Having caption threads separate didn't seem to work out. General hypno/mind control thread.
Almost forgot source on the OP image: https://exhentai.org/g/1059440/7347be9fc2/
I'm going to bed now, hopefully this thread survives longer than the previous ones.
I wish I can get hypnotized into being a mindless slave, but it seems like guys want to be hypnotized more than doing the hypnotizing.
>>7452945
Can I get some sauce?
>>7453144
Himitsu no Onedari by Akitsuki Itsuki.
>>7453127
I much prefer the hypnotizing. Not that I know much about how to do it, I just prefer watching someone being controlled rather than being hypnotized myself.
>>7453234
Oh shit it's you! I love your work! Do you take requests?
>>7453547
Yeah, feel free to leave a request. This is a hypno/mind-control thread though, so make sure it's in topic.
>>7453799
Bump with content next time
>>7454746
>>7454749
I wish I can have this happen to me
>>7453944
In topic, of course.
If it's all right, I'd like the perception-altering brand of hypnotization, please.
Thank you in advance.
>>7454901
Perfect, I love it! How do you keep being so based, Anon?
I really like that red glow behind the second paragraph, it's a real subtle change of visuals.
Sorry for the trouble.
>>7454861
http://manyakisart.tumblr.com
>>7454798
>thicc
>>7452947
>doesn't kiss her when unhypnotized
New DATE doujin!
https://exhentai.org/g/1069740/5e596170c3/
>>7456360
>doujin
Nope.
>>7456766
we love demons here too my friend, all are accepted on /d/ but not all is allowed to be shown.
>>7456766
Like most fetishes it's about the power struggle, but this one is mental instead of physical or emotional
>>7454763
Long, but good
>>7456695
It's not technically a doujin, but I still use the colloquialism simply because there isn't a good alternative. Should I call it a "new ero-manga" or a "new comic" maybe?
>>7457203
Simply manga is fine, as it applies both to doujin or magazine publications (the day DATE stops doing adult content is hopefully forever away).
You can also go for even more neutral terms, like "story". Thanks for not kicking my autism in the face, though, it's appreciated.
>>7456360
>Gross large guy
Goddammit, another one. Take what I can get, I suppose.*unzips pants anyways*
>>7457580
>>7457203
Doujin is probably fine, most people won't give a shit what you call it.
>>7457574
I feel like even DATE is getting sick of this trope.
"A shitty man's shitty app"
Like he said "Fuck it, people want to read stories of assholes with magic cellphone apps, I'll write one. It'll be the most generic magic cellphone bullshit story anyone has ever seen".
Has anyone here actually hypnotized themself? I came close but never fully fell under
>>7453127
I think that's just /d/, with a disproportionate amount of gay and submissive men. I'm a male hypnotist and on /d/ the only ones who want to be hypnotized are men or traps.
>>7454798
As the guy or the girl?
>>7453127
It's hard to say, since I know hypnosis isn't real - at least not how it's presented - but I don't think I'd be comfortable giving myself up completely to another person like that. It's kind of scary.
On the other hand, apparently - according to internet people, that is - I'm pretty good at giving orders. And there is something amazingly attractive about another person being unable to resist following my commands, even if I never really make use of that power, never push things. Being in control is awkward to me.
>>7453127
It's just /d/ and the large amount of sissies.
I am a straight guy and I would gladly hypnotize a girl any day.
Anyone got a good hypnosis to switch me to crave anal
>>7453944
You want a name for the Booru or keeping it anon?
Does anyone have a link to the hentai that was called "Male/Boy fantasies" or something i saw it on one of the hypno threads awjile ago but im not sure anymore
>>7462467
Sure, put it under 'Datchy'. Captions seem to be bannable now on 4chan, so I won't try to post more atm.
>>7463756
>captions bannable
What
Why?
>>7464503
>What
>Why?
Autism, that's why.
Personally, I don't like the captions. I feel like they're a bit too long generally and off the mark. But IDGAF if someone wants to post them here. They're still fucking on-topic, and better than fags that whine about the thread and don't post any content to go with it.
>>7464513
Is there a single board with good janitors?
>>7458332
Yeah, plenty of times.
