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/efg/: Erotic Fiction General

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This is the go-to place to discuss (and produce) erotic fiction of all types, from the fap-and-go fics to porn with a substantial plot. Drawfags are also welcome- illustrated stories are the best ones! For drawing requests also check out the /d/raw thread:
https://boards.4chan.org/d/catalog#s=/d/raw

Writefags, consider pastebin/titanpad rather than dumping for your stories. You can also use 1d4chan for /tg/-related smut

You are advised to tag your stories so that people know what they're looking at. This will attract more feedback from people interested in the themes you're exploring. Consider quoting the OP when delivering. This will make it easier to find (and critique!) the new stories in a thread.

People appreciate it a lot when you give them constructive feedback and criticism, so make sure to do so. We thrive on it. Don't be afraid to speak your mind about a story that caught your attention. This will help everyone in the long run.

Requests are encouraged to promote a steady flow of new content.There's nothing like a good request to get the creative juices flowing. Try to expand your ideas - a bare-bones request doesn't give us much of a good idea as to what you want. Have fun with it! Keep in mind that it might take some time to get to yours, and each writefag is interested in different kinds of things.

Remember to post pictures when possible to keep the thread alive, but keep image dumps to a minimum so that more OC can be posted.

Requests welcome.

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>>7281995
story based on this image when
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>>7281995
Posting an extended sexual sequence culminating double TG transformation (MtF, FtM)

http://pastebin.com/V9P80gRm

First attempt at this, criticism would be appreciated. Planning on making this an extended TG fic but this is the first big TG sequence.
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>>7282129
Not badly written at all, but your formatting needs some work.

It's a good idea to either break when a new character starts speaking (using the TAB key), or to use the ENTER key to make a new line. Either works fine, just depends on if you want your story to be read like a traditional book, or like a web page.
What that's going to do is just space the text out and make it easier to read, rather than leaving it in large chunks like that.

You can also break it up into paragraphs at your discretion, wherever it feels natural, like on a scene change.
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>>7279002
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>>7279326


I think Snekguy has the right idea with having a "Best Of Category" for each genre or whatever with multiple winners.

Consider the following: We have all these people posting on here asking how to write good smut. Instead of just trying to explain to them what works, why not just show them the "Best Of Category" for whatever they want to write? Don't get me wrong. I have no problem exchanging notes, but I'd rather spend time writing my own stuff.

Therefore, the point of having "Best Of Categories" with multiple winners wouldn't be to troll or create competition. They would instead serve as examples to inspire new writers.

TL;DR: Normal people don't care about arguing and shitposting, as they do about reading and fapping.
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>>7282147
The preceding posts suggest otherwise.
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Question : does female arousal differ much from the male's one ?
I'd like to try my hand at writing space yuri between a human and a xeno, and was always on a "write what you know" basis by writing from a male POV and never wrote from a female one. They aren't much different when it comes to sex and arousal, right ?
Apologies for the naive question.
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i guess i'll try posting something, too, to try and get this on track. keep in mind, this is maybe the second time i've ever posted anywhere on 4chan (i mostly just lurk, looking around for pics and stuff; the only other time i can think of was years ago on /sci/, i think) and i don't know alot of the posting techniques here (i don't yet understand greentext, for example) and i also don't know about all this drama going on here about these other writers so i'm not even gonna touch that. but i HAVE been writing for quite some time (hope to publish someday, but probably not this stuff) and have alot that i can post and am still writing. so i'll just try posting something through pastebin (which i've also never done before, so bear with me if i screw up somehow)

this is part of a long-standing technical-fanfic of a hentai called either "Anyone You Can Do, I Can Do Better!", "Boobalicious", or "Milk Junkies" depending on translation. at least some of you have probably already heard of it--i've tried to make it my own, basically, expanding on both the original plot and adding a bunch of sequel chapters. since this is /d/, i'll post one of the chapters that actually qualifies as /d/ (but it looks like the formatting was lost in the copy to pastebin) though that means the non-/d/ background for this is left out

anyway, here it is. sorry for the infodump. at 12pt Times New Roman, it comes out to 45 pages. it includes unbirth/vaginal vore + pregnancy, incest, some lactation, age regression, and lots and lots of sex.

http://pastebin.com/R3u7Ctxz

like i said before, this is the first time i've tried posting anything to pastebin so i have almost no idea what i'm doing here and i'll gladly repost if i need to. alternatively, i could link it from where i've posted elsewhere (i put everything i write for this thing on Eka's first and what i upload there DOES have the proper formatting)
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>>7282214
Formatting could use work, but since this is your first time using pastebin that's not surprising. Overall,there's not much to say about the story beyond what would apply to the hentai itself. Sex is fairly well-written too, even if I did skip over the parts with kinks i didn't care for.

Also, a quick tip- it's better to use comparisons than actual measurements. Helps visualize it better, which helps since this was converted from a visual medium to a written one.

For the record, you greentext by adding a "less than" sign before whatever you want to write.

>like this
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>>7282214
So it transformation huh?
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>>7282214
Just ignore them and they'll go away, the community on /d/ is usually overwhelmingly friendly and helpful.

Wow that is substantial!
The formatting could use some work, refer to my post here: >>7282136
The problems I'm seeing are similar, but no less easy to solve. When I first started out, formatting was my biggest problem too, once you get a handle on it everything will be a lot cleaner and easier to read.

I'm not personally into the subject matter, but I have no complaints about the quality of the writing, besides one for two grammatical errors or spelling mistakes, but I'm the least qualified person here to criticize someone else for their editing.
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>>7282147
No, no, no, for Pete's sake, no.

No matter how you try to sugarcoat it, we know in the end it's just going to be a disaster of an ego-feeding smorgasbord. We have plenty of (or at least one, from my critical point of view) people on here who are perfectly capable of providing objective and helpful critique.

These threads simmer with enough drama without someone throwing a fresh cherry bomb into the cooking pot. Make like a vertical bar on a piece of sheet music and put this to rest.
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>>7282268
thanks for the input on measurements vs. comparisons--i'll have to remember that for the future (i DO update this stuff semi-regularly, mainly for typos but i'm not against adding all new stuff as well). the formatting usually isn't a problem for me 1) since like i said i post it on a site that more easily supports that and 2) i write it in Word to begin with so, in the places i usually post stuff, that formatting carries over automatically (the biggest loss posting here is that the italicization didn't carry over and i use that alot). one thing i want to avoid with ANY of my writing projects is to try and keep it from becoming repetitive, and (to use what i've posted here in example) i don't mean the relatively repetitive structure of just "talking, sex scene, talking, sex scene", more to not use the exact same wording every time. even looked up lots of synonyms for frequently-used terms in what i'm writing so that i can mix it up at times

>>7282294
i guess. i don't count it as much as transformation--the way i see it, it'd qualify as that if it were "more significant" changes such as into an entirely different gender or species from what the character usually is, rather than age regression/progression or size-changing

>also attempting to quote posts here for the first time (i'm much more accustomed to message boards than imageboards)
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2000 word update, new content at "I watched the tractor pass me and continue down the field"

Snek 4:
http://pastebin.com/ZDNwTwtn
>no new tags

Thinking of something like this for the Brokers, and I'm still working on the Krell design, so if you guys have suggestions or requests I'll try to fit them in.
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>>7281995
>Moo snu
Kek
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>>7282397

Feels like a costume rather than an actual alien
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>>7282412
More squiddy then? Something like this?
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>>7282418
Not this >>7282412 guy but I agree.

Maybe make their face and body less like a human by removing some of their more defining features.
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Good evening, everyone. Real life is still being one hell of a bitch, but have a quickie:

The Call
http://pastebin.com/ciNAStH7
Tentacle Monster x Female Human; consentacles, rough sex, spanking, large insertion, excessive cum.

Not a lot to say here, the pitch is the classical 'mage inadvertently summons tentacle monster, sexy hijinks ensue'; but I wrote this one from the PoV of the tentacle monster rather than the girl for a change.

Enjoy!
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>>7282418

Now that's an alien. The important part is that they look exotic enough that you can't reproduce the look with a costume, and that if a human wanted to be in a relationship with one, it would take some serious consideration due to how inhuman the alien looks.
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>>7282303
>Just ignore them and they'll go away, the community on /d/ is usually overwhelmingly friendly and helpful.

I'm not sure I'd have been able to make that conclusion, seeing as how there seems to be quite a bit of fighting going on here.
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>>7282459

Goddammit, Google has failed me! I'm aware that gif is from a Newgrounds short, but I can't remember the name of it!

Help a guy out?
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>>7282459
God Damn, I never knew I wanted that, but it's exactly what I wanted
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>>7282459
hey, thx belgianon.

never read much about consentactles, but that was fun reading it from the monster's pov. build up and delivery were nice, but there might be some grammar issues.
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Would anyone here be interested in writing a consensual public use request?
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I know this is a weird fetish but would a kind soul make a futa on male senran kagura fic?
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>>7282397
>another viper shows up to anon's farm
>the new viper and Vi bond by talking about how stupid/shitty mutons are
>[racist hissing intensifies]
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>>7282639
I second this request.
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>>7282129
I'll just reaffirm what Snek said about formatting first, as it's pretty cluttered at the moment, and can be quite confusing in spots where every quote isn't followed by 'he said' 'she said'.

There's also a few minor typos and other grammatical oddities, but nothing that can't be quickly corrected.
>taking the nervous Stephanie (a)back
>her wrapping her arm around Fred’s back
>She twister her head
>She lit a match from Benny’s (What is Benny's?)
>consider a friend were (was) a bonus
>The fire pot contained somehow contained
>“I think we’re close”,
>tight pair of points
>to a the focal point
>height be the second

Moving on from that, I'm not really into this sort of thing, so I can't judge how erotic or well done it is, but there's couple I can say about the writing and the story itself.

Firstly, your usage of language is a little stilted. Actions and reactions are described in full, going beyond flowery in your usage of words that feel like you just sat in front of a thesaurus and started substituting things in with little regard for evocation. It almost feels like you're writing it satirically in parts. Here's a couple examples:

>He expelled from his lungs the air he felt he had been holding in forever as he felt the slickness of her tongue
>Stephanie helped his cause as she compressed herself next to him, reaching down and flinging off the prohibitive undergarment.

The way you describe an action, and the language you use to do it, is at least as important as the action itself, especially when writing smut - using almost technical terms just detracts from that. Writing "He fucked her right in the pussy" is no good, but doing the opposite is just as awkward, and if there was one thing I could point out that you should work on, it'd be to find a balance that works for you and also works for the reader.
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>>7282129
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>Continued
Towards the end, you also start referring to both characters in the feminine, which is mildly confusing. Even if just for readability's sake, make sure you either uniformly switch pronouns and make it clear where and when that happens, or find another way to clearly differentiate which character is performing which action.

I was going to say something about the lack of exposition and about how the characters seem to be in a rush to get through their actions, but I don't actually know where this sits in the planned timeline of the greater story, so it might work when it's in its proper place. By itself though, it raises a lot of question about who these people are and why they're doing anything.

Overall, I'd say it's a pretty decent start to work off of. It could definitely use some polish in a few places, but you're only going to get better with practice, and no one is going to be perfect off the bat.
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>>7282601
Post it first and somebody'll pick it up if it interests them
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>>7282931
Ok, here it is
>alien space babe (star trek style) is stopping off at a space station to refuel her ship
>decides that since there's plenty of people around and she's got a few hours to kill, she'll indulge her public use fetish
>how is up to the writer, maybe a bar with a couple of the classic "ass through a hole in the wall" setups, or just bending over a bench in the public showers and writing "go ahead" on her ass in space sharpie
>she gets plowed by a bunch of alien and human dicks, of all sorts
>after a few hours and a couple gallons of semen in both her lower holes (or all three), she goes back to her ship, leaking and happy
If the writer is into it, giving the woman some slightly unusual genitals, even just something very simple like an internal clit or vestigial prostate would be really nice
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>>7282971
>vestigial prostate
On /efg/, prostates are never vestigial.
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>>7282972
I'd be cool with making it futa if you want to take a crack at it
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have the new character models in zelda caused anything to be written?
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>>7282989
I'm too busy to take up something right now, I'm afraid.

Speaking of which, I have a new chapter for everyone. It starts at "Monday."

The Grande Futapest Hotel
http://pastebin.com/SjeEbP1Y
>tags: futanari, futa-on-female, futa-on-futa, huge dicks, balls, ballsucking, blowjobs, anal, vaginal, deepthroat, cumswapping, kissing, porn, real world, I wish the real world would just stop hasslin' me

I don't think there are any new tags for this entry, unless 'edging' is a tag. Calling this 'orgasm denial' would be a little much, but... we'll get there, I'm sure. I hope you all like it. Let me know what you think either way.
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>>7283078
>I'm too busy to take up something right now, I'm afraid.
Ok, no problem
Anybody else like this idea?
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Anybody got a favorite story on fictionmania?
I'm looking for /tg/ stuff and I don't want to sift through all the crossdressing bullshit
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>>7282418
They can be squidy and mechanical. Like armored tentacles, and before anyone says that the armor wouldn't allow the full use of the tentacles these are space squid people who are being written for a smut universe and they can travel in space, maybe like some kinda super-spandex or high tech chain mail.
>the wait for nonfemdom aliens from snek continues
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>>7281995
I've always had beef (heheh) with cow monster girls or animal girls in general with huge tits, like shouldn't those tits be almost nonexistent until they're pregnant? At least that concept seems hotter to me than just ever present megatits.
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>>7282418
Snek are you ever going to make an Amazon flick?
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>>7283190
Depends on their origins. If they were magically/artificially made then you can go with horny wizards/scientists. Human females have such big tits compared to other mammals due to selective breeding and being seen has desirable traits. And since minotaurs are half-human, if we're going classic origins then them having human traits isn't far fetched. Also, the source of the pic has it canon that those cowpeople use their own milk for food/drink and given their size will result in some big tits. Woman can produce milk without being pregnant.
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>>7283185
Well they're gonna use pressurized exosuits to get around on land, like Andromedans or Big Daddies. They'll be fairly fragile and squishy when they leave the suits, which may make femdom impractical.

I was thinking of making them really arrogant, and they're a mercantile species who love wealth, so there might be sexual situations where they're paying you to perform for their amusement, eg:
>I'll give you 10,000 credits to suck that Borealan's dick while I flick my squid bean and laugh at you
Everything would be a lot more cerebral, though I guess it still qualifies as coercion/femdom.

>>7283198
A flick? If my subs increase by 100,000% perhaps.
As for fics, maybe!
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>>7283206
I meant fic. doh.
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>>7283206
>which may make femdom impractical.
Nothing says THEY can't be the ones getting gentile femdommed.
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>>7283228
So you're saying...girls can love girls?
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>>7283206
Octopi are actually rather strong and they're working on a similar basis to your brokers I'm assuming in body structure.
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>>7283206


Did you decide on how much ass the Krell are getting?

This is important.
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>>7283206
>I was thinking of making them really arrogant
You're saying that their an unlikable species by default?
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Would anyone be interested in a Rule 63 Harry Potter story in which "Harriet" gets raped by Uncle Vernon?
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>>7283404
>Rape
already absolute trash
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>>7282183

Men get aroused by the sight of women, women get aroused by the sight of men's arousal from seeing them.
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>>7283404
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>>7283404
>Harry Potter
if someone doesn't have something /d/ about them, get out. rule 63 in fanfiction doesn't count.
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http://www.lycaeum.org/mv/BX/piers_anthony_stories.html
Tags: cowgirls, lactation, noncon? Small penis humiliation. Oh, and I didn't write it.
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>>7283622
no defending fanfiction or rule 63, but don't put down vanilla. Remember, it's erotic fiction general, not Alternative hentai fiction general
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>>7283631
this was really disturbing, and not about monster girls at all :(
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>>7283631
>Tags: cowgirls, lactation, noncon? Small penis humiliation.
Sounds perfect.
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>>7282214
Vore

Well in the trash it goes.
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>>7283434
>>7283767
People, please. Be tolerant. If something is not your thing, just ignore it. That's why we ask for tags in the first place.
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>>7283404
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>>7283633
>no defending fanfiction
Isn't half of our content 40k and XCOM though?
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>>7282539
Can't help you there sadly enough, I got the .gif from /tg/.

>>7282598
>there might be some grammar issues.

Please, don't hesitate to point them out, so I know what to keep an eye out for.
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>>7283838
It would be purged too if mods did their job.
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>>7283847
What rules are being broken?
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>>7282459
Belgianon! Thought you were dead, it's great to see you posting again.
Can't say too much about the technical side, but the idea of writing from the Outsider perspective was a nice one and mind reading to satisfy fetishes is incredible.
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>>7283843
i'll get to pointing them out as soon as i get back from work.
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>>7283633
>no defending fanfiction

Oh man, you seriously made my day! I haven't laughed that hard in a decent while.
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Yeti : http://pastebin.com/vpLJc0Hy

Tags: m/f, monster girl, yeti girl, cunnilingus, 69 pawjob, large penis, gentle femdom

Just a quick thank-you piece, so it probably suffers the same 'going through the motions' problem my Apophis story had. Rest assured, my next piece will have actual characters in it. Returning characters, even.
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>>7282639
wait i remamber this image!
IT WAS MY CREATION!

But sorry for random orgasm.
I like Nagas/Snake Girls for some reason and also like transformation.
How can it be that i feel so alone with this fetish?
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So I wonder, how would a Lady of Change get an adventurer into her sexual trap?
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>>7284321
Dropping cryptic clues and hints about a particular 'key' needed to 'unlock the door'?
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3000 word update, everybody hates Chryssalids edition. New content at "I headed downstairs to retrieve my assault rifle from the cupboard"

Snek 4:
http://pastebin.com/ZDNwTwtn
>no new tags

>>7283267
So much ass that mathematical terms fail us and we have to turn to ebonics.

>>7283381
Yes.
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>>7284371
....You enjoy making species I want to like assholes don't you?
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>>7284395
It's because all the traditional "dominant personalities" in porn are actually just complete sociopaths, and he's a man to stick to the formula, so all of his aliens come across as psychotic assholes who most people would as soon shoot as talk to
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are there any long stories featuring a sexual relationship between a futanari and a male? I've read and enjoyed plenty of stories where it's either a quick fuck session, a hand/blowjob, or some hardcore domination by the futa, but are there any greens in this directory that explore what a relationship between a futa and a male would be like?
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>>7284321
>So I wonder, how would a Lady of Change get an adventurer into her sexual trap?
>>7284332
>Dropping cryptic clues and hints about a particular 'key' needed to 'unlock the door'?
Probably, if not how certain shapes can go into certain holes...
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>>7284395
>>7284411
I guess I'm just attracted to assholes.
Feel free to quote that statement out of context.
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I've got a question for everyone here, to hopefully have a thoughtful discussion here.

