/roids/

>>34972907
Here we go

First for how to stop being thirsty and now how to stay chill when bad stuff happens.

in for getting bullied by mastest.

>>34972932
>how to stay chill

Literally why? If I'm having a bad day I make sure it's everyone's problem. If that necessitates me punching a hole or five in the wall then so be it.

>>34972932
Certain things are worth getting excited/upset about, and others aren't. As time passes you get better at realizing which is which.

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>>34972934
>mastest is probably the only person on this board who has managed to leave humanity behind. he didn't even have to take any scoops to do it either
only 3, as far i could remember.

Did take two scoops on those natty pics breh. People still think it;'s a troll. It's still a myserty.

troll or not to troll....

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>>34972944
Sounds like somebody needs to up their ai.

>>34972976
fuck that vascularity.

>tfw will never happen bc natty

>>34972862
>why you think I would care what you have to say
Then you should ignore me, instead of responding all the time.

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>>34972944
Rev up those rage stories /fraud/

does hgh cause any shutdowns? If you inject it solo. Some guy wants me to order hgh for him, cuz he wants to grow a little bit more, will this even work? He's 18 atm, his bone shit might be closed already, just want some input on this

in for our on the beat busting criminal scum

>>34973001
irrc, growth plates don't usually close completely till early 20s. But errybody's different.

WHO VIDYA HERE?
POST WHAT COMPOUNDS ARE YOU RUNNING AND WHAT GAME ARE YOU PLAYING?

>>34972907
test 500wk
super dmz 2.0
bros.....
ill literally fuck anything, so fucking god dam pissing horny. god have mercy on the callus of my hand

>>34973023
how about the rest? will it shut down anything? will he need a pct? will it even make him grow anything that makes it worth spending money on this shit, granted his growth plates aren't closed

>>34973032
test and oral

disgaea: hour of darkness
league of legends sometimes
i play weights and needles mostly

>>34972987
fat distribution, thin skin, low sodium, lots of water.

laying in the sun for an hour. Refeed day. low bodyfat

test only.
Starcraft 2: legacy of the void(who wants 1v1?)

>>34972995

>be out clubbing
>suddenly fat guy in my face yelling
>says I'm talking shit about him
>never seen him in my life
>tell him he must have the wrong guy cuz I have no clue who he is
>he continues to yell and is trying to goad me in to fighting
>turn 360lumens and walk away
>I walk off and get another drink
>friends tell me I should have punched him
>shrug, I like not being in jail

Such rage and aggression

>lift
>eat
>sleep
>video games/uni/work
is there any room for friends, family or love in a /fraud/ life?

How the fuck did mass test leave humanity behind?

His mass is a joke considering he roids.

>>34973059
Yeah drop the video games

>>34973059
i play the vidya, family, gf, college and i doesnt afraid of anything.
sneek some drinkin in sometimes (holidays)

i love my life, never been so positive, energetic and well rested in my life (thx test).

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>>34973059
I do the same as you + gf

>>34973065
don't activate my body dysmorphia. It really bothers me.

>>34973059
Na, just do all those things and get a waifu

>>34973092
this.

comments still ring in my head from 5 years ago. maybe even longer. pushes me to take risks with my health, but it is worth it, its always worth it.

>>34973120
Why let other people impact your life so efforletlessly?

>>34973165
because i am the alpha male, i always view myself as such. Remarks about being incompetent force a negative response, always.

crazy? maybe. Accurate? still maybe.

>>34973191
If you were really alpha would people's comments affect you this much?
Wouldn't you just give zero fucks?

Chances are whatever people are talking shit about isn't even a big deal or even exist.
People love to try and bring others down

>>34973120
Lucky fuck. I got nothing but positive re-enforcement when I was a skellington, and weird passive aggressive shit talking the closer I get to making it.

Where is yolo qt?

>>34973230
i pretend they dont affect me, i always pretend lifting isnt a big deal to me. But they are used as motivation really.

these are the things i keep in the vault not on the sleeve.

>>34973304
this, the lack of girl pics in this thread is staggering.

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>>34973339
not filling the void yourself.

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>>34973339
I don't got many qt gril pics since I'm at work.

I could post a pic of myself in a dress if that helps.

>>34973404
>tfw into emo/alt girls

Stop posting pics of girls or you'll get banned for a month. The homo mods said so!

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>>34973191

The lion does not concern himself with the opinions of sheep.

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>>34973404
Love the emo/scene look still
Such qts

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4 months into bulk.
300lb bench edition.

>>34973563
See, manlet, if you posted shit like this more often, nobody would care that you're half potato.

>>34973054

Race?

>>34973592
looking pretty avg natty desu
not even trying to be mean

>>34973595
Too bad I have fuck all pics

>>34973592
Still wearing those hats
Looking good man

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>little old lady approaches with plate full of cookies
>bulking so I can actually eat cookies.

Fuck yes bulking feels.

>>34973592
Noice, what's your weight up to?

>>34973592
Cal surplus for those 4 months?
Newfag here, trying to establish cause and effect.

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>>34973693
>not a clean bulk

>confront girl that has boyfriend
>"anon I was thinking about you, I don't want to lose you"
Jesus christ man, I don't want to feel things for people anymore.

>>34972907
Should I go out tonight and try to bang sluts?

0, 1, 5, or 9 is no

>>34973703
Anywhere between 4k and 5k.

>>34973693
Weighed in right after the PR today at 219.

500mg test
125mg NPP
100mg winny

>>34973751
Should I go out tonight and just drink and be merry?

0, 1, 5 or 9 is no

>>34973751
>>34973759
>based /fraud/ gods trying to protect my gains

0, 1, 5, or 9 and I stay right here eating protein until I fall asleep.

