/roids/

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>tfw kebabs

>main goal: fuck girls
>end up being feeling things for one girl
Share your feels with me /fraud/

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>>34926515
> tfw kebabs incoming

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What do you guys think of a Letro only cycle as a beginner? I have pubertal gyno.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/pct-post-steroid-cycle-therapy/letrozole-good-read-579532.html

>>34926536
>develop feels for girl
>hitting it off
>she spent the night at my place thursday and friday, had great sex
>saturday her annoying friend comes into town
>annoying friend wants her to go out
>we go out to the bars to amuse the friend
>friend barely drinks,yet acts hammered and obnoxious
>its about 11 and the friend meets some other friends
>tells us we can go and dont need to keep her company
>Me and the girl walk all the way back to my place
>Right when we get there the friend calls her crying hysterically
>demands to be picked up
>My girl asks if Im coming with to go pick her up
>Im tired and a lil drunk, didnt want to go out in the first place
>Say no I dont need to put up with this shit
>She storms off
>Todays the next day and I apologized
>She accepted it but it doesnt feel the same
>Been texting really short and taking hours to respond all day

I fucked up /fit/...damn Im a jackass. I dont have patience for girls BS though

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>>34926556
If your gyno is set then the only way to get rid of it is to get it cut out. Doc confirmed.

1. Do I cruise for the the same amount of time I was on cycle? I'd like to cruise for 2 months only. Would like opinions and experiences.

2. How much Test E do I cruise on? A safe bet from my research is 250-400mg per week. Opinions, advice?

3. Do I continue popping my AI every other day like I currently am? Or do I lessen it? My opinion is to only use if sides emerge, and if not every 4 days. Current AI is Arimidex (Anastrozol) - (.5mg every other day)

>>34926581
You made a huge mistake there anon yet you don't see it, I can help you but only if you really want to improve your shit up.

>>34926581
lol you apologized.. beta pussy

>>34926581
You fucked up by apologizing tbqh

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>>34926538
>tfw I know that feel

>>34926599
How? By giving in and apologizing? How should I proceed from here? Just ignore her for a bit?

>>34926631
too late just find a new one

>>34926631
Learn to say no my friend, but learn to say no without feeling guilty, without the need to apologize.
Our time here is short, don't waste it doing stuff you don't want with people you don't want.

>>34926536
Pls don't let this happen to me brehs. I think it's already happening. If I catch the feelings I'll actually have to run 2g of gear to drown the pain

>>34926586
Cruise as long as it takes for your bloods and lipids and shit to go back to normal. 250mg/wk is pretty standard cruise. Unless you're unfortunate or a fatass you probably won't even need to worry about estro sides on a cruise dose

>inb4 some anon being mad about me giving advice

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>>34926657
>34926657
Thanks :)

>>34926536
>have gf
>things are serious
>been together for couple of years
>could see myself being with her forever
>one day texts me says she doesn't love me anymore and is leaving
>breaks my heart and moves away

>start lifting again
>stop being skinny fat dadbod
>start looking good again
>find out that she has a new bc after only 2 months apart
>also find out she had feelings for at least one of my friends and wanted to fuck him
>use anger to inject bathtub chemicals into body
>lift more
>look better
>fuck more bitches in 6 months than I have my whole life

>finally find a girl who is smart and cute, actually isn't a piece of shit

Maybe I'll finally make it brehs

when pinning how do you know you've reached muscle rather than just fat?

Anyone currently rocking a buzzcut?

Got the sudden urge to get one before I head home for break, can't even think of a reason other than that I want to.

Roommate tells me I'll look like a criminal, but chicks dig the badbody vibe r-right?

Anyway, those who did it, how did it turn out?

>>34926647
Should I completely write off that previous bish then? And thanks Anon those words really hit deep I've been in a little bit of a rut lately, classes are getting to me and lifes been stressing me out.

>>34926709


Badboy**** smfh

>>34926702
Be lean enough that you would have to really guck up to miss muscle.

>>34926730
i'm 12%, i just don't know if i should stick it in all the way or

steroids are for manlet faggots

>>34926753
I use 1inch pins and yeah all the way in.

>>34926765
Obligatory
>>34926753
You are fine stop being scared

>>34926715
Same here
>mfw very important exam in less than 1 month
I can't handle the stress so I try to stay out of problems.

Any femanons in here? I'm looking to go /fraud/ but all the info I find is for dudes, obviously. Where to begin? Inhibitors or roids?

>>34926928

Kinda wouldn't risk anything more than var if you don't want a clit dick.

>>34926699
I feel you breh that's basically same shit that happened to me except it was the reason I starred lifting

>>34926928
>>34926953
I keep seeing that women should make their cycles very short and then take a few weeks off, to avoid virilization. In this case are the positive effects of use even noticeable and worthwhile?

>>34926928
roiding for girls is so easy.
don't even have to worry about pct.
var 5-10 mg ED should be first cycle

I got epi and LGD on hand rn /fraud/. Will be going out of the country for 4 weeks so not enough time to do a whole test cycle and dont want to travel with test. Can I stack epi and LGD only for 6 weeks then hop on test when I get back? Or is this just retarded?

Just got a message from the girl I was seeing before current gf
Says she wants to be my side bitch
That pussy...... It was amazing

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Could someone explain why creatine and anavar stacks together well?

>>34927041

You'll probably want to PCT if you run LGD and epi, LGD suppresses pretty hard and you may or not feel like shit within 3-4 weeks of starting LGD, its really a gamble.

Just do Test, its safer than epi anyway.

