Slavery Thread

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>>7328029
Forgot the link to the pastebin archive.
Link: http://pastebin.com/ir1QM5sr

So what's everyone's preferred level of willingness with slaves? I like devout, proactively seeking ways to please you.

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Reposting from last thread.

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Your slavegirl confesses to you that the reason she is depressed is because she really misses her old friends from when she was free.

Wat do?

>>7328087
I like the idea of fear so intense that it debilitates her, and so she is neither willing nor unwilling, just frozen up or trembling when I'm near.

>>7328134
Buy the third and re-enact Django Unchained

>>7328148
Enslave all her old friends, of course.

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>>7324968
> is a volunteer that signed up for a five year term with the shop, conferring to them the rights to sell her for that duration, in order to live out a long-held fetishistic fantasy
>brain scan show that this is due to a mix of excitement and fear

This is so much me both in the its something I've wanted to do for a long time and the being both excited and a bit of fear while for sale at the market. Who will buy me and what they will order me to do over those next few years.

>>7328148
Real answer - I would organize playdates for her with other slaves, NOT her old friends. I would also try to organize loanouts so she will help out my friends with things (not sexual) so she's being kept busy more of the time.

I prefer to keep my slaves firmly in their place but happy and healthy. My slaves won't be suffering under the burden of their bondage, but rather allowed to flourish as my subordinates.

In other words, I want their chains to be a comfort rather than a burden.

>>7328134
Buy number 2 and get onto hypnosis, make her sign on for life.

>>7328148
I'd probably let her see her friends, dressed as modestly as she wants, as a reward for being a good slavegirl. That way she can have something nice to look forward to every month or so, but only if she's devoted enough.

>>7328134
A girl that bites noses off is cool by my book. Buy and free.

>>7328171
You're my kind of guy.

>>7326530
>From the thumbnail, I thought it was a girl whose upper body and head was in a plastic casing, with her legs extending out of the casing, in what appeared like some kind of latex suit (which I imagined would be crotchless).
>Now I want to see this and it doesn't exist. Damn my mind, reverse engineering public use settings out of pliers.

I imagined a slavegirl with her upper body fastened to one of those cardboard-label things.

>>7328087
Some of the smut I've written aside I prefer a slave who was willing to be enslaved and accepted that things could get rough, and that they won't have a way out unless their dominant partner (or partners) decides. Escalating or backing off is entirely at the option of the dominant as is the setting of limits, the slave can only hope the dominant doesn't escalate beyond what they can handle. And that ties in to how I prefer the dominant - they can be completely merciless, go ridiculously far, but their goal is to train and build the slave into something they want. They value the slave and will support them and comfort them, but they will never show mercy - if they back off it's because they see the slave really can't handle things, they'll help the slave recover and train them and go even further another time.
Of course that pretty much presupposes captivity, a relationship where the slave has more freedom will have to be a lot more careful and even gentle, barring maybe some sort of blackmail scenario.

>>7328148
beatings until morale improves

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>>7328087

I like the idea of having multiple slaves, each with varying degrees of willingness and loyalty. Some of them would be so unwilling that they would need to be kept chained and gagged all day (for our purposes here, we'll call these "captives"), others would be trusted enough to be given some autonomy, and so on, but one girl (can't quite decide what to call her, but let's just call her "Pet" for now) would be 100% committed to my pleasure (even if that means great pain on her part), and thinks of little (if anything) else. As such, Pet is able to give orders to other slaves, mete out punishments, and domme them into servicing me. She is subservient but not mindless, and always looking for new ways to satisfy me. Above all, Pet is not jealous: she might flog a captive in front of me while another slave sucks me off, or she might surprise me one night and leave a handful of captives bound and blindfolded in my room and not even be present herself (unless I call for her).

(basically I can't make up my mind which level I prefer, so I'm creating a whole elaborate scenario to justify it)

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May as well repost this here then, though in a bit of rephrase way:
After playing around with some Skyrim mods recently where the female version of the Dragonborn (or "the chosen one" for those unfamiliar to the series) can start out as a slave and, provided enough tinkering, you can basically be stuck most of the time looking something like pic related while still being expected to save the world.

It made me think of scenarios where instead "slaves" are heroines chosen to go on a quest/adventure in skimpy/restraining outfits and having to endure a very ritualized BDSM version of it all.
There is no other kind of slavery, but rather people chosen to become the "guardians".

Incidentally, while I mention Skyrim and its mods, I also like the idea of some futuristic VR allowing for someone ending up in such a quest line/such a type of game, by mistake or by choice and being stuck inside the game until they beat it.

>>7329265
I like the idea of a world in which there are certain "chosen women" who are born with exceptional power. They are able to use magic and have incredible physical abilities. Society puts heavy bondage on all these girls, encumbering them severely, because of an ancient prophecy that dictated that the savior of the world would be bound so.

These chosen women would have to give their all, knowing that they will not be free of their bondage until they are victorious.

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>>7328148
Buy her a friend, and knock her up?
And then maybe let her see her friends for a bit.

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>>7328134

So the first and third girl are purchases, but second and fourth are just a lease? Honestly, the rental is probably the better bargain. This is a luxury item which I will grow tired of over time, and will depreciate in value at roughly the same rate, all the while costing me money for her upkeep.

I'll go with the second girl. 5 years is a little long for my tastes, but 18 months is just ridiculous when you factor in all the time and money you'd have to sink into training and educating girl #4. Plus I'm assuming that I could sell her back to the shop at a trade-in price if I got sick of her.

>>7328171
...get yourself and your entire family killed by her husband?

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Red heads make the best slaves.

>>7328508
Youd need a world with peasantry and slavery. Any girl with 20 years of freedom would suicide at her first chance.

Kinda like a 2050 nuclear holocaust and a following generation if ceasers legion would be needed. Then they might be indoctrinated on average enough to be okay with this.

>>7330103
>Youd need a world with peasantry and slavery. Any girl with 20 years of freedom would suicide at her first chance.

Eh, you'd be surprised what people can handle. Some people just wouldn't try to kill themselves unless you brutally tortured them. They'd try to kill you, though.

It's mostly an expectations thing. If slavery exists in their life, they may expect they might be enslaved. They won't like it, in fact they may hate it, but when evil becomes routine, it becomes bearable, too (to some degree, anyway).

>>7330327
I think itd be important to let them become the apotheosis of their experiences, avenge their life et cetera. Balancing that and keeping them in their place could be tough.

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>>7329054
Do you happen to know any smut with this setting? I'd be very interested in reading it. Either perspective is fine, though I prefer it from the sub's side.

>>7330569
Can't really recall anything specific, I've only done short bits in these threads when I've felt the inspiration.

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>>7329331
Not only that, it may be that the power only manifests once they have been restrained. They may be more exposed to physical attacks but potentially unlock magical/mystical powers.

Also, it creates a different dynamic as they may not necessarily have a master yet not really free.

>>7330792
>The power only manifests once they've been restrained

That could work. A psychic power that grows stronger when its user (or the powers itself?) senses they're in danger. Hell, if you want to make it more extreme, pain could also make them stronger, so the hero would be exposed to (non-injuring) pain quite a bit as part pf her journey/training

>>7328508
This is exactly what abusers do. I hope your dreams never come to fruition.

>>7332037

Not quite. If you fit it just right, their body never gets used to the feeling of wearing it. It cuts in just enough when they swallow or turn their head to remind them who they belong to and it's that constant reminder that keeps them docile.

>>7332037
This is a sex slavery fantasy buddy. We're all fantasising about abusing people.

>>7332043
Stolen from New Vegas. Legion.

>>7332080
I'm not.
Well, some of my fantasies are insanely abusive but when I think of things I could actually do from either perspective I'm more into a physically pretty rough but essentially loving 24/7 relationship.

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Is the Anon from the last thread who wrote the ponygirl stuff still around? That was some hot stuff

What are your favorite methods of slave training anons?
Mine is controlling a slave's bathroom use.

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>>7332176
Are you sure you're not conflating what someone fantasises about with what they think it'd be right to do? I'm sure most of us find slavery morally reprehensible, but the reason we post in these threads is not philosophical. It has to do with our primary urges, which we don't reflectively endorse as a principle of action towards other persons, and don't need to in order to sprinkle fetish fuel all over them.

I mean, I can fantasise about cutting someone's limbs off , blinding, muting and defeaning them and keeping them as a helpless fuckpillow, without ultimately wanting, let alone willing something like that to be done. It appeals to my primary drives very strongly, so it's very satisfying to imagine it, but I don't want it on due reflection so I don't identify with these drives unless that can be reconciled with my conception of justice (so I identify with them when I'm considering what doujinshi to read, but not when I consider what I owe to other persons and what I'm owed by them)

If you have "insanely abusive" fantasies, which you don't think you would actually will, that's likely where you are situated too.

>>7332522
Keep a paintoy, or a girl that is kept in very severe conditions (permanent sensory deprivation, very heavy modification). Show her to the girl you're training, explain to her that this is what will happen to her if she doesn't try to be perfectly obedient, reassure her that you'll otherwise treat her with relative kindness and allow her some small degree of freedom, then appeal to her better judgment. Though that's closer to persuasion, not training, it can be a basis for training skills and devotion.

>>7332916
How about conditioning? I use pain as a method of conditioning.

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>>7332919
As far as I understand the consensus amongst clinical psychologists is that positive reinforcement works better than negative reinforcement because it makes the subject identify what they are rewarded for with what they want (which is satisfied as a reward and is connected with it in that way), which is to say that it confuses and reorders their hierarchy of preferences such that they think the conditioned behavior is something they want to some degree.

Negative enforcement does condition behaviour, but is less precise because it also increases the subject's stress, fear and anger which is inefficient and produces mechanic rather than organic obedience and may produce bitter disobedience (it's bad for stockholming). This works against my preferred method, too, by the way, which is founded on negative reinforcement (where the reward consists in a degree of non-interference that the slave likely takes for granted and will take some time to view as a reward, unless having gone through more restrictive or abusive masters beforehands), but then again, I enjoy fear, so...