>>34973751
>>34973759
Rekt

Stay home and wank and lift

>>34973751
>implying you rolled a bad number
>implying staying at home and playing vidya is bad
luck has blessed you my friend

>>34973708
>on a cut
>captcha says "select all of the cookies"
>fuckmylife.wav
>keked by captcha

>>34973788
>doing psmf
>captcha is full of burgers
holy shit they really need to change this for /fit/

>>34973788
They get me every time the cookies and cake ones
Why is sugar so fucking good
Whatever being thick solid and tight is better

>>34973800
3rd day of psmf. dying.

what ur diet lad?

>>34973708
I fell so far off the wagon, I can't even here the sound of hooves.

>Gonna wash down these cookies with carbonated corn syrup.

>>34973825
tuna and eggs white.
Broccoli is the worst part of psmf tho.

>>34973841
I love broccoli.

If I cover it in enough cheese it becomes bulking food.

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http://www.ceretropic.com/lgd-4033-solution/

Should I?

Taking a break from roids and this seems like the next best thing.

Also wanna convince some family members to try...chemical aid, so to speak. This will sound better to their ears since it is not roids.

>>34973841
i'm not eating any vegies, i hate them. do you have to eat them?

mine is 2 whole eggs, tuna and chicken breast

I benched 315 today. Shoulders are growing.

I'm weighing in at 195 bw. 15% bf

You don't need to abuse roids to make gains

>>34973873
>>34973907
my secret with broccoli is by cutting it into tiny pieces and just smashing it into another food, also drinking water.
I think I'm at the point where I don't feel the shit taste.

>>34973923
I like broccoli I don't mind the taste, am I freak.

Is it possible to fuck up injecting aside from injecting into a vein, like injecting into fat or pushing the needle in too deep/not far enough?

>>34973993
You are fucked up m8.
At least in a good way since broccoli is TOP food.

>>34973592
>roiding for this
HAHAHAHAHAA

>>34974035
why do people make fun of him?

>>34974044
Dunno swimbra is usually shreds. And looks pretty good

>>34974044
cuz he looks like shit while acting like he's the hottest shit around

fucking hilarious looking at him making fun of himself

>>34974054
He looks fine
It's winter he just has a bulk layer going

>>34973907
spinach and chard > broccoli

most of my meals are just chicken, tuna or pork on top of greens with greek yogurt dressing, maybe some sunflower seeds and sriracha. shits delicious and pretty clean

>>34973919
of course you dont.
more roids more gains.
you dont need steroids at all to make gains, plenty of people bench over 300 natty

McDonald's for lunch [jimmies rustle]

Inside McDonald's
Body built dude walks in with his kid as I walk out
He looks me up and down then nods to me
Nod back

Bodybuilt dad approves of the Manlet look

>>34974001
not really.
injecting into fat doesnt hurt anything.
you can hit a nerve or get close and itll hurt

i only use 1/2" pins nowadays, Im prettty lean and big so i feel like its plenty deep but ive used up to 1.5"

>>34974178
I eat mcdonalds like 3x a week when trying to bulk up.

double cheeseburgers no bread, cheapest cals around.

one time i was at mcd's and some dude starts talking to me and pulls out his phone and is showing me contest pics from like the 90s.

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>>34974178
>mcdonald
>not burger king

>>34974178
Pls stop posting
Don't you have friends to tell your shitty stories to?

>>34974182
tfw when you can feel yourself getting closer to a nerve. weirdest feeling ever. I hit one in my quad a while back and my whole leg jumped lol. got my favorite spots on lock now

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>>34974200
>burger King

>>34974195
are cheat meals a good way to bulk?
Fuck people here buy snacks every friday and I always avoid them, now I'm tempted.

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>>34974212
Listen fag:
grandma burgers > burger king > mcdonalds

>>34974210
yeah, theres a big one in your quad i hit that shit once and pulled the pin out and threw it, hurt so fucking bad.

>>34974168

Except for the fact there's several trips here who are on grams more of gear and still can't bench 300

>>34974216
calories are a good way to bulk.

i dont bulk/cut too hard i just up cals to get over strength goals n shit then lower cals to slowly cut a little. i never get below 10% usually cause i dont give a fuck and weighing shit and dieting is geh.

double cheeseburgers with no bun are pretty decent from a macro standpoint, and cheap as fuck, and tasty

>>34974216
no,
best rule iv ever learned:
bulking - if its non-processed or enriched and generally organic, eat as much as you want. If you are bulking with enhanced foods be sure to watch serving sizes and portions, it adds up quickly (usually with sat fats or grain sugars, i find these to be shitty anabolic friends [still friends tho])

>>34974195
I actually dislike McDonald's a lot
Can only eat it once a week without feeling really ill afterwards

>>34974200
>yfw Burger King is called hungry jacks in kangarooland
>yfw it's the worst fast food in the country

>>34974205
[rustle]

>>34974210
I've only jabbed a nerve once and it was weird as fuck
I still can't tell when I'm near them though

>>34974245
really?

I was off gear for over a year and never couldnt bench 3 plates.

then again im 32 and have been lifting for a while

>>34974245
You following me around, brah?

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>>34974256
>yfw Burger King is called hungry jacks in kangarooland
This can't be real

>>34974248
>>34974253
I'm bulking with a lot of milk, guess it's better.

>>34974241
>>34974256
yeah i can "echo locate", in a sense, nerves based on pain feedback in a direction. only in the quad. then again i only do glutes and quads. never pinned anything after i found my go to spots

>>34974278
thats fine i suppose, that kind of a special case. Its very organic and natural however some milks can be enriched and enhanced way beyond the "necessary" amount.
am i making any sense?

>>34974268
Dead serious
There was already a business in Aus called Burger King and they refused to sell the rights to the name because fuck America haha

>>34974283
I sort of know what you mean
I've had a few times when I've got the pin half way in and suddenly feel pain and can kind of just tell it will hurt more soon so I pull out and try a new site
Possibly going near nerves?

>>34974256
Was it your plan to get caught shitposting?