How do you all write? As in,how do you get comfortable to write? Do you do it on a laptop, a desktop? Do you have a good chair at your desk or a folding chair? Do you have your favorite drink or snack while writing? Any particular time of day you like to write?

For me, I used to write very late at night on my laptop, but when that died, I had to learn to write on my desktop. I write mostly at night, but on days I'll be busy, I can write bright and early in the morning. As for drinks, I just do water. Lots and lots of ice water.

I don't know if it keeps me cool while writing about sexy stuff, but... hydration is healthy.
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>>7284617
I have a favorite keyboard, and I'll either sit at my desk and type like that, or pull up my armchair and use a USB extension cable so I can type with the keyboard on my lap.
I got an old laptop recently so I can use it if I have to go anywhere, but I've not had cause to use it much yet.

I usually start writing as soon as I get up, so it's all done before I start anything else. Depending on how much I feel like writing and how fast I do it, it can take anywhere from two to eight hours.

I drink a couple of cans of coke a day, and that usually gives me a kick so I can do more faster. I find it helps to incentivize myself too, by making food and treats and such available only after the target has been reached.
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>>7284601

God damn snek, you're gonna love writing my commission then lol. It's literally summed up as "two gigantic assholes who hate each other suddenly only have each other to survive"
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>>7284625
You don't have a wireless keyboard? Is it a Model M, by chance?
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>>7284627
Antagonistic relationships are always the most fun to write.
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>>7284637
Nah, I bought a Zalman with knockoff Khail switches a while back but it understandably crapped out on me after subjecting it to like 400k words.

Now I'm using some Logitech rubber dome that I don't know the model number of, and for some reason I type way faster on it than on the mech board.

The laptop I got is an IBM Thinkpad X32 though, and its keyboard is a cousin of the Model M so I'm looking forward to using that.

Do you have the good fortune to own a Model M? What do you like to type on? You can hardly buy them anymore because the prices have become so inflated thanks to /g/'s memeing.
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Anyone know a good story for a guy unknowingly having sex with his sister, but she is fully aware?
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>>7284617
Well first I've got this old battered flannel jacket that I always put on before I write, can't seem to work without it.
I've only got a laptop, so I set my laptop up on my desk, stack of books(I actually like to read when I'm writing, just grab a book, flip it open to a random page, read a couple from there. It often gets my inspiration flowing, weather it's a urn pf phrase I like or a bit of dialog), and beside it a large mug, either one filled with cold beer or another with hot chocolate, depending on the season. Sometimes substituting a jug of sweet tea instead
On the other side, a quart bottle of Jim Beam White Label and a glass (or mason jar, when I haven't done the dishes in a while)
Usually I start drinking before I start writing, because it usually takes a few before the "this is dumb, you shouldn't write it" nag in the back of my head shuts up, but not always.
This way I usually end up pounding out usually over a thousand, sometimes 3-4k at a go words, which I usually edit down by 10-20% later
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>>7284646
I've just got a Logitech keyboard that has served me well for over a decade now. It's nothing special, but it has full-sized keys and it's nice enough.

That .gif is the most erotic thing I've ever seen in this thread.
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>>7284439
that'd be dope. also interested.
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>>7284439
I've only know of two, one of them is based entirely around incest between a young man and his little sister and the other is an anthro mlp character fucking a human.
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>>7283843

To Belgianon

line 14
... but I cannot seem to make her aware [that] her call has been heard.

32. And yet… [h]er emotions flare,

39. Other tentacles crawl along [t]he bedposts[,] but they remain passive as I bare her[.]

41. she presses into her core and withdraw[s]

43. I will ensure she get[s] enough. I want to make her get[s] enough.

45. Her hand[,] which had been tugging at her hair[,] moves instead to a pert breast,

47. She must realize what I am [remove comma] and accept me.

53. I know what I’m doing is good[,] but I will have to do more than restrain her to satisfy her.

57. all my tentacles start to[delete second 'o'] ooze black, ... It is not truly the liquid she’s imagining[,] but a mere extension of my body, [replace 'but with 'though'] it is close enough.

61. Yet, it still isn’t enough. ... A soft moan rises from her throat[,] but it has a different tone,

65. She bites down on her lip to stifle her scream as her body stiffens, he[r] muscles taut vainly in my grip, her eyes roll back in their orbits. ... Yes, it hurts, but yes, it is something she want[s]. [The pulling of her own hair] indicated [it]; pain.

67. slowly caressing her jaw[,] then her lips until she relaxes and opens her mouth.

69. Yet[,] her back arc[delete 'e']s to offer her breasts to my appendages in a silent plea for more.

73. I finally dare [to] aim one blow at the pink engorged lips from which clear fluid has been trickling, the proof [of] how much she enjoys this

81. My tentacle[,] which had teased between her thighs[,] presses forward

83. At last I stop and remain[remove 'ing'] inert inside her as I fill her to her very core,
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>>7284640

Currently have a major turning point in their relationship(by that I mean when they're finally forced to acknowledge that they're stuck with each other no matter what and they should maybe tone down the constant assholery to each other) being when they get so pissed off at each other that the polar actually takes a swipe at the human, and the ensuing fight is an embarrassing anticlimatic mess that ends in them accidentally knocking each other out at the same time.

I'd go on but fuck me I have shit to do and my "fuck I'm about to write a flood of words" senses are tingling
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>>7284983
Oh by the way I emailed you Grim's next draft of the Osha/Runt pic if you want me to give him any feedback.
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>>7285012

Motherfucker, I was checking my email hourly, how did you sneak that in there? I'll respond to it there
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>>7282539
Alright friendo here's the deal, the guy's name is RedMinus, I can't remember the name of the short but you can find it on YouTube from what I last recall. Hope you find it and good hunting!
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>>7284653
I'm dying
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>>7284810
got a link to either of them? i'd be interested in both.
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>>7285024
It's probably not as silly as it sounds. I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that there's fanfiction about it.
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>>7280211
http://pastebin.com/Wu8F9FHp
>Tags: m/f, bite-play, pretty bog standard.
Elf M x Human F

Finished reading this. Thought it was very lovely. Wouldn't mind a sequel.
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>>7285033
https://fimfetch.net/story/186146/upon-her-throne
Pony one^
http://pastebin.com/DUR245G8
First few chapters of the sister one, I can't be bothered finding all of them but just look around and you'll find them.
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does anybody remember that one fapfic of Link getting fucked by multiple Shadow Links
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>>7285058
thanks anon
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>>7283206
>other alien race still boils down to femdom-esk race
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>>7284395
With the exception of the krell, which currently have very little written about them all of sneks aliens are either douche bags or so fluffy they convince you that you belong to them. And it looks like the brokers are getting added to the douche category.
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>>7283078
>I'm too busy to take up something right now
what are you working on?
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>>7283866
I'm still alive and kicking, sadly enough the combo of "Day Job" and "Evening Classes" negative qualities on my IRL character sheet leaves me with very little free time to write.

>>7284815
Thanks a lot, this is really helpful.
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>>7285207

>or so fluffy they convince you that you belong to them

I'm not seeing the issue here
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>>7285224
Continuing The Grande Futapest Hotel for my commissioner. Rather that post every day like Snek, I'm going to post big updates for every macro-chapter that is finished, each signified by the day of the week it takes place on.
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>It's probably not as silly as it sounds. I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that there's fanfiction about it.
Dude, do you not know how the modern interpretation of Mordred came to be?
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>>7285207
>or so fluffy they convince you that you belong to them
The polars are most assuredly still sociopaths, they're just the "con old ladies out of their life savings" and "groom 11 year olds" type than the classic stab a man for looking at them funny type that the others are
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>>7285368
Oh don't worry man I agree with you, but you might want to keep it quiet. There's a certain pokemon on this board that likes polars a bit too much and defends them at all times.
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>>7281995
man reverse image search comes up with nothing, can I get a sauce for the OP pic?
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>>7285440
>There's a certain pokemon on this board that likes polars a bit too much and defends them at all times.
Well they ARE his OC waifu catbear race that he's spent a few hundred bucks on, what do you expect?
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>>7285526

Actually I had nothing to do with their creation, they story they first appeared in (Fineprint 1)wasnt even a commission, it was a story Snek did for free without any input from me. Fineprint 2 was my commission, and I just asked him for Ursi shenanigans.

I also only paid $100 for it, not "a few hundred". Double also, Polars have not been shown to do anything sociopathic in anything Snek has written, nor implied. It was just made up by people on this thread and rolled with.

Anything else you'd like to be wrong about?
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Different anon here with no dog(/cat) in this fight.
I will say that I like polars a lot better than the other borleans. The weirdly maternal way that a lot of them come across is a bit boner-killing, though. But that's just a matter of taste, I suppose. Too many flavors of femdom, not enough writers to go around
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>>7285457
12 beast by okayado
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>>7281995
Plz gib moo snu
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2000 word update, reached 60,000 words, about another 10k to go. New content at "Vi seemed to approve, and she relayed the information to the Mutons"

Snek 4:
http://pastebin.com/ZDNwTwtn
>no new tags
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>>7285640
The problem is snek advertises as a femdom writer, but he really only likes one specific niche of femdom and that confuses people.
Also zero narrative adaptability, like fuck would it kill you to learn that editing is something allowed to exist snek?
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>>7286570

people write what they want to write.

why are you upset about it?
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>>7286570
He is a femdom writer that writes femdom. If a new reader comes in expecting femdom, he is going to see femdom. Variety does not determine if its femdom or not
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>>7286570
That's valid, 'femdom' is a very broad term that includes a lot of stuff, and I can see how people might expect whips and chains and be disappointed. Similarly a lot of my stuff is a bit too hard to be tagged as /gfd/, but there's no real solution unless I want to start calling it 'moderate to severe femdom' or something.

Editing is a separate skill set to writing and I am not by any means a good editor, and my process is generally just reading it over once and seeing what I can catch.
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>>7284439
It seems like we've been getting a lot of male/futa requests lately.

>>7284617
I used to write on my desktop but I switched to writing entirely on my laptop because my desk chair is a piece of garbage and I'm too poor/cheap to buy a better one. I sit in my recliner and generally write for two hours (21:00-23:00) a night before I go to bed. Sometimes I also write when I wake up in the morning as well, especially if I wake up early. On nights when I have a hard time staying asleep I'll write until I get tired and try to go back to sleep. Water is my primary drink of choice, though I also enjoy decaf coffee or herbal tea (given the time of day I usually write). I don't eat while I'm writing because I have a rule about not eating after a certain time.
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I'm really stuck in the twilight zone with snek's stuff, because I love shit with amazonian women, I like milscifi, and I especially like catgirls, but I can't do noncon and don't even really like femdom that much, or what I do like doesn't really deserve to be called femdom
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>>7286685
no one cares, fag.

This ain't your blog
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>>7286624
"Moderate to severe femdom" sounds like a medical condition.

Also, when merchant squid alium grills a thing?
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>>7286685


I recommend reading any of his stuff with Polar Borealans in it. They don't do noncon.
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It's a vascular disease :3

I'm very 50/50 on how to introduce them, I've got two stories lined up that both offer pros and cons.

Either a so far unnamed story in which a Broker is visiting Pinwheel, with a focus on sex and all the bullshit she pays people to do for her own amusement.

Or, Defense of Hades, which is gonna take place in a human colony on a desert planet where the bugs are invading en masse. It would be a huge combined arms operation with space and ground combat, and it would primarily follow a spec ops team sent to extract a Broker who is stranded, and they would be introduced that way.

While the second one would be way cooler, it offers far fewer opportunities for smut.
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>>7286750


I think we need to get a better feel for the Brokers and what theyre like before we can make that choice, but that might just be me
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>>7286750
My Grandpa (God rest his soul) once told me- "Boy when you're out there and you eventually get someone's blood on your hands you need to know what the happiest moment of your life was, otherwise you may very well die without any peace of mind. If that means that you need to take that moment of happiness from some poor bastard then you damn well should do it! Look boy, what I'm trying to say is that you can't die a virgin. Just promise me that."

My Grandpa might have had dementia but his words stuck with me.

The moral of this story? Do the sickass space battles and fuck babes whenever you have the chance!
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>>7286723
Tfw no amazon car wife. Life is pain. Is it bad that I keep thinking up story ideas with them? I'm not sure why they've attached to my psyche so.
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Where are all the posts going? What the fuck is the mod doing?
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>>7287347
Cleaning up the drama and off-topic it looks like.
Y'all niggers better start getting along unless you want a repeat of /tg/.
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>>7287350
Call me pessimistic, but if those are the stakes we're boned.
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>>7287350
All I saw was a couple of people with different worldbuilding ideas, no shitposting
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>>7287360
Not sure why the Mod is deleting worldbuilding shit.

https://gyazo.com/a284307c93b457a015df095bc11958ea

>>7287339
Hell no, I literally can't stop doing it
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>>7287397
I'm probably gonna bump up your commission by the way Shiny, I should be done with Snek 4 next week, then I'm gonna finish Highway to Krell, then I'll get started on your story.
I'll finish Grave Goods after that.
Didn't originally plan on doing the Krell fic so early but I postponed it so much that I got frustrated and just decided to crank it out.
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>>7287437


Welp, firing up the idea engines to maximum overdrive.
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>>7287397
I don't know either.
Anyways, like I was saying before, I figure that a polar trying to manipulate the human legal system in their way would end up making things much worse for themselves, not better.
It would make a hilarious story, though
>human lawyer (maybe JAG?) is assigned to defend a polar on whatever charges
>his client just keeps getting into more and more trouble trying to play her way out of charges and invariably playing her way into more charges
>"%catgirl, you can't just try and seduce a judge to get out of this, that's not how it works here!"
>lawyer keeps getting more and more exasperated, especially when she tries to seduce *him* (he's 100% Hard Gay)
>she goes to trial and tries to flirt with the jury from the stand
>unsurprisingly, she's found guilty on all charges
>"we can't really put you in jail, you won't fit"
>"so we're deporting you"
>"to borleas"
>lawyer is glad it's over and goes home to his krell husband, swearing he'll never get even a pet cat after this
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>>7287446
This makes me happy. That and the polar would still be confused/not willing to think about why it's getting deported.
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>>7287446

Actually, she would get sent to her home country, not there. The polars of Borealis all got evacuated to Russia after they set up their country there, there is no more officially recognized territory for them at their home planet. Getting sent back to Russia will just have them sent to a bunch of confused polars wondering why she was being punished for doing nothing wrong.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but polars don't try to seduce their way out of everything, they're just skilled manipulators in general and seduction is only one of their weapons they use. I don't recall snek saying anything differently
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>>7287475
>Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but polars don't try to seduce their way out of everything, they're just skilled manipulators in general and seduction is only one of their weapons they use. I don't recall snek saying anything differently
Sure, but seduction is about the only card in that deck would be transferable to cultures other than theirs, except possibly bribery. Every other trick would be too specialized to work on anyone but them
"Manipulation" isn't just a wand you wave and people so what you want, it's a collection of several very specialized skills and techniques, almost all of which are extremely context-sensitive
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>>7287486
Could you explain how they would be able to learn how to seduce humans but not be able to manipulate with them with words otherwise? They are entirely sapient and have laws and motivations just like humans do. I recall Snek even mentioning nonsex stuff they manipulated for too.

Also, for the scenario you gave us, why would the polar be trying to seduce the lawyer who's already on her side? In fact, how is she getting herself in more trouble, the lawyer is the one who does all the talking in a court case, and they'd filter out anything wrong the polar says.

Then you also consider the fact that the polar is actually telling the truth and literally did nothing wrong, the human is just lying to get her sent to prison(because reasons?)
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>>7287498
>Could you explain how they would be able to learn how to seduce humans but not be able to manipulate with them with words otherwise? They are entirely sapient and have laws and motivations just like humans do
Not him, but that's a good point, but against them. You have to know a culture or especially legal system REALLY WELL to manipulate it with any degree of success. How would they possibly learn human culture and law well enough to do that when they haven't ever met humans for the vast majority of their lives and lived in the middle of howling nowhere sibera since then?
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>>7287507

Also a good point, but it did make me realize that she couldn't do any manipulation in the first place, the lawyer is the one doing all of it. I suppose all she has going for her is actually being innocent and telling the truth, but we all know that only really gets you so far in court without evidence.
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>>7287515
Uh, >>7287446 here, I think there's been a miscommunication here. I wasn't building on that deadpost, I was coming up with an unrelated scenerio because I thought the idea of a polar trying to deal with the human legal system had comedic potential
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>>7287530

Oh whoops, my bad. I would definitely read the shit out of a story about a court case between a human and a polar (or an equatorial for that matter)though, regardless of who's being accused of what. Might be worth folding that into a future snek commission
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>>7287612
>or an equatorial for that matter
That would probably be less interesting. It would be very short and end with a firing squad
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Does anyone ever encounter the problem of their story getting a bit too serious?

For some context, I once had this happen when I was trying to write something about a woman getting Stockholm Syndrome, and ended up freaking myself out.
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>>7287634

That means you are doing it right and telling a powerful and moving story.

>>7287625
The punishment for rape isn't death, but it would still be pretty sweet to see one brought to proper justice even if the case ended quickly.
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>>7287625
>That would probably be less interesting. It would be very short and end with a firing squad
It could still be interesting as a lead-in. Say you have this military lawyer who had a "career" of playing defence for the various equatorials who would occasionally flip out and end up being executed for it
After getting out, he's approached by a high-ranking polar who wants him to defend a lower-ranking one accused of [crime] in court, since he has the most experience defending borleans of any kind in the human legal system
Plus you'd get the wonderful ambiguity of him never really knowing if his client is trying to play him or not in any given interaction.
Like are they actually innocent or do they just want him to think that so he fights harder for them in court? Who knows?
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>>7287645

Now that's a fun premise. Make the plaintiff another polar and suddenly no one knows what to believe or who's side to take.
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>>7287640
>The punishment for rape isn't death
In the UCMJ it's on the table, and it's about 99.99% certain any equatorial on trial will be under military law
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>>7287649
Better yet, make the complainant an equatorial.
I'm gonna steal from >>7273962 because that's a great idea
Picture this, a equatorial raised on earth by humans not to be a shithead is bringing charges against a polar in human court. Who the fuck would they even know to believe?
And for the classic Ace Attorney twist, the prosecutor in this case was once a military lawyer, a prosecutor there too, and who sent twenty equatorials to the wall, but now his whole case revolves around one
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>>7287696
Please don't make me spend hours researching the legal system. Agriculture and traditional longhouse building techniques nearly did me in.
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>>7287655

Just did some research on that, apparently only one person was ever sentenced to death for rape while under the UCMJ, and that was because they also attempted to kill their victim(an 11 year old girl).