But yeah, fear is a method of negative reinforcement as much as pain. That's what is going on with criminal punishment. Your behaviour is being conditioned right now.

>>7332954
How about using mind break as a training method?

>>7332522
I'm a big fan of imposing restrictions on a slave's speech (Particularly vocabulary restrictions). If you punish even the smallest and slightest slips (And reward them when they don't mess up), they'll eventually begin thinking according to the same rules that they speak under, and that's where the fun begins.

In general I'm a huge fan of conditioning methods designed and meant to explicitly control and direct the slave's thoughts and way of thinking. It's akin to brainwashing, but without any of the magic/handwave or complete mindlessness you tend to see in actual mind control porn

>>7332958
Do you use pain as well?

>>7332960
I'm not a fan of it. As a legitimate punishment it's ok though.

>>7332970
How about sexual humiliation?

>>7332973
I'm a huge fan of it, though whether it's applied as a reward or a punishment will vary based on the specific slave.

>>7332979
What types of sexual humiliation do you prefer?

>>7332981
Exhibitionism and dirty names are always nice, though the former isn't always suitable.

Pet play and just plain old binding the slave in a humiliating/exposed position can be fun too,

>>7332996
How about making the slave hold their piss?

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>>7332957
Depends, what kind of mindbreak?

In my view there are two kinds of mindbreak, realistically speaking, intensive and succesful conditioning (where the subject ends up internalising the rules of conduct that they are conditioned to perform under, and identifies with them as a self-expression) which is essentially more akin to corruption, and then there is breaking down a person's character and trying to build it back up. This method has been tried clinically, as startling as that might be, and has been completely discredited.

Technically what is happening is that you cause external psychological shocks to intentionally produce debilitating psychological trauma, then treat the allegedly more pliable PTSD'd subject for what you just caused, offering this treatment together with conditioning. You are more likely to end up with a slave that is either catatonic because the trauma was miscalculated or reacts frantically to very small things because everything literally triggers her (involuntary freezes, stuttering, losing balance, decreased spatial awareness -i.e. bumping in walls-, abrupt shifts in mood and unpredictable / unconscious movement). It would produce funny, not devoted slavegirls with any degree of skill.

>>7332958
>I'm a big fan of imposing restrictions on a slave's speech (Particularly vocabulary restrictions). If you punish even the smallest and slightest slips (And reward them when they don't mess up), they'll eventually begin thinking according to the same rules that they speak under, and that's where the fun begins.

I like it!

Also, and in general, an especially strong but unconventional/unexpected form of negative reinforcement with humans has to do with denying them social interaction. This means denying them verbal communication (not letting them speak, and more importantly, not addressing them) and non-verbal affection (no positive skin contact: hugs, petting, affirming non-sexual touches, eye contact). Crippling depression ensues.

>>7333014
How would realistic mind break work?

>>7332958
this reminds me of the collar
terrible ending but enthralling mind control.

>>7333014
As a general rule, when the phrase, "Crippling depression ensues" pops up in porn, it's either gonna be really damn good, or really, /really/ bad

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>>7333001
Always fun, though I don't really group it under humiliation (even though it totally belongs there).

>>7333014
>Also, and in general, an especially strong but unconventional/unexpected form of negative reinforcement with humans has to do with denying them social interaction. This means denying them verbal communication (not letting them speak, and more importantly, not addressing them) and non-verbal affection (no positive skin contact: hugs, petting, affirming non-sexual touches, eye contact)
Yeah, this is super nice too. Basically anything that reduces the slave's innate sense of independence and replaces it with conditioned obedience to and dependence on their master is a winner in my book.

>>7333021
That was probably the place where I first saw the idea, and I was instantly in love with it. Mind Control in general is a huge fetish of mine, but for purposes of this thread it's so much more interesting when it's done 'realistically' through conditioning and the like.

>>7333017
What kind of mindbreak? Like what are you trying to achieve?

It would either be operant conditioning and work as such, or it'd be PTSDing someone and trying to build them back up, which wouldn't work as such.

>>7333027
How would you make the slave hold her piss?

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>>7333014
>Also, and in general, an especially strong but unconventional/unexpected form of negative reinforcement with humans has to do with denying them social interaction. This means denying them verbal communication (not letting them speak, and more importantly, not addressing them) and non-verbal affection (no positive skin contact: hugs, petting, affirming non-sexual touches, eye contact). Crippling depression ensues.

oh god. please just stop!

>>7333032
I would go with operant conditioning.

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>>7333033
Easiest way offhand would be a catheter, which would give you complete control of both sides of that one. Ideally, she would be well enough trained (or innately submissive/obedient) before the rule is imposed to at least try to hold it herself, simply because you demand it of her.

The big problem with the concept is that outside of fantasy land, I'm pretty sure it's just straight unhealthy to make somebody hold it for too long.

>>7333059
How about making the slave wear a diaper?

>>7332037
Where do you think you are?

I mean, holy shit. This is a thread about slavery.

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>>7333034
Good girls get pats, bad girls get alone time.

>>7333036
Operant conditioning works on the principle that punishments a) can decrease or eliminate a behaviour but can not increase preferred behaviours or delineate what those are and when positive and sharp, punishments don't allow her to internalize the code of conduct as a self-expression. Punishments consisting in withholding positive reinforcement work because she becomes used to not performing these actions in order to be rewarded.

2. Rewards cause the subject to connect a behaviour with something she likes and ultimately think of it as something she likes doing. This works by adding rewards when the subject performs the conditioned behaviour and simply withholding them when she doesn't. It can also work by removing punishments (for instance, if sleep deprivation is a constant, and you allow her to sleep more because she was a good girl).

Within power relations this causes stockholming too, because where the subject feels fragile and powerless, it acutely feels that bad things can happen to them, expects them and takes it for granted that they will happen to her, thereby considering them not happening to her as a personal favor to her by the person with power over her, which causes a degree of emotional attachment.

In summary:

If you want her to do A and not do B
1. Reward doing A with things she wants
2. Remove things she doesn't want when doing A
3. Don't punish her for doing A (in 5's sense)
4.Withhold rewards (things she wants) when doing B
5. Add things she doesn't want when doing B (she does B once, you add a small constant punishment that will only be removed when she does A, rather than causing a connected sharp shock which, since it is exceptional, isn't good for the internalization process)
6. If she expects a bad thing in general (not in connection to conditioning, as a punishment or as a conditioned behavior) don't do that thing to shepherd emotional attachment

>>7333034
>>7333099
>Good girls get pats, bad girls get alone time.

Yeah, it's kinda the principle behind solitary confinement in prison.

Think about it for a second. You're locked in a building with the worst society has to offer and the most harshest punishment we give you for misbehaving, is to leave you alone in a room.

>>7333199
Of course it is. Prolonged solitary confinement is widely acknowledged to be a form of torture.

>>7333021
The collar? What's that? I mean, I imagine it's a story, but care to link?

What are some examples of operant conditioning in our current human society that we experience or can use to our favor?

>>7333986
Advertising by shame?

>>7333986
Toilet training. We reward children for using properly using the toilet to relieve themselves (with praise or treats or whatever). For the most part children aren't actively punished for not using the toilet, but they are reminded or lightly reprimanded that from now on they will have to use the toilet to relieve themselves.

>>7332958
Be my master? :D Always wanted someone like this c:

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>>7331171
>That could work. A psychic power that grows stronger when its user (or the powers itself?) senses they're in danger. Hell, if you want to make it more extreme, pain could also make them stronger, so the hero would be exposed to (non-injuring) pain quite a bit as part pf her journey/training
I was thinking it more akin to some RPG systems assuming that you can tap into your inner magic (or even tapping into nature) by blindfolding yourself, but taking it to the next level.

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>>7334274
Or perhaps go all the way and have something like this. Full bondage that she's expected to fight in.

Perhaps you could make it so her weapons are wielded on her legs (with no ankle chain so she can actually move). Her abilities make her a strong fighter even gimped so heavily, and she might have a handler who could control the deployment of her weapons.

Also you could go all the way and make it so in order to recharge her mana, she needs to have sex (and be creampied). Perhaps this energy can even be used in lieu of food, so the gag doesn't even need to come off.

Actually, when I look at this image, I imagine a world in which everyone has their own pet succubus. Food for thought.

>>7332519
Yeah, I'm here. I kind of hit writer's block, so I haven't made any progress in a little while.

>>7329265
>Incidentally, while I mention Skyrim and its mods, I also like the idea of some futuristic VR allowing for someone ending up in such a quest line/such a type of game, by mistake or by choice and being stuck inside the game until they beat it.

You know, I had similar thoughts while playing heavily modded sexed-up Skyrim. It got me thinking how incredible it would be to have that type of open-world sandboxy simulation with sexuality so thoroughly integrated into it.

I love the idea of a full-dive simulation that allows the user to configure the parameters of the world before locking them in for a preset period of time. Parameters would include things like technology level, price of slaves, who can be enslaved, how slaves are treated, etc.

I really like the idea of a scenario in which you are not saving the world, but rather taking on a personal quest of significant importance. One of the factions in the game would be bandits who are trying to capture and enslave you.

If you are defeated by the bandits, rather than a game over, you actually have to live out your slave life as the captive of the bandits.

I'm looking for a certain manga, ancient at this point, 95-07 about a son of a Yakuza boss enslaving his teacher and her daughter.

A stand-out of it was that late in the story teacher had her teeth removed for better blowjobs.

>>7333244
Ah well, at least in prison you don't get locked up in a glory hole.

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>>7334301
While I understand where you are going with this, I was thinking more along the lines of how the powers of succubi and incubi work but instead of actual sex it being fuelled by BDSM style sensations fuelling a person's magic.

For something more of a fighter/warrior I was thinking something along the lines of using extremely high heels with blades for letal kicks or something along those lines.

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>>7334348
Personally I think VR opens another metalayer to a lot of the things discussed in this thread as the game would have ways to enforce certain rules and behaviours from someone who ends up as a slave.

Additionally, it allows for the person ending up in the situation to more reasonably have chosen to end up in that situation, wanting to play out a simulation of it but it going somewhat awry and not as planned.

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>>7335790
Whoops, forgot that pic was of a male.

