META THREAD Why the fuck are caption threads not allowed. I

>>7469190
And then you look at >>7455500, filled with captions and not deleted. Why? It's a "chastity and denial" thread, not a caption thread. If you're going to delete caption threads, delete the denial threads too, because they're no worse.

>inb4 thread deleted with no response or reason as to why

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Because "low quality content" is basically the go-to explanation (although most people believe it's just a mod/janitor with a bone to pick).

Of course other threads are equally "low quality" (censorship thread, CYOA thread, deviant voice thread, a portion of the drawthreads and writefriend threads) since it's mostly amateur work. But what's the big deal when so many people like this content and don't make trouble? That's what makes it seem really unfair and unjust to single out captions - some people really like this content, low quality though it may be to others.

Anyway, if you don't want to voice your concerns here, go visit #4chan on IRC and there's sure to be a mod who'll tell you what their stance is.

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Okay guys look. I'm a big fan of d and even though some of the threads on here are a little too weird for me, not too kinky just not my think, we have to have a reality check. Have any of you ever been to /h/? It's full of shit tier edit threads and that's why /h/ is rotting away. The format is fucked and they let far too many edit threads on there like BLACK thread where the skin tones of dudes is changed with a single slider in photoshop, someone gives them a shitty tattoo and now a normal image is now a BLACK image. Then factor in that the same image is being posted in the 'color edit thread' and now you have 3 of the same fuckin image on the board posted there. I'm not even counting when an image can go into 5 different threads.

They banned these cause they're crappy edits. If you guys want a mom/son thread, go to incest, use your imagination. You don't need 'Oh sugoi son-chan, I didn't know you were bathing kawaiiiiiii..'

It's not a rule, yet, but you guys keep fucking with it and you're going to cause some fucking 4chan lawyer to draft a 3 page document about what we can post on d rather than one mod saying 'stop posting edits, they're low quality.'

>>7469190
I think caption threads should be allowed.

>>7469319
I find it kinda ironic, because threads like that are one of the few reasons to even visit /d/ instead of a *booru. If I was looking for "high-quality" imagedumps, I'd just head to gelbooru and get it all in a much better format without all the reposting. But if I want content creation or discussion, I need to visit a place that has a community, like /d/. And it seems like all the threads that are considered low quality have in common that they make use of /d/ as a community rather than as a dumping grounds for images.

I guess the problem is that these boards were originally created to dump porn on, because back then we didn't have millions of image databases providing the same thing for free. Even though things have changed now, it's still very easy to make the argument that the porn boards are just for posting porn, "it's in the fucking name".

>>7469367
I don't think you understand how much of an audience caption threads have.

>>7469367
And yet that's never been a problem on /d/. You're comparing apples and oranges here. /co/ and /mlp/ are similar for example but the quality of posting and content on /co/ is much worse.

>>7469511
He's just talking about quality, not popularity. Shitposting could be described as popular on a lot of boards, but I don't have to explain why that has to be moderated.

But it does beg the question, who's going to decide what's high enough quality? Popularity tends to be a good measure, but in exceptional cases, like shitposting, you need to find another principle to follow. Maybe you could define shitposting as "posts that clearly contribute nothing to the board". That seems fair to me. But when it comes to content that does contribute something, but is still too low quality, I can't think of any good principles. And I get the impression that they don't have one, leaving it all up to individual judgement, giving us this really inconsistent moderation where certain threads can thrive one day and be completely wiped off the board another day. The inconsistency annoys me more than anything else.

Dear shitty mod,

I'm not sure if anyone's ever explained this to you in so many words, since nobody knows who you are and you never post anything on the subject, so here goes. We NEED these caption threads on /d/. If the rest of the users here are like me, they're our top destination for porn. Nothing really gets us off like a good caption thread.

First of all, nowhere else does there exist a space for these captions quite like /d/. The active communities just aren't there. Have you seen the threads on 8ch*n? They're abysmal. You'll get maybe one new post a day, if that, and most of the time they're reposts. Imgfap captions can be okay on the rare occasion, but most of them make me want to puke. It's clear most of them are made with by lonely old men with only one hand on the keyboard. /d/ threads can get up to 40 or 50 new posts in a day or two, with much of it being fresh content and active discussion. Clearly there is large base of people that come here for these threads, and only here.

Secondly, much of the subject matter explored in /d/ caption threads can't really be found in good quality elsewhere on the internet. Take, for example, the classic forced breastfeeding momdom captions. There are plenty of good ones often posted in these threads, but outside of /d/ there's little to be found for this fetish. Especially since users often write for the specific requests of others, caption threads allow people's very specific, uncommon fetishes to be made into content.