An equatorial would probably fit the bill for a death sentence though, as I imagine there would be claw marks and wounds on their victims along with actual death threats being made.

I learn something new every day!
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>>7287702
D'you ever think there might be a point where you've done enough worldbuilding for a fetish story?

Pic unrelated.
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>>7287705
How can you masturbate to people fucking giant alien snakes from a videogame if the operation of a combine harvester featured in the story is inauthentic?

Personally I would lose my boner immediately.
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>>7287707
You have a talent for replying to people without actually answering their questions, has anyone ever told you that?
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>>7287718
Maybe I do have what it takes to understand the legal system.
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>>7287721
Hah. Perhaps you've missed your calling. You'd be a fearsome defence lawyer.

How would you actually make all this faff relevant to the story, though, even if you did manage to wedge it in somehow?
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>>7287702
Look at the bright side, at least you'll be well versed in suing a giant catgirl for raping and maiming you.
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>>7287728
you can't rape the willing
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>>7287731

You can definitely maim them though
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>>7287728
>implying I wouldn't give them a medal

>>7287725
While the concept of writing what would essentially be an episode of Law & Order has some appeal, I think the complexities of the legal system would mean that I could never do it justice without some really significant study. Like, way more intense research than I would reasonably have the time to put in. I bet all those law shows have lawyers and legal consultants working to advise the writers around the clock.
I have actually been watching some legal videos on Youtube lately, where a guy breaks down all the shit people are being sued for, like the recent Jim Sterling v Digital Homicide lawsuit, and god damn the quagmire of bureaucracy and legal jargon is just unassailable.

I could maybe do some kind of military tribunal with simplified rules, but even then I don't think it's something to take on lightly.
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>>7287741
Nah just watch reruns of SVU and play ace attorney, it'll be great
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>>7287741
Hrm, fair enough.

What about agriculture and stuff though? Why do you need that, unless you're factoring in evolution and stuff, which you could write a whole book about.
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>>7287612
>>7287645
>>7287649
>>7287696
>Law And Order: Space Victims Unit
Fucking fund it
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>>7287746
Well if I'm trying to build a believable world, I can't just bullshit my way through it, I have to actually have some understanding of how it all works. Be that what goes into running a farm, or how someone might build a dwelling from scratch, or even what kind of central heating system might exist in a polar outpost.
If you try to just wing it, someone who knows better will call you out eventually and deconstruct it all.
I guess I just need that underlying authenticity, or I feel like what I'm writing is pointless.
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>>7287397
>>7287360
Maybe it's the same mod who was randomly deleting mass swaths of in the giantess thread a while back.

>>7287634
You mean serious in a way I didn't realize, but I have several stories where I initially set out to make a dumb quick porno and then it becomes a whole fully fleshed out story that just happens to have porn.
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2000 word update, starting the capstone sex scene now, new content at "The summer sun beat down on the golden fields of wheat"

Snek 4:
http://pastebin.com/ZDNwTwtn
>no new tags
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>>7287741
It always boils down to something in-between 'This is the law, you broke it in this way' to 'You pissed off this/these powerful person/people'. Just gotta understand the concept and expand from there.

>>7287753
I'd suggest looking into poly-culture, as well. The fuel for the machines, the fertilizer, and more wont last forever.
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>>7287764
>but I have several stories where I initially set out to make a dumb quick porno and then it becomes a whole fully fleshed out story that just happens to have porn.
Same here.
I'm currently wrestling with a mess of a story that started life as a gap-filler/alternate version of Worlds Apart, and ended up being more than anything a slice of life around the weirdos and poor bastards comprising the human expat community on borleas, while restraining my urge to add too much action-novel crap. I got to 10k before realizing I hadn't actually included any pornography ot even build-up, and now I'm gonna spend the weekend drinking and trying to maul it back into shape
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I heard there was a version of CoC modded to be without furries, is it true?
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>>7286685
There's a decent amount of consensual stuff that he does, and you can just skip over any non-con and lose nothing.
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>>7287871
Wouldn't that just be a blank .swf file?
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>>7287882
Not really, you'd only have to replace all mentions of muzzles, beaks or snouts for suitably human facial bits.
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>>7287886
I was just making a joke.

On an unrelated note, broodlord, you around? How the comission
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trying to find a story, can't remember the name

guy's wife goes to work, while his succubus daughter blows him under the table (against his will?), she threatens to tell the wife if he refuses.
the end up fucking.

any help?
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>>7287696
Sounds like I'm gonna need more lotion. I can already see that midway through the trial the equatorial looks almost 100% guilty then bam, the standard legal show twist where it's a mistake and then the rush to bring the polar to justice before the jury votes.

>>7287703
>only one person
Sounds like an easy to beat high score

>>7287747
If I had money I'd give it to the cause.
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>>7288518
Took me a bit, but I'm 90% sure this is what you're looking for:

Nightflower
http://pastebin.com/KnNYwMxD

It wasn't one of us, but one of the guys from /mgt/. I don't think he's ever posted here. You're lucky my collection is so expansive.
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>>7288531
based.
was it actually in one of the smut lists afterall?

cheers again man.
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>>7287696
>Picture this, a equatorial raised on earth by humans not to be a shithead is bringing charges against a polar in human court. Who the fuck would they even know to believe?
>And for the classic Ace Attorney twist, the prosecutor in this case was once a military lawyer, a prosecutor there too, and who sent twenty equatorials to the wall, but now his whole case revolves around one
fucking hell, I want to see this, it's perfect
>former JAG officer is recalled from her quiet job as a corporate contract lawyer because she has the most experience in prosecuting MadCats
>but her star witness/victim in the case is theoretically an equatorial, of whom she'd done in rather a few
>but the thing is, he's an equatorial by birth but he's actually a complete southern gentleman who's taken this polar in for exactly the same reason she got all those MadCats shot
>the charge is attempted rape
>she really tries, but she can't help falling for the guy
>halfway through the trial it looks like the defendant is gonna play the court and turn it around and claim the complainant is the actual criminal
>a brilliant last-minute play proves that the polar is playing the court, but not quite as well as they thought
>after the trial, they catch up and he finally kisses her back
>"no ma'am, I'm waiting for marriage"
>"ask me again when this is all over"
>and they go home for some so-gentle-it's-not-even-femdom-femdom
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>>7288537
No, it wasn't. I just have a particularly expansive collection. I found my copy, googled the title with some extra key words, and found the original. I should really probably include the author in my personal copies. It would make this a whole lot easier.
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>>7288553
>virgin but confident guy
>equally virgin gal taking the lead without being """dominant""""
Call the paramedics, because I'm five times as erect as normal for more than an hour
Fund this, if there's a kickstarter, I'll put a fifth's worth up on it
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>>7288553
So it's just a regular courtroom drama? What makes there being aliens anymore interesting than not having them? Stories about aliens are fun because things happen that can't (easily) happen with humans not because of them just being there.
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>>7282459
Lovely to say the least. I had a little trouble with the "tell" because I couldn't quite get into the head of the creature (I did this, I did that, I did). The scene was great and I love what was going on. Thank you.
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>>7284617
I have two writing modes, typical and frantic. :)

Typically, it's a stolen 5-20 minutes of writing while dealing with the children or family, or trying to get a few words written in the lunch room at work. Most of the time, I don't really like to write porn during those times (I feel uncomfortable getting into the scene with Power Ranges on the TV or coworkers three meters away) but that is 90% of my writing time. In these times, I'm on the laptop with the tiny keyboard (well, it's a 17" laptop by the keyboard is too small).

The frantic... oh, those are the good days. The couple hours or even days when the family is out of the house and I get to enjoy the basement office with the full-sized keyboard. Those are the times I can usually get up to full speed (100+ wpm) and I belt out a couple thousand words an hour as I ignore things like bathroom, eating, or even the pain in my wrists. Because my time is limited, I don't edit, I can't really go back, I don't even keep my eyes open most of the time. I just shit out words as fast as I can because while I don't like writing porn around people, I can *edit* it without a problem (all the sexy is drained out of the story by then).

About once a year, I get three days of writing time alone. I usually belt about 50k words in that time but I have wrist pain and burn out for a week.

As for eating... the normal is just trying toe eat well and have lots of tea. The frantic... grease or starvation, whatever gets food into my system when I slow down.
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Was this mail sent by anyone in the thread? My commissions email has only ever been posted the once.
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>>7289581
I got one of those too to my Snekguy email.
No idea who it came from, same email address by the looks of it. .
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>>7289581
>>7289685
Could be a bot crawler grabbed them from the thread?
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>>7289701
The name in the email seems to gave Arab/North African roots so it's likely some kind of scam bot.
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>>7289704
"I'm a Borealen prince and I need access to your credit card to help restore my rightful throne. When I get back in power I will send a harem of Borealens to your house has thanks. "
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hey snek, you know what you haven't written about, and you should write about as soon as possible?

Two female vipers wrestling over mating rights resulting on a threesome where the loser has to be at the bottom of the totem pole.
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>>7288644
Hahahahaha that's a good joke.
Aliens can't ever be used in plots that could happen with only humans, spicy meme.
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>>7289768
RIP every plot with aliens, ever
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Hey everyone, Just here to post a quick update of ~3000 words. A bit shorter than what I normally add in an update, but I wanted to round out Chapter 3 and finally resolve the coma!

http://pastebin.com/M1By6hW8 (embed)
https://fourleaffics.miraheze.org/wiki/Love_Coils

As always, the new stuff is at Update* and feedback is most certainly appreciated!

(**Forgot to put on the name, fuck I need to get some sleep**)
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Werewolves are /tg/ right?
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>>7290625
Glad to see you're still alive.
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>>7290629
Is that farseer getting railed by exodite futas?
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How good do you have to be at writing smut to make money self publishing on amazon?

How do I go about getting an editor that'll help make that happen?
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>>7288879
Fair point. I tried to make the monster's otherness shine through with bizarre word combinaisons like 'blindingly loud', but it quickly became a mess of words so I gave up on it. If you have any pointers or good examples on how to write 'alien' mindsets; I'm all ears.

>>7284617
To answer your question, most of my writing is done either on the PC at work when there's an idle moment (in a damn uncomfortable chair, I should add) or in a train on a small tablet with attached keyboard while commuting. When I'm at home, I get too easily distracted by either things that need doinging like laundry or things I want to do like playing (insert computer game here). The only times I can really write at home is when I get a manic moment and absolutely need to write an idea out, no matter what time is it or whatever else needs be done.

Snacks are a no-go since a couple of years ago I was presented with the non-choice of eating less or getting a full new wardrobe; eating less it is. A good cup of coffee, on the other hand, is always welcome.

You also might have heard "Write while drunk; edit while sober." I'd amend it to "Write while buzzed." I don't encourage people to get drunk, but a good beer or glass of wine to stop the mind from second-guessing everything and just get to it has worked wonders for me.
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>>7290419
Aw yeah, more fluffy lovey-doveyness. Gotta get the insuline shot ready!

By the way, you left "update" in there twice.
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Just wondering if Null is still around?
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Would anyone be interested on writing a story of a full blown lesbian undergoing a process of defiminization (whether be magic or science means) and coming to terms with his newfound interest in men?

A slow burn where we get to see the way the defiminization process slowly changes her perspective about sex, men and women would be ideal.
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2000 word update, new content at "She uncoiled her chubby tail from my torso"

Snek 4:
http://pastebin.com/ZDNwTwtn
New tags:
>hair pulling, boobjob

Unofficial theme song: https://youtu.be/diumeAfYULo

>>7290419
Nice, I knew you wouldn't write anything too tragic. I'll give this a read when I have time, last few days have been hectic.
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>>7291362
I know it's not a long update, but any thoughts you have after reading would be helpful
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>>7291362
yo snek- been wondering. what's the average lifespan of a borealan?
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>>7291443
Not him, but I'd be severely surprised if it's over 50-60, considering their complete and utter lack of actual medical science and society that severly suggests an utter lack of care for the sick or injured
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>>7291494
I don't think sick or injured Borealens has really ever been brought up in any of the stories and they bounce back from injuries pretty quickly. Polars might have a longer lifespan due to being much more caring of the entire packs well being and even the well being of other sapient lifeforms like humans.
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>>7291502
>and they bounce back from injuries pretty quickly.
Those have generally been simple physical injuries, no internal bleeding or anything
Doesn't mean that space malaria isn't going to kill them stone dead because they don't know shit about treating anything and wouldn't care to even if they dif
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>>7291362

Yo snek

>>7289708
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>>7291502
>Polars might have a longer lifespan
I'd guess they'd make it to their 70s, less dying early from injuries and dysentery et al, so they'd generally die of cancer or quite likely coronary disease from their all-meat high-fat diet
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>>7290886
Alien mindsets? Well, the first is probably focus on third person single. I found that when you head-hope or show the internal state of other characters, it makes it harder to sink into a point of view.

From there, start with their senses. Do they have higher sense of smell, reduced site, or see things differently. Those are good things for showing an alien mindset (the ability to see heat means that they can tell strong emotions, when they are turned on; the ability to see electricity would tell you a lot also; likewise, not being able to see color would have other problems such as Doug's "I see a gray one" from the movie Up). This makes it more alien since we are mostly human readers.

I would also recommend you look up "purple prose". Your phrasing is firmly into it which makes it hard to create a distinct voice for aliens.
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>>7291532
They evolved to be mainly carnivore though so their bodies are used to that. Also, cold places are really devoid of bacteria that causes diseases due to not being able to survive those temperatures.
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>>7291494
>>7291502
They're pretty hard to put down, it would have to be a pretty severe accident to injure them in a way they wouldn't just heal. Something like dropping a steel girder on them in a construction site or something. There's not really a lot that can injure them, all the big animals stick to the jungles, they don't really use cars the way we do, fights normally end before they escalate. Besides a freak accident there's not much to hurt them in their day to day lives.

I have no idea bout diseases and immune systems, I think that's a lot more realism than the setting requires, as we've been over the cross-contamination stuff before.

>>7291443
Probably close to or a little less than a human. 60-80 is probably a good range.

>>7291525
That's not something I'm gonna have time for any time soon, though I did get a similar pitch where a Polar and an Equatorial fight over a guy. Not sure if I want to write that or make it a path in the VN.
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>>7291538
>Not sure if I want to write that or make it a path in the VN.
I vote for adding it to the VN, for the inevitable haremfags
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>>7291538
Infection seems like the actual danger considering how often they get injured
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So... who does Chuck Tingle's Photoshopping, anyway?

And has anyone ever actually READ one of them?
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>>7291548
>So... who does Chuck Tingle's Photoshopping, anyway?
Chuck Tingle, probably
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>>7291548
I'm pretty sure he does it himself. He's gotten this campy style that people that just took on a life of its own. Now, people read it for the quirkiness.
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>>7291548
I assume it's either him or his son, who is also his editor/caretaker. (Tingle is an autistic schizophrenic, his son did an AMA on Reddit a while back that might be worth a read if you're interested in him or his work.)
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Finally making progress on my story Loving Homes for Broken Toys. Main story mostly revolves around Elf M x Naga F.

>"If you're looking to drag in a bounty for the warcrimes trials you're headed the wrong way."
>The snake woman laughed.
>"No he's not for that. This one is for me, he's gonna get taken home."
>"A blind elf?"
>"He's good with his hands... and a few other things."

I'm wondering what other sorts of pairings people would like for related stories. The "broken toys" being mostly wounded humans, elves and a few other fantasy races left behind after a war. To help find people with the time/money to care for them some of them would voluntarily be sold into indentured servitude or slavery.

Would would be some interesting races for adoptee and adopter aside from the usual monstergirls?
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>>7291537
>They evolved to be mainly carnivore though so their bodies are used to that
Autopsies on predatory animals have shown evidence of arterial plaque buildup, it's just that none of them ever live the 50-70 years that it would take to be an issue, while polars would
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>>7291538
>They're pretty hard to put down, it would have to be a pretty severe accident to injure them in a way they wouldn't just heal. Something like dropping a steel girder on them in a construction site or something.

This annoys me to no end.
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>>7291602
Tell me more about the setting first, please.
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>>7291614
Harsh environment means tough and survivable, high gravity means dense bones and muscle, selectively bred over generations for strength and fitness, it's been established that small arms fire isn't guaranteed to stop them so minor injuries aren't likely to either.

It would take a huge amount of blunt force to break their bones, and their rapid healing makes any cuts or abrasions that don't hit organs trivial.

On a high gravity planet falling would probably be a significant danger, but they don't build high and they have stabilizing tails for balance.

The only scenario I can imagine that would put a Borealan down outside of combat or violence is if someone dropped a piano on his head.
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>>7291621
It's a bit of a strange one really.
Elves are basically corsairs and raiders from another world looting what they can from a fantasy setting. Couldn't use all their best tech for fear of triggering the gods to intervene.
Locals start to go industrial revolution to an extent to beat them back and elves decide to gtfo. Some of the elves get hit by friendly fire or are left to die so that those higher up can escape with more loot.

Stories are set in the aftermath trying to deal with the survivors and prisoners.
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>>7291626
Actually, a harsh, high-gravity environment is most likely to produce really tiny, r-selective animals with an emphasis on non-confrontational survival strategies. Surviving past breeding age only harms the species, so toughness is largely unproductive. They would most likely start breeding as quickly as possible, produce enormous litters, and die early.
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>>7291626
>>7291626
Simple infected cuts would probably be one of the leading causes of death, simply on just how goddamn often they get cut up and how they're generally rolling around in the dirt when it happens
Plus the circumstances of their settlement are just absolutely ripe for massive disease outbreaks, and especially sexually transmitted diseases would tear through their population like a goddamn prairie fire on the regular
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>>7291640
What are you basing that on?
Bone density and muscle mass correlate directly with gravity and the strain placed on the muscles, that's why astronauts have to do so much exercise in zero gravity, so their muscles don't atrophy and they don't get bone density problems.
Higher gravity invariably equals denser bones and more muscle mass, which correlates with toughness relative to humans.

