Its time for a whole new cordless tool set. Who is gonna have

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>>1088909
this badboy

>>1088912

Holy shit :O Do want!!! Didn't have anything in mind until now

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>>1088912
its beautiful

>>1088909

Those porters are utter shit. I saw the deal at Lowes for them and was considering buying them to replace my current set.

Fucking all plastic. Utter shit.

>>1089010
>Fucking all plastic. Utter shit.

What is this even supposed to mean?
That drill clearly has a metal racthing chuck, and the impact has a metal housing.
Thats about as much metal as youll get from ANY brand.

These are rebadged low line Dewalts anyways.
Ive picked them up a few times, nothing particularly wrong with them

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>>1089014
>That drill clearly has a metal ratcheting chuck,
Not that guy but, that's clearly not a "metal chuck". Picture related.

>Thats about as much metal as you'll get from ANY brand.
Jacob's, Rohm and even Makita would like to have a word with you.

>These are rebadged low line Dewalts anyways.
>DeWalt
>AKA Black & Decker Professional
You are not helping your case by saying that.

>nothing particularly wrong with them
Unless it says "Porter-Cable Machine Company, subsidiary of Rockwell Manufacturing Co." on it then there's nothing particularly right with them either.

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>>1089014

Here's your "metal ratching chuck" on a drill worth a shit. Wanna bet which one lasts longer?

>>1088912
So Much Want
My boner has a boner

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>>1089014

Oh hay its that one guy who thinks dewlat is a bad line of tools.

>>1089053
looks heavy

>>1089061

Yeah I guess it is heavy if you're a limp wristed faggot.

I went from Porter Cable 20v Max to Makita LXT. I am a much happier man now.

That said, the PC lineup is pretty good if you don't need a good tool selection or the latest features.

>>1089042
>>1089053
>this fucking autist

I didnt say they were a professional line of tools. They are priced accordingly.
But it DOES have a metal ratcheting chuck and they arent bad tools. Comparing apples to oranges wont help your argument.

But to say that tools are shit because they are plastic is some of the most retarded shit I have ever heard.

>>1089060
Im defending them you retard

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>>1089070

>Im defending them you retard

I thought

>low line Dewalts

Ment you considered Dewalt to be low line.
But you were refering to the PC tools as equal to the lower end dewalts.

my mistake.

>>1089070

>priced accordingly

They're $279 for the full set at Lowes. Home Depot sold the entire Gen5X line for $299 last July.

Fuck off.

>>1089078

The 9 piece set isn't $279. The 6 piece set is. The only difference between it and the original Gen5X offering is Ridgid had a pistol grip LED light and no multi tool. And $20.

Not my fault you homos don't know that summer is the best time for actual deals.

Home Depot Certified Hardware Sales Associate here.

this is our current selection of Black Friday power tool sales, available both online and in stores.

http://www.homedepot.com/b/Featured-Products-Power-Tool-Combo-Kit-Savings-Two-Free-Power-Tools/N-5yc1vZcf31

all 5 of our major tool lines (Ryobi, Rigid, Dewalt, Milwaukee, Makita) have some great tool combos ranging from $99 to $499, depending on the quality and how many tools you want.

if you are looking to completely change out your tool lines with some modern stuff id recommend looking at the $399 combo sets from the 4 big manufacturers. that will give you a brushless Drill/Hammer Drill, brushless impact driver, a variety of battery sizes and either a flashlight or brushless saw depending on the brand. you will then have the option of 2 additional free bare tools (only certain tools qualify for this). giving you a total of 5 tools for $400, all with modern motors, carrying bags and warranties ranging from 3 years to Lifetime Warranties on Rigid tools when you register them on the Rigid website.

if you are just looking for some budget home stuff just get Ryobi's Ultimate tool combo kit which just dropped to $199. it will get you everything in that porter cable kit minus the jig saw and grinder. you can buy a 18v grinder separately and Rigid makes a modular jig saw that can be swapped out with the multi-tool head in Ryobi's kit.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-ONE-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Ultimate-Combo-Kit-6-Tool-P884/203466936