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>tfw failed 3plate bench today

At least I know what I did wrong

>>34974321
sorry mate.

the first time i did 3plate bench i was on methylstenbolone, serious fucking strength gains m8. not a troll, i love that shit

>>34973883
Halp with this pls

Is LGD-4033 really as effective as I have heard (2-4% fat reduction and 8-15 pounds of lean mass in a month)?

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>>34974303

Of course

>>34974340
no, thats best case scenario.

more like 5-10lbs 1-2% bf rdx in 8 weeks. remember increase in lbm will reduce you bf, so in some cases if your just gaining lbm, you can reduce your bf.

but lgd is legit, its supposed to be used for between cycles, not really a standalone/one time thing deal. sry m8

>>34974340
>Is LGD-4033

i never got these stupid peptides.
theres always new ones and noone really knows the negative effects of them.

just stick with tried and true gear

>>34974342
If you take that trip off will you die?

>>34974363
But it is better than natty and pro-hormones right?

Maybe if I tell him to keep using Nova X or something and also use this one, it could help him with his goals.

>>34974384
I will. Maybe I will use both. But these is not really for me, but rather for a cousin and an uncle that refuse to let go their natty cards.

>>34974332
I just brought it down too quickly, couldn't get the bounce out of the bottom. I'll get it in a week or two no problem.

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Honest opinion guys, How would I go about getting the Muscle mass of someone like bradley martyn. What Cycle and Does he Just Perma blast? Or something.. I'm currently on my first cycle and wanting to take a 3month break after the 12 weeks.

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>>34974409

It would be incredibly painful

>>34974447
Your a really small, acne-riddled guy...

>>34974417
yeah but peptides aren't natty at all

why use both, run the risk of weird shit like enlarged heart and prostate problems.

just run a little test maybe one other compound and get 10x the gains, relatively safely

>>34974439
these questions are funny.

theres no set routine to look like someone,

train heavy, eat a ton of protein, limit calories to determine leanness and add gear as needed

everyone is genetically different and will look different but the recipe to gaining muscle is the same as always

>>34974439
>How would I go about getting the Muscle mass of someone like bradley martyn.
You dont.

That kind of physique isn't something achievable for the casual lifter even with gear.

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>>34974451

For you

>>34974462
Because the steroid stigma is strong with these guys.

That is why I will lead them through a path of less resistance and then make the reveal that a simple test cycle is safer.

>>34974495
but.. thats like female logic

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>>34974462
>why use both

To leave humanity behind

>>34974581
most pro bb'ers dont use peptides

cept a ton of hgh if you wanna include that

>>34974518
So is the idea of "oooh this could maybe hurt me but the news talks shit about it so it must be terrible" attitude that most natties have

>>34974607
yes, and we realize that logic is fukd

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>>34974588
>most pro bb'ers dont use peptides

Thats not true at all though. Ive seen multiple bb'ers say they use peptides. Some say they even prefer peptides to hgh because you can get the same results as as a few iu's of gh a day for a fraction of the cost.

>>34974620
And we also realize that sometimes you have to use it in order to red pill

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>>34974637
Back in Arnold's day roids were unknown like peptides. Didn't stop the them from experimenting.

>>34972907
Do they still make new steroids to test them I mean errr enhance your gains?

>>34974661
When I told my missus I was on gear she thought I was really against steroids cuz every time people were "amazed" at transformations like Chris Pratt I laugh and say it's steroids and people are idiots.
Once you make it clear that every built person they look up to is on gear their opinion flips fast

>>34974731
Medicine is always pushing forwards

>>34974637
oh,
i knew 2 that i used to chill with occasionally and they 1. didnt care price because they were sponsored by ugls
2. didnt do anything but the usual, test tren mast var dbol eq etc
high dose hgh really sets apart really big guys and pros

>>34974731
tren is pretty new.
not too long ago people were seperating it out of finapellets and homebrewing

>>34974699
im never going to be pro though,
id rather not be a guinea pig and just use gear with proven track record and sides

>>34974844
So do that and don't question people who don't mind trying the new stuff

>>34974855
>don't question people

why would i not question people's motives who have differing opinions than my own.

how to get bloodworks (test specifically) done in Canada? What to say to the doc

cheers

>>34974891
in the US you can just go to an independent lab and get an endocrinology test or whatever

i just googled it and theres blood test labs in canada

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>>34974820
>high dose insulin really sets apart really big guys and pros

Fixed it for ya lel.

Ive talked to one guy and he says he prefers peptides because hgh gives him crippling carpel tunnel.

Hgh is more effective especially at higher doses but even sponsored guys arent getting 80k plus a year in free gh at least not without doing some highly questionable shit.

I dunno even guys like Cutler and Heath have fridges full of peptides so Id still say theyre pretty common with the pro's.

>>34974699
>Back in Arnold's day roids were unknown like peptides. Didn't stop the them from experimenting.

You mean Eugene Sandow's days

>>34974935
true,

honestly i didnt mention insulin for the safety of fucktards on /fit/

insulin + gh is a whole different game

>>34974934

going to a private lab is like 250-300 minimum.

>>34974866
>why use both

Because they want to. Why question that an anonymous person on the Internet wants to potentially improve or fuck up their own body?
Let them do it and don't let it affect your life

>>34974891
>"Hey guy can I have some blood test?"
>"Sure buddy, we do it for free in the commonwealth!"
>"Thanks friend!"

Now you have blood test

>>34974935
Fuck ever fucking with insulin

>>34974955
in canada or the US...
US is only around $100

>>34974957
this is a board to discuss fitness and steroid use..
discuss, as in question other peoples opinions and maybe learn some info or perspective

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>>34974957
Kek I keeping eyeing these novo pens that Im debating on adding to my next pharma order. I plan on going pro eventually so its only a matter of time before I hop on the slin train anyways.

I'm 29 year old thinking about getting on a bicycle or perhaps TRT. Is there a minimum lifts requirement before I start? Or bodyfat% or something?