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Now, I know you often like to cite global rule six when taking down threads. You think caption threads are low quality. Well, I disagree. Caption threads provide a porn experience not found in other forms. It's not just an image with words. It's somebody's personal take on what's happening in that image. When you caption something, you are giving it a whole new depth of meaning. You give the image a story, a character. It's like the difference between a full-fledged porn video and a thirty second gif cut from the middle of it. Sure, I guess I could use my imagination, but that omly goes so far. I only have one perspective, and I'm not that creative. A hand-crafted porn scenario, written specifically for me by someone far more talented, however, I can get into.

Keep in mind that when you delete these threads, our quality of life is actually seriously impacted. Masturbation becomes tedious and stressful, almost a chore. So until we have the freedom to post our captions, we won't drop this. I promise you that.

Please mod, I beg of you. Quit being a power-tripping cock-sucking tool. You appear to be the only one who cares about this. There's really only ever one thread at a time, maybe two if someone screws up. Just let us spank it in peace. We're not hurting anyone.

Sincerely,

A lurker who really likes caption threads.

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Just a thought, if you guys like captions and don't mind seeing a little furry there are some great captions on the JOI threads on /trash/. But that is not a substitute for general caption threads like the ones we had, because those are specifically JOI stuff. You could also post a sticky saying general caption threads belong on /trash/ or somethng too, but why cant we just post them on /d/ then?

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>>7469671
I go to those threads, but you are greatly underplaying how much furry stuff there is in those threads.
It's to the point that the people that make the captions comment on how rare human JOI are.
I like the caption threads and think they should stay, considering I didn't even get halfway through the last one before it got pruned after like a full day.
Seems like somebody is just butthurt about them

>>7469655
You're going to get banned for that but I support you.

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>>7469190
I don't necessarily have a problem with a dedicated caption thread, but I definitely do have a problem with posting of captions in other threads, which I feel is encouraged by the presence of dedicated caption threads.

Captions essentially just shoehorn fetishes into unrelated pictures, as if taking a picture of some chick with big boobs and writing a mediocre paragraph about how she "used to be a boy until I drank a bottle labeled boobiluxe" suddenly makes it gender bender content. The image doesn't fit, and the brevity of the caption itself makes it mediocre writefaggotry too; it's SLIGHTLY better than people who go and post, like, a shemale in a futa dick growth thread and go "she used to be a girl fuck off stop taking this so seriously" because the barest minimum of effort was made to tie the random image into the fetish, but it's still piss-poor content.

And I don't necessarily agree that no other content comes from here; I've personally made a bunch of defeminization gifs from pixiv sets, shared some paycomics, hosted some anon-translated stuff of panda, made dedicated galleries out of single-fetish stuff posted on here, and personally typeset pic related and a couple other things after seeing discussions on here about them. Other dudes share their actual decent writefaggotry on here, still others drawfag. Captions are definitely super low on the "content creation" totem pole.

Literally the only reason I come here is for caption threads. Remove those, and I'm fucking gone.

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The only change I think /d/ needs is a sticky with very clear board rules because newfags DO NOT read rules. As much fun as I have trying to come up with new ways to say "this isn't /d/ material, go to /h/", or "western/guro go home", or "you need at least six images to start a thread", I'd prefer not to be confronted with their stupidity in the first place. I think a sticky with very explicit rules would not only decrease the amount of terrible threads, it would also give justification for lengthier bans on these shitty users who make these 1-image threads and godawful discord shills.

tl;dr: we need a sticky.

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>>7469655
>Keep in mind that when you delete these threads, our quality of life is actually seriously impacted. Masturbation becomes tedious and stressful, almost a chore.

also lol

come in here and postfight me coward

>>7469903
The mods/janitors are a worse problem on /d/ than the posters about 80% of the time. About the only rule-breaking content I regularly see is loli/shota, and the mods ignore that even when it's reported; meanwhile, they go around deleting random shit they don't like.

Stickies ain't gonna do anything meaningful.

I don't see any reason why caption threads shouldn't be allowed personally.

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>>7469885
Traps essentially just shoehorn fetishes into unrelated pictures, as if drawing a picture of some chick with a flat chest and adding a throbbing dongle "which is proof she (he) was born male" suddenly makes it compelling content. The genitalia doesn't fit, and the pointless addition of a manpickle makes it a mediocre drawing too.

Think of all the awesome flat-chested girl content we'd have if content producers weren't so obsessed with adding dicks to every flat-chested girl drawing they made. What is wrong with them? Don't they understand when they add dicks they're just making the content worse? How could anyone get off to that?

Dear mod
Im sorry your favourite /h threads are shit now, but /d just doesnt have that problem. The thing with captions is they're highly specific. You will never think they are high quality unless you like that fettish and style of writing. Just let us have our wierd porn, ok?

