So what's /diy/'s thoughts on underground houses?

>>1044168
I atleast understand why Shipping containers are desirable. But what possible benefit could you gain from having your house underground.

>>1044171
Oh fuck off.

Well insulated, but drainage and dampness are problems.

>>1044168
>underground houses

Unless you need to, there is no reason to underground

>>1044171
Very durable for whenever shit hits the fan and well insulated as mentioned.

>>1044168
underground houses has no windows so you cant look out and see what the weather is like etc

Once the headache and cost of building it is thru, underground houses save so much cashos. Insulation and by extension, energy costs become more or less negligible, specially if your careful I. The build to ensure the best means of energy procurement (wind / solar / hydro?).

Go for it dude... It'll be awesome.

Works fairly well for coober pedy

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t-they are pretty fun

>>1044274
Where is the structural support for that?

>>1044274
is that you, Mountain King?
Don't come here that often so I haven't seen an update in ages

>>1044276
I think you'll find it's probably the mountain it's hollowed out from.

>>1044274
Have you colour-coordinated the switchgear cabinets to the gennie?

>>1044274
tell me your secrets

have you harnessed the power of magma yet?
or used it to forge your furniture?

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>>1044276

>>1044279 is correct (tho there are a few rebar anchors drilled in the reinforce)

>Have you colour-coordinated the switchgear cabinets to the gennie?

It's their standard color, I kind of like it.

>>1044279
Been working on the old command room. on the third floor.
>pic


>>1044282
All further excavation has been halted due to fear of awaking the old ones.

>>1044284
So what's the sauce with you Mountain King? Fairly new to diy

>>1044294
Most anons refer to him as bunkerfag or bunkerbro.

He lives in Scandinavia and bought a decommissioned nuclear bunker from the government.

He comes and posts photos from time to time and anons line up to suck his cock for access to his bunker, which he does not grant.

Basically he's one of the people on /diy/ who has money, and skill, and actually does something. He's not a faggot and doesn't constantly make threads to brag about owning a bunker and he doesn't try to start some retarded ass 4chan city that autists on here constantly try to get him to.

>>1044171
Warm in winter, cool in summer, natural insulation, looks bitchin´.

>>1044313
>bunkerfag

/diy/ seems to have largely agreed that bunkerbro gets to be a bro, and is not a fag.

>>1044179

This is why you don't actually build underground. You build above ground and bury it.

This is my plan, build a huge reinforced Quonset Hut, cover in dirt and leave on side open.

>>1044171
>>1044180
>>1044192
Safe from tornado, safe from flood cause hill, safe from everything, insulated, can add skylights, mow your roof or solar...
Etc

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>>1044334
>hole in the ground
>safe from flood

>>1044340
Kekd this.

>>1044168
I know a guy that lives underground.

Dug trenches for walls. Poured a pad on top, skid loadered the dirt out, poured a pad for the floor, bulldozed the dirt level over the roof a few feet.

Beed there since the cold war i think? Hes in his fucking 90's. Been meaning to get pics.

>>1044192
My first apartment didnt have wondows. I hate the sun but fuck me. I dove out of bead at 6pm more than once for a 6am class. It fucks with ya.

Pluss, hang a monitor on the wall and have a security cam. Day/night detection. Or leave the front open.

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>>1044274
Lol, miningfag.

Im building an underground tunnel to my garage. Will do a build thread when done. Digging trenches and pouring a roof. Then digging out by hand or hopefully skidloadering it and making a roof somehow after.

Wife wants a storm celler. Kek, gotcha bitch. WE NEED TO BUILD A WALL.

Underground

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>>1044313
Omfg i just kekd my fucking lunch up.

This is the coolest shit i have ever heard.

Greeting Bunkerbro!

I am DickFarmer.

It's nice to meet you!

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>>1044321
I second this motion. All those I favor?

Note:all that didnt raise hand are cucked faggots that need to fockoff back to /pol...