>>34927041
sure, the var/epi will shut you down so you may end up feeling pretty shitty and your dink may not work

>>34927024
My gf is on 10mg NPP every other day, making pretty good gains. Acne flares up if she eats junk food and her bean got bigger for a couple of weeks but it's near normal now. She plans to be on for 8 weeks total. I would say start with var since it's in and out of your system much faster.

Is it still worth roiding even for just one cycle?

>>34927108
depends on your definition of what worth it means
could be a good learning experience
>>34927095
tfw a girl's cycle costs $30
smhtbqhfam

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>>34926709
Been doing a buzz for years

Requirements are good skull ans eyebrows imo girls like my hair and love to feel me head

>>34927069
This.

Currently running 100mg e/d
Seeing great results

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>>34927122
>my 4 vials of NPP is easily enough for 2 years of her blasts

>>34927122
Well, what kind of gains can one see after one cycle? two cycles? I would like to do the minimum possible to just get a bit of a boost before next year

>>34927041
Why not just wait until you get back and then do a real cycle? It's not like waiting 4 weeks is going to do anything negative.

>>34926584
What about letro giving a slight test boost?
worth?

>>34927156
I don't have patience lol. Thats probably what I'm going to end up doing I was just bored and the epi bottles are sitting right here staring down

>>34927148
equivalent for a guy is like 10x that.
this is why guys should make more money then women.
>>34927153
this is a tough question to answer. genetics, how well you pct/diet/train play an important role. some people could lose all their gains after pct, some could keep it all.
you won't know until you try.
>>34927158
not worth it imo

Who here gets bloodwork done before and after cycles to make sure they're OK?

I'm nervous to start a cycle if it meant ruining my HPTA for life and never being able to have kids.

>>34927167
"I don't have patience"
Then find a new hobby, kiddo. Bodybuilding isn't for you.

>>34927175
permanent infertility is quite rare, especially if you aren't a moron about it.

Getting bloodwork before and after is part of not being a moron about it.

>>34927195
I did a cycle of LGD. My test before the cycle was 540 (but this was after a month of contest dieting? Wonder how much diet drops your test?)

A couple months after that cycle my test was 396... So, incrementally dropping my test isn't something ideal to me.

>>34927189
most realest thing i've hear all day.

>>34926928
Just found a fem chem forum on RX Muscle, for those interested:

http://forums.rxmuscle.com/forumdisplay.php?71-Fem-Chem

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>>34927158
You need estrogen to be healthy. Letro crushes estro even in small doses. Bad idea.

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> natural blonde, half-ass dyes hair red
> considered hot but manages to turn me off anyway
> that megalomastia

Seems high-Estrogen. I need 'showing' pictures of Christina Hendricks for research purposes.

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>>34927363
I'm pinning a gram of test a week and I don't really find her attractive either? I think the high-test thing is just pure meme stuff. I love girls like this, silky sleek petite bodies

>>34927363
She's just well past her prime, I think she's pushing 40 now.

I have been using 25mg of var as a preworkout because I have them lying around and dbol gives me acne
Wha you guys think
I know var is for end of a a blast but I don't care
What you guys think?

>>34927432
Go for it, var is good all the time

>>34927432
If it works then it works really. Like you said it's better suited for other purposes but if you have it around and wanna use it, why not

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>>34927436
Cool that's what I thought I just needed a random person on the Internet to confirm it for me

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>>34927389
high test is a meme chubby chasers use as an excuse

this is what real high test men like

>>34927463

Srsly cant get enough of them petite girls

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>>34927463
>>34927471
> petite
> hot


Pick 1

>>34927463
Agreed but
>no hooves

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>>34927471
>>34927482
>>34927494

Why do you niggers insist that there is an objective, undeniable beauty standard?

I ain't going full-dove mode but female beauty is somewhat subjective.

Some guys like petite chinese cartoon characters, somelike mud shark arab girls, some like mlp grills

Can't really argue about taste in these matters imo

But this is objectively the hottest grill to ever and ur all wrong if u object

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>>34927471
petite is where its at

>>34927482
>liking fat girls
please
either youre a chubby chaser or had a pregnancy fetish, gotta be one of the two

>>34927526
shes not and youre wrong
(and probably a gay)

>>34927494
are the hooves the sexual part

>>34927540
Literally cp jerbear tread safely

>>34927526
for some reason i'm attracted to perfectly average girls.
like not the general range of average, but perfectly center.

i've only met a couple, but tfw no perfectly centered average gf

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For the anons (and MG) last thread curious about my girls hamstrings and quads pre-var. She squats 225 ATG for 6. Never really lifts heavy just hypertrophy.

>>34927550
Did you guys ever get off the brown!? I haven't seen you post in forever dawg

>>34927546
no its not, its a cartoon drawing of a female wearing clothes
not sexual at all you pervert

besides, beastiality is being posted right there lol
>>34927550

>>34927540
Yes, but 2d>3s regardless

>>34927547
Me 2 senpai, the fact that i have no idea what to expect about them, they are sort of strange for me, I have no sterotypes, it's just plain strange.

>>34927568
>Drawing of pre-pubescent girl wearing microkini
>not sexualized

Is this what you tell yourself bro

>>34927526

Shes more cute than hot

would take on a date then ravage/10

>>34927582
it's really weird tbqh when you encounter one. for some reason they're really interesting to you, but you bros probably wouldn't find her attractive.

i've only met 2 perfect 5s in the past 2 years. one went down though since she cut her hair.

