Fashion Thread

>>12613086
Which show was the best?

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>>12613160

CdG H+ was a standout show, probably the best collection from the line in years, last collection that was this good was maybe fw11. cdgh+ has always been off kilter in that it's very meta : no matter what the seasonal theme was, it was always filtered through cdgh+ staple codes / vocabulary / construction, and so while it was always respected / never disrepected, it never felt "of the now", it always was "cdg doing cdg", but recently (esp. with the exhibition at the met and cdg as a brand having gained wider recognition as a brand that you should know and respect if you're a "fashion person") it seems more fashion ppl (whereas previously it was only cdg diehards that really appreciated it) are feeling like they need to like it, but it was never "of the moment" enough for them to really get into, but this collection really broke through that barrier and gave the fashion normies something to chew on while still remaining very cdg, while at the same time offering something very exciting for cdg fans

cottweiler was good for how on point its direction was in relation to the zeitgeist, very of the now, idk how it pulls apart as a line / product though, havent looked that closely into it but the few times i have, lots of pcs have been kinda weak on their own

and on the opposite end of that spectrum gosha was particularly great for the product, lots of covetable pieces apart from the bread&butter graphics. in previous collections the non-gfx pieces were still good in getting the overall message across but never felt like they stood on their own, and they always went on steep discount at the end of the season from what i saw

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>>12613442

JWA is usually one of my favourites but this season it was a little weak for me, because his charm has always been his quirky, autistic in a good way signature, but this season he decided to take a step back and pare it down to be more "minimalistic", which in theory could have been a hit if he hit the right balance and infused wardrobe staples with just the right amount of quirk but alot of the pieces missed that mark for me and ended up looking "just" autistic, not autistic in a good way.

this season really felt like the time for new brands. the old guard has been consistent but one by one these past few years alot of the brands have undergone massive change / fallen off, and now everytime its fashion week, it feels like to me the meat isnt really there anymore, not alot of brands to be looking out for.

in contrast ive been seeing a fuckton of new brands pop out of nowhere on instagram and really start gaining exposure / followings, and im not talking about gay streetwear brands im talking contemporary brands (like pic related). joseph is one to look out for for sure, but there are so many others i cant even list right now. although i do feel that joseph would benefit from a more atmospheric artistic direction in their imagery for consumers like me who aren't purely product / wardrobe oriented, but need to be sold on the all-encompassing vision of the brand to really invest in it. i feel like if the line was presented in a way that told a story, it would add so much to the brand, because the name "joseph" alone evokes so many ideas, but idk maybe that's not what they're trying to do. but dope stuff regardless

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>>12613465

Loewe was solid as always but being a ss season it felt a little weaker especially since the last fw was so FUCKing strong. i assume that the rtw isnt that important for loewe since theyre a leather goods brand but i really wish jw would establish a more definite core look for loewe menswear apart from the fisherman denim and tank tops, because as dope as the stuff is alot of the time its lost to me in the overembellishment which would still be dope if it was fleshed out with a stronger foundational line of wardrobe friendly staples etc

>>12613481

Personally ive really gone back to basics as of late, and i really mean back to FUCKING basics. my insight of the following may be biased by my personal direction, but at the same time i feel like a part of why ive been going back to basics is because its a dominant trend in the zeitgeist and i cant help but be influenced by it. anyways because of this, the very artistically driven progressive labels predominantly based out of the UK have started to feel a little passe for me. im sure its completely different for the people living there and who are part of that right now, but for me as someone who lives in a completely different cultural demographic, the initial impression these brands have werent strong enough to permeate into / influence any real life decisions in my mode of dress.

they definitely do provide some food for thought and a nice balance to the dominance of overly commercial brands, but to me at the end of the day, both these polarities are not strong, good design for me always hits a sweet spot and is well balanced, or able to be balanced out easily with other styling choices.

which brings me to a related point : the reason for my shift back to basics has been because of a shift in my lifestyle where i've been undertaking a personal project, and being on the go all the time and constantly being immersed in a variety of real life situations, many of which are removed from the ideal of the high fashion utopia, really hits you hard with a reality check especially if you've been a fashion nerd your entire life, always trying to push boundaries and try something different.

the reason so many kids today into fashion go ALL OUT FASHION, often on the verge of fashion victimhood, is because they're, well, kids, and they have no real lifestyle where they need to be presentable while still projecting an accurate image of their personal tastes / internal self.

