They cause so many problems!
They attract all the attention when other things are more important.
They keep you from doing what you want.
They undermine your accomplishments.
They create situations that no guy has to deal with.
...and leave you feeling meek and inferior.
Because of them, you work harder and end up with less.
...because you end up undermining yourself.
A perfect example: In this pic, who should be jealous of whom?
Because of boobs, even people who like you secretly want to see you fail!
Guys see you as a game or a goal, rather than a person. Even the good ones have to resist doing this.
They are more work to take care of.
Finding a bra that fits sucks up your time and money.
The "Best" clothes are the ones that look like they are designed to fail.
And jealousy between girls can end friendships. It's so unfair!
And as much trouble as they cause...
You can't even want to be rid of them.
I don't believe i saw that, but even if, this is the closest one i have, and it's only implied.
I mean, i don't know about you, but the "i hate my boobs" pics are few and far between for me.
If you haven't seen Eiken, you should.
aah boob problems. all that milk keeps leaking out, cant keep dry
>Guys see you as a game or a goal, rather than a person. Even the good ones have to resist doing this
Gee, its almost like we're biologically designed to hook up with the opposite gender
When you loose to a guy named Ranma in China
kinda sad when that friend doesn't have boobs, ignoring that... fucking delicious
>Gee, its almost like we're biologically designed to hook up with the opposite gender
Creepy to discover that every man, no matter how nice they treat you, are attracted for your boobs..
Anyway I love my boobs, and it's great to have big boobs and being fit (not chubby or fat) <3
Also, great thread
>Creepy to discover that every man, no matter how nice they treat you, are attracted for your boobs.
That may be one of the initial reasons for attraction, but most guys won't stick around if they don't find anything more than that to be attracted to. It's not like all men are shallow idiots.
>Creepy to discover that every man, no matter how nice they treat you, are attracted for your boobs.
Whoa man I know for a fact a lot of guys out there don't give a shit about tits. They tend to focus on other areas, though.
It makes Christmas outfits tighter
Whoah, shit, you mean humans are usually initially attracted to the opposite sex for sexual reasons?
Goddamn, somebody stop the presses! This is some newly discovered information! I bet people several thousands of years ago WISH they knew this shit!
>Unwanted sexual attention is irritating. Having big tits increases unwanted sexual attention.
I think this is the point where I say "Deal with it." I could literally not give a single fuck that some chick with huge tits doesnt like getting extra attention.
>Woe is me! Life is just so difficult with these huge titties that everyone wishes they had!
Its like those stupid bitches that get extra large breast implants, "only for themselves and not any man" of course, and are then disgusted that men stare at their huge fucking tits. I can guarantee that if men didnt give one single fuck about tits, they wouldnt have gotten breast implants.
TLDR;stop trying to inject your social justice into porn. Its actually a fetish of mine to see women with large tits be embarrassed about them. So please continue.
You wanted to know. Remember? If your just going to self affirm your own ideas you already had why even post? Why do you think we care about your pissy complaints about things that have nothing to do with you?
>;stop trying to inject your social justice into porn
I wasn't trying to stop porn. I don't know how deducted I did. You sound like an angry teenager.
As an attractive male I can say that unwanted attention is a pain in the ass. Gross gay guys always hitting on me, creepy fat autistic girls confessing their undying love for me when we've never spoken a word to each other, drunk chicks cornering me in the bar when all I want is to have a few with some freinds, and worst of all old ladies trying to feel me up. I've even had old ladies rub thier crotch on me.
I can relate to almost everything said in this thread except I think men have it worse. When I reject someone's advances no matter what I'm the asshole. Because I'm being a heartless jerk who isn't considering other peopls feelings.
Another thing that sucks about being attractive it all the petty jealousy. It makes my working life a pain sometimes because of the spiteful actions of a short chubby bald man.
The love life isn't all that great either. It's great being good looking if you'er the man whore type but I prefer a meaningful relationship. A good amount of women I can't even talk to because they are dreadfully intimidated by me. The rest automatically assume that I'm a womanizing player because romance movies have brainwashed them to judge me as such.
Seriously I've seen short little dorky guys hook up with a new girl every week because romance movies trained them to associate these traits with a loyal sweetheart.
Seriously guys if you are nerdy looking your chances of hooking up with non-whores is astronomically higher than mine. When a woman sees me she automatically has her guard up. Where as 2 decades worth of underdog quirky romances has laid the ground work so men like you don't even have to try.
Well, yeah. Guys are supposed to be happy that any woman is into them, even top tier ones.
But your point here >>1753262 and >>1753265 regarding how women react to you are pretty spot on. I'm not a super attractive guy, but I get more attention from women than the more attractive friend I frequent places with. Even more so when they learn I'm married.