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>>34975027
You can start when you want but I always recommend having at least a 1000lb total and being under 12% bf. By the time you reach that point you should have a basic concept of diet and training.

what is lex fitness's cycle?

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>>34975061
thanks

>>34975014
its fine if you're responsible..
but dyel fags stealing thier grandmas slin and slipping into a coma..

like the fucks on here that use dnp at 170lbs and 16% bodyfat

except slin is useful and dnp is retarded

>>34975061
this

>>34975061

i think i got some bunk or underdosed tren.. fuckin suck.

4 weeks in on 600tren, 600mast and 350 test/week

little strength gains beyond the increased training, no tren sides, only seeing more vascualarity and leanness.. assuming its the mast

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>>34973441
tfw recently started talking to a qt girl with purple hair

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>>34972976
lmao, riiiiiight.

>>34975169
>Chest tat
why would you do this my man?

>>34975169
i wish i had a small waist like that.

trying to get absurd shoulders so my waist looks smaller in comparison but its like, i already cant find clothes that fit

>>34975146
Trying real hard there.

>>34975182
dont worry about what i do. focus on you my man.
im happy

>>34975183
just do it and wear L or XL clothes. thats what i do, then when i take off my shirt people be like damn,

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>>34974866
You're basically saying peptides are a complete unknown which isn't true. These products came out of reputable research labs and are going through various clinical trials. A lot of these are being developed as safer alternatives to regular hormones.

You can read up on existing research to make an informed decision. You can get regular bloodwork to monitor health markers and cycle compounds. You can stick to reasonable dosages and combine them with the staples.

But you're not adding anything to the discussion by just saying it's new and therefore dangerous.

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>>34975082
NP

>>34975087
I was think just 10iu post but even that scares me. Agreed that dnp is retarded. Kek people should never be fat enough to need it especially if theyre using steroids.

>>34975112
Yeah after 4 weeks you should be able to tell you're on tren.

Fuck today I broke my toe, got all fucking pissed off about it, then went and pulled 655 for a pr tonight. I blame tren for this kek. Really though my toe fucking hurts and Im probably borderline retarded.

Who's tren btw?

>>34975201
i'm only 5'10"
xl is often like a dress
mostly coats and such, yanno theyre so tight in the armpits you cant move.
nvm dress shirts.

>>34975204
>reputable research labs

i dont know about this, a lot of the time.
i did graphic design work for a "lab"

and no just discussing, wondering why people would not just do a little more gear,
throw in another compound.

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>>34975169

OH GOD ITS OVERCOCK I HADN'T SEEN YOU IN TWO YEARS AT LEAST

OVERCOCK
OVERCOCK
OVERCOCK

Your son is the villian and you must kill him or nuke the commonwealth, nigger mod.

>>34975213
dbol alone is not the way to go.

injecting is much safer,
dbol will shut down your test production
also liver etc.

dont be a pussy

>>34975220
go to express and get some slim fits. thats what i do, or banana republic. shit fits good.

>>34974967
Pto ably helps if you word your questions to not be rhetorical attacks and instead questions

>>34975014
It's scary shit to me
The idea of having to plan exactly when you eat and what timed perfectly, the possible side effects etc

>>34975169
Half the people who talk shit forget people like this exist kek

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>>34975213

>>34975214
>I was think just 10iu post but even that scares me
yeah you just have to add carbs, i mean its not a big deal theres a million regimens online.

and yeah dnp does what diet will do while fucking you up


i know im dissapointed, have run tren before, its great but kills my cardio so its been a year or two.

never run mast was like, fuck this is gonna be diesel, tren with mast on top..
sucks, past week trying to convince myself its in my head but no raised body temp..
no cough, i injected just tren, 3ml today fast and no taste no anything, and i heated a little of it, still a super light color..

>>34975191
rude, anon.
for a hand holdless virgin that is a lot for me, okay.

>>34975255
nope, used to love the express,
now, dont fit at all, sucks.
as i was outgrowing all my express shirts i ripped like 3,, i cant get em on now.


my arms are 18-18.5"
i'm wide

>>34975265
just hide it.
run test e or cyp, only need to inject 2x a week, bring it in shower with you, pin when you get out.

>>34975297
my arms were 20" and express/banana republic still fit. I shop at like JCpenny and TJ maxx now because cheap as fuck and good clothes.

always buy L or XL. dont wanna be the guy everyone says their shirt is too tight. people laugh at that shit they dont mire. besides jocky dudes and trash bag women.

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>>34975276
You will only get tren cough if you hit a vein. I havent had tren cough my last two blasts with it.

The tren-e I have right now is almost as light as the same labs test-p and its legit. First thing I always notice is night sweats and insomnia.

Id give it one more week then I talk to whoever you bought it from. Most of the time sources will replace it at least if theyre not total cocks.

>>34975311
>hide it.

>pinning in a humid room when youre wet...

cant be serious..
thats just asking for MRSA or staph.

dude just make a hide away to put your shit in, and lock your room for 15 minutes to pin.

>>34975324
oh yeah,, no fuckin shmediums for me..

i think xl express are too long for me, idk, i used to work in an office and had all express shirts and a few banana republic, those were actually my go to stores.
i think a lot of it is back/ shoulder width. shit cuts into armpits so i cnat move.
banana republic pants mostly. only thing that annoys the fuck out of me about only being 5'10" is that

>>34975341
>First thing I always notice is night sweats and insomnia.

yeah thats the prob, 0 tren sides, you know you can feel it when you'e on tren, i dont.
and if i pin over 2ml super quick i can usually make myself get a cough, or at least a little taste in my mouth.
ive run a couple diff labs and homebrew.

im hoping they'll be cool, we will see.

>>34975358
im 6'3" which is even more annoying. try finding 32"x36" pants in any of those stores... they dont even make that shit..

levi's all the way. Best jeans, last forever.

they are long yes, but meant to be tucked in, which is why theyre long.
start tailoring your clothes to fit then. its what i started doing. after a while.

if you find a good tailor to do alterations its like 10-11$ to tailor shirts.
The one on base for me is only 4$ a shirt.

