Slaves

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>>7213202

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Ever since I played Teaching Feeling, I've always liked the idea of being a kind slave owner, I assume it also stems from me being such a beta that I couldn't stomach mistreating someone in an already shitty situation for no reason.

My ideal slave world would be modern day, where the poor/homeless are tidied up and sold as domestic/sex slaves. Treatment varies from owner to owner, but of course there are laws against killing slaves
(Bonus points if futanaris exist)

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>>7213202
So here's one of mine.

A hundred years ago, a zombie apocalypse took out most of human civilization. The planet went from having 7 billion people on it to not even 7 million. For the most part, the plague has run its course; after hitting "critical mass" the zombies mostly consumed each other. However, they still exist and are a constant threat to what's left of human society; being caught out in the open means death and the plague is sometimes "carried" by animals and the like.

Most human technology has been destroyed, and much of the planet is unsafe due to extensive (and ineffective) use of nuclear weapons against the zombie menace. Most cities have been destroyed completely, with little of the old infrastructure remaining.

Indirect exposure to the plague has changed the nature of humanity permanently, resulting in a lower male birthrate. Women bear many more female than male children, and the population is about 1:2 male:female.

Simply put, the mass breakdown of human civilization left human society in anarchy. Pretty soon, it becomes apparent that women, without the physical strength to fight with men or survive in the wilderness, would have to compromise their independence and rely on men in order to make it in this harsh world.

This is not, however, to say that all women are slaves or depend on mens' protection. It is simply the case that this is the general trend.

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>>7213411
Most women found themselves depending on men for protection against other men and the wilderness. This meant, of course, that they were leveraged, finding themselves utterly relying on men. Men found themselves in a position to take advantage of women, and without anything to keep them in check, they took advantage of it.

There is no "official" codified slave system, but the idea of men owning women is almost universal. You could go to almost any settlement and women would be treated as the chattel of men. It's almost universally recognized that women are property - and few women try to escape their bondage, for what waits with freedom is typically to be acquired by another man, usually death in the wilderness, and sometimes a brutal rape and being discarded. Slavery is one of a woman's few means of safety, and like it or not, a woman must live with the reality that she cannot be both free and safe.

Of course, there is the rare amazonian settlement of freewomen. These settlements provide a sort of "haven" for women, but are usually militaristic by nature, as such settlements receive little trade or aid from other male-run settlements. Usually, these become Darwinian meritocracies in which the lower classes may even be worse off than as slaves to men.

Many a woman has escaped her male master and fled to such a female settlement only to find her lot in life has worsened.

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Also, men may end up being slaves in some cases, usually in order to pay off a debt. Male slaves are typically indentured for a term rather than slaves for life, and used for manual labor.

Very few men own multiple slaves. Most "slavery" is just incredibly one-sided marriage, in which the woman is property and must be absolutely obedient to her husband.

In every settlement, however, there are at least a few harems, usually belonging to the relatively wealthy.

Incidentally, there is a double-standard in terms of faithfulness. Think ASOIAF - men can sleep around openly and women have no right to complain, but women must be totally faithful. It's exceedingly common for a man to go out drinking, fuck one of the pub's girls, then come home without shame. An adultress, on the other hand, would face severe punishment. That said, it's not unheard of for a man to share his women for a gangbang.

It's very rare, but freewomen do exist in the male settlements. They generally clawed their way to freedom and wealth through intense determination and no lack of cunning and ruthlessness, and such women are not to be trifled with. They are respected by men, but not usually liked.

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>>7213412
>>7213413
Such women often own female slaves themselves, which they may use for whatever purpose they wish. This doesn't mean an understanding and lenient master, however - it means a harsh, cold mistress who is often far more severe than any man could be. The kind of woman who claws her way to the top is not the kind to be philanthropic to her fellow woman, and more commonly she holds other women in contempt for their docility.

I should emphasize, of course, that such freewomen are rare, and one might be found in maybe 1 in every 3 settlements.

The vast majority of women recognize that it is only their subjugation that keeps them safe. The chains that bind them are the chains that protect them.

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>>7213414
Some background information about this world:

- Bondage is frequently used on the female slaves. This is done more aesthetic reasons rather than because it's necessary to restrain the slave (because it rarely is). Armbinders are particularly popular.
- Women are seen primarily as companions, as they are not particularly useful for labor compared to indentured men. A sort of natural selection thus takes place, as the primary asset of a woman is her beauty and ugly women are quickly abandoned as they are simply mouths to feed.
- Most male slaveowners are not cruel. They may be sensitive, kind, and compassionate. However, they never see women as their equals, but rather as pets.
- The primary form of contraception are handmade condoms. This can be a hassle, and as a result, anal sex is extremely common as a form of contraception. It is also seen as being more pleasurable for the man, and giving a slave vaginal sex is seen as a reward.
- The amazonian settlements are noticeably harsh and operate on a class-based system that sorts women by their merit. Most escaped slaves don't have much merit and end up on the bottom rung of society. These settlements are rarely compassionate, as female settlements have harsher decisions ahead of them since they are inherently disadvantaged.

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>>7213423
How long has it been since civilization fell apart? Do the slave girls remember what it was like to be free, or is the old world just a passed down story to them?

Do the amazons ever kick out women who fail to contribute enough? Maybe even sell them back to the nearest male run settlement? Or is that a line they won't cross?

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>>7213499
>How long has it been since civilization fell apart?
Approximately 65 years.

>Do the slave girls remember what it was like to be free, or is the old world just a passed down story to them?
The human average lifespan has decreased due to harsh conditions. The generation that remembered the old world is mostly dead.

Female freedom is fading from the collective memory. The current generation of young women is so far separated from that world that they don't even think about the fact that they could once have lived as equals to men.

These girls try to avoid thinking about the old world. In this world, the most prosperous settlements are those in which women are not free. Their mothers sold their freedom years ago for the sake of safety, and they learn to find comfort in submission.

>Do the amazons ever kick out women who fail to contribute enough? Maybe even sell them back to the nearest male run settlement? Or is that a line they won't cross?

The amazonian settlements are incredibly harsh. In order to sustain themselves they will kick out mouths they can't feed. These settlements do not value women for their femaleness alone, but rather for their strength. In a sense, maleness is more desirable to them.

They do not deal with male settlements, who they see as oppressors (and who in return see them as perverters of their order). They almost never conduct peaceful diplomacy.

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Which do you prefer /d/? Stories about free people made into slaves, or about slaves who have never known anything else?

>>7214029

Depends.

The prior offers more in the humiliation/degradation-kink department, while the latter has a lot of room for interesting behavioral quirks.

>>7214029
I like most the first option, desperation and fear makes it more interesting in my opinion.

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>>7215207
Slaves should walk on their own two legs, not burden their masters.

>victimizing females

BORING!

BY MY BUMP, BREATHE NEW LIFE

>>7213423

Interesting concept, I'd love to see more made from this.

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>>7213202
My main slave world fantasy is a futuristic/sci-fi (but limited to Earth. No space operas here) world where basically anybody can be enslaved because of debts, breach of contract, punishment for crime (I'm especially fond of a more dystopian idea where a corrupt government can and does use this as an excuse to enslave whoever they please), etc.

Once enslaved, a person is stripped of any rights, including (especially) the right to their own identity. At that point, through advanced surgery, robotics, or whatever I'm feeling like that day (Dumping the slave's mind in a robotic body with easily manipulable cybernetic brains tends to make the most sense with the rest of the fantasy), the slave's body is converted to a completely standardized (And usually hypersexualized feminine, because I'm that sort of pervert. Pic related, as subpar quality as it is, is a decent example of what I'm envisioning) template body, completely indistinguishable from other slaves. They're also implanted/programmed with a baseline set of skills and abilities, to give them some inherent value, alongside backdoors into their mind to basically give their owner total control as if the slave was a computer, if the owner so wants. Completely overwriting the new slave's personality is also sometimes a thing, because the core idea I like is the slave being completely stripped of their individuality, and being replaceable with any other slave on a dime. Keeping your own personality isn't exactly conducive to that, unless you want to be replaced with something more obedient and easier to use. Needless to say that once enslaved, there's no way out, and tracking a specific individual that was enslaved is basically impossible unless you're at the very top levels of the agency responsible for handling slaves. Who you were beforehand immediately ceases to matter once you're enslaved.
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>>7216479
Slaveowners, meanwhile, can be anybody who hasn't been enslaved and has enough money to buy (Or has been gifted) a slave. Most treat their slaves decently, owing to the fact that they're not cheap, but some excessively rich folks enjoy mistreating and breaking (In many senses of the word) their slaves, not caring about the cost of the replacement. Slaves are often used for sex and pleasure, though they're also used for almost anything that you would call "work". In particular, government-owned slaves tend to be used for legitimate labor instead of sexual/pleasure purposes (Though state-owned Prostitute Slaves exist, which does a quick job of putting most legitimate whores out of business), and these slaves tend to have their personalities completely suppressed until/unless they're sold off to a private owner. They're more like drones than slaves, because ain't nobody got time for dealing with problems that arise from the slaves actually thinking. The big commonality between how all of the various owners view/treat their slaves is that they're universally treated as things, instead of people (or even things that used to be people) because of the impossibility of finding out who a slave used to be when they were free and how uniform and replacable slaves are. They do generally possess the capacity to learn, which some more enterprising owners can use to increase the value of their slaves.
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>>7216480
In this sort of setting, I imagine myself as a slave owned by an owner alongside 3-5 other slaves, and uses his slaves to satisfy any sort of off-the-wall whims he has. The main thing about him as an owner though, is that he would constantly remind his slaves that they could very easily be replaced for literally any reason he chose, if he was even slightly dissatisfied. To suit this, he'd manipulate his slave's minds in two ways. First, a deep-seated, impossible to overcome fear of being thrown out. Second, he'd mess with the slaves' memories so that when they woke up in the morning, they remember absolutely nothing about their fellow slaves. Simply that they exist. This plays into the fear of being thrown out, because it creates the idea that the entire stable of slaves (Except you) was thrown out and replaced with an entirely new set overnight, and you have absolutely no way to prove or disprove it. These two factors would play into each other to drive me to serve and perform as hard as I possibly can, to avoid that fate that I'm made to be so scared of. Oftentimes, the fantasy ends in me being given to another owner who primarily just turns my personality off and uses me as a sex toy, because in the end the sexual element is still what makes it over the top erotic for me.

I dunno, it's probably pretty damn off the wall, especially for this sort of thread. But I really like slavery, and I really like themes of identity loss and dehumanization, so why wouldn't I combine them when it makes so much sense (to me)? It looks a fair bit sillier written out than it did in my head though.

>>7213202

I like this world/timeline where women all organized in massive union groups most are called temples and churches and they work with the government. Instead of marriage, men buy or rent women from these groups. The groups dictate to the men how women are treated will remove females if abused or mistreated.

Because of the deals the groups make with men wanting women. The women own by men who follow the rules are well treated like pets and do some types of work if they want, house work and cooking is common. As a sign of her being a pet, the women is stripped naked and is given a collar to wear. This is also partly done to lower the cost to her own and or arouse him as well. The groups also sell special cheep food at the market an owner can feed to his pet. This food is often soft sweet kibble with a chocolaty taste but there are other types.

If an owner wants to have breed his pet he needs to get permission by paid permit from the group she's aligned with. Technically an owner isn't allowed to have sex with his pet out of reproduction permit but as long as the women he's having sex with is okay with what her owner does and doesn't turn him in to her group for breaking the rules this tends to let slide. If a woman under a man's care get pregnant without permission , he will be massively fined and if the women wants can be removed from the man's ownership.

Well if a woman wants to have a child do play a factor into on if a reproduction permit is granted. This isn't the biggest factor in given out a permit. The point of giving female pets to men in the first place is for reproduction, so it's up to the man to get his female pet pregnant within the rules of how a pet should be treated. Criminal and deviant females can be sent to breeding mills and don't have the same rights as a pets.

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>>7216633
Men are free to buy and sell women among each other but they have to register ownership with the women's aligned group. If a woman a man owns has a female child, that child is free for him to keep, sell or trade just like her mother. Female child are aligned and protected by the same group as her mother. But it's not uncommon for there to be illegally unregister females bought and hidden by men so they can do with treat a female anyway they want. Men who do this risk fines and arrest.

Girls born under a house where her mother is owned as a pet are raised as pets. she is grown and raised in the nude and wearing a collar. Girls born in a group own boarding home tend to sold to an man to raised as a pet when she's old enough to be removed from her mother, she may also instead be raises to be part of the group's hierarchy and help run parts of it. Sex with a girl under breeding age very looked down upon and unlike sex with adult woman isn't forgiven.