>>7335097
Also interested in this. Could it have been an Oyster manga?

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>>7335097
>>7336157

https://exhentai.org/g/50469/080e1e8d92/

"I cannot shout love from the bottom of the world".

The translation is p. bad but I'll never forget the ending.

>>7329246
Does Pet get special clothes to distinguish her status, I like the idea of some slaves wearing incredibly skimpy clothing, and the lower slaves who are kept naked are both envious of the clothes, whilst also apalled at how degraging those clothes are.

>>7334305
I think the problem is that the point of slavery is it barely seems to deviate from routine, so once you're done world-building you have very little to go to from there, aside scenarios where your Master is rewarding/punishing you, or you chainging owners

>>7336448
That's not really the case though. It's just reliant on interpersonal drama because you can't actually do anything actiony with slavefics.

It's honestly a really character driven genre.

Bringing back an argumant from the last thread: Is it better to dress a slavegirl in cute/humiliating outfits, or to make her go naked all the time?

>>7337299
Depends mainly on the owner's taste, after that you can consider which the slave would prefer, and if she's meant to be being punished or rewarded.

Personally I really like the idea of a slave being naked except for collar, and a ribbon tied around her thigh, which the Master can put fake money in as a reward, which can be used to ask Master's permission for something, e.g. food, wearing more clothing, an extra blanket for her cage before bed, or moving up a tier in the sleeping arrangements (downstairs cage<Master's bedroom cage<Mattress outside of Master's bedroom door<Mattress on the floor next to Master's bed<Foot of Master's bed<Next to Master)
However if Master thinks the slave is being too greedy, or not offering enough in exchange, then the Master will confiscate both whatever the slave wanted, and its money, along with potentially punishing the slave.
As a result the slave will always be ripping herself off, which will de-value what she thinks of her work

>>7336261
Thanks a lot, I've been looking for it for a while.

>>7329246
She's called your bottom bitch dude. Gotta keep that pimping lexicon strong.

>>7337299
I find completely nude slavegirls (perhaps only wearing a collar, or nothing at all) possess a great cuteness for some reason.

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>>7337308
fixed

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>>7338629
I can see that, but I still like having appropriate clothing for them, just based off of what they'll be doing, or their position in the household.

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If you had a slave girl today, beyond being just a fuck toy what else would you have her do on a day to day basis?

>>7340385
I'd probably let her study for college if she wanted to, because I'm weird and I would feel bad if I thought I'm completely wasting her life. Otherwise, I don't know,. I wouldn't trust her to cook for me. So: some chores, keeping herself clean and presentable and then she can do whatever she wants in her free time, just as long as she remains accessible for when I want to fuck her.

>>7339920
Cook's wardrobe is nothing but aprons.

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>>7340385
>house chores. cleaning windows, floors, dishes, laundry.
>100 PUSHUPS!! 100 SQUATS!! Because I like my women athletic.

>>7337299
I would place myself firmly in the clothing camp.

Honestly constant nudity just seems suboptimal. For one thing, the larger-breasted girls would quickly end up with their tits dangling in an unappealing way.

Beyond that, though, I think that clothing serves an important purpose. It can help mark the slave's role and status. It can also make for a source of punishment, as you can only punish a girl by denying her clothing if she was wearing clothing in the first place.

Personally I'm a huge fan of letting amount of concealment be a mark of status. The higher-status girls would be allowed to wear more clothing, while the lower status girls may wear what is little more than underwear. This would scale with the weather - in the winter, a low-status girl may be allowed to wear a cropped hoodie and boyshorts while in the summer she can only wear a bikini.

Most importantly, clothing is aesthetically pleasing. Maid outfits, for example, look nice, and depending on their design, can be made to be overly revealing, which in the right cultural context could be quite humiliating.

Imagine, for example, punishing disobedience by taking a few inches off a girl's skirt.

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>>7340385
Cooking, cleaning, and other duties around the house.

Plus some hobby or something, don't want her to get bored and murdery after all.

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>>7340713
image got left out

>>7340713
I don't think I'd go so far as to destroy clothing (it's too expensive to destroy like that over an infraction,) but otherwise I can agree with this entirely.

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>>7334348
Not only that but you can build on that using quests, skill trees and UI assets to "enhance" the experience by taking away options the player had before (or substituting them with slave-specific options).

More to the point, while you can have the player captured and stuck to a specific master you can also set the game in a way that they have been a "slave"(-like) job/tag/career in-game that doesn't require them to have one specific master but rather makes them subservient to the other characters in the game (be they other players or just NPCs).

You could also make specific "infiltration" quests where the player tries to go somewhere under the guise of a slave/captive and are stuck in it until they figure out how to resolve the quest or have a plot twist where they are successful but the game has tagged them as "freed/runaway slave" until they resolve a very hard follow-up quest (not limitting their movement freedom but adding severe debuffs to interactions with NPCs and access to good equipment).


Or on a different approach you could make a game that is designed for you to play as a haremgirl or a similar position where you have to balance your position in the harem trying to get higher in the pecking order against the competition (not even considering more hardcore experiences that I believe other anons could come up with)

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>>7341240
You are misunderstanding. I don't modify the clothing. I just switch out the girl's outfit to one that reflects her lower status - one that has a shorter skirt and is more generally revealing.

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>>7341464
Ah. That makes sense.

Still, motivating them with modesty seems like it'd definitely be a winner.

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>>7341759
Not for me I'd rather wear skimpy, tiny outfits as a slave. I would see being dressed modestly as the punishment.

>>7336261
I really like this one but more for the body mod stuff as I find having teeth removed pretty hot

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>>7340385
>If you had a slave girl today, beyond being just a fuck toy what else would you have her do on a day to day basis?
Chores. I would also like her to ritually worship me. But realistically I doubt I could train a person into such degrees of obedience.

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>>7328356
I enjoy putting myself in the mind of a slave owner, and that's exactly the type of slave I'd love to buy. At first I'd be stuck a fairly awkward position of not wanting to disappoint your expectations before steeling my resolve and reminding myself that you're an object belonging to me and I simply make all the decisions now. It's not a consensual BDSM scene, it's property. That is a fact I would relish in reminding you of, as well. I've recently had a recurring fantasy where I was in position where I asked or told someone to do something and the responded that they didn't want to do that (allowable, in my rules). But then I gently explain to them that that's okay, but it doesn't matter. I want them to do it, and that's good enough.

The actual tasks wouldn't be that harsh, I believe, though inhumane (an irrelevant descriptor). Mainly you'd just be serving as decoration, or a pillow, and occasionally onahole. I'd do the cooking, you'd wash the dishes. I do have some mild sadistic tendencies I'd have to work out on your (my) body but I'd certainly not be looking to cause any actual harm to you.

Rules would be fairly simple as well. Absolute silence wouldn't be enforced but I appreciate silence in general. Speak your mind as long as it is infrequent, brief, and well intentioned. No prattling on about how my day was or anything. Even when spoken to I don't expect much more of a response than a pleasant smile. With the degradation/mild sadism mentioned above I'd probably start you off sleeping on the floor and eating pet food just for the fun of it but honestly I'm a big softie at heart so I imagine your station would improve to an almost decently human level. I don't pamper my possessions but neither do I (usually) like seeing them mistreated.

I'd ask if you would be happy with my buying you but, you know. that's not actually your choice.

>>7341808
Herein lies the important crux of slave ownership, I feel.

>What should a slave wear?
Whatever its owner would prefer it wear.

>How should you punish a slave?
By giving it what it doesn't want, or removing what it wants.

There's probably no single answers.

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>>7341964
Well anon that is pretty much the kind of master I always picture when I think about my life as a slave girl.

>I'd ask if you would be happy with my buying you but, you know. that's not actually your choice.

I'd be very happy that someone wanted to buy me instead of ending up with a 75% off sale sign because I've been at the market for like a year still unsold.

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>>7340385

>only one
Anyway, beyond normal chores, I'd probably need a secretary. Does milking (on its own) count as fucktoy duty?

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>>7342001
Ahh, well unfortunately for you, heavily discounted merchandise is another of my fetishes.

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>>7342035
Well its mostly the going unsold for a long time part really. Having my soon to be owner standing in front of me with the shop clerk and haggling over how much I'm worth is something I kinda of like too

>>7342001
That real estate series still has the single weirdest euphemism I've ever seen for sex slaves.

>>7341964
pet food is awful for humans. its full of bone meal that will damage our body.

>>7342825
Being a slave is awful for humans, too.

Besides it's not like the pet food idea was anything like a long-term plan anyway. Are there any suitably degrading but safe and healthy replacements? Something like a bland gruel would maybe fit the bill for others but I think that's just a bit boring and would rather have something more dehumanizing.

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>>7342644
Yeah he changes it around a little but keeps the idea the same in these slaves are always referred to as objects instead of people.

>>7342855
The cheapest off brand stuff grocery stores sell?
Like the off brand Mr. P's pizza some places sell

To eat those you gotta be desperate, really poor, or a slave in this case

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>>7342912
That's more or less what I eat now, though, so kinda mixed feelings there.

I do think it's safe to assume that in a sex-slavery world there would be providers of a human-safe food with all the appearance and flavor of pet food, including the smell and coming in those large heavy bags.

Come to think of it, those generic bagged cereals might come pretty close to a realistic replacement, as long as it's not a sugary cereal. Pouring it out in a dish for your slave to eat on the ground would help the illusion.

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In your world, it is common to think of slaves as objects. For this reason you never address your slavegirls, except to give them orders, and expect them to only speak when this serves some important purpose. You don't usually touch them in any way that could be mistaken as non-verbal communication or affection or as acknowledging that they have a point of view, something that would be more fit to persons.

However, one day, after using one of your newer slavegirls (one that used to be a free woman some time ago) to relieve yourself and without any warning, it starterd sobbing uncontrollably and shouting that it's a person, not a thing. It's also clawing at its face in a way that might damage its appearance. It is not exactly addressing you or expecting any kind of response as much as it is having something that closely resembles a nervous breakdown.

What do you do?

>>7342999
if its not this world the only answer is confusion and then anger.