This argument is one of the most inane I've seen on this board, ever. If you want to keep being jackasses to eachother, do it on /b/ or something. I'm going to post some anime titties, I suggest you all do the same.
agreed, after viewing this thread, they are just bickering like old people about, hurr durr my opinion is the only correct one, they have lost sight of what this thread is even supposed to be
I just wanted to let you people know that the struggle is real. I'm on my home computer now so I'm dumping.
This is a great thread. Very interesting and insightful.
Thank you, all, for contributing to the conversation.
Being an Afro-American, people assume certain (often negative) things about me. These assumptions draw unwanted attention my way and cause some people discomfort at my presence. So, like a female with large breasts that are bound to draw the eyes, desires, and envy of others, I must learn the art of living with it.
She might wear a thick sweater instead of her favorite shirt (the one that shows her cleavage). I might dress better than some people around me instead of sticking with the style that requires minimal effort, finances, and brings me plentiful comfort (jeans, muscle-t, and a wave cap). Neither of us will be as comfortable as we could be since we aren't dressed the way we want to be, but that's the price of living in society.
She might not appreciate people talking to her simply because, well... she's got nice 'tits'. I don't appreciate people assuming I'm good at certain sports because I'm 'Black'. But you know what? She can use the benefits that her breasts bring to her advantage. Hell, she can eat/drink for free, get away with minor things, and easily gain connections. After all, what heterosexual male wouldn't stop what he's doing to give attention to her? Ever seen how differently an assistant manager treats a pretty lady with large breasts? She's got it good, but it may not make her feel good to know that she's primarily viewed as a pair of fun-bags. As for me? I can use people's assumptions to get picked first during sports, scare people out of intervening when I'm doing something I shouldn't (because, you know, "they're violent and can fight"), and pick up one-night stands (after all, we're hung like a horse). Even better, I have a much less chance of being harassed by regular civilians.
The problems for both groups go far deeper than people who don't fall into either category will ever know. Everyone's got problems, though.
I couldn't agree more with you, we all have stigmas attached to us from birth that we have to deal with & instead of getting angry at the world we should just appreciate who we are. However I don't think that people should be so quick to use the "pass" that society has given them because when you do so you are enforcing those negative stereotypes. If you choose to live a certain life style often enough & long enough no matter what the reason or how well you understand it, you are that person.
If a busty woman chooses to use her sex appeal too much, she is a gold digging slut. If a black man constantly intimidates people to get what he wants, he is a nigger. If a hansom man uses his good looks for one night stands, he is a womanizing asshole.
If you are willing to accept those labels more power to you, just don't get upset when someone calls you out on it.
I read through all that laughing like every other satirical thing written the same exact way has me laughing.
Then I get to the end and discover either you all think OP is serious, or OP is actually serious.
stereotypes? feelings? other people's thoughts? stigmas?
Please answer me this: Why do YOU actually give a shit?
Any social individual should already know from experience that 90% of the 'concerns' raised in this thread disappear within' moments of actually talking with someone.
Better yet, why even let someone else define you? Sure they can make guesses. Sure they'll cheat and try to reinterpret who you are to fit their guess, but that doesn't change who you are. Unless you decide to conform, but I thought all you hipster tumblards lurking /e/ right now were against conforming to begin with?
I love how conversations like these almost always devolve in one of two ways, either an echo chamber or something about 'primal instincts'. Both try to interpret the feelings of someone else. People you've never even met nor talked to. You can't fucking know.
Get off this fucking train, you obviously don't like the ride. It's destination is one of loathing and loneliness.
I'm getting off the horse now with a final fuck you, /e/. I mad.
I did not expect attractive guys like you to spend time on 4chan /e/... seems strange
Anyway I would do anything to have your Life and your "problems". I’m average looking and so i blend in perfectly with most of Earths several billion men... being average makes you invisible
ITT boob problems: Its hard to be taken seriously in the work place
Innocent affection can lead to unintentional suffocation.
On the other hand, they can also make for a good self-defense mechanism in a pinch.
I wish I had enough material to start a Boobie Perks thread...
If being attractive were so much of an issue, I'd imagine we'd see a lot more breast reduction surgery going on. Nobody gets breast reduction surgery because they find themselves too attractive.
Don't get me wrong, there are relative risks associated with everything; including being very attractive. People might choose to dress conservatively, but to keep this in perspective, nobody cares enough to consciously make themselves unattractive.
Creepy guys and girls may be annoying but let's also differentiate annoying creepy with rapist creepy. Being attractive can be a nuisance, but nobody's going to intentionally wish themselves unattractive and mean it.
