/frauds/ general

These mods str8 h8ers

>>34919230
fo'sho

How many scoops should I inject a day?

>>34919272
I hope you get a blood clot that kills you.

This shit was never funny

>>34919300
shit man is injecting scoops really that bad? Can I get blood clots from them? I just want to get big mang, CMON

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>>34919272
>not mainlining the whole tub.

Piana would be disappointed

Turk knock your shit off edition

>>34919548
Don't h8 bby

>>34919210
Thought mods outlawed fraud threads earlier when I saw none in the catalogue.

Mods confirmed for dyel naruto trap loving fuccbois

How am I suppoused to train on gear?

250 mg E3D test-e does this allow me to handle alot more volume? Should I still train 3 times a week or more?

I can't find any good info regarding this. Also what if i did deca or anavar? How does this change the way I train?

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>>34919590
No, they only said no sourcing. And honestly if you can't find it yourself you're probably not too intelligent

>>34919715
My own expiernce;

More reps, slow reps and pause reps. KEEP THE TENSION

Hit all your weakpoints at least 2 times a week.

Test is all you need. Deca is shit

>Should I still train 3 times a week or more?

You should always train 5 times a week. Even when you're off cycle. Who trains 3 times a week?

More reps when you're on cyle. When you're off cycle i would not do it.

>>34919715
You don't need to train on gear, steroids do everything for you

>>34919760

Ive been doing mad cow for a while now so it's been 3 times a week

I'm not looking to continue the powerlifting route so thats why I'm asking. Should I not just do PPLxPPLx....?

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Protip: dont ever go off cycle
Pic1: 2 weeks before I came off
Pic2: straight after pct
Inb4 no chest, tore my pec and right shoulder joint so I could barely work out my chest

>>34919828
You look bigger in the second

>>34919828

>Inb4 no chest, tore my pec and right shoulder joint so I could barely work out my chest

Then why the fuck would you post a pic of it? Looks like you made 0 gains during your cycle now

>>34919828
2/10 troll

unless you're cycling creatine

>>34919846
>>34919851
I went on and injured myself more or less instantly and came off after being on for 10ish weeks, I was cutting but all my lifts went through the roof

>>34919825
Just do what i said. change your routine every 8 weeks.

>>34919828
I see no difference. You're fatter and softer.

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I've been cutting for 2 months now, natty, came off 4 months ago
Considering going back on or try sarms and igf and peptides etc

>>34919828
It looks like a diet problem on your end.

You have the same muscle mass but have 1-2% more bf in second pic.

>>34919828
The only thing you stopped cycling was a bike, fatty

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>>34919879
Well I guess that's a compliment but gaining that much fat in a month fucking sucked

>>34919902
Didn't up my calories, ate at maintenance during pct, my estro probably fucked me over>>34919903
Kek

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>>34919891
>igf and peptides etc
lmao. Are you serious? No offense, but you look like a natty that just started.

I looked bigger than you when i just started to lift some dumbells. No routine and just eating fast food.

Again; no offense, but you need to check your diet etc. Before hoping on gear or other crap.

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>>34919828
>roiding for this

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25y/o, 5'7" lean 165lb.
my 1 rep maxes are: squat 350lb, bench 245, DL 365, OHP 135, clean 245, snatch 145.

test-e 400mg/week for 16 weeks.

want to run var as well. I could do 75/mg ED for about 4 weeks (or 50mg for 7 weeks).

PCT / tits control is: HCG and arimidex

my question is, when should I run the var? during the beginning of my cycle, or near the end?

also, how often should I take the arimidex? HCG is for two weeks after i'm done pinning.

>>34919920
Well it's all good dude.

Shirtless season isn't for a while so stick at maintenance and cut hard in the spring

>>34919930
You take hcg during cycle not pct

It's useless once your testes already are shrunken

>>34919921
Lmao yes im serious, grats on being bigger than me, I count calories and so cardio but atm I really just want to cut bodyfat and then focus om making gains, cant make any gains on a cut while natty anyway

>>34919922
Yeh, 10 weeks minus the 4 week enth kick in time>>34919937
My plan exactly

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>>34919930

third question: what's a good routine to run on this? I was thinking Texas Method.

>libido gains tanked
>suddenly don't feel the urge to deal with girls shits
>suddenly don't feel like standing that ugly as fuck girl bullshit
>suddenly don't feel like replying to everyone that talks to me
I'm a bit sad but not being a thirsty ass nigga feels good.

>>34919930
Var is shit-tier. Do dbol or anadrol. I prefer test-p

1-4 test p(100eod)
1-16 test-e(500-900)
17-19 test p (100eod)
pct

hcg is during cycle. Some do in pct. Don't know much about it.

armidex; 0.5 eod from the start

routine; >>34919760

I'm cutting on clen atm, currently on day 4 on 40mg, about to go up to 80mg.

I'm supplementing with taurine, magnesium, vitamins, bcaas and shakes and shit

Not feeling any sides yet.

Going to do 2 weeks on 2 weeks off. How much can I expect to lose over 2 weeks? I'm pretty fat atm (6'2, 275lbs) and I've already lose 19lbs over past 5/6 weeks anyhow.

Also, is there anything else I should be taking/doing?

I'm doing around 30 minute cardio every session (6/7 days a week, no cardio on leg day) and weightlift every session too. I also walk to the gym (2 miles)

>>34919951

if i use the HCG during cycle, what should my PCT be?

>>34919991

thanks! as far as time I can probably lift 4x a week. I usually do low-medium intensity cardio for about an hour 3x/week

>>34919957
My advice;

Don't touch gear anymore, before you have a decent base.

Eat more. You can gain enough off cyle.

>>34919964
The rule to follow when adjusting your routine after introducing anabolics is adding 10-20% volume and nothing else.
Don't completely change routines or switch everything from 3x5 to 5x12.

>>34919991
>or
>not and

>>34919980
We've found the cure for being a thirsty ass nigga

Someone tell that guy

>>34920020
isn't HIIIT a lot better for fat loss?
I think the downside is that it crushes your energy and body too. someone please correct me.

