ARCHITECTURE

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PERSONS OUGHT TO START SPECIFYING WHAT IT IS THAT THEY MEAN BY "FAH" OR "EFFAY" —"FASHIONABLE"—; IT IS A VAGUE AND RELATIVE TERM, THEREFORE, ANY DISCOURSE DERIVED FROM QUESTIONS SUCH AS "IS THIS 'FAH'?" IS FRIVOLOUS AND FUTILE.

IF YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO TAKE THE NECESSARY EFFORT TO DEFINE THE TERM BEFORE POSTING THE QUESTION, DO NOT EVEN POST AT ALL.

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i dont have much stuff, trying where i can

>>12155973
fair enough. I think fashion is the way we project our aesthetic. Just looking for stuff to fill my inside with if you get what i mean.

>>12155980
>I think fashion is the way we project our aesthetic.

THAT DEFINITION IS ACCURATE.

>Just looking for stuff to fill my inside with if you get what i mean.

I COMPREHEND THAT YOU WANT AESTHETIC STIMULATION; WHAT REMAINS A MYSTERY IS WHAT KIND OF ARCHITECTURAL STYLE DO YOU WANT?

POSTING "POST /fa/ ARCHITECTURE" IS AS VAGUE AS REQUESTING USERS TO "POST /fa/ CLOTHES" —YOU ARE NEITHER DEFINING WHAT IT IS THAT YOU MEAN BY "FAH ARCHITECTURE", NOR SPECIFYING IN ANOTHER MANNER WHAT IT IS THAT YOU WANT THEM TO POST.

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>>12155999
hah, i dunno what I want. Will be interesting to see what people here like. I think /fa/ architecture would be something that is artistically designed. A suburb would not be very interesting for me. Rick Owens speaks about how his silloettes are inspired by buildings.

>>12155957
is this archigram?

>>12155973
try not having autism

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>>12156143
Lmao

>>12156148
i agree completely

>>12156042
it's a drawing by Paul Rudolph

>>12156635
paul rudolph's draftsmen*

but, yeah. guy was nuts.

>>12156148
ROFLMFAO XD

>>12156148
>>12157211
What's so funny?

>>12155989
Actually a pretty cool concept, you have nice taste posting a relatively unique proposition like this - surprisingly I haven't seen this particular image before.

Anyone an architect or architecture student?

>>12155973
>>12155999
Why there is always someone who spoils my day in this fucking board? A long ago was the assman asking for male lingerie and pictures and now this fucking faggot.

>>12157609
yes. why?

>>12157609
Here
London
AA

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>>12155957
Antilia - Most Expensive House in the world.

>>12157717
Leaky piece of shit

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>>12157717
Gehry should kill himself
he and others are why people unfairly hate on contemporary architecture

>>12157761
*palace

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better dwg

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Louis Kahn

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What is this thread even supposed to be about.

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who /postmodern/ here

architecture is the only art form postmodernism isn't shit in

>>12158607
>architecture thread
what do you think its supposed to be about, fuckin dumbass?

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>>12158624
Like what type of architecture? Interiors? Exteriors? Modern? Post Modern? Traditional?

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Anything from en.white.se

>>12158633
you have autism
interior design isn't the same as architecture
read the thread
then kill yourself

>>12157609
here too, third year on Architecture

>>12157717
daily reminder that Frank Gehry is a talentless hack

>>12158859

what's the last house you designed and built, anon?

surely if there's no talent required you should be getting rich and famous by now

Bernard Tschumi - Manhattan Transcripts
Lebbeus Woods - War and Architecture
Lebbeus Woods - Einsteins Tomb
Wes Jones - Tract house
the inside of Peter Zumthor - Kolomba
Tadao Ando - Benesse house
Richard Meier - Douglas house

All of these architects everything is amazing

Thank me later

3rd year here

Archi whatsapp group anyone??????

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>>12158859
Gehry had some truly unique visions starting out (his own house is a good example), but he's like a less annoying Libeskind... with an army of assistants and designers to carry out his grand gestures, he kind of lost the plot.

