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>>34904595
How to get a hormone/test levels check?
New.

>posting a pic of yourself in OP
>using name in OP

cheerbreh pls, u have lots to learn.

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>>34904631
depends on where you live. if in us, most states you can use a private med lab.

>tfw family bought snacks
>tfw my willpower is becoming weaker
I'm fucking bulking man yet I would feel guilty as fuck by opening a bag of chips.
GET ME OUT OF THIS NIGHTMARE /FRAUD/

>>34904595
Sterons are for manleg fagons.

>>34904647
Chips are disgusting, and only enjoyed by children and faggots. Which one are you?

What happened to the last thread?

>>34904710
both

>>34904720
Got deleted by a mod because there was a lot of source talk.

(Just my guess from switching back to it after leaving it open in a tab)

>>34904645
What if I live in Aus?

Where could I find a low sides starter stack?

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On my 13th day of my Super DMZ 3.0 cycle. This shit actually works. My girl commented about how much my chest and arms have filled out in the past week.

Apparently this stuff is better than anadrol and superdrol, and somewhat legal. But the fuck do I know lol

>>34904738
Turk's fault

>>34904862
:(

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Does hcg need to be airtight after it has been mixed? Please help. Is the bac vial airtight after the rubber has been punctured? The coloured cap doesnt want to come on fully back again.

How long does it take for my test levels to go back down after a blast? I'm pinning test e e3d and did my first 250mg injection 2 days ago after blasting

>test normal after cycle

Thank you based nolva

So when should Istart my next cycle? February or March? Want to be finishing the cycle as the summer starts

>>34904710
>tfw both of these things
Its okay...i-ill look great after this cut right guys?

>>34904972
Not the same guy but I just had some chips, literally the only cheat shit I eated on the week and I feel guilty as fuck.
I swear not even being an asshole with people make me feelt this guilty.

Brehs is it safe to go on tren if your bp 130/60?

>>34904921
bump

>>34905031
I'd say maybe.. What's the reason for your diastolic being so low?

Tren shreds my BP apart. I'm usually 120/80 and by the end of a 12 week run @ 350mg I'm ~150/100.

It's not uncommon for others to go higher either, so up to you. Take your omega's. Do your daily cardio. Keep sodium at a minimum. You'll be fine.

>>34905102
Also, keep your estro really low.. Not crashed, but really low..

>>34904936
~3-4 weeks maybe.

Lol got sent to florida. Had to bring test plus a syringe with me. Got paid for about 30-40hrs plus sipping beer nd chilling at a hotel room. Today was my off day. Feels good bruhh

>>34904836
Dmz 3.0 the fuqq are you on ab9ut sir. Never heard of that

>>34904936
After pct i assume. If not a couple months. If you do everything correctly including ai and pct you will go back normal.

>>34904803
Mate I had the same concern

Just pop down to the GP and they'll do ya for free through a blood test

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I heard from the grapevine that taking roids makes your penis bigger
Im only four inches

>>34904595
have you taken the heterosexual pledge yet?

>>34905280
Nope. If y9u fuck up with your ai your dick does not work

>>34905320
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2YEhudaySc

>>34904956
Time on = time off + pct

Not like anyone here follows that but that's the general rule of thumb for not abusing.

Eat clen and tren hard guys. Never give up.

>>34905366
Bro i really dont get the time on equals time off. Isnt it best to stay on wont i lose most of my muscle when i go on pct?

>>34905383
I know there is a pic with that joke with more compounds, shame i don't have it right now, it would be cool to have it as an OP.

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>>34904595
What the FUCK is going on with that guy's hair

I wasn't even in the last bread
I swear best behaviour from now on
I'll learn to read better
And write good
And I won't post ponies

okay what the fuck happened in the last thread?
are we all friends?

>>34904595sup fräuds


I'm very prone to hypertension.
i
Aspire to look shredded, fitness model-like.

Can anyone here reccommend a cycle that'll make me sjredded and dry asfuck

WITHOUT FUCKING MYself up?

Dont wanna get stroke for the 2nd time in a year desu aäm

(I've gotten a stroke before at 19 years old)

I know tren will fuck yourBP up so thats kinda out of the question so

>>34905457
Yes

>>34905389
Not if your diet and lifts are in check.

You'll lose water weight but who cares

>>34904921
>Does hcg need to be airtight after it has been mixed? Please help. Is the bac vial airtight after the rubber has been punctured?
If you're worried about contamination it's really dust that's the problem. That's why having filtered air is so important in labs and surgery rooms. The rubber seal is fine. If you mean you mixed bacteriostatic water with solid peptides it's really the same deal, tho the bac water helps stop bacterial growth even if it has been slightly contaminated.

If you mean airtight as in airtight it shouldn't matter. The rubber seal is probably even somewhat gas permeable.

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>>34905447

BASSED COLIN

>>34905457
I'm not your friend, pal.

>>34905447
You don't like my hair breh?

>>34904595
So what would adding 600 tren to a 300test/wk sustained cruise do?(for four months) Can someone who's experienced with tren please list the pros vs cons. I've read and lurked a bit but I'd prefer experience reviews please. Thank you for your time.

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>>34905494
Bump

>>34905692
>wants to roid
>has had a stroke at 19

safest is probably test. i'm not a doctor tho

>>34905513
Huh. Was n9t aware of that. I rlreally need t9 crack down on my diet nd get my shit on point

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Why aren't you niggers on /pol/? It's happening.

>>34905833
the other day you said low igf caused autism and hairloss
are you saying if i take peptides my autism will be cured and my hair won't shed?

unrelated, i've been running on no test for over a month now and i think i might be getting depressed.

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what do I need to take to look like David Laid?

>>34905855
Who not nolva off?

>>34905908
still taking another compound, just no test. planning on re introducing in ~5 weeks.
unless things change.

>>34905833
link it nigga

>>34905954
tfw we lost mossad to pol

Fraud wake up

>>34906226
can't wake up

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>>34906226
I cant sleep anyways

T-thanks tren

Hey guys.

I'm thinking that I'm gonna make a move on cheerleader girl soon.

Also gonna make a move on wheelchair girl

And gonna spend some time hitting on my teammate's roommate.