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>>12613500

forgot pic

like fahsion east, MAN, etc... the last wave of actual strong labels were charles jeffrey loverboy / wales bonner, and other than that i feel like most of these sponsored brands are interchangeable and were simply at the right place at the right time, but cant stand on their own, they're just another london / csm / art school brand who just happened to be fortunate enough to have access to the resources to produce a collection, theres so much talent coming from schools that dont have these things, to me it seems like its about luck but i might also be completely fucking wrong so dont take my word for it

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>>12613509

and going back to kids being fashion victims

i used to fucking hate it when people said shit like "thats unwearable" "you cant dress like that past the age of 25", but you start actually living life and you realize these words definitely have merit. but the problem is the fags who would say shit like this were always non-fashion fags, like peeps who never actually gave fashion serious consideration. where i'm coming from with this is from the perspective of someone who has gone through like every possible phase / take / perspective on fashion and dress, so while i do still really fucking appreciate the "unwearable" shit and at one point was all for that shit, again, you need to balance it and find a place for it in the context of your place in the real world. and that's actually the coolest shit anyways because it's like, yo that guy looks so fucking dope but still doesn't look like a fashion faggot, his shits effortless but still stands out

loved martine rose up til last season but this season it went way off the deep end, like TOO fuckign normal, and with balenciaga and vetements also going off the fucking deep end this season it feels like too many normal as fuck clothes with a hefty as fuck price tag. she could have done some really directional off kilter shit with the entire rock climbing thing but yeah nah this was way too normal for me sorry

last season there were some kinks here and there with clever fabrications but saw none of that this season, u could literally thrift this collection with 90% resemblance

>>12613465
Jwa was red hot trash tbqh
bland, undesirable, tacky etc etc, basically everything that makes jwa good is thrown out the window
the whole stripping it back to basics and emphasis on nice clothes over concept works for designers like dries, but for someone like jwa whos main thing has always been conceptual and challenging, i don't think he really knows what he is doing in this aspect of the industry enough to make these types of clothes, and make them desirable to consumers

>>12613521

i think most fashion peeps would benefit greatly from taking into consideration the following points

1. am i putting too much importance on myself as defined by others recognition of the image im projecting, or my SELF, and my real standing in the real world? anyone can put on a jw anderson piece and have that "fashion person" cred, and walk around like "yo the people who know about jwa are gonna see me and think im dope" but most of the time that person actually ends up looking silly as fuck because u see someone like that and its so evident that that person is walking around thinking exactly that, like "YO I KNOW FASHION I KEEP UP WITH SHIT AND I BOUGHT THIS CONSIDERING THE PROCESS IN WHICH ID PUT IT ON AND GAIN RECOGNITION FROM OTHERS WHO ALSO KNOW ABOUT IT" (but who end up actually thinking ur cringey)
2. Could i take 1 thing off right now?
3. do i know the fucking basics? do i have the classical foundations of dress and style drilled into my subconscious, is my eye trained to be able to see that and build upon it, and play around with it? IT ALWAYS STARTS WITH THE CLASSICS
4. or u could work backwards instead of #2, start with 1 fashion item at a time only and slowly add subtle upgrades / change up elements / cuts etc to hit the balance

3 is particularly important in todays day and age because the codes of dress have been so mucked up and bastard vocabulary / composition formulas have been devised that have no foundation in anything classical that its so jarring and makes no sense (distressed denim with technical knit trainers? with grunge graphic tees?) and the kids are lost in this bullshittery, you have to know the rules to break them effectively but theyre just jumping into clothes in this era where people dont even realize those rules even exist, to them this new bastardized look is the rule, and they end up looking ass 100% of the time