>>34920047
I am THAT guy.

>>34920020
Nothing. All depends on your diet.

Clen is shit. Eat less carbs and take a legal fatburner to suppress hunger.

>>34920050
i thought about doing hiit but I honestly hate jogging/running with a passion, hence why i do 30-45minute walking on treadmil (or untill i hit 3-4 miles walked)

>>34920064
I fucking hate sprints now for some reason ruins my legs.
So I usually do full body HIIT sessions.

>>34920064
How can you hate running?

>>34920024
Nolva and clomid. If you're too cheap for both then go with nolva.

Continue ai as well. With adex I used .5mg e3d. With asin 12.5mg Ed.

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>>34920060
thought about doing ketosis but it generally kills me, do not mind doing it for a litle while longer with a little slower gains

diet is the same thing everyday - pic related. There is some variation between lunchs but it all generally remains between 1500-2000 cal

>>34920073
hurts me knees tbf
>>34920077
just feels shit, i imagine I might like it when i'm leaner but for now i'd rather save my knees for squats and not have shinsplints

>>34920059
Well then I'm proud of you son

>>34920101
Seems alright i guess.

But you're only eating 3 times a day?

And again; don't waste any more money of those shakes. baka

also; oats & eggs > bread imo.

Oats + eggs is the best bb breakfast. There is no better.


cottage cheese has also pretty good macro's imo

>>34920101
How fat are we talking here?

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Cabergoline a shit. Have tried it for a month now. Went up to 2 mg then tapered off. It's useless for anything other than hyperprolactinemia or other specific medical uses.

> no multiple orgasms
> orgasms not better
> useless for ADD
> don't feel right at greater dosage
> suppresses GH
> nothing for trensomnia
> no appetite on Tren
> damages heart valve

2/10, do not recommend.

>>34920157
also some good fats: natural peanut butter, olive oil,almonds, other nuts.

>>34920157
Thanks. I might have a snack now and again or another shake but that's pretty much it, I drink tons of pepsi max though.

Oats and Eggs sounds glorious but I'm honestly a lazy shit and I think it would be harder to count those calories over bread.

I actually replaced cottage cheese with that Skyr yogurt, but I might bring it back as a bed time snack.

>>34920159
I'm 6'2, 275lbs. I'm wide as fuck and have been lifting for about 3/4 years now, my numbers are peasant level but they're pretty much equalling some of the top lifters in the gym.

Don't really know how low I should be cutting down to.

>>34920204
210 lbs.

>>34920086

danke!

>>34920040

solid. I like my current routine, I'll just add volume. thanks

>>34920204
I remember being 165 LBS and being on the top lifters of my gym. Not even on roids tho since I looked like shit.
Never understood how that happened.

>>34920257
my gym has a ton of regulars, but there's a few of us at the top in terms of strength who all have similar lifts, and we all want to tbe the strongest in the gym. Healthy competition man, it's awesome.

>>34920295
>Healthy competition man, it's awesome
Wish I knew about that, 90% of the guys on my old gym are cunts or fuckbois.
I had a guy counting my reps while I was doing a bench press.

Could someone please give me a rundown on which peptides are good anabolics and how the work? I want to incorporate some into my first cycle (test and Dbol) but I dont know which ones. also could I just use SERMs by themselves?

>>34920322
I only guest at gyms with friends once in a while, but all except for the elite athlete once seem filled with fuckboiis. I get pissed watching people dump empty - 90 lbs bars from head height when doing presses.

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Hi /fraud/, I've got one question: Are you more likely keep more gains after an inyectable cycle of test than a just oral one or is just the same? (If I still dont want to blast&cruise).
ty

>>34920322
it's alright tbf. there is some tension though, one of the guys is a jackass and thinks he's the bad boy of the gym with his lifts, always trying to sneak diss

examples

>talking to him about benching
>mentions his maxes of 120kg
>asks me and my gym buddy mine
>gym buddy 140kg, me 145kg
>he says 'yeah, well I ALWAYS do pause reps, don't count otherwise guys' with this shit eating grin

mfw me and my gym buddy next trained chest, he was there, and we pause repped 130kg and 140kg for reps in front of him

said the same sort of shit about squatting and yadda yadda. other guys are generally cool tho, can tell they like the competition.

>>34920349
I hate watching cheat bicep curls, I swear every big guy in my gym does them.

>>34920374
You're more likely to keep more gains after an oral cycle, because you won't gain any. Keeping nothing is easy.

>>34920400
I'm okay with people doing 3 sets or so. When they have 5 different kinds of curls I laugh.

>>34920412
Are you telling me a trenavar+superdrol only cycle wont do anything?
rlly

>>34920426
It make you sleep 14 hours, because your organs are taking all your energy to attempt repairing themselves, I suppose.

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Man beach is fun. Girls who work on a ship and will leave soon start talking to me

>are you one of those guys who knows he's gorgeous or are you more down to earth

Ego, pls

>>34920482
Jokes on her you're both

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>>34920509
Oooh, thanks anon :·3

>>34920434
Wont happen that with 500 test-e?

>>34920482
>tfw ugly

>>34920547
Will your liver start to melt? No.

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>>34920020
Cutting with intermittent fasting is pretty easy and actually enjoyable so far. And there are tons of science-based fat loss and health benefits.

Anyway. You should NOT use clen at 275lbs. Clen is to touch up the stubborn fat areas and you don't even need more than 40mg/day for the effects. It is being completely wasted right now.

Cut out wheat and dairy for health reasons. More sweet potatoes, beans(soak them first), and healthy fats like avocados, walnuts, almonds, hemp hearts, chia seeds, and coconut oil. Add vegetables like carrots, broccoli, and cooked spinach. Better health = better fat loss and lasting fat loss.

All you need is to keep doing what you're doing and have patience. And you will get to minimal body fat.

