Fitness Myths You Used To Believe

>>34856322
>p90x is the secret to getting huge
>perfect pushups will get you huge
I used to watch a lot of daytime tv

>>34856322
>>there was a 30 min window after a workout where you can consume protein; if you missed it, you made no gains

oh god
this x 1000

>>34856322
>Yoga is useless

It made all my forms perfect and made me flexible enough to suck my own dick.

>>34856322
>cardio kills gains

this bit of nonsense set me back abt 10 years desu senpai.

>>34856375
>made me flexible enough to suck my own dick.

Be honest. Do you swallow?

>>34856322
Is this a trole post? Some of those things are broscience and some are fine.

>>34856322
>no matter how big, tough, and strong you get theres always someone stronger bigger and tougher

hahah rightttt

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>>34856463
literally all of them are broscience

>>34856425
It's ridiculous to be grossed out by yourself. There's your answer.

>>34856322

What is wrong with squats and oats?

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>>34856322
Some are okay though, right?

>>34856522
Starting strength is a program and is not broscience.

>>34856606
kek ok go do starting strength for 6 months and report back

>meal timing is important as far as gains/fat loss
>you need 1g+ of protein per lb and not 0.6 - 0.7g
>different rep/set schemes actually give much different results

>>34856567
Proud of you m8. Shouldn't waste gains like that.

>>34856606
Its a kek troll program desu senpai

>>34856606

This. And squats are GOAT exercise just as oats have pretty nice nutritional value.

>>34856567
what does it taste like

>>34856378
I actually used to believe this.

Fat fags will never feel the rush of running through the forest in the morning.

I have a gym friend who is cycling steroids and eats very clean, almost religiously. He eats around 3-4k, the typical steroid head. He isn't that big or strong so he's kinda retarded. But he told me this the other day:

>I'm gunna start doing 2 a days, but should I take my protein shake before or after my 2nd workout. You can only have 1 protein shake a day bro
>you can only have 1 protein shake a day bro
>you can only have 1

He actually believes the body can only "use" 1 protein shake a day. Bro science is still very real

>>34856621

yeah or google search "SS successes" for a top laugh.

>>34856697
>all fat people who just became skinny-fat

fucking hilarious

>>34856322
>cardio kills gains
But they do. Less cals, less gains.
It's not unhealthy, tho.

>there was a 30 min window after a workout where you can consume protein; if you missed it, you made no gains

What the fucking fuck.
>fuck
fuck.

>>34856903
cardio doesn't kill gains unless you're running marathons every other day, you mongoloid

>you can't train the same movement/exercise/muscle group 2 days in a row or more
Been squatting and deadlifting daily for 3 months, gains have never come this fast before not even in starting strength.

>>34856928
lmao what did you think was gonna happen if you trained the same body part back-to-back?

>>34856960

More like ass to ass

>>34856960
The usual "yer overtraining need 72 hours to rest no gains ever" lies

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>>34856903

>mfw doing weightlifiting and a bit cardio combined and getting great gains

>>34857045
how long should I do cardio and how often in a week?

>>34856567
Your shit is also part of yourself. Gonna eat that too?

>>34856322
Well expect squats and oats and starting strenght are not myths

>>34857045
anon pls

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>>34857468
I don't really care if you think I'm lying. Just keep believing the broscience and that cardio is bad for your gains. Hope you'll make gains as great as I do

>>34857508
I asked for your routine anon.

>>34856322
agree with every one of these.

Also used to believe:
>no need for direct ab training, just compounds are good for core
>Long hair on guys never looks good
>you wont grow upper body wise if you dont also get bigger legs because your body likes to grow as one unit
>squats and deadlifts increase testosterone
>steady state cardio is useless and i should only do HIIT
>fruit juice is healthy
>testosterone booster supplements

>>34856697
holy shit lmao

>>34857620
I dunno man. Maybe test boosters don't impact muscle gains, but I swear everytime I take tribulus I'm horny as fuk 24/7 and cum buckets.

>protein window < 1 hour
>bodyweight could give me good size
>don't have to work legs (squats/deads) for a balanced build
>you can change your physical shape/insertions
>stretching is not that important to progressing the big lifts
>muscle confusion
>I can do hard cardio every day

>>34857620
Also fruit juice
Fuck that shit. Shit (like cereal) is designed for kids and parents who don't know any better

>calories in calories out
While this is sort of true, you can't really lose weight unless you cut your carbs.
>TDEE
There is nothing more inaccurate than TDEE. If you use this arbitratry measurement for anything, shove a fist up your ass.
>IIFYM
There really is no room for shit in a good diet.