Been starting to pick back up on chicks. Just hope my one fat tit goes away before anyone sees me shirtless.

How is fraud doing?

>>34906320
You should totes tell us about the cheerleader girl

>>34906320
Only getting girls with relationships for some reason.

>>34906333
She's cute as fuck. Spent about 4 hours today cheering with her and gonna spend at least that long tomorrow cheering. She's been dropping some hints I think. It's all I can do not to grab her and drag her somewhere we can fuck like animals bruh. Spent hours standing on the edge of a basketball court trying not to let anyone see my hardon. Fuckin libido gains man

>>34906341
Roommate girl just got out of a relationship last week and cheerleader girl is currently in one with a guy that is maybe 10 pounds bigger than she is. Would make a nice twink desu. It makes it exciting though

>>34906359
what's the fucking deal with those girls that have pics of their ex's on their FB? and those girls that says they have a relationship but it doesn't says with who?
What the fuck man.

>>34906370
I have pics with my ex on my facebook. Idgaf I don't feel the need to spend an hour out of my life deleting nice pictures of me just because I don't talk to the other person in the pic. The no name relationship shit is weird tho I don't know about all of that

update on my cycle, first pin (200mg deca + 300mg test-e) was last sunday night, first oral (50mg drol) was monday night, not even a week into the cycle and I'm already visibly pretty huge, but I know a lot of that is going to just be water retention. definitely doing better with my AI dosing than I did last cycle, acne is flaring up but not out of control, back pumps are tough during workouts but not too hard in daily activities. I was sweating like hell last night though, I guess because I walked around with a heavy backpack in kind of muggy weather, was hoping my classmates didn't notice too much. Sucked that I couldn't drink with them but they were good sports and didn't ask too many questions about why I wasn't imbibing.

meanwhile in bitchville: tinder chick almost tried to friendzone me, I quickly kicked her out and placed her firmly in the dick zone. she's definitely helping me get through one of the drol sides, if you know what I mean.

>>34906377
do yourself a huge favor and delete the pics with your ex.
Also delete her number if you still have it.

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in4 mother russia getting b& from the Olympics for doping kek

>>34906399
Why? We've been broke up for over a year, I talk to her every once in a while for shits and giggles cause she gets mad so easily. I'm wise to all her tricks now

>>34906436
It's unethical

Pretty rustled about thing in France 2bh
No sure if high estro or real feels

>>34906467
I only keep pictures of exes that I still like despite our separation
especially if they're nudes

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>>34906476
looks like another feel train for the whole world to get on board

Hello guys, I'm gonna run my first cycle, I wanna keep it simple, without adding dbol, or deca, I want to see how my body evolves and reacts with just test, even though many places suggest the stack I mentioned above, for beginners.

It's going to be a 10 week long cycle:

1-10 Sustanon 250mg twice a week, Mondays and Thursdays.
3-10 HCG 250iu every 4 days

PCT would start 2 weeks after last T shot and HCG.
I'm planning to take Tamoxifen 4 weeks, however,I'm not sure about the dosage, I was planning on 40mg one in the morning one in the night daily for the first 2 PCT weeks, and the last 2 weeks only 20mg per day.

I've also read that Arimidex/Letro,or even Tamoxifen should be used if any sides appear during cycle, but I have not found yet how should the dosage be, if that's the case, and if I use Tamoxifen to attack the sides, should I change the PCT drug, or can I entirely ditch Letro/Arimidex for this cycle?

>>34906547
I just can't be fucked to go through and delete 50 or 100 pictures from Facebook and Twitter and then have no senior prom photos also lol.

But we still love each other real talk. We are in an extended break where we don't talk to each other or care what the other is doing but we love them and realize our lives are incomplete without the other half. It feels like true love brehs we are just too young and I don't want to fuck it all up forever twice

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>>34906616
http://pastebin.com/ys7xXYkL

>>34906616
I'd use aromasin as an AI instead of letro or amiridex. Take 12.5mg e3d and fine tune as needed if you aren't really lean already

Also you don't need hcg

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>>34906661
dem based jm feels for bby mama.

>>34906556
Oh god I'm one of those people...

>>34906616
if you really insist on not using dbol, that's your choice, but I highly suggest a frontload even for your first cycle. you'll know how your body reacts to test, because by week 5 you won't have any other steroids in your blood stream. also, sust kind of sucks in that you won't have a stable test level, so it might make it harder to gauge your performance and adjust your eating and lifting habits. still, sust is designed to kick in quickly, so it's a better choice than enanthate if you want to skip orals, and definitely cheaper and better for your liver, so why not.

the word about aux is this: with half a pill of AI every other day until your system clears out, you should be in good shape, don't use nolva/clomid until PCT. HCG is great, don't listen to >>34906678 BUT it's easy for your body to gain tolerance, so don't use it until the last two weeks of your cycle. you will fuck up your PCT if your balls have not been restarted when the test completely clears your system, because they have to be in their original shape in order to begin producing test again. in fact, it's possible that you could continually produce test even with exogenous in your system, but the risk of desensitizing your balls to LH/HCG is too high to justify having them fluffy the entire length of your cycle.

>>34906682
That's exactly what I was thinking when I was typing that. But it's true. She tells me that I've ruined other guys for her because she compares them all to me. I think she broke my ability to love new people when we broke up so it's basically me for her and her for me. It's gonna be super chill and awesome as soon as I'm mature enough to handle a serious relationship

>>34906706
No hcg is expensive, gay, and completely and absolutely unnecessary for this short of a cycle

How/what is /fraud/ doing tonight?

>got a half root canal done earlier
>popped some addy and studied for physics for 6 hours straight so far
>tfw no time to party
>tfw things aren't working out with girls
>tfw not making good progress on my goal to make my body count 11 before the end of the year

>>34906711

Im happy for you brah, hopefully you got a nice down to earth qt waiting for ya

>>34906719
do you like saying goodbye to your gains? HEPTA shutdown happens within a week of greatly increased exo test levels, the difference between 10 and 20 weeks of cycling does not change the fact that you will get shutdown when running recreational levels of test, and you will lose more of your gains and spend longer without a sex drive if your balls are not restarted once the exo clears. if you have some citation that contradicts this, you're welcome to post it.