Do you Think im blind? I read that and yes I am jelly as hell. The problems you have I would gladly trade for my problems. Oh and if you dont like petty jealousy, then you should move to Mars or something. Humans are naturally jealous...
That all depends on whether they are attracted to more than your physical body - romantically. Also, this phenomenon isn't limited to only women with large breasts, or even only women. In any case, you still have the power to decide which position you fulfill.
Also, sometimes it isn't only hormonal attraction that drives a guy to pursue a woman, he might otherwise pursue more seriously, for casual sex. Societal decline has made it perfectly acceptable, and even laudable in many cases, for physical gratification to be the only goal of pursuing women. This brainwashing, combined with youthful naivety or a lack of self-worth (and, therefore, a need to assert their desirability with gratuitous sexual conquests), causes many men and women to never experience the joy of getting to know and love a person deeply before expressing it physically until well into their adulthood, if at all.
I don't wish to justify those who may have objectified you, rather, to point out there are deeper issues involved than procreative genetics alone.
When I first meet someone I'll judge them by their appearance, frankly what the hell else are you supposed to do? The persona they present to you isn't going to be very real anyway and you may not have time to make a decision based on more than impressions. There is no inverse relationship between attractiveness and/or breast size and depth of character, unattractive people can be vapid, shallow and petty. It's a crapshoot either way so why not approach someone you're more attracted to?
Personally I prefer to approach girls who are attractive and a little out of my league. My experience is that they tend to have more experience dealing with attention and have a little more tact and grace if they are going to turn you down. The sting of rejection is a little less and the upside is better if they are into you too.
There. Boiled your post down into a Harry Potter-esq spell.
You've read a few paragraphs and you're making a rather all-encompassing judgement about me. In fact you've boiled it down into an even sound byte and are encouraging people to draw judgement from it. You are truly the shallowest person in this thread.
More boobie problems:
The underboob area can be difficult to dry.
They get in the way of taking care of hygiene down below.
Boobs make you distrust your doctor and doubt whether removing your shirt for medical exams is really necessary.
Using them for their biologically intended purpose can be strange.
People will always wonder, "Why work hard at a career when you have great tits?"
It can be difficult to remove bandages from your boobs.
Traditional Japanese clothing is not well suited for large breasts.
Chinese clothing can also be difficult for the well endowed.
Hard-to-eat foods tend to fall between your boobs, leading to a messy embarrassment.
Boobs + pregnancy make your body look like a strange pile of pendulous blobs.
Large breasts can interfere with a stable two-handed firing grip.
With boobs, wearing clothing that is too loose can be revealing ...
... but wearing tight clothing can also be too revealing.
You can start out as a happy DFC loli and end up struggling with big attention grabbing boobs almost overnight.
We g/e/ntlemen salute all of the boobs and the people they're attached to.
I knew someone would give me a verbal thrashing for that phrase, haha. However, hasn't a large part of this thread turned political in scope (not that I actually frequent /pol/ - went once and found them very discourteous)?
Whether it is a degradation is a matter of perspective and opinion, but I shall explain why I see it this way. Very simply, consider the converse to my statement.
>Societal decline has made it perfectly acceptable, and even laudable in many cases, for physical gratification to be the only goal of pursuing women.
The flip side would be a society in which pursuing a woman only for sex was unacceptable, and perhaps condemnable.
The base line of accepted males within this society, then, might conceivably be a man, coaxed by societal stigma, who weighs his desire to have sex against his interest in the woman whom he would have to spend time fostering a real connection with before copulation, lest he become a pariah of sorts. Doesn't this man, erogenous in his relations with women, seem still more likely to find a significant romantic connection in a society which views intellectual and emotional intimacy as a prerequisite to copulative pleasure than this same man placed in a society which lauds promiscuity? Wouldn't he also be less likely to diminish the self worth of the women with whom he consorts if he were expected to only be sexually active with women whom he loved?
Of course, I'm talking in idealistic and speculative terms. I understand that in reality, humans tend to settle somewhere in the middle of these two extremes.
I'll find some to post a little since I talked a lot, heh.
You are always being judged for your boobs, whether you have them...
Unlike most mammals, human breasts retain most of their size even when not being used for nursing offspring. Thus, their burden outweighs their utility.
Although some human females secrete milk even when not nursing, which can be an additional burden.
It is thought that retention of breast size serves as an attractive sexual signal of reproductive fitness, since human females enter estrus monthly versus annually for other larger mammals with single offspring. Thus, breasts aid in the perpetuation of the human species.
However, breast size is an unreliable gauge of a female human's overall fitness as a mother.
And dirty thoughts are bad.