>>1044323
I looked into that anon. Protip. If u cN get a large galvanozed one and put clean 2 or 3 inch rock around it. 1 foot or 2 on all sides. This will help it not rust and the rock will allow drainage.

>>1044340
It's fine if you are on a hill and dont have an open roof u stupid fucking faggot! Reeee...

Understand drainage, physics, and gravity newfag. Gtfo.

Open your fucking eyes.

Pick related...

>>1044386
>i know nothing about hydrodynamics

The post edition.

Underground shelters are more dangerous in terms of fire hazard. Less ventilation and few exits and those exits can be made easily inaccessible in an emergency.

For you survivalist types consider your neighbor dropping some oily rags and pouring a few gallons of fuel down your fresh air intake shaft when shtf.

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>>1044323
Hi bilbo

>>1044383
/b/ here
Fag is a term of endearment, like Aussies calling everyone cunt.

>>1044321
No, you're implying fag has a negative connotation.
All anons are fags. There is no exception. People who call people -bro and -chan are the worst type of fags.

Bunkerfag is and shall always remain a fag. He's a pretty chill fag though.

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>>1044395
real talk, how would you actually construct something like this and not have it collapse on you or leak like a sieve.

>>1044460
No, regular anons and the OP are always fags, but some posters may transcend faggotry and become bro's.

But they may also be fags.

>>1044390
Yeah i know, but bunkerbro seems less autistic than most. I just assume that he didnt want called a faggot every 4 minutes.

Fucket. Lets let him pic.

Anon u wanna be called Bunkerbro or Bunkerfag or Spaghetti or wut???

>>1044168
The general consensus seems to be to use shipping containers to build your underground rape dungeon.

Nasty air, lack of sunlight, need to run dehumidifiers 24/7

What's the point? You can build a house so well insulated that your AMD video card can turn the interior into an oven in the dead of winter.

SIPS panels, learn about them.

>>1044168
large diameter precast sewer pipe. designed to be buried underground and water tight.

Cool as hell in the supervillian lair kind of way.

Impractical nightmares in reality. Limited access, going to be out of the way of everything, maintenance issues, and of course cost are going to make life harder than it needs to be.

Got money to blow on things besides cocaine and hookers? Go for it.

>>1044478
>I am a minor.

You must be over 18 to use this website.

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if you live in a poor country and have no building codes

Wouldn't frost heaving eventually cave the walls in?

>>1044524
nah, you'd put your foundation below the frost line.

>>1044462
A lot of arches.
A lot of plastic/rubber products.
Fill materials that resist water wickage (clay).

>>1044168
Drainage nightmare in most of the western world, is the main reason we don't do it. Then if you get the drainage right, you need to maintain that drainage and still run the risk of being fucked in a flood.

Great idea in the desert, however.

>>1044334
>what are landslides?

>>1044334
Wait till you get a landslide, dumbass.

>>1044313
>skill
What skill does it take to buy a bunker?

>>1044697
Money-making skill. He's referring to the renovation jobs, though. Maybe you should lurk moar.

>>1044697
>What skill does it take to buy a bunker?

None at all.

Now, to renovate a bunker from an empty partially flooded bunker, that takes skill.

>>1044274
O shidd you that Swede I seen on /int/? I've talked to you a couple times, not since you had a couple Poles working for you and the concrete trucks were delivering. How's the leakage and ventilation going? I seem to remember a photo with a quad bike and a room that was partially flooded.

I only just started browsing /diy/ because floens changed the default board on clover.

>>1044383
How repressed are you that you can't use fag in the traditional way in which its used on fourchan?

I'd vote for bunker bro anyhow. Not that matters.

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>>1044726
>I only just started browsing /diy/ because floens changed the default board on clover.

which explains a few things, actually.
>NOT AGAIN - WHERE DOES THIS CUNT LIVE, I'LL GIVE HIM FUCKING 'floens' ALRIGHT, SHITTING UP /diy/ WITH LITERAL GOOD_FOR_FUCKALL FUCKWITS. 'floens' YOU CUNT, LAST WARNING - DEFAULT TO /mlp/ OR SOME _other_ SHIT ALREADY, OR i'LL HUNT U DOWN. WORSE THAN FUCKING /b/ IN ERE.