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>>34920762
>you don't even need more than 40mg/day for the effects
I wonder if you wouldn't just drop dead on that dosage

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>>34920801
Oh you got me

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>>34920827
Not trying to make fun of you for a silly mistake. You obviously know about clen dosaging.

Just want to avoid some fatty somehow downing 40mg of clen

Cruising is soooo shit

Those of you who have been on tren forever
Your face is fatter than you think
Wait until you come off
Watching the sexy recede is making me want to cry

>>34920482
show face.
>inb4 doxx. it's a myth

i'am coming to that beach

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>>34921049
>i'am coming to that beach
Pls no rape

how long after your first pin of test do you feel a difference in your workouts / in general?

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This isn't mossad. Seems like I have a different experience with Tren each time. Not sure it's the Tren...

> very anxious since last night (20 hours post injection)
> psychosis (apologies for anything crazy I posted)
> little sleep last night (insomnia, half-awake state)
> visual hallucinations while awake, before falling asleep, good graphics, scary shit, faces
> dim areas of light pulsating across visual field
> full control of dreams, spent time with one year older girl from HS, shannon
> always liked shannon but she was too mature for me at the time and practically engaged to a Jewish friend
> she broke it off with him immediately before graduation (lol) and got involved with an art student, probably shooting heroin in an alley today
> in dream, took over general store of home town (small town in mountains), running a cash register is difficult AF, leave store for whatever reason, meanwhile a dead art teacher drops off 20 kids for a class
> dead art teacher is pissed that I'm unprepared for this, get dressed in white coat, enter general store, 20 desks have appeared in middle with 20 3rd graders
> introduce self to class, tell art teacher to piss off, ask each student their name, favorite colour, and to tell me the most interesting thing they can in less than 20 words, emphasizing on the keeping it short (which will be ignored)
> it's 7 am, fully awake

> still anxious and on edge
> hands ice cold
> pop a DNP capsule to raise blood sugar

Seems to be getting better. I'm used to madness and have control over it. Regardless, need to figure out what is interacting with what.

>>34921071
Yeah, i'am gonna lick each high test butthole

>>34920997
I know man. Tren is like a diuretic. Different than mast or winstrol.

>>34921178
Staying carbed up all the time helps me. And tren goes through carbs fast. Sweet potatoes are best for stable blood sugar.

>>34921178
Jesus

>>34921264
:(
Test solo till the winters done
What's the point of even living
How's bidness

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>>34920997
>>34921264
>Your face is fatter than you think
Them no glorious tren face feels

>>34921324
Fine. Someone said they'd post blood work soon so I get verified on reddit. And a restock + NPP & deca are coming soon.

>>34921364
You're still a fucking nigger though.

>>34919957
>Yeh, 10 weeks minus the 4 week enth kick in time

Haha nigga celebrating getting smacked in the face with a football
>>34921359
Decided to shave
When the fuck did I get all this face

>>34921364
How do you even find the sources info on Reddit
I went back like 10 pages

Apparently you're a fucking nigger
You forget you're on 4chan sometimes

>>34921541
>Apparently you're a fucking nigger
>You forget you're on 4chan sometimes
brap brap, senpai

Week 3 of MK-677:
Weight: Up 1-2lbs after the initial 5lb bloat gain, sitting at 210lbs now up from ~205lbs.

>Bench: Up 20lbs, can now rep 225x3 instead of 225x1
>Squat: Up 50lbs
>OHP: Up 10lbs
>DL: Havent been training, but up about 10lbs

Pros:
>Skin is better, but not as good as when I first started
>Sleep is still good
>Joints feel good
>Well being is up, social anxiety is down
>Set a new PR in every lift this week
>Muscle fullness is noticeable, people clearly mirin


Cons:
>Running a 5dayon/2dayoff cycle, and the 2 off cycle fucking sucks. I literally feel like shit for the entire weekend, which makes me want to drink, which makes me feel worse. I'm really not hungry during the weekend either, which sucks on a bulk.
>Pulled the absolute fuck out of my back on a warm-up 185lb front squat today, couldn't even fucking talk it hurt so much
>Going off of MK-677 so frequently is wrecking havok on my CNS
>Libido is slightly down, but I don't really care


Overall I love MK-677. Datbtrue seems to advise heavily against chronic ghrelin agonists like MK-677, so I'm forcing myself on a 5dayon/2dayoff cycle to help cleanse my body of MK and minimize the potential for GH bleed. But I absolutely fucking hate going off of it. My body is constantly fluctuating, and this new injury might be the final straw. Still have more than half a bottle left, might start increasing the dosage from 25mg to ~30mg to see how I feel.

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>>34921264

Sweet potatoes are the shit. How do you cook them, just bake them whole? Mash em? Everytime I heat them up; I no longer want them by the time they're done. Clearly I'm being a lazy idiot.

Suspecting that I feel better (more 'alive') on low-dose DNP than anything else. Have to fast until about 4 pm everyday or I feel like shit, but can eat until about ti burst after and feel fine (aside from the bursting). It's not diabetes or anything obvious, probably related to narcolepsy/hypersomnia.

Have you any ideas, JJ? I'm really at a loss, this has been going on for a decade, no correlation with diet or fitness.

>>34921268

Don't do as I do.

>>34921609
i love sweet potatoes but i'm too lazy to cook them
>>34921364
have you found dnp yet?

Anyone have Experience with MK-677? what did you stack it with? do you need PCT for it?

>>34921676
Nigga
>>34921602

man i'm feeling down like a clown charlie brown

baka

the struggle is so fucking shit

always working baka

this fucking blows

need to win the lottery baka

find out on linkedin one of my ex class mates, ass hole russian, did bachelors in slavic languages (probably easy as chit for him) and then did a 40,000 euro general management masters in an expensive business school

this is when i realized his family is rich as fuck

this also when i realized he's a director now in a company for russian software, probably owned by his family

this is when i hate my life baka

>>34921792
>baka
>baka
>baka

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>>34921602
>>Running a 5dayon/2dayoff cycle
Y? That seems like allot of unnecessary hormones swings.