>>34906720
>Recovering from drinking a ton of vodka at some girls house party last night
>hooked up with a black girl
>spent the night with the original girl
>came home slept all day
>missed class don't care have an A
>just woke up at 11pm my internal clock is now fucked

Also I'm wondering how bad is Tren insomnia I have always stayed away from Tren for that reason because I already have bad insomnia from the Marines

>>34906720
Hit gym at 5:30 am. Wrote an essay from 8amish until 8:45pm. Turned it in. Just winding down now.

>>34906726
No she's a psycho bitch straight from the depths of hell sent here to torment me but I'm in love.

I hate this woman so god damn much and she's annoying and overbearing and crazy and doesn't believe in my dreams but fuck I love her

>>34906737
Just don't be a pussy and you'll be fine. Damn boi

>>34906720
Been trying to fall asleep for 2 hours (currently 1AM) but some honey on my team last year wants me to talk to her and I'm trying to plan out a date with a new honey also

>>34906769

God damn you got quite the influx of chicas

Would you say your increased libido motivated you to pursue more girls?

>>34906678
I don't have access to Aromasin, all the nearby pharmacies are out of stock, and they don't know when they'll get more.

>>34906706
I chose Sustanon exactly because of those properties, I like the fact that it has boths short and long lasting esters. However I've read tons of debates of what's best, if inyecting twice a week, EOD, ED, to keep levels stable, however, none of them have a definite conclusion, and in the end they all argue it depends on personal experience.
Yes, I'm trying to avoid orals as much as I can, is there any inyectable that you would suggest to frontload my first cycle?
So, my PCT of Tamoxifen is okay, but my AI while on cycle should be either Anastro/Letro? (I would pick Anastrozole because I have easy access to it), I would take .5mg per day, starting on week 2 till the last test shot. If any sides appear, I would increase to 1mg daily till they subside, and then then go back to .5mg.

I'm concious about the LH/HCG resistance, but a dosing of 250iu is that dangerous to provoke resistance? If it's so, would a 1000iu shot once a week, the last 3 weeks, would be okay?

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>Deca durabolin

Does anybody have any experience with it?

Mainly for joints and the like over muscle growth.

>>34906789
if you can cope with deca dick, go ahead.

>>34906792
I'll take getting cancer if it means my back pain can fuck off.

Though doesn't deca dick really only occur in medium/larger doses?

>>34906800
deca can give you side effects, even on weekly 100mg doses, it'll also shut your HPTA down.
I was planning on cycling with deca, but the sides kinda scared me, however, deca is a great steroid if you know how to use it correctly.

>>34906800
>>34906805
Just take cabergoline

>>34906788
Start off at 0.25mg adex. Adjust if needed. Currently doing the same and not seeing any symptoms.

>>34906830
The week/days schedules are okay then?

I'm still not sure about what's the best approach on HCG, both options have pros and cons.

>>34906810
how much?

>>34906852
0.25mg twice a week is plenty

>>3490687
thanks bro

Does anyone know if there are any labs that test steroid purity? I dont see why these wouldnt exist as labs for drug tests exist too.
Anyone know anything about that, i guess there has to be a good reason because it could be quite profitable i imagine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trR5MmkLkUo

>>34906788
there is no way to keep the blood levels stable, you're using a mix of not two but four esters whose half-lives range from 3 days to two weeks. your best bet is either to take the average of the shortest and longest half-lives, or just pin as if it were prop with no other esters.

for front-loading, I don't think you need anything special. almost all injectables are estered anyway, because a daily shot would be painful as hell. I'd say just bite the bullet and expect nothing for three days, then a slow, steady income of gains for the next week until you're completely fired up about two weeks in. there are more pleasant orals, like anavar, if you're willing to drop the money, or you could just run a very short two-week frontload of dbol at 25mg to minimize liver effects.

I want to help you with the HCG dosing, but I can't remember the perfect number. any amount will set you down the road to desensitization, so the less the better, just save it all for right at the end of your cycle before pct time. it acts very quickly, I think I only needed like three shots total before I was done with the stuff on my last cycle. it's just there for a quick reboot and it's surprisingly effective even in low doses.

Just came back from 10 beers drinks on an epistane cycle. How shitty will I feel in the morning? Been on cycle support the whole time.

>>34907087
This is a good video
I absolutely believe in the overuse of AI since I stopped using it

anybody know of another way to contact kiwijuice since safemail is down? i know he hasnt been here for a while

>>34907087
I really can't hear what he's saying, but I was under the impression that shit like nolva was bad for cycle, but AIs were more useful. last time I dosed pretty low, like 0.33mg every two or three days, and I had a bad build-up of water all over, so I went up to 0.5mg every two days for my higher dose of anadrol, and the back pumps still hurt sometimes.

>>34907094
I'll bite and go just with Sust.

I'm scared about the desensitization, and permanent hypogonadism, some even suggest to avoid HCG alltogether, even if it takes 2 months to go back to normal test production, but I guess that would cause a post cycle crash, even with a Nolva PCT.

>>34907165
anadrol doesn't aromatise
tamoxifen is great on cycle, raloxifene is better

>>34907181
it doesn't, but I'm also running 600mg of test and 400mg of deca weekly, so hey.

I looked into it before hand, I was told that tamoxifen was worse to use on cycle. I honestly still don't know what to believe. I think this is going to be my last cycle, so I hope what I got now will be sufficient.

>>34907170
lots of people who use HCG get 10000 or even 15000ius of the shit and use it the entire cycle. these people do this cycle after cycle, or even doing it while cruising. this is the best way to fuck up your sensitivity. a few shots at the end of your cycle aren't ideal, but your chances of desensitization are pretty slim. waiting two months for your balls to come back, along with test production and your sex drive, is scary and not only detrimental to your ability to maintain what you pulled on cycle, but also would fuck you out of a lot of your personal life. that much time spent with lowered test will make your life miserable, just depressed and unmotivated all the time, with no desire to even masturbate.