>>1044767
>first they said it was "summer" but I wasn't summer, so I didn't speak up
>then they said it was ebaum but I wasn't from ebaum's world, so I didn't speak up
>then they said it was "newfags" but I wasn't a newfag, so I didn't speak up
>then they said it was diggers but I wasn't a digger, so I didn't speak up
>then they said it was "ledditors" but I wasn't from /r/4chan, so I didn't speak up
>then they said it was shitposters but I wasn't Australian, so I didn't speak up
>then they said it was clover users but I wasn't on my phone, so I didn't speak up
>but then I realised I was just a colossal faggot with the strap of my rose tinted goggles cutting off the circulation to my brain, but by that time, there was nobody left to speak for me
-ancient Nazi proverb

>>1044313
>bought a decommissioned nuclear bunker from the government.


He bought the sister bunker to the pictured one, too. It's like a 2 hour drive away, and completely filled with scrap concrete and the entrance is buried.

Gee Bunkerbro, your government lets you have TWO bunkers?!!

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>>1044801
Still waiting for the bureaucrats to approve the sale, should get their answer sometime mid September.

>Gee Bunkerbro, your government lets you have TWO bunkers?!!

Well, you can have one as well, this one is on auction right now. It's pretty small as it was a shelter for the local municipal politicians. But for a home 800m2 is decent.

http://beskrivning.fasad.eu/objekt/737333/bildlista.html#image_5241057

Currently at $170k (price kind of high for its size).

>>1044865
>http://beskrivning.fasad.eu/objekt/737333/bildlista.html#image_5241057

>mfw I find myself wanting to buy a decommissioned nuclear bunker.

Thanks a bunch, anon.

>>1044865
>1,500,000
>$225,000

Wish I had the money.

>>1044393
>building your underground house with flammable materials

>>1044885
The concern is not that your bunker would burst into flame, at least not as much a concern as replacing your fresh air with choking black smoke and fumes. Second concern is probably parts of your vent system catching fire and increasing the heat of the whole thing by drawing air through it. I guess maybe you are dead or stumbling around in the smoke with a respirator before there are any other problems?

>>1044865

Can you buy it for a symbolic sum then I'll buy it off you for double that?

>>1044478
MODS MOODS MODS MOODS MODS MOODS MOOOOOOOOOOODS

>>1044478
Reported

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>>1044502
Nigga how the fuck you gonna put furniture in a pipe

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not building your non underground bulletproof bunker

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>>1044911
thoughtfully.

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>>1044911

>>1044393
>having a neighbor
You already fucked up.

>>1044168
And when the paranoa hits you can cover the parabola in tin foil and wait for the alien overlords to make contact.

what's drainage and why is it bad and what's it hard for an underground house

Neighbor has a shallow well (like from the movies, little brick thing that you drop a bucket down into).
Last I checked it, when it was the middle of the dry season, water was only 8-10 feet down.
I have a pond that's fed by 2 springs.
I have another seasonal pond that's filled up just from rain water that soaks into the mountain side then follows the bedrock and seeps out.

Building underground is very dependent on location.
Louisiana can't even keep normal houses from flooding....

>>1045183
water is gonna fall on your house from the sky so its gotta hve somewhere to go that isnt into your breakfast

it could be solved by making your ceiling out of something waterproof and rounded, or by having grating in the floor that leads downward to some kind of outlet

>>1044522


This is a traditional Chinese building style.

>>1044907
Lol, u fuck i meant miner? Lol, dont b&hammer me oh great mods

>>1044168

I was actually thinking about this.

I found a very large patch of land for sale at an exceptionally low price, but it doesn't have building permits.