>>34975381
how the fuck do you wear 32 waist, do you not work out legs at all?

>>34975381
>levi's all the way. Best jeans, last forever.
exactly. i used to have a ton of expensive jeans, rock and republic and shit. eventually legs and ass dont fit in em.

and yeah it is the arms, either shirts are ridic tight, or the arms are long as fuck
coats and shit too, fuckin blows

>>34975395
>how the fuck do you wear 32 waist
i was just complaining that i have a big waist, well hips, just genetically.
and i wear a 34.

>>34975395
its what fits my waist and of course i do. which is why i buy longer legs. loose/relaxed fit jeans are the shit.

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>>34975416
shit i used to have a 28" waist

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>>34975346
>lock your room for 15 minutes to pin.

This. If you have enough privacy to fap, you have enough privacy to pin.

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>>34975433

>overcock

c'mon bro, really? what is that tattoo lmao?

>>34975461
whatchu got against chest tats

>>34975433
def jealous,
end of the day idgaf my proportions just suck, 5'10"
longer legs, shorter torso, semi wide hips.

i mean i'm 210 now, cut down from 230 but id look ridic if i had smaller hips

>>34975146
damn, this guy getting some serious action.

keep us posted. report back once you're married.

>>34972907
does /fraud/ have a sticky? like baby's first cycle?

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>>34975473
animu edition

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>>34975461
I think it says overcome. Would look better with a bald eagle with crossed ak47s underneath desu senpai

>>34975587
>>34975628
Google is your friend
Do people not fucking know what Google is anymore?
If you are asking this board you are not ready

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Who up in here right now?

gril just said she would go out with me then texted me 2 hours later saying she changed her mind and didnt want to ruin our friendship reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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>>34975781
hi

My buddy was rambling at me in a drunken stupor about there being difference types of testosterone, and that depending on what you take you get a different body type. I haven't heard from him in a few days so I'll ask you guys. I'm pretty sure testosterone is just testosterone.

>>34975944
It's the ethers that are different which all alter the half-life of the test, but test is test >>34975906
Sup man

>>34975781
Just got here
>>34975944
Yep, just different esters

>>34975944
test is test, but the frequency of whatever you take ~can affect your body type. but that would be just chalked up to hormone fluctuations.
maybe he thinks all steroids are testosterone?

Page 4 no way.

I'm on my 4th cycle doing test e 500 12 weeks.
5'4
200lbs
20-25%bf

Anyways my last cycle I'd like all my growth to be to legs and arms but I don't wish to loose strength in other areas but don't wish much growth in other areas what do /fit/?

>>34976195
>5'4
>20-25% BF
>blasting

can you even lose strength while blasting?

>>34976195
>25% bf
you should fucking cut

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>>34976195

>>34976208
Blasting ?

>>34976213
I usually cut about 10-15lbs before next cycle

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>>34975838
She sounds like an idiot. Delete her number, forget about her.

How long to I have to roid before talking horse wife?

>>34976208
Maybe if someone was stupid strong/big already and then didn't lift during the blast?

So today I talked to a certain GAT sponsored athlete and asked how he turned arms into a strong point of his physique (because I need to bring up arms). Looks like I'm going to have a day just for arms and I'm going to do 20 sets for bis and 20 sets for tris.

On a side note I just ordered 2 bottles of mk677. I want to see how it works on my next bulk. I was reading the difference between 10mg and 25mg were minimal so I reckon I'll be using 12.5mg 5 on 2 off.

>>34976286
My lifts aren't the greatest but I'm usually naturally strong, on cycle I got super strength, then I have also manlet strength.

Bench 315-325
Squat 345
Deadlift 415
Ohp 195

>>34976287
over a month ago i was asking about cruising on deca solo with plans of maybe trying eq solo.
after 3 weeks i started feeling pretty bad, tired a lot, less libido, but no dick problems.
week 4 hit me the hardest imo. constantly tired, no motivation to lift. insane brain fog, i'm really forgetful and my motivation has gone down and i procrastinate even more.
after week 5 i've gotten kind of used to it. it's not as bad as week 4. haven't fapped in like 5 days, no problems getting off tho. brainfog and tiredness is real though.

anyways you said to try it out, and i probably won't do something like this again.(maybe tren, someday...) i've learned what it feels like to be a low test beta. some people can function just fine with no test in them, but not me. hopping back on test soon.

>>34976336
Lethargy is normal on deca. Its a great hormone for growing. Not so great for feeling good.

>>34976208
5' fucking 4" can you even reach door handles

>>34976356
Mother fucker I got stilts of course I can

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>>34976356
>tfw you'll never be able to eat a girl out standing straight.

feelsbadman.jpg

>>34976355
before i was on deca solo i was cruising on test and deca. so it was 3-4 weeks after dropping test when i started feeling it majorly.
another thing to add, i may be getting depression?

>>34976195
ManletGains?

>>34976400
Kek

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>>34976195
>5'4
>200lbs
>20-25% bf

I'm guessing you're a perfect circle or look like a midget sumo wrestler. Please post cb.

enanthate gives me chest flutters on the left just a little to the left of the heart and anxiety.

prop/ace doesn't.

Anyone else experience this?

Also test makes me watch anime.

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>>34976600

>Also test makes me watch anime.

>>34976600
Enanthate gives me poop stains on the left of my boxers. Just a little to the left of my asshole.

Prop/ace doesnt

Anyone else experience this?

Also test makes me blow nigger dicks

>>34976600
Are you retarded?

>>34976654
How would I be retarded?

Enanthate giving chest pain is a kind of commonish thing. Google it.

It's not in the heart, it just does it.

>>34976694
Because your post was retarded.

Is PSMF legit ?
Sounds like a horrible high risk high reward diet ...
Is IF combined with l carnitine and eca stack better ?