>>34921878

baka
a
k
a

>>34921871
you could of been some sick doctor giving lectures for 1000 euro each but you got lazy and decided to work in a warehouse with minimal education.
>>34921955
is mk677 even a hormone?

>>34920204
>but I'm honestly a lazy shit and I think it would be harder to count those calories over bread.
There is no need go count imo.

bread is shit tier. Get oats or rice for carbs

>>34921792
Do you even have happiness in your life? Or only depression?

>>34921602
Wait why are you cycling it? isnt it supposed to be safe? im fairly sure that having all those hormone fluctations isnt good for you.

>tfw sunday
>tfw libido not that high so not sure if fapping is worth a try
>tfw nothing to do
Time to hit the steel, what are you doing fellow /frauds/ today?

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>>34921974
iirc its several drugs that are chemically similar to illegal orals like anavar. It hasn't been made illegal, because no ones gotten around to it yet.

But I could be mistaken.

>>34921974
i dont work in a warehouse, fucking moron

>>34922066
Mail room

>>34922066
Forklift operator or whatever fancy title you can come up with then

>>34921665
I went with DMP.

>>34921420
If you're waiting on the asin, it's still on its way.

>>34921541
lol

And I should be on the front page atm.

>>34922066
He work in a factory

>>34922066
petstore

>>34922066
complaining about not being a boss
complaining about friend being a boss
friend did what his dad did
could of been a boss if did what dad did
dad is a boss

you chose to ignore that point and instead call me a moron because i don't know what your job it?

>>34922051
Cardio, 20 hour fast, reading the internet, and making test. Probably gonna watch a movie when my fast breaks in an hour.

Not much. My friends are either addicted to school or alcohol atm.

>>34922144
No no.
He's a janitor at a school for the mentally disabled. Except he goes to the chalkboard and solves their ultrahard equations for them.

>>34922066
shoestore

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>>34922096

You are aware there are more than just manual labor jobs in factories right?

>>34921955
>>34922014
Datbtrue compiled a very thorough and complete list of studies about MK-677, and concluded that chronic ghrelin activators (MK-677), as opposed to acute ghrelin activators (pinned GH) can be bad for you. The wording was a bit hazy, and the results were extrapolated a bit, but basically reiterated the fact that GH bleed is really bad for your body.

However, the studies are preliminary, and the negative long term effects are just extrapolations of short term effects. The year long study of MK-677 still stands though, so I wouldn't rule it out. However, the FDA has decided against furthering MK-677 for potential usage on humans, mostly because it has no beneficial effects towards Alzheimer's or the like, but take that as you will.

>>34921974
It's not a hormone, but it directly activates the pituitary to release more growth hormone. It also increases IGF levels by a ridiculous amount before tapering off.

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How much roid to get pic related?

>>34922193
>You are aware there are more than just manual labor jobs in factories right?

Oh come on JM.

Who do you think you're fooling pretending you do anything more than Physical Labor? That's all you're good for.

>>34922066
shoe cleaner

>>34922094
if i were a forklift operator i would have killed myself a long time ago

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>>34922205
At least 1kg of test and 2kg of tren

>>34922057
Not true. You are thinking of SARMs, such as Ostarine, or LGD-4033. MK-677 is a GH secretagogue, i.e. a drug that activates the pituitary to release more growth hormone.

>>34922205
That's GH + slin territory

>>34922205
3 roid

>>34922205
500 test cycles with pct and off periods

>>34922166
lmao. Isn't he also mentally disabled?

best cardio is shadowboxing.
Prove me wrong

>>34922268
>lmao. Isn't he also mentally disabled?

Well he has a dent on his head, doctors are unsure of how much it affected his intelligence but at least ~20 IQ points are certain.

samefagging like the end of time ITT

>>34920762
>>34920020
>Clen
>40mg a day
>mg
Are you fucking kidding me? You idiots clen is dosed at mcg, and you should be running it at 120mcg a day for decent effect(gradual dose increase over a few days)
And not at fucking 275lbs, clen is there to help you get rid of the last 1-2% bf that just doesnt want to go while cutting natty.

>>34922297
Is your dent causing delusions as well?

Seek the help of a qualified doctor, we worry for you.

>>34922285
>Well he has a dent on his head,
kekkk, that gets me evertime

>>34921676
I'm >>34921602 if you want to ask me anything. I didn't stack it with anything except a multivitamin and melatonin. You don't need a PCT, because it's not androgenic. About 5% of users have an initial prolactin increase, but neither me or my buddy have seen any nipple senstivity or puffiness.

>>34922051
Gonna inject this test and then text some honeys. Recovery day today so I'll probably just gut out a mile or two jogging.
>tfw haven't been laid in almost 2 months

>>34920374
If pct correctly and use hcg on cycle go for test e

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>>34922345
>tfw haven't been laid in almost 2 months
I'm feeling you right now my negro.

>>34922345
>>34922363
>>tfw haven't been laid in almost 2 months

>Tfw haven't been laid in 20 years
lol tbqh fuck my life tbqh

>>34922233
That's almost the same job as your current.

>>34922363
My weiner can only take so much masturbation. Soon enough I'm getting a honey to take care of those issues for me though. Just gotta be patient

>>34921609
>>not microwaving your tates

>>34922095
not waiting on anything, just wanted to irrationally call you a nigger

>>34922379
>tfw last time I really fell in love with someone was 3 years ago
JUST ;_;

is this mastest who took his trip off and is having an autistic attack of samefag against me again?

if not him, some other guy who lost his marbles

there just arent that many anons on here it's only possible that it's one person always spazzing out

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>>34922305
Typo.

Here's what an endo told me about clen. Keep in mind he's 225lbs, <10%, 56 years old, and 5'9". You can run clen even as low as 40mcg EoD. It's supposed to just target the stubborn fat, not really be a thermogenic at this dose. And even though the half life isn't that long it's still active after 2 days.

120mcg will produce a thermogenic effect though.

