We all know reading is very effay. But what are some effay books?

fiction's for cucks

nerd. The Quran is the only book you will ever need.

>>11878980
heard flowers for algernon referenced in nujabes feather
whats it about

>>11878984

mice and disabled people

Reading isn't very effay. You should see the people in my phd course

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fuck you, Tolkien transcends "effay" bullshit. It's quality fantasy that has many different layers of complexity.

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Yeah he's overrated, but his books are still /fa/ for those chill ass vibes.

>>11879007
I agree. He's middle-brow but that's okay.

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Move aside for the GOAT. Not sure if it's 'effay,' there might be too much rugged masculinity (and homoeroticism) but Ishmael fits the /fa/ stereotype very well I believe.


>>11879007
Yeah they're very effay, not the greatest but alright.

Plato
The Republic is a good book

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Why is this thread only full of shit that was required reading in hs?

>sitting on your ass reading words and imagining shit in your head a.K.a escapism instead of experiencing something actually worthwile
>effay
sure teenager

The Russian superfluous man is most fa

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This
>>11880420
because those books are great

>>11880426
>doesnt read
>calls other people teenagers

how does it feel to be a pleb

>>11880426
>reading
>not worthwhile

Since when is expanding your vocabulary and imagination not worthwhile, you lummox?

>>11880426
>reading is not actually worthwhile
go back to kindergarten you troglodyte

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Starts off slowly, but this is my favorite book I've read so far.

>>11878980
the naked lunch

>>11878980
Okay taste
>>11878982
*non-literature fiction
>>11878983
Okay taste
>>11878991
Awful taste
>>11878998
Bad taste
>>11879007
Eh taste
>>11879114
Great taste
>>11880410
Great taste
>>11880441
Eh taste
>>11880486
Bad taste
>>11880628
Okay taste
>>11880758
Good taste

Seriously though, Ulysses and Finnegans Wake are the ONLY books you will ever need in your life. They blow everything else out of the water and three miles into the air

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>>11878980
The Catcher In The Rye

J.D.SALINGER

>>11880783
This

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Jean Genet is undeniably effay.

>>11880783
Great book

>>11880768
stop posting if you don't actually contribute to the thread
nobody cares about your opinion especially if you don't back it up with some thoughtful points

>>11880768
Don't listen to >>11881221 Anon. Even if you contributed thoughtful points, it would still remain the same. Absolutely no would care about what you have to say then.

>>11878983
t. Ahmed

>>11878982
https://open.buffer.com/reading-fiction/

>>11878980
Buy a psychology encyclopedia. they are always useful

>>11878980
are you in 9th grade?

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Anything by Ellis really

>>11881276
reading is also important when you are in university.. It will improve your reading skills which are obviously important in university..

>>11879007
he's pretty good alright

>>11881345
gay.

>>11881330
yes but flowers for algernon is like reading a summer reading book at an 8th grade level

>>11881277
was literally about to post this

>>11880783
Pretentious, awful crap

so effay i gess

>>11878984
Mentally challenged dude goes through a procedure to make himself smarter. It's written in the first person.

Sade - Justine.

Have any of you actually read this stuff? How could you recommend "the republic" for casual reading? Reading as devolved into a pissing contest, where everyone wants to show off their learned sensibilities in literature. Read what you enjoy, enjoy what you read. Not to say that "the republic" is hard to digest, it's just that reading tongue-in-cheek dialogue about the tenets of an ideal republic according to a man who lived centuries before Christ, enriches no one.

>>11879007
my boy
>>11880410
extremely overrated and antidemocratic
>>11880420
the master
>>11881277
that one's decent but he's become an edgelord
>>11881515
prime political taste

>>11881672
>HE THINKS ANTIDEMOCRATIC IS A BAD THING
>HE DISREGARDS A PHILOSOPHY BOOK BECAUSE HE DISAGREES WITH THE PHILOSOPHY AND NOT BECAUSE OF THE QUALITY OR SIGNIFICANCE OF THE ARGUMENT

LOL

KILL YOU ARE SELF

>>11881675
struck a chord, didn't i? the argument is shit and any government run according to the principles in the book turns into an autocratic shitshow

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Currently reading this.

Is it /fa/?