>>34927599
>one went down though since she cut her hair
now FL is going to post fml

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>>34927612
Did FL ever post after that sperg-fest with the wedding date grill?

And where in the actual fuck is DHB? Did he say something about quitting posting here or wat

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Ask a guy whos ex girlfriend was just found shot to death in her apartment anything.

P.S. I didnt do it

>>34927632
does it sadden you? did she deserve it (cheating cunt etc)?

>>34927632
Is it a good or bad feel?

>>34927632
what kind of gun did you use?

>>34927625
he posted a few days ago of pictures he's taken.

DHB was banned for a month (lmao dhb cant into ban evasion). i have no sense of time when it comes to 4chan so idk if his month has been up yet or not.

btw i love that your sticking with sadguy, imo you're more relavent then before

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>>34927590
>little girls cant celebrate birthdays
I bet youre a lot of fun

>>34927625
he crashed his car, they gave him asprin, and he took too many drugs

>>34927632
why'd you do it

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>>34927644

Not really sad. It was a summer fling up here. IDK if she deserved it. She was into drugs. Im assuming it stemmed from that, so she might have if thats how you look at it.

>>34927648
Kind of just numb to it right now. Kind of weird.

>>34927649
lol cant pin it on me copper

>>34927661
she slept with my anime pillow :P


thats fucking weird. Theres been like 3 murders here this past month and like 8 ODs. This town is going to hel fast. Its crazy. Feel like Juneau is imploding.

>>34927656
>imo you're more relavent then before

I was pretty goddamn irrelevant before so I'm not surprised senpai lol

What do you guys think about taking dieting breaks btw? I'm feeling pretty shit and I've been at it for like 10wks. Kind of at the stubborn fat part of it.

Am I just a fatty looking for a way out or is there something to this

>>34927693
>What do you guys think about taking dieting breaks btw?
try not to go overboard or it could turn into a week-two week long think.
probably just do like 2 days at maintenance with high carbs.

and yeah, you were pretty shit before. still shit now, just not as much shit. you've improved by not posting CB too.

>>34927710
It amazes me how standards of bodyfat percentage are determined by normies man. I'm at like 12-13% and people think I'm fit as ballz

Maybe if you didn't think 20% was normal holy shit

And it's only getting wurse, pray for society

Atleast fashion pushes for skinny people so there will always be that

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>>34927748
>skinniest of my friends
>im a fatass

>biggest of myfriends
>total dyel

god bless america

>>34927748
this desu
all my natty friends all gushing about how lean i am
tfw im 15%bf at the end of my bulk

>>34927748
>Atleast fashion pushes for skinny people so there will always be that
For now
Just you wait. The sjws will make people think fat is normal

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>>34927791
I fucking hope not man

I love high fashion now because in spite of being ridiculous a lot of item designers just don't give a fuck at all what the public thinks kek

Sticking to their guns, being flamboyant and skinny as fuck, none of this hugbox fatty tumblr noise

>>34927785
15% at the end of your bulk is bretty good man. I bulk up to like 20 evertime baka baka baka food2good

>>34927820
>lot of item designers just don't give a fuck at all what the public thinks
That's been a staple of the fashion industry for so long and the general public seem to have forgotten that

It's not about trying to tell people how they should be
It's about fuck you we make what we want

>>34927562
No were still trying but we just used tonight :(

>>34927844
Jesus christ dude. Order some suboxone and start the quitting process when it lands baka

>>34927841
>It's about fuck you we make what we want

Based

Speaking of cutting earlier did you ever get da shredz? I haven't been on much in the past month

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>start msten again
>looking forward to the lovely pumps
>var just ruins them

fuck var pumps

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>>34927568
Mean thing to say man wow

>>34927854
Already have some bunevail and Xanax on the way to kick. Getting to old for this shit. Spent all nights last Tuesday in the hospital with my gym partner after he ODed. The ride has to stop

>>34927887
nice pancake feet

>>34927887
A buddy of my close friend just OD'd last night and my close friend had to perform CPR on his ass

Shit ain't nothing to fuck wit

I wake up er'day and thank the lawd I never started a habit with it

>>34927931
Edit: They did call an ambulance for him, the cpr just came right before that.

>>34927887
look good for a heroin addict damn

>>34927887
wtf is wrong with your foot?

>>34927854
Haven't bought the dnp yet
I'm saving for a bond for a new place to live and some great and peps so the dnp has kind of become less of a priority as I munch dbol and get bigger kek

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anyone have that pastebin?

is hgh worth it?

>>34928029
>anyone have that pastebin?
afraid not, too lazy to search archives.

>is hgh worth it?
if you have lots of money, then yes.

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who else here /high volume/
8x15+5 you feel me

>>34928029
hgh id really expensive
and you want legit, not chinese freezedried insulin

>>34927887
im sorry friend
just some bantz

>>34927389
I can't do petite girls they remind me of my sister too much and really thin girls remind me of her during the middle of her chemo blasts.
(She's got the all clear now, thanks for asking you are always the nicest /fraud/)

ok fraud im nearly done exams and gonna start a blast soon. thinking of doing a lulzy split to enchance how i look in a shirt

2x shoulder/trap days
2x arms days
1x chest back
1x legs

thoughts? (srs)

>>34926484
I've been working out for a long while, and I recently turned 18. What roids do I take to into jeff seid mode?