You are right that in reality they would be shorter than they are, but that's an aesthetic choice on my part, along with making them humanoid and all the other stuff that's necessary for the porn.

>a harsh environment is likely to produce r-selective animals that are non-confrontational

Equatorials are r-selected, they birth a litter of up to a dozen kittens and basically let them run riot, the Polars are K-selected and birth one child who they raise diligently.
They're also cooperative and highly social, what about the pack structure isn't inherently cooperative?
They would certainly have had a very high mortality rate and lived short lives in the past, but they have an industrial civilization now so that doesn't apply to them any more than the mortality rate of hunter gatherers would apply to modern humans.

That said r/K selection has almost nothing to do with the environment, you will find both strategies anywhere you look. Arctic wolves are K-selected, Arctic hares are r-selected, both live in the same environment. Even among predators that fill a similar ecological niche there's a lot of variation, for example between Cheetahs and Lions (average 9, average 3).

>>7291674
I've been over the reasons in a prior thread why I'm not going to take viruses and bacteria into account, at that point there would no interaction between any of the species due to fears of cross-contamination and then there would be no story. There has to be some suspension of disbelief. I also don't want to write about sexually transmitted diseases and nobody wants to read about them.
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>>7291694
>I've been over the reasons in a prior thread why I'm not going to take viruses and bacteria into account, at that point there would no interaction between any of the species due to fears of cross-contamination and then there would be no story. There has to be some suspension of disbelief. I also don't want to write about sexually transmitted diseases and nobody wants to read about them.
I'm not saying that they should play a major role in a story or anything, I'm not saying you should go back and rewrite all your stories to have the human worried about contracting borlean malarial syphilis when they're getting molested, I'm just saying that it probably deserves just a bit of consideration in worldbuilding and background material is all
Plus honestly I think the old sci-fi standby of
>aliens have their own viruses and diseases but they don't cross the species barrier
Is a lot less hard on suspension of disbelief than
>this thing should realistically be a big thing in their culture and society but isn't because elf magic
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>>7291728
That's more based on truth than you think. Diseases have a hard time jumping the species barrier and shit like common bacteria or alien dust/pollen would be where a lot of deaths would come from. Our/their immune system would have no idea how to handle it due to never encountering it before.
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>>7291728
>>7291744
See that's something that always confused me.

Let's take a virus, smallpox for example, and introduce it to an alien species who just landed on Earth. These aliens have evolved completely isolated to all Earthly life, have no common DNA, maybe a totally different amino acid makeup, maybe they're even silicone-based lifeforms.

Are they immune to smallpox, because it can't even recognize them as potential hosts, or are they super at risk because their immune systems have never encountered that virus before?
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>>7291752
The issue is, we can only guess because we have don't have any hard evidence on what would happen. Another thing is how different their biology is. For instance, opossum are immune to rabies due to having a slightly lower body temperature than most other mammals that can get rabies.
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>>7291752
>Are they immune to smallpox, because it can't even recognize them as potential hosts, or are they super at risk because their immune systems have never encountered that virus before?
Quite literally God only knows, so sci-fi authors are free to choose which of the two ways it goes in their work, mostly the latter unless it's the focus of the thing

Plus the anthro student in me actually really wonders how a society like the Elysian Equatorials would regard and react to STDs
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>>7291763
>>7291782
The only setting I can think of off the top of my head that really tackled that was Mass Effect with the Quarians, and that was less about cross-contamination and more about their space AIDS.
Now that I think about it the subject is conspicuously absent in every sci-fi novel I've read, I assume just because it's a huge can of worms.

I can't claim to know enough about diseases and bacteria to give a statement on how Borealans would react.
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>>7291626
The bone and muscle strength don't bother me,
the regeneration and the idiotic idea that they can shrug off bullets is what aggravates me.
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>>7291818
He did say small arms fire
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>>7291637
So the elves are assholes in this universe as well huh?

Well, what are some of the native sapient species?
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)]>>7291818
They're really big, and very dense, small caliber sidearms and such aren't going to put them down unless they get a lucky shot. The same is essentially true for humans, a bullet can pass through a body cavity and miss vital organs or arteries, or embed itself in tissue, failing to put the assailant down, which is why police are trained to mag-dump.
A Borealan has more in common with a tiger or a lion than a human in terms of weight and size, and I'm sure you wouldn't trust a 9mm handgun to stop a tiger or a bear in its tracks.
They're not immune to bullets, but small arms aren't going to have the stopping power to kill them outright in most scenarios, and if you're not killing a Borealan outright then you aren't killing it period.

[Insert /k/ caliber memes here.]
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>>7291826
>>7291841
A .50 caliber sniper rifle is considered small arms fire. An M249 SAW is considered small arms fire. An RPG is considered small arms fire.
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>>7291844
A .50 BMG isn't a "small caliber sidearm" though, is it? That caliber will kill a fucking engine block, never mind a living thing.
If you shot a Borealan with that caliber they'd be vaporized.

The weapons in the setting are railguns and plasma weapons though, which absolutely can and do kill them, I'm talking about handguns and sidearms which are mostly conventional.
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>>7291859
You said "small arms fire" so I listed small arms weapons, don't get sassy with me when you were the one that was unclear.
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>>7291870
Sneak will just say whatever makes birealeans seem more badass, you should know that by now
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>>7291870
But I did clarify "small caliber sidearms" in the post you were responding to.

Maybe I'm using vague terminology but I've never heard the words ".50 BMG" and "small" used in the same sentence before.

>>7291871
The Krell are actually way tougher than Borealans and can kick their asses, and they really do shrug off bullets in the sense the other Anon was referring to.
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>>7291875
When will that be demonstrated
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>>7291841
Sir, I've been shot, and shot back at both people and dangerous animals in my time

The reason you don't shoot at moose and bears et al with weak rounds is not that they won't die from the wounds, because they certainly will, and I've had to mercy finish durr and meece hit and killed slow by assholes with .22s and .223s too many times, it's that they won't be *stopped* immediately by such and put down fast.
It's not about lethality, it's about stopping power. A dumb motherfucker with a hi-point columbine carbine can kill a deer easy enough, it's just that it'll take a few unpleasant hours for the shot durr to finally collapse.
Muscle isn't magic, no matter the fetish strength, and frankly 7-8/10 torso hits are gonna mean organ damage and an protracted and extremely unpleasant death for the borlean who's shot, since they never invented trauma surgery or even goddamn transfusions
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>>7291875
Small-arms is anything that's small enough to be carried by hand, so by that definition one of them could shrug off a point-blank shot with an anti-tank gun.
>>7291892 is right, they have muscle, not a built in bulletproof vest.
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>>7291694

>and nobody wants to read about them.

My sweet summer child.
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>>7291889
I've got maybe three days left on Snek 4, then I'll dedicate all my energy into getting the Krell fic done.
Hoping to get some Krell art when the Osha/Runt pic is done too.

>>7291892
If a grizzly bear is charging you, and you shoot it with a handgun, it's not likely to drop dead on the spot unless you get a lucky shot and hit a vital organ. Same goes for a Borealan. Account for the rapid healing factor and alien biology hand-waving and it's not likely to die either, it's gonna pop that bullet out like fucking Wolverine and keep going. Because this is all completely fictional and they can do that if I want them to.

>>7291899
For the third time, I clarified "small caliber sidearms".
An anti-tank gun is not small caliber, nor is it a firearm.
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>/d/ - Gun Semantics and Infectiology
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>>7291909
*sidearm
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>>7291909
Somebody needs to learn the MST3K mantra, you're trying way too hard to justify things that don't matter much
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>>7291909
>Account for the rapid healing factor and alien biology hand-waving and it's not likely to die either, it's gonna pop that bullet out like fucking Wolverine and keep going.
Again, unless that extends to lungs un-puncturing themselves in the exceptionally short time it takes a sucking chest wound to go to lethal hemeothorax, kidneys and pancreases that regenerate to full capacity in hours, livers and stomachs that don't matter and hearts that can magically pump with holes in them, even a .32 to the chest is gonna be lethal
I could very easily accept a borlean who's effectively already dead doing extreme triple FBI '86-tier damage on their way out, it's just the magic immunity to logical consequences of gunshot wounds that grates on me
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>>7291928
see earlier about the badass thing, odds are Krell are going to be capable of surviving a nuke going off on top of them
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>>7291892
I don't know why, but immunity to consequences in general and being shot or stabbed in particular are an important part of snek's racial femdom fetish so any amount of logic can eat shit, buddy, no matter how much sense it makes
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>>7291935
No, but Betelgeusians are insects and roaches can survive nuclear fallout, so that raises some interesting questions.
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>Account for the rapid healing factor and alien biology hand-waving and it's not likely to die either, it's gonna pop that bullet out like fucking Wolverine and keep going. Because this is all completely fictional and they can do that if I want them to.
>Well if I'm trying to build a believable world, I can't just bullshit my way through it
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>>7291928
>>7291937
That sort of thing is even worse in movies where people shrug off all kinds of shit that should cripple them or have on the ground and not moving afterwards. This is why doctors or such don't watch action movies or anything that involves their field too much. Though in some cases it's the opposite. For instance, I'm a cinema production major and movies with a lot of practical effects and camera work become more interesting to me.
>>7291940
They can survive the radiation, but the heat and blast wave from the initial bomb explosion would still wreak them and everything else. Fire/heat is especially dangerous to things with carapaces.
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>>7291928

From what I've gathered from snek's stories, Dom cats have a healing factor slightly behind Wolverine's.

So yes, shrugging small-game stuff comes with the package.
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>>7291944

>Well if I'm trying to build a believable world, I can't just bullshit my way (entirely) through it.

FTFY.
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>>7291950
He had an unbreakable skeleton and was also a mutant, the rapecats have no excuse
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>>7291944
>I can't just bullshit my way through it

It's completely fictional though.
For all anyone besides me knows they don't even have organs and lead gives them super strength.

Unlike agriculture or the legal system which are real things that I need to research if I want to write about them, this is a fictional alien race that I created, so I'm not going to be applying rules to them that subvert their purpose in the stories.

That's hardly the worst offense anyway, I pulled the FTL method completely out of my ass, but nobody has complained that faster than light travel violates the laws of physics.

Again, there has to be some suspension of disbelief or at the end of the day there is no story.
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>>7284646
Hi, I'm Stuart Chiefet and today we'll be talking about portable computers on this edition of the Computer Chronicles...
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>>7291963

I got this snek.

Alright everyone, here's how you solve your angry equatorial problem:

Incendiary rounds.

Alright, everyone go home.
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At a certain point when fighting a rape cat you have to realize that one of two things will happen

>1. You get raped and because of Jewi*cough* I mean borealen magic you will like it and eventually form a bond with your rapist, or failing that a fluffier version of it

>2. You kick the shit out of it because of Robocop level upgrades (they never stood a chance) but you still feel bad about it cause "hur dur dur I'm now the bad guy cause I blame the individual for a culture and biological mindset they can't control or deny"

Important note, snekguy always mentions krell winning in fights when anyone brings up the strength of the cats. The krell are green, and the only thing that beats the cats are green things like the krell and occasionally the murder bugs. You know who else gets beaten by green things? Superman. Snekguy has created an OC kryptons with cat ears and a dominant personality. It's time to wake up /d/
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>>7291963
>It's completely fictional though.
It's not, though. Yeah, it's fiction, but they're just people with cat features. You clearly depict them as such, so pointing at that and saying "That's not a person with cat features, but in actuality a black-hole in disguise" doesn't work.
They can eat the same food, breath the same air, speak the same language, procreate the same way. They can live on each other's worlds relatively comfortably. They share almost all their characteristics with humans, save for minor cosmetic differences. That means they're mostly likely going to have, fundamentally, similar biology. Saying that a creature, which is little different from a human outlier, can shrug off crippling, if not lethal, wounds, whilst also saying you want the setting to be believable is strange. It makes as much sense as saying your farmers spread salt and acid over their wheat, because it's actually GMO wheat.

Meat isn't bulletproof. Infection and blood loss exists. Vital organs with holes in them can't repair themselves fast enough to save their owner. You absolutely don't need to feature that in your stories. You never even need to mention the more distasteful aspect of that if you don't want to. But there is a very wide gap between not showing unerotic realities because you're writing erotica, and showing something that inexplicably defies common sense for reasons that don't actually add to the plot. Your OC catpeople don't need to be indestructible to be impressive, and maintaining that they have to be like that or it'll 'subvert their purpose in the stories' is confusing to me.
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>>7292026
Fucking THIS!^^^
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>>7292026
Their purpose in the plot, besides being rape monsters, is to serve as supersoldiers for the UNN. The reason I want them to be uncommonly strong and resilient is so that they can fill that role. If they're not uncommonly strong and resilient, and they're just as susceptible to injury as a human soldier, then they're just slightly taller fodder who can't do anything a human couldn't do while being a smaller target and requiring less food.
It's also the reason they're tolerated at all among the human ranks, because the UNN needs them badly and will put up with their shenanigans because of their ability to turn battles around.

So if I take away their healing factor and make them just as susceptible to injury as a human, then that completely undermines their whole purpose and they have no reason to be there anymore.

Same reason I don't want powered armor and cyborg soldiers and things like that, because the whole premise is built around the UNN needing the rape cats (and other aliens) to fill those niches which is of course the vehicle for the porn.
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>>7292044

Not that I want to argue with you snek, but isnt their purpose defeated with so many plasma weapons being thrown around?
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>>7292046
Remember Betelgeusians try to close and fight in hand to hand combat with daggers and pistols, that's where they're most effective. In the first Pinwheel story the Borealans earn the respect of the marines and justify the continuation of the integration program by demonstrating their ability to counter that tactic when the station is boarded.
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>>7292050

So basically theyre indoor shock troops and great for defense, but never ever let them fight outside?
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>>7292051
They make good jungle soldiers and their sent tracking helps for scouting. Funny enough, the polars will never get to do much in cold environments/planets because the bugs are going to avoid the hell out of those places.
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>>7292051
They're mostly used as shock troops and in boarding operation yeah, and to break enemy formations like what happened in Purple Heart on Kruger.

Think of them as Kroot, while the marines are Tau.
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>>7292055


Polars don't care for combat like Equatorials do anyway, theyre more the logistical/support types.

>>7292057

Funny, I imagine UNN drill sergeants shove this fact into their face to remind them that they arent invincible and out in the field, they're no less vulnerable than a human. A huge part of basic training is ripping apart mentalities and rebuilding them into better things, and equatorials would receive massive amounts of attention for their antics.
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I haven't participated in these kinds of threads before. Would anyone be interested in some erotic fan-fics which involve lots of footfetish, rimming, sweat, smells, etc.? I've written one that I'd like to share.

Should I post only from pastebin, or is it acceptable if I have it uploaded somewhere else?
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I've been working on a thing over at the CYOC story board.

https://www.cyoc.net/interactives/chapter_115620.html

For those unfamiliar with it and too fucking lazy to scroll back one chapter), CYOC (choose your own curse) is a writing prompt based around a town curse. A bitchy/irredeemable cheerleader and her friends in high school humiliated a nerd by pantsing him. So, to get revenge he enacts the town "Transform or Dare" curse over the phone one morning before school. How she is affected is up to the minds of the writers. For the duration of the curse, reality shifts to compensate for the changes of the curse (ie: if she has multiple breasts, everyone thinks she has always had multiple breasts).

My branch of the curse has the nerd cursing the cheerleader with mental sluttiness tied into her physical transformation/expansion. Every day for a week she will go through a cycle of transformation from not-slut to begging for dick pile of tits and ass. To progress faster through the cycle, she has to have 5 sexual partners to "reset" her to normal for the day, each pushing her further along until her reset. However, because this is normal to the world, the cheerleader isn't the only one afflicted by it, as all women experience this cycle as a normal part of their day.

There are a few redundancies and typos, I was trying to get as much of the story out before I blew my load. I always hate it when I see a story that ends after the first prompt of a paragraph, when you can tell the author was finished and never returned. I can't edit it because I was submitting anonymously. I wanted to do my best to paint the picture of the story that I could.

[TL;DR:] Expansion, Bimbofication, Magic Curse, Global Transformation, and of course the usual.
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>>7291694
You're confusing what happens when a species enters a new environment with a species that is native to one. We lost muscle and bone mass in space because we were never meant to live in low gravity, and our bodies don't entirely know how to maintain themselves without those stresses. Species from high-gravity environments will have higher bone density and muscle mass, but they're also going to be short, and preferentially not bipedal, as muscle mass is a very weak compensation for higher gravity.

Environment absolutely plays into r/K selection. It just doesn't mean that a species is necessarily determined by the environment. That being said, sufficiently hazardous environments due invariably lead to r-selection. Extremely arid deserts have essentially no k-selected species. There is also absolutely no natural regime in which any mating pair produces one offspring. Only humans do that, and it's a horrible idea.
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>>7292057
But aren't the Kroot expendable auxiliaries whose role is to be meatshields in melee combat? I thought you were trying to make them sound badass.
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>>7292139
Post from pastebin, and if you do someone will read it.
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>>7292044
Resilient doesn't have to mean invincible. Just make it so they heal faster from injuries, not ignore them completely like they were living tanks.

They still feel pain, they still lose blood, they're still flesh and blood like anything else and they should be treated accordingly so they don't come off as so perfect that one wonders why human soldiers are being used at all.

>>7292050
That just makes the bugs look like idiots for using the same ineffective strategy when it's causing them to lose battles, so unless they really are idiots they should be starting to wise up by now.
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Having pc issues. Haven't forgotten about The Purrfect girl catgirl story. I haven't been working on it either, as I have to deal with being evicted and getting several items out of the pawnshop. Just letting whoever I was writing it for know that I haven't forgotten about it. and do plan to finish it still.
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>>7292057
The cultural component would still make them desperately terrible soldiers, to the point where I honestly can't think of any reason to actually use them beyond "there aren't enough krell available and we're out of claymore mines", because those two things do their job better and without invariably turning on their commanders at the first opportunity
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>>7291828
>So the elves are assholes in this universe as well huh?
Not all of them, just the ones playing pirate.