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>>11878980

>>11881684
YOU DIDN'T STRIKE A CHORD, MY CAPS LOCK KEY IS JUST BROKEN

LOOK, THE THING IS THAT THERE ARE ASPECTS OF THE BOOK I DISAGREE WITH FOR CERTAIN, LIKE THE ASSERTIONS ABOUT MORALITY STEMMING FROM FALSE AXIOMS, AND THE SUPPRESSION OF THE CITIZEN'S RIGHT TO VARIOUS KINDS OF SPEECH, TRADE, AND ART

HOWEVER THE MODEL OF THE COMMON MAN, THE SUB-RULER, AND THE KING IS WITHOUT A DOUBT THE BEST HIERARCHICAL MODEL DEVISED BY MAN, ASSUMING ALL INVOLVED ARE HOLDING THE INTERESTS AND LAWS OF THE STATE THEY WERE ELECTED TO PROTECT CLOSEST TO THEIR HEARTS AND ACTIONS

THE POPULACE SHOULD NOT RULE, AS THIS LEADS TO MOB INJUSTICE. THE KING SHOULD NOT RULE, AS THIS LEADS TO TYRANNY AND OPPRESSION. THE LAW SHOULD RULE, AND SHOULD BE UPHELD BY A HIERARCHY OF THOSE SUITED TO HOLD THE DECISIONS OF THE TIER BELOW THEM UP TO SCRUTINY.

SOCIETY CAN NOT FUNCTION WITHOUT HIERARCHY, AND PURE DEMOCRACY WILL ALWAYS DEVOLVE INTO DISASTER, NO MATTER WHAT.

LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC

>>11881713
That's not how a broken key works

>>11881732
YES IT IS

>>11880783
reading that right now hell yeah

>>11880768
I want (you)s: the post

>>11881713
One can't just assert that the hierarchical system described will work "if they hold interests..closest to their hearts." This simply isn't how human society functions! It's totally naive and ahistorical. A simple study of actually existing societies shows that when power is concentrated in a few hands, it is used and abused for the benefit of that ruling class. Plato constructs a fantasy society based on this fundamentally flawed premise, and his conclusions thereafter are invalid.

Furthermore, you cannot remove law from the society that constructs it. It is not an exalted upper tier of reason removed from lesser thought or petty squabbling. Law is the direct product of the balance of power in a society. To place complete faith in the law is to accept society as it is at the moment. It says nothing of how things should be, and tells us only where the balance of power between classes currently stands.

>>11880768
>fiction book
>the only book you will need in your life
pick one

>>11880768
How the fuck are you going to say I have awful taste when I didn't even mention a book, I merely critiqued the people in my comparative lit phd course. Holy shit dilanettes are insufferable.

>>11881672
>anti democratic is bad
>doesn't understand the argument or the significance of it

man whats it like having your girl fucked by jamal every other day

>>11882008
>he creates a fantasy society

well shit i guess all of western philosophy is invalid and has no parallels to reality

>>11882008
THIS IS BECAUSE NO SOCIETY IS REALLY CARRYING OUT PLATO'S VISION. JUST LOOK AT AMERICA, A COUNTRY FOUNDED ON GREEK PRINCIPLES AND MAJORLY, PLATO'S IDEAS

THE LAW MAKING PROCESS WAS INTENTIONALLY SCRAMBLED AND COMPLICATED BY THE FOUNDING FATHERS TO PREVENT RAPID CHANGING OF LAWS DEPENDING ON SHIFTS IN LEADERS, BUT IT HAS BACK FIRED AND LEFT THE CHAIN OF SCRUTINY TOO BROKEN AND SCATTERED TO ACTUALLY WORK. PROPER GOVERNMENT REGULATION AGAINST CORRUPTION AND INCOMPETENCE HAS BEEN RENDERED NEAR-IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE SMALL CHINKS IN THE ARMOR WAS FOUND, AND MONEY POURED IN THROUGH THOSE CHINKS SO DILUTE THE SYSTEM WITH BRIBERY AND PERPETUAL PENIS

>>11882336
I DON'T KNOW WHY IT SAYS "PENIS" AT THE END, I DIDN'T WRITE THAT

>>11880628
I really enjoy Murakami's work, but this (and Colorless) were truly awful. I finished both books wondering what was the point of him ever writing them in the first place.

(TBF, they were translations, so maybe the quality was lost in the process.)

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GOAT work of fiction coming through

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>>11882473
Also anything by this guy

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>>11882476
Or this guy

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Tell me, do you fags read books to develop taste in literature and genuinely enjoy it? Or do you do it so that it's an accessory to your profile and people perceive you in a way that you want.

>>11882326
When it is based on faulty premises it certainly is. There is a difference between a thought experiment based on logical precepts and one that rests upon a fallacy. I do not object to fantasy, but if we are to act as if there is truth in the writing there must be a factual basis underneath. In The Republic, that basis is sorely lacking.

