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>>7553301
I'm way less productive when locked. I end up looking at porn a lot more when I should be doing other stuff

I've gone two weeks so far. What the fuck am I doing on /d/.

>>7553301

For me it ruined my productivity and gains

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>>7553365
>I end up looking at porn a lot more when I should be doing other stuff

I think you are suppose to also stop looking at porn.

After reading about what the average person does on nofap, I have to wonder how much of the results has nothing to do with porn.

It seems that most do additional forms of self improvement, like eating better and exercise with the new freed time. Both of those would improve health.

Other videos have made comments in passing about how the brain doesn't crave sex so much as it craves the novelty of sex and that it ultimately gets accustomed to seeing several sex partners like looking at many different images on a chan or cycling through actresses on pornhub.

I've heard similar things on World of Warcraft and other games being addictive because they increment novelty.

So it may not be the porn at all that is bad for the brain, but the magnitude of variances of porn online. It isn't the big breasted moonatour girl, its wanting to see her pregnant, then futa, then inflated, then transformed, then giant, then lolli, etc. The brain ends up board with real life where there is so little variation in the same spand of time.

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>>7553670

All this stuff is surrounded in bro-science, really. At least for me, if I wanna get something done and not have to worry about libido getting in the way of my productivity, I just crank one out in the most boring way possible and I'm good for a day.

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>>7553935

yeah, its pretty bro-y.

Maybe the real problem for these guys is internet addiction/habit? Most habits have triggers and then you go on autopilot. Maybe the porn is the trigger.

So like, they get home, get a bit horny, go online to look at porn, then jack off, then check reddit, then facebook, then email. At that point, they've recharged, the cycle starts over and so on and so forth.

It is more likely that by stopping the internet porn, they are just breaking the cycle of their internet addiction and then being productive. It isn't the jacking off, but the mindless web surfing.

Anyway, I'm thinking about giving it a shot. At the very least, I should have some good wet dreams or a really good cum after I've went awhile.

I don't think there's any real negative to starting, but personally I don't think there's any gain either.

I'm approaching three continuous months now of abstaining and I honestly notice very little difference if any.

I haven't gotten more productive, happier, hornier, or anything else that I can pick up on.

>>7554398
>three continuous months
maybe you just got used to

>>7555084

That doesn't really explain how I'd never felt any differences in the time leading up to now either

I did it a couple of times and got some good results. The furthest I've ever lasted was like 12 days if I recall before relapsing. Still trying to fight it with little effort.

>>7553375
teasing yourself

I've already surrendered to the fact that I'll never have a girlfriend due to my crippling anxiety that keeps me inside my apartment everyday of the year and I'll most likely die around the age of 40 since I don't really eat healthy let alone exercise so what good does it do me if I just stop fapping for no discernable reason?

Not that anyone really cares but that's just how I feel.

>>7555238
Don't see why you should give up so easily.

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>>7555238
Its really not good for you to jerk off every day

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>>7553943
From my experience there is a higher chance of going on autopilot when i'm stressed or just tired. There is also a higher chance of seeing everything is bad light and getting angry when i'm in stressed condition.

And the thing is that after the orgasm both brain and the body are in stress. It takes couple of days to recover.

Being just horny for a day is less stresful than masturbating and having to go trough the recovery period.

To answer the OP question:

Yes, i am more productive when i'm masturbating once a week or once every two weeks. But it's a long road to get used to that kind of masturbating schedule, especially if you're used to doing it every day or more. But slowly you can get there.

For some reason, even though I browse /d/ and enjoy getting aroused over the stuff here, I've never actually fapped in my 20 years of living. Just never seemed like something worth doing, not that it isn't inconvenient anyway in my current living environment. Not really sure what effects incorporating it into my life would have anyway, so far I haven't been sexually frustrated or feeling "low T" or whatever. Am I just missing out?

>>7556127
First of all
Holy fucking shit are you a monk?
Second
Why the fuck would you feel low t NOT fapping?

>>7555238
Don't give up on life just yet. You seem depressed. I am still hella young and already found 2 girls online whom I loved and which loved me (currently in relationship with 2. one, I fucked the first one up) which I am saying just to show you that you don't have to go outside to meet a girl. Also, for your own sake, try to get up and do a bit of exercise. It doesn't need to be much, the main goal is to make you feel like you DID something to help your mental state. Also give healthier/less food a try, depending on what is your problem.

Good luck my man.

>>7553301
woowoo stuff made up by a christcuck

Okay so I tried it. It works for me, but I'm a 4-7 faps a day kind of guy.
The thirst gets palpable to those around me. But its not so hard to find a girl in estres, where your hormones will make the decision for her.

At the same time porn is a much bigger time and sanity suck. I've not beat it yet.

That said, its always interesting to mess with your hormones.

Keep cellphones away from your balls for an enhanced effects.

>>7553935
it's grounded in reality actually. While nofap as a thing might be iffy, it has it's bases in reality.

Porn addiction IS a thing. it's not that different from a drug addiction. You get aroused by looking at some nudes or some hentai. You are aroused and so you masturbate. When you orgasm, that releases dopamine in the brain. That's what makes you feel good.

now what do you suppose would happen if you masturbated too frequently? Eventually, what you were looking at gets old and no longer does it for you. So you look for something new. But over time, that plain stuff doesnt quite do it for you even when it's new anymore, so you look for something different.

and so on, it escalates, and you get increasingly more degenerate and into harder fetishes.

but that aside, when youve masturbated too often for too long, eventually, it becomes an actual addiction. Sure, you rub one out and say "ok, I wont masturbate again for a logn time! time to space myself out! make em count more!" and maybe for a week, it works. but week 2 comes by and unless you are distracted or kept busy, you may notice it a bit harder to keep up.