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>>12613543

a good brand to start looking at to understand classic vocabulary that is still able to remain relevant time and time again is Prada

if you understand prada's positioning and vocabulary you're probably good to go

to most new fashion people prada probably just looks fucking weird and old and outdated but nah son this is what consistency and timeless signature looks like

on a related point so many people havent looked at fashion pre-2014/2015 and thats a recipe for fashion victimhood and ignorance / unconscious incompetence

but its also one thing to see older fashion but its a whole other thing to consider and be able to understand previous design aesthetics in the context of the time it was proposed in, even if you hadnt lived to remember that era / wasnt aware of fashion and the world back then. its hard but looking at enough of it trains your eye. show fashion peeps any margiela mens collection from the 00s and theyd be like what the fuck is this shit? this supposed to be fashion? looks too normal

without realizing that that was what was very clever at the time and how it differed from other designers at that time and managed to stay relevant

you see old fashion week reports from the 80s and 90s and theres a fuckton of brands that are no longer around who still share some of the same elements of that time, but you see the works of the designers who are still around and kicking at the time, and you'll notice that while they still had 80s/90s shit going on, that their shit was timeless and could still stand today whereas the defunct designers were ***JUST*** 80s, ***JUST*** 90s, etc

i also dont think most fashion people realize that a "fashion designer" isnt some magical career that stands on its own as a "designer of fashion", but is actually very much more like a "product / industrial designer" in the process, that just happens to work with fashion as a medium.

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>>12613562

what im trying to say at the end of that post is :


the masses think "fashion designer" is "FASHION designer", with an emphasis on FASHION, but in reality its more like "fashion DESIGNER", with an emphasis on DESIGNER, as in a person whose profession concerns the DESIGN of an object first, but one whose position within civilization / culture belongs to the world of fashion

its kinda hard to understand unless you've actually been on the production end, unless you've actually tried designing shit on your own, and i dont mean diy projects, i mean actually trying to undertake / pursue designing / engineering a product that REAL PEOPLE in the REAL WORLD will pay REAL MONEY for to use in REAL LIFE

side note rick is fucking strong as always. god damn no words needed hes a designers designer

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>>12613567

same with thom. FUCK i love designers who have such a distinctive signature that they can fuck around with season after season endlessly, whose work is defined by their linear lifestyle and universe. for me as a millenial being bombarded by and having access to all the past eras and who is defined culturally as being the copy and paste collage generation of collectives, i really envy them cuz they are able to be so linear in their alignment (life = work) whereas people like me are influenced by too many things that they are equally into

but that really comes down to living your life first and having that aspect really locked down, then being able to filter the various (often juxtaposing / contradicting) influences under a singular vision that is rooted in your LIFE, not in your fashion tastes

i think im getting there though, thats what my recent going back to basics is i think, rediscovering and redefining my roman pillars then starting a garden within the boundaries of those pillars

>>12613442
I preferred the PVC spam one

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>>12613574

man vetements REALLY went back to their roots with this one, perhaps even farther back than where they'd started at

collection itself as seen in the catalogue does nothing for me and is worrisome as this is supposed to be luxury fashion

but commercially its quite clever

just feels like this was the season they just decided to sell out whatever morsel of integrity they had left (not that they really had any to begin with because they weren't really trying to do "FASHION", they were trying to do wardrobe but perhaps strayed / experimented a bit and now they're back, but this time with enough of a following for the original "wardrobe" proposition to be commercially viable.

dont love everything about the brand but cant deny the fact that every move they make is absolute genius from a business aspect

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>>12613582

yo LOOK AT THIS MOTHERFUCKING ASS DOUBLE SHIRT

yproject just won the andam, hope this lets them continue to push the boundaries but also establish strong bread&butter products

man actually with every brand with strong artistic direction i want them to have a more basic look to buy into but i dont even know if thats the best thing to do for the brand in question

but its what i want though

so MAKE IT i demand you

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>>12613587

raf was good wont even bother elaborating

good shit

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>>12613593

yang li criminally underrated
fucking love this movie trilogy thing hes been doing

>>12613595

yohji sucked ass this season clothes are soulless af but yyph is doing better than it ever has commercially

which sucks cuz people becoming aware of yohji now know nothing about big suits and the foundation of his menswear so u get turbonormies saying yo i love yohji man then getting confused when ur wearing a B IG yohji suit

anyways im out i dropped by for my annual fashion sperg thread that gets progressively half assed every time

and i think this will be the last

peace

>>12613601

oh also it hasnt been released yet but next season's new helmut under shayne oliver is the best fashion ive seen in a fucking minute

seriously you guys aint ready for this its fucking perfect helmut is going to be a good meme again hes done it hes actually revived helmut lang

i never cop shit at retail but i already know im going to be buying some of this stuff as soon as it hits shop floors

good thread

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>>12613481
I love fisherman/surfer clothes so I'm in love with loewe collection.But I have to say that some of the clothes look a litle new era gucci.