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>>34922442
>The man with the dent thinks he's so important

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>>34922398
>My weiner can only take so much masturbation.
>>34922398

Naw it's cool after a while, you build up dick callouses.

>>34922442
I think it's always the same guy.

>>34921602
I have been on mk-677 for 17 consecutive days now. Only noticed a marked increase in apetite. Lively dreams, so much so that I have horribly bad sleep since i am on. No change as for skin. Muscle fullness does seem greater. Slight increase on my lifts but nothing really amazing.

Reading your gains story I am wondering if the Chinese sold me underdosed or bunk.
How long have you been lifting ? Because I have been 3 years more or less consistently and wasn't expecting huge gains if I hadn't taken it these few weeks either.

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>>34922256
>>34922260
>>34922261
>>34922267
Kthx

>>34922444
What do you mean the half life isn't long? It's something like 32 hours if I remember correctly. I agree that a lower dose at his age should be possible, depends on what his heart can take but I really believe clen works its wonders at doses high as tolerable (no higher than 120mcg tho )
Run at short periods for no longer than 1,5 or 2 weeks. The receptors wear out fast, but recovery is fast as well.

i think i will get shredded as fuck since i'm not doing enough gear to grow anyway

gonna starve myself and do fucking bullshit cardio until i am shredded to pieces

>>34922712
Fix your dent first familia tbqh

>>34922552
Try dosing 5mg of melatonin before you go to bed. Helps you go to sleep, and stay asleep. Melatonin is also a somatostatin inhibitor, which is a GHRH inhibitor, making it perfect for getting the full MK-677 pulse increase effects at night.

I've been working out for about 6 months, and I started a serious powerlifting routine when I started MK. In my experience, MK should not be classed in the same category as LGD or AAS, because it doesn't really make you stronger. What it does do, is help a lot with recovery, allows you eat more, and makes you sleep really well. My buddy tells me he has nightmares on MK, but I've not found that to be the case, I've only had hyper realistic good dreams.

guys who blast and cruise

did any of you jump on and stay on right away? or did you do a few cycles and then finally decided you were going to stay on?

>>34922863
decided i was going to b&c before i even started

>>34922863
I started out saying I was going to do a cycle unless I really liked it, then I would stay on.
Turns out I really liked it.

wheres that /fraud/ wiki link? the one with the reccomended cycles?

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>>34922863
B&C right away, but bought PCT just in case cause you never know what might happen.

Sup guys, milf stayed at mine last night, fucked the her 4x times, condom broke twice, she got stroppy when I asked her to take the morning after pill. I said I'd buy it, went to the pharmacy and my card got declined because i had no money left.....Fml. She bought it and was even more pissed. Went home fucked her again and came on her tits. I've had a pack of Jaffa cakes and 2x burgers all day.

How's your day been?

>>34922947
You're giving me anxiety man

>>34922979
Neh she's on the pill as well

>>34922947
>fuck girl 4+ times
>girl still mad
what the fuck my man

>>34922947
mirin
life of kings
>>34922944
how long do pct meds last?

>>34922947
you need to give us a trigger warning

some of us are kissless virgins

>>34922784
Yeah I'm already on 3mg melatonin a day. I am getting nights of 5-7 hours sleep usually, even tho I make sure I have 8-9 hours when I go to bed. I use dph or phenibut once or twice a week to get a good nights sleep. I have to say despite the less sleep I do feel really normal during the days not sleepy at all after the first few hours in the morning.
Alright I can understand where your strength gains are coming from. I have to say the effect on recovery for me seems only small, I still get DOMS like I did before and I cant say I can increase my volume by a lot, maybe a little.
I am keeping a log of this, will run it for a full month and then evaluate if its worth it.
I do notice the increased appetite and have gained around 1,5-2 kg on it so far (also most in the first week). The appetite increase is great for bulking. Eating big feels so natural.

Gonna run a lgd cycle after this for 8 weeks and also keep a log of it (5mg ed with nolva PCT)

>>34923016
Sorry breh

>>34922995
>don't believe her lies

>>34923048
Lol :(

>>34923020
What dose are you running?

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In4 baby Cheekys

>>34922442
1. That's what you always do
2. I have promised my fraud breh's i'am not gonna bully you anymore, inside /fraud/

i'am a reasonable guy, you know me. kek

>>34923107
Mastest has honor within /fraud/ but outside these walls JM is not safe

>>34923118
>>34923107
Respect the house of /fraud/

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>>34923118
>>34923137
anon has spoken.

>>34923011
Of course she's mad she just fucked Cheeky lel

>>34923205
Ayy
She settled

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Hey guys, I had a few questions if you didn't mind answering them?

I was thinking of becoming a /fraud/ in a few months, and I'm not sure where to start. Can you guys point me towards some pastebin or book or resource I can read up on so that I can get into it safely? Not looking for a hookup, just some information I can read so I don't go into it uniformed. I'm looking to do this as safely and smartly as possible.

Bit of background, I'm 18, been lifting for around 2 years. I ended up hitting 1/2/3/4 around half a year ago and have been stagnant since then since. First I got an injury outside of the gym that set me back and made me have to climb back up, and now I just got out of a really bad month long sickness that made me lose a lot of weight and progress. Just starting to get back into it and climb towards my old numbers a few weeks after sickness.

I've always been interested about steroids and wanted to take it to the next level, but I'm just not sure where to start.

Is it expensive? How much would a beginner be spending a week if they're not looking for anything too expensive or amazing, just something to give me an edge in progress and development?

I'm not worried about closing my growth plates or not growing any more, I've been 5'11 for 3 years now and I haven't grown even a quarter of an inch this whole time.

>>34923240
>I'm 18
Don't do it senpai

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>>34923213
She's married.

Hard to believe but yeah, someone cheated on a dude with Cheeky

>>34922947
Still waiting for your cb pics.

>>34923240
>I'm 18
wat untill your 21 imo

>been lifting for around 2 years
3/4 years of decent lifting seems alright.

