Can you "make it" if you stay natty?

natty limit is most aesthetic, so yes .

>>34977780
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If you have body dysmorphia, this may not apply.

>>34977780
This. Passed the natty limit most people ask why? The only people who disagree have muscular dysmorphia and are in denial.

>>34977834
leaving humanity behind

>>34977780
This.

Times a million. Most "aesthetics crew" cheating frauds are just impatient faggots.

I will say this: you can never really have the lauded 3d photoshop look without handing in your natty card. But now I'm at a point where I find that look utterly revolting.

>>34977806
>>34977834
>>34977841
This may not apply to people with really low test levels or shitty genetics.
Still, I'd at first reach my personal natty limit and then consider on hopping on test or not.
Genetics are no excuse to roid though.

>>34977722
what is natty???

>>34977853
you're mom is :^)

>>34977846
I'm not sure if I'm retarded and misunderstanding you, are you saying low test faggots would or wouldn't roid?

>>34977950
I am saying that if I was a lowtest faggot and couldnt gain any size or strength with perfekt training and food I'd consider to roid, because why the fuck not.
I am not a native english speaker, so you probably aren't retarded, lel.

>>34977950
He's saying people with low test or shit genetics have lower natty ceilings and might have to juice just to reach what other people reach through "hard work."

The question is
> how do I know when I reach my natty limit?

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>>34977722
Why does Ariana look whiter now that she's older?

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>>34977780
>implying

>>34978067
You train smart, take care of your nutrition and get good sleep and rest days long enough until you cant progress further.