>>12613086
I thought that was a screencap of blade runner.

>>12614117
sames

>>12614117
Haven't seen Blade Runner in ages, but instantly saw the connection.

Which scene would it be exactly? How does it look so Blade Runner other than the purples, the rain, the chinatown look?

>>12613900

Not at all...

>>12613900
>>12613595
>>12613587
I enjoyed hearing what you thought, thanks for this thread.

>>12615115

>>12613900 wasnt me learn 2 reading comp

>>12613086
>you need to make a new thread specifically for fashion to talk about fashion on a fashion board

And people still defend /fa/

>>12613900
W2c trousers like those?

>>12615262
Read the file name anon.

>>12613442
decadence, tree of life, holy jacket, power of ceremony, and armour of peace were all great and i would rate higher than this past season so not really sure what homme plus collections you've been watching this decade but rei has been incredible "in the last few years"

also,if you were a "fashion" person at any point in the last three decades you already respected kawukabo well before the met, in fact that is why the met did an exhibition on her. the only other designer to be honored at the met in their lifetime was yves saint laurent guess fashion people really only dug on yves after he got a met exhibition LOL

fuck some of the shit i read on here gives me a fucking anuerysm i swear to god

>>12613442
yong go home you're drunk

>>12613610
Glad to hear Helmut might be back! I need more variety. How's Raf at CK?

>>12613442
cdgh+ is the best of the best when it comes to menswear

>>12615291

thats just a difference in opinion

diehard cdg fans i know have been unsatisfied in the past few years like me, holy jacket power of ceremony and armour of peace were way too formulaic as is expected from h+ but had very weak motifs and themes being riffed on, look past it and it's just the same old staples the same old cuts with lazy seasonal design motifs that werent very clever (ooo asymmetrical wow holes and shit damn ARMOUR WHAT damn!! rivets and shit on shirts like armour shirt SHITTTT) last collection that came closest to being as good was tree of youth ill give u that one

womenswear has been good past few years, mens has been slacking and lazy af. fw17 was literally an amalgamation of motifs and staples from the past few years put into 1 with 0 creativity

sure every fashion person knows of rei and definitely knows she is respected but what im trying to say is recently especially with the highlight being given with the exhibition, fashion people who didnt really care for cdg past "oh its a brand im supposed to be well aware of and into because if u dont then ur not a good fashion person" are all scrambling to pretend like they were about it past the basic knowledge they had of her work

you sound like an internet fashion guy and sometimes real fashion things cant be communicated to internet fashion guys for reasons that wont make sense to u until u stop being an internet fashion guy

u know how i know? cuz i was also an internet fashion guy lol!!

>>12615321

no its not lol

how

>>12615307

good shit the pairing is perfect its like an american miu miu + rafs impeccable eye for directing a brand's universe both in design and operation

>>12615336
yeah actually rereading your first comment i was being hella reactionary sorry, i actually agree with most of what you said

sorry for making an ass of myself

>>12615336
and yeah actually 100% spot on with the fashion people being into rei all of sudden thing should have stopped and actually read what you wrote my bad dude

>>12615336
also thoughts on new gucci? seemed pretty boring imo not bad just not as exciting

>>12615227
most other threads serve their own purpose, while this ones purpose is specifically for shows and collections and discussion

>>12613601
yong dude fucking don't get me started on normies liking yohji now fucking every single discord and reddit faggot loves yohji all of a sudden because dude drapes lmao! straps lol!!! meme prints!! lol i bet these wool gab pants will look great with my acr sneakers and acronym shell!!!!

glad hes's doing well but it feels like people are checking yohji off a list of designers they are "supposed" to like to have internet fashion cred but they don't really "get" yohji or have looked at any of it out of the last 5 years

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Lately I've been really into Haider Ackerman's most recent release at Berluti, I think it all looks stunning and is such an interesting use of contrasting materials which further emphasize the different shades and patterns used for the actual clothing. Pick related is my favorite of the entire collection, the velvet jacket is such a fucking grail but I know I can never afford it until I'm much more successful in life lmao

>>12615428
pure jewelwave my man

>>12615385
they wont bother getting gab and just find the grossest shit cotton they can find for cheap

>>12615457
true very true

>>12615452
>Jewelwave

This is a new meme that I have never heard of.
What is it suppose to mean?