>>34856629
>not 0.6-0.7g
So you don't need say 150g if you weigh 150lb?
ARE YOU SAYING I WASTED ALL THAT MONEY ON WHEY FOR NOTHING?!

>>34856514
This is true fuckwit. The best fighter in your town in still going to have their shit pushed in by a professional mma fighter. Organised crime members will shoot/rape the mms fighter and African rebels will eat the bikie.. Etc etc

>>34857739
The TDEE is best used as an aiming point for calorie measurements. Obviously you will never get a very accurate measurement of your TDEE from a simple calculator, but the science behind it being a thing is real, just like with BMR.
It is used as a ballpark estimate. Any good calorie counting/dieting will come with a little bit of trial and error in your calorie goals and counting individual meals

>IIFYM
So I guess people that are shredded never have a treat, right?

>>34857739
>While this is sort of true, you can't really lose weight unless you cut your carbs.

Are you shitting me anon
i literally lost around 3 lbs this last week and my carbs are up there between 150-200 grams.

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>>34857739
>There really is no room for shit in a good diet

>>34857697
shouldve clarified. Test boosters dont boost your test, but sure they can make you horny/boost libido, that sorta thing

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>>34857162
fuck off m8. its his body as your body is yours.

>>34857766
How's that extra chromosome treating you?

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>>34856621
>>34856643
classic SS is a troll troll.

>inb4 classic 'SS is a troll troll' troll

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>>34856621
Lel, go on pretty much any program for 6 months as a beginner and show me a program that works better. I've done 7 months of SS and i bet im stronger and look better than you do (assuming you're natty)

>>34857739
bad bait 2/10

Everything in OP
Along with:
>Upper Chest, lower chest, inner chest, outer chest
>Don't keep a neutral spine while deadlifting, SHEARING FORCES, you want hyperlordosis!
>body phenotypes affect anything
>bodyweight routines work!
>smith machine
>DON'T TAKE VITAMIN SUPPLEMENTS!
>You don't need to stretch!

The sad part is, most of these were told to me by a PT, who had a masters in Physical Education. Never trust a corporate gym cardiobunny PT. She was probably too busy sucking dick to actually learn anything not in a fitness magazine.

>>34856322
>its possible to make gains without warding off the gains goblin

SHOO SHOO

>>34857739
>While this is sort of true, you can't really lose weight unless you cut your carbs.
Maybe you can't because of your addiction to candy bars butting on a abalnced diet is perfectly possible. You're retarded.
>There is nothing more inaccurate than TDEE
It's supposed to be somewhere to start, obviously there's going to be a bit of trial and error depending on how active you are outside of exercising.
>There really is no room for shit in a good diet.
IIFYM even says to eat nutritious food as much as possible, one cheat meal of not getting all your micros isn't going to hurt you.

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>>34858538
>Keto is a troll
kek. It works you fucking retard. read a book.

>some people just don't gain weight no matter how much they eat, it's in their genes
>you know Mark? Eats like a HORSE but he's still skinny! Genes bro
I hate it that 99% of population believes this one. Can't blame them though, I did too when I was younger

also isn't this one
>you need 1g/1pound of bodyweight
mostly a good rule of thumb? How much should you be taking then?

>>34858575
It "works" but not for the reason ketards and frauds like Taubes and friends think. Keto is full of broscience and the community is horrible, it's a troll on pretty much every level.

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>>34856514
Tell that to this guy

>>34856322
So how much protein do you need then?

>>34858687
I agree with fatasses trying keto are retarded, but dropping body fat when you're already pretty lean it's great.

>>34857739
>tfw I eat a high protein, high carb, low fat diet and still lose weight
Runnerfag here, low carb is a meme. I have a full tank of glycogen so I can run, and I stay energetic and awake during the day. I never feel tired until it's time to go to bed, and this is on an moderate deficit.

>>34856652
Not the same guy but I have tasted my own semen, it tastes salty.

>>34856903
>eat more on days you do cardio
problem solved

>>34856322
>>34856354
Talking to some employees at my gym. Asking for advice on bulking
>are you getting your protein in immediately after your workout?