>Well, what are some of the native sapient species?
Humans, goblins, dragon kin like kobolds, Stone men, doppelgangers, various other monstrous races like snake and cat people.
I still need to decide on more, but no Gnolls or orcs.
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>>7283633
>>>7283622
>no defending fanfiction or rule 63, but don't put down vanilla. Remember, it's erotic fiction general, not Alternative hentai fiction general
Erotic fiction general on the alt hentai board
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>>7292213
You're just ignoring everything I'm saying now, so I'm going to stop responding.

>>7292369
If you've read the books you should know that the Borealans aren't exactly getting a fair shake, they're pretty much being exploited in exchange for regional status and junk ships.

Honestly the whole perception you guys have of them being "badass" is completely assumed, and isn't based on the events of the stories, that or you're being extremely selective in what you choose to criticize.

>>7292379
They have changed their strategy, see Purple Heart where a Borealan squad gets wiped by one previously unencountered Bug warrior.

Never once said they were invincible or immune to injury, again the events of the stories contradict that statement, which makes me think you haven't read them. The Krell fuck up Borealans in Pinwheel, several of them are injured and killed in Splashdown, a whole squad gets minced in Purple Heart. I don't see how being resistant to knife wounds and pistol fire makes them "walking tanks" when there are many examples of them being killed and injured.
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>>7292495
>Not all of them, just the ones playing pirate.
Please elaborate.

Is there magic in this world? I don't want to assume but it seems like an environment that would lend itself to mysticism.
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>>7292508
I think that most people are just bothered by the regeneration.

Most don't seem to care about their strength or their stature but mainly that they don't need medical attention for bullet wounds, so maybe getting rid of the supernatural level of regeneration would satisfy people? Just a suggestion, I still love your stories.
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>>7292525
I think it's more the
>humans can't do anything to hurt or resist them ever
Thing that's activating people's almonds
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>>7292531
That's a completely valid complaint, and though I tried to address that in Purple Heart I probably didn't do as good of a job as people wanted from that scenario.
That's a case of me letting fetish material subvert the plot, which depending on your stance may or may not be acceptable when writing smut.
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>>7292462
Sorry to hear. Take your time.
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>>7292517
>Please elaborate.
The guys deciding to pillage an entire world hired on as many assholes who knew how to fight as possible. Anyone from Nazi level genocidal fucks looking for excuses to kill non-elves to mercenaries that maybe started to have second thoughts after arriving.

Those back home where they came from? Not necessarily the same level of assholes.

>Is there magic in this world?
There's some basic magic, mostly offensive stuff. Enough to take out a tank or put a hole in a city wall would be as strong as it gets. Most of it requires a focus.
Healing is rarer. It can patch people up or repair internal injuries, but won't rebuild missing limbs or organs.

Anything more powerful isn't directly controlled. Summoning the wrath of the gods is difficult, time consuming and doesn't really have pinpoint accuracy.
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>>7291536
>focus on third person single

Bleh. Just when I wanted to write more first-person PoV. I'll keep it in mind for next time. Thanks for the info.
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>>7292549
Honestly I think 95% of these complaints would disappear after just two things happen in a story, maybe the krell one would be an excellent opportunity
The first is a regular human no-selling a borlean rape attempt, just something as simple as them noticing a second early and putting a couple.45s to the lungs, for once
The second would literally just be an equatorial displaying something resembling empathy, just showing that they've adjusted to human culture and morality for real and aren't just faking it.
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>>7292549
Since your goal is to make the setting stand on its own merits even without the smut, it's not going to be as acceptable as it would be if your stance was "fuck it, this is an excuse for porn". It's even more glaring that they're always depicted as having an advantage against humans specifically, with the one exception being due to the same cybernetic augmentation you said you were reluctant to depict. They may be beaten by other aliens, but it's the humans- the characters the readers are intended to identify with- that consistently get put down and made to look like weak, spineless, emasculated wretches who can't do anything that might oppose Borealeans, either due to their sheer physical strength or their knack for emotional manipulation disgused as "caring". (Seriously, the Polars can be perfectly interpreted as being masters of emotional manipulation who merely fake their kindness in order to get their way.)

Plus, even with superfast regeneration, getting shot HURTS. It only takes a moment of being doubled over in pain for the guy who shot you to run for it- or finish the job.

>>7292580
Worlds Apart was so close to the second one, but failed right when it needed to pull it off most. His explanation of "instincts to dominate always win, no exceptions" to justify it wasn't convincing then, and still isn't convincing now.
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>>7292608
>Worlds Apart
I had almost managed to forget "snek NTRs /efg/'s heart with bimbofication: the story"
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>>7292608
I'm not going to change my stance on nature vs nurture. You can take the Borealan out of the jungle but you can't take the jungle out of the Borealan.

As for human characters appearing weak, they are! They're completely powerless when faced with an eight foot, 600lb monster made of muscle and death whose only desire is to rape them until they start to like it.
That's what gets my rocks off, and it's the reason the setting exists, in order to facilitate that (and other) fantasies.
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Would anyone be interested in writing a consensual orc-on-elf gangbang request?
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>>7292771
And you haven't realized that some people don't want to keep hearing that humans are puny weaklings who are completely at the mercy of the rapecats and can do literally nothing to stop them other than enjoy being raped?

The only way to stop all those complaints is to give those weak human characters a chance to actually win on their own terms for a change, and not look like they're the ones being dominated and controlled despite all the claims to the contrary you keep making. Either you suck it up and make them just a little less invincible to human attack, or you can just stop bothering to respond to criticism so nobody tries to bring it up again.
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>>7292795
If you don't like that aspect of the setting then don't read the stories that feature those elements, I've done like twelve Borealan stories so far, it can't come as a surprise.
While that is the main focus of my stories I am working hard to provide alternatives for people with different tastes where I have the time, consensual stuff like in Worlds Apart and Crashland, different flavors of femdom with the Polars and the Warband/Ghost stories, maledom, traps, etc.
I've also got three more species that cater to different fetishes lined up, Krell are gonna be tf/traps/futa, Brokers are gonna be tentacles and probably some exhibitionism, Betelgeusians I'm thinking maybe slavery, but that one is still on the drawing board.

I enjoy writing rape cats, and they're the most well received of all my work by far, so I'm not going to be drastically changing their personalities any time soon. I am however hard at work on alternatives which I hope will be more in line with what you enjoy.
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>>7292823
Yo snek, when's grave goods going off hiatus?
Also for the upcoming krell story are you going with a male or female protagonist?
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>>7292835
I've actually started work on the Krell story already, you can read it here: http://pastebin.com/hE1muHCb
(no tags yet)
It has a female protag, but there are male characters too, it's going to follow a research team so there should be opportunities for every pairing under the sun.

Currently my schedule is looking like Snek 4, Krell, Shiny's next commission, GG.
The reason I keep postponing GG is that it's a favor for a friend who I'll be staying with for a couple of months, probably in April, so it should be good fun to continue writing it with their input (and also I can involve them in the process rather than ignoring them for several hours a day and being a shitty guest).
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>>7292849
How much snek remains?
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>>7292861
Only about 5000 words now.
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>>7292823
Look, I'm not asking for a radical overhaul, just something to show that humans can in fact put up a fight against them if they're clever or well-equipped or fight dirty, and that they don't need another rapecat's help to do any of those things. (That applies to polars too, emotional manipulation and coercion is still rape.)

Is it so hard to make them seem less insufferably perfect compared to humans in that one respect?
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>>7292849
>Currently my schedule is looking like Snek 4, Krell, Shiny's next commission, GG.
What about that batch of short fics you were talking about a while ago? After GG?
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>>7292916
Yeah I'll try to fit those in as well, female pilot visits the polar outpost and bangs Zagza, Raz visits Stanley's farm, I got some others written down too.
Not gonna lie working on the VN is kind of running me ragged right now.
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>>7292956
>Not gonna lie working on the VN is kind of running me ragged right now.
Didn't even know you were doing a VN, neat.
How far along are you?
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>>7292956
Just put everything, other than the vn, on hold.
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>>7292849
>It has a female protag

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT MAN!

I was looking forward to the Krell stories too.
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>>7292960
Early days at the moment, but I've got two artists and a musician onboard, and I've completed a playable prototype (without art ofc) which you can play here: https://snekguy.itch.io/pinwheel-test

>>7292967
Well I still want to do 2000 word updates a day, otherwise there would be like a year without any new stories.

>>7292983
There are male scientists in the team too, I'm gonna be switching perspectives a lot.
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>>7292956
Speaking of the short bits, I've got another idea that goes with one that you've already put on the list
>schafer decides he could use a damn drink and asks the supply guys to toss a couple cases of whisky in the next shipment
>he and runt are hanging out and drinking it when scarface shows up, thirsty for schafer
>she decides she's going to take some of their booze and drink it herself
>turns out she's actually an extremely affectionate drunk and her telling schafer that she's sorry humans don't have tails and hugging runt and telling him about how she wants to teach him to fish ends up turning into a sloppy, cuddly threesome, with lots of two-on-one oral and schafer getting sandwiched between the two of them
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>>7292996
Whisky would probably kill them. Did you forget how Borealens don't have anywhere near the alcohol tolerance humans do?
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>>7293000
>Did you forget how Borealens don't have anywhere near the alcohol tolerance humans do?
Since when?
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>>7293007
Ah, so you haven't read Fineprint. In short, Borelaens have alcohol, but it's so weak it's pretty much strawberry milk. Humans are actually rather unique on Earth when it comes to how high a tolerance we have compared to other animals.
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>>7292869
You don't need Snek to show it, it's pretty logical how humans would take down giant rape cats. Same way you take out or disable any large opponent. Martial arts was already shown as effective, and quite a few throws and grabs depend more on their opponent's momentum and stupidity than the user's.

Alternately, you shoot them in the knees and elbows. Sure, small arms fire won't take them out, but I'm sure shattering a kneecap or elbow joint would incapacitate them long enough for you to find somewhere safe. The downside is that it requires accuracy - but highly aroused rapecats are stupid, you just let them crawl on top and then grab your pistol from under the mattress. With their knees right there, it's not like you'd need to be a master marksman. Too scared to gun? Get a suitable, sharp knife. Go for tendons, joints, major arteries.

And who knows what sorts of irritants and chemical weapons we'll have by then. Giant-rape-cat pepper spray, giant rape cat poison, giant rape cat whistles that only sound on frequencies they can hear.

God, it's like you've never been out hunting monsters.
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>>7293014
No, I haven't yet. Replace whisky with beer, then.
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>>7293016
Another way is having a giant rape cat with you to defend you and then rape both you and the other giant rape cat.
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>>7292771


>As for human characters appearing weak, they are! They're completely powerless when faced with an eight foot, 600lb monster made of muscle and death


I see how it is Snek. I see how it is :c
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>>7293016
Oh, and I didn't bring up Polars in this because how fucking hard is it for you guys to imagine saying no to sex? Just say no. Politely refuse. Sleep in whatever vehicle brought you to their lands, and lock the doors. Drink and eat only familiar foods, and sample from many dishes if they are presented to reduce the chance of some kind of Polar roofie. Always travel in teams of three.
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>>7293034

Apparently it's extremely hard and if a polar somehow gets you to say yes without you being under duress, it's still rape. Consent somehow doesn't count, even if you're saying yes the whole time through the sex?

Some of the people in this thread have some sjw tier definitions of rape
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>>7292996
>two-on-one oral
Yes, perfect. I want this
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>>7292996
That sounds fun, I'll put it in the queue.
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>>7293066

Yo snek, you think it would be worth it if I wrote another "human resists/stops a borealan rape" scene? With all the whining in the thread about them being invincible/unstoppable I figure it's time I got off my ass and contributed again, especially as I've got a couple of new ideas for the scenes.
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>>7293016
Yeah, and then have the magic regeneration power let them get back up as if you did nothing more than kick them in the shins. The way he writes them, it would take ten times the amount of force needed to incapacitate a human to do the same thing to a rapecat, and if they're practically bulletproof it stands to follow that they're probably knifeproof too.

And keep in mind those martial arts were performed by a guy who had already been cybernetically augmented. That is to say, he was no longer possessed of merely human strength. But in any event, the question is why you have to justify it instead of Snek showing it. That would go a long way of not making them look like rapist Mary Sues.

>>7293048
Emotional manipulation is a thing. How do you know they're not just bullshitting you about it or just tempting you? They can't just be nice to total strangers for no reason, they have to have some ulterior motive for it.

>>7293101
No, let Snek do it himself. He doesn't need a cheerleader to do it for him.
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>>7293101
Your last one was garbage, hopefully you've improved.
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>>7293107
They can definitely be nice for no reason, humans do that all the time. It's called altruism. And hell, the reasons could be as simple as "you're interesting/hot" or just being impressed


>No, let Snek do it himself. He doesn't need a cheerleader to do it for him.

He doesn't need it written just like he didn't need it the first time, I'm just asking is he wants it.
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>>7293131

Nope, I'm still garbage, and I also labeled the story as such.
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>>7293107
>But in any event, the question is why you have to justify it instead of Snek showing it.

The dude's knee-deep in paid commissions, writing anything outside of those is wasting time and money, my friend. Also, I like to build worlds. That involves taking the worlds apart as well, to show whineposters like you that he's never described the speed of rapecat regeneration so we're just speculating about a pretendy space cat race that can clearly be handled by anyone prepared. You could take that small gun or knife and hit them right under the jaw too while they ride you, by the way. Unless they can regenerate brain cells, rape crisis averted. Your lack of imagination and incessant complaints doesn't mean a human could never stop a rapecat.
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>>7293159
Or, even more simply, notice the signs that they're about to attack and ventilate their lungs before they pounce
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I find it funny all these people complaining about Borelaens and fapping to the idea of murdering them act as if everyone is carrying a knife/gun or multiple of them on their person at all times.
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>>7293159

This. A bunch of my ideas involve conventional weapons being used at the right time and place, they're not useless and Regen doesn't mean shit for RIGHT NOW unless it's instant, which I severely doubt.
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>>7293172

You should visit America, particularly Texas.
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>>7293175
I live in El Paso
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>>7293172
What coastal hell do you live in? Here in flyover country, we're practically made out of guns. I have more than one gun for every hundred square feet I own. I would honestly have a hard time finding someone I know that DOESN'T carry a gun at all times.
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>>7293178

You live in el paso and you're laughing at the thought of everyone walking around with guns? Do you actually go outside ever?
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>>7293172
Well, it's canon that everyone is armed on the pinwheel in case of boarding, which is the high-contact zone for cats.
Plus considering how reliably untrustworthy borleans are, only utter morons would be unarmed around them in the field or elsewhere
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>>7293189
Or people with high-tier taste.

>not going around kicking random Borelans in the shins so they'll fuck you ragged

>not needing to use tinder ever again because there's always a rapecat within 200 feet who will bang you into unconsciousness if you walk up behind her and pull her tail

>not finding the chick with the biggest tits and casually telling her she looks like a pussy and you think you could take her

Pinwheel is a fucking paradise.
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>>7292578
Or first person, either works. The limited senses works perfectly fine with either. The point is "limited".
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>>7293198
Be funny if this "training" made the guy stupidly tough/pain resistant. Like he gets captured and tortured but laughs off the torture because of all Borealen snu snu he had.
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I write stories about F/f humiliation, dominance, and degradation with strong mind control elements. For example, in one of my stories a girl ends up stuck as a depraved errand girl for a woman she used to torment in high school. That's

http://www.mcstories.com/HerNewSubordinate/index.html

In another, a woman takes control of a coffee house and turns all the women employees into sex slaves of the people they used to despise. Social activist ends up a low-paid prostitute for rich men, Chinese cultural critic ends up the plaything of the men she used to criticize. That's

https://www.literotica.com/s/her-coffee-slave

I'm open to any feedback and requests that fit within my genre. I like foot fetish, humiliation, bondage, sci-fi elements, drop in social status, sexual servitude, chastity, and control. Also have a patreon that has more of my work
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Crap the "girl stuck as depraved servant girl for woman she used to torment" is actually

http://www.mcstories.com/MorePermanentPosition/index.html

The "Her New Subordinate" is basically a woman taking control of a volleyball girl's life using a symbiote and turning her into her own personal sex slave.
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>>7293135
How about you have the human win using intelligence and skill instead of technology and chance.
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Imagine if Borealens were taught how to play strip poker. Then imagine a polar learns to play too.
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>>7293189
>considering how reliably untrustworthy borleans are

This made me laugh.
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>>7293172
>not carrying guns and knives all the time
>not spending your idle time thinking of how to hunt the hunters

Are you going to tell me you've never skinned a deer now? Though honestly murder is not my fetish, I just like worldbuilding. And guns.
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>>7293260
Not a deer, but I have butchered a snapping turtle to make soup. Also have some experience with cutting fish up too.
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>>7292557
That's some really loose justification for the Elves.

What do the Elves have that this magical world or various species doesn't?
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>>7293172
While I do love the idea of killing Borelaens I don't fap to it, it's mainly that I love when skill triumphs over strength.
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>>7293164
Good. So he can show it in passing, mention it in dialog by some random person who saw it happen and is recounting it. That's all it would take, and his refusal to even do that is just laziness. For a guy who prides himself on his 2000 word updates, it's strange that he can't be bothered to insert a few sentences somewhere describing a scenario where his rapecats are taken down a peg by ordinary humans, as opposed to his other Mary Sue races.
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>>7293234

Yep, that's in 2 of my potential ideas, and another where they don't use a weapon at all and do it entirely through dialogue.
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>>7285058
Jesus Christ that Futa sister one was hot as fuck.
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>>7293133
With literal aliens whose motives are unknown and who you have absolutely no reason to trust? That's not altruism, that's either having a ulterior motive or being too trusting to live.

If I was stuck with them, I would spend every second wondering when they'll strap me to a rack and work me over with a blowtorch.

>>7293281
I just want them taken down a peg and realize that the squishy monkeys could nuke them into oblivion the moment they outlive their usefulness. Without the bugs, they're worthless.

