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Summer is right around the corner.
Youre not still bulking are you?

Post info and questions about- calorie cuts, supps/stacks, routines, nutrition, fighting the hunger etc
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yesterday i ate a large tub of movie popcorn with butter

how many calories was that?

also i got a large butter grease stain on my favorite jeans right on my dick area
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just started an ecy stack. y in the morning, ec in the afternoon and early evening.
down from 192 to 178 in about three months with lifting and cardio. about 1lb per week. eating 1800 kcal per day

this is the leanest ive ever been. feelsgudman
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i am
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>>31753976

How much yohimbine are you taking? I have a bottle I was using to sub for ephedrine for a while, didn't feel shit from it like ephedrine

Ephedrine = good shit
Yohimbine = dafuq
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tfw gonna be carb bloated and soft looking all summer

tfw dont even care
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Is whole wheat bread good for a cutting?
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About to begin first cut ever tomorrow. Already went through meal prep for week one. Now I need to fix my stack. Creatine for cutting: y/n? In general, what are the top tier supplements for cutting?
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>>31754189

Carbs are shit for cutting

Meat and veg, don't be a bitch
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>>31754216

Don't stop taking creatine

5g a day forever

Water retention but you'll make up for it in hair loss :^)
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>>31753976
How tall are you?
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>>31753572
the bulk never ends for me.
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>>31754237
Veg are carbs. complex carbs are great for cutting fuck off.
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>>31754272

topkek'd
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>>31753572
I used to be fat during my entire childhood. two years ago I dropped 30 kilos and put on a decent amout of muscle, but there is this layer of really soft and jello-y fat that absolutely refuses to go away no matter how fucking hard I try. I got so pissed off to a point where I stopped lifting completely for 3 months

what the fuck do I do with this fucking shit nigger cunt layer of fucking fat, guise? I've triet fasting, low carb diet, a fuck ton of cardio, fucking starving myself to a point where I was visibly losing muscle mass and looking like a junkie and the fucking layer of fat was fucking still there.

started lifting last week again and I'm just trying to ignore it completely and eat at maintenance and lift like I do normally

pic related. this is the lowest I've ever managed to go on bf%
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>>31754313

moderate deficit + active lifestyle. you seem like you always went balls deep into cutting and never actually took your time. try that.
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I have been cutting since the 3rd week in January. I started at 216 and today I was 203. No lift has decreased and a few have gone slightly up. Went down a pants size. FeelsGoodMan.jpg
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>>31754369
yeah I always end up getting more and more frustrated and make the diet more and more extreme gradually when I don't see the results. it's mostly because I feel like I'm wasting my workout sessions and not getting gains because of the cutting
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>>31754152
Yohimbine is less effective the fatter you are.
Take it fasted and do light-mid cardio 30m after the dosage.
Ephedrine is just a stim that suppresses appetite and give you about a 5-10% metabolic boost.
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I'm 6' 193lbs. Should I bother using ephedrine or yohimine?

What supplements should you be taking on a cut?
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>>31754152
taking 15 mg and 200mg caffeine when i take it. definitely like the ec doses more than the yc doses

>>31754216
keep taking creatine

>>31754265
5' 10"
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>>31754609
>>31754631
beta-Alanine before training as well
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>>31754646
Why beta-alanine?
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>>31754734
Well I went all through examine.com and besides creatine it seemed to be the only supplement with numerous scientific studies endorsing its use to aid in strength training. Also the powder tastes semi pleasant.
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>>31753572
>cutting in Summer
>cutting when your body on average burns 200 calories less than it would in winter

Summer is easy mode for bulk
>muh beach body for the girls
It takes personality to get girls, something you cannot gain from cutting.

Only cut in summer if you're a hambeast.
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>>31753572
I've just been eating at a 500 calorie deficit and I've been losing fat steady, about a lb or 2 a week.
I'm at uni so it's usually
>4 scoops of whey throughout day
>Cup of scrambled eggs, half a bagel, and fruit for breakfast
>Lean meat and veggies at caf for lunch and dinner
>Grilled chicken sandwhich from on-campus restaurant right before I go to bed at around 11pm.

All adds up to about 2500 calories. Pretty much the same as my bulk, subtracting 900 calories a day of white rice I made in my dorm.

No supps besides whey, not even caffeine.
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>>31754781
my homie says it gives him a lot of energy. ec stack does that plenty fine for me.

want to get my hands on some alb tabs
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>>31754272
Jesus christ. 2000 calories and 20g protein??
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i do 2 refeeds one on monday and the other on friday since i eat like 60g more of carbs but i lower my protein and fat intake so that calories stay the same
Tell me /fit/ how much am i fucking up?
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>>31754952
2500 for a cut really im 6ft2 205 and ive been eating 1600 for the past 3 months loosing a pound or 2 a week
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>>31754669
>>31755162
Does taking caffiene at night keep you awake on an ec stack?
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>>31755287
not at all.