>>7458567
Hypnosis is 100% a real documented state (though perhaps not that distinguishable from extreme mental relaxation), though it isn't mind control. It's weird to me that so many people are skeptical of it, but that probably comes from all the people tying it to shit like "sexual energy" or crystals and other new age shit.
You do become more suggestible, but that doesn't mean you'll think you're a chicken or anything, though it can give spontaneous sensations (and/or orgasms) and other tricks if the subject accepts them.
>>7453127
I've never done it but wanted to. I would love if I had the free time and space to do this with some girl(trans or not) or cute trap.
Someone as other like the two in front of the tv, please ?
>>7464835
Ordinary guy, perhaps. Not super-hot dudes who can get girls without hypnosis and just want absolute domination, but I don't want to vomit every time he shows up on panel either.
>>7465700
she ate that and her dick grew?
>>7452945
did that mod cut the last caption thread?
>>7463756
no, it's a mod that apperently shows up during this time of the year that dislikes them since he finds them "distracting"
>>7464835
Regular ass motherfucker, who'd look okay if he just took care of himself a bit better.
>>7465434
This looks interesting, is it from a visual novel?
>>7458332
I did, but then I ordered myself to forget that I ever did it, but since I'm terrible at it I still remembered.
>>7452945
alternate interpretation: the hand is hers and she can't make him stop so she panics.
>>7464835
Regular guys or hot guys in general
I like the idea of a girl really wanting to have a guy as her boyfriend, but can't really get over the fact that he likes some kink (possibly not hypnosis) and he hypnotized her willingly, but then while under slightly betrays her trust and gets her to enjoy the idea of submission more and more until she's begging for him to hypnotize her more often
Time to get this thread going again
>>7466868
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>>7466888
checked
>>7466889
>>7466891
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>>7464835
Hot dudes, hot chicks, generic dudes, generic chicks, Femdom, or Maledom I'm all good with. Just stop burning my eyes out with gross/ fat/ old/ wrinkly/ blobby guys.
The amount of times I've clicked on covers of manga with cute anime girls being hypnotized, and noping the fuck outta there due to the aforementioned gross dude appearing happens more often than I would like.
That being said, I wouldn't mind seeing cute guys get hypnotized by girls either, but that's a faraway dream. (Watch, karma will see this and it will be the rise of blobtacular girls and stuff of nightmares.)
>>7465761
probaby some cuck highschooler
>>7464835
>https://exhentai.org/g/1069740/5e596170c3/
we're a bunch of pansexual perverts here, I want the guy to be hot enough to jerk off to
Dear ReCaptcha:
We have better things to do with our time than help your battle droids learn to identify strategic targets
>>7457203
Call it a fucking doujin ignore the autism
>>7470018
Thanks for your contribution, mongoloid.
>>7467175
Or someone, like most people, think your captions are shit.
You will love wearing Z-Tech helmets. You love to strip. You will want to help get others to try them on.
>>7470537
Careful with that lewd text, anon.
I'll post some minor edits and such that I've done. Take them if you want them.
>>7472398
Hurrah for laziness. This one is ambiguously MC, but I like to think it's some kind of brainwashing.
>>7472401
I saved the textless version too, if the dialog isn't MC-y enough for your taste.
>>7472403
>>7472405
Look mom, I can add red rings around an eye, I'm a maniper!
>>7472409
Loved ciel in tsukihime, but curry memes were never that funny though.
>>7472412
>>7472417
>>7472422
>>7472431
Oh, the misaki one is read left to right top to bottom, sorry if that's unclear
>>7472435
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>>7472440
>>7472444
>>7472409
That is legit kinda horrifying, like they have some godforsaken tropical disease.
>>7473175
Source?
>>7473224
It's the cover of one of the Saimin Yuugi LNs.
>>7473270
Source of this ?
>>7474322
http://www.tsumino.com/Book/Info/18824/1/school-love-net-6-fakku
Easily googled.
>>7466487
>/jp/ weirdly enough.
Except for that one who deletes tens of post in a thread just for mentioning that a relevant discord page exists. I mean, I can understand removing the link, but he wiped out every post that replied and every reply to that, basically censoring everything... multiple times.
>>7475415
In fairness, that's needed if you don't want people to see the link, since plenty of extensions can let you see deleted posts if there's a reply.
https://nhentai.net/g/197243/
Pretty sure this is relevant
http://www.tsumino.com/Book/Info/25434/1/mind-control-love-control-fakku
Random MC-porn bump.