And the longer you go, the harder it gets to resist the urge to masturbate. Until eventually you relapse and give in. It's become an addiction. your brain craves that release of dopamine. It's no different than ajunkie wanting his next fix to shoot up his arm

>>7556127
Oh cool, I'm not the only one. Though, I grew up religiously without knowing about it. Now, even without the religious prohibitions, I still don't feel a need and spend my time elsewise. 28 by the way.

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>>7556403
I don't think a porn addiction would lead you down the path of fetishism.
Addiction as seen as mental health would be something that interferes with normal life.
So like if you jerked off in public because you needed that release you'd probably be addicted but someone that rubs one out at the end of the night might not.
There are many porn & sex addicts that have perfectly vanilla tastes.

>>7556422
I never said it was a given, but it's definitely a possibility.

of course the other part of the equation is how easily accessible porn is, and by extension, different kinds of porn, including fetish stuff, which means it's easy to fall down the rabbit hole

Tried it twice myself for 3 months both times last year and this year and it basically resets all fetishes of mine to the starting point and takes me about 1 month to go back to this site after fapping again. Totally recommended at least once but to be honest it doesn't increase productivity it just makes you a bit more energetic and not even that much energetic.

>>7556435
I'm not sure if fetishism can ever be blamed on addiction though.
Most of the BDSM community may have found out about their fetish through porn but I don't think the porn GAVE them the fetish.
I think fetishes are more personal. They are born more out of our normal lives, behaviors, and personalities, than just our sexual experiences.

>>7556418
Same here. Did about 20 years of no fap first because religion but did porn from about age 14 to 20. I do fap now but it's more of just something to do.

>>7556403
Addiction my ass. Cite reputable sources or shut up.

Your analogy is as pointless as saying that reading the same book forever until you die is going to be boring. It ignores the fact that there is music, other books, and generally many more things to do. It "predicts" a situation that will never exist, out of the assumption that all other variables will remain invariant, without a flick of understanding on the relationship of those variables between themselves, or the negative feedbacks that every organism has in order to not be destroyed the moment something unexpected shows up and throws it off a bit. In a word, your position is a poor assessment of the situation. People don't get "more and more" addicted to porn/sex/fapping without limit. You stop eventually because it becomes boring, even after you have travelled to all fetish towns in sight and back. Or are the emergency rooms around the world filled everyday with acute cases of 18-35 males with "frayed palm syndrome"? Get real.

>>7556435
>definitely a possibility
That's what all nut jobs believing in pseudoscience say "you can't prove it's impossible!". I don't have to prove that it's impossible, just unlikely enough that many other outcomes happen before those pulled by the hairs scenarios. It's you who have fallen down the rabbit hole of picking an implausible stupidity and believing it's more likely than what's happening everyday.

NoFap doesn't work for me, I naturally have a muscular stocky build, if I don't release I tend to get hyper and restless. Other times I'm just a gooner edging but not distracted at all just horny. Infact I've realized that I can increase my horniness by ejaculating just once in two weeks. Then I turn full primal, I can tell girls around me sense my sexuality. And inspite of all this I haven't had tons of sex it's cause I ain't interested right know.
Like Tony Montana says "first you get the money, when you get money, you get the power, when you get the power, then you get the woman"
Astrofags will know I'm a super scorpio and capricorn.

>>7553301
waste of time.

sexuality is hardwired into us, so there's no stopping the drive barring chemical and physical restraints. and imo its a good thing to have a sex drive: sexual transmutation is a real thing, and the free energy and motivation from chasing after your sexual dragons tends to bleed over into other pursuits if you regulate yourself and don't fall into brash hedonism to sate the libido.

noporn > nofap > sex > sex with a loving partner. that's how this shit works.

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i use fapping to reward myself instead of eating junk food. i'm 32 and i'm obese and have high blood pressure. if i'm gonna have a stroke, i'd rather it be to lamias than taco bell.

but my hormones might be weird. jacking off more than 1-2 times a week seems like a chore.

i don't fap unless i'm abiding by my values and mission in life. i have a list of those things if someone wants to see...

I haven't tried nofap but I do know that this morning when I woke up with a semi and checked my Instagram and seen some bitches and some girls I know, had I just got up then and went for my workout it would have been a lot harder of a workout. Instead I fapped and lay in bed for another hour lazy as FUCK. So limiting my faps to once before sleeping to help me sleep and as a congratulations for a hard day of avoiding degeneracy is what I try and adhere to. Or at least what I find results with when I do adhere to it. I lack the will to not fap at all though. I'll work up the will to at least try one of these days

A cock cage wouldn't help though - I think the entire principle of not fapping to porn is intended to boost your testosterone by forcing you to work out and dress well and improve mentally in order to fuck girls or get fucked or whatever your goal is sexually. So using a cage or still looking at porn wouldn't help you boost anything in that regard

>>7557111
And by the way, no fap is meant to encourage you to actually go out and get your rocks off IRL instead of doing it instantly without working for it. If you're a fat fuck who is still going to stay indoors and has no willingness to improve socially then not fapping won't provide you with anything at all. But for some, looking at a sexy girl knowing you can't fap and you have to work hard to improve your appeal and masculinity to get that pussy and ass is EXTREMELY MOTIVATING, instead of looking at her and thinking something like "this bitch is so superior I will just go fap to cuck porn"

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>>7553301
I'm a guy locked in a full chastity belt right now (testing it out) and I can confirm I'm distracted as fuck. No way is this thing improving concentration..