>>12158853
uni-lj?

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lautner realness

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Hamburg's Elbphilharmonie is neat. i think organic shapes in buildings are the new futurism.

Graz's Kunsthaus. Like a black demon's snail in the traditional surrounding.

Any architecture done by Hundertwasser is kinda effy to me even if it might look childlike. It just got something.

Anyway these are the rather modern examples. There is an unspeakable amount of old buildings that are just timelessly stylish. Should I get into that?

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>>12159121
i'm from an obscure country in south america, so my university is not so famous i guess
>>12159122
John Lautner's architecture is a wonderful example of luxury
>>12159120
i think a lot of deconstructivism is dumb, the ideas behind it are very interesting, but i can't stop feeling that it's all just spectacle. Still, Peter Eisenman is a guitly pleasure of mine.

The Farnworth House is classy as fuck

>>12155973
are you the same tripfag from /lit/ who talks in all-caps?

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>>12159222

>>12157696
blocking tripfags helps

>>12158615
me very

>>12159221
le corbusier is good but this is trach

>>12158120
>leaky
wrong gehry building mate.

>>12159348
that's probably one of his only good works, you pleb

he's pretty good aesthetically when not coming up with batshit schemes to replace whole cities with concrete blocks

>>12159359
like what I posted also see his churches and his big government building complex in india

>>12159373
Some of his houses like Villa Savoye are really cool too

>>12155957
>>12155989
>>12158395
some of the coolest fuckin concepts ever

>>12159142
it looks cool but it would be a shit venue for orchestra performances. You have to think about the physical layout of the ensemble and how that relates to the direction and dynamic range of the performance. convention established the symphonic topology with classic amphitheater style venues in mind, so when you throw a bunch of people sitting al over the place you diminish the effect of the performance. Its kinda like playing a BluRay over a CRT television set and expecting it to look better.

>>12159122
famous

>>12158615
horrible

>>12158464
scenes

>>12158140
postmodern

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>>12159509

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>>12159511

>>12159380
there good but not his best work

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rip

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>>12158615
ayyyy I remember this from the old Spiderman videogames lol

>>12159539
https://vimeo.com/137418551

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>>12159543
>>12159539
>THIS is what they're replacing it with

wtf, looks like a goddamn chinese restaurant in downtown houston tx

japs are dumb as shit

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>>12159574
this doesn't count as architecture. This is on par with taking a picture of a plain fire escape and calling it architecture.

>>12160575
of course it counts you mong, just because it was planned for solely practical purposes instead of partly aesthetic ones doesnt not make it architecture

captcha: select all images with trains

>>12161138
It's not the aesthetic value what makes something architecture or not, It's how something is designed with human habitability in mind.

>>12161144
Well I simply disagree with your definition of architecture then.

>>12157213
yep

>>12158633
geez dude fuck off

>>12161150
And What's your definition then?

>>12155973
forgot how you block trips?

>>12161211
I don't have a definition for it, haven't thought of it that way. But "something designed with human habitability in mind" is way too strict of a definition

you fucking faggots know nothing

obvs none of you study architecture

interiors and technologists lol

>>12161822
uhh uhh

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wanna live in this house

>>12157609
I'm an architecture student.

>>12159122
he pulls a lot of water in this town... you ain't pull shit, lebowski

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Anyone here into Brutalism?

>>12161851
wow i love this. what is it?

>>12161875
this isn't really that brutalistic...

>>12161879
How isn't it?

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Siza Vieira

>>12161882
it's modernist. only thing that you could say makes it brutalist could be that everything is in raw concrete. but that's not enough. The point of brutalism is to feel like something majestic is fisting you, I don't feel that here. Nothing really stands out as wow this is brutal, this shouldn't be here but I love it.

>>12157609
yap

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>>12161901
To be honest, you could class Brutalism as Modernism and the main thing about Brutalism is raw concrete, hence the term Brutalism.
I'm fairly certain this falls into the same category as Brutalism.