>>34976804
PSMF is what I would prefer over an ec stack

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>tfw pretty sure it's over with hipster chick
It was a good few weeks though, and she was so hot...
I kinda make it right brahs?

poo was light brown with dark red spot and been having lots of naps lately

been blasting test, tren, sd and accutane for 6 months
liver ded?

>>34976988
Yeah brah
You made it for a while there
Just lift the feelings away and you'll find a better qt

reporting in on shit that people don't care about:
it's been 3 injections and about ten days of pills. gains are steady, muscle development leveled out after the first explosive week (god knows how much of that shit is just bloat though). still waiting for deca/test levels to max out and level, that's more exciting for me than the oral frontload gains, hope to see some cool stuff even if it's only 400mg deca (albeit with a liberal 600mg test)

shit you guys might care about:
I've actually come to really appreciate anadrol. Everyone seems to talk about it like it's the ugly younger brother of dbol that only those IFBB freaks are into, but I've found it lovely. 100mg the first week was a little bit harsh on my acne, but had no other strong negative sides other than the obvious (bloating, sore ankles and back pumps, no endurance). Almost as soon as I dropped down to 50mg, like in less than 48 hours, my acne just cleared right up, so that's good news. I think I'll keep the frontload to 4-5 weeks although I have enough tabs for some 6 weeks at least, but if you're on at least your second cycle, have done dbol before, and want a real mass build, I highly suggest you try a round of 50mg a-bombs.

meanwhile in bitchville: cute big-tit chick I picked up from Tinder is still on-call, but seems to be stuck on her period for a bit. I convinced her to go on the pill, which is easy to do in this free country of mine, so it's just a matter of waiting. still chatting up a storm with a few other chicks, most of them are pretty docile but one seems to be into the flirt discussion, likes to call me sweet and likes it when I drop some compliments on her. I gotta chill though, because I think I'm giving her too much free positive attention and she's becoming a bit passive/disinterested, so I'll try to step it down a little until she finds some time to explore the d-zone with me.

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hows my back /fraud/?

>>34977308
calls people freaks yet you use the same things they do and then goes on to talk about your hoe chasing.

Its like do you guys know some of those tinder sluts literally go out on dates with other mens cum inside of them and then you go behind them and do god knows what.

What can I say. I guess its the roids rotting a hole in your brain

>>34977319
acceptable but not impressive, but maybe I'm really biased because my o-lift based routine gives me Banemode traps. if you want to be a big guy too, replace your deadlifts with a mix of clean pulls/snatch pulls and occasional RDL, you'll still get a lot of lower back and glute development but your upper back development will shoot right the fuck up and you'll be more explosive and athletic overall. it's also good as a way to stimulate test production when you're off-cycle.

>>34977341
I didn't call anyone a freak. I don't care what IFBB dudes do with their lives, but people talk about the shit that IFBB dudes do to try to distance themselves from the "hardcore" guys, like "oh, yeah, I've done tren and test, but I don't do halotestin and drol like THOSE guys." I'm just trying to make it clear that drol is pretty cool, don't knock it til you've tried it.

As to Tinder, I don't think I'll ever start a serious relationship with a girl I meet there, unless she proves herself to be of good character (and for real, I've met a few girls on there who are working on graduate degrees and stuff and have actual intellectual quality, I don't live in Murika or Eurabia so girls here tend to be less slutty and don't tend to use Tinder for fast fucks, except for the girls that don't swipe right on dudes who look like me).

So you're off the mark on every count, I don't know why you took the time to post today but I hope your parents are still proud of you.

>>34977272
T-thanks bro. It's not easy to give some of these hoes up...

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>>34977365
> if you want to be a big guy
im already big guy m8
thanks for the advice but i dont do deadlifts

>>34977384
>I don't do deadlifts
I'm sure there's an argument for this here, but if you're concerned about your back then you should probably be doing some kind of pull. Considering your trap to shoulder ratio, definitely the clean pulls.
>im already a big guy
for you

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>>34977384
>but i dont do deadlifts

>>34977384
these pics are setting off my gaydar

>>34977365
Everyone is walking around borderline dysfunctional so your response doesnt surprise me at all. You use steroids just like they do. You will die just like they will and the worms will eat your flesh just like every other living thing on this planet.

You posted nothing about progress or anything remotely useful and then wrote an essay. If you didn't care you wouldnt have wrote all that. You did it because you envy them even if its on a subconscious level.

Oh point at that guy so i feel better about myself. What are you a fucking woman?

God when did this place go to shit?

>>34977400
Your reading comprehension is somewhere between "Asian exchange student" and retard levels. That's the greatest extent to which I will humor you.

>>34977384
Not the last guy, but your back isn't great at all desu. Plus it looks like you need to lose some fat brah. You should grow a beard cuz your chin looks weak as fuck, and the mask pictures with the gay contacts and or photoshop are just weird.
>Please don't trip

>>34977409
Yet I got into oxford and have more money in my family trust then you will make in your entire life.

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>>34977391
>>34977393
a lot of people dont do deadlifts and doing well, i just dont like them in general
yea im happy with my mass right now
>>34977395
thanks i guess hah
>>34977410
cant grow a nice beard, its kinda patchy sooo

>>34977444
I'm not saying you absolutely have to do traditional deadlifts, but I can't think of a single reason why you wouldn't do some kind of heavy and preferably explosive pull. "Don't like them" is a shitty excuse when you're burning through gear and need to make use of limited time and pharmaceuticals to make your body as strong, balanced, and good-looking as possible.

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>>34977435

>>34977262
bump im scared

>>34977463
tren e for 6 months?

>>34977460
Go look up the Van Duyn family faggot then come back and laugh.

They talk about us all the time on /pol/

Oh...im sorry. I'm "retarded" and asian right.

I hope youre saying that in 30 years when they own your land you live on. My family will be long gone by then :)

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>>34977472

>>34977463
>been blasting tren for 24 weeks
go to the doctor now, I'd be impressed if you aren't already dead.