>>7293292
>winning against a rapecat
>when author fiat dictates that can never, ever happen

Unless the author explicitly says it's possible, it won't be. He has the last word, your hypotheticals aside.
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>>7293292
Jiu Jutsu would prove effective against them. Going for the eyes would also prove extremely effective, if push comes to shove then just bite their tongue off then when they're screaming in pain tear out their jugular.
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>>7293298

>With literal aliens whose motives are unknown and who you have absolutely no reason to trust? That's not altruism, that's either having a ulterior motive or being too trusting to live.

Being too trusting to live does mean you cannot be altruistic.


>Unless the author explicitly says it's possible, it won't be. He has the last word, your hypotheticals aside.

I've done it once, I can do it again. Snek just needs a little guidance in the right direction of believable possibilities.
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>>7293305
>just bite their tongue off
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>>7293310
What you did was put out a hypothetical scenario, which he promptly made some nice compliments about and then completely disregarded in all his other work.
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Snek 4:
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>>7293131
>>7293135
Well I thought it was written just fine, and I didn't even know who had written it when I reviewed it.

Sure you can write another if you want to, it's always interesting to see these scenarios from a different perspective. I might be a bit delayed in reading it though, had a hectic few days and I've not even gotten around to reading Cynical's update yet.

>>7293198
This guy gets it.

>>7293226
>>7293228
I'll check these out when I have time.

>>7293298
It's already happened in several scenarios, saying that Borealans are infallible and invincible is pure hyperbole, they've died or been out-fought dozens of times. Having people gun them down in cold blood for looking at them funny feels like poor taste and more of a reflection of your personal feelings than anything I think a character would do. I wouldn't enjoy writing that. If there's a scenario where having the character successfully resist becomes necessary, then that's what I'll write, but until then I'm not changing their behavior.
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>>7293286
It's ok, your bitching just gets his setting and works more publicity, more carefully read through, and generates ever more conversation centered on him. I will never understand these randos who hate Snek so much they have to find a new thing to pick at every thread, but I love their ability to give me more reasons to talk about settings.

We covered why he isn't writing about it, dude. Here's your (You), you can go off and write your own rapecat stories now where humans are fucking them up left and right.

But then you'd be giving his work fanfiction, wouldn't you?
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>>7293331
>they've died or been out-fought dozens of times

But never by ordinary, unaugmented humans using intelligence and cunning, only by aliens bigger and tougher than them. Do you know nothing at all about Humanity Fuck Yeah? Nobody wants to see them gunned own en masse, I just want to see you depict one one trying to rape a human and failing due to superior human cunning and intellect.

You don't even have to depict it in a fic directly, just have some guy talk about seeing it happen once. That's it. Just worldbuilding stuff.

>>7293334
>talk about setting
FTFY, nobody ever talks about settings made by people like Cynical or D. even though theirs are just as good as Snek's. What's he got that they don't have, other than the obsessed furry audience?
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>>7293348
>one of the annoying/whiny HFY faggots
yeah, I figured
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>>7293352
It's a natural reaction to pro-ayylmao wanking. Not everyone likes having their species shat on endlessly, even in smut.
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>>7293354
and turning humans into generic elves with how much better they are at everything makes them boring mary sues which ruined a lot of the fun of hfy threads back then and now
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>>7293355
Good, then we'd at least have both humans and aliens being depicted as Mary Sues. If I'm going to be reading about characters whose flaws never hold them back in the story and who are given author privilege to ignore anything that might inconvenience them, it should at least be someone I might be slightly able to identify with rather than a bipedal fleabag.
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>>7293348
>What's he got that they don't have, other than the obsessed furry audience?

Why, you guys, the obsessed opposite. People constantly bitching about his stuff or asking questions. You want other settings discussed in detail? Start bitching about them or asking about them. Really stay on their ass, more than you ride Snek's dick. Hell, ask stupid questions like 'can a human even stop a rapecat ever?'.

And if it doesn't take? If no one gives a shit once you've put in all that effort?

Then I guess they just weren't worth discussing on the thread. Them's the breaks. You idiots have kind of rolled this shitball so hard downhill that the momentum easily stops other conversations and posts in their tracks. But I guess you never thought about that. Here's a human fucking an alien for you, since that seems to be your jam.
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>>7293358
>Then I guess they just weren't worth discussing on the thread

Who decides what's worth discussing in this thread? If a community is to thrive, all authors should be given the same treatment
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>>7293358
>I guess they just weren't worth discussing on the thread

Or those discussions got crowded out by circlejerking over rapecats, because clearly you never tried attempting to start a discussion when nobody else even notices it over all the catbeast fixation. Maybe if the obsessed furries actually waited long enough for people to ask those questions without feeling that it was impossible to get a word in edgewise, they might not have to deal with those complaints.

>>7293365
Don't be silly, Snek alone is the only person to have ever made a setting worth discussion and every other author has to be content with three posts before any discussion is drowned in a sea of shit only Shiny and his fellow furfags want to talk about.

It must be the other writefags' fault that Snek's fans have zero self-control and can't make their own thread for their idol in which they don't have to listen to others asking for their turn to discuss things.
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>>7293348
Why are you bringing up other writers and making it into a competition?
Those authors all write drastically different subjects and genres, from slice of life to futa gangbangs.
Same reason more people discuss 40k than discuss K-On!, not only is that an extremely shortsighted statement, but you're implying that those writers lack something when there isn't even any basis for comparison. They're not trying to accomplish remotely the same goal as Snek.
When someone else comes in and tries to make an OC sci-fi universe, and nobody discusses it, then you can make comparisons and complain, otherwise it's just apples and oranges.
There's nothing wrong with what other authors are writing, their stories simply inspire less discussion and speculation, which has no reflection on their quality whatsoever there's simply less to discuss.
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>>7293373
Go to bed and sleep it off, AA.
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>>7293377
Or maybe you just keep overlooking them because you never bother to read anything not made by Snek.
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>>7293373
So your solution to people talking too much about snek and his stories is to talk about snek and stories?
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>>7293226
I have a huge fetish for F/f mind control, so please keep posting here. If you're looking for ideas, I've always wanted to see more stories leverage the idea of malicious hacking of a gynoid or augmented human. I despise identity death and actual compulsion, but find the idea of a woman being broken by forced orgasms incredibly arousing, particularly if the final choice to serve is made consciously. There is nothing better than a defenseless woman being forced into so much pleasure that she consciously chooses to serve.
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>>7293379
What the hell are you talking about? I forgot I even had this tab open until a moment ago.
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>>7293381
You're comparing Star Trek and Love Actually, it's stupid, and nonsensical.

>why won't anyone discuss Hugh Grant all you guys talk about is fucking Darth Vader and "oh would a Wookie be able to beat a Jedi?"
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>>7293377
What if an author specifically asks for feedback to improve? How can that not at least spark discussion? Should they just take the silence and stagnate? Unable to improve themselves because of a lingering circlejerk
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>>7293379
AA has no self-preservation instinct and will post with a name on under absolutely any circumstances. He strikes me as the kind of person who would ask his boss if he could go take a shit. He is the absolute last person I would blame anything on.
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>>7293398
If you haven't noticed, there's not too many people here willing to put in the effort to give meaningful feedback. For the most part, people just want to read a finished product and be done. Snek is appealing due to volume, popular fetishes, and constantly cranking out an 80% satisfactory work. There's a bunch of people willing to bitch about the missing 20%, but very few willing to help any other writer make up the difference.
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>>7293398
I've seen plenty of feedback, feedback=/=discussion.

If there's nothing to speculate about then where does the discussion come from? That doesn't make the story bad, again take a movie as an example.

La La Land just won a bunch of awards, does that mean scifi nerds should speculate at length about the characters and their interactions, and present fictional scenarios about the setting?

No, because it's a fucking musical, there's nothing to discuss. Does that mean it's a bad movie because people discuss the Marvel extended universe more? Of course not, you're just making an absurd comparison that doesn't need to be made.

I can watch the best porno of my life and have absolutely nothing to discuss after the fact, should I be speculating at length about whether the plumber actually fixed the toilet?

Really it's completely absurd, Snek is making a scifi setting, and for that reason it inspires discussion. That doesn't mean his writing is the best or that people like him more than everyone else who posts, it just means he made a goddamned scifi setting.
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>>7293419
And the other scifi settings that don't inspire ddiscussion? Or the fantasy settings that are just as well-thought? Or even his own Grave Goods, which isn't sci-fi unless you're using the loosest possible definition?
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>>7293419
Don't forget to take into account different fetishes. People who dislike dickgirl shit sure as hell aren't going to be talking about D's stories.
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>>7293424
Pulp fiction might be the term you're looking for for that sort of setting
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>>7293365
The community does, stupid. Your idea that 'all authors should be treated equally' is severely showing your spectrum. That isn't how anything works. Popular things can be shit, and good things can remain in the shadows for fucking ever. Compare SAO and Log Horizon, for instance. Not that I think Snek's work is shit, it just isn't my cup of tea, and I only dive into these conversations to poke at you guys and your very, very strange ideas on what a community is, how popular vote works, and why those things might not swing in your favor, no matter how much you post. But keep trying!

>>7293373
Sorry my friend, if there just aren't enough of you talking about different stuff, this kind of conversation and extreme thread meta is all you'll get, and all you'll ever be seen as are 'the bunch of people who whine about Snek every thread'. Try being productive, make your own alien rape setting, vet it before the thread. The results may or may not surprise you.
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>>7293427
>Although many respected writers wrote for pulps, the magazines were best known for their lurid, exploitative, and sensational subject matter

Gee, I wonder who that sounds like.
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>>7293430
And you get even more of this shitposting if they feel any attempt at non-snek discussion will be doomed to fail because it can't get anyone's attention without it being drowned in Snek talk.

You have to make that other discussion seem welcome if you want to see it first, as opposing to just saying it is and then ignoring it when it does happen as is always the case here. Don't act as if you're so blameless because you're pretending to take a middle ground.
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>>7293442
No need to pretend, my ground is pretty medium. I've spent some of my time encouraging writers with content I liked, I've given feedback on ideas. I just got tired of you guys pinning Snek as some great satan because his stuff got popular and you didn't like it, because that's what it has boiled down to, or at least it very much quacks and swims like that. As for making things seem welcome, this is /d/. I can't think of a more accepting board. Nobody has been bullied off of this thread for their shit writing or bad fetishes, not even ND, who was welcomed.

A protip to you: If you put half as much effort into your work and talking about it/asking the thread about it, you might be the next great satan. And then you will control the thread and all discussions within!
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>>7293398
I would legitimately love some constructive feedback, but maybe everyone here is too nervous about making waves.
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>>7293459
And if people put half the effort into making discussion about other settings, shit like this wouldn't happen. Takes two to make a new great satan, one to write shit and one to actually get the discussion started.

Unless you imply that his would-be replacement should just samefag all their discussions, that is. In which case they'd be a dozen times worse.
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>>7293424
What other scifi settings?
Name one from a different author because I don't know any.

>>7293442
If you spent even half the time you spend complaining about Snek talking about other authors, you would have solved your own problem ten times over by now.
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>>7293466
The one by Parallax with the cyborg monstergirl comes to mind, unless scifi also means having a convoluted metaplot that goes nowhere in addition to being its own story.
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>>7293392

AA you know I love you man but we haven't forgotten when you straight up admitted to being the guy behind all the "wahhhh snek needs his own thread because people's discussion posts about things that aren't snek writing magically disappear as soon as people start discussing snek's writing!"

Mysteriously popping up to defend yourself the exact moment someone mentions you in a thread that you supposedly forgot you had in your tabs isn't exactly helping your case either.
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>>7293228

I'm not really into this and it was very good. Original set up and over all plot, along with fairly good characters. My only complaint would be make it less obvious what was happening early on.
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>>7293462
Gimme some links and I'll get to reading when I've got a moment. Anything in particular you'd want focused on?
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>>7293470
You can't even remember the name of it. Not suggesting that reflects poorly on the author, just on you for claiming to have examples and not even being able to remember what they were called while bitching that people "don't pay attention to other authors". Clearly you didn't pay attention either or you'd remember the name.

>unless scifi also means having a convoluted metaplot that goes nowhere in addition to being its own story.

I am so embarrassed for you right now.
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>>7293488
The Repairman, it's called. Happy now?

>thinking sci-fi needs to be this big grand setting instead of a self-contained thing

Not everyone can be as ambitious as Snek
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>>7293492
>Ambitious

Don't fucking kid yourself, his world is extremely generic and only serves to cater to a fetish. It's not deep, or game-changing
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>>7293492
>Not everyone can be as ambitious as Snek

Which is why people aren't discussing other settings as much as his.

Oh my god, we've solved the mystery!
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>>7293493
That settles it. To be popular on /efg/, you just need to pander to the lowest common denominator with excuse plots, paper-thin characters. and no intention of telling any story beyond "and then they fucked".
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>>7293494
They don't need to discuss settings, but feedback is important for writers to improve
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>>7293462
I'm responsible for well over half of the in-depth criticism in this thread, and am far from afraid from making waves. The issue is that I'm terribly busy with real life, preferentially help new writers, and your stuff is just a hair outside of my strike zone. I'd love to look at more of your stuff, but I'm afraid that I'm not the best suited to review your stuff.
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>>7293500
Would it be okay to ask for feedback if you haven't for my story yet?
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>>7293498
Would you agree that discussion and feedback are completely different things though?
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>>7293509
Yes, but the thread shouldn't be all discussion focusing on one subject
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>>7293504
Lamias are practically my favorite fetish. I just haven't had the time to get around to your stuff, as it is neither an absolute trainwreck, nor is it only one degree off. I'll do my best to get to it this week, but I work eleven-hour days. For the sake of clarity, I'll probably try to just call out Love Coils in the next thread.
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>>7293479
Here's the compendium.
http://pastebin.com/zp36qvB8

My newest work is the still-in-progress "The Grande Futapest Hotel." I'd like some feedback on that, but... since that's commissioned, it's not likely to be changed.

Otherwise, read anything you like and tell me what you think.

>>7293500
Even if you're not best suited, I saw go for it, if you have the time. I'd like a perspective different from my own.
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>>7293516
>For the sake of clarity, I'll probably try to just call out Love Coils in the next thread.

Little confused on the wording there, whaddya mean by that?
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>>7293493
>>7293497
Really the bitterness is palpable.
If you have such low self-esteem that seeing other people succeed sends you into this kind of jealous rage you should probably reevaluate some things.

>complain about his popularity and that people won't stop talking about his work to the point that it drowns out all other discussion
>in the same breath talk about him in a condescending tone as if his writing is childish and trite compared to what you're capable of

Why don't you make something people want to discuss then? Oh wait you can't.
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>>7293536
>Oh wait you can't.

How about you take a moment to consider that the best fic ever can still be completely overlooked simply because nobody will shut up about hte competition long enough to hear about it? Discussions shouldn't need to be about one group of people trying to shout over another group just to be heard.

Or are we still in this dimension where it's fine to samefag in the name of creating discussion?
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>>7293529
I just drank an entire damn growler of barleywine, so I really can't blame you there; it was probably unclear. When the new thread starts, I'll dump what will probably be a multi-post criticism of Love Coils, complete with a link to the pastebin. Give me a day or so after the new thread, and it should be no problem. With any luck, I may get to it before that, but I make no promises. Is there anything in particular that you want me to be looking for? As a general rule, I don't do grammar checks unless asked specifically, as it is time intensive and usually can't be done in the thread. If not, I'll just pick out what I consider to be most significant and work from there.
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>>7293553
Nah, nothing too specific, just give whatever thoughts you have
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>>7293542
Sounds more personal to me, like you think something you wrote deserves the same level of attention but it's not getting it. You should improve your own work rather than get angry at people you feel are competing for attention.

There's no "shouting" on an imageboard, absolutely nothing prevents or inhibits discussion in any way. Everyone is free to discuss whatever they want, and apparently that's mostly Snek.

You're doing it right now!
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>>7293562
>implying everyone annoyed by this is a jealous writefag

This is literally a FF.net-tier argument.

>UR JUST JEALOUS CUZ YOU'RE NOT AS GOOD AS ME!!1!
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>>7293553
forgot to add, I hope ya enjoy it!
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>>7293566
That might be true if your tone wasn't so obviously bitter.

Really it's the condescension that gives you away.
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>>7293574
You'd be bitter too if your favorite author got no recognition either despite all of your best efforts to start up discussion.
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>>7293577
Yeah okay, your "favorite author", I'm sure they appreciate how strongly you feel about their recognition.
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>>7293574
Thee's no "tone" in text.
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>>7293578
That suggests he hasn't fucked off like half the writefags on this thread have done over the past few months.

Funny how that coincides with Snek's meteoric rise to being the darling of the thread, doesn't it?
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>>7293595
More like it coincides with the thread regularly descending into Snek rants exactly like this one because apparently a lot of people here have extremely fragile egos and when faced with someone who is more successful than them, their knee-jerk reaction is irrational hatred.

The guy hasn't actually done anything to incur this wrath besides post his stories and inspire discussion.

He's not the one shitposting and driving newcomers away, you are.
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>>7293607
as opposed to inanities like
>tfw no polar gf
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>>7293607
Last I checked, most people tend to do that after being ignored for a long enough time. Especially creative types, being over-emotional is a fucking prerequisite for the job.
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>>7293609
You act like that can apply to borealens when those sort of posts happen with just about any character/creature/fetish/etc. Also, krell are going the new big discussion topic soon too.
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>>7293614
>implying people will care when there's no furry femdom
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>>7293609
The intended purpose of this general is for authors to post their stories, and for readers to read and discuss them.
People are discussing them, if you think the specific quantity of their discussion is appropriate or not, or that attention is a finite resource that should be metered out to everyone in equal doses is besides the point.

I think it's great to see someone rise to prominence like this in so short a time, and I think it's great that his work inspires so much discussion. People enjoy it, they enjoy reading it and talking about it, all you're doing is screaming for those people to stop enjoying it and stop interacting with eachother.

Nobody was ever going to respond well to you being the fun Gestapo, not Snekfags nor anyone who has ever liked anything.
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>>7293621
Think he's becoming a big fish in a small pond?
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>>7293627
the pond is infinite, even more so with how slow /d/ has become too
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>>7293595
As someone who thinks that Snek is an asshole and his sycophants are one of the worst things to happen to this thread since the move to /d/, I can honestly say that I don't think that he is to blame. We lost a large number of writers during the move. We lose even more due to real life. Our replacement rate is low and our attenuation rate high, as is the norm for this kind of thread. We are still seeking our steady state on this board. This too shall come to pass.