>>34928103
Jeff is natural
>>34928084
yes, i like cutting the weight in half of my max working set and bust out as many reps i can do
lately i've been doing tons of reps of squats because i like not walking afterwards.

my last squat session was
3 plates for 8 reps
2 plates for 15-20 reps
1 plate for 30+ reps

>>34927919
Hey stop it I have collapsed arches

>>34927947
Thanks, this relapse I haven't been using more than 2-3 days in a row without doing a mini detox.

>>34928084
It's ok friend I hoped so

>>34928101
Are you try for bane-mode?

>>34928150
>over 20 reps on squats
you must hate yourself lol

>>34928101
sloppy routine
can combine alot of those days

>>34926702
If your using 1"-1.5" rigs, you won't miss the glute

fuck pip and fuck pinning quads
walking around at work all day like a retard
had to tell everyone i ran a marathon on the weekend and my legs are still sore
also was meant to train legs today but now i have to do upper body

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> oral contraceptive is just girl steroids
> shuts down their hpg axis, liver damage, same shit
> remember Obama & Company said something about free oral contraceptives for teenage girls being a right and everyone who disagrees is a stupid racist
> in fact Obamacare advertises their choice of 18 different types of contraceptives including steroid injections, transdermal steroids, and oral steroids
> tfw Obama gives little girls free steroids

Can't believe I never pondered how fucked up that is.

Green light for human experimentation. Super-females.

>>34928084
holy shit I know the girl on the right. She's from Toronto. Any idea where this picture originated?

Does anyone have experience with peptides? They aren't illegal in my country and seem to be far less damaging to your body that steroids. I've done a few cycles but thinking of making the switch. Anyone with experience?

What are the minimums you should really get to before handing in the natty card, m8s?

1,2,3,4 plates for OHP, Bench, Squat and Deadlifts, respectively?

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I just fubar'd my knee, its been a week and isnt letting up, will taking hgh fix this shit so i can get back to my squats?

Iiiis late.

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How many spots do you guys rotate between pinning?
I switch between glutes and quads
I feel like I should add another spot

>>34928439
Use 25G pins and just get used to it
I get absolutely no pain from pinning quads now

>>34928582
All of them
You should lift all he plates in your gym before you are ready for steroids

>>34928835
Delts and quads
That's it
More than enough spots if I'm pinning twice a week

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>>34928845
I think I'll try quads and delts for a while then I'm tired of pinning glutes

>>34928835
I pin ED and I go right glute, right quad, left glute, left quad, then from the top again.
I probably wouldn't do spots that often for too long but for a 10 week blast it's manageable.

>>34928864
I've never pins glutes
Not even sure where or what I'm doing there kek

>>34928887
That was my first spot when I started I have never pinned delts or lats either

Just ate 2.5k cAl in one sitting

Dat IF

Might puke

im 2 days in to pinning tren enanthate and my sweat smells weird already (the same way it used to when i was on tren).. is it just placebo?

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>>34929021
Risk / reward with Tren
Could be your mind or could really be happening
I bet it's just placebo desu family

>>34929056
its not a problem senpai
i actually like the smell desu
just curious if its my mind playing tricks or if tren e can really start effecting your body that quick

>>34928516
>super female
a super female is just a male
give her 1g test, 1g tren, some MK-677 and watch her grow

>>34929069
How do you handle fatigue with tren? The one time I ran it I was ready to nap like 24/7 just no energy for cardio or anything besides pushin weight and eatin chicken

>>34929077
Not the anon you were asking but when I ran Tren I slept all day and was awake all night it was rough

>>34928084
Up the carbs.
Fatigue on tren has never been a problem for me. DNP is hell though.

>>34928029
http://pastebin.com/ys7xXYkL
I really need to update this thing.

>>34928344
it's a nice feeling to lose hearing, get close to passing out, and walk like a newborn giraffe.

Actual real question duders, I just got a house with a basement and I have a barbell and a ton of weight, but no bench. I've figured out how to work pretty much everything but what the shit can I do for chest? Also have a small barbell and an ez curl bar.

>>34929245
buy a bench?

>>34929245
Landmine press.

>>34927158
A small weekly dose of letro will significantly boost your test without lowering your estro to unhealthily low levels, that being said even that boost in testosterone won't be enough to give any significant boost in gains unless you currently have legit hypogonadism
http://ergo-log.com/letrozole2.html

>>34929330
Can you guys help me understand letro? Does it permanently tank the estrogen unless you raise it again or is it like adex that just temporarily lowers it prior to the 'rebound'?

>>34929350
Letro is temporary but it has a long half life so it will potentially take a few weeks for your levels to return to normal

>>34929296
landmine press, i feel it more in my triceps/delts than in my chest

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>>34929245
Put plates on back and do pushups, weighted dips, floor press, etc.

>>34929399
So say a guy assumes he has high estro and has for a while, and taking adex has only provided a temporary means of dealing with it

Get legit asin or letro? Letro a helluva alot cheaper than pharma asin iirc

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what do you guys think of this routine for natties?

>>34929564
Letro is probably better but be prepared to have to experiment a bit to find your optimal dose, Tbh in my experience 90% of high oestro cases can be solved by dropping bodyfat percentage down to single digits so keep that in mind

>>34929608
Word. Prolly just keep cutting and hold off on the letro. What's your current stack like anon?

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>superdrol hairloss and roid rage
>it isn't androgenic they said

>>34929596
Seems overly complex unless you're an elite powerlifter who has to bust his ass at the gym for weeks just to add 10lbs to his total

>>34929646
I've read some shit about sdrol giving gyno as well, seems like it isn't well understood at all

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What's the best substance for motivation, or energy to go work out?
I am having a hard time pushing myself to go to the gym and when I do it usually is a drag.