>>12615481
you must be new here lad

>>12613582
I like how Vetements is the fashion equivalent of high quality shitposting

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Why do people even care about modern fashion shows? It's not like any of the pretentious sperg outfits ever look good or take off from these shitpits anyway.

>>12615359

i made like 10 long posts about it in a thread a while back might be able to find in the archives

its still good i just gave up trying to incorporate it cuz my lifestyle doesnt call for dressing like that anywhere

hey op

im not a fashion guy but i dabble a bit --- just popping in to say fantastic thread

>>12615138
Do I get to commend both of you? Yes. Fuck off with your twit attitude

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I'd rather have boring fashion that actually looks good rather than all this retarded circus shit.

>>12616350
too bad zegna is both boring and looks like shite

wow this thread is both faggoty and autistic

good job op, you fell for the high fashion meme

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>>12616359
Is your conception of not being boring and looking like shite dressing like a retard?

>>12616375
People like you are the cancer blots that stain our board.

Return back to the pit(reddit) from whence you came and trouble the living no more!

>>12616375
You realize this is a {FASHION} board, right?
Go back to your >is pizza effay threads

>>12616430
I love this unironically

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>>12616449
>>12616451
>It's called fashion. Look it up.

>>12616430
i can decide whether something looks retarded for myself, not just assuming everything that isnt spewed out by commercial italian luxury brands in milan fashion week, that have xxx amount of years of heritage and are designed for out of touch 40 year olds is 'dressing like a retard'

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>Guys, it's fashion. You don't understand.

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>Cosplay? No, you idiot. This is fashion.

>>12616462
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>>12616471

calm down you autist

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>>12616464
>i can decide whether something looks retarded for myself,
Clearly you can't.

>not just assuming everything that isnt spewed out by commercial italian luxury brands in milan fashion week, that have xxx amount of years of heritage and are designed for out of touch 40 year olds is 'dressing like a retard'
Is your conception of not being an out-of-touch 40-year-old dressing like a retard?

>>12616486
>clearly you can't
well i never shared my opinion on anything that you have stated as looking retarded in this thread, have i now?
>Is your conception of not being an out-of-touch 40-year-old dressing like a retard?
no, its not being satisfied with boring tailoring i could find anywhere because its been done by every menswear brand for the last 20 years
i can completely understand the place of this type of clothing in the market, but you would do well to understand fashion isnt just for one kind of person with one certain set of tastes

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>>12616495
>well i never shared my opinion on anything that you have stated as looking retarded in this thread, have i now?
Implicitly, yes.

>boring tailoring
Is your conception of not being satisfied with boring tailoring dressing like a retard?

>you would do well to understand non-retarded fashion isnt just for one kind of non-retarded person with one certain set of non-retarded tastes
That is definitely true.

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>>12615581

It's an opportunity to see what works and doesn't, you know give you ideas?

Moron.

>>12616505
ahhh, so now the traditional menswear enthusiast admits to a little liking of somewhat eclectic fashion
if you actually appreciate the type of fashion that you claim to, then im sure you realize exactly the type of place the """"""retarded fashion"""""" fills because youve been there and done that
im not going to go into specifics, but its pretty much, this type of importance on certain designers that you see in this thread is designated to those who have at least proven at some point to have some worth and value
their current collections may not always reflect that, but fashion critics will be there to make a decision as to whether these designers are still able to have an impact and are able to advance the current state of fashion, and if they arent, these designers will eventually lose popularity and fall off the face of the earth
you shouldnt be looking at these collections as "well this is shit, i should just completely ignore anything that comes out from this designer ever again, but rather, this designer has cemented their place in the industry, lets see what they can produce for us this time and see if it has any value, and then if not disregard it"
not every designer is perfect and their collections shouldnt be treated as such, its not a completely black and white matter, but rather something that should be discussed and debated, furthermore, the collections themselves should be disseminated into parts which are positive and negative, especially if the designer is one of prominence, you should also be able to discern if there are any parts of the collections you like and dislike
now this of course can be a bit tiring and too much for some, hence why the type of fashion you like exists, and i completely understand that, but if you can understand why both types of fashion exist, then you are better off than most

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Does anyone have pictures of how the Undercover D4511 Earmuff Maniac jeans fit? Or any other recommendations. I'm trying to find a pair of jeans that won't fade.