>>7458332
[spoiler]LSD and hypno is a great combination if you're fine being that kind of degenerate[/spoiler]
Mind control via drugs?
>>7477896
The CIA might have been onto something after all
>>7478756
Well, PCP has dissociating effects and makes you highly suggestible, so you can probably pull a lot of horrible shit with it.
>>7478762
I thought you just go nuts and drive into grocery stores
>>7479447
You go nuts and do whatever floats around your head, really.
In honor of the film's success
>>7480238
Now I have a fucking desire to play Merci, while being naked... thanks anon
>>7482109
You're welcome, slut. Make sure to keep us updated (pic related)
>>7454429
I always love these. What are these monsters called?
>>7482140
Illithids (or mindflayers, to the uninitiated)
>>7482131
kys nigger
>>7470385
>>7467175
>>7465761
>>7465750
Makes sense.
All recycled material with middle school erotica tier writing on it in an annoying photoshop font.
I just hope they destroyed the censorship cuck thread hardest. That place is fucking cancer.
"We're gonna go to a porn board, censor all the porn, and write ultra cringy attempts at humiliation on the pic and fantasize that the image itself is cucking us."
The pinnacle of retardation. Not even ponyfags were ever that fucking stupid.
>>7475450
Fun fact, I just got a 3 day ban from /jp/ just for pointing out the fact that there was a mod deleting posts.
He claimed it was off-topic despite the picture being very much related, and my reply was to someone asking what happened to the other posts (several of which also had relevant pics).
>>7467170
THIS, I mean seriously would it kill people to draw more average guys they're always so gross, I don't mind fat dudes but the way they're drawn is just eh.
>>7458554
>implying there are women on the internet
>>7483949
>implying everyone self-inserts as their own gender
>>7483935
>I don't mind fat dudes but the way they're drawn is just eh.
What about this ← particular example ?
>>7484565
Source?
>>7484637
https://hitomi.la/galleries/801004.html
>>7483935
Ironically, OP's pic is actually one of the few artists who draws their male characters pretty normal looking.
Does anybodu remember the name of the doujin where some lawyer lady is kidnapped by the man she put in prison for 10 years? The description is broad but thats all i can remember. I vaguely remember finding it in one of these threads
>>7484565
ew. his face is so nasty, even if his body is fine
>>7485049
MC was pretty fat in Devil in your Subconcious
>>7480238
i thought i was immune to these dumb things, but i keep watching it. now i have an urge to fuck myself with a dildo while i play Mercy. i usually don't play her because it's so stereotypical for a girl to play her...
>>7486145
>i thought i was immune to these dumb things,
Because there's no such thing as being immune to everything. Only, it only works when it's stuff you deeply click with.
Rejoice about learning more about yourself, and go play a few rounds with that dildo on.
>>7483396
That's nothing. Every single picture in the caption thread was deleted and every contributor banned.
I mean holy shit, I just took a look; it's fucking apocalyptic! If the mod doesn't get thrown out so hard he skips on the sidewalk after that, I don't know what'll take him down!
>>7487759
>>7483396
I'd be absolutely shocked if both of these weren't some new mod/janitor on a power trip. /jp/ especially - that's been my main board for years and I haven't seen moderation that heavy-handed since 2010/2011ish
>>7482189
Nobody's fucking forcing you to look at porn you don't like. If you don't like a thread - don't read it.
But people who go around mass reporting threads because it's not their particular cup of tea are just assholes.
What about mind control through drugs??
>>7489769
Consider it done.
Trying to find a story about two archeologists finding rings that allow each other to dominate each others thoughts. Female perspective as she's unaware how she's being dominated.
>>7490382
Not it, but here's a good one with necklaces instead of rings, and male perspective with a reversal.
http://www.mcstories.com/WhateverIWant/index.html
>>7489943
Uhm... Is she gonna be okay? I mean besides being hopelessly addicted to the person she's looking at?
>>7490098
Whoa now, careful there! Don't want to bring- You know, I'd call him nazimod, but even that doesn't seem to cover the scale of the fucking holocaust he's unleashing on the caption threads. Anyone know how to report the asshole?
Love that one though. There's another involving a succubus getting thoroughly dicknotised that I like to think is a sequel.