The amount of education a pet can have is up to their owner. Female are educated in their group's Hall Building and encourage owners to let them do so, some times by offering discounts for pet food or breeding permits or to teach a pet a skill an owner wants. Most groups teach reading and writing and are encouraged to write stories and books to sell and trade with each other. They also do arts and even sports.

When walking around in the outside world, pets can wear cloaks over their bodies if they want to and depending on the weather and shoes on their feet. They also can wear belts pouches and purses to carry objects and spending money their owner gives them. Jewelry is also common. In vary cold weather woman can where a long sweater and thigh high stocking, but there vagina remain exposed to the air. In side it's pretty common for girls to wear socks to protect their feet or to wear their cloaks in doors if cold.

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>>7216634
Oh, I forgot

Women who lose the ability to have children from age, when they lose a master or is sold back to their guild they are given the option of retiring from the pet life style and can join their guild's hierarchy.

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>>7213202
Here's a yuri one I wrote in a previous thread.

>What is the world like?
It's set in an alternate reality much like ours, but with some slight differences. Technology is more advanced, but not to a sci-fi level. I'll spare the reader details about the rest of the world - the setting we'll be talking about is a country populated only by women, most of whom are slaves, which I'll call Lesbos.

Lesbos allows tourism and business visits by foreigners, including men - more on this later.

>Who are the slaves?
Women who either scored in the slave category during an aptitude test, or are naturalized immigrants. Once someone is designated a slave in Lesbos, it is impossible for them to leave; they will live there for the rest of their life and cannot be freed. However, all slavery is voluntary - more on this later.

>Who are the masters/mistresses?
Women who were born within Lesbos and scored "master" on their aptitude test, earning them a citizenship. About 50% of Lesbian women score in this category. Almost all of them keep slaves.

Lesbos is an all-female country. Aliens are not allowed permanent residence. This is policed very carefully and diligently - only citizens and slaves are allowed to permanently reside in Lesbos. Foreigners are treated well and are welcome, but visits are only allowed for a limited amount of time and the visitors are tracked (with their informed consent).

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>>7216693
Tourists can get visas, but Lesbos doesn't have a ton of tourist attractions, and access to the main population is controlled and the tourists are monitored. Think North Korea, except much friendlier. Most foreigners who visit the country do so for diplomatic or business reasons, and they are treated welcomingly.

Men are allowed to visit, but monitored closely and are allowed only limited, observed contact with the female citizens. Males are not eligible for citizenship. They're treated as equals during business and diplomacy (though most of the diplomats in the country are women, for obvious reasons) - they just have a close, but not hostile, eye on them.

Lesbos only conducts relations with countries that have signed an extradition treaty to them - specifically, these countries have a treaty to return any escaped slaves to Lesbos. Every neighboring country has such a treaty, however, as do most countries nearby. It rarely comes into play since escape is rare but the treaties are honored.

Up until the age of 18, children in Lesbos are raised in communal homes and are given full schooling. Starting from 11, girls begin to receive training on the tasks of servitude (no sexual training). They can choose, at the age of 14, to concentrate their schooling on either standard schooling or on how to be a slave, but some classes from both sections are required in order to give girls a taste of both sides of the pie.

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>>7216694
At 18, they "graduate" and are given an aptitude test to determine whether they're better suited for slavery or freedom. The test can also determine that the girl is suited for either, putting the decision on her - about 10% of girls are in this category. On top of that, each girl has another option - to reject chosen aptitude and leave the country. If she chooses this, the Lesbian government has an entire agency dedicated to setting girls up with new lives in other countries that have elected to allow such immigrants (Lesbian immigrants are generally considered good members of society in other countries). At this point she's a foreign national, and if she decides to return she is treated like other prospective immigrants (I'll get to that later).

Otherwise, the girl assumes the role given to her. Masters earn full citizenship. They can visit other countries freely, but expatriates can have their citizenship revoked. These girls then may pursue higher education.

Lesbian citizens are given the privilege of getting one slave for free, so every citizen can own a slave. Further slaves can be bought fairly easily, as the government sells slaves themselves and prices are intentionally kept affordable so that there aren't girls stuck in the market, unbought.

Citizens cannot be made into slaves. Once free, always free.

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>>7216696
Girls designated "slaves" who have chosen to stay within the country (most do) are then sent to slave training school for two years, expounding on their servitude training, after which they are put up for sale.

Of course, this only covers the girls born in Lesbos. This is actually only a small portion of the population - about 40% of Lesbos are immigrants (this means 30% of Lesbians are free citizens).

All immigrants who wish to reside in Lesbos must do so by being enslaved. Lesbos only accepts immigrants from countries that have signed the extradition treaty promising the return of any escaped slaves. No one can be forced into slavery, however - they must all choose it voluntarily. It's impossible for a tourist to be accidentally enslaved due to the way the immigration and enslavement system is set up.

As mentioned earlier, all immigrants must be slaves, and are not eligible to be masters. Once enslaved, a girl will live out the rest of her life as a slave within the borders of Lesbos. No exceptions.

Lesbos, surprisingly, receives a lot of applications for immigration. So many, in fact, that accepting all of them would place too great a burden on the infrastructure. In addition, Lesbos doesn't want to deal with women who become slaves on a whim and suddenly realize they don't want to be anymore.

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>>7216697
As a result, prospective slaves are kept in "training camps". Once a prospective immigrant submits an application to be a slave in Lesbos, she must immediately come to the training camps and wait there until her application is approved or rejected. She can leave at any time, but this voids her application completely. Prospects must will their property - in the event that she is accepted, it is given away as willed.

If she is accepted, she will be given a choice as to whether to start her new slave life or return to her old one. If she chooses to return, the agency mentioned earlier will help re-settle her to her old life. If she accepts, however, it's off to the market with her - she will live the rest of her life in Lesbos.

The training camps are designed both to train the girls for slavery and to weed out unsuitable prospects. Life in the camps is harsh and boot-camp like. The girls are allowed no possessions and can bring nothing with them - they are transported to camp naked. They will not dress properly again until they either give up and go home or are given clothing by their master.

The girls must wake up at 6 am sharp every day. They are given 3 meals, and spend most of the day training and drilling. Slacking is not allowed, and can disqualify a girl from becoming a slave. The training is physically and mentally grueling, and the girls must be submissive (addressing others as mistress) and obedient.

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>>7216699
Their rooms are similar to prison cells - 4 bunks per room, and they are locked in at night. All the girls bear collars and cuffs on their wrists and ankles - bondage is a large part of life on Lesbos, and they're trained in it well here.

This system serves to filter the Lesbian slave population, and most girls who become slaves are happy for it.

Slaves are all kept collared. Whether an immigrant or not, each slave girl is assigned a collar that cannot be removed even by her owner. It tracks her position with GPS and monitors her vitals. The collar has an attach point for a leash.

Life in Lesbos involves slaves heavily - all citizens own one, often more. There are some rules (all slaves must be kept on a leash when outdoors unless licensed to be allowed without one) and cultural norms (most of the time when outside, an unlicensed slave girl's wrists are supposed to be cuffed behind her back) that are not laws.

Slaves are expected to be deferential to their owners. They must address their owners as "mistress", "ma'am", etc. and obey their commands. The law does provide certain protections against mistreatment and slaves are treated fairly by the law, but they have few actual legal rights beyond the right to be kept healthy and unharmed.

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Sex is also expected of the slave girls. Slaves may be used by their masters sexually, and are obligated to comply and participate. A citizen is never considered to have "raped" a slave, as all slaves are made to understand before they become a slave that they have given up the right to consent. Strapons are common, but culturally they are used only by the master, never the slave. Male foreigners are never permitted to participate in sex with either slaves or citizens.

Reproduction is handled through a form of advanced IVF. In this universe, the technology exists to implant the DNA from a woman's egg into a sperm cell (which Lesbos buys from sperm banks in other countries). With this method, all children are female because neither cell has a Y chromosome. This is allowed to merge with an egg in a lab dish, and the result it implanted in the uterus of a woman who has been sentenced to pregnancy (a form of criminal punishment in Lesbos as an alternative to prison; women may be made to carry one or more such pregnancies). When the baby is born it is taken to the communal nursery where the child will be raised.

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>>7216486
This is an interesting concept. I'm not usually into viewing slaves as disposable, but I like how completely owned they are in this scenario. That even their minds can be manipulated at their owner's whim.

Would owners be able to make adjustments to the slave's body as well as their minds? Maybe take them into some sort of shop. The slave is put to sleep and wakes up with bigger breasts, or a new face, or even in a completely different body.

I have this fantasy about this girl with a magic slave collar who finds her self free/with out a master. No one knows where she came from because she was just a kid that a sell sword found being molested by bandits at the side of the road. He kills them a takes the girl in raising her.

Now the girl's slave collar can not be removed and is very advanced magic/tech wise to everything else seen in this world and has some up sides and downs.

The collar wants the girl to be naked and will goes crazy shocking her if she tries to cover the nipples and vagina. It shocks her if she yells and screams too loud and if speaks out of turn or too emotionally.

Since the collar forces the wearer to be nude it makes an energy field that regulates her body temp to stop the wearer from getting too hot or cold. It also can cover the girl in a force field that can take basically a couple of good sword strikes before failing. When the field fails the temp control fails too and have to recharge.

As the girl grows up she has to deal with being forced to be a nudist. The man that raises her tries his best to raise her as normal as possible. The most of the people of her home village/neighborhood know her and understand her predicament and looks at her nudity as a type of disability that she has no control over and let walk around in public when other women would be harassed/arrested.

Even though there are people understanding of the girl's predicament some people stangers still freak out and harass the girl for being naked so the sell sword that raised her teaches her to fight. Now the girl can wear stuff like a cloak, belt and carry a purse so she can carry a sword on her hip and the sell sword teaches her to fight with a blade.

When the girl become skilled enough and due to her shielding the sell sword starts taking the girl on some missions with him. Later people start hunting the girl down who want to kill her and take her collar to make copies to make super soldiers and slaves.

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>>7216705
>sentenced to pregnancy
>a form of criminal punishment in Lesbos as an alternative to prison
They don't just use slaves for breeding?

>>7217493
They don't. That's not the kind of place Lesbos is.

Both slaves and freewomen can be sentenced to pregnancy. They have no rights to the child once it's born.

>>7217271
>Would owners be able to make adjustments to the slave's body as well as their minds? Maybe take them into some sort of shop. The slave is put to sleep and wakes up with bigger breasts, or a new face, or even in a completely different body.

My first instinct is actually to say no, because it makes them different from the other slaves that are in mass-produced, standardized bodies. This can create a notion of individuality or that the slaves are somehow not directly interchangeable, and both of those are core tenants of my specific take on the fantasy.

That said, I see absolutely no logical reason why that couldn't happen in context of the setting, and it would go a few steps further in cementing the notion that slaves are nothing other than a useful piece of property, along the lines of a PC or a smartphone in today's world. I was just super fantasizing about the utter loss of individuality aspect when I started writing that up.

Though I should also say "disposable" wasn't quite the notion I was going for. You wouldn't see slaves trashed and destroyed just on a whim or anything. It's more of an "If you are dissatisfied with your slave for any reason and don't feel like fixing it yourself, you can easily swap it out for something completely equivalent (To within personality quirks, unless you forcibly remove them) at any time"

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Mine is a fantasy setting, in which magic manifest differently for men and women. Gifted men are enchanters, able to work power into crafted objects. The enchanted items they create can be used by anyone. They are generally respected for their craft.

Gifted women are different. The power of a witch is immediate and wild. They can throw fire and lighting from their fingertips, cloud men's minds, lay curses, etc. To makes matters worst, their magic can respond to their emotions even when they don't consciously choose to use it. They are feared and scorned. In most of the world witches are forced to wear enchanted slave collars.

The collar binds the witch to a particular master. Control can be transferred to a new master, but only by the will of the current master. The slave witch can not use her magic without her master's permission. He (or she) can allow the witch use of her power with a thought, and cut it off again just as easily. He can also will the collar to cause her pain. If she attempts to deliberately harm her master the collar will automatically inflict debilitating agony until she desists. For all her natural power, a collared witch is helpless against her master.

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>>7218411
Masters are responsible for keeping the slave witches under control, and are held accountable for any harm done by their witch's magic. Some keep their slave's abilities constantly suppressed, but most consider the power too useful to give up entirely. Their abilities make them extremely valuable slaves, often prominently displayed by their owners as a status symbol.

Slave witches are usually eager to obey any command to use their magic. Any opportunity to use their power is welcome. Having their magic suppressed is a viscerally frustrating for them. The sensation is similar to orgasm denial.