If you're still eating at a defecit you're not really doing a re-feed, you're just carbing up.
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>>31755296
5' 10" at 178 down from 192 and eating 1800 cals a day now. I want to bulk again...

>>31755299
i try to take my last dose by 4pm. 5pm at the very latest. so no not usually
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Should I add back exercise calories back into my daily budget or nah?

Without doing so I'm around a 1000 calorie deficit everyday which I feel isn't sustainable long-term but I still feel alright. Should I eat back the extra calories expended or nah?
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Will taking 10mg of yhcl with clen make my heart pop
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>>31755299
What the actual fuck?
Caffeine is a stimulant, it only works in the morning. Idiot.
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>>31753572
>Summer is right around the corner.
>Youre not still bulking are you?
Found the guy struggling to bench 2plate.
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>>31755369

Nah dude I wouldn't. Cuts suck, I'd just try to get it done as quick as possible
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>>31755376
full potato
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Has anyone tried alternate day fasting here? Any thoughts?
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>>31755380
increased my bench to 245x1 on my cut actually
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>>31755369
I wouldnt reccomend doing a 1000 calorie cut.

At that point you're gonna lose a lot of energy and not be able to work out properly, get horrible sugar cravings and end up binging because you're literally starving your body, not be able to get your daily macros in (unless your maintinence is like 3.5k calories), feel groggy and grumpy all day, fuck up your hormones,lose muscle mass etc.

Everybody tries that shit when they first start out
>hurr im gonna run 10k every day and eat 1000kcals and it'll only take me 6 weeks to lose all the weight!
and find out it isnt sustainable when they end up eating a whole cake three days into thier cut.

Its like trying to cook a whole chicken by turning your oven up to 450 degrees celsius and think it'll cook three times as quick. It doesnt work like that.
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>>31754152
I take the y with the first two doses of ec. It seems to work best.
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>>31755448
>increased
:>

Neat. I bet the fluffers doing machine curls are super jelly.
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>>31755469
>>31755369
my bad, misread your post. Nah you're alright if the calories are burned off. You can eat them back if you want a little more energy but up to you.
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>Not just running DNP a month before you plan on going outside and acting like an autist
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>>31755488
>PERMABULK DETECTED
INITIATE FAKE FOOD FLARES
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>>31755398
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>>31755669
>PERMABULK
More like "never starve and get weak for bitches"
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>>31755313
Refeeds help me keep the gainz going i have gone from squat 315 to 350 through this cut my deadlift on the other hand is stuck
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>>31755705
But that is the meaning of life you bas
SURVIVE AND REPRODUCE
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>>31754313
Bodydismorphia.jpeg
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>>31753666
THAT'S WHAT YOU GET FOR CHEATING
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>>31755275
yup. feels like a fucking brick in your stomach, but goddamn it works.
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r8 progress
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>>31755705
ive never seen my abs. thats why im cutting.
stay fat
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>>31754435
Your squat should have gone up by at least the weight you lost
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>>31755299
Just take it midafternoon. At least 30 minutes before you eat dinner for max effect.
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It's hard being a drunk on a cut, bros.

Don't ask about the crackers.
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>>31756201
>Jameson - Irish whiskey, 8 jigger
>8 jigger

dafuk?
also- lay off the booze anon. your body has a hard enough time recovering on a cut without alcohol.
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Guys, how the fuck do you ask a woman that you see in public that is working for her number?

I'm cutting and feeling more confident and such and can make small talk but how do I go about asking for their number?

Everytime I run the situation in my head it sounds so fucking autismal

>Hey, random I know, but I think you're cute and I'd like to take you on a date sometime

Is this acceptable? Any stories or help would be appreciated

I hate my life
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Newfag here, is cutting just reducing your calories taken in?
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>>31754669
where can I find some EC stack in the states?
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>>31756245
I'd never heard the term before either but it's a shot. I know I know...I didn't plan on drinking today but I'm a weak willed bitch.
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>>31756276
talk to her, bring conversation to food, talk about favorite places to eat, maybe we should eat there sometime.

or something i dunno im autistic.
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>>31756276
does she give you "the look"? if so just go say hello and ask her if she wants to meet up for a drink or something later. body language nigga, lrn2 read it.
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>>31756276
"Hey, I'm on my way to meet up with some friends, but I know I'll be kicking myself later if I don't try to get your number."
As long as you can style your way through that, you've got a solid chance. Won't work every time, but hey, it puts them on the spot, makes them feel special, and shows you've got other interests AND friends.
(even if you don't)
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>>31756339
but she's working and I don't want to take too much of her time

I literally have zero clue what to say after "hey my names anon how are you" which is why I'd want to just go straight for it and rely on my looks and the way I say it instead of attempting to have a conversation with her
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>>31756276
>hey whatre you doing after this?
>idk no plans
>we should go get a drink or something

>>31756277
read the sticky newfuck.