>>7490867
Random refugee from one of those threads here. Don't even get me started about the discussion about this on /qa/ thread or the glacier that is the caption thread banished to /trash/
All that aside. I too would like to see a Succubus getting mind broken. Maybe becoming a little more tame and submissive, or blowing a mental fuse after a really intense orgasm or too many orgasms even for a succubus.
I like hypnosis where the person controls the body but their not mindless. Can i have some of that?
>>7490902
>>7454798
I'm glad someone enjoyed my commission, haha.
>>7453127
I'm only interested in hypnotizing girls, but my email is [email protected]
>>7491077
woo
>>7487820
In case anyone cares, the strange marks on her legs aren't reallg kanji. That's how Japanese tally things, so it's counting how many loads she's taken. Each stroke equals 1 obviously.
Dumping.
Mind control, memory rewriting, hypnotic commands, 'hacking' people's sensory perception, etc.
"Ou-sama App" / "King's App" by Takatsu (in english)
https://exhentai.org/g/991727/04a78a8633/
>>7492859
have a nice cum bb
>>7458553
I would like to try, I'm female. How could this work out?
>>7493726
Well, first you would need to figure out who are the real ones and not the wannabes. Then, a way to contact without being swarmed by all the wannabes. Then, be patient with the few who contact you and seem to offer what you want.
What are you looking for, exactly?
>>7489532
That doesn't stop it being shit art...? What's your point? It lowers the overall quality of art posted here on the board whether one person looks at it or not.
Anyway, the C/D threads are getting deleted anyway so you know, looks like you're wrong?
>>7489532
>I am entitled to post any of my shit I want no matter how shitty!
You are just trying to justify your own shit quality captions that nobody likes.
>>7489532
>REEEEE LET ME POST MY DEVIANTART TIER SHIT HERE STOP REPORTING MEEEEEE
>DONT MAKE ME FOLLOW THE RULES REEEEEEEEE
nice samefag, shitstain
go back to sucking mod dick
Everybody quit bitching and post porn. Yeesh.
>>7494166
Agreed, or bitch while posting porn.
>>7486145
I swear to fucking god if I Q with you and you cant play because you're pleasuring yourself I'm gonna be pissed
A Shadman classic
I love the idea of hypnosis but for some reason I seem to be immune.
Went thru various guided hypno tracks and videos, nothing seems to have an effect.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
Willing to do any challenge you'll throw at me
>>7496208
Part of the trick is wanting to be hypnotized. If your brain is wide awake and resisting (consciously or not), no amount of work will put you under. On the upside, nobody is actually "immune to hypnosis"--if you've ever "gone on autopilot" during a monotonous task, then you've experienced a trance state.
>>7496215
Do you have any tips to help going under and into trance?
>>7496713
Trust is a big one. You have to trust the person putting you under or your subconscious is going to resist anything they say. In terms of actually going under, you can't force it. Trying to relax is a bit of a paradox--just let your mind wander and let the words/sounds/whatever wash over you and take you wherever they want. I have no guarantees, since every subject is different, but that's what helps me.
>>7496759
Building on this, assuming you're listening to an audio recording you can just listen to it normally once, so you know what's in it. At that point there's no need to have any doubts because you know what suggestions you'll receive. Nothing's more trustworthy than a recording.
Additionally, I find you have to "try" to make some of the suggestions work sometimes, by either imagining them working or just focusing on the body part they're supposed to effect. Some people just assume they can put on a hypnosis track and zone out, and they spend the whole time thinking about something else and it's pointless. At the very least, you need to try to devote all your attention to the track. The more focused you are the more likely the suggestion will take.
What does /d/ think of hypnosis BE?
>>7458332
how does one even start? I've always been interested in trying but have no idea how to.
>>7497283
Fucking buckets man.
Got any more?
>>7496208
Try not to over-analyze what the 'tist is saying to you in the track. /t/ has a hypno-general by the way for mp3 hypnosis. It's a slow board but pretty helpful and lots of downloads.
>>7497376
I hammered myself with a couple suggestions (repeat mantra for a few hours while visualising the situation to trigger them) so I stopped forgetting to do a few things; it worked splendidly, but completely lacks anything sexy.