>>34907165
The downside of not destroying estrogen is you do get shit like being wet

>>34906249
SAUCE!?!?!?! i used reverse image search but nothing

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>steroids and injury

Did any of you ever take gear to help with existing injuries?

How did it go?

>>34907204
which is well-understood. the problem isn't getting a little bit of water, the problem is having the entire body so waterlogged that everything in your body fucking hurts and you look like total shit. I see people say things like "up your doses if the sides are bad" and I try not to roll that way, but I think a consistent 0.5mg EOD should provide the balance between keeping sides in check and fucking you out of the necessary "good" amount of estro

>>34907203
Tamoxifen or clomid with deca, is a bad idea, since the problem with deca has to do with progestin and prolactin. I don't remember the exact facts, but as Cyclefag said, the way to go with deca is Cabergoline.

>>34907217
Things like eq and var tend to cover up but not heal imo

Could try PEPs like mod grf, tb500, mk-meme600 etc though

>>34907226
.5mg of what
Adex? Overkill imo, but nothing wrong with a well dosed ancillary to keep you rolling
That's what I hate about AI, the dosage is so personal

>>34907203
>>34907094

what do you think about the recommendations on this post?
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/hcg-during-a-cycle.134314657/
It approaches exactly the desensitization issue, along with a E4D use according to bodyfat and timing.

>>34906830
forgot to ask, you take the .25adex ED?

>>34907246
I was actually trying to get a low dose of deca durabolin as I've heard it does not need higher doses to get the effect of increased blood cell counts and fluid levels in joints.

Your thoughts?

I'll take boner problems for 8 weeks if it helps my back.

>>34907118
To be fair though your AI was some unknown substance that seemingly increased your e2 levels.

>>34907181
How much ralox would you run on a blast?
Do you still beleive in avoiding AI on tren? I've read that tren works optimally in a low estro environment.

>>34907289
30mg should be fine unless you have problems then up it to 60mg

I've had people with pretty bad gyno reverse it with 120mg/day

nah just don't fuck around with estrogen too much, just take some caber and masteron is always good

>>34907118
Annddd you're welcome.

Dup anybody?

>>34907285
Lol true
But before and semi after I've used pharma a dex and as in. Feel equivalent now, better after random shit, who knows its half life tho

But besides chubby cheeks and crying at guys grocery games 20mg per week nolva feels good man

>>34907284
I can't personally speak for DECA as I don't like it, but its actions are similar and would be worse than a peptide for your endocrine system. I highly advise looking into tb500 or mod grf
Also if you're set on DECA, try npp if its for 8 weeks, same thing, shorter half-life

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>>34907309
Sorry man I'm a total novice when it comes to this stuff, so I know exactly what you're talking about can you give the longer names for them?

Or their wikipedia articles or somesuch?
Have a girl picture.

>>34907295
Yes thank you
How's wherever you are lol

>>34907318
Npp is the prop ester of nand
DECA is much longer, so for a short cycle npp would kick in and be out faster but every day or every other day injections would be required

You can Google the peptide names, that's what they're called and you should get good results

Grf influences growth hormone directly
Where as tb500 heals some other way I'm not entirely sure how but its a race horse favorite

>>34907346
I see.
What also appealed about DECA was that you take it every couple weeks and a doctor does it.

Since I'm trying to be prescribed them I figure it's easier to get it that way because they know what you're taking and when you take it instead of handing you a bunch of needles and gear and telling you to remember when to do it and hoping you don't sell it.

>>34906719
>tfw someone roiding for 3 weeks is giving out roid advice

>>34906982
jano does, he posts here and you can also find him on SST

>>34907357
That's true you're very unlikely to have PEPs prescribed

But honestly even with low test I had a hell of time getting roids

What is likely is that a doc will give you a cortico steroid which reduces inflammation but doesn't help heal

But deca would be better than nothing yes, good luck with your doctor

anyone has chem wiki link?

Anybody knows how to prevent stretch marks?
I got some between the legs while being natty, but I'm afraid that taking steroids will fill me with those fuckers.

>>34907459
Bio oil worked okay to get rid of them

Dunno about prevention tho, I'm retardedly dyel and still get them

>>34907230
yes,but I'm still on test. I didn't have problems with prolactin in the brief time I took tren, so I hope it shouldn't arise with deca

>>34907246
anastrozole. like I said, .33mg didn't help me much before.

>>34907248
whoever wrote that post knows much more than I do, so it is my educated opinion that you follow what they said more than what I could say. what I can confirm is that a few shots at the end of my last cycle caused my balls to bounce right back.

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>>34907438
It was deleted and even if it was up the thread would get deleted for posting it.

>>34907459
you shouldnt be growing muscle fast enough to get stretchmarks even on steroids.. the only people i know with stretchmarks are dreambulkers and idiots who dont watch their estro and bloat like crazy

>>34907487
nice meme friend
only thing to get rid of stretch marks is retin-a or lasar treatment unless your deficient in micronutrients

>>34907489
That's quite a lot pharma, what were you running?

>>34907517
Coconut cream oil or similar products I think are what pregnant ladies rub on stretch marks right

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>>34907397
Yeah, I feel your pain there.

Especially since I'm in my mid 20's they'll likely think I'm a meatheat making shit up to get gear. Though I've had injuries like this for *years* and I've been seeing one doctor about it for much of that time so I'll have to hope he can write his colleague and say "yeah he's legit".

>cortisone injections

Yeah fuck them, they're nearly useless.

Anyway thanks for the well wishes.

>>34907487
I'll try that to treat the ones I already have, and I'll combine with Palmers to prevent further stretch marks.

>>34907517
I got them natty...and I didn't even grow that fast, maybe I'm genetically prone. Also someone told me that corticoid meds, could've caused the weakness on my skin (I was taking betametasone on pills, and on cream because of a weird irritation between my legs).
I'm no longer taking those meds, but I'm still afraid of getting more shit.

>>34907523
Why are you up boy?!?

>>34907523
>Coconut cream oil or similar products I think are what pregnant ladies rub on stretch marks right
Might help fade stretchmarks but it wont heal them

>>34907542
I want to fade the ones I've got, but I know that's difficult, so I want to at least prevent more from forming.