>>7342855
feed us nothing but raw onion?

>>7343003
>terrified slave-owner runs from his house screaming "it's alive, it's alive"

>>7342923
Cereal isn't nutritious at all though. Dog food actually is, and there are quality standards to ensure it's safe for human consumption in the US, because people occasionally get destitute enough to eat it.

Beans, rice and corned beef hash out of a can is actually going to be pretty healthy aside from the corned beef being full of sodium. And while beans and rice alone are palatable, canned corned beef is disgusting enough that your property would probably try to kill you.

>>7342912
Yeah. I love the consistency of the dehumaniziation in that series.

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>>7343033
Same here wished he had done more stuff in that setting I really enjoyed it.

Just like this image why did he stop with it as well

>>7342825
>>7342855
>>7342912
>>7343006
You go back to the traditional "We really, really want to see you fucking die, but we can't kill you" prisoner meal of bread and water.

You allow her actual food for good behavior.

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>>7342999

The same thing I do when my car starts making funny noises: I call up Car Talk and try to imitate the sounds its making over the phone to Click and Clack.

>>7342126
Not that it particularly matters, but are there any things you look forward to in slavehood? Either in living conditions, attitude from your owner, or tasks you would be required to do.

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>>7341759
Modesty is not an option.

The highest-class girls get to dress about like pic related (except without the tights). It's not overtly "slutty" but it's still distinctly sexualized and revealing. As the status gets lower the amount of clothing also decreases.

Personally I like the idea of an "itch" treatment on the skin of a lower-class slave that causes certain regions of her body to feel irritated by the touch of clothing. Rubbing it on a girl's legs would be used to force her to wear shorter skirts, around the midriff to force her into crop tops, etc. This would either be reversible or require periodic applications.

>>7341808
You say that now on this thread on a porn board, but historically I doubt this attitude existed toward slavery. It's one thing to imagine something like that in your fantasies and another to live it.

In a world in which your level of clothing directly correlated to your status, you would either desire more clothing or accept your lot as a low-class slave. I highly doubt that in that cultural context, you would actively desire exposure.

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>>7341363
One big issue with all that is that the status of a slave is inherently one of disempowerment, which is not conductive to good gameplay.

Honestly if you want to simulate slavery virtually like that, you're better off giving up on the game elements for the most part. After all, game mechanics inherently give the player agency, which is the antithesis of slavery.

Not all computer entertainment has to be a game. I like the idea of a simulation that embraces simulation in favor of game elements, allowing for subjects to live out their scenario as a slave but without the option of leaving it.

Maybe going multiplayer is the way to go, but that takes away the option for the slave to decide the parameters of the setting exactly.

>>7342999
frontal lobotomy

>>7342999
First: Checked

Second: I'd probably hug her and try to console her and calm her down, even though directly addressing her would probably be looked down in that world, because I'm a paternalist softie here, and I'd probably be a big softie there.

Also I was always very protective of my physical toys and felt bad when I accidentally broke them, even though I knew they weren't alive to blame me, so yeah.

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>>7343949
Having played similar experience through mods in Skyrim I have got to say that while you are right that you need to take away agency from the player it's not like you need to take away ALL agency for the illusion to work.

Granted, a multiplayer environment works better (even without micromanaging every aspect of the player at the receiving end) but you can still set it up as a set of recurring challenges and tasks to be done by the player with only a very low chance of escape (and even then a high chance of recapture).

It's not like games allow inherent agency, a lot of them are but glorified hallway puzzle simulators with cutscenes between them so the developer ultimately gets to decide how much agency they give the player.

>>7342999
I try to find out who she is, and unless there's an angle I can work she finds herself in her very own Room 101.
What's mute, hooded and gets rented out to rape clubs for weeks on end? And what would beg to go back to the rape club when I've been enjoying her?

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>>7332522
I'm not actually that into the training/breaking side of things. My fantasies, in order to maintain the basic level of internal consistency that I demand, involve a setting with two requirements. First, that slavery and slave ownership is legal and basically accepted. Second, either that I am rich enough to be relatively wasteful with my purchases or that slave girls are (even more unrealistically than the rest of the fantasy) cheap enough to be on par with a luxury item like a decent PC.

The idea is that I purchase a slave and she is aware of and understands that her position is reinforced by the government of the area we reside. There isn't a better alternative for her. I present her with reasons why she should decide to follow my commands, both in terms of rewards for good behavior and punishments when she doesn't measure up. Then she makes the decision. If she chooses not to try and accept her position then I'll still take what pleasure I can out of her then throw her away and try again with a new slave. It might be worth keeping her around long enough to show off as an example but mostly I'd just want to be rid of her as soon as possible.

>>7344791
what game is that image from?

>>7342999
What I'm more interested to know is, how do the lot of you take this?

Do you feel protective or insulted? Do you get angry or sad?

>>7345339
Frustrated and a bit disgusted, like pulling something out of the oven only to realize you fucked up the recipe somehow. I'd probably just throw it away and get take out or something.

>>7332522
Getting them young, I tend imagine slave girls are being mostly pets. This is reinforced from birth by society. Females are collared after birth and grow up walking around naked. They don't tend to think much about it because this is all they know.

The ideally a basic family unit consists of a male master (Father), one or two matriarchs (mother). Who are the pets the master breeds with and their offspring. Male children grow up free, well female children became new pets and are either sold to a male wanting a pet or kept and raised in the family. Not every man breeds his females and not every man wants a pet.

Sexual training I suppose would progress naturally and depends how open sexually a master is. Me if I'm going to use a slave pet for sex I'm using her for sex when I feel like it. I probably wouldn't hide what I'm doing from our offspring if we have any. Specially id that child is a girl, nothing wrong with doing sexual stuff with a pet around.

I like to imagine a girl seeing her mother giving a hand or blow job and asking if she can try or see her mother get fingered or ate out and asks if she can touch or lick her mother's pussy or ask to touch her. Can't tell her no because it's best to raise a pet slave with out any sexual hang ups. If she likes doing that stuff then I have another sex toy pet, if not I already have a sex toy.

Now if didn't have a sex toy pet that would be a different matter, venting my physical need is the more important then loving and caring about my pets wants. That why I like the idea of having older and younger slaves. An adult like a mother or older sister to dick and her kid or little sister to hug. The adult would do what ever I want to her out of fear of me doing something to the kid.

>>7345339
Excited at the opportunity.

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>>7345259
Not from an actual game but a mockup though the character seems inspired on some jRPG heroine.
There is a whole set based on the concept

>>7346330
Is this the only muscle one or are there anymore?

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Would you get emotionally attached to your slavegirl if you kept her long enough? Should you?

Are slaves only for abusing, or is it ok to be nice to them once in a while?

Is giving aftercare beneath a proper slave-owner? Should the proper master ever be affectionate?

I like the idea of a government that controls, runs and makes rules about how slavery works and what masters are allowed to do to their slaves. After all the government is the ultimate master. It also makes the idea of breaking the or skimming the rules fun. Like a from of denial.

In my world females are seen as and treated as pets first and servants second. I'd imagine an organization that job it is is to protect slaves from abuse and remove them if necessary, forcing masters to be cautious about what they do to their girls or hide abused slaves away.

Example as masters lot of us would use slave sexually as much as we want. I like the idea of making babies to give my self more people to control and having a fucked up family. A government would step in and be like you can't make babies willy nilly.

First: you need to be responsible enough to care the slaves you have. Because if your note they are the ones that have to come it and remove and rehome your slaves.

Second: if they can tax and regulate it they will, A government would make a master some how pay them money if a master wants to breed their slaves. A master would have to buy a breeding permit and fines for illegal pregnancies.

Third: their would people that would try to discourage masters recreational sex with slaves for slave's safety and protection. Sex feel good if you want it and hurts when you don't. Since slaves don't have legal self autonomy they can't legally consent to sex. So all sex with slaves would legally be rape. Sex for fun is classed under a from of torture and can get a slave removed.

That said there are loophole around sexual activity. No penis to vagina/anus contact. Nothing bigger then two fingers can be inserting in a vagina. No vibrators to force orgasms. Master can touch nipples, clit and anus with their hands. Slave can touch a master and give hand and blow jobs. Slaves can be told to dry hump things as long as it wont cause physical harm.

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>>7346494
If you don't want them to kill you, being nice on occasion, and in general working to induce Stockholm syndrome is generally beneficial.

So yes to the last three, if you're in close contact.
Emotional attachment is kinda just going to happen anyway. People get attached to a good pair of workboots FFS, never mind something they keep as long as you would a slave (like a car or a house.)

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>>7346494
>Would you get emotionally attached to your slavegirl if you kept her long enough?
We get attached to dogs and they're not even the same species. So... probably.

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>>7346494
>Would you get emotionally attached to your slavegirl if you kept her long enough? Should you?

Yes that goes with out saying we get attached to anything we keep and use a lot

> or is it ok to be nice to them once in a while?

Sure just like with your dog or cat if your nice to them they are much more attentive and far more loyal to you than if your just an asshole to them all the time. And this kind of loyalty is far better in every way than the beat them into submission way.

>Is giving aftercare beneath a proper slave-owner? Should the proper master ever be affectionate?

Just like with your stuff you have now if you take care of it it will last you a life time and keep working like new for a very long time. Instead of being rough with it and it breaks in a year or less. Doing after care and showing affection will always end up with you having a better slave

>>7346494
My serious answer is that there's no way you're not going to get emotionally attached, and your primary mode of treatment for a slave that is being used for anything other than drudge labor should be kindness and mercy.

I imagine a world where slave girls are more like pets except with sex involved. A companion needs to be treated with tenderness.

Now if all you're looking for is a high-end fleshlight, it really doesn't matter. If you're into more extreme scenarios, if you're imagining a world in which slave girls are purely used for fucking and not for companionship, they're really just particularly fancy sex toys and you should really just use them and abuse them. Perhaps even keep them in strict indefinite bondage, and keep them blinded and deafened or even paralyzed. That's not my preferred scenario though.

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>>7346495
I've had ideas along that vein before.