>>1089093
Thanks anon.
Exactly the information I was looking for

>>1089093
I love your name

So what's the better drill? Between dewalt, ridgid, Milwaukee, and makita, I mean

>>1088912
saw a video about it, it burns a whole charge to make 1 or 2 cup coffe... its shit

>>1088909
I have the two drills and the oscillating tool. I've used the shit out of them and they are pretty solid. Usually my bits are getting ruined before the drill runs out of power. I got far more use out of the battery oscillating tool that I ever imagined. Lowes had a pretty good deal on this stuff a few weeks ago but you had to get some coupons and do some stupid stuff.

>>1089133
You are cutting too fast without enough lube/coolant.
A good drill bit should stay sharp a very long time when cared for properly.
Why don't Americans get this?

>>1088912
Thought it was amazing...until I found out that it drains and entire charge for 2 cups of coffee.

>>1089139
ur mom drains my entire charge for 1 cup of coffee...

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>>1089127
most drills these days outside of a Harbor Freight are pretty solid to begin with, the biggest difference comes down to how much you plan on using them and what kind of features you are looking for from the drill and the larger battery platform as a whole.

i can do a breakdown of the different brands but as far as the "best drill" we carry it's Milwaukee's M18 Fuel Hammer Drill. its Milwaukee's (and therefore TTI's) flagship drill set with all of their best engineering and technology like brushless motors, Redlink software, huge batteries and optional One Key Bluetooth connectivity if you like gimmicky bullshit (it works fine but its a silly gimmick for 99.9% of customers).

http://www.homedepot.com/b/Featured-Products-Power-Tool-Combo-Kit-Savings-Milwaukee-150/N-5yc1vZcf39

>>1088909
I have porta cables, most of these tools except the weird vibrator thing, the jig saw, and my light is differant.

>>1089181
I built my deck and did small shit on a couple of my properties, used the grinder in the shop a bit. Seems good enough. Probably on par with homeless despot's house brand rigid, but not as good as defalt.

>>1089173
>i can do a breakdown of the different brands
that would potentially be very interesting

>>1089093
>http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-ONE-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Ultimate-Combo-Kit-6-Tool-P884/203466936

looks like that kit has the crappy older style sawsall

>>1089270
that one is fine, its still way better than the one sold in Ryobi's 4 piece combo kit. the new one is more powerful and has that blade lock mechanism for easier loading but its not a huge hardware difference. if you want the better one go buy that $99 Ryobi drill kit and the saw will be free.

>>1089093
Lowe's CSA here.

Homeless Depot has us beat for Black Friday deals on tools, if you either want cheap(Ryobi), or want to really buy into a line with the $399 deals.

If you just need a good drill or impact, come to us for a $99 20v Max Dewalt, or $149 for our 24v Max Kobalt drill/impact driver, which I'd recommend over Porter Cable/Ryobi/18v Dewalt/lower end 20v Max Dewalt/Hitachi, but not Milwaukee/Makita/the nicer Dewalt 20v stuff. They're as comfy as Dewalts, and comfier than anything else, with a 5 year tool/3 year battery warranty, and $10 1.5Ah/$20 2Ah/$50 4Ah batteries, all handled in-store.

We do have a few good deals on things like a $20 laser measurer, some Lennox reciprocating saw blades, $39 or $49 Porter Cable oscillating tool, and a Lennox hole saw kit. Buy online and we'll pull it for you, but if it says we only have one left, fuck you it's already in someones cart in the store.

>>1089173
Could you do a breakdown on Ryobi and Dewalts drills? They both have too many options. The rest of the good brands are a bit clearer, pretty much only offering a brushed/brushless version, plus hammer models of each, or like Makita, with their normal drills, then their subcompacts.