>>34929633
Just finished a six week bulking cycle of superduperdrol and test-prop, gonna cut for a month or two on alb then add some anavar(tfw pharma grade) for six weeks, it's going to be a good summer bros

>>34929650
so its not that good for a casual gym rat?

>>34929665
Masteron and/or dbol, run either with a test base

>>34929684
What bf percentage do you usually bulk to before cuttin?

>>34929687
The best advice someone can give you is to find a routine that works for you. Your natty test levels might be godtier and that lifitng routine might be golden for you; theres no tellin' just based on 4chan speculation

>>34929665
Caffeine

>>34929687
You basically want to stick to Occam's Razor, find the simplest routine that still give consistent gains and only change it once it stops giving consistent gains

>>34929696
>What bf percentage do you usually bulk to before cuttin?
Ideally about 15% bodyfat, I'm a big fan of tren and dbol tho which means that at any time I could be extremely dry from the tren and look about 3% lower in bodyfat than I actually am or be bloated from the dbol and look 3% higher in bodyfat than I actually am so there's a fair bit of guess work involved.

>>34929564
Letro is unnecessary in 99% of cases.
What are you running and how much adex are you taking? Is it pharma?

>>34929646
Superdrol makes me irritable like no other.

>>34929646
I lost zero hair on superdrol and I'm prone to hair loss, are you sure that your hair loss isn't caused by taking a high dose of testosterone?

i'm feeling mild pain in my shoulder after last shoulder workout on thursday, should i go easy on it today or skip completely? 3rd week of cycle.

so apparently my supplier went kill right before sending my order
where can I get clomid and nolva that ships to EU, adc won't send to my county

>>34929770
I actually have pharma adex and UGL asin and I'm sure the asin is really just adex. I take 0.25mg of the ugl asin daily to feel normal and have a hard dick. 0.25mg of the pharma daily feels like too much; no libido, joints kinda hurt, hard to cum

This is all on a cruise

>>34929665
Mibolerone if you don't care about your liver.
Else just dbol or tbol to stack?

>>34929855
Don't order nolva. Nolva only removes the issues until you take it. Anastrozole removes them permanently. Also take it DURING your cycle and PCT. ukroids you can always count on

>>34926709
Have a buzz cut, is pretty nice. Saves like 5-10 minutes in the morning cause I had shit curly hair

>>34929909
what's the dosing on that compared to nolva
1mg anastrazole = 20mg nolva?

>>34929965
Nigga they ain't even remotely the same thing

do some research

I've got two vials of test p and tren a lying around. I want to take these two on a 4 week cut while waiting for my test e to kick in on a 12 week cycle. How should I dose them?

>>34930021
250 test 350 tren

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>>34929665
Keep a mirin folder

If I want to blast and cruise for 6 months first cycle with tren and test what should I keep the doses at?

>>34930079
We will help you for the low low price of 30 dollars a month paid 3 months in advance

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>>34930078
My nigga

>>34929965
1mg Anastrozole ED.

>>34930078
>>34930095
whats his bf% like?

this pip i get with a 500mg/mg test mix is killing me. How to into lowering pip feels?

Where can I find legit test E on the inter webs?

>>34930140
Lurk more

>>34930113
5%

Been running Clen since Tuesday. Started at 60 mcg. Ramped up to 180 mcg today. Down 8 pounds... probably a lot of water, but I'm really liking it so far.

Shakes are minor. Makes writing difficult. Focus is great though. I also get a slight high and am less inhibited. Haven't incorporated cardio yet. Gonna start today and do it for the next 8 days, then quit for 2 weeks and evaluate body comp.

>>34930186
It's also making me really irritable at times though. I'm not running anything else atm as I'm cutting before I begin my first blast.

If clen is making me irritable, it's likely that blast doses of test will to right?

>>34930215
>Making me irritable
Could be your blood pressure. Get that shit under control before you blast dude.

guys do you shave your arms and legs?

>>34930243
I don't even shave my pubes

>>34930291
wtf thats disgusting m8

Wanting to do an anavar only cycle.

any thoughts on this?

>>34930389
Are you a grill

>>34930353
How

I'm not a woman

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>>34930125
lower gauge needle
slower injection
warmer oil

that's all you can do

>>34927133

balding.jpg

>>34930291
sensitive skin veet senpai, makes it so easy.

>>34930538
higher gauge needle you mean, lower is fatter

can i cruise forever on 250? Should one ever stop cruiseing for a while at any point? Plan to cruise while cutting to 10% and then blast every so often. Just need to wait for my blood test on the 9th then i am not stopping

>>34930549
oops yeah kek

RIP thread

>>34930593
Yeah fuck that guy he should know better

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>>34930593
>>34930597
mybad, been a while . I deleted it . Any advice for where I should advertise?

>>34926581
this is what wingmen are for

>>34930730
My roommate already hooked up with that crazy girl a lot last year and swore her off. She tries really hard to get his attention now but hes with another girl. Pretty funny. She was sitting on his lap and taking pictures with him then he just totally shut her down that night.

>>34926709
Every year or so I end up doing that and regretting it

>>34930765
I love shutting down bitches. They think after some kissing that they can get any guy to fuck em. Nope HA! The disbelief these girls have when I reject them is priceless . much better then sex somtimes

Can a fatty and DYEL take tren and test? With proper diet and exercise is it worth it?

>>34930816
estro sides will probably be too much. Cut down

I don't think you have to be strong to get big

>>34930816
Test-enan = 150mg/week. Tren-ace = 75mg EoD. Keep aromasin on hand just in case.