>>34907517
Looks better, but your right that it's not gone, I can still feel then soft area

Can someone give me a basic protocol to follow for using MK-677? What should my diet be like on it? Do I need to avoid eating before and after taking it?

>>34907546
There's not really anything you can do to prevent them. Just try not to blow up to fast; stay lean, eat at a slight caloric surplus and keep bloat down.

>>34907523
frontload dbol 25mg ED 4 weeks
test-e 15 weeks 500mg/week
tren-a 5 weeks, 250mg or so

Been reading about tbol, essentially its dbol gains without the estro sides.. at least in theory
Why isnt it more popular? I assume in practice it doesnt work as well as it should?

>>34907615
price

>>34907615
actually the gains are slower and smaller than dbol, and it's twice the price of anadrol

test and tren is making me hairy.. upper legs, ass, stomach and chest were completely hairless less then two months ago and now i look like an arab
facial hair has increased slightly too but i was hoping for more.. what compound would be best for increasing facial hair? i think mast might be a good idea because of DHT, right?

>>34907539
trying to sober up lol
good bye pmsf lol

>>34907613
still lot imo
and you said it didnt feel good
but ai is such an individual thing I cant comment further, and dbol is very wet

>>34907529
docs can be so frustrating
I highly suggest self medicating if youve been trying for years

>on npp
>going overseas for 10 days
>planning to come back and continue cycle?

Is this okay? im concerned since my bloods will prolly be messed up when i come back.

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Oh yeah, apparently DECA doesn't induce hair loss or any of that crap either.

Downside is no erections but I'm >nogf so checkmate erection goblins.

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any politically aware fraudsters here?

>implying recent events are going to affect Australians

what are fellow euros doing to prepare for shit hitting the fan since you can't buy a gun? I'm taking up mma and UPPING THE DOSE

>>34907636
Yeah youre right the same ones that cause male pattern baldness, so sth like mast would be ideal i think

>>34907639
cmon fraud, thoughts??

>>34907639
your levels will drop, potentially causing sides..
i would try to get my hands on deca and frontload that before the trip to keep levels stable
play around on steroidplot

honestly though it probably wont cause any issues

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I consider myself to know a shit load about anabolics but there's one thing I've never understood and that's recovering from bad blood markers. so obviously there's 3 main things to watch out for: lipid, glucose and liver enzymes

now you can take superdrol for 3 weeks and it will destroy your lipids and your liver enzymes. that's just ONE instance. so how the fuck do pros manage to take 12 different drugs simultaneously at absolutely heroic doses and presumably still maintain decent enough health markers to survive?

inb4 hurr TUDCA, coq10, NAC etc. those things can only get you so far. I'm talking about pro doses

>>34907676

Genetics and luck.

How badly a given dose fucks your markers and how badly you react to those fucked markers is variable from individual to individual.

>>34907676
I think their roid stacks are somewhat sane, probably never more than 4 at once and doubtful more than 1.5mg of any injectable, 200mg of drol/100mg of dbol. They got a lot out of tens of thousands of crazier shit, mostly HGH, slin, and other crazy growth factors that you do not want to play with. One insider revealed that they're pretty much on life support, and the closer you are to the top the less likely you are to live past 50.

>>34907676
liver: i doubt pros are running sdrol year round, they probably switch from very hepatoxic orals to slightly hepatoxic orals every few weeks to give their liver a break
lipds: statins? btw coq10 is actually pretty great desu senpai
glucose: idk mang eating food often???

>>34907695

If you mean "no more than 1.5g of any particular injectable" you're more or less right barring a few outliers. If you mean "no more than 1.5g total injectables per week" then no.

>>34907707
that's what I meant. I mean, I'm sure some of them are running 1.5g test, 1.5g tren plus maybe anadrol, but what else would they be running at the same time? there's not much else you could add to increase muscle development from AAS alone, since you're already pretty much fully anabolic-anadrolic at that point, and if you wanted to cut you would have to drop drol for something like winny. I can't imagine what you would need more than 3 different types for at any point in any kind of cycle.

will tren enan have any effect on body composition in 2 weeks?
should i just pin like 500mg ED?

>>34907727

A fair number of drugs are used not so much for anabolism as their effect on the physical appearance of the muscle (var, for example, is frequently claimed as making you look dryer and harder than you are at the same BF/water levels without it) or to help counter the stress of other drugs (high levels of deca, for example, for the collagen synthesis and general improvement in joint pain).

>>34907736
>3.5g of tren a week
the fucking madman
no dude, take it from me, I tried to do a low-dose short term run of tren, it wasn't really worth it. do it for 8-16 weeks, 400-600mg a week (pin twice) with an equal or slightly greater amount of test and AI.

>>34907750
yeah, but if you're mixing shit up then how could you expect the hardening effects of var to cancel out, say, the bloating effects of deca and drol? if you wanted to get bigger, wouldn't you just take test along with one powerful injectable and one powerful oral, and then when you want to cut, switch out those two with tren and winny or a good slimming oral like var? it's not like you can just pick an extra drug to laser off the size effects of the other three you're taking

Tfw probably bunk ai
Took 25mg today and nips still perky and joints aren't crunchy. Probably bunk right?

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If you start getting "bitch tits" on gear at low does, if you just stop then and there will they go away?

I'm looking at getting something but am afraid of the nasty side effects, I can deal with them if they'd go away whether it's acne, ball shrinkage or skin rashes but big ticket items like tits, hair loss I'm worried as all hell about so I was wondering how you guys deal with/work around these problems.

>>34907727
I would bet the guys on top would run something like this in the off season:
1-2g test
400-800mg trest
1-2g DHB
1.5-2g mast
1-1.5g tren
600-1g npp
150mg drol
10mg lgd-4033
20mg var
50mg primo
50mcg t3
igf1/igf2
slin
hgh
peps

before comp/photoshoots drop the oils and replace drol with sdrol and winny

Already got pubertal gyno im just cutting it all away in a year, no problem

>>34907778
i just want to look good for stereo :(
after that ill drop the dose to 400mg per week and run it for 14 weeks or so

>>34907829
Replace that lgd with rad

>>34907829
http://www.evolutionary.org/lee-priest-steroids-cycle/
https://www.t-nation.com/steroids/steroids-what-pro-bodybuilders-are-really-using

I was right, they're topping out at 4 types of gear at once, less than daily 150mg orals and weekly 1.5g injections, the rest is various growth factors and cutting drugs. no one runs two nor19s at once, aside from the sides and danger the two simply aren't synergistic.