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>>7213202

In my fantasy all women alive are by default slaves. They are categorized into three separate classes according to their specifications, traits, looks and skills (or lack thereof): A-B-C, A meaning Assistants, B for Breeders and C means Cumdumps.

Assistants are slaves whos main value comes from the services and utilities they provide, from domestic chores like cooking, cleaning, washing to assisting their owners' at work, spotting for them at the gym etc. An assistants value in money is measured mainly by the range of services she provides and the skill which she delivers them.

Breeders are a no-brainer; they're slaves whos main purpose is to produce healthy offspring, breastfeed and tend to them. They're value is measured by their genetic fitness, fertility, anatomical perks (wide hips, large breasts) and maternal tendencies.

Cumdumps are the lowest of the low; slaves lacking any worthwhile skill nor possessing a body fit to bear healthy children. They are delegated to perform the jobs too unsanitary, unpleasant or hazardous to other slaves as well as the dullest but also easiest menial chores.

All slaves regardless of class are expected to be sexually available and willing to service their master, where ever, when ever, their master so wish. As such slaves of all classes typically wear clothing that allow easy acces to their sex (short, loose skirts) and/or enable the effortless substitute for sex (tight, undercut shirts for paizuri etc.)

Legally speaking all slaves owned by private persons have the same rights as domesticated animals or pets. If you're caught severely injuring, abusing, torturing, killing or neglecting slaves you'll end up in trouble, and owners have a legal obligation to treat, feed and tend to their slaves if they become sick etc. An owner who repeatedly abuses his slaves will lose his right to own one, meaning he can still obtain slaves illegally from the black market but that's another story altogether.

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>>7218856

Slaves aren't without their obligations either. All slaves are indoctrinated from early age to try to obey all their master's demands to the best of their abilities. They've been conditioned to receive great satisfaction and fulfillment from being able to please their owners, and to fail doing so is a great source of angst to them.

Slaves that displease, dissatisfy or refuse to obey their owners are expected to be trained further and punished accordingly for their missgivings.

Slaves that continue to be disobedient, or try to harm others or (try to) kill their owner are sent to ''processing''; their limbs are amputated, their mouth is forced permanently open with an o-ring and placed in a public spot (trainstation, park, mall parking lot etc.) to be used as a living onahole for poor, homeless men who cannot afford slaves of their own. The slaves are left there, their only source of food or drink the cum they're pumped full in their asses, pussies and mouths. They're literally fucked to death.

Understandebly it is in a slave's best interest to obey and serve their master in all things in order to avoid such fate.

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>>7218873

In my fantasy I'm the owner of an A, B and C class slaves. I start my day pumping my breeder full of cum in a mating press while my assistant makes breakfast.

Once that's done I have a quick shower before eating, my assistant washing my hair and back, helping me shave and such.

Then I get to my breakfast and coffee, sitting down on the sofa and watch the news while my cumdump slavegirl licks and massages my balls with her mouth, keeping them nice and toasty. If I get erect I'll shoot the excess seed down her throat and make her lick my cock clean, otherwise I'll just get dressed and ready for work.

Before I depart I instruct my assistant to keep kneading and suckling on my breeder's tits in order to assure continuous milk-production and increase the quantity of lactation at regular intervals while I'm away, as well as remind my cumdump to lick my assistant's and breeder's pussies and assholes everytime after they use the toilet.

*a slice of life in my fantasy*

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Oh sweet, these are back.

I've got to scrape together a list of all the really awesome pastebins from the 2015 threads, since I still have that somewhere, but in the meantime here's a pile of crap I've been doing since:

https://www.literotica.com/stories/memberpage.php?uid=2511843&page=submissions

http://fmannerly.livejournal.com/6197.html

Anyone else know of any good smut for this?

>>7218912
Here's the pastebin list form a July 2016 thread. It's the most recent I could find.

>Griz and Scarlet:
Part 1 (>>6098130) http://pastebin.com/T4DEpy18
Part 2 (>>6109060) http://pastebin.com/PCTKSeih
Part 3 (>>6101896) http://pastebin.com/smmDTew0

>Enslaved Goddesses (Pharaza’s stuff) (from
>>6128148):
A Day In The Life (rehosted) (>>6137320) http://pastebin.com/Zxq6jVch
The perks of property (>>6140479) http://pastebin.com/DYMfw3vq
Fertility: A practical study (>>6172113) http://pastebin.com/n9rXe76J

>A1386G/Marie-verse:
>Main A1386G Series:
Pt 1: http://pastebin.com/Kmj7MVcW
Pt 2: http://pastebin.com/cjQXnstC
Pt 3: http://pastebin.com/YFdxsQCY
Pt 4: http://pastebin.com/EhxRfdWf
Pt 5: http://pastebin.com/bWHGCwPv
>Side Materials and Flash Forwards for A1386G:
An encounter with A1386E: http://pastebin.com/mjRLDUcn
A1386G Side Story #1 Jimmy makes a Special Friend: http://pastebin.com/eA1iXSXp
A1386G Side Story #2 Katerina’s First Day: http://pastebin.com/uef0GjY1

Kaylee's New Life. Medieval/fantasy setting. M/f, F/f.
1 - http://pastebin.com/GN2TyrqA
2 - http://pastebin.com/wB1bd5R0
3 - http://pastebin.com/AFx1AXha
4 - http://pastebin.com/1ZZD6q4j
5 - http://pastebin.com/x2Zrjmsi
6 - http://pastebin.com/Dij0dmPj
7 - http://pastebin.com/tGgPqCVz
8 - http://pastebin.com/bYEve6zA

Unexpected inheritance. Modern setting. F/f.
Chapter 1 - http://pastebin.com/LAtPyncM
Chapter 2 - http://pastebin.com/F6SnrH3d

Lesbian Slave Planet. Sci-Fi. F/f
Slave-Sister Rivalry - http://pastebin.com/gA6ZJDmh
Newly Sold - http://pastebin.com/sRPf9PcU
Counseling Session - http://pastebin.com/QvkatJeE
Counseling Follow-Up - http://pastebin.com/Ye5bMCnN
Getting Reacquanted - http://pastebin.com/ztbsKZTG

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>>7218922
It was incomplete.
I pieced together more stuff from what was listed in thread X (>>6454156) and threw in lesbian slave planet, since that post dates the older stuff.
But that's about all of it that I've been able to find.

Since it's so goddamned long, have a pastebin
http://pastebin.com/ir1QM5sr

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So, question for those of you that fantasize about being slaves, regardless of setting (No reason everybody else can't answer too from their perspectives, though): Do you ever fantasize about being part of a harem of slaves? If so, what kind of relationships exist within the harem? Relative equality, or a hierarchy among the slaves?

Reason I ask is because lately I've been fantasizing about being part of such a hierarchy, or more specifically, at the very bottom of it. In addition to my duties and obedience to a hypothetical master/mistress (the specific gender never matters much to me), the other slaves treat me as their stress relief and toy, relishing the opportunity to exert power over somebody, ranging from obvious demonstrations such as rape or flat beatings to more subtle things such as sabotaging work and attempting to distract me to keep me from properly fulfilling my duties and reduce my standing with the master, which makes him care even less about how the other slaves treat me.

I dunno, the idea of a slave to other slaves, even if not formally, is something I've fapped to more than once recently. Especially since I like to imagine that I'd actively be treated roughly and passed around like a sex toy (This is /d/, after all) because it's the primary outlet for stress relief (and sexual relief) that the slaves get, and their only chance to be much of anything other than perfectly obedient to their master.

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>>7219514
Honestly, looking at it from the outside, I'd probably try to avoid having a strict hierarchy develop unless I had reason to establish departments and even then, it'd just be Victorian as fuck.

That said, the idea of getting my harem their own bitch seems like it'd be fun if there were more than say three girls already. I'd probably feel sorry for the poor little bitch though.

>>7218856
I like the cast system, honestly it would be stable if Breeders produced mostly cumdumps due to the high death rate they would probably have due the hazardous and dangerous work they doe like use their tongues to clean peoples butt like toilet paper.

Cumdump could be intently created by causing premature births making a smaller weaker humans. Removing ovaries after birth could also keep them small. If Breeders are pumped with high enough female hormones they could turn males into hermaphrodites born with deform penginas. A Cumdump would probably be put to work as soon as possible ie as children and kept under fed and skinny. In a demotic home they would assist the Assistant class with some tasks and chores. They are known for clean dishes before they are washed. They also lick clean people after using the toilet and after sex. Demotic are kept young so they eat less food and are trade out as they age. Then they are bought up by businesses like restaurants and office buildings to be used there.

Breeders would be pumped full of hormones and drugs to keep calm. They are always pumping out eggs and tend to birth twins at a time. They are fatten to the point where they are just overweight to give their bodies enough fat and energy to produce children quickly and lots of milk. Breeders tend to be born from Breeders, but can be made of children of Assistant who didn't make the cut for that group. It's rare for Breeder children to move up a class since they are they are overweight and due to epigenetics their children tend to be fatter then Assistant children. Breeders would rarely have sex with men and instead be bred by inseminator gun poked into their womb.

Assistant are formed from most desired, This is the type a uses so he can have and raise his own children. Females are graded, princed. bought, sold and bred for premium. Men tend to breed them the natural way.

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>>7219514
From the dom/master perspective, I've always liked the idea of hierarchy among a harem.

I'd pick one girl to be mistress of the harem. Giving her full authority to give orders to the other slaves, and discipline them as she sees fit. With the obvious limitation that she can't override my commands.

She would still be my slave. I'd make a point of humbling her in front of the others from time to time. To make sure she doesn't forget her place. If I ever become dissatisfied with her management of the harem, I could revoke her privileged position at any time.

I'd have a bottom position like you're describing as well. A slave to the slaves. I'd find the most extreme submissive among them, and make it her job to sexually service the others. Keeping up harem morale both through the sexual release itself, and by giving them someone they can boss around.

Just like I would occasionally humble the top girl, I would also make sure to show the bottom girl some kindness from time to time.

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>>7219639
Yeah, just doing something to establish that you are the sole provider of status seems like it'd be necessary in that setup.

I'd probably go about giving the gimp a candy bar, and a mani-pedi (courtesy of the mistress,) just for shits and giggles.

>>7219514
I thought about an orgy convent thing make up of like these sex vampires. There is this energy that they suck in form doing sexual things the more dominant you are in the hierarchy the more physical power you have. These vampires can live solely off the sex, raping and being raped.

At the top of the hierarchy you have the House Lord.

Below the House Lord is his family who he or she take, concubine, children, siblings, exedra. their bodies are for the House Lord to use or if allowed for them to use.

Servants are the next lowest and is for the House Lord and his kin to use. Higher servants have power over and use lower servants.

Then you have the children of servants,

Last is older children on younger children. That how the cycle goes as soon as someone find someone for something to take advantage of in this world they take it and put their power over them.

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>>7218411
>>7218420
I remember a similar idea from a previous thread. I'm a huge fan of this concept.

I love the ideas of slaves that possess the potential for incredible power but are institutionally unable to use it, and in fact disempowered by it. The gift they were born with is, in practice, a curse. A slave witch goes through life knowing that because of her power she will never have freedom. In a sense, her power is a source of disempowerment.

- When does a witch's power manifest, and is there a way to detect magical power early? The witch must be collared as soon as possible, after all.
- Are witches forced to attend special schooling before being distributed to their masters?
- For that matter, how are they distributed?
- Does the master need to be a magic user, or can anyone paired to the slave collar control the enthralled witch?
- Does a collar have any additional powers besides magic suppression and corporal punishment? For example, could it be used to grant a reward, or to force the slave to obey an order?
- The power of a witch could be said to be tailored for particular applications. What kind of person is a master? Is it mainly people who need the power of a witch, or do people own witches and use them as common servants, ignoring their magical abilities entirely?
- Does sex have additional meaning for witches? Could, for example, sexual release substitute for magical release? Or perhaps sex has an effect on the witch's powers?

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>>7219514
So here's one of mine that I have posted elsewhere before:

The harem of thirty-ish is administrated by the prince's mother (the queen-consort). While it is the prince's harem, the queen is the one who actually has final authority over it, superceding even the prince himself, and she's the one who structures it.

The harem has specific, formal classes for the girls. Mobility is possible but rank within the harem is prescriptive and an actual title change must be granted. The status a girl starts out with is determined by what she was before being brought into the harem.

1. Head girl - She is appointed by the queen to oversee the harem. She's in charge of almost everything and reports directly to the queen. The head girl has broad authority and her position is meant to be long-term, but she can lose her position for a great failure. The head girl is allowed to leave the harem complex as long as she informs the eunuchs.