>>12616523
>ahhh, so now the traditional menswear enthusiast admits to a little liking of somewhat eclectic fashion
I never said I didn't. You wasted your time writing the rest.

>>12616546
that ann d pic you posted would disagree

>>12616553
Disagree with what?

>>12616556
nvm read your previous post wrong my lad, but do tell my why you think i wasted my time writing the rest of that post

>>12616563
Because you're responding to a point I never made.

>>12616565
but im trying to give my perspective why its not all "retarded fashion", or at least why if it is "retarded", it exists in the first place

>>12613900
if you like fishermen check this older collection:

http://www.vogue.com/fashion-shows/fall-2015-menswear/umit-benan

went to the dries store in antwerpen a few days ago. they mostly had older stuff on sale, made me want to kill myself for being broke. don't think I've ever felt cotton that nice.

>>12615286
I know they're from Loewe but is there a style of fabric or pattern that they're called?

>>12613086
i hate that raf is still using dated new order/ joy division prints

like his brand doesn't already have enough negative fuccboi/streetwear stigma attached to it

>>12613900
I saw Gucci before I saw Loewe, I agree. Without filename i'd have assumed Gucci, especially from the top.

>>12616636
yeah dries's choice in fabrics is unreal

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Undercover's women's line is so damn top notch I can't understand why can't Jun get his shit together and make at least one good men line after so many lackluster years.

>>12613442
I really liked Issey Miyake my dude but i agree with u

>>12616933
you do realise he's just putting out there the things he enjoys and is interested in right?
much like the sterling ruby/mapplethorpe/etc stuff he's done, it all comes from a place of genuine interest and respect for these things, I'm pretty sure he's not going to go and change that all because some kids are going to wear it, infact I'd assume he'd probably be quite pleased to know the current generation is also appreciating them due to his work, desu that's what i think the purpose of this collection actually is

>>12617579
lmao this looks so fucking dumb. cosplay trash haha

>>12616515
id laugh in this ugly faggot's face if i saw him wear this in public holy shit LOL

>>12618110
If he thinks that he's kind of deluded desu. Yes there are some people who appreciate Raf using New Order/Joy Division references but let's be honest here. The commercially attractive crowd for Raf is hypebeasts who think they're cultured for wearing Raf instead of Supreme. They don't give a fuck about New Order or their music but just think the print is cool. Personally I think it's a bit boring, with David Cavasant letting dudes like Travis Scott borrow the AW03 parkas those pieces are very much desired (as seen by the hilarious rip-offs Zara and H&M have recently cooked up). Now it's just seems like Raf is kind of re-making those pieces because he knows some rapper will eventually wear it and oblivious kids will follow them.

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Rick's latest was... interesting.

>>12614142
>>12614132
>>12614117
The collection was obviously inspired by Blade Runner. There was a jacket somewhere in there that had the words 'Replicant' on them.

>>12615581
They take risk with fashion and it's something you can grab from. To be honest most high fashion doesn't sit well with me but I do draw some inspiration from it.

>>12616375
This has actually been an interesting thread compared to most of the garbage on this board.

I agree with some things and picked up some inspiration here.

Interesting thread, thanks.

>>12618132
that price tag ;-;

>>12618132
Those are one of the few shoes from Rick that I would actually like to wear, they're the most interesting shit i've seen in a while.
>$ 6.293
damn

>>12616430
Phenomenal. Wow

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Dumping my favorites from Margiela's femme

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>>12619821
Personal favorite

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>>12619823

>>12618118
Are you literally retarded? Fashion in fashion shows isn't MEANT to be worn in public, you fucking cave dwelling autist. Fashion shows are for entertainment and inspiration. Do you know how fucking boring it would be if we saw wrangler jean, sketchers, plain white tee wearing hick fucks like you walk across the stage all day?

>>12619811
Why are these your favorites?

>>12619811
>>12619823
not even into high fashion but holy fuck

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>>12619287
While that model is interesting, the other sock model is not -- compared to past models.

