirt looks fine

>>34996139
>worrying about being gay

lol. true beta

>>34996110
>What? All of us? Douches?
I'll take that as a yes lol
>>34996153
True, I'm thinking of those deep cut ones I see all the time now. They look ridiculous. My bad brah

>>34996167
Whip out that ass faggot I ain't scared to fuck another man in his ass!

>>34996182
big difference between worrying and being but I'm glad your homosexual tendencies are coming out now.

>>34996188
It was actually a quote from a movie from the 90's young boy. But I got no shame in my game nigga. I'll make your girl a kek right now bruh

>>34996195
you're going to make my right hand a kek? What an utter faggot. I'm really glad we released your gayness in this dioenergetic manner

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>>34996208
You poor guy. Hop on tinder or something man. They are out there and easy as hell.

>>34996174
Love you senpai

>>34996239
I don't have facebook or a smartphone.

I want to fuck my teacher rn though. That would be nice

>>34996252
<3
>>34996257
Cmon senpai get with the times and get a phone. Make a fake facebook and your good. Or just start hitting bars.

>>34996286
I don't want some stupid normie slut. I get mires from normies all the time, fk them.

>>34996296
>I don't want some stupid normie slut
Yes you do anon, they are easy to impress and you can bang lots of them

>>34996296
Iktf breh. But they are one in a million these days. At least have some fun.

boy, manletgains sure is a loser

>>34996385
woopsies. forgot trip

on the real tho

>>34996377
fuck for a bit, release some dopamine. pop some pills, feel euphoric all day. lol...good cardio I guess.

>>34996380
lol, I am beyond that point.

>>34996410
Me too bro... Me too

Who blasting big in 2016?

How depressive is post cycle therapy? Does running HCG during cycle help mitigate the depression and Low Tee?

>>34996622
it's personal. some people go through hell, some don't even notice it. take your drugs and cross your fingers.

hcg is suppressive. you can run it for a few weeks prior to help get your balls primed, but not during

>>34996410
Do it son!

Welcome fraud to the JM cyoa,

The setting,
You wake up in a cold dark room
>Fucking tren sweats
Freezing what's left of yer balls off you roll over.
>why's babby mommas side of the bed cold?
It's then that you realize that it was only a dream and you haven't seen her in years.
>baka
Judging by the light you still have an hour or two before you have to get ready for work.
Sleepings not an option, everytime you dream of baby mama and losing her once a day is bad enough.
The bed stains as you force jms mountain of white muscle into a sitting position.
Looking around the room you see a plastic pussy on the bedside table, a camera on top of a coke bottle, several receipts from expensive clothing, a computer, and a faint light coming under the door.

Your move /fraud/, how does JM start out the day?

>>34995705
MMA is rule system- not a training,you dont do a rule system.

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>SARMs

How have you guys gone using them?
I'm able to get some legally (serious anabolics are illegal where I am) so since I'll know what it is I figure this can help me. It's also more about helping a back injury and the muscle gains are a nice plus.

How have you guys gone using SARMs?

I'm not expecting near the kind of gains you guys get on test, deca or dianabol so think of it more as a comparison to just being natty.

>>34996880
I have done Sarms didn't use a.pct after it was whatever

I prefer pinning the real deal senpai

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>>34996896
Yeah I know what you mean, thing is I think I'll be a retard and fuck myself up if I try major gear and my ideal size is really only 4-5 kilograms heavier than what I am now.

If I can have a doctor that is supervising and don't have to worry about the po po then I figure what the hell?

What did you take and do you mean you didn't need a PCT?

>>34996901
If you have a doctor then take them, a pct is post cycle therapy it is what you take after your endocrine system /testes get shut down

Sarms don't really cause a shutdown I believe I don't know
I know a ton about steriods not a lot about sarms

>>34996917
Fair deal.

Thanks for the help senpai.

>>34996917
Sarms do shutdown if you run them for too long/too high dosage, mini pct is required sometimes

>>34995334
Customs has never stopped any of my parcels, one time they even opened it, saw the illegal shit inside and then resealed it and gave it their stamp of approval, Border Security is nothing but propaganda

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>>34995586
>The only decent thing I've gotten here are V necks and even they get stretched out too much after a few uses
Lel ur mum got stretched out too much after a few uses by me last week
>jk luv u Manlet

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>>34996992
>one time they even opened it, saw the illegal shit inside and then resealed it

What kind of vial is it in?