>Is it expensive?
vial of test is maybe $20-40 for 10ml

You probably need like 4-6 vials for a cycle. You also can get a kickstart(recommend, because test-e takes 4 weeks to work). Could be dbol or another oral(don't know the price)

What is your height? stats etc? do you have a cb picture.

Sunday night feels brehs

But tomorrow morning I will have my morning chat with bald bid manager

He said to me "bald is beautiful" when laughing at a poster of a bald man

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>>34923311
F I X Y O U R D E N T

>>34923311
>bald bid manager
>He said to me "bald is beautiful"

Yeah, i can see why.

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do i look like i lift yet guiz?

>>34923066
I am weighing off around 30mg, Chinese said its >98% purity but I don't think so since I paid around 40€ per gram. I think in reality I am underdosing 25mg by a little. So I guess I am at around 20mg a day, but since I can't be sure for now I am stickig with my 30mg for this month. Maybe later I will try higher dosages and see if it brings something more.

I did run lower dosage of only 5mg at first just incase I had any adverse reactions, but already noticed the appetite increase on even that small dose, so I know it can't be too impure either.

>>34923348
Your upper body does, but my natty legs are bigger than yours. (Just not taller fml senpai)

>>34923341
I know it's you asshole mastest

>>34923348
how to get vascular

>>34923348
honest; upper body looks great and thick
legs looks a bit smaller in this pose.

>>34923348
probably one of the most unflattering pictures i've seen of you.

>>34922947
>condom broke twice

I hope you got the hint to change brands, m8

>>34923376
Anonymous 11/15/15(Sun)22:37:32 No.34923341

MasTest !LLERw62FIE 11/15/15(Sun)22:38:22 No.34923347

You see the response time. You know that you have to wait before each post?

I gave my word. I'am a man of my word

>>34923310
>>34923310
>>34923281

>Don't do it senpai
>wat untill your 21 imo

You guys think so? There's a lot of younger guys at the gym I go to who are on a lot of gear and they seem healthy enough. What are the risks of starting at a young age? If they'll fuck me up then I'll obviously wait until I'm older. Like I said, I understand that there's side effects and it's not that safe in general but I would like to go about it in as smart of a way as possible. I know that I want to use them someday, so the question isn't of "if" but "when."

>You probably need like 4-6 vials for a cycle.
How long is a cycle then? Around 4-6 weeks?

$120-240 for 6 weeks doesn't seem too bad actually provided you had a pretty stable income and the fact that you're not on it the full year.

>What is your height? stats etc? do you have a cb picture.

No picture with me currently, but my stats are-

OHP: 150
Bench: 215 lbs
Squat: 335
Deadlift:405

BW: 183@5'11, something like 18% bf I think.

>>34923389
i think the opposite

looks like an animal

just no light on the legs

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>>34923348
I always get sad when I see you.

Such a dedicated person being so unfortunate with his waist genetics. It's nearly Chemfag chest tier.

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>>34923376
>I know it's you asshole mastest

>>34923284
>someone cheated on a dude
>hard to believe
Right

>>34923433
kek

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>>34923427
Dude when did u take these pictures?

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>>34923437
Cheated on a dude WITH CHEEKY

Dude must be bald.

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>>34923366
>my natty legs are bigger than yours

what is lighting

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>>34923457

>>34923418
a vial lasts 5 weeks at a blast dose of 500mg per week.
you should definitely cut tho, trust me. someone who started at a similar BF%. if i could go back i'd of put it off and cut first.

>>34922947
wtf how big is your roid clit that you need a condom and morning after pills?

>>34923448
Girl must be bald

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>>34923457
Too bad your natty head is more dented than everyone's

>You guys think so?
i have read it somewhere. But then again; i think that mossad guy knows a lot more than me about this subject.

>How long is a cycle then? Around 4-6 weeks?
A cycle is around 14-16 weeks.

e.g.;

1-4 dbol/or another oral(40 mg each day)
1-14/16 test e(start with 500mg, can be upped to 750mg)

pct
4-6 weeks nolva
40/20/20/20/20 etc.

or cruise 250 test-e after your last shot.

Your height seems alright. I don;t know where you live, but 5'11 is still manlet over here.

18% bodyfat is way too much. Cut at least to 10% bf. You will have less estrogen sides and you will look better.

>>34923499
this is mastest he posted the exact same pics before

>>34923512
No it's not

I just googled "Man with dented head", there is very limited pictures of such deformities

>>34923512
dude. are you retarted?

Anonymous 11/15/15(Sun)22:53:21 No.34923499

MasTest !LLERw62FIE 11/15/15(Sun)22:53:34

Look at the time.

>>34923512
nah breh, obv mastest posting from mobile and pc at same time.

>>34923529
Are you retarded, you can get round that very easily.

>>34923520
i think he thinks, i secretly take pictures from guys with dents in their heads and post them on /fraud/ ,to bully him.

Only i can have those pictures.

>>34923547
or just 2 different browsers at the same time

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that dent shit is stale. But then again; i lie all the time guys. why should you believe me?

remember the ''natty pics''. kek

>>34923566
dubs confirm you stalk dentheads

>>34923590
>dubs confirm you stalk dentheads

Haven't they been thrown enough?

It's bad enough to have 20 IQ less on average and repulsing every woman outside of tranny hideous Thai ladyboys or whatever that monster was that JM kept posting.

>>34923590
lmao. That would be a crazy fetish. Dent in head fetish.

You think it exist? We have crazy ppl on 4chan. It's possible.

i have read some crazy shit around here.

>>34923431
>I always get sad when I see you.

try looking in the mirror

>>34923588
>remember the ''natty pics''.
i don't know what to believe anymore

someone shop mastest on the polaroid picture of "don't believe his lies" from that one movie with the guy who has amnesia.