>>12161907
desu your desu is wrong. there are significant differences, but now that I see the size of that thing, I abide. Still not a good example.

>>12161917
Yeah, I agree that there are significant differences, but there are some who class Brutalism as Modernism.
Not the greatest example of Brutalism, but it is one of my favourites.

>>12161907
i mean, nothing stands out. In brutalism, there has to be something hanging, peaking, deforming, something that goes beyond the rules of modernism. Even corbusier's ideas were frightening and concrete, but he wasn't a brutalist. Here it's just huge horizontal lines in a sloped wall.

>>12161924
I don't think that's a rule about Brutalism, to me Brutalism is something that stands out and makes some kind of statement. I feel like this build does it.
Look at Trellick Tower for instance, nothing hangs or deforms from that. It's just a massive block of flats with a tower next to it, but it makes a statement.

>>12161917
>>12161924
wow are you retarded? of course its brutalism. brutalism falls under the category of modernism. please read a book and stop with this "ackshullyl durr as a matter of fact, my opinion that just came out of my ass 12 seconds ago is korrect!!"

>>12161924
You don't know shit, senpai. The project in The photo (Alexandra Road Estate) is clearly brutalism, consider the sense of scale it has and how it is as a housing project (a huge complex for a lot of people). It was even made at the times when brutalism was becoming a thing.

>>12161822
How's that architecture degree going, anon? ;)

>>12161939
yes that's a valid point, but the tower just pokes into space and connects with those bridges when it could just be integrated. It's weird.
>>12161960
>sperging this hard
nice bait, try hiding the logical fallacies more, I might fall for it
>>12162101
What did you even try to explain... I mean I live next to a housing complex like that just in a slightly smaller scale and it's far from brutalist. And no the project in the photo isn't CLEARLY brutalism. Not everything that's out of concrete and huge is brutalist. Even the last point you offered would go against your statement.

To all the replies, I never said it has no brutalist elements, but that it's still just mostly modernism. We already figured out
>the size
>the concrete
would be elements of brutalism here, but plenty huge concrete complexes have little to do with brutalism. To the last two replies, maybe before discarding the whole post, at least try to listen to professors at your lectures.

>>12162351
>brutalist elements, but that it's still just mostly modernism
is this bait? its like someone looking at a rembrandt and saying "uh, no in my opinion this is not baroque art, it has mostly elements of dutch painting."

>>12162380
No, it's like saying Beethoven is still a classicist, eventho he had elements of romanticism.

>>12162394
uh, no its not retard, because almost everyone agrees that rowley estate is brutalist, and it obviously shows all the features of it, yet you keep making these weird autistic statements that don't support your point. and if you had spent more than 30 seconds googling brutalism before making posts in this thread you would realize that it overlaps with and sometimes falls under the larger category of modernism

please, stop embarassing yourself

>>12162410
I did and first results are quite different from this. Because the term gets thrown aroud so much now. From the pictures anon posted not all the elements are seen so I only judged the picture not the building. And calling me a retard doesn't really put you in a good light. There are plenty of housing complexes with brutalist elements that noone would call brutalist, because it's simply not brutal enough. You see only the plain concrete pillars under Le Courbusier and think wow such brutalism while it's actually just basic modernism.

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>>12162486
le corbu is literally considered one of the biggest influences on the development of brutalism, if not the first brutalist architecture

and you STILL keep referring to brutalism and modernism as if they're completely disprate and unrelated categories

please
educate yourself and stop pulling things out of your ass, which is what you've been doing this whole thread

>>12162486
funny because plain concrete is literally the root etymology of brutalism - it comes from the french "beton brut"

>>12162534
When did I say they are unrelated? I know modernism>brutalism that was obvious from a few posts back. And I even agree with you on corbousier, why are you even arguing anymore, is there something unresolved yet? But you posted chandigar where he just experimented, not his other works.
>>12162535
how are you still repeating this shit, it was mentioned before in the thread and here you go again with this bullshit correlation between beton and brutal. It's not brutal because of the concrete but because of its rawness.