Because they could have just thought it was a vial of something that is legal or something.

Or maybe the guy was on gear himself and felt he'd help a bro out.

Though /aus/ related I've found a peptide clinic in Sydney I can order from. Not as good as straight gear (I'm guessing you're on heavier shit than peptides and SARMs) but I'm really going for a larger version of ottermode anyway so I figure I'd stay in my lane.

>>34996880
SARMs don't compare to being on steroids but if your only goal is a few kilograms of muscle then I think they are a decent alternative.
Run 10mg LGD-4033 for 8 weeks.
When you finish the LGD-4033 start 20mg tamoxifen (nolvadex) for 4 weeks.

>>34997029
Peptides just come in a little vial, like I said you'd be mindblowingly unlucky if they seized your package, even if they do you're not going to get v& for it

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>>34997075
Yeah why is that?

It's illegal to import and have so why don't they follow it to the address and then whack the bracelets on you when you get it?

They'd do it if I was importing an AK-47... probably...

Arimidex vs aromasin?
Need one out of two for a cycle

>>34997086
1. Any criminal defence lawyer on earth would get the case thrown out of court in about five minutes arguing circumstantial evidence
2. It's expensive as fuck to prosecute someone, the police simply don't have the budget to prosecute everybody using illegal shit solely for personal use
3. Immigrants who barely speak English frequently have there cousin over in Pakistan/Moldova/Thailand ect send them over a vial of test since they don't know that it's illegal, hence customs just seizes that shit and sends them a letter telling them not to do it again, if they keep doing it they have the police give them a warning in person, if they still keep doing it only then do they start looking to actually prosecute

P.s. it's actually very easy to dismantle a gun and send the parts over to reassemble in Australia, trust me

>>34997119
Armi

>>34997122
Interesting, I didn't know that about point 1, point 2 makes sense now that I think about it.

Maybe they looked at your box and said "he's white, guess he's alright" and sent it on it's way?

As for 3 well I get that much though smuggling some parts would be harder than others. A spring is a piece of cake, lower/upper assemblies are harder as you can't really hide them in plain sight.

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In4 had to walk out on fwb yesterdays.

These bishes can't keep still. Why fraud, why.

I just want some poon.

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>>34997140
1. Go to a dump or something and get some pieces of scrap metal from an old powerdrill or something
2. Put scrap metal in a box
3. Put one or more components of gun in box
4. Mail box to it's destination
5. Take gun components out of box
6. Reassemble
7. Have fun

Bikie gangs have been doing this for years

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>>34997157
Iktfb

>>34997163
So simple and yet so easy.

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>>34995747
Reminds me of the time I bought some xl shirts in the Philippines, they were like US xsmall.

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>re: diet

What kind of diet modifications would I be running while on gear?

I'm guessing you'd eat more than the 500 above maintenance you do if you're natty.

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>>34997199
More carbs less fats is what people generally do

>>34997211
most people are idiots

>>34997199
If you're cutting then you can eat less calories than you could natty without losing lean body mass, if you're bulking then you can eat way more calories without gaining as much body fat, the purpose of roids is to do the same things you did natty only better, not reinvent the wheel

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>>34997237
I know right?

On roids and still fat.

They don't cease to impress.

>>34997199
To answer you, what are your body composition goals.
Where are you now, where do you want to be and when; and how long are you going to be on for and at what doses and how long are you going to be off?

>>34997157
Explain mah nigga.

>>34997238
im a different guy, im just curious now
if im a 2m lanklet at 110kg bw, how much could i eat while on a simple test cruise thing? right now i can go for around 3400 without gaining weight. id guess on test i could aim for 4000.

>>34997267
Probably be on about 6000 at your stats.

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>>34997238
>>34997263
>>34997211
I'm only wanting to take SARMs (i know, i know).

I'm 6"2 at 79 kilograms, wanting to get up to about 82 though if I could go for gold I'd be happy with more.