>>7556447
>I'm not sure if fetishism can ever be blamed on addiction though.

This. I had most of mine before porn or even masturbation.

I thought fully pregnant women were interesting at like 6 or 7. Same for large breasts. Same for gender swap.

>>7557323
>I'm a guy locked in a full chastity belt right now (testing it out) and I can confirm I'm distracted as fuck. No way is this thing improving concentration..

dude, its rubbing on your junk. WHY would it work?

>>7557114
not that anon but that makes sense. I might actually give it a chance once I get dating then. It def seems like an interesting idea

>>7553301
Fapping less could probably help some people be more productive, focused, or satisfied.

But nofap usually goes way further than that, into stupid pseudoscience and fundamentalist Christian levels of pants on head retardation. Masturbation is nothing to feel bad about, and trying to completely stop is as big a waste of energy as doing it constantly.

>>7556127

Don't do it.
I got to 22 without ever fapping, I did it once and now I do it habitually. I regret it.

>>7557323
I guess that's because even if you wanted, you won't be able to do it. true liberation comes when you free yourself of desire. chastity belt is just a physical constraint.

>>7555238
do some pushups

I'm at 10 days now and I feel much better than I did at 1. When I watch porn I binge, 6 + hour sessions. My balls are swollen as fuck and then I squirt hugeloads and collapse on my bed.

NoFap is also great if you want to resensitize your neural pathways and then binge and have a huge nut. Once a week or once a month is preferable for metabolic effects in my experience.

You crank the testosterone out.

Help keep me locked up a little longer. Please?

https://www.emlalock.com/?page=friend&id=gdj78nd4mrchw7wnhqmx

>>7557110
Don't think it's that weird. I also heard that obesity lowers your sex drive, so that could be a factor.

>>7559058
Hope you have a max time set, I saw someone go from a week to 6 years in a matter of days doing that lol

The first three-to-five days I go without cumming I'm generally in that "more focused, productive" state that nofappers claim to want. However, on the last day I go from thirsty to angry, and I feel like I'm on the edge of a fight all the time.

Blow my load = clear my head.

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Well, I've been taking that 50 mg of Zinc a day for a few days now, and I really can't tell the results because of this chastity cage I've been wearing. I really don't know if my cum load has increased at all.

Also, as I post this, I'm experiencing one of the worst cases of diarrhea I've had in a while, and I suspect the Zinc gave it to me.
Anybody have any other advice for how to increase cum load?

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I did nofap for a month some years ago. It was the most boring month I remember. If you don't have anything "productive" to do, or lack the extra discipline to do the "productive" thing, you just end up with nothing to do in the time you used to fap in previously. Chastity play with a keyholder is entirely another thing though. That I've done for over a year and don't plan on stopping.

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>>7559058
Um, you have a limit, right? Last guy on here got three years.

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>>7559058
Yay.

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>>7559058
If that's true, then I shudder to think how obsessed I'll be with sex once I lose some weight.

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>60:22

C'mon, guys! Let's get that ratio back up, unlike your dicks!

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>>7553301
>>7553301

I don't understand. I've been wearing a chastity device for about 4-5 days now, and I just got this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072QKXQH8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
in today.

I tried to fuck myself with it, but it was very difficult. My ass was stinging the whole time, and though my dick was dribbling, I didn't experience the Earth-shattering prostate orgasm I was promised.

What'd I do wrong?

>>7553301
>thoughts on nofap?
Retarded and pointless.

>I've heard it that it increases productivity
False.

Is this thread already dead?

>>7560322
Can't start off with a 10 incher man.

Take a nice hot shower, relax. Touch yourself for like a half hour before anything just pay with your nipples and shit. Then roll onto your side and start putting things in your butt slowly. Don't fuck your self like an animal just feel around and find your spot.

>>7560322
it hurts because you didn't use much lube, lube is important and you gotta relax, slowly start with one finger then two relax, lube then two fingers, then when you get lose then you can start putting up the big objects. Don't expect the earth shattering orgasm on your first try, you gotta work with it.

>>7553301

(op) here. I'm on day 5 and have noticed no real change.

About the only thing that has changed is that I go to bed sooner. You would think that would make me more productive or have more enginery but it has not.

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>>7555452
>>7555453
Just gonna respond to this here since a new chastity thread has not been made yet. Hopefully you see this.

>How often does your partner clean and perform hygiene on you?
About weekly, as well as whenever it is necessary.

>What do you do about erections when trying to cage?
That happened the very first time I put on chastity. It has not happened since, so really I don't know because it's not a problem I have.

>Have you noticed any difficulty getting erections when invaded after long periods in chastity?
Not really.

Since I know you're going to like hearing this, for cleaning my bf puts a buttplug in me so that I will have an erection (making me easier to clean). It's the only time I get to have an erection when uncaged. He's careful to make sure I don't get much stimulation.

>Your posts in this thread have finally convinced me to pursue a life like this
Do it! Honestly the clothing is my favorite part.