It just looks weird/bad to me.

>>12619823
what

how the fuck is this even possible

>>12619850

It is meant to be worn retard

You might actually be dumber than the guy you're responding to

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>>12620025
This is meant to be worn? Please neuter yourself for the good of humanity, you fucking imbecile. They are fashion SHOWS, not fashion demonstration. And you won't find a fashion major on the entire planet who will argue that the things at fashion shows are meant for public wear, you fucking pseudo fashion enthusiast.

>>12620025
And stop with the reddit spacing, faggot. No wonder you don't know shit about fashion.

>>12620039

I am that fashion major you fucking retard

And fashion first and foremost is a business

You cant show me a look from a couture show and argue that it invalidates the 200 other rtw shows that are presenting options for real life wear

You're really really dumb lol

>>12620103
Not only are you a moron, but you're a pendantic moron. Literally everyone here is referring to and POSTING PICTURES FROM couture fashion shows, and you're over here saying "hurrr there are rtw shows tho." No one mentioned a ready to wear show. Not only that, but RTW shows make up a tiny minority of actual fashion shows. Jesus Christ you are a laughing stock. Post your degree, faggot.

>>12620118

?

Im op

Ive been talking about and posting from the ss18 mens rtw shows so idk what ur talking about

Also u got it backwards couture shows make up a tiny minority of fashion shows so idk where youre getting that from lol

>>12620118
Lol calm down dude and maybe you'll learn a thing or two.

We need more threads like these

>>12620118
>RTW shows make up a tiny minority of actual fashion shows
that's just plain wrong though

these runway discussion threads always get so toxic
it's a shame

>>12621529
probably because like 50% of this board apprently think that runway shows are all couture and show stuff that is not supposed to be worn

>>12618132
These boots are some of the more interisting rick pieces i've seen.
Seems like it could become a signature piece like the asymmetric leather jacket, pod shorts or the dunks.

>>12613543
>YO I KNOW FASHION I KEEP UP WITH SHIT AND I BOUGHT THIS CONSIDERING THE PROCESS IN WHICH ID PUT IT ON AND GAIN RECOGNITION FROM OTHERS WHO ALSO KNOW ABOUT IT

fucking this, can't stand people who dress like this

>>12613543
This post should be implemented if we ever get a new sticky.

where did you get those photos from fashion shows?

>>12620039
>>12620118
this is some advanced autism dam

>>12621966
this is literally the number 1 issue with toronto fashion and honestly just internet fashion kids in general

>>12613593
weird textile choices for a spring summer collection though, heavy tweed and leathers?

>>12619823
what the fuck that is so cool

>>12620118
You're a fucking idiot

Are Americucks even trying?

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>>12620503
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>>12623148
Samefag damage control holy fuck

>>12621541
Are you implying that 80% of the shit posted in fashion threads is not from couture shows?

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>>12623532
Yes you fucking retard, I don't think you know what couture means holy shit you're fucking retarded
there are only like 30 official couture houses in the entire world and couture is only womenswear
there is literally 0 discussion of haute couture on /fa/ at any given time its 99% rtw if there is any actual designer discussion at all
stop posting anytime fucking retard

>>12623532
Not anyone that's been in the thread, but YES. Jesus Christ. Go ahead and look: only a handful of designers around the world do what can be demonstrably defined couture.

Everything else is rtw. It takes 2 seconds to verify this. Go check Vogue.

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>>12620118
educate yourself please.
http://www.marquisoffashion.com/the-difference-of-couture-and-ready-to-wear/

eveything posted so far is rtw besides margiela's artisanal collection

haute couture dosen't mean unwearable. Just take a look at Valentino or Chanel's haute couture shows.

lastly, couture represents a tiny, miniscule fracton of the fashion industry, and runway shows. A tiny, tiny percentage. Stop pulling out facts from your ass

>>12613587
I watched the show and saw this piece as well. I'll probably be purchasing when they put the summer collection for sale. Do you know of any online stockists that will carry the menswear collection?

>>12613595
Sleazecore

>>12625709

Yproject is pretty damn expensive and only getting more popular by the season so good luck getting it

Google (brand name) buy online (mens/womens)

>>12625023
>>12620503
Samefag

>>12627578
you literally just quoted 2 posts from me, the second of which i attached a photo showing that the first was also me, what's your point?