Eat a -750 deficit with 150g protein. You will gain some muscle and lose plenty of fat.

If you have trouble controlling appetite or sleeping on tren, try intermittent fasting. I started 5 days ago and I'm 99% sure I'll use IF for every cut now.

>>34931362
Hey. When are you getting that there tren ace again?

>>34930816
NO. Stop being lazy

>>34928526
Heyyy I'm from Toronto too. We should lift weights or something

>>34930391
Not that poster but I am a grill thinking of an anavar only cycle. Thoughts?

>>34926484
I keep getting told I am looking bigger and stronger but I am not seeing any huge gains on roids. I do look noticeably more muscular. I am only on my third week on test E 600mg. I am ready to get some serious gains

>>34931530
Also where do you recommend buying var for someone in NA? Shoudl I worry about using a real credit card if I need to compete way down the road, or am I just being paranoid?

>>34931530
SST

>>34931672
>SST
Are you suggesting both Somatostatin and Adavar? Or just SST?

>>34930766
Ay cunt what up
>>34931530
I think it's a good idea. But I don't really know, not a grill. My gf is considering it. I think cunts wife did it.
I have like 6 grams of it, would be willing to part with a gram or two since I probably won't even use it myself .
>mods pls

Is 1inch needle fine for pinning quads

Sup /fraud/ gonna order my first cycle of dbol, test, arimidex, nolva.

How long does all this chem last?
Can i just store the shit somewhere And use it in like 6 months?

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How does someone that knows absolutely nothing about roids get into it? I've tried asking people but it never works out well

Would roids fix my weird body? I'm ashamed to even have my shirt off when I'm alone in my room

>>34931796
have you considered lifting?

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>>34931816
Every time I see natty threads, almost all of the progress pictures are people that started out with good bodies. I've always looked like this

I'm really skinny everywhere except my stomach. When completely relaxed I have a gut

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http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/11/11/watch-anti-migrant-video-going-viral-across-europe/

Someone seen this video yet? High quality propaganda

Himmler would be proud

>>34931886
lmao. Have you tried lifting?

>>34931886
Just lifting weights? No abdominal anything? Why would I lift weights to fix a weird pot belly?

>>34931919
>>34931897
Replied to wrong post

>>34931919
Because you're on a fitness forum asking stupid questions in a steroid thread. Lift weights, or keep your shit body.

>>34931796
you might be pregnant

>>34931919
you're just skinny fat as fuck m8. lifting and eating properly is the obvious fix. why the hell would you consider steroids before weight lifting?

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>>34932070
I'm scared man. I don't want to devote years to trying to be natty for it to end up being some sort of rare body abnormality that can't be fixed.

Someone once said it might be a cause of high sodium diet. Should I stop eating salty foods altogether and work out?

I've thought about just starving myself until all of my fat was gone and then starting fresh as a skeleton but I'm afraid I'd still have the belly as a skeleton.

I get treated like shit every time I come here because I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. I just want a normal body and some hint or tip for some specific workout or routine to focus on.

>>34932152
You're not special. Lose weight.

>>34932152
maybe what >>34932015 said?
not sure why that post was deleted... i guess cuz email
>Have you considered that you might have a digestive problem like IBS or Crohns? That can cause a similar bloating at low BF%. To check this you can cut out common irritating foods from your diet for a month and see if it goes away. I can write a list if you really need it... since I went through this process.

you dont need to devote years, but it least give it a shot wtf.
or just hop on roids and dont lift, fuck do i care?

>>34932167
I'm fucking underweight you moron. I'm a skeleton with a gut.

>>34932190
You still have fat you moron.

>>34932200
post 0% bf body

>>34932186
What counts as irritating foods? I've been like this since I was a little kid, always thought it was baby fat but it clearly isn't going anywhere. It's like a part of my physique. Any help is much appreciated.

>>34932200
How is it ever a good idea to lose weight if someone is already underweight?

>>34931752
yes jsut watch out for nerves in the quads

>>34932244
I'm not the guy saying to lose weight, but you're an idiot to imply fat isn't your issue

Do girls like getting dirty texts? This shit's making me horny af

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>>34931723
Reddit sst . source talk is no bueno. It's not a compound lol

>>34932299
Where'd you get that pic of Jerry?

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>>34932313
That doll is too intimidating for jerry. Must be 2d senpai

>>34932289
What is SS? How do I cut? I did not find this information in the sticky.

>>34932152
There's no such thing as spot fat reduction, if your gut really bothers you lose weight, gut will go away, stay away from stuff like milk or pasta those stuff hold water in body. Go on a no carbs diet and shit, read the sticky, research more, then after you're skelly I have no problem with you using steroids, use all you want AFTER proper research. But using steroids without knowing how to diet and train won't give you any results. baka.

>>34932380
I'll do as you say. Thanks

Why are peptides so expensive

>>34932380
I'm aware it's fat but I feel like it's water too. I drink water more than the average person. Should I drink less water?

>>34926556
Take raloxifene or tamoxifene to treat pubertal gyno, way more efficient than letro.

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>>34932218
Jesus fuck how old are you? You have the body of a 15 year old twink carrying an alien baby.

Steroids are not the answer. YET. You should have a doctor look at that shit. It could be a digestive issue causing gas or bloat. It could be your lack of general muscle and weak abs. Dieting at this point is useless. You're already in anorexia territory. Just lift weights and eat right. Add some muscle first. Do deadlifts. Then when you get a base, cut and see if the gut goes away.