>>1089185
i know the brands we carry the best based on personal experience, customer feedback and info from vendors so i cant say much about stuff like Hitachi or Metabo that we dont have access to. i know Festool is good tier for woodworking and Hilti stuff is bulletproof for heavy construction pros but beyond that i couldnt care less.

Ryobi- TTI's home-use brand, as long as its not something you need to use everyday and your employment depends on it they will work just fine. plenty of people get 5-10 years out of Ryobi stuff with no issues, they have an amazing selection of oddball tools (caulking guns, sewer snakes, tire inflators, hot glue guns) that all use the same battery platform that has been around for 20 years, plus the lawn and garden stuff that use the same batteries making it probobly the best "home use" platforms. being TTI you see tech like Brushless motors and hydraulic impact drivers trickle down from the higher end brands into Ryobi tools over time.

Rigid- i call these "high end home use" tools, contractors can use them but dont expect them to last compared to a Milwaukee or Makita. they are much better quality but really arnt meant for heavy commercial use, they even used to void the lifetime warranty if the maintenance techs believed you had abused them from overuse. Rigid has the smallest line of what we carry but the mainline tools (hammer drill, impact driver, circular saws and reciprocating saws) keep up with better brands in features and build quality but the lifetime warranty is definitely needed to make up for the lack in long-term quality and cheaper materials. ive got a few Rigid tools at home and i've been really impressed with their performance and capability (got a brushless hammer drill and brushless 7 1/4 circular saw w/ 2ah and 4ah batteries last Christmas for $150, it was a hell of a deal).

>>1088912
I have this 3AH battery will do two brews. It's awesome

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>>1089294
>Rigid
So, how long do you stare at their name every day and yet still manage to spell it wrong?

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>>1089294
Dewalt- lots of people stick by Dewalt for name recognition alone, and while they are by no means bad i dont have much love for them. some people swear by them, some people hate them. ive seen plenty returned to the store with mechanical problems out of the box that other brands dont suffer from as much. their first brushless drills were junk but have since improved and their brushless line has grown a lot since then. they have a fantastic selection of every other tool needed for the job and are built to survive the abuse of the jobsite. the 60v Flexvolt line is pretty interesting for heavier construction applications but i really doubt all the tools are actually running at a full 60v since its just 3 20v batteries daisy-chained together on the inside. the batteries themselves are also massive when used on 20v tools, just as big as Milwaukee's 9ah bricks but with 1/3 less longevity.

Makita- they invented the cordless drill, dont forget that. Makita has stayed in the same Japanese hands the whole time so construction quality has stayed relatively the same and ive spoken with plenty of people with Makita tools that are 20-25 years old and still running strong. they have an insane selection of tools, you can build an entire house with Makita tools fueled by Makita coffee >>1088912 then take your Makita bicycle down the street to do some yard work with Makita tools wearing your Makita cooled jacked while your Makita roomba vacuum cleans up the mess. watch out for the white Makita tools, they are lighter duty stuff meant for home use. they work fine but arnt built to the same quality as the regular blue stuff or new black tools. my one gripe is that they seem to a little conservative when it comes to raw power output from batteries and motors; their 12v tools are cheap but weak for their class and their larger tools need 36 volts of power (2 batteries) to run things other brands can do with a single 18v. maybe thats how they last so long?

Im for Rigid tools....lifetime batteries that i have warranteed many times.

>>1089303
by being Dyslexic as fuck. it also doesnt help that we carry 2 different Ridgid lines made by two different companies for two different departments with only a slight color difference to confuse people.

Milwaukee- i didnt have much experience with Milwaukee tools when i started here but i've been really impressed with their quality and the amount of technology they put into their stuff. everything feels really solid and most people would never guess that they were made in China like everything else; older guys say there was a dip in quality when they were bought out by TTI but im not seeing it. the 18v line has a huge selection of tools, more than Dewalt but no yard tools like Makita. Milwaukee's motors and batteries put out an insane amount of power, especially the higher performance Fuel line and the huge 9ah batteries that give a good kick in output over regular batteries.