>>34923617
Dent fetish is not that far fetched
I mean people poop and piss on eachother

mastest mad as fuck because jm is taller than him

>in b4 he "proved" to be 6'

>>34923612
>not liking ladyboys
wow how gay can you get

>>34923617
someone somewhere has that fetish I bet lol

Are whey and mass gainers worth the money when on roids?
Also obligatory "we still all friends right?"

>>34923646
that could be it guys. Maybe i have amnesia, and i just forgot whether i was natty or not at that time.

>>34923689
Yeah, i'am still mad about that. Goddamit, i hate my life

>>34923685
>>34923693
Kek, yeah i know. Or people who have are sexiual attracted to buildings

>>34923348
there is abolutely no way this guy isn't significantly taller than mastest

Does /fraud/ like making friends? do you guys have friends?

What is MK-677?

>>34923746
tfw my best friend and i are going through a rocky part in our relationship.
haven't talked in almost a month.
>>34923748
gh releasing oral peptide.

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>>34923348

>>34923844
not seeing it

>>34923844
mastest YOU are the manlet here that's why you are suddenly so fixated on jm's height

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Does sibutramine pop on drug tests as anything?

>>34923874
Why do you blame for posting as anon.

Of course, i have all reasons to lie. Aren't you aware of my insecurities? s.m.h breh.

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>that first bulking meal after a cut

>>34923720
theyre stupid imo
but whey can be a nice fallback if youve fucked up your macros for the day

>>34923646
Wants that movie Memento or some shit close to that

>>34923896
your midget arms are not fooling anyone, desperate manlet

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Its a good day not to be a dent headed manlet guise.

>>34923844
What are we supposed to see?

>>34923918
Yeah, you're right. My arms are pretty big, so the make me manlet. Life's hard on a nigga when you're living like an ogggg

Keep em coming jm

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What the fuck I said earlier we don't fight within the walls of /fraud/
S M H T B H F A M

>>34923958
you have short midget arms, not big arms

Hey guys I keep getting random boners and I'm afraid that I've picked up a bad habit of sexually harassing women. Should I up the test?

>>34923975
Face it, MT is just a rotten apple. We need to get rid of him.

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>>34923916
yes that's the one
mastest post your face picture so someone can shop it onto this

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>>34923981
I was looking at some pictures from my arm(no boner this time). And i could understand why you see them as manlet arms.

The muscle is filling everything so correctly. It's just scary, almost.. manlet. shiitt breh'

>>34924020
What do you usually blast?

>>34924020
Post penis

>>34924055
10mg creatine for 16 weeks.
MT is natty

>>34924004
kek. That's pretty funny

>>34924055
Test. It's all you need imo. Test + food.

>>34924104
its almost like solid training and diet works

>>34924136
almost... but not quite

>>34924104
I'm thinking about upping the dose to 1.75g/wk
250mg ed

>>34924136
I'am still not 100% sure about it.

>>34924167
that's a bit crazy breh. Isn't this your first cycle?

>>34923771

So no bueno or banned?

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>>34924167
>oh no I have gyno
>better bomb myself with letro and take 2g test

>>34924220
I'm fiending for the gains real bad
>mostly a joke tho, maybe 750mg/wk later on if I feel like using up the rest of the 1/2 vial ill have left

>>34924227
titty has gone down much. just 12.5 asin and 10mg nolva ed. 75% taken care of already

>>34924227
>not blasting almost 2gs of test a month into your first cycle
do you even lift

EC stack results/reviews?

>>34924269
Yeah, i thought so. I did also 750mg for the first time. It's doable.

>>34923995
i love it when JM post as anon.

Although, i won't bully him anymore inside /fraud/, i can hardly resist. kek

>staring week 3 of 400mg tren e
>feeling jack shit

I assume this isn't normal?

>>34924220
>>34924167
I mean other substances have their place obv

>>34924269
thats good
nolva works tremendously

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Gyno Test!

> flex pecs
> keep back straight
> look down
> if you see nipples, you win

>>34924375
>but.. but.. muhh trenn

Guys I noticed that Nandrolone completely eliminates my allergies and they come back really bad when I go off. WTF?

>>34924496
Don't you try and trick me

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fuck I love dbol
On third week now
Took second week off
Just gonna go week on week off until I'm all out and the tren starts to kick in.
Already look bigger, feeling better about body in general

>>34924526
obviously you should stay on nandralone all the time

>>34924496
>tfw torpedo breasts when i flex pecs

fuck why do i have puffy nipples? i just want non-puffy ones ;-;

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you think this guy could be natty?

>>34924726
No source talk you queer

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what's steroid use like for the first time?
i'm sorta nervous

>>34924777
witnessed

i don't think this counts as source talk though
source talk is like, go buy drugs at this link....

>>34924788
aint nothing but a peanut

>>34924788
First it's all like
>WOAAAH
and then you're all like
>WOAH!
and then you're all like
>wwwwooooaaahhh

>>34924777
Right, forgot 4chan is supposed to be a bastion of virtue lol.

If the mods are just straight deleting threads again, I apologize. Haven't visited lately and missed the OP.

I am running a cycle of Test E @ 750mg + / - a week, (for 12-14 weeks) and am coming up towards the end of my cycle.
.
1. Do I cruise for the the same amount of time I was on cycle? I'd like to cruise for 2 months only. Would like opinions and experiences.

2. How much Test E do I cruise on? A safe bet from my research is 250-400mg per week. Opinions, advice?

3. Do I continue popping my AI every other day like I currently am? Or do I lessen it? My opinion is to only use if sides emerge, and if not every 4 days. Current AI is Arimidex (Anastrozol) - (.5mg every other day)

>>34924804
It's str8 source discussion...

>>34924826
I just don't want to have to search through the catalog for the new thread

>>34924726
>>34924777
>>34924804
I agree that this isn't really source talk
It's talking about individual experiences with gear which is okay based on what the admin posted

If it was "hey this is how you contact infinity and get the steroids and do the things" it would be source
But just saying a name gives people no info on how to get bathtub chemicals

>>34924671
i hope he is, cuz he looks like shit, fucking dyel

>>34924835
>I'd like to cruise for 2 months only

Length of cruise is determined by how well you return to baseline after blasting, get bloods done.