>>34907807
>25mg
> joints aren't crunchy
letro = bunk
adex = bunk
asin = possibly bunk

>>34907836
it really doesn't work that way, you can't rush steroids like that. the only ones that act hard and fast are orals, the rest you just have to take the rate you get for an 8 to 16 week stretch of time.

>>34907824
Run 30mg raloxifene ED on cycle and you will be virtually immune to getting bitch tits
Unless you run a 19nor, in that case take 0.25mg caber E3D

>>34907838
you werent right about shit, both them articles are shit
theres no way to know what the top guys are running but you can bet your ass they are running more than 1.5g of injections a week

and seriously using evolutionary as a source for info? lmao

>>34907837
Yeah you right, my bad. Always get SARMs confused.

>>34907838
>lee priest cycle
>absolutely zero evidence that this is what lee priest used
>doesn't realise this is just a google search engine clickbait

also the fact that he supposedly used ostarine, a drug that only came into existence in the last 5 years and that he used "N2guard", a supp marketed by the creator of this website, fucking lmao

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>>34907645
>2016-1
> rassling armed muslim terrorists with superior martial arts

>>34907882
got a better option than combat training for a population denied arms or are you just a kek?

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i saw a marc lobliner video the other day, a dude in a natural competition got busted

>natural competitor
>BARELY wins the competition
>fails drug test
>is on 4 different steroids

>>34907861
>>34907878
you're right, but every link reads out like this
I don't know who would run more than 1.5g of injections, there's nothing to get out of it at that point, especially when you have slin and gh to pin

>>34907960
>cheating in the special olympics
ultimate fuccboi behavior

>>34907960
>>BARELY wins the competition

holy shit how naive are you? if you're actually implying they're not all on gear too, you're an idiot

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>>34907998
that was my point you dope, he's on 4 different steroids and his physique looks the same as everyone else in the competition

>>34908007
>still implying that everyone else isn't on 4 different steroids

you're a fool

>>34907866
I just mean this because rad is way more potent lol

Source:gained 15 lbs in 6 weeks on it

>>34908031
The joke is that he's on 4 while the others are on 2

Why yall fags not running rad/test stacks anyways

>>34908043
I only run things that are popular here

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>>34908031
thats not my implication you retard

my implication is that you can be on shit loads of gear and still look the same as all the other competitors... because they are also on the same fucking shit

only difference is they passed the test

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>>34907932
Run and hide. Unless you have military training your bbj purple belt isn't going to so jack shit against some suicidal jihasist with an ak47 unless the fucker isn't properly trained or a complete moron.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3206426/U-S-Marines-armed-gunman-onboard-high-speed-train-Amsterdam-Paris.html

Is a 6 week cycle of LGD-4033 5mg followed by like 4 weeks of just DAA for PCT retarded? Has anyone needed a more substantial PCT for LGD?

>>34908078
if you did some reading around, yes, people did
generally a low dose of clomid and/or nolva is suggested, at least keep some on hand to see what your blood says after cycle

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>>34908078
It's supposedly a really mild compound. You'd have to check bloods but some people don't even run pct after a short cycle. R/peds on reddit has a ton of logs from people who ran SARMs.

>>34908069
oh, you thought I was referring to killing a terrorist during a terrorist attack. american confirmed

I was referring to the ensuing civil wars that are going to start popping up throughout Europe

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>>34908129
Do you honestly think that if it gets to that point motherfuckers are going to be wrestling each other in the steets rather than arming citizens or resistance militia popping up everywhere? Smart people will just get illegal firearms or gtfo. Implying European countries don't have millions of guns already in circulation.

>>34908163
does every military in the world also train in hand to hand combat, yes or no?

>>34908078
DAA is litreally worthless. There's even studies showing DAA suppresses T levels, the exact opposite of what you want during PCT.
Do 20/20/20 nolva.
Also I'd run the LGD for atleast 8 weeks personally.

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>>34908170
Not to actually fight wars it's a back up system.

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>tfw superdrol got a nigga intensely aware of his heartbeat at all times

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Jesus christ.

http://decasteroid.org/deca-durabolin-gains/

So if my doctor gives me some of this, do I have to take (and keep track of) all these other vials too?

I'm trying to fix my joints here (but muscle gains would be great) and it seems this will be a lot to manage.

>>34908317
No test?

>>34908362
Nvm sust...

>>34908283
my heart felt like it was going to explode out of my chest on 50mg superdrol after squats
my heartbeat was literally shaking my whole body

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Is there a way to get any kind of gear from hospitals? I mean some of them were intended for some kind medical use, so I assume hospitals must have them. I have a friend who might be able to help me, but I want to ask you guys if it's possible.

>>34908387
You mean like steal meds from a hospital kek?

>>34908387
Stealing medication from a hospital is a near guaranteed way to get arrested.

They check that stuff before and after every shift (and the open the box to see if it's there, too) and for something like anabolic steroids they'd be likely to check it twice.

>>34908317
I guess that cycle would work, but it looks like a mess. You could do my cycle:
week 1-4: 50mg anadrol
week 1-13: 400mg deca
week 1-15: 600mg test-e
AI, nolva, HCG

still waiting for the deca to kick in (shit takes a long time, hence the tapering), but the drol is working great so far. I hear it's not for everyone, but maybe I'm lucky because so far my sides are pretty small even though I decided to raise my dosage to 100mg for the first week.

Sup cunts, I need to eat but I'm not hungry

>>34908458
make a protein shake. easiest way to get those good, good bicycle calories when you just don't have the will to take another fucking bite of chicken

>>34908458
Mk-677
I could go fucking days without food
now I want to eat the fridge constantly

>>34908387
Gear?

PSMF, is EC stack good? Ive never tried it and considering to add it to kill my hunger.