For fucks sake people, do you get all your advice from 60 year old bodybuilders and fad magazines? People have the power to literally research anything they want as much as they want. But they won't research their workout program or diet for shit even though it consumes half of their life.

>there was a 30 min window after a workout where you can consume protein; if you missed it, you made no gains

I've never heard the "if you missed it" part, but I have heard that the body absorbs protein for muscle regeneration more readily right after a workout. Is that also false?

related: I've also also heard that it's more effective to consume your protein throughout the day, rather than at once. Thoughts?

> Sets of 10 reps are useless if you want to build strength

I think that one's been hurting me for a while

>>34858575
or read a medical journal because it fucking doesn't

>I cut out an entire category of food energy intake and lost weight! it must be science

>>34860448
>I've also also heard that it's more effective to consume your protein throughout the day, rather than at once.
This is sort of true. The problem is proteins are handled a bit differently than carbs or fats, it has to be broken down into amino acids and processed in your kidneys. However your kidneys can only handle so much protein at a time, any more and it just doesn't get metabolized. It's possible a little is wasted if the protein doesn't get processed right away. You can technically OD on protein, but this is very rare unless you get rabbit starvation or something.

>>34860506
Kidneys don't metabolize protein at all, they filter out waste products of it. Your intestines absorb the amino acids, not your kidneys. Its true that if you have a TON of protein the rest will be stored as fat if its unneeded anywhere else. But you're not going to piss protein unless your glomeruli are fucked up

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>>34858415

>>34857087
As much as you like that doesn't impinge on your recovery capacity from lifting.
Right now I run 20 minutes a day three times a week, but I'm going to start a program in January where on the third day I do a two hour run.

>>34857739
>There is nothing more inaccurate than TDEE.
Wut? Total Daily Energy Expenditure is a quantity to be measured. It can't be inaccurate any more than "height" or "speed" or "number of apples in this barrel" can be "inaccurate".
You can be WRONG about a quantity. And a method for measuring can be inaccurate. But it's literal nonsense to say that a quantity is inaccurate.

5/10 for being nonsensical enough to make me reply.

>>34860473
it does and it doesn't. It's not magic, but it's easier for some people to control their intake that way. This is actually supported in literature.

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>>34858283
I MUST RESIST NOT TO FALL FOR A MEME MEME MEME

Spot reduction. The sticky busted that myth pretty quickly.

That what you are eating doesn't matter, as long as you meet your caloric intake threshold. I mean, this is sorta true, but obviously proteins are better than carbs so you can build muscle, and fat is better than carbs for not putting on as much fat, and the more processed your macros, the more your body will keep on.

>>34857162
Shit is literally waste, semen is reproductive fluid. Although in your case it would be a waste as well.

>>34857598
I'm training 6 days a week. I do around 80% weight lifting and 20% cardio a day.

>>34858538
>manlets
>trolling

kek a manlet made this graph didnt he

>>34858538
>fat shaming
>trolling

kek a fatass made this graph didnt she?

>>34857697
Bruh Tribulus is linked to gyno

>>34862522
Brutal

>>34857745
Some powerlifters do like .35g a pound and are completely fine, as long as you're making gains you should be fine.

>>34856354
>>34860394
>>34856322
my gymbuddies still believe that shit with ''if u don't eat protein u lose gains'' so they pressure me every fucking day to buy whey
even though I manage to eat 100g+ of protein (I'm 75kg)
also
>u must eat shitty carbs after training
why???

>>34856903
>>cardio kills gains
>But they do.

no they dont retard

>>34856354
Does anyone have a legit source that says this is the optimal time to get protein? I never thought you wouldn't make gains if you didn't get protein quickly after a workout, but I've read from sources that I trust that there is a window after a workout where it's ideal to get protein? And also carbs.

>Strength training will make you strong, aesthetic or big

LMAO

>>34857739
Retard.

>>34857766
what the fuck are you talking about?