>>11882336
It's a basic law of human behavior that those in power act to perpetuate their power. I certainly hope you don't believe that having a less accountable and more centralized government would reduce corruption and incompetence. That simply doesn't follow. Without democratic processes governments become utterly self serving and put their wants above the needs of the people.

>>11882486
Most people read trash anyways and the ones who consider themselves patricians haven't even read Proust. So who gives a shit what others read?

>>11882486
I don't really care about having taste. I enjoy reading and I'm fine if other people think that what I read is trash.

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>>11882486
>do you fags read books to develop taste in literature and genuinely enjoy it
i used to read for fun, now that i study literature at university i read to improve my own writing, to perfect my craft. i just want to write poems and novels all day everyday while being off my face and get paid for it ;_;

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>>11882486
I read because I enjoy it. I won't always suffer through something when I find it awful, but if it was recommended to me by someone who I feel has good taste, I'll try to motor through regardless and then discuss my opinion with them later.

I'm sure people perceive me as a more avid reader than I am due to the number of books I own. I have a huge pile of books I took from my family home when it was being sold and my Mom moved into a condo and simply didn't have the space for it. I'm hoping to get through it all one day.

>>11882501
THE ONLY BASIC LAW OF HUMAN BEHAVIOR IS THAT A HUMAN WITH ALWAYS ACT IN PERCEIVED SELF INTEREST. THUS, ALL THAT IS REQUIRED IS TO ELECT A LEADER THAT ACKNOWLEDGES THAT SERVING THE STATE IS IN FACT IN HIS OR HER BEST INTEREST AS A MEMBER OF THE STATE

>>11880783
If you are a lost 20 something

>>11883968
dazai is goat, no longer human was real good

you dont fucking wear books do you?

>>11884021
you can put quotes on clothes

>>11878982
>fiction for cucks
have fun marking those test papers
fucking academia

1. The Fountainhead
2. Assorted essays of David Foster Wallace
3. Infinite Jest by DFW
4. Atlas Shrugged
5. No Country for Old Men
6. The Road & Blood Meridian

>>11884160
top bait

>>11884160
Why are The Road and Blood Meridian in one slot but NCfOM isn't

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>>11884160
>atlas shrugged

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boiiiiii

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>>11884210
also

>>11882336
Isn't this the same argument communists have about the USSR and Maoist China?

>That wasn't REAL communism, if we just used REAL communism it would have been a perfect utopia.

I used be able to read books for enjoyment but ive seem to have lost the ability to get lost in them. the last book i really got lost in was ham on rye and before that it was moonstone the boy who never was both really good books, but im stuck nostromo at the moment

>>11881713
explain the commas?

also ill never get to be pals with montaigne or any wise witty philosopher why live

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Roberto Bolano is for all /fa/ vagrants and savants

>>11884160
>atlas shrugged

nice try anon

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the GOAT

>>11884234
TURN ON YOUR CAPS LOCK KEY

USING SHIFT TO WRITE COMMAS STILL WORKS

>>11884227
I'M GIVING YOU ACTUAL EXAMPLES OF THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE MODELS THOUGH, NOT JUST SAYING "LOL THEY DINDU IT RIGHT"

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the only RIGHT answer

>>11884631
This on every level

>>11884258
are you too stupid to see that he put fountainhead as #1

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This is the most effay book in existence

>>11884631
Also contender

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NO LOVECRAFT I AM DISAPPOINTED /FA/

>>11883652
w2c

Dorian Gray is literally what all of you want to be.

>>11884839
As great as HP is too many of the Cthulu fanboys are sweaty pimple faced DnD players.

>>11884866
its so goddamn true

>>11883538
faggot

>>11884866
Yeah

>>11878998
Read the fellowship, absolute garbage, never want to read anything tolkien again, ever.

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Really, really good read.

>/fa/ discusses literature

>>11879114
>>11880420
>>11880441
>>11880768
>>11881040
>>11880410
>>11881697
>>11883816
>>11884248
>>11884631
>>11884726
>>11884731

u guys are ok

true effey literature is both transgressive and philosophical.

i.e

thus spake zarathustra
journey to the end of the night
ulysses
my diary

>>11884839
Well... yeah.

Lovecraft is fun as all shit, but he's not "fa".
He was a purple prose loving le-wrong-generation anti semitic racist nerd who could write some amazing horror stories.

Something doesn't have to be /fa/ to be enjoyable. /Fa/ literature seems to be quintessential Existential-Teen-Boy reading.

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>>11878980

>>11880628
reading this at the moment, and I definitely agree on it starting slow

>>11882404
What other works from Murakami do you recommend? I also read Colorless and did like it to be honest.

>>11883816
heidegger is the worst desu