>>34908475
It'll only help with hunger for a couple weeks, but does burn additional calories after that.
Makes me feel like shit if I use it for even a few days though, but that's just me.

>Have girl from Tinder over
>She was gone in the morning
>She left $72.18 in my kitchen
I'm confused.

>>34908458
Chew gum n' drink water?

>>34908556
did she take 50x50mg of tbol from you? the gains struggle is real

>>34908613
Oh shit, she did take one of my workout shirts, actually.
That's worth $5 though, so we're buying gucci next.

>tfw just pinned quads with a 25g instead of a 23g for the first time

holy shit that was flawless. never going back to 23g for quads

>>34908475
I use only 25mg ephedrine in the morning so I can get good sleep. It's working great with intermittent fasting.

Ephedrine + caffeine burns me out fast like turk said. It depletes your body of nutrients. And with a nutrient-void diet like psmf, you would burn out even faster.

Here's what I'd do(except I wouldn't do psmf, but that's just me):

Use 25mg ephedrine in the AM. Fast for 12 hours with water/green tea. Eat your protein + vegetables with any sodium source(soy sauce or pink salt). Then sleep.

>>34908635
>using a 23g ever
fuck me. I use a 25g in my delts, the PIP sucks but I can go the gym the same day and still bang out some jerks.

>>34908635
You used to draw and inject with the same needle or something?
Why ever use 23g

Why is France getting targeted so much by isis? I thought they kept themselves out of it all aside from the caricaturists thing earlier in the year.

>>34908656
used to draw with 21g and pin with 23g. it's not that bad

>>34908670
France is a cocktail of religions, cultures, open borders and opinions, making it harder to single out extremes.

>>34908670
hella muslims already there and their intelligence service got gutted under sarkozy and is still rebuilding
plus lotsa ghettos because they're the first (and last, for many) stop for people crossing the med

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>>34908670
Shit ton of muslim immigrants with strong ties to the homeland.

Does anyone else do steroids because they hate their life? Everything is shit but damn I love steroids. Plus they enable an occasional fuck of a girl less aesthetic than I.

>>34908670
Yeah cuz Muslims care about being fair...

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>>34908556
>She left $72.18 in my kitchen

pic related

>>34908670
Because they're a huge part in bombings in Syria

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>>34908670
>isis
Wut, where was it confirmed this was ISIS

>>34908785
>turkey, saudi arabia and qatar fund/arm rebels groups since day 1

>nothing happens to them

>>34908798
It's all over the news. It's confirmed by ISIS.

>>34908803
That's what ISIS said. That was one of their motive

>>34908701
UK is pretty much Muslims though. I feel safer in the UK than France which is weird

>>34908694
I'm only in like 250 tinder matches breh.....not gonna reach 750 in in another week :(

>>34908798
By Isis themselves

>>34908556
Brehs if I want to make a tinder but don't have a Jew book, could I make a throwaway Facebook with fake pictures and upload actual pictures of myself to tinder and put my real name? Or does tinder pull all your info from your Facebook?

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>>34908772
Their women are high test af

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>>34908798

>>34908833
Shias might tolerate a dress code like that, Salafaists and other takshits likely wouldn't.

>>34908833
Where can i sign the contract to join ISIS?

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>>34908833

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>>34908845
I think you contact them on twitter

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>>34908833
We posting isis soft porn now?

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>>34908858
>dem ankles

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>>34908840
It's okay if they wear a scarf

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>>34908857
Goddamit. I need to guard that ass. It's in great danger

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>>34908838

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>>34908858
You could at least try

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>>34908880

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>>34908890
Here's a hotty

>>34908838
>>34908886
They can shit in my face. I will lick their butts clean

no regrets

i hate The Netherlands with their flat asses. I might just kidnapp some immigrants with thick asses.

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>>34908909

>>34908909
>They can shit in my face. I will lick their butts clean
Nice fetish you got there breh

>>34908933
I think he's grosser than you now

>>34908938
Why was I gross lol?

>>34908930
ALLAH AKBARRR.

>>34908933
Yeah, i don't care. ICH MACHE ALLES

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>>34908905
Saved

>>34908961
Lol

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>>34908957
You're going to be a big target

>>34904836
tell me more about super DMZ m80

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>>34908954
You do give that vibe

>>34908977
Oh I'm really not though lol

>>34908968
Of what? big chubby bouncy asses in my face.

i'am a chubby chaser

>>34908387
wear a disguise m8

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Help a fellow brother out. I'm not roiding, but I always had high as fuck testosterone levels. Everything was fine untill this year.

>tied all the time
>lack of libido
>lack of confidence
>weak voice (i had strong as fuck)
>acne
>bloated

Could this be estrogen? What do? I live in a cunt where getting tested for it costs a fortune.

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>>34909010
Why not fight for the Christians to liberate muslim pussy?

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>>34909034
Did you get fat?

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>>34909044
False hope. You will probably only find bearded woman with smelly pussy and asses. fucking internet, it's all lies.

i hate you internet.

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>>34909080
>2015
>living in Europe and not scooping muslim refugee pussy

>>34908827
you can only pull school, work, pictures, etc from your facebook account, but you can lock down all of your facebook info to be invisible

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>>34908987
It's ok we love you just the way you are

>>34909106
T.thanks...y...you too

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>>34909101
But don't you need a decent friend list and interest/likes to get swipes?

>>34909095
lmao no way this is the real stuff

>>34909106
no, he is a pussy for not showing pictures.

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>>34909074
I got fat at my belly, got huge love handles while the rest of my body is fairly lean. I have veins on chest and arms. My face is swollen and i feel like shit. Trying to cut the fat right now.

I think my previous post wasn't send.

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>>34909110
Don't you like council estate milfs though?

>>34909113
idk, I swipe on girls, I go to the top of their queue, if they like what they see then they swipe on me. just put that you're 6'4" and have a lot of muscle from surfing.

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>>34909034
>>34909141
p-pls respond

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Big Z in for /Fraud
Got my Marine Corps Ball today
>implying I'm a brainwashed loser who needs an organization to tell him what to do
>1 more year

Quesiton:
>Ran my first cycle, coming up on end in December
>750-1000mg Test E E4D - Dbol 25mg

Should I cruise for the SAME amount of time I was on? Or Can I cut it to 2 months
How much should I be cruising on? 250mg e4d Test E? IS an AI Necessary at that point?