I'm trying to figure out how stealth I could make an underground house so that the state doesn't notice me building on it anyway.


>t. Italian

>>1046071
Doooo eeeet.
You could also try building with cob, then having a green roof with hella overhangs to blend in with the area.

>>1046079

Biggest problem would be utilities.

I mean I could get away with dumping sewage at trailer parks and picking up water with 1000l tanks, but electricity is a problem.

Generators are super expensive to run and a field of solar panels in the middle of some woods would stand out like a fucking lighthouse in the night to anyone looking from above...

Although I guess I could park an actual trailer on top of the underground house as a cover.

I've thought to it over the years, and basically what you first need to figure out is how much $ you're Willing to throw.
my idea isn't cheap at all. But it will last over two lifetimes (depending on the ground) . Too bad there isn't a chat menu on here. What I would do is basically make a big concrete box and after it's complete, I would start putting heavy I bars inside and build the internal frame. From there everything will be wood.
Before you start you see to figure plumbing (or if you just plan to pump everything in and out).
My PERSONAL plan would have two large long floors, topped by four short 20'×30' floors (for living) .
There would be separate underground structure (3 floors) that would house electrical and maintenance like generators,water filtration and heaters, to supply the main structure. They should be separated by 8-12 feet ,that way if a pump breaks or something, you are still safe where you live, plus the area between will be a maintenance zone so people can walk and breathe there to fix any problem. Like I said, I took years of thinking about the "what if I could afford to do anything " this living quarters cook sustain possibly 12 people without overcrowding, but for real EMERGENCY you could take about half of 1 of the bottom long floors ,a d out maybe 50 people in there. The two long floors are storage for food medical, OR room, and everything else, including a small theatre type room to pass the time with movies. The idea is that you DON'T know when it will be safe to come out.

>>1046071
Can you get away with "temporary structures" without a building permit? Get one of those massive surplus army tents for cover and temporary shelter, and excavate within it or something like that. Of course if you're excavating any reasonably sized volume, you're going to have a fuck ton of debris to dispose of.

>>1046071
I've always had similar ideas, but it's quite costly anyway, in particular here in Italy, I guess you know. The place should be safe against earthquakes, no floodings, not a lot of people around that ask questions..
A shame we don't have many military bunkers on sale.

>>1044478
>I am a minor

nigga now my sides are underground are you fucking happy

>>1044936
You know what would be cool? Like what if you tapped a side of a mountain and then screwed in a large diameter hollow threaded pipe in as reinforcement. Then you can live underground but not worry about flooding.

>>1044168
seems like a hassle

I just want to live in the side of a volcano and have a never ending supply of molten ore to refine steel, and gems, and other hard materials

on the side of a volcano near a sea, or river, on a western, i think western is right, slope so I can have some good farmland.

that volcanic soil for high yeild crops.
use of cold stone, and hot magma flows to make a natural heating and cooling system.

endless supply of molten to make make chairs, dinner plates, and other various accessories needed for daily living.

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>>1044334
>Earthquake happens
>Be in it's epicenter

>>1046217
Interesting. Do you have any schematics?

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>>1046317

>>1046232

That's not a bad idea actually. Yes, you can get away with temporary structures, but I'm not sure a military style tent would be considered temporary.
The law is set up so that even if the structure is temporary in nature, if you leave it there forever (or even show the intention to do that, such as building a wooden ladder in front of your trailer door) it is considered permanent anyway.

Disposing of the debris would be very easy if you have some tree terrain, you just dump it in between the trees all around the place.
10cm*30m*30m = you've disposed of 90 cubic meters of debris already and nobody could possibly ever notice.


>>1046238

I sometimes look at land for sale on the internet and I can never find anything bigger than 2 hectares and at ludicrous costs (15-20K euros).

>land for sale [any american state]
>first result is a 40 hectare parcel on sale for 40K usd

every
single
time

Yeah. it sucks to be Italian if you want more than 100 square meters of personal space.