2. High class - These girls are the higher class members of the harem. These are mostly the third or fourth daughters of great families, or any daughter of lesser nobility. They are allowed to leave the harem complex after having a formal request approved (they have to be back before dusk), and out in public, they have great status (but little power). Strict rules apply on these excursions. They are allowed to present themselves before the prince first when he comes to use the harem.

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>>7219943
3. Middle class - These girls are the middle class of the harem, made up mainly of the daughters of tradesmen or artisans. There are also a few "fallen" nobles in this class, who have made some mistake while they were high class and were demoted. Middle class girls may never leave the walls of the complex. They may present themselves after the high class girls, and may not speak until after the high class girls have been picked through.

4. Low class - These girls are usually the daughters of commoners. Their peasant parents were happy to receive a sum in exchange for the uncommon beauty of their daughter. Some are also girls who fell from middle class. Low class girls are not allowed to speak until spoken to and are delegated most of the menial chores of the harem (middle class girls and above are allowed to relax most of the time). They are forbidden from wearing clothing besides a bit of cloth for breast support and to cover the genitals.

In addition to all of the above, the class of the girl dictates the type of sex she will probably have with the prince:

- The head girl and high class girls get vaginal and anal sex.

- The middle class girls will usually give blowjobs and handjobs. They get anal for good behavior, and vaginal is a rare treat.

- The lower class girls lick the semen from the higher girls' orifices, or serve as support (such as acting as a "bed", letting a girl rest on her back as she is fucked by the prince).

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>>7219945
These aren't strict rules that apply to the prince - rather, they are common sense and it is only natural for him to put them into practice. To the prince, the fact that vaginal pleasure is the realm of the higher class girls is just an obvious norm.

Naturally, masturbation is strictly forbidden for all harem members.

In theory, a girl could intentionally enter the harem as a lower status girl intentionally.

The inner workings of the harem are private. No one except the queen, the prince, and some eunuchs (the ones specifically chosen for the duty) are allowed into the complex.

To speak of the inner workings of the harem to outsiders is a taboo, and no one would think of inquiring into or sharing that information. It's not particularly useful intel since harem members are not the same as concubines and have no political influence or relevance, and it's a social taboo. Once a girl goes into the harem, her family is to forget her existence. Even the high class girls are forbidden from seeking contact with their families (and in fact, they would be shunned by their family if they tried).

This means that if a girl were to degrade her own status, no one on the outside would ever know. Her family would assume she simply never chooses to leave - if they even give her a thought.

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>>7219948
There are two ways for a girl to start off in the lower class:

1. Atonement. Becoming a harem girl is the female equivalent to ASoIaF's "taking the black". A young girl with a good enough appearance may be offered the opportunity to take the harem as an alternative punishment. A girl who enters the harem under these terms starts at the bottom regardless of birth.
2. To enter as a non-virgin. Girls who enter the harem and are discovered to not be virgins upon entry are assigned the lowest class regardless of birth. The exception is if the prince was the one to claim her virginity - unless it can be proved that she had sex with someone else between that and entering the harem, she is exempt from this requirement and is allowed to start from the rank appropriate for her birth.

A masochistic girl might break her own hymen to fake her own loss of virginity (though that in itself is not proof that a girl is not a virgin).

Within the harem, only the rank within the harem matters. Birth is irrelevant (though it does determine initial rank). A lower class girl who tried to use her birth in an argument would be ignored.

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>>7219951
The relationship between the high and middle class is very different from that between the middle and low. The high class and middle class girls often strike up friendships (though still strictly respecting the superior-subordinate relationship in all cases), as they have lots of time to relax together and have an absurd amount of "free time". However, the low class girls do not get to strike up similar relationships with the middle class girls. This relationship is almost always strictly that of superior and inferior.

In fact, the low class girls have little opportunity to strike up friendships even with each other. After all, they're not allowed to speak without permission - and they can't give each other permission!

There is no privacy in the harem. It is carefully designed so almost every point within the building can be seen from most of the rest of the harem. Pillars are used rather than walls. It is even acoustically designed to make conversations carry.

Cooking is a task delegated to the middle class. Some of the higher class girls enjoy cooking, and volunteer to help. This is a great source of socialization.

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The way the girls sleep has much to do with rank. There aren't bedrooms, just a common sleeping area. High class girls get a mattress of their own. Middle class girls get second pick, and usually share (some close high-middle friendships share together). The low class girls are required to sleep in the "pit" - a set of mats laid next to each other on the floor that all the low class girls can fit on if they pile up onto each other.

And you may have noticed… yes, the middle and high class girls do actively make an effort to subjugate the low class girls and decrease their quality of life. The reasons why a girl may be low class are enough for the middle class girls to look down on them (crime and non-virgin should be obvious. Peasantry is associated with laziness or lack of ambition in the family).

>>7219514
And yeah, it seems we're cut from the same cloth. I love the idea of being a "slave to slaves" too. In a group of girls in which even those of the highest status have to cope with frustration from underuse, I, in the bottom tier, am the outlet for such frustrations.

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>>7219943
This all seems less than optimal for the production of (great) grandchildren. Which presumably is the one thing the Queen-consort wants most.

Actually, how dramatically does one of the girl's status improve if they actually have children?
And what happens to the harem when the prince becomes king?

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>>7219612
>Cumdump could be intently created
>Breeders are pumped with high enough female hormones they could turn males into hermaphrodites born with deform penginas
>Breeders would rarely have sex with men and instead be bred by inseminator gun poked into their womb.

All this just sounds awful

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>>7219926
>- When does a witch's power manifest, and is there a way to detect magical power early?
The power remains dormant until at least puberty. There's no way to know if a woman is a witch until her magic actually does something for the first time. This usually happens as a response to stress or a strong desire. If it happens in public she's immediately outed. If there are no witnesses (or the witnesses are willing to keep quiet) she may try to hide it. But most eventually slip sooner or later.

>- Are witches forced to attend special schooling before being distributed to their masters?
No. Witches don't need to learn spells. They just focus on the effect they want and let their magic flow. They learn better control through practice, but there isn't anything book learning can do for their type of magic.

>- For that matter, how are they distributed?
Generally speaking, whoever first collars a witch owns her. In many cases that will be a professional witch hunter. Some witches willingly allow a family member or close friend to collar them, to avoid being taken by a stranger.

Once collared, the witch is property that can be sold or given away like any other. Though unlike mundane slaves, witches can't be legally set free. Accepting ownership of a slave witch means taking responsibility for keeping her under control. Like owning a dangerous animal.

>- Does the master need to be a magic user, or can anyone paired to the slave collar control the enthralled witch?
The collars will accept anyone as a master.

>- Does a collar have any additional powers besides magic suppression and corporal punishment?
Particularly talented enchanters may include additional features, and charge a premium for the work. The more a magic item can do, the more difficult it is to create.

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>>7219926
>- The power of a witch could be said to be tailored for particular applications.
Witch magic is very versatile, and can be an asset in almost any task you want to accomplish. The main limitation is that their effects only last as long as they stay focused on them. Enchantment is slow but lasting. Witchcraft is immediate but fleeting.

>What kind of person is a master? Is it mainly people who need the power of a witch, or do people own witches and use them as common servants, ignoring their magical abilities entirely?
Most people who own witches utilize their magic, because it's simply too useful to ignore.

Most notably, witch hunters will keep one or two slave witches to help them subdue fugitive witches. They rarely keep more than two. They make their living by selling the rest to nobles and wealthy merchants. Each one is a pretty large payday. Enough to get them through the times between captures, and justify the risk.

There are some who keep their witch's power constantly suppressed. Usually because they're afraid of what their witch might do given a chance. Others simply enjoy the effect the denial has on the slave.

>- Does sex have additional meaning for witches? Could, for example, sexual release substitute for magical release? Or perhaps sex has an effect on the witch's powers?
Sexual release can help take a witch's mind of her magical frustration. Indeed many witches become horny when they're being wand blocked. Which is reason enough for some masters to keep their magic suppressed for extended periods of time.

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>>7219743
I was thinking of summoning the bottom slave to my bed on occasion. Behind the closed door we'd either have gentle sex focused on her pleasure, or give her a break from sex for the night.

Maybe I'd let her raid the mistress's closet and try on whatever she wanted. Maybe even just let her talk for awhile with the promise that she wouldn't be ridiculed or punished for anything she said.

An idea I had is a Vampire controlled fantasty world. The world building is that Vampires managed to overwhelm the mostly human realms and take over most of the world. Free areas exist in remote areas and are raided for slaves to keep them from developing as a threat and then add to the slaves. Mountains, swamps, islands and steppes.

Vampires feed off fluids and sexual energy. Their own fluids act as lubricant, adphrodisacs, fertility enhancers and lower the willpower of the person who consumes it. Long term consumption makes the consumer more beautiful and submissive, but weaker.

There are a few main ranks.

Vampires. They rule and exist only as nobles. Organised in a feudal structure from Kings to Knights. Vampires compete not through direct confrontation but through social maunvering and proxies.

Unbleed. Humans who serve as the middle class and warriors for their vampiric over lords. They are not feed on to keep them at peak performance. They also manage the rural areas most of the year as Vampires do not want to venture out of the comfort of the city. Additionally they conduct most of the slave raiding and trade.

The Slaves. They are the majority. They toil to keep their vampire lords in comfort and are regularly bleed to keep them docile. The rural ones are able to avoid most feeding and thus form most of the rebellions. To try prevent this, every tax season their overlord will visit each village to rape them. Additionally slaves have to visit the urban area where their lord resides to get married, which involves the right of the first night. A night where the husband and wife both get fucked by the vampire and all their friends. Those who try to dodge the marriage law or taxes will be moved to a far harsher position.

Vampires can not breed with each other, though marriage does exist as temporary partnerships. They can breed with humans creating humans. These humans can be made into Vampires by feeding them their sires blood regularly for a time.

>>7220556
However few new Vampires are created as Vampires are long lived and few new lands are carved out.

Unbleed compete to become Vampires and serve as willing proxies in the vampires feuds, slave raiding and in suppressing rebellion. They also get to use some of the slaves of their masters. Bleed slaves commonly marry Unbleed so they do not have to go through the first night and will no longer be fed on. Of course the Vampire master has to approve.

Social standing changes based on respect, age and slaves. Favourite slaves can be kidnapped by rival vampires to be raped to humiliate their master. Higher ranking vampires can also fuck their lessers to keep them in line. Humiliating them at social gathering and showing them up in the arts. Murder is rare, but beating them up or rape is common. This constant conflict is allowed most of the time, but if a vampire pisses off a high lord or the King, and has no simarily ranked protector, they can be killed or sentenced to be raped by any Vampire or Unbleed.

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It's a large ranch, made up of Master's estate, a nursery, a barn, fields of crop, and a large inn.
Slaves are born there and given a white collar from birth, and are taught domestic duties, and forced to wrestle each other for the entertainment of the rearers (also slaves) and or the Master of the ranch,
After the slave reaches a certain age they are then split up, into four groups, the slaves that retain their white collar are auctioned off at a high price for personal use, the strongest slaves are given a brown leather collar and forced to live in the barn as livestock among other slaves (male and female, but all locked in chastity), and have to plow and harvest the fields.

Slaves that are given a black collar are domesticated and turned into manservants/maids and are left to wait on Master and Master's family, along with preparing all the food, and cleaning including the barn used to store the livestock and the livestock themselves, as such they are able to lead the livestock outside by their leashes, and hose them down against the side of the barn.


Service slaves given a red lacy collar, (usually acquisitions, and/or non-virgins) are made to work in the inn, serving drinks and servicing patrons who have the money, (domesticated slaves are used to prepare food behind the scenes so that none of the available slaves are hidden from public eye.)

After the slaves begin to age beyond their usefulness for their purpose they are either promoted to seniors, and in charge of running the rest of the slaves, or auctioned off as used goods, or consigned to the nursery to become breeders, rearers, and used as props to teach the younger slaves how to properly service their new Master/Mistress after they're sold off. These are given a new metallic collar as a reward for their long service.

In this fantasy the domesticated slaves outrank the other breeds, but they are also in charge of cleaning after them, so there's an equilibrium of sorts.

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>>7220595
Apart from the senior ones, no slaves in the same subset have authority over each other, domestic slaves are kept busy following orders, and entertaining any requests of the Master's family, livestock slaves know they are punished for talking to each other the most interacting they'll do with each other is snuggle up in haybundles for warmth, and fight for space at the troughs.
Service slaves have a very steady stream of customers due to Master's land being built off a busy trade route, and near a developing town, so have little time for each other.