>>7469190
Id rather we have caption threads so i could avoid them. It's so fucking irritating when u find a promising thread witha bucnh of images only to find out that it's filled to the fucking brim with captions.

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>>7469367
Captions are clearly defined, there's a clear line between captions and other kinds of edits. Captions are short texts attached to an image, adding context to it and enhancing it significantly by creating completely new scenarios. Pic related is a good example, the author created a new and unique scenario with his writing.
>It's not a rule, yet, but you guys keep fucking with it and you're going to cause some fucking 4chan lawyer to draft a 3 page document about what we can post on d rather than one mod saying 'stop posting edits, they're low quality.'
That's just an fearmongering with an empty threat, you're trying to get us to stop complaining about it.
>>7469885
Certain fetishes are much easier to convey through text, rather than a single static image(and comics or image series are an assload of work)
>Other dudes share their actual decent writefaggotry on here, still others drawfag.
Quests have been deleted on many occasions in the past, and /d/ was never a board with much writing, captions qualify as images and got a pass.

I used to like /d/ more. But the amount of low quality material keeps increasing. Caption threads it's another reflex of how you faggots keep getting lower and lower standards to actually jerk off a poorly written cringe text made by a fat greasy hairy neet.

Thanks, mods. Just wish you would ban more low quality content specially the western and anon-made ones.

Strange how erotic fiction is a-okay, but captions somehow cross some arbitrary line.

>>7470539
>Captions are short texts attached to an image, adding context to it and enhancing it significantly by creating completely new scenarios.

So you're saying it's an EDIT.

>>7470559
>Your porn is more degenate than mine you fucking loser
Pathetic

>>7469190
The reason caption threads are getting deleted as of late is probably because we were assigned a new mod who had been working on a board where there was an unspoken rule against captions, who has been applying his experience on other boards here.

It's only been about a month since the caption threads started getting deleted, and for several months prior to that they had been hitting bump limit before quietly autosaging off the board like any other active thread.

The thing about 4chan boards, though, is that they tend to outlast shitty mods.

Oh, and captions are shit.

bump. please tell us mods

>>7470892
The irony is that the mods have set the thread to autosage.

>>7470893
fucking amazing.

>>7470893
It's not like there's no archive, worst case you link the loveisover thread up and ask if mods are allowed to do that kind of shit.

>>7470559
Who do you think draws all the porn you fap to? Spoiler alert: They probably have at least one of these characteristics: fat, hairy, greasy, neet.

>I used to like /d/ more. But the amount of low quality material keeps increasing. With trap threads it's another reflex of how you faggots keep getting lower and lower standards to actually jerk off to poorly conceived gay faggot images drawn by some gay prancing lala homo man.

What is the thing with mods and not explaining or having any communication at all?
And not just on /d/, just 4chan in general.

>>7471082
Anonymous culture removes all sense of ownership to one's actions, even for the mods it seems.

>>7470559
This is exactly why we need a caption thread. The caption guys can post their stuff there, and not shit up our other threads.

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>>7471169
I don't browse every thread on /d/ so forgive me, but which threads exactly are captions "shitting up"?

It's been said a number of times in this thread that captions are of low quality, and I feel that is unfairly broad to what it is captions provide to /d/ as a community. They are as much a craft of graphic design as they are in writing. The best of these edits not only add story elements to an image but can compliment the image itself. Yeah a lot of them can be trash, but the good stuff is what gets reposted and shared around. Caption related has been posted around in monster girl threads and similar since 2013, and certainly much more frequently than the original image alone.

Whether or not this craft of captioning belongs on /d/ along with other creation threads is what I'd (hopefully) like to see us agree upon. I'd like to see them stay, or least make it clear within the guidelines of the board that they are no longer welcome.

>>7471082
Mods don't want to draw attention to themselves, partly because it leaves them open to criticism, and partly because it inevitably derails threads

they're basically like unelected officials, you have to "lobby" in IRC if you want to actually communicate, rather than just be a /d/ "citizen" waving the protest sign that is your post and hoping a mod notices you

>>7469655
I coulnt have said it better myself, and im writing books for a living.

The issue with caption threads only exist because the people who write captions have never taken a class in spelling or grammar in their entire lives. I tried talking to one of these people before and, after a few hours of conversation, he admitted that he was autistic and had ADHD. I've got an archive of our conversation which I periodically look at because it's that fucking funny. In other words, the problem is not with the threads themselves, but the people in them. It might sound outlandish, but I think a reasonable move would be to start handing out warns and bans to people with poorly written captions, as currently the more talented people that they have to share the thread with would otherwise be unfairly sharing their punishment.

>>7471443
This 100%. They're so fucking bad.

So many retards think they can slap their below-amateur writing skills onto a random hentai image and people will jack off to it.And then they get mad when their garbage content is deservedly deleted.