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>>1046281
As a miner, yes... it does get lonely underground. FRIIIIIEND!

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>>1046317
Build a foundryband start melting down beer cans like i did anon.

Quite a large pain in the ass still but it saves u figiting the dwarves in middle earch for fucking magma flows. Lol

>>1044462
I would tell you. But then I'd have to kill you...

>>1046398
>I sometimes look at land for sale on the internet and I can never find anything bigger than 2 hectares and at ludicrous costs (15-20K euros).
>>land for sale [any american state]
>>first result is a 40 hectare parcel on sale for 40K usd
>every
>single
>time
>Yeah. it sucks to be Italian if you want more than 100 square meters of personal space.
lol reminds me of a guy I knew in undergrad. Bought 3 acres with a shitty cabin in Kentucky I think, off of craigslist for like $5k on a whim. Then quit school and moved there.

>>1046435
>complaining about a hobby farm costing 20k
plots of land, 3 hours drive from hobart are selling for millions in tasmania. unless you want to grow wheat 8 hours from the nearest petrol station land always costs this much in australia. even houses an hour from the nearest workplace cost half a mil. lets open up to chinese investors they said. free citizenship for your whole family if you buy a house they said. absolutely disgusting.

>>1046435
>lol reminds me of a guy I knew in undergrad. Bought 3 acres with a shitty cabin in Kentucky I think, off of craigslist for like $5k on a whim. Then quit school and moved there.


Literally living the dream.

>>1046398
Another problem is, here in Italy it's difficult to find some flat terrain that's not like a damn swamp. I've got quite a bit myself, and good luck doing anything there but agriculture.

>>1044886
Just keep EEBDs around. I'm sure you can pick them up from surplus stores. But yeah, toxic gasses are definitely a concern in a space like that. Just read about how the navy handles that on ships and emulate it. Things like have a backup intake and quick methods to switch over in case of a casualty, have at least 2 escape routes from every space, have fire/gas/flooding containment methods (like watertight fittings you can set boundaries with) and have a crew that's all trained to recover from these casualtie- well, I guess it's probably going to get pretty expensive, but still. Having an alternate source of intake air that's relatively hidden is probably the best method for some psychopath that lives alone underground, with an emergency supply of air on hand. SCBAs are pretty expensive, but the bottles are light(er than scuba gear) and give you up to 45 minutes of breathable air. You can take your emergency escape tunnel to your backup weapons cache and come fuck up whoever is farting in your air, then fix at your leisure.

>>1044168
Enjoy rickets, dumbass

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>>1046283
you do realize that corrugated pipes aren't designed to be "screwed in" right? Especially not into a mountain side that's probably riddled with volkswagon sized boulders.

Best bet is to excavate and bury them.

>>1046737
Yes, of course, which is why I specified, "large diameter hollow threaded pipe" instead of corrugated pipe. Although hollow pipe is redundant.

>>1046737
>VW sized boulders
I wonder if you could use some sort of nigrigged ultrasound emitter/detector as a sort of ground radar to avoid these boulders when positioninh

>>1046702

Yeah, I live in Turin and the only flat terrain you can find for a somewhat reasonable price is in the full heart of Pianura Padana, which means it's by definition terrible.

Extremely humid, super hot in the summer, fuckloads of mosquitoes, actually very cold in winter.
Cold + high humidity is also guaranteed to get you mold formation eventually, unless you keep your heating at 25° or something.

I'd much rather buy slopy terrain in the mountains than flat terrain in the plains.

>>1046909
I live in Brescia, mate

>>1046909
Built house on steel beams potted in drilled holes or in Sonotubes in earth. Use climate control to deal with humidity. It's a real case for an intelligently fabricated container or other modernist house with appropriate insulation. Slope is no problem. Anchor deep enough to stay put and avoid loose rock above you for obvious reasons

Ignore containerthreads here and ignore the shills on Youtube. The only grownups who deal with containers are military and industrial users compared to which everyone else (even me with my plain High Cube x 2 shop) is a piece of grabasstic amphibian shit. Industrial and .mil fabricators like Sea Box (visit their site for ideas) are god tier at custom fab, and you can copy a lot of their work DIY.