I'm surprised this thread is still going.
I honesty never thought of this.
Would running on a treadmill lead to breasts hanging further overtime?
That sounds like an exaggeration. Take away "everyone" and put "people who really like breasts".
I like your argument, but consider the possibility that attractive people don't lack enough self-esteem to rid themselves of their attractiveness. Heck, people have died throughout humanity's existence over their own pride, self-respect, honor, and beliefs.
"Remove that *insert unacceptable socially/culturally item here* this instant!"
"Burn the witch/heathen/terrorist/nazi!"
Based on your argument, atleast it sounds like, what they went through must not have been much of a big deal.
Shallow would be not looking past one's appearance.
Being attracted to a specific part of the human body is not shallow. Focusing primarily on that and disregarding everything else is shallow.
^This. Is funny.
>I don't wish to justify those who may have objectified you, rather, to point out there are deeper issues involved than procreative genetics alone.
Care to elaborate?
...Did anon just give dating advice? Nice.
Gotta admit, that really sucks. How do you cope?
Did anon just teach? Noice.
>Wouldn't he also be less likely to diminish the self worth of the women with whom he consorts if he were expected to only be sexually active with women whom he loved?
Would you like top rephrase that? It sounds a bit off.
I'm thinking "weren't" instead of "were".
I know this a 'Boobie' thread, but I gotta say that males tend to be constantly judged for their 'manliness' or lack thereof. Depending on the culture, of course.
>And dirty thoughts are bad.
Challenge: If dirty thoughts are bad, why is dirty rice so good?
Don't bother responding. I'm sorta joking here.
>Would running on a treadmill lead to breasts hanging further overtime?
I've read this was a myth.
So was the idea that bras prevent breasts from sagging over time.
neither will help avoid or cause your breasts to sag.
Skin is very strong and elastic. Skin cells are constantly dying and being replaced by new ones. Gravity does not cause skin to sag.
Sagging is caused by loosing elasticity over time in the skin, as a result of aging; and nothing can stave that off. Even if you wear a bra all your life, your skin will loose elasticity.
If you have big breasts, they're going to sag eventually for almost everyone.
So enjoy 'em while you can.
Yeah. Pretty much what I have read too.
I guess we'll have to wait for genetic engineering to catch up to the point where it can keep skin and breast tissue perpetually firm and springy. Oh, what a wondrous age that will be.
small household objects can get lost in your boobs
Boobs can be a distraction while playing sports.
With boobs, wearing light colored clothing can be risky in rainy weather.
OP here. Thank you everyone for posting!
The thing about boobs: What do they DO exactly? They feed babies, and entertain men. (and some women) But uniquely in biology, they have no direct benefit to the person who spends her life carrying them around.
Imagine you are marooned alone on an island. Better arms, legs, senses, immune system - all will help you survive. But nicer boobs? They will just slow you down - pure liability. If you were always cute, it might motivate more men to come looking for you. But guess what they'll want when they find you?
Because of this, male ideas about "rugged individualism" and "individual achievement" will always put women at a disadvantage. For women, community support, teamwork, and the rules of civilization will always be critical to survival.
I enjoyed the part where people posted images instead of pointlessly arguing
Thanks for the explanation.
Very well put.
They sound like a burden, and remind me of testicles.
>Because of this, male ideas about "rugged individualism" and "individual achievement" will always put women at a disadvantage. For women, community support, teamwork, and the rules of civilization will always be critical to survival.
Now it all makes sense. Civilization. Law. Gentlemanly ways. All that shit. Fucking females. Well done, you manipulative conspirators.
Speaking as a male enthusiast of big tits, even I have to admit that the cons of having them far outweigh the pros.
That being said, I salute girls everywhere who find pride in being busty regardless.
Maybe nicer (bigger) breasts are to women what tails are to peacock. Their only benefit is that they can help you to attract suitable mate that will want to produce offspring with you.
Boobs don't improve the taste of chocolate.
But they don't make it worse either.
The effect of boobs on the flavor of sake is unknown.
There was this girl at my secondary school called Kate with massive boobs, she was otherwise slim and petite besides from her tits. It was some medical condition. You couldn't tell most of the time because our uniform was a blazer and shirt but during PE the girls' uniform was a sports top and pleated skirt. She physically couldn't run. I saw her jogging only once (when a substitute teacher made her) and she looked like this >>1755607 only with more exaggerated up/down bounce, she made it 30-40m before she had to stop. I'll never forget the look of anguish on her face. There was a mandatory 2 hours a week sport and she ended up only doing things like badminton.
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>Creepy to discover that every man, no matter how nice they treat you, are attracted for your boobs..
For anyone who's thinking this, here you are: