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Hot glue is fucking awesome.

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Fucking love cardboard + hot glue. So much you can do. Built myself a table, computer desk, and computer cooling system for the cost of hot glue + scrap cardboard + several pieces of junk wood. Really don't even need the wood, folded cardboard is fairly strong.

What have you guys made with these wonderful materials?
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Pic with the computer housing open.
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>>1109558
>>1109557
Did someone hang your drywall with hot glue also? Ugh, what a mess.
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>>1109560
Don't know who built the place but nothing is lined up, I highly suspect they may have been drinking. I have no other explanation. Its wooden paneling painted white, not drywall.
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Please post a picture of you sitting on the table OP
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>>1109557
absolutely disgusting

go get a job and you won't have to be so fucking poor

kys
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>>1109563
It is a writing table, was very light duty. I usually write on legal pads so it worked.

>>1109564
I have a job, I am just extremely cheap and see no reason to buy what I can build.
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>>1109565
>see no reason to buy what I can build.
You are using the word "can" in a way in which it was not meant to be used. Seeing as I paid a hefty $7 at a thrift store for my writing desk, which is an actual wooden desk with drawers and shit, I very much doubt you saved money in the long run or even made a very good deal.
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>>1109571
A heavy wooden desk that cannot easily be torn apart and reconfigured would not meet my needs. I have no use for drawers. All of my writing is filed into portable file containers, everything else stores in several boxes for easy transport. This setup allows me to change it on a whim, I am tearing it apart at the moment to convert it into a standing desk. If I do not like that, then I can change it back. It is the process of making something that I enjoy, buying thing holds no joy for me.

You can feel all superior with your actual wooden desk if that's what makes you happy. For me it would be an inferior waste of space.
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>>1109577
>It is the process of making something that I enjoy, buying thing holds no joy for me.
This is the spirit of /diy/ in a nutshell, it's just that OP has waded out deeper in the water than most of us.
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>>1109578

Cheaper water too, that's worth a little applause.

Better than the "I need to/how do I source insanely expensive components so I can sell this idea I've had on etsy, and btw can you design x for me too - within these dimensions/with these ridiculous constraints" threads
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>>1109578
I think his issue is that he is more enamored with the idea of "I made this" and less concerned with it actually being something worth making. It was like when I was a kid in kindergarten and I made "boots" out of some quaker oat containers and duct tape. Complete shit but I was proud of them when I was 6 years old. When I was in my teens and twenties it was fine to have particle board garbage furniture, because I didn't really care. When I got older I got tired of dealing with the shortcomings of cheap, shitty things and starting acquiring nice things.

As I have grown older and traveled (especially to central and south America) I have seen the mentality a lot. People that build houses that look like garbage, start falling apart almost immediately and have no real value. They don't have the skills to do any better, they aren't willing to learn how to do it right, but you can't convince them there is a better way because they did it themselves. Look at the poor guy's room. The cheapest carpet you can find, painted wood paneling that's not placed on the wall correctly and its the size of a walk-in closet. He calls is crap yet I bet the person that did the work originally was beaming with pride. Then he fills it with that "furniture", which is honestly a step down from pallet made stuff. It's sad.
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>wood
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>>1109600

Yep. When i was in kindergarten I was enamored with a glue gun and cardboard. And of superior quality to this degeneracy. This is a classic autistic lifehack NEET.
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>>1109557
Do whatever makes you happy OP.

I wont rain on your cardboard parade.
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>>1109600

Holy hell Mr. Psychoanalyst, you are drawing a lot of conclusions of my mindset from very little data. I think your issue is that you missed the whole point being unable to look past things that glitter and shine. I like cardboard and hot glue because it is like playing with Lego's, expedient to construct, yet can be easily altered. Not because of the quality, value, or looks of the end product. It is cardboard ffs. It is fun to work with, cheap, and functional which I see you do not understand.

I also like the bit about your drawn out hue hue example leading into the shifting of their attributes on to me.

I have never understood the whole living a life of excess thing, I am a man of efficiency. I do not need nice furniture or other things, I just managed to get rid of all that worthless stuff. Things only have the worth of what we assign to them. You may value a particularly large buttplug whereas I would not because I have no use for it unlike the untold enjoyment it would bring you. My table is worth constructing to me as I have use of it. The computer stand was worth building because I made it custom to my physique, ergonomics are something I value being a programmer. What the people who poorly built this place have to do with my attitude I am not sure.

I am sure you will not understand , however, I do not require fancy things to make me happy. I like simplicity so that I can focus on things that matter. I could comfortably live in a room half this size. Nothing sad about it other than your lack of a constructive attitude.

>>1109642
Nope, not NEET or autistic. Not sure what you mean by life hacks.

>>1109590
>>1109578

Good to see the creative attitude is still here.

>>1109630
Great idea, easy to work.
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this is the shittiest thing I've seen this year.
I really like if stuff is comfy, durable and nice to the touch. And this crap is nothing of those 3 things.

If you made something yourself doesn't mean it's instantly better than the things you can buy. A true patrician /diy/'er makes something of quality
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Never thought I would see the day so many people got so upset over fucking cardboard.
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kys
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>>1109660
>5 days in

It's only gonna get worse from here.
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What's ur hot melt of choice? I like the Surebonder Woodstiks. Almost titebond-tier strong but needs a real man's hot glue gun (100w)
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>>1109721
Right now I am using the surebonder all purpose sticks. They seem pretty decent so far. I have not done anything other than building the table and whatnot but they seem great for cardboard.
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10/10 bait thread, I really enjoyed reading all the autistic responses. Thank you op, have this hilarious gif.
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>>1109745
Glad you enjoyed it.

I just wanted to have a civil discussion about hot glueing pieces of cardboard together.
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>all these anons salty over a little cardboard
Probably a bunch of angry jews desu, they don't like it when someone can outjew them.
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>>1109557

the moment you let any liquid to get in touch with it, you are fucked

there are reasons nobody uses a cardboard as table surface

and as structures, they need to be enclosed to protect from liquid spills

hot glue is shit, smelly and no control, pva glue will be stronger on cardboards if done correctly
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Do the Matthias test on that table, pls. Post video.
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>>1109557
>sims_day1.jpg
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>>1109557
>what is: the definition of poor?
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>>1109780
A Jew for you

>>1109782
I only drink water and Gatorade. No worry about spills, is it does happen I can just cut and replace. Be ugly though. I like hot glue for the extremely quick cure time.

>>1109783
Table has been disassembled. Sorry.
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>>1109557
But hot glue sticks arent that cheap. When you factor in how long that will survive, you arent going to be saving any money at all.
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>>1109806
I am pretty easy on my things, the table and whatnot in the OP is several months old with daily use.

>>1109783
Pic related.

>>1109782
I am planning on getting PVA for gluing sheets together. Looks cleaner to if you glue several sheets of paper to it. Several sheets glued in a crosshatch makes for surprisingly strong material. That is what I love about materials, each has their own properties and combining them gives you different more options to play with.
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>>1109836
*gluing the cardboard in several crosshatched sheets. With paper as a shell.
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I'm interested OP, this is the first time I've posted on /diy/. Do you just use regular cardboard, or is there thicker stuff? Can you send pics of construction if you have them?
I really want to make one now
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>>1109845
Please dont
This is a poor foray into /diy/
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>>1109846
But cardboard is cheap and plentiful, and I don't have the tools required for wood
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>>1109847
>cardboard is cheap and plentiful
And complete shit

>I don't have the tools required for wood

This isnt justification to waste time on a desk you cant put anything on
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>>1109851
If you cannot build a desk out of cardboard that can hold weight you are a /diy/ failure. Fuck off woodfag.

>>1109845
It is mostly old amazon shipping boxes, priority mail boxes, and random others. Nothing special.
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>>1109845
just try to glue a small shelf for some cd

so u know how to glue things
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>>1109861
>If you cannot build a desk out of cardboard that can hold weight you are a /diy/ failure

Its not a question of whether you can or cannot, its whether its reasonable to.
I could make a desk out of popsicle sticks and toothpicks that could hold weight. its just fucking stupid to do it.
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>>1109861
You will need a knife, preferably a carpenter knife with spare blades. Some form of adhesive, I use hot glue but wood or Elmer's works. Each glue has its ups and downs. Hot glue cures fast, other glues hold much better and do areas better. If possible get a couple flat pieces of wood with an edge, these are used for making clean creases with nice straight folds. And a pen or marker for marking.
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>>1109866
Such a shitty argument, "hurr I think cardboard is stupid and pointless". Wood is stupid and pointless, why don't you build everything out of superior 1/4" stainless steel instead of easily damaged, weak, ugly, inferior wood?
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>>1109845
Getting strength from cardboard is like any material, a flat piece is weak until you fold it. Forming tubes whether round, square, triangle, ext can be used as supports. As you fold or roll them apply glue as you go to make it fairly strong.
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>>1109557
OP you should go full African and make a composite table out of mud and wood strips.
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>>1109878
should have also quoted >>1109836
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>>1109878
Lol, I will stick to my cardboard. Besides, ground is froze solid.

>>1109845
>>1109865
We will make a shelf.

First we will make the braces. Get a piece, mark the edges a satisfactory distance from the edge. This will be the flange you glue down. Then using the stick crease and fold both marks.
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>>1109885
Then mark from corner to corner of the non folded area and cut it.
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>>1109886
Mark and crease the adjacent side of the first flange. Then cut out the small corner square. You now have your braces.
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>>1109889
Shit, my sleep deprived brain has failed me. Make BOTH the flanges, then do the diagonal cut after cutting out all for corner pieces. Or just trim the ones
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>>1109885
Awesome op, I'm saving this thread for later, thank you
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>>1109894
Attach the braces to the bottom of the shelf, you have to reverse the folds on one of the braces so it makes a set. You do not need to go overboard on the glue but, that is up to you. I use three blobs, one on each end and one in the middle. Saves glue sticks compared to a line.
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>>1109895
You're welcome.

>>1109903
Now since the shelf is weak we will make a brace. More for example than actually needing it.

Cut another piece that fits between your braces. It has to be 4 times the length of your creasing sticks width.
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>>1109908
Make three creases in the new piece the width of the stick.
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Keep up the good work OP
Dont let anyone bring you down. Its your life, if you want to build cardboard furniture you do it.
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>>1109910
Then roll them up, mark the edge and cut off the excess.
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>>1109913
Put your glue on the flap that goes inside. For stronger supports you don't stop at 1 overlap, the more wraps the stronger it is. I like triangles because the have no play and are strong from the ends and sides.
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And now you have your brace ready to glue in.
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>>1109916
With the ends of the brace sitting on the flanges you will want to put a spacer or the shelf will sag to the support and then be supported.
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>>1109919
Now glue the support in place. Then for extra support glue the ends to the braces.

Where an edge meets a plane you can put a blob a bit from one end, then using the glue gun smear it along the crack to make a bead.
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>>1109922
There is your shelf. Now glue it somewhere useful.
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>>1109923
For best performance it is best to put a flange in the direction the weight is applied from. In this case the shelf having a flange pointed up would have really helped. Depends what you are doing whether you need it.

That should be enough to get you started. If something is weak in a direction you don't want, brace it. If it rips apart, glue it back together and put some extra on where it was weak.
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>>1109929
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>>1109872
>Such a shitty argument, "hurr I think cardboard is stupid and pointless".

Thats not what I said
Cardboard boxes are great for a lot of things. Using them as building material for furniture just isnt one of them.

>Wood is stupid and pointless, why don't you build everything out of superior 1/4" stainless steel instead of easily damaged, weak, ugly, inferior wood?

Both have their place in furniture building though. Thats using a building material for its intended purpose so its not a very hard hitting argument.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybgQJlYRrZs

How do you feel about this mans helicopter?
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>>1109947
You're right, my bad. You said:


>>cardboard is cheap and plentiful
>And complete shit

Although it may not be the quality of material wood is, to completely disregard it as a building material is foolish. Especially using the argument that it was not intended for building furniture. So what if its original intended purpose was to create a vessel to ship things in? Its purpose is what you give it. Ductape was not meant for probably 99% of what it is used for, but it is used regardless.

>>I don't have the tools required for wood

>This isnt justification to waste time on a desk you cant put anything on

What a fucking joke. He is trying to make do with the resources at hand and you call it a waste of time? Because its a "desk you can't put anything on"? Based on what? Cardboard by itself in a single sheet is not structurally sound? Neither is a single layer from a sheet of plywood. Put a bunch together though and oh golly gee try breaking that over your head. You can combine cardboard into structurally sound configurations using different methods. Yeah, wood is superior in strength, but it is not available to everyone as a building material. Someone in an apartment can build cardboard shit all day long with nothing but a few silent tools. When done the have some scraps of paper to clean up. Fire up a table saw, router, sander, or almost any power tool and you have a huge mess and probably irritated neighbors. Not to mention the cost difference, ignoring power tools which are a whole thing themselves, between plentiful cardboard most can get for free. Good luck scrounging up enough lumber to build a table and other furniture. 4 || 5 2x4s will run you about $8, where 50 gluesticks are $8 at Walmart here. And you can't do much with little lumber. You can do a shitton with 50 glue sticks though.

You should be ashamed of yourself, on a diy board discouraging people from attempting things because you are to fucking stupid to think outside the box.
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>>1109947
As for that mans helicopter I'm supposed to say "it will never work", then you go " oh yeah, why is that?", to which I am supposed to say, (probably with an air of isn't it obvious), "because he is using parts that will never fly", which would give you the openening to go, " AHA! *points finger* INFERIOR MATERIALS NOT MEANT TO DO THAT JUST LIKE CARDBOARD FURNITURE!"

Is that about right? Even so its still an invalid argument as cardboard does work as furniture where that is an overly complicated WH40K figurine.

Also, you can find several companies selling cardboard furniture. So your argument that it is not used for furniture has been completely btfo by chairigami, or I stand, and refold.
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>>1109996
*oristand
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>>1109989
>I dont have the means to build stuff
>so instead of buying premade furniture like every other person on the planet who lives in an apartment, I will build it out of trash

Great argument.
Did you know that every single time you go to the grocery store, you bring your saltines and tuna home in bags? These bags can be real handy when you need to fabricate clothes.

Afterall, clothes do nothing but cover your body right?
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>>1109996
>Is that about right?

Yeah, at least you are starting to understand

>Even so its still an invalid argument as cardboard does work as furniture
Sure it does, ask any homeless guy living in a box. It serves its purpose

>>1109996
>you can find several companies selling cardboard furniture

They arent hot gluing amazon boxes together. To compare yourself to those guys selling novelty furniture is funny
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>>1110001
>So instead of buying premade furniture
If you have this attitude, why the fuck are you on /diy/?
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>>1109933
OP, once again thank you. I screencapped this thread and saved the pictures, gonna hopefully get some cardboard this weekend
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>>1110018
Because this isnt etsy or pinterest.
Not having the means to do something properly means you need to rely on being a buyfag. Its just how it works.

Building with junk "furniture" with literal trash wont win you brownie points with anyone.
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>>1110001
So on a diy board you are advocating being a buyfag? Or do you consider buying premade furniture more in the spirit of this place?

>>1110004
>Sure it does, ask any homeless guy living in a box. It serves its purpose

That would be a shelter. And it does, not as good as wood, but it does work. Both as shelter and furniture. I have cardboard tables and a cardboard computer desk and they servered me just wonderfully. I understood the limitations and did not exceed them. The table was built to be a light writing table, I could have built a heavier one but I had no need. I would not bring an engine block into the house and treat the glass dining room table as a workbench. Just the same as I would not drop a stack of books onto my single layer cardboard table, because I under stood its limitations.

>They arent hot gluing amazon boxes together. To compare yourself to those guys selling novelty furniture is funny

You are really missing the point. You were arguing that cardboard is not an acceptable material for building furniture. Novelty or not, it is manufactured cardboard furniture.

The thing that bothered me is that you useless sack of sodden flesh come here to tell people to not even try because they cannot do it the way you think is correct.
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>>1110022
And who exactly am I trying to win brownie points with? I just want to have a bit of fun and build a desk
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>>1110021
Good luck to you.

>>1110022
Lol, is your worldview really that narrow? That is pretty pathetic desu. You cannot rely on yourself to make do so no one can, made my night right there. Jesus.
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>>1110022
And who the fuck cares about brownie points? Are you really that worried about what others think? Literally LOL. Tell them that they must rely on others if they cannot do it the perfect way, that will get you some bakery made brownie points right there.
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>>1110036
>>1110032
>And who exactly am I trying to win brownie points with?
>And who the fuck cares about brownie points?

People who post this literal garbage do.
In the "spirit of /diy/", people are proud of their handiwork and like to show it off.

Too bad this trend of pintrest and etsy shit is making people like you (who already admitted you dont have the means to do real work) to cobble together trash.
And somehow people are supposed to be impressed?

You impressed the one guy who only has $40 and no tools but wants to get a computer desk. So instead of buying a computer desk he is going to waste a bunch of time fucking around with cardboard. It wont take him much time to realize how dumb he was to listen to you.

>>1110034
>Lol, is your worldview really that narrow?

I just remember how long I tried to half ass and nigger rig everything I touched.

>The thing that bothered me is that you useless sack of sodden flesh come here to tell people to not even try because they cannot do it the way you think is correct.

Gonna have a hard time convincing people that conventional wisdom is wrong.

Are you the guy who was proud you melted a bottlecap onto some exposed wires instead of soldering them?
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>>1109557
Good job OP. I'm surprised someone managed to build something that complex out of hotglue and cardboard.

Not sure how well it will hold up to the test of time, but I guess it works for you for now. Maybe find something to coat the surface in in case you spill something; it doesn't look very flat on top.
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>>1110048
Thank you, it actually seemed to be holding up really well.

>>1110039
I never said that I did not have the means, I have a workshop with plenty of power tools and hand tools. I did this more for shits and giggles than anything else. Followed by it being a more efficient allocation of my resources.

When it comes to impressing people you do realize this is an anonymous place right? I wanted to see if anyone else has built anything out of cardboard. It's literally that simple.

>People who post this literal garbage do.

Is that what's bothering you? You see cardboard as trash? Is that why you are so fucking salty?

>So instead of buying a computer desk he is going to waste a bunch of time fucking around with cardboard

How would it be a waste of time if he achieves his goal? Unless you honestly think it impossible?

>I just remember how long I tried to half ass and nigger rig everything I touched.

Going out on a limb here, but I am guessing you were not very good at it, were you?

>Gonna have a hard time convincing people that conventional wisdom is wrong.

I grew up on a farm where the conventional wisdom is that you do what you have to do to get the job done with what you have available.

>Are you the guy who was proud you melted a bottlecap onto some exposed wires instead of soldering them?

That is absurd. Where did you even come up with that?

You are still missing the point though. Although I am starting to doubt you can see beyond the cardboard being "trash" rather than a material.
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>>1110066
>I grew up on a farm where the conventional wisdom is that you do what you have to do to get the job done with what you have available.

>I have a workshop with plenty of power tools and hand tools.

And so you ended up working with this miracle material cardboard?

>Going out on a limb here, but I am guessing you were not very good at it, were you?

Its not so much "not being good at it", but more realizing that the work you put in the beginning dictates the product you get in the end. If you start with shit, misuse it, you end up with shit.

>you see cardboard as trash?
I use cardboard all the time to mock up stuff.
Its not like ive never worked with the stuff.
I just know how much work you seemingly put in, but you came out with a table you said you couldnt put books down on.

I dont see that as functional. Youd be better off with a milk crate table

>That is absurd. Where did you even come up with that?

Some other idiot trotting around on here posted a thread and was bragging about how he "made do with what he had" and didnt "have to buy anything". Melted a bottlecap onto some wires like solder.

Much like what you are saying, using materials much like you have done.

He didnt have a soldering iron, he made due with what he had. It doesnt change the fact it was shit.

>You are still missing the point though.

No I get the point, I just disagree with it.
If you actually grew up doing shit on a farm, and you actually had a shop to work in, you would have all sorts of half done projects on the back burner just like everyone else does.

Instead you are fucking around with cardboard in your apartment.
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Cardboard advocate here
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>>1110076
At least he's actually finishing some projects, you twat.
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Hey, just checked through the thread. Currently undergoing chemo after your run in with Chancellor Butthurt, but I will likely be building some things out of shitboard since I have some excess hot glue from a prior project and just moved into my new house.

Chancellor Butthurt,

My bill for chemotherapy will be at your door within the week. Since your reading comprehension is quite low, I'll make my message clear. YOUR ATTEMPT TO CRUSH A MAN'S LOVE FOR CREATION HAS GIVEN ME CANCER. LITERALLY. Since you have enough time to be a douche on a friendly board, I recommend you get a job to pay for my treatment instead of wasting away your time /diy/ing a shitty argument over something that doesn't matter.

Sincerely,
Dr. Fuck yourself, you annoying, entitled fucking cunt, this is /diy/ not a containment board and I can't honestly believe I've been on /b/ over six years and I'm still not as big a piece of shit as you are, Jesus, fuck off, fucking Christ.

I'll be back with photos of my cardboard /diy/.
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>>1110076
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>>1109557
Looks like a homeless person's table
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>>1110097
>I need /diy/ to be my safe space

kek
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>>1110098
So you live at home on your parents farm
Is this why you cant afford to work with any other materials?
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>>1109557
Why didn't you just go dig in your Menard's dumpster at night and find a slab of smooth plywood and use that instead?
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>>1110103

I can afford other materials, your reading comprehension needs some work. I have stated that several times. There is something called "budgeting" that I have been practicing. Working out quite nicely.
Tl;dr I can afford better materials, I just choose not to.

>>1110104
Menard's is about 45 minutes away.
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>>1110110
Alright whatever floats your cardboard table
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>>1110089
Holy shit, nice.

>>1110097
Sweet, I am interested to see what you have created.
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>>1109721
Real man's glue gun? 100W? DON'T MAKE ME LAUGH! Pic related is my Bostik 260. This bitch pumps out ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY watts and provides instantaneous blistering, nalpalm like glue on demand. Plus it's assembled in Canada so that's something? I guess? Anyway I thought I'd share. Not often there's a hot glue gun related thread.
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>>1109557
Post this over on >>>/po/
Im sure they would take you right in.
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>>1110121
Fuck I spelled napalm wrong.
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>>1110039
>>1110076
Why don't you shut the fuck up and focus your energy elsewhere? Why do you think anybody gives a fuck about your superiority complex driven opinion?
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>>1110129
Yeah, and over people fucking around with cardboard of all things.
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>>1110132
>>1110129
Why do you need a safe space from criticism when you decide to show off your work?
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>>1110098
>kawaii heifers
where do you live anon?
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>>1110141
MI
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>>1110142
You gonna be watching the Lions vs the Seahawks?
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>>1110144
No, never really got into the football thing. Might hear some of it on the radio though.
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>>1110089
How long did that take you?
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>>1109666
Then you've never been to a magic card tournament.
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>>1110145
You're lucky, dodged the suffering of being a lions fan
The lions dont deserve to be in the playoffs and are going to get stomped
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>>1110204
lmao lions always tend to disappoint
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>>1110204
Everyone i know who calls them their team has a love/hate thing going on.
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I was determined not to be triggered by this, but I'm fucking triggered.
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>>1109929
>flange in the direction of the load

You mean a web, or more accurately, a haunch.
Flanges take bending.
Webs take shear and axial.
Haunches stiffen outstand flanges as struts

Learn a book nigger.
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>>1109557
I've never ever had to do this on /diy/ before but theres a first time for everything.

>sage
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>>1109571
>You are using the word "can" in a way in which it was not meant to be used
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>>1110199
about tree fiddy
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>>1110273
Do you honestly think this man cares?
He is building furniture out of cardboard for gods sake.
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It's not how I build now I prefer wood and metal but it reminds me of a project in the Navy where we needed a desk and table and had no requisition authority some triwall cardboard, glue and a couple coats of paint later it held up to sailors for at least the month I was there.
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Not OP, but I've built lots of things out of cardboard.

Mostly mock-ups but in a few occasions the mock-up was so good I never made the final project. Office stores sell cardboard shelving units for big$.
That's just cardboard with shelf paper glued to it.

Of course the cardboard I was using was 4-8 ply used in heavy industry shipping. Think cardboard up to 3/4" thick that will even choke a cardboard bailing machine.

The funny thing is if you look at Ikea, the tables etc are honeycomb (cardboard) with laminate wood.

Yea, OP's stuff is (cringe|keck)worthy. But the fun part is making shit.
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Hey guys, I dont want to hijack but I just got some building materials too.

Gonna build an end table
May even incorporate some old pizza boxes ive got laying around. I love the way OP used them to make legs.
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>>1109557
i like this thread. keep doing your thing OP
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>>1110100
Homeless people have some pretty fucking nice setups sometimes, I wouldn't complain.
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>>1109782
>hot glue is smelly
>suggests PVA glue
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>>1110121
You madman, this gun was not meant to be used outside the Canadian climate. You'll get people killed if they think they can use it just anywhere.
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...and for when you feel like getting really fancy.

Have fun, OP.
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>>1110585
Do you have any decent ones made out of used amazon or USPS priority mail boxes?

That real heavy stuff is just too expensive
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>>1110597
just layer the shit you got, man.
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>>1110579
Well actually I live in Canuckistan so I guess I'm operating it in it's natural habitat. But yeah you're right, it would be madness to use it anywhere with an ambient temperature of >10°C.
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Are there any sites that have instructions on creating sturdy cardboard boxes from generic larger pieces of cardboard you can get?

I want to create a cardboard box approximately the size of a tissue box that has an opening top flap with side flaps like pic related
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>this entire thread
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>>1110089
Back again, i guided a 12 year old over 2 weeks to build it with a laser cutter.

I usually just build mockups or my Halloween costumes with cardboard
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this thread is comfy
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>>1111023
Do you want me to take a picture of an unfolded sparkfun box? It's really not complicated
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In the spirit of http://www.fedexaminer.com/FedEx/modules.php?name=BoxFurniture
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>>1109557
We used to joke about my friend's house being made out of cardboard. Glad to see he's still doing well.
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>>1110204
>>1110220
>>1110227
RIP
Lions just shit the bed hard like they always do
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/r/ that you make something entirely out of cardboard without having to resort to junk wood or any other material other than hotglue
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Never stop building OP

10/10 thread
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>>1110022
It got him plenty of points with me, and I've been /diy/ since before moot was born.
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>>1110469
You didn't have to do that either, retard. You could accomplish literally the same thing by not replying. Or are you a reddit transplant that thinks sage is downvoting?
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>>1109836
>is several months old with daily use.
Several months isn't that long for furniture... Just sayin'.
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>>1112003
My parents have a Louis 14th sofa. One day it shall be mine !
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>>1112003
Yeah I know, but it was holding up for that time.

>>1111246
Done, though not pretty it is entirely cardboard.

Pic related.

>>1111102
Pretty fucking sweet.

>>1110584
I like the simplicity in this one. Looks strong too.

>>1110499
That's just it, not the best but fun.

>>1110273
I am a programmer, not ME. This is for fun.

>>1110479
Lol
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>>1112181
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>>1112184
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>>1112181
The fuck is an ME?
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>>1112186
mechanical engineer I guess
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>>1112185
Super light as well. Whole thing can't be more than 5 pounds.
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op why do you hate yourself so bad. nobody deserves to live like that
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>>1112188
Yeah.
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>>1112190
Suffer today for a better tomorrow.
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>>1112191
Im not an 'ME', i know what webs and flanges are.
Im not a programmer, i know what classes and functions are.

Im not a faggot, but i know what you are.

Cuck
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>>1112202
Not much of anything are you?
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>>1109557
Cardboard is the shit op, but let me give you a piece of advice, its just a bit more work but infinitely better result.
Cut a billion strips of corrugated cardboard between 4-6cm thick, with the corrugattion oriented up (this is important) paste them together then put a bit of glue on top of it
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>>1112400
forget the "put a bit of glue on top of it" that was a mistype. It should look like pic related, then just coat the whole thing in paper mache and you will have a strong smooth cheap durable god tier cardboard desk
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>>1109557
nice, but just a point of personal preference, anything i have that is meant to hold significant ish weight or expensive crap, as in the monitor or computer, I would make out of wood regardless.

planning to make my next desk myself out of plywood with some nice stained rosewood paneling on top

some nice thick 2x2 legs with some very flat wood outside, and rosewood down the side, with custom ducting for computer venting. of hot air.
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>>1112657
Why not just use actual rosewood? If it's a money issue, just save up to do it right later. If you do you'll be much happier with it.
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>>1109877
lol wow
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>>1112185
Nice cable management
Starting to see a pattern in the effort put into all of your work
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>>1112667
>cable management
>implying that's actually a thing anyone gives a fuck about

The real world isn't /g/ or whatever reddit shithole you crawled out of.
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>>1112670
>The real world isn't /g/ or whatever reddit shithole you crawled out of.

Of course
Doing things as poorly as you can get away with is common among a lot of people.
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>>1112673
Fire back all the comebacks you want, and I'll continue to thank God he made me normal, unlike you.
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>>1112679
But dont normal people think of cardboard as trash?
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>>1112715
Google: uses for cardboard. Then come back.
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>>1112717
But I can google things like the explanation of a Flat Earth and get replies.
The simple fact you have to google something that is seemingly not common knowledge should tell you something.
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>>1112660
Part of the reason is tooks, part of the reason is how heavy that shit would be.

The desk would largely be or 2 parts, possibly 3 with some latches to join under the desk

considering that
1/4" x 5" x 48" is 50$

looking at it that way... ok fuck real wood, just paneling my desk seems like it would cost an ungodly sum of money.

Need to look into vinyl stickers, embedding glass, and particleboard now.

ok particleboard is 4 feet by 8 feet for 24$
If i get some shitty hardwood in there for braces, or just ply wood braces, maybe aluminium... it would be good enough,

glue 2 of the boards together for the top, and in the void area i have to cut out use that either for the duct work or to stand the desk up. get a router, and get a small hold made to my right, maybe a 1 foot square, and drop some glass into there for drinks and shit. maybe plexiglass just in case.

just looked up vinyl stickers, literally fuck that shit, costs to much. looking at cheaper urethane resin, get coat of that on and sand it down... may not even need the glass if I make it thick enough.

will need to look into this more.
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>>1112720
Fuck off
Go shill your wood project elsewhere faggot
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>>1112719
Except the uses for cardboard has millions of hits leading to actual things that are useful. Whereas your bullshit example only leads to retards shitting about a retarded argument and using the least common denominator "celebrities" as their evidence.
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>>1112729
>Whereas your bullshit example

Weird
This whole spat started when you inferred that using a few zip ties to tidy up nasty wires is somehow abnormal and not something normal people do.

I guess you have to be from reddit or from /g/ to tidy things up.
I wonder how many search results come up for zip ties.
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>>1112723
Wrong board, fuccboi.
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>>1112731
How about not shitting up my thread?
You cant go off and shill your generic wood thread elsewhere?
Jesus H Christ.
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>>1112730
"cable management" is a meme. Stop trying to deflect. You and I know you meant an autistic level of "wires have no place in or around a computer." All normal people just hook shit from the end it comes from, to the end it goes to, and call it good.
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>>1112732
That would be great bait for a retarded person. You're not OP, and this has nothing to do with OP.
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>>1112734
Deflect from what exactly?
I was just pointing out that not spending 2 seconds to zip tie wires out of the way looks really bad. It makes you look lazy and like you just dont care.

> You and I know you meant an autistic level of "wires have no place in or around a computer."
Im not sure how you came to that projection. You didnt even attempt to tidy your wires one bit, it says a lot about someones project.

>All normal people just hook shit from the end it comes from, to the end it goes to, and call it good.

I was under the impression that "normal people" dont piece together their own computers.
But what do I know, apparently normal people like to play around in the trash can.
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>>1109557
I love how this thread has pissed off so many retards. Great job OP.
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>>1112754
This
The troll is strong in op. Instead of getting people to enjoy his creation, he blows up at any criticism and makes everyone mad at him.

/b/ level trolling, he is masterful.
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>>1112773

Oh my
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>>1112773
> everyone
Who the fuck do you think you're speaking for cunt? Not something I'd do, but I got no beef with OP or his methods. Grow the fuck up faggot.
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>>1112895
>Grow the fuck up faggot.

At what point are you considered "grown up"?
When you move out of your parents farmhouse and dont have to resort to using cardboard for your furniture anymore?
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>>1112901

300 confirmed kills and access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps used to be enough
but nowadays you are supposed to know to use a hot-glue gun as well.
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>>1112901
>At what point are you considered "grown up"?
When you can see things you don't like and move along with your life without throwing a tantrum that will achieve literally nothing.

You'll get there one day anon.
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>>1112907

Senpai stronk, making us leak.
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>>1112907
But I like this thread, why would you plead with me to leave?

I mean I build all of my clothes out of old grocery bags. Its kind of the same thing right?
I stitch them together and use them as bed sheets and pillow covers.
Im all for reusing and recycling.

Im currently building a glass bottle wall in my parents back yard. Its only a matter of time before I can move out there. Itll be a good thing too, my dad gets a little mean when he drinks. Yells about how little money we have and how we have to save every single penny.

I have a lot in common with OP, I was just explaining that he is a master troll riling people up
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>>1112911
xD
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>>1112901
>working your ass off killing yourself to buy a jew cage just to say you're one of the normals when you could have had a much easier life renting a room in your parents house helping pay the bills amd buying food, actually taking advantage of your parents hard work instead of going back and doing it all over again, making their work for naught
I mean I get it's nice to have your own place, but is it really worth it when it kills you just to keep it? People used to keep houses in the family for many generations, what happened?
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>>1112918
I grew up in a small ass town in a state with a lot of farming.

I knew of 2 families who sold their farms altogether, and another who had sold the farm years ago but lived in the old family house still.

There was a dispute over the final piece of land which held the house, the relatives all got their cut of the money for the last piece of land. Then they did a controlled burn of the house because the new owner didnt want it. I helped prep the house. A house that old is complete and utter garbage and needed burnt down.

They just all just moved into town into small typical small town crap houses.
It wasnt but a decade ago that kicking your kids out of the house at 18 wasnt uncommon, especially with the old boy types in a small ass town.
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>>1112925
The ones who sold their house years ago but still lived there, what happened to them?
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>>1112929
They were the ones with the dispute about the land and the controlled burning. (my best buddy, its why I helped strip the house)

Not much really, they just took their savings and their cut of the money and bought a small retirement house in town.

They still live there. There wasnt actually room for my friend, so he lived in the garage for a while before getting his own place. He is renting an old house (just like me and everyone else I know).

The other 2 kids losing their farm happened back in grade school. Not sure what why or how.

I know that there are only 3 farms left in the area that get heavy corn subsidies from the state and government. They buy million dollar combines that literally drive themselves, continue to buy up all the other small farms (that havent been used for farming in years)

Its a sad state of things, and im sure its like that in small towns all over.
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>>1112933
So you are telling me that farmland sits idle where you live? Even though in the rural upper peninsula of Michigan there is competition for land? Where there is fucking no one, and the growing season blows? People from the south go up there to set up shop because competition has driven land prices in the south sky high.

Yet the growing season and soil are good enough that they can produce enough to afford ridiculously expensive combines? That type of climate would attract farmers, which leads to competition, which leads to all land being snatched up. Not left to sit. The only exception to that is the set aside program, which does not sound likely as they are not currently farming.
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>>1112940
>So you are telling me that farmland sits idle where you live?

When kids inherit the house, inherit the money and dont want to farm anymore they just rent it out to other few local farmers in lieu of selling it.
So no, it doesnt sit idle, but the kids arent doing shit with the land. But again, this is just my experiences within a town of 3000 people and just 3 real big names in town.

I know of one family who has a tree removal and towing business instead of actually farming. They rent out half of the farm to one of the big shots for farming, and then uses the other half as a place to keep their heavy equipment and they tow all the wrecked cars to it.
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>>1112944
Sounds more reasonable. It does sound like you probably grew up in a semi rural area.


>>1112901

>When you move out of your parents farmhouse and dont have to resort to using cardboard for your furniture anymore?

I never said this was my parents, only that it is not an apartment. It is rented out to the workers on the farm, we live here for free as long as we work there. I am a milker.

I don't "resort" to using cardboard, I am budgeting, and thought it would be a fun project (it was). I can afford wood if I wanted, but I don't. Pretty simple.

>>1112915
I don't give two shits for recycling, although if you really wanted to make stuff out of bags and bottles be my guest. To each their own, that is what I believe, which you obviously do not with the whole "REEEEEE ITS TRASH!!!1!!, STOP USING IT AS A BUILDING MATERIAL!". My father did not get abusively drunk, if yours did then sucks for you, I don't really care desu. We have very little in common most likely.
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>>1112401
Need some glue other than hot glue. This would be great.
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fuck all these dickheads op i think this is cool and will make myself a CD rack out of cardboard just because of this thread

and to all the faggots saying how cardboard is trash material, why is it used for shipping of just about everything? what about that really fucking thick cardboard they use to put water heaters and shit in? those are in no way flimsy and if you crossed them and glued them together they would be as strong as wood if not stronger
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>>1113196
You know nothing about materials.
Kys
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>>1113196
>why is it used for shipping of just about everything?

Its cheap
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>>1113426
You forgot
>and strong for the price

Most people in this thread have obviously never dealt with double wall corrugated cardboard.
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>>1109565
>see no reason to buy what I can build.
Yeah, but you could like. Use wood.
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>>1113651
>Most people in this thread have obviously never dealt with double wall corrugated cardboard.

Ive dealt with really strong cardboard before. We have it at my work, half pallets with thick heavy cardboard on top that forklift motors are shipped on.

By the time you try to remove the pallets, its fucked and unusable for much of anything. I take the regular old shipping cardboard and take it home with me.

Have you ever actually bought low count cardboard new?
Its not cheap like you think. And the heavy duty stuff is not accessible (and would be expensive).

Its ok for large companies who ship shit, because in large runs cutting out marginal costs is important.
But when I am building something, it would be worth the extra 10$ to buy wood.

Or I would be dumpster diving looking for quality cardboard which I wont ever find.
It would only be marginally cheaper than
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>>1113755
Every piece of double wall I've found has been in pretty damn good condition. Obviously cardboard that's had a very large compressive load like that is gonna be shit, as in that instance it's basically padding.

You're just looking it the wrong place M8, try places like big box stores, ask if they have any heavy cardboard.

Also, quad wall Gaylords are actually pretty cheap for the amount of cardboard you get.

>y not use wood tho?

Not OP, but because we don't have to.
OP started a thread on building things with cardboard because he wanted to, and you people came and shitposted it into oblivion from the start.

You really should read the sticky
>makers gonna make
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>>1113758
>try places like big box stores, ask if they have any heavy cardboard.

It all goes into a baling machine to be sold to recyclers. Anyone who has worked in a big box store knows this. Even grocery stores use them.

If you find a store small enough to not have a baler, you are stuck dumpster diving for cardboard in marginal shape.

>Also, quad wall Gaylords are actually pretty cheap for the amount of cardboard you get.

Yet cheap lumber isnt that much more expensive.
Thats the whole point. Why not spend 25% more money to get something that will last 500 times longer?

If you arent paying for good cardboard, you get shit cardboard.
Ive moved several times. Ive dumpster dived to get cardboard boxes to move with. The trash far outweighs anything decent, half of the shit is perforated for rip out sections.

>OP started a thread on building things with cardboard because he wanted to, and you people came and shitposted it into oblivion from the start.

Because its just doesnt make sense
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>>1113766

>It all goes into a baling machine to be sold to recyclers.
Anyone who has worked retail will also tell you that most places gather a pile of cardboard before putting it in the baler, if you catch them at the right time you basically get you pick.

Most of the time the receiving area manager will be more than happy to let you know if they have good cardboard, since most places actually have to pay to get it hauled off.
>Yet cheap lumber isnt that much more expensive.
Not really. Where I am I can get a full-size Gaylord for about $25. That's somewhere in the neighborhood of 8x4ft of table surface, you'd be hard pressed to find wood or even MDF that cheap.

>Because its just doesnt make sense
Neither does /diy/ing things that could be bought for less money than it cost to make it yet somehow this is still /diy/ and not /dibuy/.

OP is making something out of a material he enjoys working with, and I can see why.
You can't cut a wood table top with a pair of scissors or a box cutter and assemble it with hot glue.

Whether OP is saving money or not, he's using an unusual material that most people think would be impossible to use for structural applications such as those in a table.
OP seems to have made this thread because he surprised himself with how strong cardboard is.

Most factories where assembly workers are basically skilled laborers, the company spends a lot of time training them.
So they start new workers out with cardboard and hot glue to build a workstation. Once they've been with the company for around a month and the worker has built what they feel is the most productive workstation, the build one out of 8020.

MSA does this, and it's because cardboard is
>easily re-configurable, light, and easy to tear down-yet strong enough to use

Just like OP says he desires.

So actually it does make sense, especially since OP sounds like he won't stay in one place super long.
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>>1113782
>if you catch them at the right time you basically get you pick.

Of course
Something that makes the business money is just given away. And all you have to do is ask to walk all the way into the employees only stockroom to pick through their supposed piles of cardboard.

When I worked retail, we would have "piles of cardboard" for a half hour at most. After you stock your shit you walked your cardboard back into the baler room, open the baler and throw the shit in and close it. If you were unlucky you got there when it was full and had to run the machine and pull out the baled stack.

Do you understand how much room just piles of cardboard would actually take up?

You are making garbage up in your head.
When I was looking for moving boxes, most people told me to fuck off.
A single dollar store told me the mornings that their dumpster was unlocked for the garbage men so I could grab boxes. They refused to unlock it for me.
Dumpsters are locked for liability reasons.

>That's somewhere in the neighborhood of 8x4ft of table surface,

You can buy a full 3/4 sheet of MDF for $30

>OP is making something out of a material he enjoys working with, and I can see why.
>You can't cut a wood table top with a pair of scissors or a box cutter and assemble it with hot glue.

He explicitly said he has a "shop" with tools and is only doing this because its free.
So your retarded idea of paying the same price for a gaylord as MDF holds no water.

Saying you can get it for free when in reality its never going to happen holds no water.

Factories supposedly letting people mock things up with cardboard doesnt mean its a good building material.


OP wants to do something poorly and as cheaply as possible. Its something unconventional because its a huge waste of effort.

Are you really that surprised that people would shit on him?
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>>1113782
You got it precisely, I am still working on how I want my workstation and this allows me toodify it until I get it perfect. I do move around quite a bit as well, meaning that I can easily move by either tearing things apart into manageable pieces or tossing them. It is fun to work as I can just grab the knife and gun and go to town. If I fuck up then oh well, it is cardboard. It is fun, you get that, retardando does not.

I was surprised by the combination of these materials. They worked extremely well, I only used wood in the beginning because I doubted cardboards strength.

The factory workstation describes what I am doing perfectly, I have to rebuild already to accommodate a new monitor.

>>1113821
>When I was looking for moving boxes, most people told me to fuck off.

When I worked retail if someone asked for cardboard I would give it to them, unless they were a jackass, then we did not have any. I am guessing you were the jackass.