Steel is nice to work with and Turkish steel should be reasonable. Large scrap steel beams and other sections are easy to torch or plasma cut and modify. Metal is a breeze to build with. There are plenty of corrosion coating (if it isn't industrial, it's garbage which will fail and quadruple your work) options and ways to insulate effectively.

>>1044168

How perfect would you have to design it to avoid water fucking it up as it drains through the dirt?

>>1047082
You'd have to design and seal it inside and out.

Find how industrial reinforced concrete tanks etc are built, then copy that. Find how military bunkers and hardened shelters are built, then copy that. There is nothing new to be learned until you are firmly grounded in what works.

Bring a lot of money. Contact precast concrete contractors to see if you can integrate any of their wide variety of shapes into your design.

Bring money. Yearn to not bring money. Yearn for cheapness. Yearn until you eventually take the time to cure your ignorance or give up.

Bring money.

>>1047090
You are a bad negative person. I'll bury shipping containers sealed with RTV to make my Hobbit hole rape dungeon.

>>1044865
>http://beskrivning.fasad.eu/objekt/737333/bildlista.html#image_5241057
>Currently at $170k (price kind of high for its size).
Converting the current bid to GBP comes out above £300,000, there are shitty apartments in London which cost more than that.

I want a fucking bunker, I wouldn't even mind living in Sweden.

>>1047102
>there are shitty apartments in London which cost more than that.

How do people put up with this shit?

I mean, here I make 20k euros/year after taxes, and paid less than 50K for my flat including all taxes and costs. Mine was a very good deal, but still it's very easy to get a decent flat for less than 70k.

Cost of living is about 700€/month not including mortgage so let's deduct 8400 from my pay, that's 11K.

House paid off in 5 years.

To pay off a 350K house in 5 years I'd need to earn over 80K after taxes.

I seriously doubt your average junior programmer earns 80K in london.

Guise...$50 and Up Underground House Book is a thing. I managed to find a PDF of it a while back. If I wasn't on mobile I'd start posting pages.
Still, just look it up. Mike Oehler (ayy-lerr) is the author

>>1047156
>How do people put up with this shit?
No choice really

>Ridiculous housing market prices
>Housing shortage
>Incredibly high cost of living
>5% Total property value deposit required

Unless you're rich or get a lucky inheritance, fucking no one can afford/save for the dosh upfront to pay off the deposit, when most people could easily afford the mortgage repayments.

It's shitty and retarded, so you get stuck renting which is even more expensive meaning less savings. It's incredibly cheaper to own a home, but has a giant barrier of entry.

>>1047431

But why do people keep moving to London? That's my point.

If my house went for 300K I would never live in this city.

Surely there are other cities in the UK.

>>1044379
>>1044379
>woke up at 6 pm thinking it was 6am

what the fuck kind of sleeping patterns do you have?

>>1046071
For a stealth underground shelter I always think of those little stand alone brick or metal windowless telecommunication shacks. They're always surrounded by fences. If nobody knew you and you drove a generic white pick up nobody would ever know its not actually a commerically owned utilities shack.

>>1044937
Visions of someone in middle of night coming over and pulling out a few rocks and rolling away someone's home

If it works for you, and you can build a living out of it go for it. Save some money and be happy.

It may not be conventional but if it's a healthy living situation then there's absolutely nothing wrong with it, just don't start sniffing your farts.

>>1046317
How feasible is this and what are the chances I will die from a sudden. lava eruption

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>>1046762
Sounds like you are talking about using a tunnel boring machine to construct an interior space, witch is fully viable, but entirely fucking retarded and 100x COST WASTEFUL compared to just burying shit on flat land.