On top of this slaves know that a failed senior slave also gets to pick three other slaves that they blame for their failings to be punished with them, so there's no issues with disobedience.

So there are some higher slaves like with >>7219639 but they are still under the strict authority of Master and Master's family.

Like >>7219514 said some do relish in the newfound authority, to punish their slaves, and it has the bonus of creating an example to keep the rest of the slaves scared and obedient.

>>7220073
Meat bag slavery at the industrial level, I'm always amazed how much modern society can consume, what it takes to sustain it.

I suppose Breeders wouldn't get it that bad. I imagine them living an institutionalized give regular pills to give them dual child like minds for handers to control. To occupy their time Breeder buildings would be often connected to a farm of assembly factory. Some could be shipped from place to play depending on where work is at.

>>7220556
My in vampire world vampires are genomancers, their houses/territory resembles that seen in Castlevania and Vampire Hunter D. Each house holding a small family of Vampires. The Vampires pride themselves with collecting and breeding monsters.

Due to their inherent genomancer abilities vampires are hard to kill as their powers make them physically strong let them heal fast, faster if they consume organic martial like meat, plants and dirt. Decapitation works most of the time.

Vampire use their genomancer power to manipulate living creatures, taming them with metal control and manipulating their physical appearance. Vampires use their powers to create new monsters for their collection. Making monsters are seen as an art and a Vampire make take weeks months or even years slowly changing a creature's biology like an artist sculpting or painting to get the desired result. Most prized monsters are made from human females as a based or made to look like a human female, female breast being the most desired human trait put into a humanoid monster.

Some women and men volunteer to serve and or to have their physical appearance changed, But this is ether to gain new abilities and powers or to extend their life since vampires tend to want to keep their close servants alive so they stop their ageing and rejuvenate their bodies. Changes done to the servants is what the servants allow their lord to do to them. Unwilling subjects given to the lord or taken from villages aren't as lucky and can be subjected to long and painful tesfromations.

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>>7220956

The highest skill Vampires can do is manipulate a female's genetic eggs to consistently birth viable desired monster offspring make a new species to act as a template for farther manipulation. But most of the time changes a Vampire makes to a subject is cosmetic and if bred would just birth whatever it was the creature was based from.

If a Vampire wants to drastically change a human's appearance and have that creature as a viable savant, the best age would be of 2 years old. For example Vampire wants to turn a girl into a lamia it better to do it at a young age, children are more adaptable then adults. An older person would be depressed from having a drastic changed force upon them and would need server mind wiping to even function mush less act autonomously. Forcefully changing older people is a way a Vampire shows power over their subjects by showing anyone of them could be turned into a monster if they transgress. This type of monster is best used in monster fights or as a shield form castle invaders.

After a couple years a young child wouldn't even remember not having a snake body and would be loyal to the master that raise her and easily trained. A Vampire can take their lamia to parties and show off their work as she stands there like a polite girl. She would need treatments now and then to make sure her body is growing right. Changing a creature before birth is hard to do, the fetus has a habit and dying. Young babies have a habit and dying too as they change too, well a Vampire can bring them back to life brain damage is hard to fix.
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>>7219743
>I'd probably go about giving the gimp a candy bar, and a mani-pedi (courtesy of the mistress,
What, so with the bottome slave (I feel like there ought to be a better term for it) you'd be allowed to mistreat the bottom slave however you see fit, but you'd need to get your Mistress's permission to be nice to it?

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>>7220997
No, speaking as the master in the situation I'd be giving the bottom girl the candy bar, and making the mistress/head girl give the bottom girl a mani-pedi.

>>7220008
Harem members do not have children. All of the girls are chemically or surgically made infertile through a method that does not affect their libido.

Remember, the harem is not a list of the king's consorts. It is a construct meant to organize and control the king's pleasure slaves. The harem girls are purely for pleasure and nothing else. The king's wife is not a harem member and he may even have concubines or consort with courtesans who are not part of the harem. Harem girls are simply those girls who have been reserved specifically for the use of the king or crown prince.

It is incredibly undesirable for harem girls to have children. The harem girls are essentially private sex toys. The idea of the "harem" is specifically designed to minimize their impact on the outside world - as well as to minimize the impact of the outside world of them.

For a harem girl to have children would put her out of commission for up to 9 months. The biggest problem is actually that for a harem girl to have children would mean that she has had an impact on the outside world. That's something a harem girl is never to be allowed to do. Once a girl is in the harem, she is not to be anything but a sex toy for her king.

The infertility is not meant as a way to affect the girls' status. It's mostly a utilitarian procedure. That said, harem girls are intended to "not exist" for anyone except for their owner.

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>>7221123
That just seems like a waste of noble blood and a harem if they're not even shooting out an heir every now and then, but whatever, it's not my fantasy.

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>>7221481
The harem I have in mind is not a utilitarian institution meant to provide an overall benefit to the royal family or the country. Rather, it is a luxury that is available only to those possessing the greatest privilege.

The concept of waste doesn't really apply to entertainment. The harem does not exist to serve a purpose. It is simply an extravagance of royalty. The harem does not produce any goods whatsoever, and its cost is simply written off as a form of entertainment. It does not pay for its own upkeep nor is it expected to.

The noble blood in question isn't relevant. Primogeniture is closely tied with nobility, as splitting up a noble's holdings would eventually reduce it to nothing - so the blood of a noble besides the firstborn son isn't worth much. As I mentioned, the "noble girls" in question are spares of spares anyway, and their noble blood isn't worth much to anyone.

In any case, there isn't a shortage of heirs that would cause harem girls to need to produce. If heirs were necessary, concubines would be used rather than the harem.

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>>7220122
>>7220168
- Are there procedures in most places where young girls would be found (such as schools) to subdue and restrain witches? Does society keep very close watch over all young girls because of the possibility of them being witches?
- Is there any pattern to the manifestations of magical powers, such as inheritance, or is it totally random? This applies even to boys - is there a way to predict which individuals are most likely to end up with magic, or is it totally random?
- Is there any variance in terms of what each witch is good at? Do they end up with specializations based on their personalities, or do they all have the same capabilities with personality merely being an influence over how they prefer to use their powers?
- Can someone besides the witch's owner take advantage of the collar's powers to steal control of her? If she receives conflicting commands, what happens?
- Do a witch's powers have any affect on her body? Either by using them, or by just having them?
- What status do collared witches hold in society? Are they treated as inferiors, or would they simply be treated as being of a slightly lower class? Are they often used as companion slaves, or do masters keep a distance when not using them? Are they still feared after collaring, or simply looked down upon?
- Besides the collar, are witches to be marked in public, perhaps with a distinctive form of dress, either by law or by convention?

>>7218891
what happens when breeder gets preggo

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>>7221603
>- Are there procedures in most places where young girls would be found (such as schools) to subdue and restrain witches?
In cities there would be active efforts to watch for any signs of young women displaying magic. In some places witch hunters might even be allowed to "test" suspected witches. Which would involve trying to panic the potential witch into using magic. Such as by holding the girl's face under water.

In small towns and villages, the emergence of new witches would rare enough that they generally don't worry about it until it happens.

>- Is there any pattern to the manifestations of magical powers, such as inheritance, or is it totally random?
The children of magically gifted parents are more likely to be gifted themselves. Which means their daughters will be more closely watched. But there are no guarantees. Even when both parents are gifted, the child may be mundane. And gifted children can pop up even in a family with no history of magic.

>- Is there any variance in terms of what each witch is good at?
They will be better at types of magic they have more experience with. Practice will help them achieve a particular effect with less effort, and control it more precisely.

>- Can someone besides the witch's owner take advantage of the collar's powers to steal control of her?
The collar will only accept one master at a time. Whoever puts the collar on her becomes her first master. A new master can be get set by the current master transferring control.

A master can set the collar to automatically transfer control to a designated heir in the event of his death. One is expected to do this shortly after acquiring a slave witch. If a witch's master dies without setting an heir, her collar will deactivate and unlock.

>>7221677

They become mothers to a child

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>>7221603
>- Do a witch's powers have any affect on her body? Either by using them, or by just having them?
Not particularly. She can make temporary alterations to herself, but that will only lasts as long as she maintains her focus.

>- What status do collared witches hold in society?
This varies a lot depending on the local culture and the master. Some slave witches are treated not so differently from free servants. More often than not though, people enjoy seeing a witch humbled by her enslavement. It's common for them to be led by a leash, made to kneel at their master's feet, and give other abject displays of submission. Most are used sexually by their masters.

>- Besides the collar, are witches to be marked in public, perhaps with a distinctive form of dress, either by law or by convention?
A slave witch's clothing would be entirely at the digression of her master. Many would be forced to wear revealing harem girl style outfits.

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>>7221777
So how often does someone deliberately breed witches, or keep a witch around to produce a (hopefully) magical heir?

>>7221677

She begins to lactate copious amounts of milk, and after nine weeks gives birth and after that tends to the child for the first year. It's easy for breeders to tend as many as five children at a time.

If it's a boy he'll be raised as a son. If it's a girl two things can happen. On one hand I might want to keep her, raise her like a daughter, teach her domestic chores and such and keep her as an Assistant to tend to me in my old age. If she's fit to bear children and I wish for grandchildren I could try to sell her or even hand her away as a gift to a male collegue or friend, after I'm convinced she'll be given a good home and treated right.

The other option is to simply give the female infant away to a public slave school, where she will be taught and educated how to be a proper slave from infanthood, as well as evaluated into the classes. If she's more handy, industrious and skilled than blessed with childbearing hips and fertility, she'll be categorized as an Assistant. If she's displaying hypermaternal behaviour and has the body fit to pop babies more than she can actually perform demanding tasks, she'll be categorized as a Breeder. If she rebels, causes havoc, resists her training, tries to escape etc. she will be demoted as a Cumdump.

In all cases once she comes of age she'll be placed under auction. Customers looking for assistants and breeders will be screened before hand and kept in contact to ensure the slaves end up with owners who know to and can keep them. Cumdumps on the other hand are sold indiscriminately, except for customers who have been blacklisted.

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>>7221802
Witch breeding wouldn't normally be a very practical business model. Even when both parents are gifted, only about half of their children would inherit their power. So only about 1/4 would be new witches. And it would be 16+ years before you'd know that a girl is a witch.

There are however some slave breeding farms, where enchanters experiment with methods of altering those birth ratios. Using magic to try to guarantee that the child will be female and inherit her mother's abilities. This is a relatively new and controversial development. Banned in many places.

Does anyone else have like a raising a slave family or raising slave children fantasy? Like how would you do it?

I always imagine my self in a world where girls are kept as pets and it common to make them walk around naked. I like to imagine my self with two girl, one is of breeding age wo would be like a mother or older sister to the other a young girl who like this little kid.

As a guy I would hump the older one like a rabbit. She would be an out let of physical needs. She will also doe most of the house work and cooking. I will treat the kid like a princess giving was mush of my love and affection I can and hopefully she'll love me back. I would be trying get the feeling you get when you snuggle up with a big cat from her encourage her to lay next to me so I can stroke and pet her. Since she's a pet as a default she walk around the house in nude. She's be only allowed clothing I physically dress her in, I'm not a high maintenance person so most of the time so I'd probably wouldn't bother dressing her unless she asks me to dress her or we are going out and I want to show my pet off. I will also buy toys and games for her to play with.

As the little girl get older and become sexually mature I'm unsure what I'd do. I might start using her sexually it depending on if I ever get those kind of feeling for her and if she is my biological daughter. She'll probably still get sexed up, As a female part of her value is her ability to have children if I won't make babies with her specially if she is my biological daughter someone else would be will too and would probably pay good money to do it and take the child she births too. But I'd would like to at least keep one of the children a girl so I have another little pet to raise, Plus I have a granddaughter to keep and raise.

>>7222205
>Does anyone else have like a raising a slave family or raising slave children fantasy? Like how would you do it?

See >>7221949

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>>7221544
This is how I usually prefer my slavery scenarios. With slaves as luxury goods, who's only real purpose is entertainment.

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>>7213202
>What sort of world is it?

A modern Fantasy world with elves, dark elves, foxgirls, etc. A world were slavery changed itself as time went on to the point of slaves are now like pets that you can have do house/yard work and use as fuck toys someone to play games with and so on. Slaves are easy to spot from a free person between the collars & leash and/or chains along with the tight skimpy clothing. You have no way to hide your status as a slave in public. Even if you run across someone you use to know or family that didn't know you are a slave now.

>Do you imagine yourself as a slave or an owner

An Elf slave girl naturally. Anything else would feel wrong

>Who are the slaves?

Anyone that wants to be. Slaves aren't breed or capture or anything the life is completely voluntary once out of highschool a person has a choice to keep with the life they have started or throw it all out the window and become a slave for the rest of their lives.