>I've masturbated 5 times in the last 24 hours to your posts and the thought that I won't be able to do so any more gets me hard again every time.
There's no reason to stop masturbating! Just find a dildo you really like.

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>>7560322
There are several mistakes that you made.

>I tried to fuck myself with it
This is the first. You are not the dildo. You are the thing that the dildo is fucking. Don't forget what that means.

When you start off with anal play, your instinct will be to focus on manipulating the dildo. Instead, focus on your own body and how it reacts to the object that is invading you.

>My ass was stinging the whole time
Use more lube.

>and though my dick was dribbling, I didn't experience the Earth-shattering prostate orgasm I was promised
Whoever promised you an earth-shattering prostate orgasm every time you fucked your ass is a fucking liar. Learning to cum anally from masturbation takes most people months, even over a year. Even then, you will not be able to cum every time.

If you are focused on trying to achieve prostate orgasm, you will never achieve it, because when you are the thing that is being fucked, that is just not what sex means anymore.

Forget about orgasm. Focus on how it feels to be fucked. Orgasm is not the goal, but rather a pleasurable side effect that you will sometimes experience if you are lucky.

anal play isn't really about the asshole either.

It is more about finding the prostate and pressing and messaging it just right.

So even though you may like the look of massive cocks, something longer and slender may actually be better.

In some ways that should be obvious, and yet there is a lot of misinformation out there in porn and hentai. They tend to focus on large insertions.

>>7560419
What happened to me is that I started to fap less the busier I get, but that is pretty much the complete opposite. No fap challenge hasn't done anything for me except for a massive load of cum as soon as I started again.

>>7556127
I never fapped till 18, then I decided that I should give it a try as everyone says that it feels nice... now for 3 years I fap 1-4 times a day. Don't start it... ever.

>>7559863
Dat foot tho.

live

No fap is wonderful.


Your cum loads are 30% cerebral spinal fluid. That fluid is so precious no matter hos fucked up you are the doctors RARELY ever take samples of it because it is so hard for our bodies to make.

>>7561611
>Your cum loads are 30% cerebral spinal fluid. That fluid is so precious no matter hos fucked up you are the doctors RARELY ever take samples of it because it is so hard for our bodies to make.

you're full of shit

Am I the only person who abstains only for the better faps/sex? Or is that another sign that I'm too far gone. I must say I am addicted to orgasms. I feel a bit bad if I've got my girlfriend to piss on my face or fart in my mouth so I can have an epic cum, especially once it's done and I snap back to reality. It's especially guilty if she wasn't in the mood and we're both aware I need it just to not spend the day in a crippling frustrated mood.

If I abstain its to increase the chance of getting horny by accident or to 'be naughty' and browse /d/ and suddenly have a great fap with a sensitive dick.

Everything's about the orgasm for me. The only reason I ever did any drugs I did and got addicted to DPH was for the earth shattering orgasms. Does that count as a problem? I don't see it as one, just hedonism and something to be embraced. I feel like a lot of people here at quite at odds with that.

>>7561669
>hard to take samples
>supposedly comes out your dick

>>7561611
10/10 perfect science

>>7553301
hey OP, I did nofap for 31 days and everything you've heard about it is bullshit. It literally made me almost gay, i would have fucked anything by the time it ended, be it male, female or non-human. Would not recommend, it didn't help me one bit.

Know a guy who cranks it multiple times a day. Says he sometimes has trouble keeping it up with with his gf even if he takes a short break from the fap train.

You should only do this shit if you think you got a problem and even then not go for whole weeks without a tug.

>>7560708
>Since I know you're going to like hearing this, for cleaning my bf puts a buttplug in me so that I will have an erection (making me easier to clean). It's the only time I get to have an erection when uncaged. He's careful to make sure I don't get much stimulation
Not him by this sounds hot.

I've done NoFap for a month total when I went to uni. It was near unbearable. I would get so horny at the worst of times and sensitive to the point where even washing was a challenge. When I do fap, it's maybe 25 minutes top and I continue with my day like it didn't happen.

The guy who started no-fap is a moron who's been shredded repeatedly by real doctors and criticized by psychologists as projecting his religious repression onto the whole world.

Masturbation is an issue if you do it until it's painful or interferes with normal function.
Period.

Jerking it once a day in your free time has no measurable impact, as far as the research is concerned. Even two or three times a day seem to be ok. Much more than that, and it's rare for the individual to not have some other disorder in play, though.

I've never done no fap, but I've gone months without fapping just because I haven't cared much to."

>>7562181
I completely agree, I have been locked in chastity for a little over 60 days and I would litterly do anything at this point to cum

>>7556403
You seem to be operating under the assumption that humans don't have an instinctual drive to mate. Of course it gets harder to masturbate the longer you go without doing it. Your body is saying "you need to be fucking and making babies". It's like how you get hungrier the longer you go without food.

It might not be the best thread to ask this but I don't think it deserves its own thread so whatever.

I've started taking lecithin with multivitamins in order to cum bigger loads. The usual way seems to abstain from fapping 3-5 days to get good results (which is what I'm already doing since I only fap once or twice a week) but I've come across a guy who says he'll take 5 to 7 times 1200mg of lecithin throughout the day and then cum buckets at night.

Does it actually work like that? I'd try it myself but I only ordered a month worth of lecithin and I don't want to waste 5 pills if it turns out to be bullshit.

I call bullshit on the claims about optimizing testosterone levels, but the addiction angle is quite interesting.

