How do we fix business casual?

Business casual at work actually is aimed to envoke no interpersonal feelings between employees whatsoever, so goal achieved.

People who have just given up on individuality and wear there work outfits all the time actually just dont care anymore. They'll still be waring the uniform they are socially obliged to not stand out negatively at work.

You... Understand what a uniform is, don't you? Going to work dressed like a gay peacock is obviously not a smart move for these men.

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I am 28, /fit/ and /fa/ and i only wear business casual because whereever i go because i can get awaywith it. Where i am from, 99% of guys dress like shit (sneakers, jeans, t-shirts).

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So the problem is business casual most of us know isn't true business casual. True business casual for men is defined by a casual suit or jacket odd trousers (not jeans) with dress shoes, dress shoes, and preferably a tie (pic related). However since formality it self has been more or less shunned in the past decades, it's all gone down hill. The fact that a black dress shirt sans jacket at funerals is considered ok, it shows how society perceives formal dress.

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OP here, I meant it as, if you had the hypothetical power to change the staples of business casual, how would you change it to actually look good as semi-formal wear (a uniform as you said) but not like a bunch of middle-aged guys trying to dress like the young, upstart golfers they see on the teevee.

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These look good... from the ankle-up.

>>12464785
I take it you're not a fan of sneakers.

I used to think like you, not too long ago. Then I realized that a little shit like me can pull off that look better than if I would wear a pair of oxfords.

>>12464832
Non-formal shoes can work with business casual I think

Can you imagine a black polo shirt, grey dress pants and GATs or something? With the right kind of shoes it can be like something you could actually see in a Bond movie

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business casual can look great it is just that most people have clothes that fit bad and that they are unfit. Tucked in shirt in chinos and leather/suede shoes look great
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I am definetly not a fan of this European/fashion style or whatever it is called >>12464882
No sneakers should not be a part of business casual loafers/desert boots is the minimum level of formal for it

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>>12464882
Some of the shoes wouldn't be my first choice, but I've started warming up to sneakers and business casual the more I'm exposed to it. Plus, sneakers are much more comfortable to wear for extended periods.

>>12464898
Whatever floats your boat.

I like chukka boots too, but I'm not too fond of loafers. But that might be because everytime I see someone wearing loafers it's some American with an American sack suit and a pair of cheap, black loafers.

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This dude looks like a fucking cheese, why would anyone consider this inspo

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dress everybody in thom browne

this is my dream