The way I imagined it was more along the lines of the setting of the Apprentice Adept series by Piers Anthony.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apprentice_Adept#Proton

(anything I describe from here on out is my setting, not Piers Anthony's, though I acknowledge his influence)

Basically it would be a world in which the slaves/serfs (will use the former term in the spirit of this thread) do not have a close personal relationship with their owners, but rather are simply their property and are expected to labor in their service, perhaps without even ever meeting them.

Owners would have immense latitude - slaves would be unable to own property of any sort, and any of a slave's possessions or acquisitions are considered the property of the slave's owner - unconditionally. Legally speaking even the slave's hair and skin is property, and an owner can dictate how it is maintained.

Of course, because of this impersonal relationship and the inequality of power, the owner would have to set up a way to manage his slaves. After all, he can't be expected to personally handle every issue. He might use free employees and set up a system for the slaves to request special permissions.

However, what interests me the most is how relationships between slaves are governed.

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One of the key features of this system is that it means slaves are administrated over by a bureaucracy. They don't have direct contact with their master, and have to pass through several layers to get to him for permission.

In the scenario I imagine the owner strictly controls the slaves' sexualities. In other words, any expression of sexuality is subject to his rules and regulations. Sex and even masturbation is strictly forbidden, as the master wishes to have control over his property.

In other words, if you're one of these slaves, if you find someone you love, you have to fill out a form and send it in. You may have to plead your case with a bored bureaucrat, asking for permission to have sex. You will probably have to wait several days for any sort of response.

Humanity's most impulsive and emotional activity would be subjugated by its exact opposite - the inertia of bureaucracy.

Perhaps even chastity belts would be used to govern this. If you wanted to masturbate, you'd have to fill out a form and explain that you wanted to.

And this isn't even getting into the part where the owner can have two slaves breed at his command, forcing them to have sex in order to give birth to a child that will be his property.

>>7346494
I've very likely care for her wellbeing beyond what's necessary for my personal satisfaction. I would care for her as a person, not merely a toy. Granted, as a person I own and control for personal pleasure, not as a person that stands on equal grounds with me. But not as a mere thing, either. I would only bully her for recreational purposes, not all of the time, and then I'd give her some psychological support so that she doesn't get depressed. That way she knows that while her master enjoys hurting her, or putting her in prolonged predicaments (perhaps keeping her in sensory deprivation for extended periods of time), this would eventually end and she'll be allowed to rest, and given aftercare and affection. I think we could strike a nice psychological balance that way.

So I'd be attached to her at a personal level, I'd care for her thoughts even, and have conversations with her (though not to the detriment of our happy fun time).

Slaves are both for abusing and being nice to and these two can be brought together without either being a sham.

>>7347533
>>7347537
Sounds more owner controlled them government,

I like the irony of the bureau that regulates slavery is ran by people of the section of population. In my world most females grow up as pets to men. The bureau is kind of independent like a humane society for slaves with some government backing in areas like law enforcement.

The slave bureau is ran by elderly women who basically retired from the slave life. The bureau has buildings where it's encouraged that owners let their pets go to that act like education centers for females. Females who don't go tend to be not to as well educated if at all.

Men are free to buy and sell females among them selves with a using titles of ownership. females born under a man that owns their mother owns that child. Unowned and unwanted female are sent to a pound facility they are ether sold and rehomed or retired

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Do any mangas exist where you have a SoL type series in a setting where slavery is a common thing?

>>7347960
>Sounds more owner controlled them government
In a feudal system the landowner essentially governs his land, though he's still subject to a higher government.

>>7346330
Do you know the artist's name? Can't for the life of me find it.

>>7349433
I guess I tend to imagine a more modern style government.

>>7349973

http://nijie.info/members_illust.php?id=6667

>>7348469
I don't know of any other but Death March.

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>>7350655
Forgot about that manga meant to check it out a while back and forgot about it.

>>7351058

Don't bother. It's really terrible, even by the standards of the "I'm an ordinary dude reborn into another world with cheat powers" genre.

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>>7352467
It wasn't that bad I read the first 7 chapters last night. Reminds me a bit of Overlord just not as much fun as the MC isn't having to go to any real lenghts to hide his max stats.

But remembered one I had read a couple of chapters and forgot about

Isekai Maou to Shoukan Shoujo Dorei Majutsu

Then I came across a new one as well

Isekai Shihai no Skill Taker

From what little I skimmed over it looked a bit like a comedy manga with slave girls more than anything

>>7333059
Catheters allow for free flow of urine, you can't hold it back willingly.

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>>7352539

>It wasn't that bad I read the first 7 chapters last night. Reminds me a bit of Overlord just not as much fun as the MC isn't having to go to any real lenghts to hide his max stats.

Which makes it nothing like Overlord. Overlord still manages to have conflict and drama even though it's a given that the protagonist is going to win every fight, because his ambitions are a lot greater than simply "living easy". His broken stats don't let him come up with perfect plans, or govern wisely, or see through people.

And the writing and dialogue...I do love Isekai power fantasy stories and I've built up a tolerance for bad writing because of it but jesus. Even I have my limits.

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>>7352582
That might have came out wrong or the comparison just doesn't work as well as I think it does. Its like OL in the sense of guy with max stats trying to hide and appear weak. Yet hasn't thought of the idea of becoming the batman when he wants to use his attacks.

>And the writing and dialogue...I do love Isekai power fantasy stories and I've built up a tolerance for bad writing because of it but jesus. Even I have my limits

I've only read 7 chapters so for me it hasn't had time to go to shit yet. But I can already easily see what you are talking about just form what I've read of it. Well no matter how shit it goes at least I know it will never be able to be as bad as
Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei.
Or maybe I just have a higher level of tolerance for bad writing and BS

>>7333033
Jeans with a locking belt.

Bump for pics where slaves are forced to have the babies of monsters.

>>7354230
If you want to see it, post it yourself.

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>>7342999
I actually sometimes imagine what it would be like to be the slave in a setting like you describe.

>In your world, it is common to think of slaves as objects. For this reason you never address your slavegirls, except to give them orders, and expect them to only speak when this serves some important purpose. You don't usually touch them in any way that could be mistaken as non-verbal communication or affection or as acknowledging that they have a point of view, something that would be more fit to persons.

This setting isn't just humiliating for the slaves - it's oppressive. The slaves aren't even allowed something as simple as communication. Imagine being in a household of half a dozen slaves, yet you don't actually know anything about the others except their names. This is because slaves are only allowed to speak for important purposes, and a social conversation between slaves can never qualify as an "important purpose". Despite being surrounded by your peers, you are in solitude.

You must live knowing that your only purpose for the remainder of your life will be to execute your owner's orders. You will never be permitted to have your own hopes and dreams and desires, but rather, you will toil in service without being allowed to pursue happiness of your own.

How would such a life be like? I imagine that such a setting would be futuristic and implement some sort of implant that prevents suicide, trapping the slaves in their oppressive lives.

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>>7346330
There's something really humiliating about the idea of having one's own self broken down into "stats" like that. Imagine having to stand next to a placard that lists, for example, the tightness of your pussy and ass and ranking you compared to other slaves.

>>7328148
Resources allowing, I let her choose one of her friends to become enslaved with her.

But she has to assist in their training and suffer whatever punishments they receive.

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>>7355564
That's a nice way to break both. Really seems like it'd be fun to do.

Picture probably unrelated.

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Am i the only one that likes Forniphlia?

The idea of turning people into what is essentially furniture is really damn attractive to me, i mean, slavery and petplay is still pretty damn degrading but being forced or convinced to live as just an common object with no life seems incredibly degrading, even more than petplay, at least with petplay, the slaves can still move, with human furniture play, they have to just sit there and hope their master uses them.

>>7356678
I always did love this image. The treatment of women as little more than objects is very exciting.

>>7356677
Not a huge fan, but that image is top tier.
I see chairs and tables all the time, but being reduced to a hat rack? That's new and cruel in it's own way.
The mirror for the table is also a nice touch.
Source?

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>>7350655

Reading more of Death March once it goes back to the SoL parts it got back to what I wanted SoL with slave girls. They even bring in a loli slave girl who has the mind of a 16-30 year old Japanese girl. After she's bought by the MC she tries and fails to get master to fuck her even attempts to use mind control magic on him to no effect. The story is average but the author knows what he wants in his slave girls fetish

>>7329265
Imagining the frustration of the dragonborn having to waddle around in arm restrains and a spreader bar, trying to shout through a gag while also being incredibly horny.

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>>7357615
That's what I've wanted Skyrim to be whenever I mod it up. Unfortunately I never learn from my mistakes and always end up with a setup that's just too unstable to play for more than half an hour.

Anyway, Prison Overhaul is pretty great. I also love the Alternate start sub-mod that lets you start as a slave, even though I always die in the first 10 minutes because it's hard to fight when you have high heels locked on you that prevent you from running and and you're gagged and your hands bound and locked into a chastity belt with a vibrator...

If only I could get the setup running stable.

>>7355564
I see some of you guys mention bringing in some of her old friends, and I'm not sure that's the best solution. We have no guarantee that any of her friends will even be receptive to enslavement, and even if we do manage to get one enslaved it may be a bad thing, as it links her to her past life.

Better to replace her friends with new slave friends.

>>7357643
It's really too bad how little content there is for your followers/NPCs with those mods. I want to run around WITH a slave, not BE one.

>>7345073
You do know that Isis sells slaves at like ~100 USD? They'd be very cheap in a setting where it's accepted

>>7358294

The price of a slave is cheaper right now than it has ever been in human history.

For reference, a good slave during the height of the Roman empire would set you back about 2,000 denarii, in a time when slave-taking was common and the average soldiers' wage was 100-something denarii per year.

Like every commodity, it's always about supply and demand

>>7357601

I object to him naming the dog-girl and cat-girl the Japanese equivalent of "Spot" and "Kitty". It's terrible on multiple levels.

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My primary slave fantasies include making a girl lose bladder control.

Any advice for a femanon who wants to play more of the slave role but with a conservative boyfriend who has no interest in being a master?

>>7358713
Tempt him, tease him, appeal to whatever fetishes he has.