Dopamine is commonly brought up when talking about addictions, but I don't think people understand it properly. It's not a pleasure chemical, it's the reward part of a motivational system. Imagine you're trying to program an AI that can learn from experience. To achieve that, you'd need to make it experiment, be able to receive feedback on whether it did something right or wrong, and to be able to adjust itself to do more of whatever random thing it did to receive positive feedback. And that's what dopamine does: It's triggered when you think you did something right, and your brain subtly alters to do more of whatever processes that lead to the dopamine release. Anyone who has experienced being bored of fapping but fapping anyway should recognize this. If you were simply maximizing pleasure, you could easily wait until you start craving the pleasure again. But you don't, since it's a habit, it's something you just kinda do without needing any reasoning for it.

If you're completely hedonistic, there's no particular reason to stop fapping. But if you have any particular life goals, you really want your biggest dopamine releases to be from doing things that bring you towards your goals, otherwise resources that could be spent on moving you forwards will be spent on turning you into more of a chronic masturbator.

>>7553301
>rolling for streak
>starting at midnight

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What do you all think about ruined orgasms? How many do you think a trap (me!) should have before I'm allowed a real one??

Tried it for a couple of weeks, then fell out of it. It's really for people with an addiction to masturbating; as long as you're not jacking it three to four times a day every day you should be fine.

It taught me how to take breaks in the form of a day or two, and to only jerk it a max of twice a day if I was in the mood.

>>7555238
dude don't. I had anxiety and i pulled trough it. You can do it

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>>7565845
No one?? Traps are close enough to futas, right??

>>7565918
The half of them who got their anus morphed into a vagina by a consensual winkie plucking that has been going on for too long without interruptions yes.

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>>7565845
Oh, no set number. Why don't you roll a pair of dice when you're right about to cum and if you get snake eyes you're allowed to enjoy it.

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>>7566081
Those are mean odds! Which is very hot..

>>7565862
Who says what is an "addiction"? Stop using terms you don't know anything about. This nofap is christian bullshit all the way.

When I began masturbating I was doing it six times a day, and could not be happier/healthier. Then, I naturally tapered into maybe two per day, three some days. Never had any sex-related "problems". This is all bullshit, the pseudscientific idiotic idea that semen in your balls equals energy. WTF.

>>7565845
No penile orgasms for traps. Period.
If you can't cum from your ass you don't deserve to cum at all.

Women and traps are both the same: They're at their very best when they're turned on and horny but can't cum.
To keep them docile and needy and ready for sex you have to perpetually deny them but still consistently arouse them. It's the only way to keep them in their place, drooling over dick and humping legs.

>>7556403
>the longer you go, the harder it gets to resist the urge to masturbate. Until eventually you relapse and give in.
That's not true. Eventually, it's just not a habit anymore. If you're not having sex, you start having nocturnal emissions instead of masturbating.

If you leave your dick alone, it leaves you alone.

However, those first few months can be very distracting.

>>7566498
That's the thing about chastity, too: if you actually do it in the long term, you're just going to get used to it. You don't get hornier and hornier as the months and years drag on, after a couple of months, it's just the way things are.

Chastity devices have to be coming off and on with some regularity to keep you excited, so it never feels like having it on and not having erections and penile stimulation is just normal life.

>>7565845
I'd love to suck your cock daily and never let you cum. I wouldn't be happy until you cry about the idea of getting a blowjob <3

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>>7565845
(just so you're aware, I'm >>7560708 so this is coming from a position of experience)

As someone who is currently in indefinite chastity, I can now say that it's better to just give up penile orgasms entirely.

For us traps, the goal is to be as "girly" as possible. A girl does not have a penis, and for her sex does not involve using any part of her body as a penetrative organ. To be as close to a girl as possible, it's best for all orgasms to come from "being fucked" rather than from "doing the fucking" or using your hand to emulate that.

As for orgasms - personally, I love the feeling of being submissive. Recently I told my bf that he doesn't need to make me cum, and that I enjoy the frustration of him just fucking me and finishing and me not being able to get off.

Since I have a partner who controls whether I can masturbate (I have to ask him before I can use a dildo) I don't have a hard answer to your question, but I hope I gave you some guidelines from my experience. Unless you have a partner too, in which case ask him//her to ignore your pleasure and just fuck you until they're done - you learn to get off fast when that's the case.

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I was wondering if anyone else has had the problem I've been having.

I purchased a Holy Trainer (v2, regular size), and haven't been able to use it for extended periods of time - when it's on, I *really* can't pee. It's like it's too constrictive or something. I've cum with it on, and nothing comes out until I take it off. It doesn't even leak pre-cum. I'm not sure if it matters, but I've been using the stocking method to get it on every time, I haven't been able to figure out the other way.

If anyone has any input I'd really appreciate it.

>>7567781
That really should not be happening. Is the ring on too tight? Is your dick really crammed in there?

You're probably a grower - I wear the small HTv2 and there's still significant room within the cage for me. Your dick reaches the end of the cage, right?

>>7567781
I think I had that occasionally if I sat real weird, but just shifting would work. Or my foreskin gets bunched up at the end, but then you definitely notice pee bunching up. The few times I came in it it also didn't really come out well, but it was obviously blocked because of too much blood in that situation.

>>7567789
I'm 99% sure it only came with one size ring. How would I put it on more or less "tight"ly? Usually my dick feels at least a little crammed in.

Also, I always take it off and try again if I don't reach the end of the cage.