>How are slaves treated?

Rather well as owners treat them like a favored pet. Chances of being sold to a company or other public use is very rare. Its used for slaves that misbehave & aren't suited as a privately owned slave or even the nympho types who became slaves just for the fuck toy aspect of it in the first place. And are more than happy to be public use slave.

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>>7221746
- Are all girls treated as potential witches? Or is evidence required before a testing happens?
- Are there places such as small villages where a girl can get away with being a free witch? Or is the collaring of witches such a public safety concern that even the most remote and isolated of locations would be prepared for emergence?
- Are young women with a high likelihood of becoming witches collared before the gift can even appear? Or is the collaring of witches purely reactive? If a girl were collared before emergence, how would that affect the development of her powers?
- It seems like society revels in the humiliation of witches. What other ways is a witch made to be humiliated?
- Does society take measures to ensure that each master has willed an heir, just to be sure no witch can escape?
- Are witches typically allowed to socialize, with either free people or each other? To what extent, if so?

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Carly woke up. How long had she been unconscious? She was laying on her back in a bed in a small room. Carly tried to look around, but was unable to turn her head. A woman stepped into her view, clad in a labcoat. The woman's eyes never left the clipboard she was holding, and she began to read aloud:
"Miss Jenkins, eight days ago you were in a serious automobile accident at the intersection of Garrison and Sixth."
That's right! Carly's memories were piecing themselves together. I was sideswiped by that pickup truck who ran the red light! What happened?
The woman continued, "An independent panel of five doctors unanimously agreed that the only way to save you would be a full-body prosthesis, a process popularly known as 'robotization', and your case was transferred to Kortech, Incorporated."
"Ughh", Carly groaned. Her mouth did not move; her voice came from an internal speaker.
"Since you do not have robotization insurance, and because your medical insurance does not cover it, Kortech's underwiters performed a financial audit. They found that you do not posess the finances and assets to pay for this procedure. Your body is therefore the property of Kortech, Inc."
"Surprise surprise," Carly grumbled.
"The Property Management Department is currently overstocked on gynoids of your model, therefore you will be sold at a public auction in fourteen days. Be advised that the buyer will be your owner, and they will have the right to reprogram, repurpose, modify, or dispose of you in any capacity they choose. In a few moments, I will enable your movement so you can sign the necessary paperwork. Do you have any questions?"
"No."
The woman looked up from her clipboard. "Are you sure? Normally people have lots of questions in this situation."
"Up until last week, I was the one giving the speech you just gave."

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>>7216699
>>7216701
So I felt like expanding on the conditions of the training camps.

Lesbos has no shortage of willing slaves. There are already more than two slaves per freewoman among the population; the current ratio of slaves to freewomen is one that the government considers acceptable. Just the rate of slaves being produced within the country is sufficient to ensure that there won't be more masters than slaves.

As such, Lesbos can afford to be selective. Not only are the training camps designed to train prospective immigrant slaves in their new lives, but they're also designed to "weed out" unsuitable candidates. Lesbos considers the principle that slaves can never be freed to be a core tenet of its slave system, and a tough weeding out is meant to prevent the scenario that a Lesbian slave wants to be freed.

The application process typically takes 3-4 years. This time period is intentionally inflated to ensure the girl spends enough time in the training camp.

Lesbian recruitment agencies exist all around the world and accept applications. As soon as the application is filled out, the prospect is stripped and cuffed, then waits in a holding cell until the next flight to Lesbos. The application is submitted as she is processed into a camp.

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>>7223322
Alternatively, a girl may go to Lesbos herself and turn herself in at a facility directly. In this case, she is to strip before she can even hand in her application.

Either way, the first thing the camp does after confirming her will is fit her with her long-term collar and cuffs. There are the same collars and cuffs used by full slaves - unless she chooses to terminate her training, she will wear these for the rest of her life.

She is then taken to orientation, where she is instructed in how she is to behave during her training. She must anyone who is not her fellow trainee as "mistress". She must obey all orders and stand at attention whenever a mistress passes by. The rules are militaristic in nature. In addition, it is forbidden for a girl to orgasm during her training. Should a girl cum, she will be punished and her application delayed. The collars can detect orgasms.

Then, she is shown her room, which she shares with seven other girls. The room is designed to minimize privacy, and has no storage space - the girls are not allowed any possessions in the first place. It doesn't matter that much, as she will only spend 6 hours a day in it - the day's training doesn't end until midnight and it begins at 6 am, leaving the girls with less than 6 hours of sleep per night, a schedule designed to cause fatigue. There are no weekends or holidays, period. This is to ingrain in the slaves that enslavement is a full-time "job".

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>>7223324
The girls spend all their day in classes teaching them how to behave as slaves. The lessons are practical and the girls get to act out their proper behavior. There is also a lot of physical training - both to help shape the girls' bodies and to simply keep the girls exhausted.

There's almost no time for socialization. Meal breaks are only 15 minutes, leaving no time for fraternization, and the girls go to sleep as soon as they reach their rooms since they don't have any time to waste.

Extra punishments include both corporal and solitary confinement. They are designed to stray just short of abusive, but the punishments for transgressions are harsh, as the girls must be trained to be totally obedient.

The length of the application process is variable. While the girls aren't informed, it's artificially inflated and the application process takes into account a girls' training progress. The average training for immigrants is four grueling years. Once a girl agrees to be a slave after her application is accepted, she is given a reprieve so that she can rest from the brutal conditions before being sold off. After that, it's all in the hands of her owner.

>>7223327
Those robots really should have grip pads on the fingertips if they're going to be used for this sort of thing.

Does anyone here know of a hentai in which women and men are at war - Two of the women agents are captured and used as sex slaves and it is so juice because they are so proud and fierce but they get humiliated and used while being helpless. It´s quite a long hentai too but for the life of me I cannot find it.

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Oh, yeah.
I wrote a thing, not porn, but it's slavefic and kinda funny.

Ended up posting it to LJ instead of a pastebin because that's where it's going long term anyways.

http://fmannerly.livejournal.com/8925.html

Have some Morgiana for the bother because best slavegirl.

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This is just hideously cute:

Hime-sama to Dorei-chan | The Princess and the Slave
https://exhentai.org/g/977674/59352cbdfd/

I hate all of you.

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The man in this picture.

I want to be him, and have his life, just for that chariot. I'd like take it to 7-11 and everything.

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>>7223219
>Are all girls treated as potential witches?
They generally need some reason for suspicion. Blanket screening would mean putting every young woman through an inherently traumatic test. And most witches accidentally out themselves shortly after their power emerges anyway.

For the daughters of gifted parents, their bloodline alone might be sufficient justification to administer a test.

>Are there places such as small villages where a girl can get away with being a free witch?
In a small tight-nit community it may happen. If her neighbors are willing to protect her, and she can keep enough control over her power to not accidentally burn down the village.

There would also be cases where a witch is able to dominate a small community for a time. Without enchanted protective items, peasants would be nearly helpless against an aggressive witch.

In either case, if would also last as long as they could keep word from getting out. If there are rumors of a free witch in a particular village, witch hunters will go there to investigate.

>Are young women with a high likelihood of becoming witches collared before the gift can even appear?
The enchanted slave collars could potentially be used on anyone. Which makes people very uncomfortable with the idea of their widespread use. So in most places it is illegal to use them on anyone who isn't known to be a witch.

>What other ways is a witch made to be humiliated?
Basically anything that emphasizes their subservience and helplessness. Often with a sexual aspect.

For instance, spanking (often with a paddle or other implement) is a popular form of punishment because of the humiliation factor. Even though it's easier to just inflict pain with the collar.

Some masters decorate their slaves with piercings and/or tattoos. Which is another means of driving home how powerless they really are. Despite all their magic, they don't even have a say over how their own bodies are altered.

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>>7223219
>Does society take measures to ensure that each master has willed an heir, just to be sure no witch can escape?
There isn't really a need. Most master attend to it out of self-interest. A slave witch can't directly attack her master, but she might try to trick him into getting himself killed if it would mean her freedom. Some may even intentionally select an heir they know their slave would hate. So that the witch has motivation to activity help protect her owner from any danger.

>Are witches typically allowed to socialize, with either free people or each other? To what extent, if so?
That would vary a lot depending on the girl's master. The slave of a traveling witch hunter might have few opportunities to speak to anyone but him. A witch owned by a noble or wealthy merchant would typically be able to make friends among the other slaves and servants of the household.

In some cases a witch's master might even be encouraged her to speak up at high society social events. To show off that even his personal slave is capable of intelligent discourse and witty repartee.

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>>7224597
Why?

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>>7213547
Dear god man have you read mine mind? This is all freakishly accurate to my fantasy except that I'm a slave owned by a prominent male in my community. But seriously the whole zombie beginning is exactly how I've imagined this for years. I still think "hey maybe trump will start the apocalypse and I'll be one of the lucky few left standing"

In my current daydream.
Fast forward to me 24 with 2 sons and an owner, both sons are his, who treats me well but still demands 100% obedience. I was sold to him after being discovered living in the mountains with a small community as a teenager. He has never shared me as he is extremely territorial but has forced me to please him while he's with another woman.
He would never harm me but since there's been a band of raiders killing and stealing lately he's been extra cautious and is considering moving us. He suspects his right hand man may be a spy and I have evidence of such but am afraid to say anything as I am just a slave so I plot and tell my eldest son, Gabriel who is now 5, to tell his father. Before Gabe is able to make it to his father he is killed by his second hand man with me as witness. I tell my master immediately but in doing so break the rules and enter his men only living space. Second hand man insists that I must be dealt with and offers to teach me a lesson.
This is where my imagination hasn't been able to decide what to do.
Heck dubs for master allows his right hand to punish me
Trips master punishes me
Anything else I'll let you guys decide

Sorry the ramble I've just never read anything so spot on to my imagination

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>>7224866
OH shit dubs.

I beg master "please listen your so-"
But he strikes me across the face before I can finish my sentence.
"Take her away make sure she learns not to interrupt again"
He tells his right hand man, Will, who grins widely and pulls me out of the room by my hair. He continues to drag me back to his residence where he throws me onto his kitchen table. I fight him off of me still furious at the crime he's committed but he chokes me until i pass out. When I come too I'm tied and gaged in a straining position. Suddenly I feel a sharp pain on my back and then again and again as Will wips me aggressively. He whispers in my ear "one day your master will be dead, you'll be mine, and there's nothing you can do about it"
I squirm and pull against the restraints but it's no use.

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>>7224877
Again with the dubs. I guess I'll continue

Will forces two fingers inside of me. It doesn't feel right like when master does it. It feels wrong and painful. I hold back tears and screams as he continues to explore inside of me with jos fingers.
"Now if you promise to behave I promise to make this punishment be over very quickly. Do you promise to behave?"
I nod my head unsure of what other option I have.
"Good girl now you have 10minutes to suck me off if I don't cum in less then that you won't be happy with what I have planned next."
Will undoes the gag on my mouth and present his cock in front of my face. It smells like he hasn't showered in a while and I hesitate a moment debating on if I'd rather see what else he has planned. Reluctantly I begin to Lick the tip of his dick."tick toc times a wasteing" will says arogantly. I take his whole dick in his mouth and begin sucking hard. I pretend I am trying to please master and start moving my tounge in a spiral down his penis with every thrust. After only a few minutes of this he grabs the back of my
head and Forces his cock deeper down my throat. He speeds up as I fight the urge to puke and then I feel as he swells and cums inside my mouth. I swallow like a good slave as he stands panting with his hand still gripping the hair on the back of my head. He bends down and begins to untie me as he whispers in my ear "one day you'll be mine and you'll have my children"
As I walk home I stop to puke behind a tree and cry for a second but stop and pull myself together. I've got to figure out a new way to warn my master. I've got to make sure my master knows his son has been killed and that Will is the one responsible. I have to please my master.

>>7223747

Can it be Sex Wars series by fernando? Its western art but it fits your description.

>>7223747

Japanese hentai or western cartoon?

>>7213202
A tribe where the only gender is futanari kidnaps me, and makes me serve as their personal fucktoy. All day and all night these futa come into my cell and flail me around, using my holes as they please.

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>>7218912
Oh shit! It's Mannerly! The moose has missed you.

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>>7225685
Yeah. It's been a while hasn't it?

I'm still writing too. I wonder where the other old writefags are?