Probably because the suggestions weren't sexy to begin with, but I'm not about to make myself do anything lewd in public, so... yeah.
>>7496215
I know, I've been there. What I mean to say is the suggestions don't seem to have much of an effect.
There's a great site that teaches you how to enter trance almost on a whim. Helped me a lot tho I'm still not very suggestible
>http://interactivehypnosis.com/Induction.html
>>7485248
Yeah but compare it to the guy in the date manga. I think this is perfectly fine here
>>7491535
And this still hasn't been translated either. What a shame
>>7499069
Well, we got those, at least.
>>7499069
Got a link to the original at least?
>>7499394
https://e-hentai.org/g/380249/5c450b767e/
Kouzuki's got plenty of untranslated goodies.
>>7499404
Thank you friend.
Damn, what a fucking sleazebag and loser that main guy is. Definitely doesn't deserve his hypnotized qt. Why is it so rare to just have a more normal, decent guy as MC...
>>7497283
>>7497702
>Socially awkward young man with hypnotic eyes, hidden by messy bangs
>Every time he makes eye contact with a girl, she falls for him
>It starts small, but builds up more and more until she's madly addicted to the very idea of him and willing to do anything he wants
>Not only that, but the more he denies her and doesn't act as her master/lover, the more her body changes to try and attract him (he could also order her to change, if he thought to do it)
>The small number of girls he accidentally charms start trying more and more things to make him happy and love/command them, including arranging for other girls to 'realise' how amazing their master is
Thoughts?
>>7499767
Fucking hot. Let's make it happen.
>>7499767
There was a doujin posted here which was kind of the same, except that it was a hypnotic voice instead of hypnotic eyes. And no BE.
>>7499775
On it.
Wait... Make it happen how? I can't art that. I might be able to write it, but I have other stuff I need to work on and my work ethic is terrible... I'd probably never finish it... I could still try, if you really want.
>>7499779
Really? Sweet!
>No BE
Well then what even is the point? I'm kidding, I'm kidding. What was it?
>>7499796
I don't remember the name, maybe the person who posted it can tell if he reads this. It was about a high schooler who everyone thought he was mute. But actually his voice was just super hypnotic, and when some girls goad him into using his voice, he ends up hypnotizing them into sex slaves. Or something to that extent.
It was a series of sorts, there were stories where other people had a similar power too.
>>7500086
>>7500088
Artist mentioned hypnosis.
>>7500095
Lewd
>>7500101
>>7500107
>>7500635
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1117988
>>7499767
I love it. Only thing that would make it better is if they somehow start reading subtle cues from him to learn what his kinks are or what would turn him on in that moment like, for example, think they are a horny kitten and rub themselves against him while purring in his ear all because he was eyeing some cat girl maid from a magazine or something
>>7501046
This.
>>7464835
As a femanon with a hypno fetish, I LOVE the direction things are going with gross fat dudes. Makes it that much hotter.
>>7501415
Why is that? Is it because you love being degraded and humiliated, and a gross fat dude will make that feeling worse?
Anyone have the headpat blowjob!?
>>7501589
never heard of it but now I need to see it
>>7499809
Emperor's Voice or something. I can't remember the exact title because my porn hdd crashed.
>>7501415
https://exhentai.org/g/1045582/80d7bc233e/
>>7494166
decensored and higher resolution
>>7494006
I'm not sure exactly since I'm pretty new to this, I'm really just a genuine and curious person.
>>7501742
Maybe you could lurk, or even post in /soc/ . Because as much as I'd want to, contactfagging is frowned upon here. There are, for example, fetish threads, where you can probably find what you're looking for.
And I'm one of those hypnotists lurking on /soc/ occasionally, so who knows. If it ends up that we by chance contact each other, then I'll be sure to tell you whatever you want to know.
>>7501589
>>7501593
This what you wanted?
>>7497376
https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Yourself-Self-Hypnosis-Frank-Caprio/dp/0735200041
>>7501962
Yep thanks
Pls help
Im looking for hentai/manga where the girl is mindless and not concious of her actions. The more humiliating for her (like bowing down,kissing foot) the better
pic related, as closest to that as possible
>>7502176
When you say "Mindless and not concious of her actions" do you mean #2 (Mindless slave) or #3 (Unaware of being controlled)?