Does it go Blast Cruise Blast Cruise
Or
Blast Cruise PCT Blast cruise PCT ?
Thanks

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>>34909141
Ding ding ding.

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>>34909149
Neh not council estate, ones with well off husbands

>>34909136
>chicks throwing their number at me..
.I love you to mastest

>>34909167
Do you macro?
Sounds to me like you changed your diet and it's kicking your ass

>>34909164
Marines don't have balls

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>>34909182
It's not that lad. It was the same fukken shit while I was bulking.

>>34909169
This is not gonna impress me. I want your pictures.

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>>34909160
I think belly fat fucks your hormones more if you're a guy. Get lean or get some ai. Either way you should cut.

>>34909192
Have you got a gf?

>>34909197
Cheeky he's going to track you down and lick your butthole

don't do it

>>34909204
Can I take something like tamoxifen or nolva/clomid?
I'm already cutting.
>>34909206
Nah. When i started feeling like this, I lost my confidence. So no puss for me.

>>34909208
Sounds hot senpai desu

>>34909204
He said he's natural
DO YOU WANT HIM TO FOREVER THROW HIS NATTY CARD AWAY WITH SOME AI
>Natty
>AI
Pick one

>>34909221
I don't give a shit about natty card bullshit. I would roid if i wasn't 18 years old.

how can I make my voice louder? srs

>>34909261
Try caps lock CUNT

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>>34909214
Try aromasin as per pastebin. You don't want to crash your estro if you can help it.

http://pastebin.com/ys7xXYkL

>>34909336
Wow those twins are identical

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>>34909341
Like a mirror almost

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>>34909336
thanks lad, we'll see.

Hey guys, who's the best US DNP seller these days?

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>>34909221
I'm pretty sure the rule is if you're going less then 3g/wk you're still natty.

Insomnia is killing me. Fuck deca.
I started tren today. I figured if I couldn't sleep I may aswell make sick gainz while I suffer.

>>34909208
Depends. Is he high test? thick ass?

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of all the parroted myths that get spouted in the here, the crashing of estrogen I find most irritating

YOU WILL NOT CRASH YOUR ESTROGEN EVEN IF YOU TAKE 1MG ADEX ED

STUDIES CONFIRM YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO GET AT MOST 70% REDUCTION IN ESTROGEN WHICH IS ALREADY SKY HIGH DUE TO EXOGENOUS TEST. 1MG ADEX ED OR 25MG ASIN ED WILL PUT YOU AT THE SAME ESTRO LEVELS YOU WERE WHEN NATTY

OH YOUR JOINTS HURT? WOW SEEMS VERY UNLIKELY THAT SOMEONE WITH A MIND LOOSE ENOUGH TO FOSTER lLIFE DESTROYING BODY DYSMORPHIA WOULD IMAGINE MINOR SYMPTOMS, HUH

>>34909164
do you keep this to yourself or do you have a few bros that know you're un-natty?

I work with one dude with 3d delts, huge giveaway you can tell if you saw for yourself. but at least its less worry about turning in my natty card.

>>34909261
>>34909310
>>34909431
Aaaaaaay it worked breh

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>>34909431
>BODY DYSMORPHIA

It's not dysmorphia if you really do look like shit. lol

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>>34909431
Did you read the part where he said he was a natty 18 year old?

>>34909471
if you're doing 500mg test e EW and don't even lift, your body is seriously impressive to most people

you're too far gone, bubbled

>>34909471
Fuuuck. I forgot how awesome that gif was.

>tfw when I want to fap
>tfw I've already fapped 3 times

I haven't even been up for an hour

I'm on a roll like Cottonelle I was made for all of this shit

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Welp
Did my last heavy singles last week before the meet(Dec 5)

675X1 deadlift(stiff bar)
345X1 bench(paused)
605X1 squat(with wraps)

I had more in me in both bench and Deadlift but the squat was Damn close to max effort. Feeling really good about a 1650 total @242

Good ole testosterone

>>34909512
Awesome

>>34909512
Pretty impressive for a dyel with cannonball delts

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>tfw took 20+g doses of kratom at once, tens of times. probably around 40 or 50 times
>never got any kind of high
>kept trying, desperately (le opiate fiend)
>give up
>read up on "less is more theory"
>cut the dose to a 1/4th of what it was
>it works. very mild but works

sometimes less really is more

>>34909512
Mirin. You lose weight? You look less rolly-polly then remember.

>>34909512
mirin bench extremely

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>>34909535
>>34909532
Tybb
>>34909543
Yeah. Actually about the same weight wise but I lost fat. Still fatter than I want. I'll do a nice long cut after this shit.

What's been going on here? Any new fun drama?

>>34909431
>oh your joints hurt

That's also from increasing your lifts by 30lbs in two weeks. Joints take a minute to catch up to the added strength.

>can finally bounce my pecs

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>>34909555
>Still fatter than I want.
iktfb, I can't wait for winter bulk to end.

>Any new fun drama?
It's been pretty chill.

MasTest is quickly becoming the new Supermong. lol

>>34909583
That's what I hear. Lots of "I'm better than everyone". Has he posted his face? Is he as handsome as super?
Chem still alive?

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>>34909596
He's not as bad as Mong. He just trolls natties. Course I'm not sure if he's the one starting the MastTest hate/love threads of if it's actually some anon.

Chem's still alive. Last I heard he was selling again over on reddit. He's busy and doesn't have much time for us anymore. ;_;

>>34909596
Chem popped in a few days ago said his gym wifi got around the ban

>>34909613
I think mastest lies about his penis size

>>34909613
Butt hurt mods banned his whole ip block and I don't think he cares enough to go around it

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>>34909596
He's actually not bad looking nohomo

Chem is now actually in the fraud business.

>>34909613
A-are there mastest love/hate threads??

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>>34909512
Nice gyno fagget

DYEL

Roiding for this
>1650
>not 9001
>costanza.jpg