>>12158725
more like en.brown.se am i right?

>>12159454
idiot

>>12156011
the people downthread are right, Le Corbusier is probably the inceptor of the aesthetic that you're looking for

>>12161283
i guess you could call it a machine for living in

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>>12162604
It's not brutal because of the concrete but because of its rawness.

Not the guys you are arguing with but I had to chime in on this statement.

Kahn's Exeter Library is not considered to be Brutalist due to its Brick cladded exterior despite its heavy monolithic presence in both its interior and exterior.
If you define something as having Rawness you are not describing its monumental vast presence, but rather its materiality as unprocessed or loosely refined. Again the concrete in a lot of brutalist styled architecture is still refined and not as dense with aggregate as other forms of more rudimentary concrete.

A buildings size or orientation does not classify it as brutalist or else Louis Kahn would be considered one of the worlds biggest Brutalist architects, which he's not. Despite the fact that for his whole life he studied vast monumental pieces of architecture or heavy monolithic structures as a basis for his work.

Ask anybody studying architecture at the graduate level or practicing/licensed professionals and they will all refer to the brutalist period with a combination of monumentality and concrete. Something may be brutalist but it doesnt mean that it is brutalism.

>>12159118
I'm keen for the whatsapp, I am also 3rd year too

>>12158853
Nice, good to see some other students. Strangely enough I'm also third year too. We should start a whatsapp like that dude below suggested possibly?

>>12157735
Wow, very good school - congrats!

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>>12157609
recent graduate here

>>12162767
lets do it!

I need to share a text convo i just had with my gf about architectural theory

im gunno change my name on imessage for anon and post the whole convo to get a group contemplating

on a whatsapp group i mean

email

[email protected]

to join!

i know this is 4chan but i want good vibes because the effay whatsapp group was not good vibes.

but we can have a vote on what you guys want and maybe think of some rules as we go

>>12162734
I fucking hate that library. Never over four years did I once have a valuable expirience in that shit heap.

earlier i was quite rude about interior and technology students but i was just butthurt no one paid attention to my resources. next time ill post a pic for attention

you guys are v welcome

youre basically the elon musks and the physicists and doctors of architecture.

im just an artist

my architectures not easy or cheap and it doesnt really improve quality of life like a well circulated estate does.

I hope youll accept my apology

now lets start this group on good terms

im going to sleep ill check out who wants to get involved in the morning

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>>12162792
>>12162780
gay

>>12156005
comfy af

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>>12161875
yes

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>>12155957
>>12155989
>>1215604
all hail peter cook god of archigram
why dont we live in plug-in cities yet?

>>12157609
second year KADK Copenhagen (design/architecture)

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god i love this house

its based on a tree and rooms branch of in different paths to have the playfulness like that of a treehouse. Also it being japaneese few of the rooms have specific functions but rather you constantly changing its function and therefor you can be a nomad in your own home, choosing one of the 23 levels that suits what you're going to do right now and were the light is etc etc. Its also flips privacy upside down being completely transparent public life/private life is the same

sou fujimoto plz marry me

>>12162734
Exactly what I was trying to say. Thanks anon, have a (You).

fasion is fashion
architecture is architecture
how can architecture be fashion?

>>12159093
oh shit not this again
>hurr durr if your 5 year old child could splatter paint on a canvas then why isnt she a millionaire yet? hurr
The reasoning for this is not everyone has limitless connections in the architecture world, in much the same way the 5 year old doesn't have any networks in the art world. Some random guy can't walk into an architecture office or whatever the fuck, slap down a design and go, "You needed a building? Well take a look at this bucko".

>>12163487
it's all a e s t h e t i c stop being bitter about it because muh board, i hope they make /arh/ one day just so you stop complaining

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Brick expressionism is just god tier

>>12163477
sounds comfy but that render makes me think I'll trip on one of the ledges and break my nose

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>>12161283
Architecture doesn't necessarily have to be for human habitability in mind, cant it be even broader? cant it be purely sculptural? or does sculpture in such a scale define as a habitat?