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>Keto is great for cutting

Don't believe this shit. It only works for NEETs who only go to the gym and /fit/. If you have a job or studying it's not gonna work.q

>>34862522
SAVAGE!
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>>34864168
MUH DICK

>>34858538
literally what is the problem with cocoon mode?
don't do it if you don't want to, but you feel good with dem reactions

>>34858750
Let's say you're average person weighing 75kg, 180cm. If you have normal BF percentage, you're around 60kg of lean body mass.
So multiply that by 1.5 and you get your protein. Around 90 grams per day.
You can multiply it by 2 if you want to be absolutely sure, so that means 120g of protein per day.
Even if you're 90kg 185cm at 10% BF (which is among top for natural lifters), you won't need more that 160g of protein per day MAX.
I believe reason why this myth came to be is because nutritional advice was given by people on steroids. When you're on steroids, your body can synthesize protein more effectively, and thus use more to build more muscle.
However, if you're natural lifter, even if you're genetically top and you train to perfection and you eat perfectly, you won't gain more than 250 grams of muscle per day.
250 g divided by 7 days is around 35 grams of muscle built per day. Keep in mind these are gains for those who are new to lifting, if you're veteran lifer you'll gain far less.
So just use logic, why would you need 200 grams of protein or more per day?

>>34863744
>why???

To get an insulin spike. It is legit and has nothing to do with anabolic window. Positives for someone who goes to the gym three times a week and does nothing else might be neglictable, but if you are training twice a day, it starts to count.

>eat clean all the time or you wont make it

nigger I eat whatever I feel like and make it fit my macros, I've made sick gains and girls are mirin

I dont eat crap, but I'll have myself a muffin or some shit here and there. Be reasonable, you dont need to fucking be a pro to get great results. I hate this.

>>34863744
insulin spike to lower cortisol (stress hormone) which is largely catabolic and just fucking unnecessary

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>>3486252
No chill

>>34857778
IIFYM isn't the occasional treat on the weekend.

>>34860473

>read a medical journal

http://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587%2815%2900367-8/abstract

>>34864168
so wrong, im on keto with a job/study and i go to the gym 5x /week, easy as fuck with a little bit of willpower, so bullshit

>>34856673
My literal Bro used to try to convince me that you had to take protein every two hours to get any gains because unused protein would be expelled from the body every two hours

>>34857620
>squats and deadlifts increase testosterone
Is this not true? [citation needed]
>Long hair on guys never looks good
So rarely m8, so very rarely...

>>34864942
Maybe if you drive a forklift or study liberal arts.

>>34864168
This. I work as a cook in a restaurant, so it's super hot and I'm constantly moving for 10 hours at a time. Keto made me feel like death since I had no glycogen. I need carbs for my job, I can only imagine keto is done by morbidly obese people who don't have to move.

>>34856322
>Starting Strength
is a legitimate beginner program to learn how to lift. You only become fat if you do GOMAD which only skinny young men should do if they can't afford to have a proper diet.

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>>34856514
>mfw yujiro hanma

>>34865431
I did a 900 calorie cut while neet and it was fine. Currently doing a 500 calorie cut and I feel like shit as a full time student. Eating at maintenance wrecked me while doing manual labour

>>34866665
1 off

>>34856697
There actually are some good transformation mixed in with the memes from fit

>>34856322
it's funny how all of them are true or at least have a scientific base at the begining but became some completely ridiculous shit with the gym rats imagination

>>34865505
gomad is as legit as ss
it's just that it is for average young men
if you're 40%bf you're not an avergae youg man, you have a serious problem which makes you in a special category
no one considers it normal to tell cripples that they'll have to adapt the ss program to their own condition

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>>34856322

>squats and oats
>cardio killing gains as a new lifter
>starting strength

Pic related for those.

Also

>protein window 30 minutes after lifting

God damn. I remember that it was great advice for skellies to get them to cram something in them before they were too lazy and sore to eat properly.

Personally, after lifting I lost my appetite and got nausea if I ate or had a protein shake an hour after my workout. I was a fatty but train oly lifts, and the cns burn after lifting crippled me.

>ez curl is better for biceps
>isolation is the only way to get big
>deadlifts are bad for you
>mixed grip is a guranteed bicep tear
>you can't squat heavy without a belt
>ass to grass destroys your knees and just above parallel doesn't.

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>>34856621

Baka

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>>34868487
>6 months
Longer or juicin'

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>>34856903

It's more about cns adaptation as a beginning lifter.

If you do cardio, your cns isn't selling out on adapting to lifting heavy.

So your noob gains will be compromised dramatically and you won't have the meteoric rise in lifts that most new trainees have. It's not bro science, it's just simple cns adaptation for new lifters.

After you're no longer new, then you should definitely add cardio unless you're specifically training for a strength sport. HIIT is the best.

>>34868487
pretty sure it's not ss though

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>>34868541
What's the point in noob gains?