There's more of 3 than 2. I'm not sure how your picture related to either though, it looks like a total personality rewrite, which is something else entirely.
>>7458332
>7458332
Yes, It's pretty great stress relief. Base part of hypnotism is meditation. learning to clear your mind of all though. Second phase is to go even deeper where you can be a completely blank slate for the hypnotist. Finally they build a scene with you.
If done right that scene is your entire existence for a bit, enough to might as well be real.
I go from "I hate you" to "Fuck me!!!!1" naturally. Usually, you just have to give me a piece of pie or something.
>>7504438
Hatesnog pie ?
>>7502939
In your pic, I mean number 2.
And yeah that pic is personality rewrite but she becomes a slave
Pic related
>>7504824
Alright, here's a few then.
https://exhentai.org/g/1023829/d4d682916e/
Futa on female. She's literally asleep, but in a hypnotic state where she mindlessly obeys all commands, should be pretty close to what you want.
https://exhentai.org/g/997675/e713a2a7f1/
Male on Female. Starts off #2, transitions to #3 in the second half.
https://exhentai.org/g/327279/32c5f9654d/
This one isn't mindless, but it is slave mentality. I figured based on your picture it was pretty close to your tastes.
https://exhentai.org/g/594044/9a04f7fde2/
Son on mother incest. Mindless/petplay.
https://exhentai.org/g/783236/9af020f76a/
Male on female. Mostly #2.
https://exhentai.org/g/840375/ce704f5286/
Male on loli. Contains mindless and personality rewrite, ending with body control
https://exhentai.org/g/889673/28fae86427/
Male on female. A showcase of different MC types, featuring accidental, mindless, oblivious, love and fear.
https://exhentai.org/g/938187/587e94e08a/
Male on female. Lots of mindless and slave sex.
>>7504881
Thanks a lot, havent read them yet because a sad panda appears and Im trying to work around that. but the descriptions sound what Im after
>>7505224
Follow ←.
The first step is enough for all but #840375 and #938187, which are genuinely exh-only.
Use the second step for those.
>>7505252
Thanks just read them all. The mom/son was my favourite even though I dont like incest usually. But the concept was great
>>7505383
Yeah, the Mom is My Bitch and Mom is My Doll are some of the best in the genre, despite the incest.
>>7502939
There's far too little of number 3.
Or do I just suck at looking for it?
>>7506279
When in doubt, assume you suck.
>>7482109
listen to this beforehand http://www.vivehypnosis.de/?p=4662
>>7507124
>male voice
DISGUSTING!!!!!!!
>>7507141
i hate his voice too but hes the best in terms of free hypnosis files
>>7507162
I absoloutely can't stand any male voices for that kind of thing. Even a speach program would be better.
>>7464835
I'm a guy who almost exclusively enjoys femdom hypnosis stuff (on the gentle side) - maledom is usually petty, mean, and not very interesting at all. However, I can appreciate maledom hypnosis as long as the protagonist isn't some variation of a complete dickwad, which is what most maledom hypnosis stories are. Either they're misogynistic shut-ins with no moral compass, fat/ugly/old guys, ultra-smug omnipotent sadists, or all of the above. I don't personally enjoy any of that.
What makes a good maledom hypnosis protagonist to me is if the guy's life is boring or just shit. Give me a regular guy who basically tries to be a good person, but has a terrible job or a terrible school life or some other sort of oppressive hardship. That way, the acquisition of power feels like an equalizer. Now, this aspect is what a lot of maledom stories get right, but they miss out on my next requirement: when he does finally achieve the ability to hypnotize people, he has some actual moral qualms about it instead of just running wild and making Thomas Hobbes give a thumbs-up from beyond the grave. And it would be even better if the author could write the hypnosis in a way that doesn't just make it rape with fancy wallpaper.
I think what I just described sort of negates the aspects of hypnosis that most people find erotic; male hypnofetishists tend to enjoy the morality free power/revenge fantasy, and female hypnofetishists tend to enjoy the idea of being completely degraded and mindbroken as hard as possible. Personally, I find that power dynamic completely boring, and I can't get invested in a situation where one party is a terrible person and the other party is a lifeless automaton, much less get turned on by it. I don't know, maybe that makes me some kind of fag, but that's how I feel.
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Of all of Frombeyond's manips, you had to pick the worst one.