If it's not a disease or bloat I think it's just your weak core causing it all to hang out. Also when you're skinny fat it's easier to look thin but carry a lot of fat in weird places.

>>34932508
totally agree with this guy

>Get superliked by average girl
>She messages first with 'How big is your dick?'
The fuck is this. Am I gonna' get mugged?

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>>34931887
Weren't you the one saying racists are dumb not too long ago

>mfw don't know what to believe in anymore

>>34932567
the fuck is superlike?
i saw that shit but never pressed it.

>>34932599
Makes them show up as #1 in your queue.

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>>34932610
It doesn't matter as long as you work in a 16 hour window of fasting into your day.

>>34932508
Thanks. This is the best advice I've ever gotten involving it.

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>>34932583
>mfw your face is a butt

>>34926699
>>34926955
>starting lifting over heartbreak
lol

>>34932846
>Self improvement instead of pity after emotional distress.
Real funni jokes lads, FUCKING HILARIOUS.

Can i eat DHEA on 19lvl? That won't downregualte my hormon system or other important things?

>>34932218
Try removing the following from your diet for a month. I know it's a long time, but it may forever answer your questions.
> spicy foods
> tomatoes
> apple peels
> beans, peas, lentils
> beer
> corn
> whole grains

I can't think of anything else for now. In any case if you do this and your stomach diminishes, then you'll know it's one of these foods. Then you can slowly add them one at a time again until you find out which it is.

>>34932846
Gotta git big
Gotta git tuff
Gotta bild my bodi

Is there any reason that high dose test should be making me HELLA lethargic? is it the increase in blood pressure? Cause srs guys sometimes im driving around town and fucking nodding off almost, it's ridiculous. Started on 500 test a couple months back and now I'm up to:

>1,050mg test
>525mg NPP


I don't know if it;s the higher test dosages or the NPP making me so fatigued. Estro is always in check, don't think it's linked to that.

Any thoughts would be appreciated. Anyone else gotten lethargic at high doses of test is also what I'd like to hear.

>>34931543
They're bout to blast off just make sure you are eating big bruh

>>34933374
I would up your AI because you're being a bitch.

>>34933374
Sounds like the bloat is jacking your bp up, why are you on a gram and a half of gear anyhow?

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>>34932583
I say always the opposite what JM says. So if he's racist, i'am not. I will proof he's wrong. That's what i do.

tfw canary you know me.

>>34933427
gh15 told me to

>>34933427
Because it's my fucking blast kent

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>>34932931
BUMP

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> picking up legal drugs from pharmacy
> ginger technician/clerk says "I like your shirt"
> basically dress slightly more casual than Gus Fring when he's in Pollo Loco

Are they forcing Walgreen's employees to compliment you now or is she DTF?

Just called up doctor to admit I'm going crazy. I'd go for any form of comfort, ginger will do.

Off cycle and off pct now. Erections seem weaker like I have to concentrate on getting and staying hard. Porn helps with getting erect but staying hard seems to be a losing battle. Dick seems less sensitive and I'm not sure what to do. Had blood work done and my test is in the normal range so why is my libido gone? Should I try no fap?

>>34933748

Also body hair and facial hair is growing (I was told to shave and wax before you start pct so you can see when fsh and your hpta have restarted) so what gives?

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>>34933748
> Off cycle and off pct now
> why is my libido gone

Really? Try Taladafil.

>>34933770

That's not what FSH does. Wrong follicles. The hair growing is a good sign, doesn't mean much short-term. You just have to be patient, allow your neurochemistry to rebalance. I would avoid dopamine agonists.

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>>34932583
> mfw I'm pro-Jew now but will continue to spread anti-semitism

>>34932931
>>34933670

Eating DHEA on 19lvl will downregualte you're hormon system and other important things. At the very least, rub it on your balls.

>>34931919
> Just lifting weights? No abdominal anything? Why would I lift weights to fix a weird pot belly?

Exercising a muscle does not build the muscle. Biochemistry builds the muscle. To look like a man, train like a man.

>>34933748
its mental..
you are thinking about having difficulty staying hard so youre not.

>>34933733
I need to stop browsing /fit/, all these fucking high test bitches make want to jack off every 5 min.

That being said, is this thread also about supplements, and if so, are there any collections or is there any consensus of with what you should supplement? As in aside from omega-3, vitamin D and creatine? I'm especially interested in whether there are any natural resources for boosting test levels

>>34933983
no..
just eat good food and youll get what you need.

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>>34934000
O-ok I'll bother another thread then.

>>34934020
Excellent tit

When is Chem going to compete? Easily the best physique on here as far as I have seen the pictures.

>>34933955
>Eating DHEA on 19lvl will downregualte you're hormon system and other important things. At the very least, rub it on your balls.
but not permamently? is it safe to eat or not?

>>34934044
no one on this board has the balls to compete, only talking shit

>>34934044
that fuck is still around?

>>34934094
>no one on this board has the balls to compete, only talking shit

noone on this board is big enough to compete in anything but some local little shit pointless comp

>>34934148
>noone on this board is big enough to compete in anything but some local little shit pointless comp

what about MasTest?

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>>34934077

About as safe as Tylenol. Does non-permanent Addison's sound good to you? It really is better to rub on your balls. I've done it. You'll need a transdermal base.

A steady dose of 25-50 mg DHEA daily is fine. Megadosing is pointless. I have no idea what 19lvl is, but it doesn't matter. You're better off in a natty thread if you want placebo-inducing details.