>>7567792
Alright, thanks. I wonder if the issue could have been too much blood when I was trying to pee also. The frustration of not being able to pee was definitely making my dick try to get hard.

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>>7567831
I forgot to attach a picture, figure I should contribute something

>>7567831
When you bought the Holytrainer v2, you should have had the option to choose your ring sizing. The Holytrainer's ring is not adjustable.

Are your balls turning purple? If so, your ring is too small. Unfortunately there is no fix to that except buying a new one. ON the other hand, if you are able to get your balls through it you're probably good - I know that even with a properly sized one I had some difficulty the first time.

Personally I strongly recommend soaking the cage in warm water before putting it on. That tends to do the trick to letting my dick slide all the way through without getting bunched up. Lube gets nasty and greasy after a while, and trying to do it dry usually makes my dick "turn" in the cage.

You want to be able to see your urethra at the end of the cage. If you're a grower like me this can be a problem because when I'm flaccid my dick does not get all the way down the cage (and I wear the small). You sound like a shower to me though. When you're erect if you can't see your urethra then that's a problem, and you may want to consider just putting up with the greasyness and using lube.

>>7567899
Alright, my balls have never turned blue/purple, so I'm going to also guess that I'm probably good on ring size.

Do you dry the inside off after soaking it? And do you use lube as well, or not?

Also, can you go into more detail about this "turn"ing? I think I'm experiencing this too. I can see the meatus (slit) , but the top of it starts about halfway down the opening in the cage. It looks like it's at an angle, and I'm assuming the bottom of the meatus is a bit below the bottom of the opening.

I also feel like the right side of my shaft (the side my vein is on) usually slips ever so slightly so that more of the left side of my shaft is in the actual cage. Not sure if this is normal/fine.

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>>7555238
As they other anons said, don't give up on yourself. Perhaps moderate improvements first to get you going. Don't expect anything. Just do and decide to see where to go from there.

>>7568337
I have no experience but I'm sure you could put some felt or something in the cracks that your skin gets stuck in

>>7566248
I think I know what an addiction is you assclown.

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>>7568693

>>7568337
If you are uncut then foreskin is a problem, specially with that closed tip you got there.

About the ring, isn't what that piece of tube is for? You put it on the hinge of the ring?

If you would be so kind to followup with us when you take it off, please tell if the insert sticks to the urethra after some hours. Some of my cages come with a removable sound but I like to wear the cage for weeks, so I don't know if it's dumb to put it on.

Longest I went was 30 days, felt pretty good but burst a vein in my dick

Not it can't get fully hard and lost a few cms; not that I was going to ever have sex anyway

>>7569017
>can't get fully hard and lost a few cms
sugoi monogatari, onee-chan

Nofap will really only do anything good for you if masturbation takes up too much of your time to begin with, the whole pseudoscience bullshit reddit talks about is either placebo effect or people realizing they have other problems than a porn/masturbation addiction.

if you wanna see how it affects you, give it 3-5 days and see how you feel, if you're dying on the inside, chances are you're addicted and could stand to cut back a little, however if jerking it doesn't really take up too much of your time to begin with, then there's no reason to nofap other than either saving up for a bigger load or intentionally doing it to get hornier.

Would it be considered an addiction to masturbate at least two times a day, every day? That's what I've been doing for most of my life since I started masturbating.

>>7553301
As long as you are not addicted to porn
Nofap has no scientifically proven benefits on your body or mind.

Actually Cuming has health benefits.
It helps prevent Prostate cancer,
Raises blood pressure,
Endorphins are released,

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>>7568971
I can't confirm, but I've read other places that there are serious health risks to leaving sounds in for extended periods.

Closed sounds have risks when you try to piss. Open sounds expose your urethra, which is *extremely* susceptible to infection.

I don't own a cage like that, though I'd try one out. I don't think I'd go for more than a session though. Like I said, I can't confirm that it's risky, but those claims kinda make sense to me.

>>7569496
For an adult? No.

If you're underage, that's less than I did when I was a teenager.

>>7553301
I dunno,
personally I have very little interest in hunting pussy if I masturbate regularly.

when I stop tho, damn i'm on the prowl

>>7568096
>I'm probably good on ring size
With the Holytrainer, just the fact that you were able to get the ring on suggests that it's a reasonable size. It can be hard to get in even if you're the right size if you are not used to it.

>Do you dry the inside off after soaking it
No, that would defeat the purpose. The water will evaporate quickly enough, and hopefully by then you'll be snug in your cage.

>And do you use lube as well, or not?
I do not. I'm able to get in without it. I would recommend using lube if you are really having trouble but once you're comfortable wearing the cage stop using it.

For me, water is my lube for getting in the cage.

>Also, can you go into more detail about this "turn"ing?
It's basically when your dick doesn't go into the cage straight, and get twisted within because of friction between the cage and your dick as you put it on. Water/lube should help with this issue significantly.

>I also feel like the right side of my shaft (the side my vein is on) usually slips ever so slightly
The cage should cover the entirety of your penis.

Are you trying to put the cage on when erect? Because that's just not going to happen. And are you a shower (in other words, does your penis remain roughly the same length erect as it is flaccid)? I'm a grower (my flaccid penis less than half my erect length) so that might make a significant difference in our experiences.