>>34997277
180g protein / day
110g fats
195g carbs
2500kcal

Increase carbs by 5% every week that goes by you do not weigh 1lb more than 7 days ago

>>34997275
you know that 200% maintenance sounds really ridicilous? i dont think my wallet would be able to handle that. 8 euros a day for food is hard enough as it is

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>>34997287
You did the maths then and there?

Well thanks familia. Though I thought I'd be wanting more than 2500.

>>34996659
>>why's babby mommas side of the bed cold?
>It's then that you realize that it was only a dream and you haven't seen her in years.

this actually happens now and then

it's horrofying

>>34997295
Yeah I made a program to do it for me based on formula
Up the starting calories if you wish, I like to start a bit low personally as my appetite stalls out hard unless I get a "running shot" at it

>>34997291
What sounds ridiculous is a maintenance of 3500. I was a little over 3000 as a 90kg natty, 20cm shorter than you. Dyel?

>>34997314
Maybe he's a lumberjack or something.

>>34997314
i just started lifting a couple months ago. im curious about roids

>>34997277
Clinical trials of LGD-4033 using borderline homeopathic doses and no exercises or dieting still showed gain of half a kilogram of muscle every week, run that shit for two months then take a little nolva and you should reach your goals

it really seems like i still dream about her almost every night

life wil never be the same

Sacudiendo mi cabeza

>>34997335
Just move on senpai it's jut holding you back.

You looking at your past with rose tinted glasses

>>34997335
to get over someone old, get under someone new
otherwise, pin at least 600mg of test weekly with a good oral frontload and the iron will be your wife, the gym your bedroom

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>>34997327
Shit ey, LGD4033, I'll remember it.

Though I was looking at "osterine" and S22 for my injury related crap.

>>34997340
The cure for a girl, is another girl.

I do remember once years ago getting off the bus with the new flame one lonely afternoon and at the stop was my former heartache looking at us.

>>34997340
>You looking at your past with rose tinted glasses

yes i think this is true because i always remind myself also the bad sides of this woman

>spends so much money
>unfaithful
>pathological liar
>violent, destroyed a large window, kicked down my door, attacked me several times
>lazy, doesn't work a day in her life an honest job
>greedy, the world is not enough


hmmm hmm

i wonder why is my brain trying to trick me that this is the most special bitch alive

>>34997355
Just remember the reasons it didn't work it's what I have to do when I miss an x.

>>34997342
>to get over someone old, get under someone new

>>34997349
>The cure for a girl, is another girl.


but no girl wants to be with me

sacudiendo mi cabeza

>>34997376
keep lifting, the pussy will come right to your door

Thoughts on a winnie only cycle for my first time roiding? Advice?

>>34997392
You are not ready for roids if you srsly consider a winstrol only cycle

>>34997392
orals only is retarded idea

>>34997399
>>34997401
Reasoning for both of these, why is it that bad? I was really thinking it cause its more accessible than anything else in my current situation.

>>34997416
biggest reason is that your HPTA gets shut down and leaves you without test in your system, which leads to all kinds of complications
other issues: you can't run orals for a long time without bad liver damage, so your cycle becomes short and useless, you lose everything you gained the whole time

Started self-TRT at 250mg test-e EW, taking aromasin eod. Got low estro sides after my second pin. Stopped taking aromasin altogether and haven't had any high estro sides yet, currently on week 5.

Is this normal? Am I just not that prone to high estro sides or am I suddenly gonna wake up with gyno?

>>34997458
you don't need an AI~

>>34997448
Alright thanks for that mate, appreciate it. What do you think is the best first cycle for minimising side effects? Not concerned about high-scale results, just something to speed things up but still drift around the safe side.

>>34997471
Cause of the low dose? Am thinking of bumping it up to 250mg test-e e3d, I'm guessing I'd need one then?

>>34997477
if you want the smallest cycle ever, 8 weeks of sust 400mg with no frontload. you won't get much out of it, but I guess you'll learn something about your life. let me know if you want the gold standard newbie cycle.

How is it buying pins in-store in the US? I typically use gpz but I forgot (work has been crazy hours) and now I'm out drawing pins :0

>>34997494
Wouldn't really be TRT then.