If, as people keep saying, noob gains is more than just your CNS adapting, it's just strength going up pointlessly with no actual gains

Doesn't that just hamper aesthetics? If you're getting stronger but staying just as skelly? inb4 >muh functional strength

>>34856322
>my 8" dick is small

I really wish i measured it earlier in life...

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>>34857620

>all those truths and the few actual bs science in your posts

Read the fucking sticky anon. Jesus christ.

>you don't have to do heavy compounds to grow, who needs cns adaptation anyway?
>heavy compounds aren't directly related to core training and trunk stability, as well as not increasing hypertrophy and mass near your abdomen

>>34868531
Agreed. There's no way that's 6 months, even with juice.

>>34856322

>anybody in the gym is in any way interested in me, my workout, or judging me because they can lift more

The secret of getting comfortable in the gym is realising what nonsense this is.

>>34864168

>implying that's a meme

It's great for cutting. There's an adaptation period where your body gets used to using fat deposits and dietary fat as energy instead of glucose, but it sheds fat like a motherfucker. Legitimately, it only breaks down Bodyfat so you keep your gains.

But it takes a few days of adaptation and you cannot go keto on low fat content foods. Load shit up with cheese and eat fatty meats. Butter is your friend, and so is olive oil if you really can't deal with those foods.

>>34868576
noob gains are the part where you progress fast
firstly becasue you get better at form and you body learns to get more efficient at task it does often
then because of cns adaptation
and becasue you body adapts more easily to something near the average:
a 17 yo guy who's been playing vidya his whole life gains in the first 3 months the muscles he should have had naturally by living an healthy life
the 3 next months he gets what he could need to live and thus his body adapts fast
we're not made to bench 3 plates that's why it's so hard to get there

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>>34868531

>only 6 months on a beginner program
>causing the great change

The first pic is 8 months and the last pic is 1 year after the first one.

There is no program you can do that creates serious aesthetics in 6 months. SS plus bulking will get you big and strong the fastest as well as put on the most muscle in the shortest amount of time.

Anyone who thinks they got joocy after 6 months is a dyel that's delusional or in highschool.

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>>34868576

>what's the point of noob gains

You get stronger.

If you're stronger than you can lift more weight for higher reps than someone who isn't strong.

Lifting heavy weight for 8-12 reps instead of skelly weight for 8-12 reps means you make sickening gains.

Also it's great to do for proper form. Cns adaptation is extremely important in new lifters. You can lift heavy weights, and not only that, you are now able to use your muscles properly due to the cns adaptation so you're not a flailing retard in the gym that uses baby weight for over a year.

Proper muscle contraction is extremely important. Ask a grill to flex and that's what a standard non lifter is like. Can't even contract muscles properly.

>inb4 muh functional strength

But it is. It's function is to get you sickening gains when you leave SS and move on to advanced programming and leave the wifebeater skellies in the dust.

>>34868435
True then again 90% of people who try SS don't even read the book or the sticky and expect insane results, FROM A STARTING PROGRAM.

>>34856567
If you sneeze into a tissue do you lick up the snot?

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>>34868872
>losing those mucus proteins

Of courshe!

>>34862522
B T F O
T
F
O

>>34862522
BTFO

>>34864750

That article isn't disagreeing with the person you're replying to. Less calories, more weight loss, regardless of the macros.

>>34856514
how is this not true?

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>>34856322
>you have to eat meat to make gains

Can't wait to live longer than all you meat eaters

>>34856375
>he literally sucks his own dick
I bet you also /thread your own posts

>>34863805
just eat a meal sometime before or after, its really not a huge deal

>>34869143
i remember this guy

>>34860646
No no, you literally do shit out excess protein.

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>>34856606
>there's people still believing mark rippetoe's bullshit

oh man why people have to be this dumb

>deadlifting will fuck your back

it's actually the opposite. i stopped deadlifting and a month later started getting lower back pain from squats.

>>34858411
Bodyweight routines do work. You just cany do pull ups you dat faggot.

Also pushs ups and pull ups arent the only bodyweight excercises that exist

>>34871539
Yeah you can shit it out, not piss it out, buddy.

>>34856606
it can be both

>>34856903
cardio improves gains through e.g. angiogenesis, insulin sensitivity. cals burned = just eat more you dumbfuck

>>34856322
>you need 1g/1pound of bodyweight
this is real science

but saying that lifting and eating less than that is a waste of time = broscience