Milwaukee's M12 line is also leaps and bounds better than their 12v competitors, they have 5-6 times as many tools to choose from with all the same technology improvements of the M18 line but 40% smaller. the higher end M12 Fuel drills are just as powerful as a Ryobi or Ridgid 18v drill in a smaller, better made package. i recommend them to a lot of people, from basic homeowners who want something affordable but better quality and people like electricians who only use them for smaller applications but will need them daily and expect them to run flawlessly for years.

>>1089288
there are few generic Ryobi drills, most are slight variants of two different models, the smaller with with the more intricate rubber overmold is the slightly more powerful model.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-ONE-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Starter-Drill-Kit-P1810/205202601

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-ONE-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Compact-Drill-Driver-Kit-P1811/205651590

from there they have a 18v hammer drill and a new brushless hammer drill, which is pretty much just a rebranding of Ridgid's compact hammer drill thats been around for a while.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-ONE-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-Hammer-Drill-Kit-P1812/205754060

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-18-Volt-ONE-Brushless-Hammer-Drill-Kit-P1813/300225309

Dewalt can be a bit more complicated, especially with the weird "special buy" drills and the older ones that got phased out due to faulty motors. The $99 Dewalt kit we both carry is pretty much a bottom of the barrel repainted Black and Decker. here are some links from the Lowes site, they might not be the best prices but it will show which is which.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/DEWALT-20-Volt-Max-Lithium-Ion-Li-ion-1-2-in-Cordless-Drill-with-Battery-and-Soft-Case/50040962

from there you've got their standard 20v drill with the large black plastic chuck and clutch.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/DEWALT-20-Volt-Max-Lithium-Ion-Li-ion-1-2-in-Cordless-Drill-with-Battery-and-Soft-Case/3441512

the compact hammer drill.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/DEWALT-1-2-in-20-Volt-Max-Lithium-Ion-Li-ion-Variable-Speed-Cordless-Hammer-Drill/50022216

the full sized hammer drill.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/DEWALT-2-Tool-20-Volt-Max-Lithium-Ion-Li-ion-Brushed-Motor-Cordless-Combo-Kit-with-Soft-Case/3443404

a cheap special buy brushless drill.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/DEWALT-20-Volt-Max-Lithium-Ion-Li-ion-1-2-in-Cordless-Brushless-Drill-with-Battery-and-Soft-Case/1000135807

the standard brushless drill.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/DEWALT-20-Volt-Max-Lithium-Ion-Li-ion-1-2-in-Cordless-Brushless-Drill-Battery-Included-Hard/1000014134

compact hammer drill.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/DEWALT-20-Volt-Max-Lithium-Ion-Li-ion-Variable-Speed-Brushless-Cordless-Hammer-Drill/50040970

the "premium" hammer drill.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/DEWALT-1-2-in-20-Volt-Max-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Li-ion-Variable-Speed-Brushless-Cordless-Hammer-Drill/1000039891

brushless models for the most part are more powerful than similar brushed models, but that full sized brushed hammer drill is quite the beast and better than all but the premium hammer drill. these are the main drills you'll see in various combo sets with a variety of batteries, luckily theres less variety in the impact drivers.

So does HD still accept Harbor Freight coupons?

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Recently bought a Milwaukee kit.

My old Craftsman 19.2V stuff worked great, but some of the tools (drill, impact driver) I used all the time and hard enough that stepping up to the "pro brands" was worth it.

Milwaukee's got a LOT of tool options - more than Dewalt/Makita/Ridgid/Ryobi.
The charger also does both M12 and M18 batteries, so also getting M12 tools doesn't require another outlet/charger.

Tried/worked with both Mke and DeWalt tools. They're both good. But the selection of tools and charger kind of swayed me towards red.
We've got a couple DeWalt tools (older NiCd batts though) at work and they do work well.