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I didn't come up with an entire world but I keep getting horny to these concepts:

>1:
Slave girls are forced to work while constantly edging (or cumming because special drugs/magic/training draw(s) out the time.
The work is sweat-pumping and differs over a lot of tasks. While the girls work they are in a haze of sexual lust and can't focus on anything very much.
Masters that can train a slavegirl to work at maximum efficiency are treating them well but with iron discipline. they get food in from of nutrient shakes. The special food mix makes sweat smell neutral, for functioning as a beast of burden with boobs life is totally perfected.
Masters compete who can predict the training curve of their girls best, the perfect goal is to have them as flexible and enduring as possible.
Slave girls may be stored in tiny compartments or squeezed into crates together, hence the flexibility. The vibrator-harnesses are usually but not necessarily removed during transport.
The girls are never injured and the cruelest treatment is electroshocking.
There are masses and masses of slavegirls that work as green energy source. In machines you can see the tights and skin of sweating girls next to the metal bars that they are restrained on.

There are holidays which are basically a master (business owner) and his harem of slaves relaxing.

The only problem with this scenario is: Why the fuck don't they use the physically stronger men?
>I'm male and want to be top.
>2:
Slave girls are top-tier collector items. It's all about rich overlords having the cutest, most pretty girls and have them do tasks in their houses.
You would see a girl with a collar, chained to a sofa whose purpose in life is to be a cushion / love-slave for somebody, where as the sofa is designed to fit in her looks (fi. if she has black hair it has black cushions).
Slave girls are treated luxuriously! Dare anyone who scratches the priced possession.

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>>7225702
I know where at least one of the writerfags are, but they don't really write so much anymore.

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>>7216486
Hot. From?

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>>7216486
I like to imagine something even more extreme.

You mention just forgetting everything about your fellow slaves. What about forgetting everything since you became a slave?

I like to imagine that my memory is set to purge itself every night, erasing the memory of everything that has happened since I was cybernetically modified. I remember that I was made into a slave and I'm programmed to know how to be a slave, but every morning I wake up in an unfamiliar bed, experiencing my cybernetic body for the first time, with my last memory being the anesthesia they put me under in preparation for being cyberized.

Every single morning, I meet my master for the first time. He can choose what sort of impression he wants to make on me based on his mood of the day, and I have no choice but to accept his actions.

And not just that, but was a virgin when I was cyberized. This means that every time I have sex with him it's the first time I've ever experienced feeling so good, and the novelty never wears off. My master gets to feel like a sex god every time because I am totally blown away every time.

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>>7225748
That's a shame.

We should get the Kik group going again or something.
(Do people even use Kik anymore or is it all discord all the time?)

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>>7225778
That's horrifying and hot, and I don't think I've ever been so aroused.

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>>7225790
It's all Discord now senpai.

>>7225778
>Programming the brain

>Save all of the first-time orgasms until the records are one day of length

>Play

>>7225778
That's super hot. I love it. That said, what I was going for was having just enough of a sense of continuity to give credibility to the idea that you could be thrown out at any time - since you can't remember anything about your fellow slaves other than "they exist", you have no idea if they're the same ones you served alongside yesterday. A little difficult for that idea to sink in without that sense, I think.

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>>7225793
So discord group anyone?

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>>7225728
I fantasize about scenario 1 too.

We are fed a special drug that greatly enhances our physical capabilities, making us stronger and more resilient. Our bodies are resistant to disease and able to withstand an incredible amount of "abuse" without being damaged. Of course, that comes at the cost of our minds. The drugs makes us all so horny that we can barely think about anything but stimulation and trying to get off. They also severely damage our rational thinking capabilities.

The physical enhancements are like a healing factor. We undergo contortions that would break a normal person's legs or work an amount that would kill someone else without any ill effects. However, we still feel pain and exhaustion despite the fact that there is no lasting damage.

The mental aspect makes the "carrot-on-a-stick" approach very effective. I'm constantly craving orgasm, so it's a strong motivator. The vibrator harnesses are rigged to stimulate us as we obey orders, but it also knows how to prevent actual orgasm. We beasts of burden don't have the presence of mind to realize that we're being played. I'm constantly working for an orgasm that will never come; that dangles right in front of my face but that I can never reach.

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>>7225728
>>7225850
My physical capabilities are also meant to make storage easy. While a normal person would suffer from lethal blood clots if kept immobile in a confined space for too long, my enchanced body can be restrained in a small space without damage and for a long time without muscular degeneration.

As a result, when I'm not in use, I can be kept in a box 2 feet in each dimension, for a total volume of 8 cubic feet. This space allows for the most efficient storage of slaves. Our enhanced bodies can be stored in this small space for days without ill effect, though most girls suffer from painful cramping (it doesn't cause any damage to us).

Of course, care is taken to make sure we never go over the cusp of orgasm. A slave's hands are always bound in some way, such that she can never masturbate with her hands. It's not uncommon to look into a storage box and see a slave girl desperately struggling to get some stimulation to her clit, as her desire overwhelms her sense and she doesn't realize that she's chasing an impossible dream.

>>7225842
https://discord.gg/qJJHQ
I made one.

>>7225850
>The mental aspect makes the "carrot-on-a-stick" approach very effective. I'm constantly craving orgasm, so it's a strong motivator. The vibrator harnesses are rigged to stimulate us as we obey orders, but it also knows how to prevent actual orgasm. We beasts of burden don't have the presence of mind to realize that we're being played. I'm constantly working for an orgasm that will never come; that dangles right in front of my face but that I can never reach.
Fuck, alright, I'm sold. That level of mental/psychological control is fundamentally hot. Especially the part where it literally prevents the slave from realizing they're being controlled and manipulated, and instead they think their struggle to obey and please as best they can is out of their own free will. The fact that it's accomplished through arousal overload is just the cherry on top, where it would make a fine centerpiece in other fantasies.

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Permanent link to the Discord:
https://discord.gg/C2SrBY5

>>7213215
great manga

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>>7225814
Yeah, my fantasy is distinctly different from yours in that sense. For me it's not the sense of disposability that matters so much, but rather the total helplessness I experience.

I wake up every morning with the memory of my fear fresh in my mind. I wake up anxious to find out what my life is like now and what has happened in the missing time. I don't even know how long it's been, and if my master so chooses I may not find out for that day.

It's impossible for me to truly make plans or form a coherent strategy to cope with my situation. No matter what I do, when I go to sleep it won't matter anymore because I will wake up with no memory.

And the punishment could be severe. What if I were told that if I continued to misbehave, I would be put into a metal box and locked away? I'd know that I would wake up the next morning trapped inside a box with no memories and no idea what I'd done in an unfamiliar body. I would know the horror my future self would have to endure with no chance whatsoever to prepare. Being discarded would be a horrifying fate, as I'd wake up lying in a junkheap with a broken body, with no knowledge of what is going on.

So my master would have the ultimate slave - one that is totally helpless and can do nothing but try as hard as she can to please.

>>7224716
>In some cases a witch's master might even be encouraged her to speak up at high society social events. To show off that even his personal slave is capable of intelligent discourse and witty repartee.
Could such a witch be a courtesan of sorts, motivated to seek sexual release as an alternative to magical release?

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>>7226410
Most high class owners would think it crass to whore out their slave witch for money. But might sometimes lend her to a friend or political ally as a favor.

>>7226406
>Yeah, my fantasy is distinctly different from yours in that sense
Which is what makes it fun. I have a framework that I came up with and filled in a few details for, and then talked about how I imagine myself fitting into it.

Hearing how somebody else would like to fit into it makes me very happy, especially when they have different ideas on it. It gives me different perspectives and can help lead me to different ideas, which can help me find more things to like in my own fantasy. Or just give me an entirely new fantasy in the same context.

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I could write a short story or two from a slave owner's POV, but where should I post it once finished. Pastebin or some place else?

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>>7226871
Pastebin

Pastebin is always good.

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God I love this picture.

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Don't you love it when the older girls help break the new meat in?

>>7225778

I'd like imagining my self living long enough that humanity is able to flat out print designer living creatures. They can even copy and imprint memories in new brains. In this Future I'm a know writer and had copies form my self made, some for fun this is basically a new why of reproduction others people what a copy of me to work for them to help monitor and write simulations.

There is this version of me that works for a cabal of simulation space stations that focus on creating various sexual slave world scenarios. People play to enter them selves into these worlds, they insert themselves and take up the life style and roles presented to them of their choosing. Some take me momentary roles other takes on permeant roles. this can be done by simply inserting them selves in the world by slave auction or what ever or coping a new into the womb of a woman and birthing them into the world so they can get a full slave world experience from childhood to death.

I live on one of these world working as an under cover administrator taking the role of a female sex pet to a working man. I'd be force to wear nothing but a pet collar and he's use me for sex when he wakes up in the morning and when he comes up and before going to bed. When he goes to work and leave to home alone I pull out a hidden laptop start doing my day job of creating and writing scenarios for that part of the world I live in. I also physically remove undesirable elements like rule breakers or help defend the space station against pirates and terrorists.

If you are wounding what kind of terrorists would attack us, antisex freaks, there are some groups that don't like kids being in sexual simulation worlds and actively tries to break in and steal our children so they aren't what they would considered to be abused. but that to us would be normal.

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>>7228247
I like the world concept you described, where anyone can live in whatever sexual fantasy they want. Though, you didn't quite make clear whether people share worlds or if it's a different simulation per person.

The scenario you describe offers a bit too much control for my tastes. I would like a scenario where I, as a user, am able to program the parameters of the world I am to live in beforehand - but once I "lock it in", I lose control. Once the simulation has started, there's no way to abort it or go back and modify the terms.

A setting in which I imagine is that I'm a passenger on an interstellar spacecraft, put into suspended animation so that I can see the end of the journey, though it will take hundreds of years. Of course, this spacecraft offers its passengers with a simulation to occupy their consciousness in real-time while in suspended animation.

Each person has a separate simulation, and the company put in a "hardcore" option for those with strong fantasizes where they can lock themselves in for a set period of time. I could make myself a perfect slave world and "make it real" by forcing myself to live through it with no "out".

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>>7228247
>>7228293
Another possibility is that the simulation is shared between the passengers, with social rank being distributed based on the travel class of the passenger. The world would be set up as a sort of fantasy town with some of the surrounding area mapped out and convincing NPCs to fill out necessary roles.

First class and business class would be the freepeople. First class would have noticeable advantages such as a greater natural income (allowing them to sustain more slaves) as well as better accommodations. Business class would still live comfortably.

Economy class would be slaves. They are matched up based on a scan of the passenger's mind determining what their true fantasy is - some will be pets while those with more hardcore fantasies toil in the fields or mines.

The simulation would be equipped with "anonymizers" to make it harder for the passengers to recognize each other after reaching their destination.

Perhaps there could even be a twist - what if they arrived at the destination world only to find out their bodies have changed to those of the simulation and they will live out their real lives in these roles too? In this case the anonymizers wouldn't be needed.

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>>7224866
Here's what I wrote about my fantasy in the original post:

I am the property of the town's only tavern (which doubles as an inn). I was sold to it by my father (in order to cover his traveling expenses - he thought nothing of it and hasn't come back). As I am attractive and was able to immediately demonstrate my ability to learn, he bought me for a reasonable price and there I have remained since.

I am a serving girl as well as the entertainment. The tavern "employs" plenty of other girls from other residents (the pay, of course is delivered to the girls' masters); I am the only girl however who belongs to the tavern owner.

The tavern plays crossroads to all sorts of travel routes as well as being the town's main gathering place, so every evening I see the regulars (most of the men of the town) as well as the ocasional traveler. I am a bar maid - my job is to serve food and drinks. However, I am also the entertainment, and what I really do is get up on stage and put on a show.

I'm not very inhibited, however. This means, of course, that nearly every night I end up getting gangbanged by the customers. The tavern owner prefers for me to be used so he doesn't have to answer to some angry husband about one of the other girls (also, he keeps me on contraceptives), and he makes it clear that he doesn't want me injured. The regulars make sure to lead the charge on me every night, and I'm ready to take them.

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>>7228318
I, of course, enjoy the attention and the sex. There's not a night that goes by when I haven't sucked a dozen cocks and fucked a dozen more. It's my duty and I embrace it. I get up on stage, flaunt my body, get felt up by drunk men, and then gangbanged. The tavern also has plenty of "props" to do stuff like pic related.

The tavern advertises that it allows patrons to pay to take one of the girls (or more if they can afford it) back to a room (the girls' masters must sign off on this, and split the profit). Of course, very few men pay for me, as they usually get me for free. There's not a man in the town I haven't fucked.

This also means that I'm not well-liked by most of the town's wives, as I represent their husbands' flagrant unfaithfulness which they have no say in. I have only a few female friends and I rarely leave the tavern.