>>34977463
>>34977262
please fucking pics man. i'm curious about how people look when they blast tren and other heavy compounds for 3months +

Put up some pics and you'll get some legit advice

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>>34977459
thanks for the input imo, will keep doing what im doing now
>>34977490
muuh dick

>>34977501
>how does my back look
>like shit, here's what you can do
>I don't like that kind of stuff, thanks for the help but fuck you
suit yourself I guess. maybe you should namefag so that people know not to waste their time giving you advice or asking for yours

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>>34977522
no need to namefag, just post pics with the gay mask lmfao

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>>34977522
>>34977528
keep hatin' brehs, but you will never be on the same level as im, anyway i dont lurk there that much

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>>34977559
What is this level you speak of masked one? Are you a Mexican wrestler?

>>34977559
my back doesn't look like shit
most people on /fraud/ don't have backs that look like shit, especially seeing as how most of us deadlift

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>>34977384
Such pretty eyes.

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>>34977589
yes indeed im wrestler, nice guess tho
>>34977597
keep doing whatever ur working for you
>>34977615
thanks

>>34977665
an actual luchadoralord

>>34977501
what are you doing for your back now?

lookn hench desu

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>>34975087
Don't you talk shit about DNP

>>34977665
Is everyday Halloween for you? I don't get it. Are you really a luchador?

Sup you fucking ugly cunts

Hormones are so weird. On letro and test, start getting terrible acne, drop letro, acne goes away. I thought acne was associated with high estro?

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>>34977665
Good job man. A house and BMW wrestling is definitely boss life. What gear are you running? Must have a shit ton of injuries.

>>34977472
>posts his family name on 4chan to prove he ISNT retarded
what a hoot

>>34977894
It is, but your hormone levels could have stabilised now with regards to the test. Letro will take a week to start working. Odds on the acne wasn't related to high eostrogen

>>34977665

are you that famous wrestler shane mitchells with the finishing move succulent chin melody?

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>>34977559
>>34977665
These pics are making me cringe so hard.

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>>34977700
>>34977811
as i mentioned above im a luchador
>>34977754
basically just a lot of row variations and pull ups/chin ups
>>34977911
thanks, right now just test and halo

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>>34977981
>He thinks he's taking halo

>>34977981
yeah and I'm a real 40s gangster too, I don't wear this fedora for show

isn't halo some higher level shit? that seems to be up there in the "shit that people don't like to take unless they're getting paid to" branch of gear. why not run like, idk, deca or such?

>>34978002
he thinks every buys bathtub brand halo and doesnt have access to the legitimate version of the product

lel

>>34977945
I used letro for 1 month. Idk

Can gyno come back after gyno surgery? Will the gland grow back? Can my nips still get hard?

>>34978051
If you had the gland out it won't come back. I would think your nips would go back to being hard after the surgery.

>>34978092
Idiot. Gyno surgery involves complete removal of the nipple.

>>34978107
Wut

>>34978126
>

>>34978051
results are usually permanent after the extra breast tissue is removed. there are some factors that can cause the recurrance of gyno such as weight gain, steroids, and hormones. so yes its possible.
>>34978107
ur an idiot

>>34978188
I don't know much about gyno, but isn't it basically an inflation of the mammary gland with fat tissue? where can the fat tissue collect if there isn't a gland there? it's not like the fat has to gather at the tit due to the presence of estrogen, just that estrogen receptors signal the activation of the tissue gathering action of the mammary gland, or am I completely off on this?

>>34978188
Ive been taking Raloxifene 60mg per day for a month now. Haven't really seen any change. I'm going to bump it up to 120mg, and increase my adex.

Gyno is causing me psychological trauma. It's all i can think about.

How much would a dianabol cycle cost in the states?

>>34978248
Actual breast tissue, not excess fat, is present.
>Gynecomastia is triggered by a decrease in the amount of the hormone testosterone compared with estrogen. The cause of this decrease can be conditions that block the effects of or reduce testosterone or a condition that increases your estrogen level.
>>34978251
There are worse things than gyno, don't worry about it much. But I can imagine how it can be causing you psychological trauma.

I need some help guys. If you can.

I started a cycle mid-September. It was Tren-A 50mg ED, and 30mg of Test-P ED. I was using 0.25mg prami ED and 0.25mg Adex EOD. I stayed on this for about 12-14 days but dropped the Tren because of mood sides. I decided to bump my test P dosage to 50mg ED. So at this point I'm on 0.5mg adex EOD and 350mg test P weekly. I started to get gyno symptoms and acne so I hopped on 20mg nolva ED and letrozole to kill the gyno (dropping adex). This worked. I then tapered down the letrozole to 0.25 ED and tapered down the test P to 30mg a day because I wasn't getting sides at this dosage. Anyway, at some point after being on letrozole for a few weeks, my appetite is non-existent and I haven't had morning wood whatsoever since I got off the Tren. Not only not am I not having morning wood, my dick just won't work. I was a sex maniac on Tren and now I can't get it up to save my life. Even using Viagra. I've been off letrozole for a few days now hoping my appetite returns. But what do you think the issue could be? Residual prolactin? Could the letrozole be in my system still

I've been lurking for a long time and appreciate your guys' expertise.

>>34978272
dbol cost usually around $10 for 50 tablets (10mg each)

>>34978328
Would you dbol cycle as a beginner?

>>34978309
I keep poking and my nips when i know i shouldn't. That will just make it worse.

Every time i go in to the bathroom or in front of a mirror i have to look.

It's driving me crazy.

>>34978369
no, if you are serious about it, the first cycle should be test e only or with dbol kickstarter. you dont want to do oral only cycle. you cant run orals for long and the gains are just not worth it.

>>34978326
So you are on 210mg test a week and 0.25mg letro a day at the minute?

>>34978413
I was, until 3 days ago when I just gave up letro in hopes that my problems are simply estrogen related. Now just 210mg test p. It's strange because my acne seems to be clearing up on my back and chest. But the appetite and sexual issues are still there.