>>31756295
get the e and the c from walgreens. have to actually go up to the pharmacy counter but its not really a big deal. i get bronkaid but my walgreens now has primatene. thinking about switching it up
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>>31756276
>this might be kind of forward, but are you single? Want to go out sometime? Great let me get your phone number
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>>31756295
You can buy bronk aid in any cvs/walgreens
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>>31756277
Yep. Ideally you limit your carbs and take in as much lean protein as possible while eating at a deficit. The goal is to retain as much muscle as possible and lose fat.
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>>31756356
let's say they don't give me any look because they don't see me but then I get their attention and say hi and they smile and say hi.

>hey I know this is random but I think you're cute and i'd like to maybe get a drink with you sometime or something
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>>31756381
>bronk aid
ok so do i still take the recommended amount as stated in>>31754669
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>>31756276
>hey, do you know where is the nearest starbucks?
>sure, it's right...
>actually i don't really care about it, just thought you were really cute and i wanted to talk to you, i'm anon
>oh... lol, i'm ...
>proceed to small talk
>i see you're busy right now(since she's working), how about you give me your number and we can talk again tonight?
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>>31756389
Thank you. What would you reccomend for lean protein? Chicken and the like?
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>>31756417
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>>31756417
Chicken breast is by far the best source of lean protein. And whey protein powder. But yeah, if you are a newfag you should definitely read the sticky.
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>>31756417
Chicken breasts and proton shakes all day bruv
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>>31756510
>>31756550

tuna is pretty goat for cutting too. just found some with 28g of pro and 120 kcal per can
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>on a long cut after 19 year permabulk
>was on and off the wagon for a few months
>recently decided to get serious and my motivation to eat better has literally flipped 180 degrees

I can't even force myself to eat snacks/chips/cookies/soda/etc. it's such an odd feeling for me.

Also how do you guys handle getting candy around holidays? Ive got a bucket of assorted easter candy and i feel it would be rude not to eat it but i don't want to eat it. I know that sounds silly but i just some other opinions here
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>>31754538
>less effective the fatter you are.

do you have source on this? given the way it works it seems like it would be more effective since fat people generally burn more fat at a quicker pace than skinnier folks
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>>31756201
>dinner consists of milk, protein, and saltines

DoingItRight.jpg
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>5'8"
>265 -> 195 since late September last year
>18.5-18.7% bf
>Goal is 12% bf, which I imagine will be around the 165 range

>Thanks to an anime con, Palm Sunday (Greek Ortho here), and me being a shit, I've gone over my 1000 cal deficit almost every day in the past week and only lifted once
>at the same time, like OP said, everyone is praising me and telling me to stop and that I'm addicted
>at the same time, cheat meals are just relapsing me into my food addiction
>at the same time, joining clubs to make friends and do more stuff in college, which is taking up gym time
>at the same time, it's the time in the semester where there is way more school work
>at the same time, my deficit is causing my lifts to plateau and my strength is toast

What the fuck do I do? I just looked at my LoseIt and realized how complacent Im getting and now I'm feeling like a sadcunt.
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>>31753572
Implying that going to the beach to bathe in the radiation of a fusion reaction is a good thing to do every year.

Morons
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>>31757576
>like OP said

I should note that this is a repost from another cutting thread from earlier today
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>>31753666
A large tub? Probably 1500-2000. A single back of popcorn with butter is 500.

>>31753976
Does the y give you an energy boost? I'm doing EC twice a day, at 8am and noon, but was considering adding in a dose of yoh in the evening.
>>31754189
No carbs are generally bad
>>31754216
Creatine is good. Top tier supps for cutting are caffeine/ephedrine ("EC stack") and yohimibine
>>31755299
Depends on your sensitivity to it, I take EC at 8am and noon and actually feel more tired in the evenings because its all out of my system. If I took it at 4pm I probably wouldn't sleep til 2am
>>31756821
If you live at home, give it to your family. If you are in college just leave it in a common area in your dorm/apartment
>>31757576
Sakuracon?
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>>31757735
Anime Boston. Happened simultaneously.
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>13-14% bf
>rack the disiprine to go any lower

fuck me

but i am small so theres that
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>tfw I'm the only anon here using roids to cut