>>34997503
Just buy them. Nobody is going to ask what you plan to do with them. They'll just assume you're either a druggie or you got the beetus. Unless you look like a roided up meathead in which case kek

>>34997513
Well no but I am enjoying these feels and might as well go full homo now.

>>34997494
just use a SERM

>>34997519
Do you buy them in store?

>>34997503
I just used amazon, they had luer lock syringes and pin replacements

>>34997519
where I used to live, I wasn't allowed to buy pharmacy pins without a fucking interview

>>34997501
Yeah fire away man I'd love to hear it. The thing is I'm 19 so I was hoping for something where the chances of it fucking me up long-term are fairly easy to mitigate, if there's any way to do so. Still though, hit me with this "gold standard" shit

>>34997531
Where did you used to live anon?

>>34997554
At 19 you shouldn't be cycling, your test levels have a while to go before peaking so you should make benefit from your natties before you play with your HPTA. I was 21 the first time I cycled, lost a little bit of my hairline, and that was too soon anyway. 23-25 years old is a better age to start if you must. Anyway, basic newb cycle:

week 1-4: 25mg of dianabol every day
week 1-10: 250mg of testosterone enanthate every 3.5 days (alternate AM/PM)
week 8-12: 250iu of HCG every 3.5 days
week 1-12: 0.25 to 0.5mg of anastrozole every 2 to 3 days
week 13-14: 40mg of nolvadex daily
week 15-16: 20mg of nolvadex daily

if you want something that will minimal fuck with your HPTA, you can do a low to medium dose of anavar or maybe SARMs. almost everything else will fuck with your natural testosterone production.

>>34997557
Louisiana. I think most bible belt states are the same way.

>2015
>not being a total badass ex SAS parachute instructor
>haven't saved any teenagers lives in your last moments

http://www.baka.com.au/nsw/skydiving-instructor-tony-rokov-killed-in-accident-at-goulburn-airport-20151121-gl4raf.html#ixzz3sClHFssu

>>34997583
Really, hair loss at 21? Thats pretty intense. I've been tossing up the idea of jumping off the natty train for months, and I think it'd be less painful to do a "less damaging" steroid than to spend half a decade waiting until it was safer to use substances that are still dangerous anyway.

Thanks for the suggestions my man, they help a lot. I'll look into Anavar a bit further.

>>34997616
not terrible loss. I'm trying to figure out if the dbol or test led to it, or if it was the small dose of tren I dropped into the last 5 weeks. I didn't notice it for the longest time, then one day like a year or so after I had been off cycle, I realized that my hairline had slightly receded. It made me uncomfortable, but after changing my hairstyle I realized no one would really notice and I can still pull off an attractive look. but I guess I was blindsided by the belief that I was genetically protected from hair loss.

>>34997625
A cycle with tren at 21, on top of everything else? How fucking swole did you end up after that? If you didnt even notice it for a year then youre right, nobody in the world is gonna pick up on it

>>34997583
why HCG and anastrozole?!

>>34997661
it wasn't very much tren, I think it was like 300mg/week for five weeks or something, two ml a week so multiply that by however much they put in one ml, then adjust for the fact that a lot of online suppliers underdose their shit. it wasn't that amazing, it was just on top of 500mg of test-e since the dbol had already left my system a few weeks before, and I was trying to cut during the tren weeks so I under-ate. I also didn't get to the gym enough because I kept pinning my glutes and had too much PIP to want to go do squats, plus the tren gave me tren flu so I spent too much time at home when I could have been maxing my gains, much less than the 5-7 gym sessions a week that I had intended to go for.

all in all the cycle started out great, flattened out and then didn't really go anywhere, kind of waste but it's hard to figure out how to maximize your first cycle when you can't really talk about it openly and don't have people to walk you through it. In terms of gains, I looked a little better than DYEL above the waist going in (although my legs and lower back have always been pretty good), came out with the first noticeable arm, shoulder, and lat development I'd really seen in my life. I'd say I looked as good finishing the cycle as I had at the peak of my dbol portion, you always lose some size after the water weight from the dbol goes out but you get that size back from the continued use of injectables. I feel like I'm finally going from simply "looks like he lifts" to "getting big" on my second cycle now, because I'm not afraid to hit the gym and fucking eat, and also because I'm dropping a-bombs as a frontload to a healthy 600 test/400 deca.