Also, friends were looking at replacing some of their battery tools, we all kind of agreed on Milwaukee ... if i'm at a buddy's place, his batts will work on my tools, my batts will work on his tools... charger at his shop will charge my batteries... that makes things kind of nice.

Buy a label printer if you don't already have one and put your name/phone on all your tools/batteries.

>>1089135
i weigh 280 lbs. I just lean on the thing and buy cheap bits. Im not in a crazy hurry. im not going around lubbing my bits up like the are heirlooms

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>>1090034
>280 lbs

>>1090045
>>1090034
Damn dude, I'm 6'5" 240lbs and I feel like a lardass.

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>>1090048
Go PianoMode and Leave Humanity Behind™

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>>1089702
>his batts will work on my tools, my batts will work on his tools
not once

>>1089329
Found the guy always complaining about dewalt.
And it looks like you have good reason to

>>1090034
>>1090034
>>1090034
Cheap bits and no lube. You must enjoy throwing out dull bits constantly.
With just a little effort your life could be so much easier and more productive .

>>1090051
I don't know what that means Anon.

>>1090212
he means to embiggen yourself

>>1089318
>>1089305
>>1089294
>>1089093

Milwaukee Tool engineer here
Have you been to our HQ?
:^) you seem like you know your shit

>>1091146
>Tool engineer
How's your job? I always thought it would be interesting to design power tools, and I might want to do it when I finish my degree.

>>1091158
>implying there is an actual tool engineer on here

Engineering is nothing but red tape and politics
Planned obsolescence and cutting corners

>>1091146
id prefer making the trip to TTI's HQ in Hong Kong over boring old Milwaukee.

its funny since most of my knowledge just comes from walking around and reading the sides of boxes with some occasional online research on things i dont have the answer to. at this point i can probobly do our TTI rep's job better than her, at least she's cuter.

>>1091177
>Implying engineering isn't passion incarnate

>>1091158
Heya!

I'm an electrical (motor) engineer. I work on new product design, but there's a few other branches in the organization that works on more new/crazy stuff. The difference is they work on a lot of projects that never are fully realized, whereas I'm working on like 4 projects simultaneously which will release in the next year or two.

The company as a whole is really great to work for. My job itself is solid. I get some hands on experience when input testing both our tools in development and competitor tools to benchmark against. I've also learned a lot more about motor design principles through the job.

For you specifically, mechanical engineers seem to have the most involvement in any new power tool product so if you're an ME you'll be sitting good to get a job in the field.

I'm also a campus recruiter for the school I went to and I can tell you that at least in Milwaukee's case, we get the majority of our new-hire employees out of school from schools we recruit from. But don't let that deter you from trying to apply.

>>1091177
This is somewhat true, but we don't plan obsolescence.
I'd argue capitalism is more to blame for the idea of planned obsolescence and corner cutting across the board in engineering and consumer product manufacturing.

>>1091178
Luckily I'll be able to see both as I'm heading to China next year.
Anyway Milwaukee Tool is actually in Brookfield (a city right outside MKE) and while Brookfield is horribly boring, Milwaukee is actually a hella cool city. But to be fair it's definitely not everyone's cup of tea.

>>1091177
also I'd get my business cards just to shove it in your face but I honestly don't want to go out to my car right now since I just got off a conference call and I'm tired. Maybe I'll do it tomorrow if the thread is still up.

To anyone else: if you have any questions or suggestions/ideas let me know! I'd be happy to answer as best I can as long as I'm not in a position to breach NDA.

>>1091187
I'm an EE, so that's good to hear. Hopefully, I wouldn't be doing this straight out of school, but a few years after.

>>1091177
Structural engineer here
>Cutting corners

Yeah nah, unless you're talking about muh chamfers on concrete columns ;^)

I've been using a Ryobi cordless hammer drill and circular saw and a corded toutet for over 10 years now, moderate to heavy use. Theyve never failed yet and nothing has broken on them.

Beat bang for buck imho