Alarm without phone line

>>1123517
go search for some smartphone apps and report back

>>1123517
Phone line Wtf? Ever heard of the internets?

>>1123521
I don't know how alarm systems usually work.


I've never installed or made one

>>1123517
>How can I do this without a phone line?

You don't is the simple answer. The log answer you don't unless you're can find alarm manufacturers who make systems just for use in the middle of nowhere that work with GPS and cellular net works.

>>1123535
>that work with GPS and cellular net works.

this. make sure your alarm system has GPS.

My neighbor tried to save money and just got an alarm that called on the cell, but by the time the cops got there the house was gone, and no way to trace without the GPS.

>>1123561
They took the house too?

>>1123563

Yes. We think they used a crane.

>>1123517
Probably something an Arduino could handle. Get some magnetic switch's, motion sensors, maybe some glass break detectors, wire it up to an Arduino to send an email to your cellphone. You can email an SMS message.

light sensor (attach to light on alarm; if it doesn't have one, improvise)+servo+phone

>>1123517
Wifi and a small mail server that sends to your carrier's SMS address via email. I used to use email to text before I could afford a cellphone. You can set up a POP3 service and link it to your Gmail account, having it send through the Gmail and put it on a raspberry pi with almost no coding required.

>>1123517
branded Honeywell systems seem to be the standard in the field these days

The only problem with honeywell is that it has to communicate with their system occasionally to work, more to do with keeping track of the systems out there, who owns and installs them than anything else.

You can get boards that either have built in or modular GSM or internet adapters. You have to sign up for a monitoring service, but there is one or 2 that's free for DIY basic features. They make the money by selling the advanced services like texting, emailing, remote access, calling more people, etc

So, if you want a system that's off the shelf and is eligible for the insurance discounts, get a honeywell self install kit, add sensors as needed and sign up for one of the free monitoring services.

If you want to roll your own with no features, just tie all your sensors together to the generic thing like a raspi, with a GSM module to text/call you. You could have it call with audio feed with little to no work.

If you can harden your internet access, or are able to pick up a public wifi, then you could have it do whatever you want it to via internet. Let it email you when any sensor tripped is super simple.

If you have an existing alarm system btw, you can just use one of the auxiliary outputs or use an opto coupler to watch for juice being sent to the siren

>>1123725
I'm going to be honest I don't know how to do any of that.

Electronics isn't my strong suit

If you by chance had time and posted links to what I need to buy I would happily make a OC thread and post my progress (as I'll probably need help anyway).

>>1123725
also I can pickup my neighbors wifi

>>1123535
It's actually very simple and very common, not rare at all. And many systems even 10 years old have compatible GSM modules

And for the ones that aren't compatible, there are retrofit type GSM adapters that emulate a POTS phoneline so that the alarm system doesn't even know its cellular.

Not currently supported to my knowledge, but there used to be things that were almost like mesh networks on 900mhz, intended for alarm systems in very remote or isolated locations, with multiple sites in the system.
In some cases, a local company would serve as the monitoring service, with an antenna that served all their customers over RF with very advanced features.
It was used mainly in things like park stations in massive parks,or isolated areas that didn't have land lines in the area and were still years away from cell coverage like mountainside or valley communities

>>1123535
Funny, I found an alarm kit that uses SIM cards one night when I was dumpster diving.

>>1123517
SimpliSafe uses cell. No wires.

>>1123517
Samsung smart home or apple home will do it if you dont want actual monitoring.


I have the Lowes iris system. I loved the gen 1. But i cant recommend the current system. It just dosent work.

>>1123561
I kek'd but I was half asleep thinking of GSM. My mistake.


>>1123729
>>1123730

Depending on where you are in the world sure. Here in the UK it's not very common at all. There are systems that connect to your phone line but often you have to pay a subscription fee each year. As for working with a SIM, I know they're available but only from people who specialise in it. Not like you can pick one up from the local big box.

>>1123517
op no one here will help you with your weed grow op

>>1123565
TOPKEK

>>1123517

You can email to text with almost all providers. A rpi would be sufficent, you can even get an older version it doesn't need much cpu power.

AT&T: [email protected]
T-Mobile: [email protected])
Verizon: [email protected] (text-only), number@vzwpix (text + photo)
Sprint: [email protected] or [email protected]
Virgin Mobile: [email protected]
Tracfone: [email protected]
Metro PCS: [email protected]
Boost Mobile: [email protected]
Cricket: [email protected]
Ptel: [email protected]
Republic Wireless: [email protected]
Google Fi (Project Fi): [email protected]
Suncom: [email protected]
Ting: [email protected]
U.S. Cellular: [email protected]
Consumer Cellular: [email protected]
C-Spire: [email protected]
Page Plus: [email protected]

Try an ESP8266 and IFTTT.

>>1123614
Yeah OP all's you gots to do is build an entire alarm, hardware and software system from scratch

Thanks /diy/

>>1123535
So why not an Internet based? Over here people rely mostly on cellular in the countryside. Phone lines are mostly gone, only old people have them, who don't like cellphones.
Our home Internet is 4g, and the WiFi runs on that...
It seems like the rest of the world isn't as advanced?

Get yourself one of these and a cheap sim card.
http://nesscorporation.com/ness-security/ness-gsm/106-249.html

What alarm system should I get for my house?

Google eyezon

>>1123725
Honeywell a shit. Go with DSC and an eyezon module for network connectivity. I've done 4-5. For easy cell coms go with the telguard tg1express. The tg1 connects to the phone lines on a security system. The eyezon module connects to the keypad.

>>1124273
Cheaper install for a legit system? DSC Alexor. Wireless keypad so intruders can't find and destroy your system with a few seconds.

Alarm tech here. One way to accomplish this without paying a monitoring fee would be to connect the output of an alarm panel (I recommend honeywell vista 20) to an alarm input of any device that has the ability to send an email. Most surveillance system DVRs have this built in, as well as apps so when you get an email from your dvr you can log right in and have a look. Of course it doesn't have to be a dvr but why not? It would do that job and add humongous capabilities.

Alternatively, since programming the output can be a PITA and requires a connector, you could wire the siren output to a 12v relay and then connect that to your alarm input.

>>1123725
Honeywell alarm panels do not need to contact their system periodically to workas local alarms. If you dont program a phone number for it, it doesn't check for a phone line. If you don't enable lrr, it doesn't look for a radio signal. If a system does use a phone line, it does not connect to honeywell, it calls the Dispatch center phone line and reports an alarm via contact ID.

As I stated before, eyezon by envisalink will do what you want. I have been using one for years. There is no fee after purchase unless you want them to monitor it for you.

>>1124295
How does the Neo compare to the Alexor? I've done a few Neo installs and found it a good little system.

>>1124309
Honestly haven't dealt with the Neo yet. I prefer the power1832 and only use the Alexor for cheaper small jobs. Alexor is decent for the money. I'll always have a soft spot for the GE nx8 though. Cut my teeth programming on that shit. So much commercial fire alarm lately though so I haven't touched too many new security systems.