>>1047762
You are clearly a child, because >>1046317 is obviously a minecraft player that doesn't doesn't understand the difference between reality and minecraft physics.You get double retard points for not realizing that every sentence that anon said and you believed.

>>1047769
so you're saying it's not feasible

>>1047677
I think I actually saw that in a cartoon once...

>>1047766
>>1044168
every underground house you've ever seen is actually just a normal house with a greenscape roof blended into the lawn.

sure there are exceptions like bunker bro. but all the shit you see on pinterest or wherever you've been inspired to bury shipping containers is just an illusion.

>>1044323
>This is my plan, build a huge reinforced Quonset Hut, cover in dirt and leave on side open.

Forget a "Quonset hut" in the conventional sense but DO use that concept as a spall liner then pour concrete over it. Seal the concrete then bury it.

That's the way hardened aircraft shelters (HAS) are built, minus the burial and it's quite efficient.

You can buy steel rail car hulls and use them for burial too. Farmers use them for very heavy duty culverts.

IThere is nothing new to invent. Learn what works, adjust it to your needs and have fun in your new home. Industry has solved everything. Copy success.

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>>1044383
Bunkerbro is truly a bro and posts useful info based on proven experience.

Not a faggot.

>>1044886
Copy military bunkers and don't use flammable materials.

All concerns in bunkering have been solved. Copy success.

Not cheap though. I'd happily live in a bunker but it's kind of useless for me and my dual shipping container shop is ample storm shelter for my region.

>>1044911
>Nigga how the fuck you gonna put furniture in a pipe

Floor the pipe and use the section below the floor to ensure drainage will always be taken care of. Easy shit. Solved a very long time ago in submarines and ships.

>>1046071
>I found a very large patch of land for sale at an exceptionally low price, but it doesn't have building permits.

Can you apply for a variance to the appropriate agency? What REASON is given for no permits? Can you engineer around the problem?

Not every problem has a technical solution. Some are legal.

>>1046088
You can use a composting toilet for the sewage.

>>1046238
>The place should be safe against earthquakes

Build aboveground with steel. Burial is an overly expensive meme.

>>1047666
>For a stealth underground shelter I always think of those little stand alone brick or metal windowless telecommunication shacks. They're always surrounded by fences. If nobody knew you and you drove a generic white pick up nobody would ever know its not actually a commerically owned utilities shack.

Not a bad idea but I'd skip the underground part since it will look the same inside, and buy a larger precast reinforced concrete shelter of the type you describe. You can also buy panels and play "adult concrete erector set".

Good thinking on your part. Do more research on precast concrete shapes and structures. I think you'll enjoy it.

>>1044217

With modern techniques heating cost can be reduced to next to nothing. AC costs can be mostly removed by digging air intake pipes underground.

>>1047766
It's not really boring so much as tapping. The point was not burying shit on flat land since that's lame plus flooding is bad.

>>1044334
Also instead of hard thug criminals entering in to steal your shit you only need to care about fat autists trying to raid your dungeon.

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Semi-related.
I am playing with the idea of a basement house with a greenhouse on top of it. The greenhouse would not need to be nearly as tall as with a so called 'nature house'(see link), while also getting some geothermal benefit. You could have some skylights if the "basement windows" are not enough.

Fresh air intake comes from buried pipes that pre-heats/cools it depending on the season, blows it into the basement, it then rises to the greenhouse above and escapes through the top of the greenhouse. The naturally warmer air of the greenhouse might be enough to pull fresh air from the intake pipes without added energy.

Tell me why this is a bad idea, DIY.

https://youtu.be/30ghnDOFbNQ

>>1048551

water and drainage around the house, mostly. Esp. if you're going to be watering plants above it most of the year

>>1048595
No more of a problem than a conventional house with a basement, no?
The plats could be potted.

>>1044168
Safe from nukes but not really

>living in a bunker would be a lot of fun
>living on my own ship would be also fun
>also have considered innavan
I should just buy a sub pen and park a old cargo ship with a van on deck