>>34997668
AI to prevent bitch tits and other bad estro sides, HCG to prep your balls to restart HPTA production as soon as the exo test clears. HPTA shutdown clears out your LH sensitivity, and to bring that sensitivity back you need a steady low dose of HCG for a few weeks.

>>34997716
oh yeah, I did what you should never do and basically killed my gym sessions after I started PCT. in fact, I got so busy before graduation after that semester, and then graduated and moved somewhere without a gym, that I ended up not lifting weights at all for over two and a half years after finishing cycle. however, I can say one of the cool things about my life post-cycle is that my gains really started flying back when I began to eat big and hit the gym again, to the point where I looked about as good as I did at the end of my cycle (without bloat, of course) and a lot of my lifts went right back up, all linear every time I hit the gym.

I'm struggling to keep my hair.

Are there any steroids/PEDs that won't exacerbate my hairloss?

>>34997716
i agree with AI however i would use armidex instead, i dont really see point using HCG imo

>>34997727
test and var both carry risks of hair loss, so you're out of luck. you can try a DHT blocker

>>34997741
I am not an expert in AIs, but it's my understanding that all AIs serve the same function versus SERMs. HCG is important though, aside from the scariness of having your balls inert at the end of your cycle with no natty test production going on, there have been many findings showing that HCG is the best way to jumpstart your PCT and get your natural test production back in order. if your HPTA has been shutdown due to exogenous hormones, why would you expect it to quickly find its way back to normal without other exogenous hormones?

>>34997526
why do you recommend a serm over ai?
sure higher estro will lead to more gains but high estro sides are no joke; acne, water retention, high blood pressure, sugar cravings, insomnia, lethargy, no libido, fucked up emotions etc

overheard some skinnyfat clowns in the gym talking about being on anavar only, gave me a good chuckle

i'm feeling some low estro sides on 0.25mg adex EOD, running 500mg test e/wk. got bloods this week, estro was 11 (ref <15), before cycle it was 10. could i lower to E3D or will adex half life bring up some rebound issues?

>>34997834
Iktfb there's some of those in my gym

>>34997869
Go straight to e3d you'll be fine

>>34997889
alright, thanks. but isn't the half life like 46 hours? that's not gonna be a problem?

>>34993076
Guy in that pic would've looked good had he not got a faggy hipster haircut and beard as well

>>34997834
>>34997889
like maybe they want to get strong but not big you know
or they're just faggots who are afraid of shoving pins in their asses

>>34997938
you could lower the dose a bit if you're worried

roughly whats the equivalent of 12.5mg aromasin in arimdex?

>>34997991
>they're just faggots who are afraid of shoving pins in their asses
Yeah, I thinks it's this one.

>mfw
Been standing in my bathroom for 20minutes now because I don't want to put the heating on and the lights in here get hot. Life in England. We're full of pakis anyway, why don't we all just migrate to pakiland, at least the weather is warm

today at the gym

>roid bro with dyel faggot in the gym
>dyel faggot telling me that "back in the day" people didnt need to roid because they ate better food and where real men
>i tell dyel faggot he is delusional
>we have a big arguement about it

wtf

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typical example of these "real men that didnt need to roid"

the people telling the stories actually believe these guys were clean

>>34998022
back in the day you could get drol like candy
roids have progressed actually extremely slowly in the past 30 to 50 years. some of the most favored shit today was first put to market in the 50s and 60s. but hey, back in those days they didn't stack grams of tren on top of insulin and HGH, so there's that.

Noob question here,
Which compounds tend to give people capped delts?
Not really planning on taking anything until next year once i get my research done, but I'd personally love to know

the skin on my feet have started peeling for the first time ever after starting mk-0677
any reason why?