Maybe the wrong place to ask but,
Does anyone get that "hunger"
like, sometimes i feel like i'm on the prowl, like, suddenly i notice every girl in a 5 mile radius

>>7555238

You know how you get over that crippling anxiety? The only possible way? It's very simple. Do the things that make you anxious.... Till you don't give a fuck anymore, outcome be damned. Then you can do them confidently.

>>7570020
Problem is that if you can just do the things that make you anxious, you wouldn't have anxiety in the first place. Usually the key is to start very gently, like spending 5 minutes in a place where there are other people, and then slowly work yourself up to "scarier" situations, gradually learning that you can be in social situations without panicking. But the problem with that is that you don't usually get to choose exactly how much social exposure you get (beyond just isolating yourself completely). So someone who truly has crippling social anxiety would probably benefit most from seeking professional help, so they can get some sort of behavior therapy, which is basically what we're talking about, but in a more structured manner.

>>7566248
Catholic priest here, fapping is mentally, spiritually, and physically healthy.

It makes you very horny. I got a little too emotionally attached to Bastila, from KOTOR, and I didn't fap until I finished the game. Took me a week until I romances Bastila, and I have to say it was glorious.

>>7569923
If I've been fapping regularly and I have to stop for a few days, definitely. Usually I don't bother looking twice at any girl, knowing that I can go home and fap to my superior 2D dickgirls whenever I want. But a few days without fapping, and I turn into a huge creep, fantasizing about sticking my dick into any moderately attractive girl I see.

>>7570020
Nice just be urself :^) tier advice, surely that fixed all of that anon issues.

>>7570070
>Heretic protestant larping as an ordained priest
ftfy

>>7553301
For me, at least, it's really probably not a good idea.
I relieve a lot of stress fapping, I can shunt any lewd thoughts aside if I know I can fap to them later, and it allows me to vent my more "problematic" fetishes in a harmless environment. Frankly, if I couldn't handle my shit, I don't know how well I could realistically function at a professional level.

>>7553301

Everyone who talks about their productivity increasing seem to be fapping out of boredom.

For someone like me who only faps late at night when I'm not doing anything anyways be affected by going nofap?

>>7568693
>>7568926
This looks good!

>>7570020
For me, when I moved out and went to university, I decided I would act like I was confident. I've always been pretty good at lying, so I said I'd pretend I was confident. Like slipping into a character. I think it's a shit novella, but effectively what Gatsby does in The Great Gatsby. And it worked for me. Eventually I wasn't pretending anymore. I usually have a couple days a year where I just have to hermit up and have a bit of a solo breakdown, but I know how to get out of that hole now.

>>7569542
Yeah, agree, and the most "extended" I've read about is 10-hour-ish or "sleeping with it". Given my chastity times, they wouldn't go well with each other.

I've put some thin 35 cm long sounds in my dick (to reach the bladder and poke there to see what happened) but it's not a huge turn on for me.

>>7570070
That's what you tell your 11-year old bible students? Before you invite them to a weekend boat trip?

Sorry couldn't resist.

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>>7553301
do what feels good mofo and dont suppress your sexuality cause someone tells you. unless thats what gets you off...

>>7563906
Your friend might be right. When I haven't been on the stack for a while and am sensitive I can have same day results with a big dose. It normally takes 2-3 days minimum for lecithin to have an affect tho.

For the biggest loads possible 5000mg a day is a good amount. Try to find some lecithin granules if you can. It's easier and cheaper to have a spoonful of granules than popping pills.

It's really about what you want. Are you looking just to have fun with bigger loads during fapping or are you aiming to have gigantic cumshots to fufill a fetish?

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>>7553301
I think it's kinda dumb, it feels nice to hold it in for 3-5 days and then release it, but more is just pointless.

Masturbation is completely natural and healthy, it's only a problem if it takes too much of your free time.

While we have a thread for subjects like this, the last few days, I've been constantly horny, and only showers calm me down. What is happening? Is seasonal horniness/heat a thing among humans?

Fools, nofap is a trap to kill the weak and ugly...
If you charge libido too much eventually...

Im thinking of getting that 30mm cage from dhgate, im a grower and my dick is so damn small before I get hard that every other cage i tried dwarfed me

Anyone have experience with small cages? What should I look out for and what should I avoid when using one that small?

>>7553301
I have no idea how not masturbating would increase productivity. The longest I've gone without was a week (a road trip with no privacy) and by the end of that, I was so horny that I could barely think pure thoughts.
Your body has urges and you need to satisfy them to be productive. That's no different to if you were saying "nosleep" or "noeat".

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Sorry if this is off topic or unwanted, but I have a few questions about the holy trainer.

If I live in amerifat will I have to pay customs fees? How long does it take for orders to be processed? Is it worth the price if I have some disposable income?

>>7570416
>Are you looking just to have fun with bigger loads during fapping or are you aiming to have gigantic cumshots to fufill a fetish?

Bigger loads. I don't know what I ate but I came an awful lot a few weeks ago and that orgasm felt pretty damn good. Since the other factors were pretty much the same as usual, I came to the conclusion that bigger loads simply feel nicer and I want to recreate that.

Cumming absurd amounts of cum would be nice (the cleanup, not so much) but my stack only consists in multivitamins and lecithin anyway.

>>7571688
As far as I know, America doesn't have customs fees except for businesses that ship thousands of dollars worth of stuff. Though I don't live in America.
And I've heard that people really like the Holy Trainer, I only have a Chinese knockoff which I like aside from some slight imperfections which probably only exist because it's Chinese.
No idea about the order time.