>>7346494
Of course i would get emotionally attached to a slavegirl, people get attached to non-living things, much less an actual person, it's just something that will happen.

As for being nice or not, well unless one abuses a slave so much that they give up on anything or brainwash them as they abuse them, treating a slave badly all the time is bound to make her snap or run away, besides, slaves learn better with a mixture of caring and domination, you can't be nice all the time but you also can't be awful all the time, if you want your slaves to do the best job they can, you will have to be both.

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>>7328029
made a stereoscopic version, hope you like it
(if this seems confusing, cross your eyes and focus on the middle image, it'll look three-dimensional)

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>>7358797
anon, you are doing gods work. Thank you.

>>7358809
thanks anon, I'm glad you like it

>>7358797
How in the hell... Anon are you a wizard?

>>7358824
it's actually quite simple once you get the hang of it, you make a depth map in photoshop. there's tons of tutorials on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXekBKEqPu8
took me a few tries to get this one right but eventually it worked out

>>7358832
I bet it would look even better if I could cross my eyes. My left eye is always stuck looking forward.

>>7358713
Kneel a lot, I guess.

Like find excuses to be on your knees around him.

>>7358713

If he doesn't have the energy or desire, there's no point. Becoming a master is not something inherent to everyone.

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>>7358402
Yeah I just stopped reading for a moment and ask the screen really dude? thats the best you can do your not even trying. At the very lest call the catgirl Luna and the dog girl Milly or something. Anything is better than most generic pet names on the planet. While with the lizard girl even though he cheaped out with her too at list Liza is a real name.

>>7358463

I find that is always a good way to use as punishment. Make them piss all over their clothes don't allow them to change them or even clean up their legs then send them to town on their daily shopping trip.

>>7358793
But the question everyone seems to be jumping around is: Would you be nice or less cruel to your slavegirl *because* you've become emotionally attached to her and grown to care about her?

Will you fall for your slavegirl anons? Or will you calously resell her after some time when you get bored? Be honest

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>>7358713
>Any advice for a femanon who wants to play more of the slave role but with a conservative boyfriend who has no interest in being a master?
Reinforce his conservative ideals until they degrade back into the 1800s. Then you practically are his slave.
On a more serious note, if the person doesn't find the idea appealing then there is not much you can do. I would recommend to just do all the tasks you would like to be ordered to do without receiving the order to do it in the first place, but I can imagine that it wouldn't help with that itch.

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Any other anon here with an interest in femdom slavery? Like to imagine genderequal slavetrade, women as the only slaveowners or even a complete matriarchal world order in which males are owned and used as nothing more than breeding pigs and labor slaves?

>>7357601
Give a link, I actually can't find it.

>>7358713
Obviously the best way to go about it is to actually talk to him about it, instead of hoping he'll magically get what you want. Talk about Ds play, not sex slave roleplay to not frighten him.

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>>7359113
http://mangapark.me/manga/death-march-kara-hajimaru-isekai-kyousoukyoku-ainana-hiro

>>7359142
Thanks!

>>7358713
Call him a liberal or a cuck.

>>7356678
Logan ruined this one for me.

>>7359830
>Logan ruined this one for me.
Don't you mean this one ruined Logan for you?

>>7359101

Thank you and everyone else for replying to my question!

That is pretty much what I already do, its hard when you have the heart of a slave but no one who wants to capitalize on it, but I make do by just trying to please him in every arena without being asked and just try to take pride in the fact that I am meeting all his needs. I have tried to talk to him about it, even on the lighter side that whole world seems degenerate to him. And i will respect that. As long as he's happy right? That's all a good slave should care about, even if its not commanded of her.

>>7360349
>even on the lighter side that whole world seems degenerate to him

Tell your boyfriend to be less of a buzzword-using caricature, that could help.

>>7360349
>that whole world seems degenerate to him

Then attempt a visual approach start wearing a collar around him and take it from that point if the response to you wearing a collar is favorable. If not well I guess your just stuck to pleasing him without being asked to is you best you can hope for.

>>7357863
Paradise halls my dude

>>7359094
>Will you fall for your slavegirl anons?
Yeah, I probably would, if I'm being honest.

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>>7359094
>Will you fall for your slavegirl anons?

Yeah I would it wouldn't be to many years before
buy slave girl
she more of a pet now
slave wife

>>7359094
>Will you fall for your slavegirl anons?
I will if she's got a healthy amount of muscle on her and still has a sharp tongue. That, and still being submissive

>>7360349
>As long as he's happy right?
That's you trying to convince yourself instead of us.

If you feel like just doing it without being ordered is enough, then good for you. Like it or not, sooner or later he will get used to your treatment, and maybe it'll turn into expectations instead of gratitude. That could be good for what you want, I suppose. Could also turn him into a douche since you "spoiled" him. You'll have to know that for yourself.

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>>7357863
It's funny because you'd think such content would be easier to make.

I personally like playing as the slave. The biggest problem I've found is that it's very difficult to simulate a master. There are also very few quests that are well-written.

Even when you do get enslaved, bondage is tough to simulate. Restricting player actions doesn't really recreate the "feel". Even if you were able to at that point you wouldn't even be playing the game; just watching it.

We need full-dive VR so we can recreate the sensation of bondage and submission.

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>>7359094
I am a human being, so of course I would get attached to her. That's not a real question. The better question is, what form would that relationship take?

Personally, I see myself as "strict but fair". I make it clear that she is appreciated but I also clearly lay down my expectations for her. I make sure she is kept busy and I expect her to excel and to do her best serving me. I reward her service with my attitude, but never with material goods.

I expect my slave to know her place. She is not my equal and she will never forget it. She will address me with respect and she will behave as appropriate for her station. She will never eat before I do, never sleep before I do, and never wake after I do.

She will not be afforded privacy or personal property. She will never be allowed any form of storage I do not have access to. While I will not personally track her all the time, the slave bathroom will have an open design so anyone can see in.

She will not be afforded exclusivity. I will be permitted to bring home women and sleep with them, and she will attend to them with respect and deference. She is mine but I am not hers.

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>>7359109
I lean in favor of male masters and female slaves. That said, I'm okay with trap slaves.

>>7361123
Well, the Switch has apparently been dumping all its R&D into secretly being a hand-holding/boob-fondling simulator, so that day's at least one small step closer!

>>7357250
>I see chairs and tables all the time, but being reduced to a hat rack? That's new and cruel in it's own way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatstand,_Table_and_Chair

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>>7361137

I generally assume I would have a free woman as a wife, because I wouldn't want my heirs' mother to be a slave. It can lead to all kinds of nasty complications down the road.

That said, male slaves are really dangerous in some ways and problematic in others. I would imagine male slavery is banned except in mines and galleys, so my wife would have to make do with female slaves.

>>7328171
This but in a combination of red dawn and Defiance.

Slavery pisses me off so god damn much. I'd call myself Moses Lincoln and be killing slavers left and right.

>>7361998
On one hand institutional slavery is the primary fetish-fuel for my masturbation engine. On the other hand, I also hate the idea of it from a less lust-ridden perspective.

Frankly, I just want a game where there is institutionalized sex slavery and I can take part in the revolution.

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>>7359094
For me the idea of forming an emotional bond with a slave girl is big part of the appeal of this fetish. She would be my property, but more like a beloved pet than a beast of burden. Maybe I bought her just to be a maid and fuck toy at the beginning, but I soon become attached enough that selling her off would be unthinkable.

I imagine a lot of quiet time at home would involve her snuggled up at my side, or kneeling with her head in my lap. Submissive, but also casually intimate.

She'd still be a slave. She would be responsible for all the domestic chores. She would have to submit to sexual use at my whim. I would still punish misbehavior, but afterwards I would hold and sooth her.

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One day, as you are idly scanning a product catalog to pass the time, you notice a very beautiful slavegirl, untrained but obedient, which is sold for an incredibly low price. You read and reread her bio and general information, and she appears to be a top product from nearly all perspectives. Nothing that would justify a price this low. Thinking that it is a matter of time before someone buys her, and that you can't lose this opportunity, you immediately place an order for her, and rush to the sex shop selling her, to finish the transaction.

The first day your choice to purchase her seems to have been vindicated. She isn't enthusiastic, yet, but she follows orders without making a fuss and doesn't seem to resent you for using her, even though she does seem very tired. On the very next day, as you are using her she starts thrashing and trying to get away, holding her head and crying. You are startled at the intensity of her response and stand back. She continues holding her head in what appears to be vast pain for around an hour. When you confront her, she tells you that she suffers from chronic cluster cephalalgia, a condition whose symptoms are severe and untreatable and which is itself uncurable. She will keep having episodes like that every day, at least during the period from autumn to spring.

It appears that, at the very least, keeping her will mean either letting her suffer horribly every day of her life as you use her indifferently, or that you will need to be more careful with your treatment of her, buy her accessible but not cheap medicin to marginally alleviate her pain and give her care and attention other girls wouldn't need.

What do you do?

>>7362058
>chronic cluster cephalalgia
You do know that verapamil is only like $50 a month in the US right?
It's not like it's really that much of a sacrifice to give up premium cable.

Hell, it's cheaper than birth control usually, and you're not going to skimp on that right?

>>7362068
It's a space variant and the medication costs more.

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>>7362068

Verapamil does not have anything close to 100% efficacy, I can tell you from experience.

On the other hand, nothing can beat dick. Just fuck her until she's cured!

>>7362098
In that case, if it's not ridiculously expensive, pay for the drugs and enjoy her gratitude, even if I have to give up cable. As well as going after the store for selling her without disclosing that defect.

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>>7357601

>gets a new servant known only as "#7"
>"I guess I'll call you 「Nana」"
>Translator's Note: Nana is Japanese for 7

Jesus fuck, this is literally something you would find on Fanfiction.net

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>>7362718

Thats why I tend to ignore TL notes so I can try and reduce the stupids if possible

Plus it don't help this story's original form is that of a web novel that since it started in 2013 has nearly 500 chapters done already.

>>7362718
Yeah. It's stupid, and the translation is crap, but it's enjoyable.