>>12625023
>>12625105
samefag
You can always tell it is this same Canadian autist who double posts one after another and freaks out swearing when no one else gives a shit. Calm down you stupid gaylord.

>>12628528
>get absolutely btfo factually by multiple people
>abandon ship and resort to LE SAME FAG OMG
embarassing

>>12628543
wow you are still here. get a life loser
you btfo no one but yourself. no one cares about your stupid gay unwearable fashion crap except other fags like you. i bet you dont even know how ridiculous you look lmao

>>12625023
>there is literally 0 discussion of haute couture on /fa/
I tried to talk about yiqing yin once on here but didn't get very far.

correct, but there's such thing as better taste worse taste. i can judge what kind of person and your worthiness by your taste. of course well read /lit/ x /fa/ x /mu/ fags are just superior than """fashionable""" rich people with their yeezy and lambos. i'm poor and i don't even want lambos. if i was to be given one, i would sell it and buy my way to move to the US, buy myself some cool (clean and safe, but not rich looking) apartment in Brooklyn and start a small business. like idk, vintage bookshops or cassette store.

man, i'm pretty proud being poor. because i just know i'm better, intellectually.

>>12619823
what is going on here?!

>>12628723
man great pasta


love these threads

>>12628528
this is embaressing

for all parties involved

you were wrong and thats ok but you're just taking this way too far my man
>>12628543
let the autist sperg out in peace

>>12616350
pants too low/jacket button too high

zegna wtf bro

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>>12619816
Wow the bottom is great here
>>12619823
WOW

Best thread on /fa/ right now, keep going. Can we go over more "normie" designers? Robert Geller, Christopher Lemaire, Stephan Schnieder?

>>12630568
see this is the issue with the board, if you "want to go over x", then do it yourself instead of waiting for someone else to do post about it for you so you can reply and say "yeah i agree" or "good post keep going"
there's a huge gap between the old and new posters and new posters learn most from engaging in dialogue and putting their thoughts and opinions out there and having them corrected or expanded upon
like try to explore further than "wow this is cool"
but at the same time dont if it doesnt call for it, because this is how you get posters who think they need to talk about more for the sake of talking about more and you get people saying meaningless stuff like "wow the fabric is amazing" when thats not even what theyre thinking, they just think thats the "proper" way to talk about fashion design and are looking to validate themselves to themselves

>>12630997
lmao poor anon didnt even know what hit him

>>12628543
>>12629067
samefaggot triggered out of his gay mind lmao

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>>12631436
>being this mad

>>12631444
>being this mad he screenshotted his phone
>so stupid he doesn't know how easy it is to make a unique id
lmao stay triggered gayboy

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>>12613587
so many words but no actual fucking substance

>>12631688
fashion in a tortoise shell

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I really like what Song For The Mute turned out to be, growing out of their classic avant garde look

>>12631852
That's wrong. The problem is that there are no other users here with enough knowledge to provide counter arguments.

>>12631983
fashion is by nature vapid the more fashionable it gets. the only visual expression with actual character is diy made to express certain ideas, however that in itself is unfashionable.

>>12632001
I don't understand your statement. I don't see how it takes my previous comment in account. Could you explain it further?

>>12632038
theres nothing on the surface level left to explain. any character of commercial fashion is added post design by the wearer regardless of the designers implications.

>>12632059
Doesn't the same apply to other art forms?

>>12632074
no, visual art, music and dance are all temporary experiences that at their roots are self expression based on experience. while each has been adulterated to fit into an industry, fashions roots are in practicality and only evolved to become exclusivity under the guise of expression. however there are of course exceptions but they relate only to individual design where they cross the line and become purely visual art. Bjorks swan dress. who else has worn a copy? regardless it will always be considered characteristic of bjork and only her for it was individual expression not for sale.

>>12632074
fashion isn't art u faggot

>>12613582
This is some next level fucking shit right here, god damn

>>12632843
Bad bait

>>12632900
nice dubs but it wasn't bait

>>12632900
bad bait

>>12631852
Someone's lack in writing skill is not an example of the supposed shallowness of fashion.

>>12632843
Are you going to give any arguments for that or what?