>>7571426
>What should I look out for and what should I avoid
What kind of question is that.

>>7556403
>When you orgasm, that releases dopamine in the brain. That's what makes you feel good.

it's actually not.

From what I've read, dopamine acts as a "flag" that's triggered by stuff that feels good so that you can remember to do them again.

It still arguably plays a role in addiction, but it really throws the science of the whole nofap thing into question when it's purveyors are constantly pushing the same misconceptions.

how many times a day do you fap

>>7572120
>It still arguably plays a role in addiction
Not really arguable, it's the whole mechanism behind addiction, and it's the reason why addicts can continue to feel the urge to pursue their addiction even if they're not feeling much pleasure from it anymore.

Anyway, just because a lot of people don't understand how it works doesn't mean you have to discard the whole idea. Tons how people wouldn't be able to explain how gravity works.

>>7572120
>>7572465
>>etc etc
It's amazing how many super experts we have in this thread about dopamine, serotonin, addictions, ... ask them anything.

Idiots.

>>7570874
I think so. I mean you're balls droop when it's hot which is the same as when you're horny .

>>7572727
>hurr durr look at how smart you are
Not an argument.

So
Is there chastity for micropenis (5.5 cm erected, 1 cm soft).
Or I must bought a woman's device?

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>>7556101
so how is it really a bad thing, beyond less testosterone?

>>7572465
If the people pushing it don't understand how it works or are content lying about it, that's a bad sign. If I describe gravity as a winch constantly tugging on you, and assure you giving up coffee clogs the gears in the winch, I'm a charlatan and a fraud and you probably shouldn't give up coffee in the hopes that it will accomplish anything related to what I've been saying.

Also,
>it releases dopamine therefore it's addictive
triggers my goddamned jimmies. Everything releases dopamine. It's not some special secret juice your brain busts out exclusively for crippling addictions, it's a common hormone your body uses on a routine basis. Opening your explanation with "just like heroin!" is like claiming a food is unhealthy because it "contains calories." At absolute best, you're grossly oversimplifying the situation. At worst, you have literally no idea what you're talking about.

>>7555238
Inch by inch, man. Open the front door every now and then. Stick your head out a window. Answer the phone so you can tell the telemarketer to go away instead of dropping to the floor and sweating profusely. It doesn't have to be anything major, just push your boundaries a little, take small victories and acclimate yourself where you can.

>>7573506
>If I describe gravity as a winch constantly tugging on you, and assure you giving up coffee clogs the gears in the winch, I'm a charlatan and a fraud and you probably shouldn't give up coffee in the hopes that it will accomplish anything related to what I've been saying.
Sure, but I wouldn't say "this one guy being a hack really throws the whole idea of gravity into question".

>it releases dopamine therefore it's addictive
Never said anything like that. I said dopamine is involved in addiction, not that everything that involves dopamine is addiction.

Dopamine is the main way your brain figures out how to orient itself in the world, so it's not a bad guy at all. The problem is when you can get a lot of it from a really simple activity. It's like your dog figuring out where you hid the doggie treats, it's suddenly gonna be a lot more interested in raiding your cupboard than waiting for you to reward it for good behavior.

Strangely, a lot of people seem to be forgetting that calling something potentially addicting doesn't necessarily mean everyone has to stay away from it altogether. The key is always to look at the role it plays in your life. If you find that the pleasure you get out of fapping is always worth the time you put into it and it doesn't interfere with anything else, there's no problem. But it would be prudent to look out for signs that you're a little too hooked, such as procrastinating important things in favor of fapping or browsing porn, spending a significant portion of your day on fapping, fapping without caring how good it feels, as if you're scratching an itch, disinterest in sexual activity outside of fapping, fapping to stuff that actually makes you feel bad (NTR, humiliation, extreme S&M), etc.

>>7553301
Humans (and essentially everything else on Earth) are built around doing exactly three things. Sleep, nutrition, and reproduction. Every and any thing else is extra. So, you holding yourself back from sexual pleasure is simply you stopping a core reason for survival from happening.

It won't increase anything other than how irritated you are. Go jack off and get some rest so you can focus. Eat more spinach so you can disgest the food you eat and chill tf out.

>>7573399
It's not, and that post isn't even very accurate. There's nothing wrong with stroking out once a day. The real issue is porn, or whatever you use to get off. Unless it's an actual person you gotta change it up when going solo. You don't want your body to adapt to only one way of getting off


Tldr use your imagination, touch your body, get laid, chill on the porn sometimes. You'll be fine.

>>7573377
Nothing's an argument that's made of opinion, personal experience, and generally winging it. No wonder this is a hot topic among idiots, just look at the reactions here: 99% is opinion, nothing solid beyond, no science, only wishful thinking.

Some religions have some fixed days for fasting. It's supposed to "cleanse" you spiritually. Whatever floats your boat, but idiots are eager to overstep the border between them and others.

If you pretend that what's good for you is also good for me, you are generally an idiot.
If you intend to support your ideas on pseudoscience, you are a charlatan.
If you don't tyr to bullshit me by being a charlatan or an idiot, then you are welcome, but you get no respect trying to base your personal views on crap and expect others to follow you because muh feelings.

But as I said, no wonder this attracts idiots, it's a grey area so everyone's invited to the shitstorm! You've almost convinced me! Try harder, not smarter!

>>7573812
>hurr durr everything you say is just your opinion
Still not an argument.

it's called marriage, and it appears to kill productivity and dreams