>>12163487
they share a lot of the same processes to create and have a lot in common. Hey take rick owens for instance he's educated an architect >>12163510
(its not a render) they have these small logs that work as stairs

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any interior architects here?

>>12161225
Hit settings while in a thread, open filters and highlights, hit edit, paste in !KNDY.F27NY tick hide, save, save, fiddle with it till it works.

>>12155973
He said /fa/ bruh.
Least get your quotes right if your gonna use actual quotation marks.

Also, if you are not will to PUT IN the necessary effort to use cognitive function (ie, common sense) to know what he is defining within the context of 4chans /fa/ board do not post at all.

>>12155999
/fa/ does connotate a 'genre' if you will, an attitude more than anything. A self righteous, slightly hipster occasionally avant garde while always being very mainstream all at the same time.
You know exactly what is being implied.

Renaissance, gothic, and modern can be quite vague ways of defining architecture but are considered a 'genre' in their own right. As with aything.

Educate me. Define Punk.

>>12163477
God, I hate pretentious garbage like this.

Putting the inhabitants to go through unnecessary sets of steps every couple meters. Not having railings and creating a potentially hazardous environment. Purposely killing the privacy and letting the inhabitants be subject to outside eyes like there's anything positive about that. All that just to push the idea of anti-norm and concept. The entire effort put into making something different rather than something good. Pure form over function.

This type of shit in fashion is more acceptable because clothes are inherently ephemeral. Doing this as an architect is to force your client or whoever uses that space in the future to live constantly with your retarded ideas. You're sabotaging quality of life in the name of boosting your own ego.

No wonder the demand for architects is super low when a lot of them try to pull trash like this. But hey, gotta appear in those magazine covers and Tumblr blogs, right?

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>>12163883
the motive was to create a more playful experience through the use of levels and valuing the experience of living there over the extremely hazardous of stairs lol
the privacy is also addressed through curtains so of course you can close it of but i'd(and the architect aswell) would rather live directly connected to our surroundings and blur the line between indoor/outdoor even at the cost of privacy which mind you is situed in a small road where few pedestrians and cars go.

these conceptual architects are the one's pushing architecture forward, modernist ideals which i assume you prefer, were once seen apon as "retarded ideas". You should also think of these as experiments not as anything for the masses as obviously not everyone want to live like this. The client obviously wants something conceptual if they choose Sou fujimoto

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>>12163902
collective housing.... literally

>>12163905
this entire intersection should be razed. jesus.

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>>12163905
moriyama house by sanaa

an experiment with collective living where the owner rents out part of the house to get money to eventually by the whole house for himself

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>>12163909
it also plays on the idea of the house as the city and is actually not walled of from any surroundings at all. the paths through the home/mini citie actually and connects with small paths around it

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>>12155957
A small shabby run down castle would be ideal.

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>>12163883
I would be inclined to agree with you if the architect were an urban planner designing condos or something, but in those cases, like >>12163902 said, its because the client wants something conceptual and cares more about the prestige than the actual livability

>>12163928
just go to poland
squat in 400-year old baroque palaces

>>12161876
jadwiga grabowska hawrylak

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contemporary architecture feels so hollow and lifeless

Any of you guys have a tumblr dedicated to architecture?

>>12163902
>the experience of living there
The experience of living there must be bad considering you have to go up/down stairs all day, especially considering every level is tiny as fuck and limited in its uses, which would force you to move between them constantly. The experience of living there would only be optimal if you valued brand name more than your own comfort, akin to wearing designer clothes that feel like shit and shoes that make your feet sore, except you'd be wearing them every day.

>these conceptual architects are the one's pushing architecture forward
Not necessarily. The ones pushing architecture forward are the ones trying new technologies and new solutions to current problems, not the ones doing something different for the sake of being different.

>>12157609
Second year

>>12162792
How do you use gmail as an group convo? Is there an app?

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>>12161875
Sometimes.

>>12163973
tell me more about this squatting in Poland idea, please

>>12165659
>>12163973
Yeah I wanna know too