>How much Test E do I cruise on?

However much allows you to have good health indicators on your bloodwork.

>>34924853
>brutal

>>34924853
he looks bigger than ManletGains

>>34924555
Nani shimasuka?

Yeah I love dbol too. Starting my second week. Walk into the gym feeling like Godzilla

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Officially been blasting for 6 months now. 4 months 750test/600 deca and 2 months 500test/500tren/800eq with some orals tossed in here and there throughout. How unhealthy is it cruise on just 500test/wk indefinitely? I should probably get some bloodwork done

>>34925025
have you ever gotten bloodwork done?

>>34924929
Nah bullshit
I'm the biggest meanest guy here anon
Fite me irl I'll flex so hard your head will explode

>>34925025
>those shoulders
Fuuuurk

Been cruising for a year.

Is it too late to use letro to take care of alittle gyno?

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>>34925076
>Fite me irl I'll flex so hard your head will explode

>>34925025
Idk m8.

Probably not that bad desu if you're taking your liver support, doing cardio, etc.

I saw some posts on reddit of people blasting for 3 years and their bloodwork was just fine.

>>34925098
I see you have found photos of my previous fights
So you know how dangerous I am

>>34925127
How big are your arms now?


You've been getting stupid big in every pic I see.

Why are people hating on you? You're chill af.

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>>34925127
yeah breh, i've doxxed your whole life and have tons of pics of you.
here is from the time i caught you on ur bike.

>tfw badass fighter
>tfw badass rider
tfw manlet gains will never be your backpack as you cuddle

Will roiding get rid of my insecurities?

>>34925069
Nope, so kind of scared to check what's up :(

>>34925076
Thanks bb. Mostly thanks to lvl99 EQ. All I do for shoulders ever is OHP and lateral raises. I only incline bench (never flat) so that probably helps too.

>>34925233
Boldenone is definitely on my to do list, hopefully I can run it in January.

>>34925142
lel everyone has their reasons
I think mainly because I am dyel and probably being chill invites some hate
Also I continue to carry that slightly chub belly which means I don't look as great as I should

Arms are about 16inch
Which for a Manlet makes them look big haha

>>34925152
Dammit it was only a matter of time before one of you found out
It is all true
Please anon I will be our jet pack of you don't share the details of my life

>>34925214
Maybe

>>34925233
Damn, post a pic of what they look like from the front with arm down
I wanna see that wide shoulder bulge

I'm planing on training like this:
ABCxDEx
When and how much cardio should I do?
Also what kind? Swimming? Or plain old cardio machines.

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>>34925256
The vascularity from it has been crazy (Tbf idk how much of that is the tren though). I could only run tren e for two months before the sides got to me. The carb cravings and mood swings were brutal. L&L tren e is def gtg fwiw. I was eating ~1000 cal a day and lifting like twice a week for a month when I relapsed and I barely lost any muscle. Really amazing stuff.

>>34925127
Here's the best I could do. My girls coming over soon I'll get her to take a straight front one. She's just starting her var. Can't wait to see how it effects her, her quads & hamstrings are already ridiculous. I'll post a current pic of her if y'all care.

>>34925389
Do it as often as you can manage cuz pretty much anything you take is bad for cardio, just don't do it before a workout because you will just waste energy.

Swimming is good if you actually do it but chances are you're just going to hang out in the pool. All cardio works but try to alternate because doing the same exercise can end up hurting your joints.

I know this has been posted a million times but it needs to be post once more.

Been lifting for 3 years now and finally accepted going in for one cycle.

Question is what is the best for a noobie?

>>34925450
Just Test is the best. If you mix a bunch of shit and get sides you won't know what its from.

Ideally start with just test and maybe dbol and just add one or two things at most per cycle. Do something like 500 or 750 mg/wk for 2-3 months and see how you like it.

>>34925450
Lurk more, I could tell you what I did as a noob, but the point is, you should understand how this shit works, so you don't fuck up your body.

>>34925405
Nice, shoulder have become my favourite thing to work on since I ran tren and they started to actually look good
Also do it, I need to try and motivate my girl to work harder and look better

>>34925405
Let's see. And her lifts too.

I'm a noob, and I'm going to take just test for my first cycle. How should I train, what routine, should I still be doing olympic lifts?

Ran a couple cycles but I still don't understand how tren works in regards to cutting. Does it just let you build muscle on a deficit or does it actually help burn calories? If it's the second- how many calories and at what doses? Can't seem to find anything more then "yeah tren is good for cutting m8".

>>34925524
>How should I train
Harder

Its not space magic, you do pretty much the same stuff but just work harder. Longer workouts. More frequent workouts. Shorter rest times.

Gear improves pretty much anything.

Also brosplits actually work. You can focus more on one muscle and let it rest longer compared to natty lifters, but that's not all that important unless you are already legit big.

>>34924502
If you're not on legit kigs its not even worth lifting, this is a simple fact haters will ignore

>>34925567
I second pretty much all this

>>34925025
cruise closer to 250 or 300

How much longer should I stay natty? I'm still pretty skinny, thinking I should pack on more mass before I go fraud.
>6'2
>190lb
>175/275/350 bench/squat/dl

>>34925540
Not sure. I don't fuck with tren.

I had terrible insomnia for years that I broke free of so I'm not trying to get that back going.

>going out with a girl that already has a boyfriend
should I say fuck everything and be with her?

>>34925950
Hell no, if she'll cheat on him she'll cheat on you.

>>34926006
I just want to get laid m8.

What happens when girls supplement Estrogen like we supplement T?

I'm pretty sure the literature says something about fucked up fertility cycles but it also says that T causes heart disease.

>>34926017
>should I say fuck everything

Made it sound like you wanted to run off with her, if you're just after pussy then do whatever. I would leave the guy a note or something though.

>>34925475
What is reasonable pricing for test? So I can get an idea of price range

>>34926108
Where do you live?