>>34998052
tren and eq

>>34998052
anything that builds mass plus loads of food and shoulder work, that's the gist of it.
for big fat delts, I'd say drol, sdrol, dbol, test, deca, halo, GH are among the big ones

>>34998043
i always tell these fools that "back in the day" people where roided to the eye balls with orals, to the point the eyes were yellow

they dont wana believe me and just shaking my head

>>34998039
>The 70s
>Anyone clean in Weightlifting

this is the only weightlifter that made it and that i believe is very close to actually being natural

http://www.polska-sztanga.pl/modules.php?name=News&file=print&sid=15214

he's from my country, i met him several times in person

>>34998043
>>34998069
for the curious:
tren: early 1980s
drol: 1960
dbol: 1960s
halo: 1950s
deca: 1960
test (synthetic): 1930s

so yeah, they "ate big"

>>34998080
>implying he didn't run anavar and other strength-centric shit

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>>34998093
yeah i just dont know for sure

i still find it hard to believe someone that small can lift that heavy

>>34993076
>Will I be ruining my naturally low test production for the rest of my life?
Possibly. On 350ng/dl you can do as good as any other natty. It doesn't make that much of a difference unless it's out of physiological range.

>>34998098
that's the benefit of strength-building steroids, they give you tight, functional muscle without making you big, perfect for the professional athlete, especially one trying to make a manlet weight class. not every roid is dbol.

Note to homebrewers: Don't cheap out on your syringe gun (is that the right name)?

I picked up the cheapest one because whats the difference. Sure enough towards the very end of filling my 20 ml vial the gun got bent, syringe shot forward and 20 ml vial filled with test e shattered.

prostitute called me this morning

said she wants me to come and fuck her without a condom (for money of course)

i said i feel sad today i'm not coming

life is mostly sadness and poverty and working for coins

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natural?

i had my doubts before

just fucked plastic pussy

sometimes i wonder how butt plugs would feel inside my anus

might call prostitute back

Can anyone direct me to a good "powerbuilding' or just a simple hypertrophy routine which could be tailored to use more of a strength approach to lower body instead of size? I love squatting and deadlifting but my lower body is much more superior to my upper body. I feel like my legs are too big and want to make my upper body catch up to them but I still want to do squat and deadlifts.

>>34998175
fuck you fake jm

>>34998181
get a load of this faggot.....

do you guys shave your bodyhair?
i just shaved my legs for the first time and im not sure if i like it or not.. muscles are a lot more visible but i feel less masculine

considering trimming/shaving my stomach and chest hairs too

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>>34998203
Waxing is the way to go most of the time, unless you enjoy ingrowns and having to shave your whole body every 2-3 days.

Only thing worth shaving is armpits. Chest/legs is wax all the way.

>>34998203
no, im not a cyclist, woman, or homosexual.

>>34992856
Is this real or bunk? https://www.a1supplements.com/primeval-labs-super-lgd
Is there any way I can tell, and is 5mg enough? DO I take it pre or post workout?

>>34998213
you can still get ingrown hairs from waxing breh

just tried putting a finger up there

felt pretty good. what are the best plugs?

>>34997287
Cycle why is his carbs so low? I struggle with low carbs

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mirin roelly's cousins

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>>34998222
No where near as easily as with shaving. If you shave you have to look after your skin and exfoliate permanently due to how often you have to shave.

Waxing is a now and again thing where you have to be careful.

>>34997287
Cycle can i get your programs sour e code? So i can do it whenever i lose a couple pounds

>>34998216
>>34998222
>>34998226

FAKE JM PLZ

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>>34998224
come at me weakling

>>34998213
oh i didnt actually shave to the skin i used a beard trimmer so the hairs are just really short now..

shaving armpits seems girly as fuck imo but maybe its a cultural thing
plus my bis are hairy so it would look wierd unless i shaved them too

i had a dream that i had a bbc last night

woke up in extreme disappointment

felt dent

cried

>>34994729
bump
someone pls answer
google a shit

>>34998232
>If you shave you have to look after your skin and exfoliate permanently due to how often you have to shave.
No I don't, I'm not gay dude... I just moisturize the area before breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

>>34998224

mmmm.

this pic.

Hello, my friend. We meet again.

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>>34998240
Being smooth all around your body and suddenly having armpit hair would be strange.

Beach culture incites metrosexuality, yes.