>>34934178
don't give him ideas, his ego is worse enough as it is

>>34934178
desu most of his "size" is just roid bloat and manlet illusion. he'd get stomped on stage

>>34933824

I thought it was fsh-LH-LC activation-test

>>34934188
I have taken notice of your posts, you seem well informed about pharmacology and medicine etc. Do you think that the research for stem cell therapy to cure baldness is real? Like replicel

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>>34934222
>desu most of his "size" is just roid bloat and manlet illusion. he'd get stomped on stage

jm, put you trip on breh


>>34934202
no, just don't do it.

>But but muh insecurtiy

The reason guys like him never compete is because they don't want to expose how much they suck when photographed in real life circumstances where they are not setting up the lights, the angles, and take as many pics as possible until getting that perfect one.

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How do you talk dirty without sounding too thirsty? I have a long history with this girl and I texted her today "been thinking about your tight ass lately." Haven't heard anything back yet, but I'm not expecting a reply cause she has a boyfriend. I just wanna make her blush.

She's supposed to be in town next week. We've never fucked, but she's blown me a couple times. I really don't wanna ask her her plans or try to hang out unless we're gonna fuck. So I want to text her something out of the blue like "I wanna grab your hair (or) [choke you] while I slide into you."

Too thirsty/dirty? Or should I just text her "Let's fuck."

>>34934362
Fite me, Mast.

>>34934409
Start by texting a girl that doesn't get fucked on a daily basis or don't say so direct shit out of the blue if you just want her blushing?
That approach works on quantity when you message 15 girls.

>>34934436
Her boyfriend's definitely not talking to her like that. That's why I figured it'd have an effect on her.

>>34934412
You can't touch me, I destroy you in any area of life, I am GOD

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> found a book that explains women

"I like your shirt" means ignore me now with a smile and maybe I'll be DTF if you ask me out later. Good to know.

>>34934254
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovarian_follicle

Hair growth is complicated and I'm having a psychosis, m8. If you haven't had steroids or HCG/etc in the last 6 months, beard growth is a good indicator that your hypothalamus is happy thus secreting LHRH, triggering your pituitary to secrete LH which triggers the production of Testosterone by your balls.

"No fap" is fine, just get your test levels checked if you manage to go 2 months.

>>34934330

Sure, but it's unnecessary. The hair follicles don't die, they're still there. Better off using that tech to regrow retinas... which makes me question the integrity of the Jews pushing it.

>>34934409

Just say whatever comes natural. Executive portion of brain ie. your mind will only fuck things up with women.

>>34934490
>Sure, but it's unnecessary. The hair follicles don't die, they're still there.

But what can I do to regrow the hair? I've been taking dutasteride for over a year, which is the most powerful anti DHT (2 types) drug on the market, and I don't see any results.

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>>34934534

DHT isn't the culprit exactly although inhibiting 5a-reductase does prevent hair loss. Mechanism involves cross-talk of intra-cellular molecules (like DHT) and a dozen growth factors.

What did duta do to your face? I don't recommend duta by the way. Gotta go.

>>34934490
naturally im inclined to say "I wanna fuck you bad."
hope it works

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>>34934490
>>34934490

Well tbqh I finished pct a month ago and only in the last few days have I experienced any issues with my dick. I was thinking it could be estro related since I've been thinking about my ex a lot. I've got facial hair and plenty of body hair so fsh is definitely working and I got bloodwork results yesterday which can back normal. I'm just concerned but I may give it 2 weeks and see how strong erections are then.

>>34934583
not sure if it did something to my face but i look like shit, like a zombie. but what can i do to grow hair? fuck don't go :-(

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>>34934604
>messaging someone randomly nice butt XD
>then more shit affter they dont reply

wow, needy man
talk to another grill, that leads dead

>>34934663
nah this girl always messages me back eventually. I'm not too worried about that.

>>34934663
You're white, aren't you

>>34934490
>clogging your brain with the wrote version of reality
>not just talking to 10,000 women until it makes sense

>>34931796
looks like have terrible digestion, what is your diet like?

>>34934715
>>34934663
What I'm saying is, white people give up too easily. There's no reason not to be a little persistent.

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>>34934809

>>34934534
I'm doing this while cutting + using little gear.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=160444941

I miss chem :(

>>34934903
>I don't know whose phone this is
kek

>>34934610
>I've got facial hair and plenty of body hair so fsh is definitely working

where did all of this come from. ive never heard this before.
get some fuckin bloodwork done its like 100 bucks

>>34934942
You could always mail him. He's hussling fraud making that moolah. I just hope he doesn't fuck it up.

>>34932583
Being racist is bad, being anti-migrant is logical.

>>34935029

Got bloodwork done and test is normal

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God damn this JM / MT war is lame
Can you guys get over yourselves
Fight outside of fraud

>>34934148
looks over at national title
looks at thread and laughs
closes computer and is off to train

>>34929596
isn't that bart's program?

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>>34933983
Muh natty stack:

Baby aspirin
400mg Quercitin
500mg Vitamin B3
400mg CoQ10
5g Vitamin C
500mg NAC
1g ALCAR
200mg R-ALA
4g Taurine
3g Fish oil
500mg Magnesium
1g Agmatine
2 Multis

>>34935270
"I don't hate black people, I just don't want them in my country"

>>34935525
u took that before going fraud?

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>>34935557
No, I take that now but form part of the things I take that aren't considered fraud

You wouldn't need half of those things if you aren't roiding

>>34935525
I need to get on the taurine for dem dere back pumps.

They've been bearable but still annoying.

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