>>7359109
>femdom
I prefer more believable stuff, like immortal elves being enslaved forever because they can't pay their credit card bill.

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>>7364641
sounds fun

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>>7359109
It comes up in a lot of the stuff in the pastebin, so presumably the writefags tend to be into it.

Even if it's mostly lesbians in practice, with the odd bit of malesub stuff.

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What do you guys think about a more impersonal setting in which the slaves don't even know their own masters?

The slaves would be kept in a sort of brothel. Each one would be the property of a specific owner but would be at the brothel as a rental, making the owner profits. The slave might never have met her master.

In fact, one of those those who she thinks are her customers may pay her a visit and she wouldn't even know that she is his property. If he is dissatisfied, she knows she will be dumped like trash - so she has a motive to do her best serving every customer.

>>7365075
Sounds kinda cool.
I mean also terrifying, but that's the point.

>>7359109
>genderequal slavetrade
>women as the only slaveowners
What?

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>>7362058
I'd keep her. Get her the medicine, and give her a recovery period after each episode where no service is expected of her. I'd feel too guilty about selling her off knowing she might end up with a owner who would ignore her suffering. Plus it would instill loyalty and an eagerness to please. I might take some extra work and money to care for her, but the reward would be a devoted slave.

>>7365839
There's a comma. They're separate clauses.
So it's supposed to be read as 'gender equal slave trade OR women as the only slave owners.'

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>>7359109
I like femdom only when it reverses the gender roles completely, making it so that the male slaves take on a traditionally female role while the female masters are butch and masculine. Preferably with a genetic/hormonal component that causes each sex's physique to resemble that of the opposite sex. Better yet, the females use strapons to peg the male slaves, with the male slaves having their cocks locked away in chastity cages.

That's just my preference, though. Male dominance and female submission is just what appeals to me, though the exact sexes of those involved are not the issue so much as sexual/societal role (especially in regards to who does the penetrating during sex). There's nothing wrong with hardcore femdom that totally reverses the roles, but it's not really my thing.

I notice something peculiar, however. You mention a matriarchal world in which the males are used as nothing more than breeding pigs and labor slaves. However, I've noticed that in content where the genders are the opposite of that (male dom, fem sub) you don't usually see that sort of dehumanization applied to ALL women (it's usually a punishment role at most).

I think there's a certain mystique surrounding feminine brutality in our culture that creates this appeal. Thanks to feminism, the idea of male brutality is just so ingrained into the public consciousness that it's not really exotic.

>>7362058
Yeeaah, I happen to have an aftercare fetish, so, and since this gives me the opportunity to reassure her and calm her down, I would absolutely keep her, and give her the best medicin I could buy. Also, this is a great opening for stockholming and I happen to like that, too.

I would get a grateful, happy and devoted slave that genuinely liked me, and this is a great opportunity to not merely train her, but to corrupt her.

>>7362058
First I would voice my displeasure to her seller. If permitted in the legal system we're operating in I would attempt to recoup at least some of the cost of her care and medication from them considering they intentionally misled me in the purchase of their product.

Either way, the plan is to keep her and care for her, including the additional costs. Depending on just how much of a burden that is on my finances we could end up seeing a very unusual master/slave power dynamic, especially if it ends up with me sacrificing for her wellbeing. That's not a thing slaveowners should do but honestly this situation really does make me feel bad and responsible for her. Would be fun though.

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I am ftm, and my ultimate fantasy is to be a male's slave and be forcibly re-feminized.

While in the house I would either not be allowed to wear clothing, or at least minimal female clothing. All of my holes would be plugged when not in use by my master, including a penis mouth gag. I would only be allowed to cum (while being fucked) as a reward when I've been good for a long time. Maybe once a week.

I would completely care for my master's cock, which includes sucking him off while he plays games/watches tv, cleaning him with my mouth, and drinking his urine so he never has to get up when he doesn't want to.

I'd also like him to humiliate me about my genitals and treat me like a girl.

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Question for the doms: Which would you rather buy? An untouched virgin slave, or one who is already experienced in how to please a man (or woman as the case may be)?

For the subs: If you were merchandise up for sale, what would the blurb describing you say? What qualities do you imagine the merchant or auctioneer would emphasize when trying to get a good price for you?

>>7364641
>I prefer more believable stuff
:^)
>>7367150
>Question for the doms: Which would you rather buy? An untouched virgin slave, or one who is already experienced in how to please a man (or woman as the case may be)?
I don't want to bother myself with slave training more than I have to. There is no appeal for me in breaking someones will down into submissiveness. I would prefer buying an experienced slave who has either had former masters or has been trained by the corporation or whoever I bought them from, so that they will fulfill their duties right away and do not misbehave more than necessary.

>>7367150
>For the subs: If you were merchandise up for sale, what would the blurb describing you say? What qualities do you imagine the merchant or auctioneer would emphasize when trying to get a good price for you?
-Above average manhood (7.5"!!)
-Learns fast
-Feminine character

>>7366602
Have you read Tate no Yuusha anon? This is almost exactly what happens in the beginning when the mc buys his first slave. It's not fetish focused though, and the mc never fucks her onscreen.

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>>7367150
>For the subs: If you were merchandise up for sale, what would the blurb describing you say? What qualities do you imagine the merchant or auctioneer would emphasize when trying to get a good price for you?

-Fully trained and experienced with both male and females
-Naturally submissive
-No work done, those tits are real

>>7366689
I think I'm in love

>>7340385
Cooking cleaning while I'm out and about,
For the 'so she doesn't turn all murdery' on me, on holidays I'd let her do whatever she wants* almost no questions asked, and can't be punished for it the next day

* anything except actual freedom

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>>7367150
>For the subs: If you were merchandise up for sale, what would the blurb describing you say?

Pic related.

>>7367598
w-wanna chat?

>>7367545
I have not. Is it hentai or what? Gib link.

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>>7367150

-Very afraid of pain
-Major abandonment issues. Will have panic attack if she thinks she will be discarded or abandoned. The idea of neglect play terrifies her. Will be depressed if resold.
-Fragile pscyhe - easilly depressed - treat with care
-signs of affection or friendliness cheer her up.
-If shown affection or treated amicably, you don't risk depression when hurting her or degrading her, or can easilly end it if it has set in.
-Will likely obey out of pragmatism if she's treated with minimal understanding
-Will not be resentful if allowed time to think things through and brace herself for her new duties.
-Will otherwise leave a dry and polite suicide note.
-Horribly useless at cooking or doing chores
-Open-minded, but untrained and without any sexual skills
-alternating between submissive and dominant feelings towards other girls.
-Will try to do what she's told, but she's incompetent. Punishing her for faillure will cause her to panic.
-Cheering her up for trying will likely stockholm her.

>>7367770
It's not hentai. It's an isekai webnovel that was popular on /a/ a couple years ago. If you aren't into isekai you might not like this one.
Here are the early chapters: http://swordandgame.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html
And here are the later chapters:
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Tate_no_Yuusha_no_Nariagari
Hope you like it anon. Enjoy.

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>>7367150
>For the subs
This slave girl willingly entered into lifetime bondage a year ago as treatment for her mental health after her therapists determined that it would be an effective treatment. She will serve willingly.
- 1 year of basic slave training
- Virgin. Was not allowed to masturbate during training. Desperately wants actual sex - we can provide a chastity device if this is inconvenient. Her estimated compatibility with sexual duties is B+ for personal use and D- for public use.
- Full domestic training, rated A- by the Slave Training Association. Specializes in maid duties.
- Embarrassed by revealing clothing, but will wear whatever her master provides.
- Comfortable in bondage. We recommend keeping her cuffs on. Does not desire freedom.
- College educated. Conversationally rated at an A+. Reserved personality and will likely remain silent when asked to. Has been trained to wear a gag for long periods of time.
(insert physical stats here)

>>7367828
I have no idea what a webnovel is, or what isekai might be.

However I have a fetish for friendly and caring master-slavegirl relationships, will that work?

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Could a slavery-based world have slave holidays?

Of course, rather than a holiday about appreciating slaves, it would be one about enjoying using them. I imagine a sort of "slave field day" where the slaves compete in various events throughout the day, and in the end, when they're all exhausted, the masters join in for a big orgy.

It would be meant to be both enjoyable and exhausting for the slaves.

>>7367899
Honestly if that's the case you shouldn't be posting yet. Try lurking.

>>7340385
impregnate her

>>7367909
I've been lurking for nearly a decade, friendo. But I never spent time in /a/, though.

>>7367880
>D- for public use

absolutely disgusting.

>>7367899
Comes to 4chan doesn't know what a web novel is, I didn't think that was possible

A web novel is exactly what it sounds like a novel that is published online. But if you rather just read it in manga form it has that too

You know what isekai is you just might not know that word for it. In English we call it being sent to another world.

>>7367938
Yeah, my only knowledge of japanese stuff is from what I have gathered in /d/ (I mean aside from westernized terms like anime etc, of course).

So if you want to know how the japs refer to sex machines and wallbutts, I can tell you that, but otherwise I'm completely oblivious to their genres and the like. Thanks for the information.

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>>7367935
The STA rates slave proficiencies and aptitudes, not necessarily what use they are best suited for.

In this case, "public use" refers specifically to a slave's aptitude at being a prostitute. In the world I'm imagining, many slaveowners pimp their slaves to bring in revenue. This duty doesn't mean just having sex - it means being an entertainer for strangers, and the STA's public use rating is mostly based on this.

The term "public use" here does not mean just letting your slave get fucked by random strangers, as that is not an aptitude and is therefore not considered in the rating. If my master decided to leave me in the public pillories (girls in these pillories are available for use to all passersby) for any reason, he would be well within his rights to do so, and my suitability for that role would be best described not by my public use rating, but by my physical stats.

I got a D- in public use because I'm not good at holding conversations with strangers. Perhaps that rating needs to be renamed though.

As a sidenote, the idea of being bound in the pillories like that really turns me on.

>>7367983
Hmmm. Fair enough. But I have my eye on you.

>>7367899
The caring master-slavegirl relationship you're looking for only occurs in the first 20 chapters or so (and only for a few chapters), so you can just read up to that point if you aren't interested in the rest of the story. As another anon said, you can read the manga if you don't want to read the webnovel.