But if you guys think that girls who are very into looking after hygiene like extremely hairy men you're going to be in for a surprise most of the time.

They will always appreciate someone who looks groomed.

Plus, waxing takes 2%bf off you for free visually.

>>34998218
plz awnser

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HOLY DAMN

roelly's daughterr is gonna be a fine woman when she grows up

mirin

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>>34998259

>he thinks women like hairless manchildren

are you literally trolling ?

seems like you're either trolling or virgin af!!!

>>34998216

>cyclist and homosexual both mentioned

That was redundant as fuck

competitive bike rider here btw

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>>34998272
I know. Just look at all those hairy male models. They're everywhere.

Good thing we cleared that up.

>>34998272
canary is getting chest implants brah

nigga gay

also

prostitue called again

told me im hot

life of kings

>>34998259
>Being smooth all around your body and suddenly having armpit hair would be strange.
Do you shave your armpits breh?

>>34998218
Shameful self bump...

>>34998216
this is /fraud/, everyone here is either on the bicycle or wants to be

>>34998278
nigga there are hairy models all over the place, fuck you talking about?
male models i mean
>>34998288
stfu nigga this is a roid thread nobody give a fuck about your lgd fagit

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>>34998284
Laser hair removal for legs, so nothing grows there.
Wax chest and tummy.
Shave armpits.

Only hair I have is on my head, or at times some trimmed pubes at the most.

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>>34998278
>implying reality mirrors a meme profession
you don't actually think women don't like a bit of hair do you?

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>>34998292
Are you pulling a Slut on me or do you seriously believe the amount of hairy male models is anywhere near the amount of groomed ones.

shemale trolling nignogs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK89GxZc20A

>>34998295
youre as gay as your brother
>>34998306
maybe youre looking at gay models?

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>>34998300
I think you don't get it.

Some women like some hair. But they'll never dislike no hair.

Meanwhile, a lot of women like no hair, and are absolutely disgusted with hair.

Unless we're chasing JM tier females, groomed men absolutely destroy hairy ones overall.

When Trannies Go Crazy - Fight Compilation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxbbmP_08Hk

>>34998295
Seems odd if you do that over here. Maybe it's more accepted over there. I shaved my legs once, because i thought my calves would look bigger, but gf said it looked gay.

I think shaving your legs and armpits is still taboo. Chest hair, back hair etc etc. must go. Only weird girls like that

>Only hair I have is on my head
kek'd

>>34998314
what women are "absolutely disgusted" with hair?
fucking none of them

ill agree that there are more male models with hairless chests, but that doesn't really mean much.

on tinder like 20% of grills in their bio say they love beards. literally never once seen one that says the opposite. come at me.

>>34998314
good point :)

>>34998338
>listening to what a women wants
May work in Turkey mate, but it doesn't apply over here in the 1st world

>>34998334
yeah dude. aint no merican girls that wouldnt think it was weird af for a man to be totally hairless.
canary is really taking the whole otter mode thing all the way.

>>34998332
this is absolute madness, some of those transvestites must be on halotestin

>>34998357
shut up cheeky you dumb mother fucker
gonna have people quoting me in turkish again and ill have no idea wtf theyre talking about. have to get lama in here to translate.

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The fuck.

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>>34998338
>fucking none of them
Maybe in Murica where being a ball of fat is widely accepted and women can be confused with farm animals.

How does male models mostly shaving not mean much. It's quite literally the overall standard of beauty is hairless.

>on tinder like 20% of grills in their bio say they love beards
How do beards not qualify as part of "hair on your head"

We're talking about body here.

Women who actually look after themselves will expect just as much of you.

>>34998334
Having a hairless upper body and hairy lower body sounds weird.

At the same time, all this waxing/shaving goes together with tanning/being tanned, which I think we can all agree on also being part of the widely accepted overall standard of male beauty.

>>34998332
good post from a great poster.

>>34998377
What country do you live in?

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>>34998390
Spain, Canary Islands

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>>34998395
that's meme af

>>34998377
im not sure if shit is that much different there where men walk around like hairless ladyboys, or its just your autism making you think thats the norm.

>>34998373
ucu yalamak lütfen