>>7293607
There are far, far more people who dislike Snek than there are writers here. You and your ilk act as though there is some personal motivation that inspires people to complain about him. This is 4chan, the place where people bitch loudly about any number of things. We don't like him, for any number of reasons. People rush to his defense, for any number of reasons. The argument doesn't end because there is no incentive to do so. We're all anonymous, so what do we have to lose? We have no reason to stop complaining, and you have no reason to stop accusing us of all being jilted writefags. The sooner you get over yourself and stop thinking that you're innocent in this, the better we will all be. People are allowed to disagree with you. Snek is not William Gibson.
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>>7293628
that implies he has any real competition on /efg/

he clearly doesn't
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>>7293609
>>7293614
Oh boy you done gone done it now son.

Just you wait I'm gonna provide the thickest, fattest scaly asses the world has ever seen, baby. There's gonna more junk in the badonkadonk than you might have thunk.

Get up, come on get down with the thickness.
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>>7293631
Why would they even want to suck up to him so badly? He'll favor his commissioners at the expense of anyone else either way and it's not like he's going to reward them for their supposed loyalty.
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>>7293632
>he's too popular
>people discuss him too much
>he posts updates too frequently
>he writes too much
>his fans are too vocal

Are these complaints or are they some kind of reverse psychology?

>Billy can't come to our party, he's far too handsome and well-spoken, that asshole

>>7293638
He's postponed commissions to do free stuff for /efg/.
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>>7293644
Have you learned in school why monopolies are bad for business in the long run?

He's done that, but with smut.
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>>7293647
This by far one of stupidest things written so far. There is literally nothing stopping anyone from writing for these threads and also nothing stopping people from writing with the same genres/fetishes/similar creatures has snek does.
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>>7293636


Count me in for funding this, I want to do my part in helping you get an artist that will do the Krell proper justice.the world is in extremely short supply of thick/fat and wide scaly asses.

Also, on an unrelated note, if an equatorial had it's arm kicked in from behind the elbow to the point where the bone snapped and it was now bending backwards with torn muscles and ligaments along the way, how would it react?

I need to know this for reasons.
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>>7293651
But there is. It's the fear that nobody will read their stuff because Snekguy is the only person they ever show interest in under any circumstance.

Why bother trying to start writing when it's so obvious your presence won't even register to the thread? Nobody wants to constantly be in someone else's shadow.
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>>7293651
What's the point in writing stories if no one is going to bother reading them.
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>>7293519
Not the other guy, but I've read some of your stuff.

pacing is usually good
characters are a little 1D
plot progression is obvious without any twists or turns
more description would be a plus, use those adjectives especially during sex scenes man!

Other than that, it's pretty ok. Futa isn't really my thing either and you got my attention long enough to read a few stories
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>it's a people still hating on snek episode

Lame.

Guys I've run into a road block with my dialogue, I can't seem to make it feel natural or even forced.
It just comes out as bland and uninspiring, at worse it runs on endlessly.

What do?
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>>7281995
do any of the rest of you visit the voice thread or write short stories for the people in there?
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>>7293657
Hush, you'll trigger the snek fanboys who think nobody gets discouraged by being constantly ignored.
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>>7293638
It's really not about that. People like to talk about the things they like. People don't like to hear people criticizing the things they like. Without social pressure, the internet is basically a breeding ground for confirmation bias. Everyone who likes Snek is a shill. Everyone who dislikes him is a jilted writefag. The constant conversation polarizes the active audience, forcing everyone to either be pro-snek, anti-snek, or try to avoid the conversation entirely. Unfortunately, Snek discussions are so common that many of the neutral people leave. The idea that one party is "guilty" for shitposting or chasing away new people is ridiculous. We all suck, and Snek brings out the worst in us. Threads built around content creation are particularly susceptible, as the audience is inherently limited. We would be much, much better off if we only discussed shit on Literotica, at least from this perspective.

>>7293651
Yours is an equally ridiculous argument. If more writers wanted to write what Snek does, they would. Not only that, but they would have been doing so for some time now. The common frustration stems from the fact that one writer and his set of fetishes has largely taken over a thread. No one is mad that he's popular. No one is jealous of his success. This is Erotic Fiction General, not femdom general. The problem we have here is almost identical to the futa flood of /d/. Obviously, futa was popular. Many people claimed that there was only a couple enormous futa fans that constantly bumped threads and posted futa shit. Equally many people claimed that futa was the will of the majority, and that everyone else could suck it. Both contributed equally to /d/ being largely unusable for anyone whose sole fetish wasn't futa for some time.
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>>7293656
>>7293657
>won't try because someone might be better
Welcome to real life. This applies literally everything you can do. The drawthreads of the various boards prove this immensely, but people who draw scribbles still draw there. They also won't know until they try. And getting mad at the guy who did try and became popular is just idiotic and pathetic.
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>>7293651


There isn't, but that's literally been the basis of all the samefag posts by AA and no matter how many times you point it out, he'll stay quiet and just respond to something else instead, thus continuing the cycle.

If no one is reading or discussing other people's stuff, that's because other people are not writing what the audience wants and so the audience doesnt feel like discussing it. That's always been the case, this thread doesnt move anywhere remotely fast enough to flood or push out other posters. Hell, just 2 days ago there was a 6 hour gap or so of no posts at all, and yet retards want to pretend snek posters are flooding people out of the thread or whatever else.
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>>7293653
Awesome, I've already asked Grim if he'd be up for some scaly art after he's done with the Osha request, though he hasn't replied yet, unless you can think of someone better suited?
If you can, I can shift Grim over to Viper art and have him do one of Vi to go with Snek 4.

>>7293656
You should write because you enjoy it and it makes you happy, not for validation from strangers.

>>7293660
It sometimes helps to read it out loud, imagine the two characters in your head and try to picture them having a conversation, then read it back to yourself and see if you can picture someone overhearing that exchange.
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>>7293668
>You should write because you enjoy it and it makes you happy, not for validation from strangers.

Yes, but not getting validation for your work is a lightning fast way of losing happiness and the desire to write. .
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>>7293673
That's why you try harder and work to improve more. Or just jump on popular trends if (you)s/validation mean that much to you.
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>>7293668
>You should write because you enjoy it and it makes you happy, not for validation from strangers.
That's pretty easy to say when you've got multiple people verbally abusing anyone who doesn't like your work, and a swarm more just begging to suck your cock.
>You should just find a job that makes you happy, not because you need the money
Is fucking obnoxious from the mouth of a lottery winner. Your reasons are not the only reasons.
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>>7293667
To quote >>7293664

>If more writers wanted to write what Snek does, they would. Not only that, but they would have been doing so for some time now. The common frustration stems from the fact that one writer and his set of fetishes has largely taken over a thread. No one is mad that he's popular. No one is jealous of his success. This is Erotic Fiction General, not femdom general. The problem we have here is almost identical to the futa flood of /d/. Obviously, futa was popular. Many people claimed that there was only a couple enormous futa fans that constantly bumped threads and posted futa shit. Equally many people claimed that futa was the will of the majority, and that everyone else could suck it. Both contributed equally to /d/ being largely unusable for anyone whose sole fetish wasn't futa for some time.

TL;DR: He can get his own thread, or everyone will suffer through this until either he leaves or the mods get sick of this shit. At the current rate, I'm betting on the latter happening first.
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>>7293660
Written word is not the same as a play or movie. What seems natural in one doesn't work in the other. Outside of film noir, how many movies have you seen that have extended periods of thinking or detailed description? Similarly, extended dialogue simply doesn't work in a story. Try and read a play manuscript and see how much you enjoy it. Dialogue is incredibly difficult to write well. It is essentially impossible to write long dialogue well, regardless of your skill. it's not an issue of how to write it, but what you should write in the first place. Conversations merely do not translate well into prose. Fill in the details wherever possible without dialogue. Acknowledge the presence of conversation, but do not feel compelled to quote every line. Your smut is going to end up reading like CSPAN. This is not a good thing. Only use direct quotations for shorter conversations, or places where it is the most effective.

There is plenty of other advice out there, but the number one rule of writing is to remember that it is not your job to perfectly recreate real-life events. I've made an enormous number of suggestions on this topic in smut. Be careful about the assumption that what works in one medium will work in any other. You're not a playwright, a director, or even a Mongolian tapestry fingerpainter. Focus on what works in your medium. Ignore everything else.
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>>7293680
>if anyone becomes too popular here they need to be kicked out or some of us will continue to throw a tantrum
gee, that's sure an encouraging though for new people and this general
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>>7293668

I'm checking other artists as we speak, I'll see if I can dig a few up. Grim is awesome, but the long wait times and lack of responses mean we shouldnt rely on him for everything.

>>7293680

Snek isn't leaving, Mods don't care, people are going to post about his shit because they like it. That's how it was, how it is, and how it will be.
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>>7293653
He didn't answer your question.......ask him again.
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>>7293688
Read that again. Specifically:
>The common frustration stems from the fact that one writer and his set of fetishes has largely taken over a thread.

>>7293689
In that case, both he and you had better get used to the people criticizing him all the time, because that won't be going away either.

Or he could swallow his pride, remember that he too used to be a rookie in need of assurance, and put his popularity to good use by aggressively promoting new and existing writers alike.
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>>7293705
You mean like how he reads and gives critic to new stories posted fairly often?
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>>7293679
Pinwheel was only the third story I posted, the first two were well received but garnered little discussion or attention.

If you love writing, you'll keep at it, and you'll improve regardless of what people say.
Is having lots of people enjoy your work motivating? Absolutely, but I didn't start off with a readership and I would keep writing even if they grew bored of me.

I have hundreds of thousands of words of absolute trash that will never see the light of day, I didn't wake up one morning knowing exactly what to do, I worked at it.
Pic related, a screengrab from a 250,000 word comic book script I wrote years ago, which is terrible.

Even then my first attempts were poor, when I read through the first Snek story, so many problems and flaws jump out at me that I've since learned how to recognize. I'm sure in another few months the stuff I'm working on now will seem just as badly written to me.

The point is writing isn't a talent, it's a skill that you have to work at in order to improve, no different than drawing. Posting a story, being discouraged and then stopping won't get you anywhere. Years ago I laminated a summary of my script and took it to the biggest comic book convention in Europe, and I was laughed out of there. If I had stopped writing then, I wouldn't be talking to you now.

Don't be discouraged! Write for yourself, and people whose tastes align with your own will find you.
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>>7293711

Psst, Snek

>>7293704
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>>7293714
>>7293704
Oh, I'm sorry, it's late here I'm zoning out, should probably retire soon.

It would have to be a pretty hard kick, but a broken bone is something that wouldn't heal without being set, and the quick healing could even cause problems where the flesh around the break would heal all fucked up.
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>>7293705
>Or he could swallow his pride, remember that he too used to be a rookie in need of assurance, and put his popularity to good use by aggressively promoting new and existing writers alike.

This is a horrible idea. 4chan, by and large, despises pretty much anything with a name. Ask AA about the "benefits" of being a namefag. If you look at the most respected posters around here, it is the people who always and only use their names when posting their own work. Asking him (or anyone else) to encourage new writers ends up being patronizing garbage like >>7293711.

Writefags don't need a peptalk. They don't want namefags that deign to acknowledge their presence. They simply want to feel as if they have an audience. Part of that is responding to them with productive criticism. A bigger part of that is knowing that their particular brand of smut is welcome. Nobody goes to a trap thread to post vore. As it stands right now, the overwhelming majority of the discussion is with respect to a femdom setting. This is almost entirely because there are a lot of femdom fans here. I do not know if Snek brought them here, or if they were always here and were simply waiting for someone to write their fetish. The issue is that /gfd/ already has its own thread, and we are approaching an overlap of purview. That being said, I'm not entirely sure what to do about that. 4chan seems to be predisposed to femdom, and Snek writes at the speed of neet. This is basically guaranteed to turn any thread he is in into snek guy general.

If you need proof, see the /dgg/ of a few months ago and how they turned into free cities dev general. As much as I liked FCDev and his game, there really wasn't much discussion outside of FC and begging for the most recent version of TiTS or trapquest.
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>>7293726
Femdom was really popular back when we were on /tg/ too. This is nothing new.
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>>7293726
Well you ask me to give advice to people who feel discouraged and then tell me it's "patronizing garbage", lol.
You won't get good at anything if you don't work at it, and you won't thrive if you let criticism or lack of interest discourage you. That's true of many pursuits.
I shared a story about a low point in my writing career, I don't see that as being patronizing. People seem to think I emerged fully formed from a pupa but that isn't the case at all, I've produced mountains of shit writing that I haven't shown anyone here.

>>7293705
>aggressively promoting new and existing writers

What?
Promote to who? Where? I only hang out here. You guys know everyone I know.
I'm not George R. R. Martin, are you expecting me to call up my industry contacts or something?
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>>7293735
It was, but I don't remember it being quite this prevalent. I may be mistaken, though. It could also be that I better remember things that caused shitstorms, and I don't remember femdom causing that many issues. As I remember it, most of the fights were over DLFG and Emps, at least after Stray (still don't like the ending).
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>>7293758
>Well you ask me to give advice to people who feel discouraged and then tell me it's "patronizing garbage", lol.
Different people, dog.

>I've produced mountains of shit writing that I haven't shown anyone here.
I mean, most of the ones you have shown here aren't exactly stellar either....
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>>7293763
We also had much more writers/artists to balance it out and the fact we were weekend only kept arguments from lasting too long.
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>>7293716


I figured, rapid healing can backfire pretty badly if the bone and muscles are no longer where they should be.

Also, found a few possible artists, tell me what you think of these, and if you don't like them, point me in the right direction of what you'd rather see. Currently looking for people who can draw huge asses without geting too far into hyper territory every time:

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/22798510/

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/22817497/

Or this guy too http://www.furaffinity.net/user/orange-peel/

Who drew this pic that I can't find on his gallery:

https://static1.e621.net/data/db/94/db943a267c16512d3e8cd2bafe780f3a.jpg
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>>7293771
Might want to add that the orange-peel guy is more known for animations if you want to go all out more.
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>>7293775

Saw that on his commissions list, and fair point. Might be really nice for Snek's VN too
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>>7293758
There is more than three people in this thread, Snek. My post makes it clear that I was specifically saying that there is no need for you to "inspire" people. As such, my criticism of your attempt is at least legitimate, even if not necessarily correct. Again, nobody wants you, or anyone else, to give them a "you can do it" talk.

Honestly, if you take nothing else from this entire damn thread, please keep this in mind: you talk too much. There is no well-liked namefag that wears his handle all the time. The best you can hope for is 50/50. Using a name for non-creation purposes only gives people a name to attach things they don't like to. There is no "winning" from your position. This thread will continue to degenerate into your friends and your enemies until nothing is left, you stop posting, or some new thing catches the popular ire. I watch generals self-destruct as a hobby. You are doing no one, including yourself, a favor. This fight has been going on long enough that it is immediately clear that there is no painless resolution. If you want to have a place to continue to post your stories, I can only suggest that you consider your role at the center of this. I'm not threatening you, nor am I arguing with you. I don't care to. It's late and I actually have a job. I just really don't want to lose this thread to something as stupid as femdom catgirls. No matter how many fans you have, you are not worth it. Ignoring the problem will not make it go away. Being "right" will not make it go away. This should be obvious to you, as well as to everyone else here.
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>>7293768
Wow sick burn bro.
You really got me there.

>>7293775
>>7293776
That would be awesome but
>$395
I'm not quite at that level yet lol. Animations would be awesome but I doubt that will ever be within budget.

I'll take a closer look at these guys tomorrow and sort through them, thanks.
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>>7293786
Better concentrate on your job then, mate.

The dude's just said he's trying to help other writers, a thing everyone apparently wants, but that's not good enough for you!

The newest Snek nitpick is now that he wears his name to answer questions. Please keep this in mind for the next thread.
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>>7293793
It's not a 'sick burn'. You barely improve. You do nothing but write smut all day every day, yet you struggle to incorporate the most basic critiques into your work - of which you've received and still receive mountains of. You write hundreds of thousands of words but never do you take a moment of your limitless time to actually improve the shit you're pumping out. Your characters are characterless, your basic storylines are the same thing over and over and over, repeating even inside the same story. You don't even bother to even partially edit your own work.
That insults me as a writer. You said yourself, not everyone starts perfect, but you seem to be actively stagnating, and take pride in the barest advances you make. And yet for all of this, people still lap it up. They just take they moneyshot right to the face, beg for more, ignore every trite mistake you make and spew out into the thread proclaiming it to be a masterpiece. If that were me in that position, I'd be fucking ashamed.
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>>7293820
>people like your stuff more than mine!

You guys, please. This doesn't look good on you. And I don't think Snek has ever tooted his own horn. You're projecting a lot of things onto Snek that have never happened.
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>>7293786
Well at first I only posted with my name when I posted updates or responded to people directly, but then my detractors starting accusing me of failing to leave feedback and participate in the community, so I started keeping it on all the time, now you're doing the opposite! Doesn't look like I can win, so the best course of action I think is to ignore you and do whatever I want.

>I'm not threatening you

Sounds like you're threatening to do your utmost to destroy the thread if I don't comply with your wishes and, I dunno what it is you really want me to do, leave? Stop posting?

The problem is you can't do anything about it, you can shitpost as much as you like, you won't do me any harm because I'm self-sufficient, my readers mostly exist outside of this general to the tune of 250,000 and counting. If this thread dies I will persist, all you'll do is ruin it for yourself and the people who actually need this thread to get their work out there and improve, which would be an incredibly shitty thing to do just to spite me.

You'll really make the argument that people need encouragement and feedback, and then threaten to destroy that for them just to get at me, you'll throw everyone else under the bus? Suddenly your concern for them sounds a lot less genuine! Maybe you should follow my example and, I dunno, actually leave feedback and advice rather than trying to ransom the general, you keyboard warrior.

I'm not going to let someone bully me off a website, what is this Tumblr? You think I'm going to abandon all the people here who enjoy my content, participate in the writing process and help me improve because you personally dislike me? My only crime is having people enjoy my content, and I will continue to provide it until I get carpal tunnel and my hands stop working.

I'm gonna be here until the heat death of the universe and there's literally nothing you can do about it.

Stay mad.