Your reading comprehension sucks balls, I said I used cardboard because its fun and easily reconfigured. Being free is a bonus. I could use wood, for the X time, cardboard is a choice. I never claimed it was superior to wood, don't know where you are getting that. I said it was sufficient for my purposes, which you are either to simple to understand, or just like making an ass of yourself.
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>>1113821
>Something that makes the business money is just given away.
Every store in my area actually has to pay a company to come pick up their cardboard. There are no companies in my area that buy cardboard.
In fact, none in my state.

>you are making garbage up in your head
I mean, I've done this in real life, multiple times in the past two months, so unless you're telling me you put hallucinogens in my drink, you don't know what you're talking about.

>You can buy a full 3/4 sheet of MDF for $30
an 8ftx 4ft sheet for $30? really? What magical land do you live in where you can get a sheet that big for that price?
You do know how long 8ft is right?

>OP wants to do something poorly and as cheaply as possible. Its something unconventional because its a huge waste of effort.
>i.e. OP is just being jew

I suggest you actually read the thread before low tier shitposting
from >>1109658

> I like cardboard and hot glue because it is like playing with Lego's, expedient to construct, yet can be easily altered. Not because of the quality, value, or looks of the end product. It is cardboard ffs. It is fun to work with, cheap, and functional which I see you do not understand.
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>>1113196
Fuck yeah, post pics when finished, or partway through. I am interested to see what you can do.
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>>1113847
>I never claimed it was superior to wood, don't know where you are getting that.

You talk about reading my comprehension, where exactly did I say you thought cardboard was superior to wood?

>I said it was sufficient for my purposes, which you are either to simple to understand, or just like making an ass of yourself.

Just like people will build little stands and other things with lego.
"being sufficient" doesnt mean its not fucking retarded or a waste of time.
Especially if this other retard is paying wood prices for stuff you apparently dumpster dive for

>I mean, I've done this in real life, multiple times in the past two months,

Just like you cant find a full sheet of 3/4 MDF for its standard price?
Just like you think 8 feet is huge?

>an 8ftx 4ft sheet for $30?

Im guessing you just arent familiar with building materials and their prices now are you?
I guess I shouldnt be surprised, you are talking up cardboard afterall.

You can buy voidless birch veneered 1/2 plywood that can be stained and look beautiful for 40$ a sheet.
But im guessing thats too expensive or too big for people, even if they have the "spirit of diy" in them

>I suggest you actually read the thread before low tier shitposting

Everyones read the thread. You are going to have to try a little harder than saying "its like lego" to convince people its worthwhile.

I put stuff together with lego and kinex when I was 12. Thats pretty much how everyone sees OPs projects. Its a perfect analogy.
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>>1113849
>an 8ftx 4ft sheet for $30? really? What magical land do you live in where you can get a sheet that big for that price?
>You do know how long 8ft is right?
Not who you were replying too but I would just like to point out that $29.96 is the price for a 4 foot by 8 foot piece of 3/4th inch MDF at Home Depot. You can get it cheaper elsewhere. So, I guess that magical land is just about anywhere in the US?
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>>1113863
>"being sufficient" doesnt mean its not fucking retarded or a waste of time.
Especially if this other retard is paying wood prices for stuff you apparently dumpster dive for

The things I built function as intended, I do not see how they are a waste of time. If they did not work, then yes, they would be a waste of time. They do work though, so they are not a waste of time.

Never said I dumpster dived, I get mine from amazon orders and a tractor dealer.

>Everyones read the thread. You are going to have to try a little harder than saying "its like lego" to convince people its worthwhile.

I put stuff together with lego and kinex when I was 12. Thats pretty much how everyone sees OPs projects. Its a perfect analogy.

It is not a perfect analogy, but close.

All three are:
>Easy to work with.
>Require minimal tools, knex and legos need none.
>Easily reconfigured again and again until perfect, wooden things are not comparatively easy to rework.
>Fun to build and create with.

Cardboard is different though in several ways:
>Not stupid expensive like Lego's or knex. It can be found for nothing if you try.
>can be used to build large items easily.
>Not limited to the static structure and dimensions of the leg is or knex.
>Can be used for anything you want, not just skeletal structures.

Really though if you are dead set on not using it then don't, people who are interested will.
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>>1113876
>Really though if you are dead set on not using it then don't, people who are interested will.

And I guess we can leave it at that
If I cant convince you otherwise, when you get into high school maybe your shop teacher can.
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>>1113849
>an 8ftx 4ft sheet for $30? really? What magical land do you live in where you can get a sheet that big for that price?

Anywhere in the US that has a Home Depot. Less, if you get it at some other places. Hell, you can get an 8x4 sheet of 3/4" hardwood ply for under $50, and it will actually have a surface nice enough to ]finish with something other than paint or laminate over.
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>>1110039
Wait a second you're telling me I can use a bottlecap instead of solder? I've got to get on this.
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>>1114033
Its free, it will hold 2 pieces of wire together, it would be "sufficient" for most things.
Its a pretty good idea, thinking outside of the box.
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>>1109557
Is this the new pallet wood furniture meme?
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>>1114052
Its not a meme, its a viable source of building material for all sorts of furniture.
Get your head out of your ass
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When I work with cardboard I use a mixture of 1 part water and 1 part wood glue/Elmer's glue and weight/clamps to hold things together as it dries. It lasts as long as the cardboard lasts.

I use it mostly for making large multiply panels and for prototypes. Sometimes we build a full mockup of something in cardboard before ordering the ultra expensive exotic hardwoods.

>googled pic
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>>1114067
That's exactly what they said about pallet wood. Must be an evolving meme
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>>1110022
this is a new level of stupidity, coming onto a DIY board and complaining about DIY activities.

Since you seem to love hating on board topics on that very board, perhaps you should check out someplace more geared toward that kind of thing, like /v/ or /a/.
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>>1114403
The big disconnect everyone is having is deciding what /diy/ actually is.

It seems there are a surprising amount of people who think that kindergarten arts and crafts belong on a board dedicated to building and repairing things.

I guess it falls under the umbrella technically. Maybe ill make a pillow fort design thread.
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Why not go buy a 15 dollar particle board door, screw some legs onto it, and you'd spend 15 minutes making a desk that could last you a long time vs a desk that is simultaneously an insect a d rodent magnet, a fire hazard, and fucked the second your poor ass spills some faygo on it while emulating backyard wrestling 2?
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