>>34978386
You will get over it eventually or just save up for surgery. I used to be fat and since then I have stretch marks all over my stomach, hips, shoulders even on my arms, took me a couple years to get used to it. You know it may be ugly, but as stereotypical as it sound, it's not the end of the world.

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>>34978493
Thanks brah

>>34978426
I think your problems suggest a simple case of to much ai, I'd come off letro all together, give it at least a week to get out your system and look at it again. 210mg if test won't require ai, at the most 0.25mg once or twice a week, but not daily. i don't think tren would be causing an issue as you only ran it for 2 weeks.

Your acne clearing up suggests your eostrogen being low and also low appetite.

Come off everything and run your test p only, give it until next weekend and look at it again

>>34978551
Thanks Cheeky<3

Just got my bloods, test way above referance range, fsh crashed, estro right in the middle of reference. 500mg test e/wk, 0.25mg adex EOD. muh sweet spot. feels good man

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>>34978586
Gratz.

Dont forget to eat big.

>>34972907
i walked back to the squat racks, threw my gym bag on the floor - it's 5:30, or within a few minutes of 5:30 on monday - and someone was stupid enough to be on those racks. i just said "5 minutes". and when i came back in there his shit was still on the rack. so i took 205 or whatever it was, turned, threw it over the bench that was behind the squat rack and told him dont ever come back in here on a monday again. i'm on a missoon here. i dont wanna hear about the chick you banged friday night at a keg party while i'm in here training. and if i told you twice a 45 came flying at you. WOOSH. SHUT UP

>>34978634
Did he come back?

>>34978644
nah

>>34974957

Tbh I don't find insulin does a great deal, except not make me fucking tired all the time, because I seem to get insulin resistance on roids even with good estro control. No matter what roid I use, I get resistance.
So it's good blood glucose control for me, natty I'm fine. I find myself using 15-20iu post workout and I don't really get fat or anything, a nice pump, that's it (novo rapid)
I eat about 100-200g carbs and 150g protein in the space of an hour of using it. I mean it's not doing a lot.
Just controlling my blood sugar.

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>>34978634
Cool story, tell it again

>>34978750
i walked back to the squat racks, threw my gym bag on the floor - it's 5:30, or within a few minutes of 5:30 on monday - and someone was stupid enough to be on those racks. i just said "5 minutes". and when i came back in there his shit was still on the rack. so i took 205 or whatever it was, turned, threw it over the bench that was behind the squat rack and told him dont ever come back in here on a monday again. i'm on a missoon here. i dont wanna hear about the chick you banged friday night at a keg party while i'm in here training. and if i told you twice a 45 came flying at you. WOOSH. SHUT UP

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Whatup fagoots

>>34978900
Greetings homosexual.
how u

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So lately I have not been ahving much of dick gains, I took likeless than .25 Ai for past two days and I have raging boners. Cant stop thinking bout fucking this girl at fedex. Think imma keep doing minimal AI doses . 600 mg test constantly. My confidence is fucking crazy tho.

>>34978939
Ok

Bros I feel like my training is not enough, I pretty much train 6 times per week and I still fill like it's not enough.
Is there any good workout program for roids?

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>>34978900
Muh dick.

>>34978939
taking 50mg proviron ED and 500mg test-e/week.
i need to fap 2 times a day in addition to fucking my girl 2 times.
i dont know if its amazing or fucking awful

>>34978900
Been playing on tinder recently and I can't ever find any good looking chicks. My city sucks

There was one with HUGE titties and a thin waist but her face is busted. Might be brown baggin this weekend fellas

>>34978990
what's the deal with proviron, not the same guy but can I buy it and use it at any time? on/off cycle?
How is it different from cialis for example?

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>>34978917
Back from beach. Life is good.

>>34979013
Tinder in my city seems to be cafish gays and trannies most of the time when it's a good looking girl.

Feel with me bb

>>34978990
I'm like that natty.

>>34978990
See I have not had issues like that. I mean I fuck a plastic pussy everyday. lol. but still its weird

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>>34979022
>How is it different from cialis for example?
Proviron affects libido
Cialis affects erections

>>34978990
>>34978939

My libido has def dropped since the second or third week of test + dbol when I was wanking like crazy. Been taking .25 adex EoD since the beginning... might go every 3 days just to see what happens.

Then again, I feel pretty normal, like before cycle... I'm old so I dont really get horned up often. Maybe I shouldn't mess with what I have going if my hormones seem normal

whats the bare minimum for blood work to get checked? The lab doesnt offer female hormone panel

>>34979035
unfortunately i was a low test kek before, so this is a new feel

>>34978939
currently on anadrol 50mg daily kickstart, 0.5 eod AI, and waiting for my test-e 600/deca 400/wk to hit stable levels. gotta say, I don't think I've been hornier in my life. an extremely average but short and really shy girl I was talking to said that she was interested in being fuck-friends, and my hardon just maxed the fuck out. cycles are a fucking shitshow for me, I don't even miss drinking now that I am a fucking cyclone of dick ready to tear down any pussy in my path

>>34979050
Test, e2, cbc, liver enzymes ast alt.

Pretty much it unless you want cholesterol checked.

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>>34978900
ayyy

>>34979032
canre can we go to the beach together sometime? I can mire your pecs you can mire my Reagan like hair?

>>34979122
damm bro. Like perfection

>>34979136
fyi this is how people end up fucking traps falling for just ass and not asking for baby pictures

>>34979146
LOl IDGAF i'd fuck that from behind

>>34979181
She looks like the girl from coronation street.....can't remember her name though

>>34979181
>>34979202
Brooke Vincent, she looks like her

>>34979202
Coronation street? Is that slang for things i'd like to put in that booty?

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>>34979146

>>34979228
eh be like charlie sheen if you want. more money for big pharma when you need your aids medication fucking traps i guess....

ulisses Jr has gyno? how can you fuck up so bad?