>>7293820
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjy_7haflaM
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>>7293834
Might be a bad time to ask, but have had a chance to read the end of chapter 3, snek? You always have some good feedback for my story
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>>7293835
Sure, lord knows I can't claim that I don't have time right now.

Couple of suggestions, I wouldn't say "beating of his chest", I'd suggest changing that perhaps to heart. Alternatively you could say "a pounding in his chest" or something along those lines to clarify that you're talking about the heart within rather than the chest itself.

"She cutely yawned" is a little oddly worded, perhaps switch that around a little, same goes for "hearteningly kissing his brow".

Actually I'm noticing a bit of a pattern there, for example:
>"she fondly stared into his adorable features and tenderly whispered"
I feel like those should be switched around;
>"she stared fondly into his adorable features and whispered tenderly".
Maybe I'm off-base but to me that reads better, perhaps look out for phrases like that in editing and see if you find it improves the flow.
You're not doing it consistently, it's fine for the most part, just here and there.

That's really the only complaint I have at this point, just the occasional odd phrase that pops up every so often. The formatting remains exemplary, and it's packed with your signature "shouldn't work yet somehow does" sap. My prior praise of the believability of the character interaction stands too.
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/efg/, the only thread where your fetish must have three or more paragraphs of lore in order to make any sort of sense.

Never change, you glorious bastards. Never change.
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>>7293859
Thanks, fixed those a bit. I hope people liked the resolve of the coma, even if it was a little obvious
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>>7293874
Yeah, I don't think anyone here expected things to end badly, but it felt appropriate.
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If a story isn't finished but you'd want some feedback of it, what's the recommended word count you need to hit before you post it for comments?
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>>7293786
>>7293834

Get back on fucking topic or I'm going to start reporting all this drama bullshit.

Keep all this 'oh my le valid criticism' to yourself. If you don't like this thread, find another one.

This is erotic fiction general, not the written version of that art criticism board.
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>>7293893
I find about 2000 words gives people something substantial to read. That's the minimum I'd post.
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>>7293899
By all means do so, they always start this shit when we hit bump limit because they're scared of the mods.
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>>7293893
There is no recommended wordcount. Just make sure what you already have is reasonably coherent and not just a random mash-up of sentences and short paragraphs.
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Tags: foot fetish, asshole fetish, feet + ass smelling, hs dxd

Here is the first chapter in a Highschool DxD fic I have been working on for a little while.

If anyone is into those things, feedback would be appreciated!

http://pastebin.com/xbPckN59
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>>7293834
>my readers mostly exist outside of this general to the tune of 250,000 and counting.

I can pull numbers out of my ass too!

but seriously, what they want you to do is have a little more humility instead of acting as if you're so much better than everyone else. you used to be a great guy, but fame went to your head. If you stopped being so arrogant and started seeing things from your detractors' points of view, maybe then you might know why they're so mad at you.
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>>7293758
>What?
Promote to who? Where? I only hang out here. You guys know everyone I know.
I'm not George R. R. Martin, are you expecting me to call up my industry contacts or something?

To here. Give recommendations, tell people to read X, Y, and Z. Feedback isn't enough, you gotta advertise it for them.
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>>7293658
I try to avoid using adjectives effusively, possibly to my detriment, but also to resist being one of those young writers who uses adjectives like French chefs use butter. But maybe that's a silly fear.

Thank you very much for reading.
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>>7294401
Smut and erotica is one of the few places where going a bit purple is warranted. With moderation, of course, but a dry clinical description of sexual activity isn't really titillating. (It can be used humoristically, but that's another matter altogether.)
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>>7293834
>250k readers

The fuck are you on about?

You have 103 posters in this thread, I've never read your shit, and from the way you're peacocking, it's almost like you don't give a shit about what you write. Your defense force likes you, cool. Maybe 10-15 people will have an autistic fit of rage if I say that you're a prick.

And from the way you have people acting, it's obvious that you're lowest common denominator tripe. Enjoy writing the same shit over and over. Only so many ways someone can nut before they have read it before.

Now I have to get back to commissions, my art addiction of my game characters doesnt fuel itself.
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>>7293711
You have several comma splices and reuse common words. That ain't no script, it's shit.
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>>7294390
lol fuck off, he's never done anything besides post his stories and leave feedback, apparently that's enough to rustle the jimmies of some extremely insecure people here.
This is probably only the second time I've seen him respond to trolls in about 20 threads.

Really it's absolutely pathetic that you guys aren't even trying to out-write him, instead you throw bitch fits and try to get him to leave because he's "too popular". Oh it's not my fault my writing is garbage because I write 200 words a week and never seek to improve, it's Snek's fault for being too successful! He has to leave so it stops making me feel bad in comparison!

So anyone who actually improves their writing to the point that they outpace the dregs in this general who spend their time bitching rather than trying to improve has to leave, or it makes said dregs so bitter that they make it their mission to derail all the threads?

>>7294448
>posts a screenshot as an example from before he learned how to write properly
>it's shit!

Great job champ, you win the prize!
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>>7294520
Show of hands, how many writefags here are also NEETs?
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>>7294520
Are you Snek? Contribute or pipe the fuck down, sycophant.
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>>7294524
It's not just Snek, Cynical always drops large updates, D. writes the most of anyone here besides Snek, and what do you know, not a peep out of them. Infact every named writer I've seen who posts is polite and contributes as often as they can.

But there seems to be a small minority of people who feel that praise should be heaped on them no matter if they actually contribute or not, regardless of the quality or content of their writing.

That isn't how it works, nor how it will ever work.
If you never post anything nobody is going to be able to read it, if you try to coast on something you wrote ages ago while never improving or producing anything new, discussion will dry up. If you write something niche that doesn't have a wide appeal, it won't generate as much feedback as something more mainstream like femdom or futa.

It's not rocket science, but again the people in question don't think they need to improve or adapt, they're already Shakespeare and if people aren't showering them with attention then it must be someone else's fault.

If Snek wasn't here you'd be piling on whoever else happened to generate the most discussion. I wouldn't be surprised if your fragile egos are the reason your general got banned from /tg/, you probably did exactly the same thing there as you're doing here.
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>>7294539
Futa is considered mainstream now?
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>>7294542
Have you ever browsed /d/ outside of this general? Half of the threads are futa.
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>>7294539
On /tg/ nobody ever monopolized discussion like he does here. How about you quit making assumptions about what caused the move and ask the people who were there for once?
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>>7294539
Look, I'm entirely uninterested in reading what looks to be some namedropping fest, probably sprinkled with accusations of 'if this is how you were, it's no won' blah blah blah.

I'm not mentioning D. or whoever the fuck else because people don't collectively line up for a chance to lick their shitter - they post, they critique, they leave. Good shit.

Snek thrives on the shit. You saw it yourself - you're nothing but a viewcount.
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>>7294551
Because /d/ is probably the friendliest board and crossposters always ruin it. Who have we had problems with lately? /r9k/ posters in /gfd/ causing drama, /tg/ posters in /efg/ causing drama, people who got kicked off their home boards for being toxic and don't really want to be here at all, but for some reason /d/ is always their go-to spot to start up again.

We're becoming the /b/ of porn and I don't like it.

>>7294552
On the contrary he doesn't need to come here, but he does, and he puts up with all of your bullshit and shitposting when he doesn't have to, all to interact with and do requests for the maybe 20 people who like his writing here. I've never once seen him post on /lit/ or in the /trash/ writethread, he only comes here as far as I know.

You give him a suggestion and often the next day you can read it in an update, half of his stories are just collections of requests from /d/, so no I don't feel like a viewcount.
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>>7294566
Don't mistake a total absence of discussion as friendliness.

>>7294566
As opposed to his quarter million other fans who apparently have never come here ever?
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>>7294566
Too goddamn bad. You're just a number; and his writing is all the same shit anyway.
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>>7294545
I thought that they were social rejects and we were just regular rejects.
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>>7294570
Been here longer than you have buster, /d/ is my home board. The community here is great, you guys are the outsiders bringing drama and shitposting with you, if I could reinstate your general on /tg/ I'd do it in an instant so that I'd never have to see you again.

>>7294577
Oh, well now that you've brought that fact to my attention, I guess I'll stop reading his stuff.
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>>7294570
You realize there are other websites on the internet right?
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>>7294588
If endless imagedumps almost exclusively about futas are what you call a great community, I'd hate to see what you call a bad one.

>>7294590
You realize he's got to be mad to think he has a quarter million readers in total, right? I doubt he even has 250 in all. If that's not true, I'd sure love to see proof of that.
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>>7294592
See, you don't even want to be on /d/, so leave. We didn't ask you to come here, and you clearly hate the community, so why not go somewhere else that better suits you?

>I'd sure love to see proof of that

Some of his stuff that's up on Literotica has like 20,000 views, and he posts his stuff everywhere. I wouldn't be surprised at all by that number.
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>>7294595
>so leave

If it was that easy, it would've already happened, asshole. Not to mention that you're assuming Snek and his suckups are representative of the whole community now.

>Some of his stuff that's up on Literotica has like 20,000 views, and he posts his stuff everywhere. I wouldn't be surprised at all by that number.

I'd be even less surprised if those numbers weren't inflated by repeat views and bots.
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>>7294603
Go join the writethread on /trash/, there are no rules there, you can post whatever you want and you'll be out of our hair. You won't have to share a thread with Snek ever again because to my knowledge he doesn't go there.

You're calling me an asshole but you come to my board and shit the place up, while admitting to hate us and not wanting to be here.

You don't want to be here, I don't want you to be here, so go to any number of other write generals and stop spoiling this one with your drama.

Here you go, a utopia of writefagging with no Snek to compete for attention with:
>>>/trash/7915338
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>>7294611
>/trash/
>a utopia of any kind at all

It's a slower /b/ with explicit furfaggotry and "bump" every four posts. They don't even use pastebin, for fuck's sake.
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>>7294620
You're the one with a problem, I'm offering you solutions. If you can't get along with the people who post here and by your own admission you hate /d/ and don't want to be here, then you need to go somewhere else.
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>>7294623
That's exactly what the trolls who kicked them off /tg/ said. Perhaps you should give them wheels so they can move whenever you command them to.

And way to overlook the fact that there's only one group of people that they have a beef with. If they hated the community so much, why don't they go after any of the other /d/ native writers?
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>>7294627
I'm sure if anyone else garnered as much discussion and popularity as Snek they would.
Just because they're currently targeting one person doesn't mean they won't shift to other people in the future, at this point anyone who they perceive to be getting undeserved attention is a target.

There's really nothing to discuss, I might give them the benefit of the doubt had they not been banned from one board already. That pretty much dissolves any claim to innocence the /tg/ crowd has.

I doubt "trolls" kicked them /tg/ based on the behavior they're exhibiting here, I see no reason to believe "trolls" aren't just their own toxic, adversarial community devouring itself.

Really we should just be reporting the drama, the sooner the mods get involved at this point the better.
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>>7294631
>I'm sure if anyone else garnered as much discussion and popularity as Snek they would
People have addressed this before, none of the other writers have the huge amounts of free time that Snek does. He's been able to make this into a living, we can't.

So, we can't out-produce him. And considering this sort of thing has never happened with any other writer before, I'm not so sure about it happening to the next person who reaches any kind of popularity either.
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>>7294631
Tell me this OP pic isn't obviously trolling. Go ahead, say it was the community's fault.

Or the dozens of threads made within a half hour of one another. Or the multiple ghost threads on foolz where they bragged about "taking them down".
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>>7294638
Nothing to do with me, all I care about is that you clearly brought your drama with you. I
DO
NOT
CARE
about /tg/, I don't care what happened on /tg/, I don't who posted there, what they said, who made generals, who shitposted and who trolled, who hates who.
This is /d/, say it with me:
"I am on /d/, I am not on /tg/", repeat that several times an hour until it sinks in.

>>7294637
$100 a month on Patreon is not a living.
It doesn't matter how much time he has, that's not why people discuss his work, he hasn't even been writing any Pinwheel stuff for over a month, he's been doing Snek 4.
Yet people are still discussing Pinwheel in the thread, if you can't figure out why that is then you're not cut out to be a writer.
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>>7294645
Does Snek advertise his patreon, or do you just get a request every time you do?
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>>7294645
There was no drama at first. Look up the older threads if you refuse to believe me. It was only after /efg/ became all snek all the time that people started to complain.

And you SHOULD care about what happened there. If it didn't, YOU WOULDN'T BE HERE BITCHING ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW.
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>>7294652
It was only after someone became more popular than you that you started shitposting endlessly, got it.

I care about /tg/ in the capacity that you guys are here now, shitting up the place, I don't care about whatever drama went on there that you can't let go of.

Just report the posts you feel are harming the community and let the mods sort it out rather than taking it upon yourself to try to drive people away with shitposting (which obviously isn't working), unless you're afraid of scrutiny, which seems to be the case because you guys always start shit when we hit bump limit.
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>>7294661
Or because we care enough about the community to not shit it up before it's already autosaged.

And the drama didn't start there at all, get that through your thick fucking skull. It started here, with one person who thinks nothing of monopolizing every thread, and his band of parasites who worship the ground he steps on. If you want to know where it really started, look in a mirror.
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>>7294669
Actually it's the people with fragile egos who can't seem to have their own discussions on a board that moves at the pace of a snail, and require that anyone who receives more praise than they do be driven from the general.

>stop liking things I don't like!
>stop being more popular than me!
>I should be able to dictate how attention is metered out and who gets to talk about which stories!
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>>7294672

Not him but that's not what he's after, you're making a strawman.

He's simply saying that Snek dominates every thread, partly from him posting an update every 2k words.

I like snek, I like snek's stories, but let's not delude ourselves into thinking he's great. He's solid but if it wasn't for the sex there's no way in hell I'd read his stories.

We're all here trying to improve, so let's give attention to everyone and not just Snek even if he is prolific.
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Whole lot of pic related going on.
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>>7294678
fucking hell this, if everyone got half as much discussion as his fics, nobody would say a bad thing about him ever. if you can't even bother to give them the slightest acknowledgement they exist and then blame them for it, of course they'd be so butthurt
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>>7294678
This, honestly.

It's practically impossible for any other discussion to keep its momentum when Snek and his fanclub are around.

Slow things down a bit, break things up a tad, let some other people into the limelight, and there wouldn't be a problem.
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No offense to Snek, but he's a tough act to follow. It's easy to get drowned out.

My rule of thumb is "don't post stories after Snek does, or when Snek-drama's going on". It would be like releasing your Hobby-Grade Co-op Epic Heroes FPS on the same day as the Overwatch beta.
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>>7294678
>>7294689
>>7294692
I've not really heard much praise for Snek, not in the terms you're describing at least. People read his stuff and they like to talk about it, but I don't recall one instance of someone claiming it was especially well written, never seen anyone say "Snek is the best writer" or anything like that.

The problem arises when you try to dictate to people what they should be reading, and what they should be discussing. Even if it seems perfectly reasonable to you, nobody is going to take kindly to that, it just creates the kind of schism we're seeing here where people are forced to be either pro or anti-Snek because the discussion is so polarizing.

The best thing for everyone is to simply discuss the things you want to discuss and let other people discuss the things they want to discuss. The idea that someone can be drowned out or pushed off the board by other people have unrelated discussions is just not true, these threads are up for a week at a time. "It's impossible for me to have a discussion" is patently false, nobody is preventing you from talking about the subjects you want to talk about besides your own unwillingness to do so.
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>>7294692

You are literally a fucking idiot if you honestly believe the extremely slow pace of this thread is impeded in any way by snek and his single update per day. There is no flooding or crowding out of other authors going on here, stop lying to yourself.
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>>7294698
You're right.

But getting people to all agree on this, one way or another, is never going to happen. And trying to tell them to agree with each other and leave it alone is just going to make things worse.
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>it's another AA samefags anonymously episode
We get it, it's a shit test and you want him to smash your boipucci. Alright already. Don't drag the rest of us into your magical realm.
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>>7294698
What about the possibility that nobody else will bother continuing it? I don't want to samefag just to keep a discussion from being lost.
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>>7294703
And you're literally a tripfag. Go back to /vp/.
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>>7294714
It's not AA. Guess again. Here's a small hint: it's my fetish
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>>7294726
D.?
I hope not, because that guy seems too chill to participate in these kinds of arguments and I would be disappointed if that were the case.
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>>7294726
>>7294751

It's been AA, D isn't the kind of person to vomit out this garbage
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>>7294751
>>7294753
Figure it out, boyos. Have another fetish to help you out.
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>>7294757
I don't really care who you are, and I'm amused that you expect us to guess based on these pictures, try not to inadvertently drag innocent people's names through the mud in the process.
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>>7294760
So rude, I'm posting /d/ related images, Salty Umbreon is blaming AA and you're questioning who I am.

Have another hint.
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>>7294782
Nextt time, try not falling for the drama in the first fucking place. You're the one enabling it.
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>>7294782
That is the best course of action I think. Just report drama, let the mods sort it out.
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>>7294782
Filing false reports will bite you in the ass.
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>>7294782
If you really want to kill the thread, it'll only take two or three new threads to shove this off the edge of the board.

>>7294788
The problem is, I'm pretty sure the mods don't care about /d/ at all. They just show up when there's too much drama and nuke the place. If we draw the ire of the mods they're liable to ban all discussion on /d/ yet again.
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>>7294793
This place needs a rest, really. Changing it from being weekends-only was a big mistake.
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>>7294799
How long for? People are liable to forget about it pretty quickly anyway once it's stopped, might not remember to start it again.
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>>7294804
I sincerely doubt that.
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>>7294807
Well, if you're sure, then do it. Decide when to restart it and then stop making new threads, if you can get people to do that.
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>>7294810
Sounds like a roundabout way to circumvent Snek's daily updates to me.
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>>7294818
Or a way to circumvent the shitstorms, you mean.
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>>7294818
Okay?

I don't see why that's a problem, he's got plenty of other places where he posts his stuff, so his business won't be hurt, if that's what you mean.
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>>7294810
>>7294799
You guys realize this thread generally lasts about a week right? There isn't a new thread every day.
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>>7294823
>You guys realize this thread generally lasts about a week right

Which means if we only post 2 days every week, nothing will be lost.
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>>7294823
>>7294826
Seriously the thread is already weekly.
How are you going to stop other people from posting daily?
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>>7294828
it's a 24/7 general, weekly is "once a week".
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Thread images: 85


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