BLAHAHAHA aside, what does /fit/ think of ICF?

Take away the upper body isolations and it's pretty good.

You mean SS + conventional routines? People have been doing this decades before blaha slapped his name on it

I did ICF when I started lifting and I'm happy with the base strength it gave me.

Besides the fact that a workout is like 2 hours long, it's pretty good, yeah.

>>34864645
Why take them away? Surely they'd at least help with aesthetics? >>34864660

>>34864635
it's ok, but 5x5 akes a long time

if i'd do 3day beginner routines
i'd do something like:

3x5 squats
3x5 bench
5x5 bbrow
biceps/triceps/sidedelts/reardelts/calves/abs all 1-3x8-10 (optional)

3x5 frontsquat (or backsquat)
1x5 dl (or 2x3 dl)
3x5 ohp (or incline bb)
5x5 pullups (or chinups)
biceps/triceps/sidedelts/reardelts/calves/abs all 2x8-10
(optional)

superset 2x8-10 exercises (bis with tris, sidedelts with reardelts, calves with abs)
all that accessory work would take about 20-25min with shoirt rest periods (~1min)

>>34864692
If you are at a level where you do ICF, you really shouldn't worry about aesthetics, they are years away. Isolations don't really do anything without roids.

>>34864775
>Isolations don't really do anything without roids
and the award for the most retarded comment this year goes to: you

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>>34864775
>Isolations don't really do anything without roids

>>34864635
It's great, the upper body isos will help you not going full t rex mode from all those squats.
I would add lat raises on A and facepulls on B and do planks instead of crunches but aside from that is one of the best beginner routines, better than SS/SL desu

>>34864635
Is it leg press + hip extensions a good replacement for squats? I've started mobility exercises on sticky but cannot reach proper squat form yet.

>>34864909
Thanks for the tips pham

>>34864909
Not OP, but thank you. I was looking for some beginner advice.

>>34864775
>you really shouldn't worry about aesthetics, they are years away
Only if you do a fat powerlifter routine. Do a brosplit and you can look great in just a year.