It's like you guys don't even want to look good.
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>>31756399
There is a picture of a box of bronkaid next to the directions...You do the math.
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little trick that helps prevent me from overeating at night when hunger hits me the hardest is to brush my teeth immediately after having my last meal. seems stupid but it works
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Question for any of you with knowledge on EC stack. Should I time my food intake around my doses or would it not matter? Ie not to eat 30 mins before or after consumption etc.
Thanks, pls no bioscience only if you actually have credible knowledge on it
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I will literally never understand how people complain about hunger. Hunger is the easiest thing in the world to tolerate. Low blood sugar sucks though because you're really weak and tired.
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>>31754462
well m8 an extreme diet actually causes your body to retain fat, like a survival mode sort of thing, as well as lowering your metabolism so its really the worst thing you can do.

>INB4 broscience
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>>31756375

>primatene

Tablets? Or did they bring back the HFA inhaler? I assume inhaling it would get it into your system a lot faster? Sounds very abusable
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>Lose 4kg
>Finally see my ab lines
>Go on lan party
>Energy drinks and eating out everyday
>Gain them back
Please kill me.
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I do not get it. Why dont you all jump into the clen train?
It gets you lean fast as fuck.
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>>31759947
Because then I have to go to shady sites and pay in bitcoin.
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>>31759915
Man i wish i still had people to do Lan parties until i lost sense of what day it is.
id happily gain 4 kg to do that just one more time
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>>31760022
You don't have huge lan parties in your country? Like ex, Dreamhack and The Gathering?
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>>31760022
Tfw no friends to go to The gathering with
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>>31760064
I'm there every year since 2010.
You can easily go alone and make friends while there.
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>tfw another kg lost
Started strictly under 1800 diet 2 weeks ago, now gone from 80 to 78.

I wish I could go lower than that, but I actually need to think straight for the whole day.

>go IF, etc
Already doing it, but food is all I think about until lunch, and I need to have a clear head in the morning. Pisses me the fuck off.
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>>31754669
>tfw nobody sells ephedrine in my country
>Latvia
>not a shithole
Fucking retarded shit
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can someone help me out? i want to do my first cut but have no idea what my macros should be
Im 180cm and 80kg
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>>31760401
>1800 calories a day
>have only lost 2 kgs in 2 weeks
How small are you already?
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>>31763261
currently 77kg. Why?
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>>31756065
dont be retarded.
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>>31753572
>cutting
Enjoy staying small
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>>31763477
seems fine. he asked because 1800 is a deep cut for most people. but it seems to be an ok amount for you.
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>>31758684
Bump pls
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>>31754669
>tfw ephedrine possession is punishable by prison in Norway
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>be in Southern Hemisphere
>going into winter
>still gonna cut cause bloated high test and Dbol moon face is disgusting

Lord save me
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I can't get a hold of ephedrine where i am, anyone have any alternatives that aren't DNP? planning to start a hard cut/keto diet in May, then probably just do some yohombine in June to finish it off.

currently at ~11-12% bf
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Going to get some ephedrine today. What do I ask the person behind the counter for?
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>>31756358
>shows you've got other interests AND friends.
kek'd
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>>31753572
I want to cut so hard, but I'm still skelly mode
>feels bad man
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>>31764286
Do you have visible abs?
If yes lean bulk
If no cut
It's summer. Bitches only care about abs
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>>31764088
wooden stool and coil of rope
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>>31760013
Not really.
I am pretty sure a gym-bro can help you out.
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I just started cutting and went from 98.4kg to 96.kg. I'm doing an under 2000cal diet and also cardio 4 times a week and gym 2 times a week. Is it possible to keep this progress or will I keep losing less and less.
also i'm 1.88m tall.
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Should I still work out abs and biceps on my cut
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>>31764986
Why the hell you think you shouldn't?
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>>31763557
I'm amazed how much cutting an extra 200 calories is killer.

Started cut at around 2700 then lowered to 2500, plateaued and now at 2250 and good god it suddenly got hard.
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>>31764986
You should work out everything.
When cutting your body goes into shock.
Your starving it.
It needs to metabolise energy from your body now.
The less you use your muscles the more likely your body will be to break down muscle to use as energy.
If you're continously putting in work in the gym and tearing up your muscles your body will realize that for some godforsaken reason you still need the muscles during this trying period.

This is my broscience but I confident I'm correct.
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Just started my cut fo real yo. EC stack and a deficit. What do you goyim use for calculating your macros?
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>>31765125
>Somehow tearing down houses while not rebuilding them will make them stay there more than not touching them
Alright mate
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>>31763736
Mann opp a din fitte, bestilte 150x8mg fra centurysupplements og ingenting skjedde.
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>>31765420
Thanks for the shitpost
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