>>7367150
>untouched virgin slave
With a virgin slave I'm tempted to just lock her into chastity and have her remain a virgin for the rest of her life. I would probably use other slaves for sex and have them tease her about how she'll never get to have sex with her master. In exchange, I'll probably spoil her the most though.

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>>7367150
>For the subs: If you were merchandise up for sale, what would the blurb describing you say? What qualities do you imagine the merchant or auctioneer would emphasize when trying to get a good price for you?

>Completely Untrained (Or only subject to the minimum training given by whoever's doing the sale) -- Perfect for training and molding to your desired specs
>No sexual experience
>Innately submissive and reserved personality
>Highly Educated -- Learns quickly and responds positively to training
>Hates Pain
>Sold self into slavery on a temporary basis, looking to expand horizons and worldview.
>Appears to be open to the idea of giving up the rights of a free person in exchange for not having to deal with the responsibility

Then the standard physical stats and such. The key factors in fetching a good price for me would be emphasizing my ability to learn and finding somebody who wants the blank slate aspect (instead of seeing it as a negative), which I don't think would be that hard.

>>7368141
What are your physical stats? and what are your best and worst physical assets?

>>7367150
desperate for your approval
body modification willingness
small penis, good ass, thick thighs, cute face
polite and intelligent companion

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>>7368426
I'll just say pretty average in all respects. I originally omitted those details because I had imagined that an inspection would be performed as a matter of course (With the actual data only being provided for confirmation/specifics), and because I was more interested in answering the original question as a thought experiment.

I'll keep omitting the details because filling in the details with fantasy and seeing what you want is always more exciting than reality.

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>>7354762
>There's something really humiliating about the idea of having one's own self broken down into "stats" like that. Imagine having to stand next to a placard that lists, for example, the tightness of your pussy and ass and ranking you compared to other slaves.
Not only that but also your other stats you used to be so proud off also being listed as a reminder of how far you have fallen.

>>7357643
>That's what I've wanted Skyrim to be whenever I mod it up. Unfortunately I never learn from my mistakes and always end up with a setup that's just too unstable to play for more than half an hour.
I know it can be a pain in the ass to try different configurations but there mod loading priorities are important and can be the difference between the game breaking or working.

Then again, I haven't played in month and do not know if I should install the HD version (which apparently loads mods natively now though no idea about sex mods) or I need to reinstall the old version and relearn what the newest mods are and how to load them properly. Haven't done so in some time.

>>7357615
>Imagining the frustration of the dragonborn having to waddle around in arm restrains and a spreader bar, trying to shout through a gag while also being incredibly horny.
This is why I am surpised there isn't more fiction around that concept. You are the chosen heroine thrown into an alternate world (or maybe even native to that world) but instead of saving it or at least being defeated heroically against the big bad entity destroying the world... you just got an unlucky encounter against a slaver/raider party and are now stuck as a slave.
Not to mention the additional layer if it's a player in a VR game who downloaded such mods but wasn't aware it would lock them in the game until they manage find away to get rid of the "slave" status in-game (with the game locking away options until they get rid of it)

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>>7333059
>catheter

I suppose you enjoy putting people at great risk for urinary tract infection? You're supposed to take care of your slave, not fuck their kidneys.

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>>7366597
>Better yet, the females use strapons to peg the male slaves, with the male slaves having their cocks locked away in chastity cages.
mahnigga.jpg

>>7369055
Pretty good work imo. The movement appears anatomically normal, not blocky or sudden.

Wouldn't it take less space if you did in webm instead of gif, though?

>>7328148
Record or fake a conversation between her friends talking about how glad they are she's gone and never really liked her.

>>7367828
Is there a pdf version?

>>7342999
Console her silently. restrain herhands behind her back. Give her theimpression that she hasn't doneanything unusual.

>>7346494
I liketo think I'd get attached to my slaves, I likemy kitty cat a lot, and petplay is my kink, so I'd be very affectionate to women that happen to be my property.

>>7369954
That's beyond the level of cruelty I'd be willing to go to, and I'd actually likely non-sexually torture my slavegirl for recreational purposes.

>>7370175
>and I'd actually likely non-sexually torture my slavegirl for recreational purposes

And what would you do?

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>>7369039
>I know it can be a pain in the ass to try different configurations but there mod loading priorities are important and can be the difference between the game breaking or working.
This isn't my issue so much as just mod incompatibility. Usually I'll go down /tesg/'s guide but halfway through I'll find out that one of my mods has a dependency on another that is mutually incompatible with something I picked before.

I think next time I'm just going to note down everything I want to install and all their dependencies first.

>Then again, I haven't played in month and do not know if I should install the HD version (which apparently loads mods natively now though no idea about sex mods) or I need to reinstall the old version and relearn what the newest mods are and how to load them properly. Haven't done so in some time.
SKSE isn't out for the SE yet, sadly.

There are so many amazing concepts among the Loverslab mods though. I love the concepts behind Devious Regulations, Slaverun, and Display Model.

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>>7369039
>This is why I am surpised there isn't more fiction around that concept.
The issue is that it's hard to write a good plot with a slave protagonist. Not impossible, but hard. Usually the main character needs to have agency, and such a work of fiction would likely be filled with very long descriptions of the situation the heroine is in... and she's not really doing anything. Western fiction in particular tends to be action-driven, and slice-of-life stories are rare.

It's a fantastic idea for a VR simulation though. Seriously, imagine being locked in something like this - an ornament for some aristocrat's home. There's nothing you can do but stand there an wait. Hopefully your master decides at some point that you have a use other than ornamentation. You pray that it is in weeks rather than months or years that this happens.

>>7370570
>Usually the main character needs to have agency.
A lot of the content in vanilla Skyrim (and many other games) is basically NPCs ordering you around. The sandbox lets you pick what quests to do, but if you want a particular story line to advance you're usually stuck doing whatever the quest giver tells you to do.

Just change the context from "You must do this because it's the only way to stop the villain" to "You must do this or master will beat your ass."

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>>7370551
>Usually I'll go down /tesg/'s guide but halfway through I'll find out that one of my mods has a dependency on another that is mutually incompatible with something I picked before.
Oh yeah, that is a no-go.

>SKSE isn't out for the SE yet, sadly.
I haven't had time lately to revisit Skyrim and its mods so I wasn't even aware of that

>There are so many amazing concepts among the Loverslab mods though. I love the concepts behind Devious Regulations, Slaverun, and Display Model.
Oh. That may be worth checking out even if it is just to learn about them.

>>7370570
>Agency
I think it's more a matter of setting up your story in a way your character doesn't lose full agency. Even without VR you can set up things so that doesn't happen, like it being an infiltration mission (and them being sold as a "trained slave" so as long as they obey they are given reasonable freedom within some confines) or come up with more complicated schemes like it being some local curse/tradition and until they don't figure out the way to solve it they are stuck as the town's slave.
If you want to get really fancy you can create a "slave guild" existing through the land where membership is (in theory) voluntary but binding by contract for whatever duration you specify and the heroine either being tricked into signing such a contract or doing so out of necessity (see abvove infiltration quest, only now even after it ends they are stuck as a guild member until contract expires).


Alll of these also work with VR, while VR also allowing for extra metalayers of narrative like realizing your job in-game has been changed to "slave" and/or you have been locked out of certain skills, abilities, equipment, etc.
If you want to get really harsh even limitting dialog options (not NPCs willing to talk to you but rather what you are allowed to say and how you say it has been revamped)

Personally, I think the player having to deal with those debuffs is more interesting than have them locked.

>>7370570
>Usually the main character needs to have agency,
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PinballProtagonist

>>7362058
That's kinda hot, you get to see her suffer and you don't even have to do anything. I'd buy the medicine and use it as a good reward incentive or something once in a while. It's only from Autumn to Spring.

If she is at risk of death from it though then I'd buy the medicine and use it daily or whatever it takes for her not to die.

>>7367773
>>7351422
Source for pics?

>>7370938
Don't link TVtropes. It went down the shitter years ago.

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Shit I think about:

"Man, I wonder if it's possible to induce artifical dyslexia. Common slaves really should not be literate."

Slaves are still required to attend school, but the lessons are taught in a language they don't know (some sort of Master lingua franca). They're there as eye candy, and are rewarded if they can seduce or distract male students, who are punished for any academic failure. The goal is to teach future Masters to disregard bitches, acquire knowledge

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>>7371922
I've actually toyed around with this idea in a sci-fi setting.

The ideal solution is to have a society where each person has a chip implanted in their brain. This applies to both freepeople and slaves. It's the same chip, but can be toggled into different modes based on the status of the person - this way it only needs to be implanted once at birth without surgeries being needed afterwards.

The "slave chip" automatically scrambles text so that the brain cannot interpret it. The slave's eyes are unaffected and receive visual information fine - rather, the chip intersects what the eye sees and scrambles text.

Another application - any sort of monitor or screen must output a scambled image that can only be decrypted by a freeperson's chip. Even the audio is scrambled. To a slave, televisions output visual noise and a low humming sound - though her master can enable her descrambler when convenient.

Of course with this system you'd have to be very careful with the chips. This society would maintain a registry that keeps track of the status of each individual. It is a capital crime to try to mess with someone's chip, and it is also taught to be absolute moral degeneracy. Any mishaps or mischief is swiftly corrected.

(I know some people like the idea of someone being made a slave though a mistake like that but it doesn't appeal to me in the slightest)

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>>7372072
I love this idea. But I've also fapped to the idea of my master taking away my glasses. (I'm pretty blind.) I wouldn't be able to read, drive, watch tv or do much of anything.

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>>7341919
>ritually worship me.
How?

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>>7372272
Do you think just being bound up and tossed in an oubliette would fulfill that same fantasy?

>>7370860
I'm more or less with you on all that. I think VR does in some ways offer a motivation to the protagonist of such a story, as it means that there could be an escape in the end.

>>7372436
>>7372436
>>7372436
new thread

Adieu dear thread.

>>7328134
If rich, then I buy 2 and use her for breeding.