I don't actually have a room and usually sleep on the bar during the day when the tavern is closed, while my master sleeps in one of the rooms in the inn. He leashes me to it, though it's merely a formality - we both know I won't try to run. My lot at the tavern is far safer, and I know that it's only his presence that keeps the gangbangs from getting brutal.

Such is my life in a world where women have no protection.

Hey guys, I'm trying to remember a comic that I read long ago. It was about a newlywed couple who moved into a new neighborhood, but it turns out that the house they moved into was owned by their neighbors who were using it to lure people into a sex slave ring. They end up forcing the guy into feminization, and brainwashing the wife. Any clues?

>>7228293

>I like the world concept you described, where anyone can live in whatever sexual fantasy they want. Though, you didn't quite make clear whether people share worlds or if it's a different simulation per person.

Well it depends, in the future I see happening one can easily make a digital simulation. That could result in a different per user cheaply. when your building a physical places (Because some people just things digital sucks) things can get expensive. I doubt we'd ever reach a point in techonogy that very few people can make a world just for them selves.

>The scenario you describe offers a bit too much control for my tastes. I would like a scenario where I, as a user, am able to program the parameters of the world I am to live in beforehand - but once I "lock it in", I lose control. Once the simulation has started, there's no way to abort it or go back and modify the terms.

Well it would depend on the world and on the person's wants. Could have a world come and go from their expense as they please so the participants are always revolving though, to a closed system starting with a group of people who designed a world, they make babies and their children have to grow up under the societal rules they made as will their children's children.

1/2

>>7228424
The world I'd be administrating in (where females are the naked pets of men) would be somewhat in between. Everyone else but other administrators would "locked in". Only new females can come in. People who come in as adults just appear at a slave auction with papers provided for them. The people who want to be born into this world are made by an administrator injecting a brain memory containing biochip into the womb of a woman through her stomach. The after birth full conciseness should kicks in about age 3 or 4? Participants will have two active minds, The slave who only has access to her slave knowledge and the participant's mind who knows everything. The participant's mind is unable to speak or communicate unless allowed by an administrator. The slave and participant has equal control over the body with the slave completely unaware of the participant her mind firmly believing that the participant's actions are of her own free will. Once a slave is dead her mind in put in a new body as directed by her will and testament made before entering the world. As long as she keeps paying she can come back into the world.

2/2

>>7216633
>>7216634
>>7216652
Do women have to belong to these groups? Do women in the groups have to let themselves be bought/rented out? How much say do individual women have over their treatment by men? What treatment standards for all women do the groups insist on?

I like the secret society concept myself - for whatever reason these people are in a position to seize people they want for whetever reason and train and/or transform them.
Transformation can be by mundane means, or "supermundane" like better than real surgery and hormone work, or magic/nanotech.
It could be a few perverts with medical connections and a soundproof basement, an undercover cabal of semimagic muscle dickgirls, or whatever.

>>7228428
>Participants will have two active minds, The slave who only has access to her slave knowledge and the participant's mind who knows everything. The participant's mind is unable to speak or communicate unless allowed by an administrator. The slave and participant has equal control over the body with the slave completely unaware of the participant her mind firmly believing that the participant's actions are of her own free will.
I have reread this several times and still have no idea what you mean.

>>7213210
Sakamota san got a slave? Somehow I'm not surprised by this

This fantasy can fit in any world where female slavery is routine. It would be interesting in a witchcraft one like >>7218411 >>7219926 especially with the bit in >>7220122 about avoiding being enslaved by a stranger.

A slave girl and her master have a very close relationship. Although slaves have few rights, her master gives her a lot of freedom in their home. She gets her own things as if she were allowed property, he often lets her pick what to wear, out of what's acceptable for a slave of course, she can speak her mind, and maybe even has her own room. She's still his slave though. When he gives an order, she has to obey. When he needs sexual relief, she'd better provide it. She gets to say so if she doesn't like what he makes her do, but they both understand it's his decision. Although he dotes on her, she still gets punished like any slave when she does something wrong. She doesn't like it but accepts it and is grateful for how understanding he is.

They each genuinely see the other as a friend, but they both know she's still a slave and he's still her master.

How is that tattoo above pussy called? It's really popular in hentai for some reason

>>7228849
>Do women have to belong to these groups?

Technically no, these groups tend to be government founded so it would be like a city ordnance saying you have buy pet license. You can just don't do it and hope you don't get caught. The groups have a police force that acts like animal control that help any female who need it or catch feral females.

>Do women in the groups have to let themselves be bought/rented out?

It depends on the group. Children don't have a choice. For a example an owner has a daughter with his pet. He has the right to raise that girl as another pet making a family unit or give her to someone else or to a group. If a girl who is like 8, 10 or 12 and says she don't want to be a pet anymore unless she's being abused the groups can't do anything about her wishes. The best the girl can do is convince her owner/father to send her to her group.

Once owned by a group a female can have more freedom to choose how she wants to live her life. But females born and raise as pet tend to want go back to that life style because for them being own by a master is normal and wouldn't know what to do with themselves if not playing the role as a pet. Plus none pet female tend to be confined or isolated to a group owned compound.

>How much say do individual women have over their treatment by men?

It depends on how well informed a female is and her ability to do something about it. If she's being mistreated she can turn her owner in to her group for those abuses done on her. Females who live in a city men are held to the standers of his neighbors in how he treats her. A man out in the hicks tend to be held to his own standers on how he treats his pets.

>>7229269
>>7228849
>What treatment standards for all women do the groups insist on?

Main ones: Food, Bed, Healthcare. as long as your pet is well rested, fed and healthy you should be good even if the standard of these things ain't that high.

No Slave Labor: A female's role is to be a pet and companion. They can do work for their owner, Cooking cleaning, gardening. If a pet's owner owns a business she'll help out. A man can't take the pet he owns make her work for someone else and get paid for her labor

No sexual or Reproduction Abuse: An owner is allowed to publically pet and stroke his pet, he can rube and squeeze her butt cheek, stroke her back, scratch her head and rube her breasts and nipples. This is seen as part of normal affection an owner should give to their pet. He can't publically play with her anus and vagina because this becomes sex. There are rules with how an owner can have sex with their pets. Sex is only allowed for the reproduction and who can reproduce is up to the groups discretions. People who break this rule can be fine and arrested for reproduction abuse of their pets. Because of this owners having sex with this pets is looked down upon. Plus the act of sex can easily turn abusive toward a pet if left unchecked. A pet can't legally consent to having even if they are okay with their owners having sex with them and a pet can turn their owner in for sexually abusing them and they would get in trouble in caught having sex with a pet.

>>7229269
>You can just don't do it and hope you don't get caught.
So women who don't join them will be forced in if caught? Are there places without such groups, where women don't run that risk?

How long are women rented out/sold for? Do they pick? Is it decided by the group?

>>7229274
What's the limit to the work a man can expect from his pet? Can he punish her if she's disobedient?

>>7229219
It's like a right brain, left brain thing, The right and right sides of you brain are actually two different people. Only one can talk and communicate with the out side world. if the two sides become disconnected it causes a split brain. The two sides doing different things with out the other knowing about it.

A participant can create a slave persona as it's own separate mind who would act as they would want to act but has no idea that they are playing a role. Think of it as mind control on your own body with your real mind and thoughts hidden in the subconscious pushing her actions. Like the slave walks in on two people having sex and hide her self. The participant's mind may push her to start touching her self.

>>7229318
I'd find it hotter without the split, where the participant is the slave. But then there would need to be some other way to keep her 'in character'. Maybe a trick, so she believes this is all real on some unknown planet.

>>7215207
Ungrateful kid. They already got two!

>>7229317
>So women who don't join them will be forced in if caught?

Depends on what you mean by force. When a group give a female to man part of that is that he has to register her with him. A good owner registers their females with a group, Like he gets a hold of a pet when she's a little girl he has to sign her up to a group for her so both he and her has extra support.

Once a female is register they are under their protection, But she could spend her whole life not knowing the group she is registered too.

>Are there places without such groups, where women don't run that risk?

Yeah, but it's more risky for women not have them in those places. Countries that have groups as part of their government is equal to the democratic countries in our world. Well the countries that don't have them is equal to a dictatorship can use woman as slave labor and straight up baby making machines.

There are also small communities where men and women are treated the same but those people are considered weirdos.

How long are women rented out/sold for?

If they are bought it's for life, if their owner dies and no one claims her then she is sent back to the group. Renting is for the purposes of breeding. Where she basically moves in with a man and stays with him until she's pregnant. If he likes her then he might decide to buy her and keep the child.

>Do they pick? Is it decided by the group?

Most pets are chosen by men, But when a group lets a man choose they a vetted. Men can sell their pets to anyone but if the pet gets register the new owner get vetted as well and if the new owner is black listed the pet is taken away.

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>>7229274
>There are rules with how an owner can have sex with their pets. Sex is only allowed for the reproduction and who can reproduce is up to the groups discretions. People who break this rule can be fine and arrested for reproduction abuse of their pets. Because of this owners having sex with this pets is looked down upon.
So, what if she's on birth control?
It does kinda loose the fun of having a pet girl if she can't play with your bone and all.

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>>7228320
I have a similar thing to that, my one was that I was born to one of the tavern whores, who gives me to the innkeeper as there's no way she'd be able to afford my upkeep, and although the innkeeper is affectionate there's a strict Master/servant relationship.

At first I'm only a barmaid serving food, and drinks, eventually I get old enough to be sold off to patrons for an evening.

Like you, one of the patron's wives eventually takes issue, and kidnaps me, whilst I'm working one night, and holds me prisoner in secret. The husband doesn't know, which means I'm completely at my captor's mercy, which is very little as She's seething with envy.
After a short while of being chained, caged, and beaten, She decides to relent, maybe out of sympathy, maybe just because She can't afford to feed me anymore, I never find out, but as I can't be seen in public in the town anymore without risking her getting indicted, so She sells me to some travelling merchants who are passing through. So after the whole ordeal I end up being forced to pull the goods carriage in rotation with the other slaves being trafficked, with my only possession being the original collar that Daddy put on me, back when I was a bar maid.

>>7228320
>their husbands' flagrant unfaithfulness which they have no say in

Why don't they just return the gesture?

>>7229512
>It does kinda loose the fun of having a pet girl if she can't play with your bone and all.

I look at it as a type of denial, have a nice waiting pussy front of her, but to take it is considered wrong and you'd always feel bad afterwords.

Anyway owners and pets do have sex all the time with out breeding permit. That is a thing that just can't be stopped. But there is a don't ask don't tell policy. As long as owner and pet don't tell anybody they are having sex, they won't get asked if they are having sex. If a pet goes into the vet and looks at her pussy and finds semen or that she's not a virgin due to confidentiality he wouldn't report anything unless the pet flat out tell him my owner is abusing me sexually or the pet getting sexed is under breeding age witch legally before her first confirmed period or heat so breeding age can range a little.

It is encouraged to let different pets from different owners to gather in Group owned centers or pet parks. So a pet would have plenty of chance to report abuse. If a pet that goes regally disappears for weeks or months from these places the authorities may make a surprise inspection.

One must be cautious when sexing up their pet. She will have to want it or be loyal enough to you as to not tell on you, you just can't rape her as she fights back. If you do rape her better make sure she's isolated or so scare of you so she doesn't tell.

An owner can groom and train his pets. A good pet makes her owner happy. If he masturbates in front of her he could easily gets her to join and start playing with his cock. The owner could encouraged and praise his pet when she masturbates herself when a lone stick a finger in her puss and see how she reacts. Could get her wound up and horny until she summits, An owner can play with his pet's nipples as much as he wants.

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>>7229758
>So, what if she's on birth control?

Birth control can't be legally sold because that would encouraged sex between owner and pet. Things birth control pills can be sold over the counter but it has to be labeled as something different like as a type of aspirin, Condoms are treated the same as bongs and pipes.

Owners are encouraged to buy sex toys for their pets to make it easier for pets to masturbate themselves. Although toys will only be used in private or some times in front of her owner. Pets do finger themselves in public. Girls with a nice wet pussy are considered heathy so they like showing it off.

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>>7229761
So what? Just call them anti-dysmenorrhea treatments and it's okay?

(Seriously though, hormonal contraception is used for a lot of things, and is kinda vital for women's health, and for nudists, not getting menstrual blood on everything.)

Otherwise, I'm okay with that. I'd like a cute little pet like that.

>>7229318
So let me rephrase that to see if I understand: The participants can essentially program themselves a new personality through which to experience the simulation. It is still one person with one consciousness, but you can modify your own memories and manner of thought without destroying your original personality.

Is that about right?

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>>7229587
In the setting I imagine, a "wife" would not have the authority to do something like kidnapping. Women have no power or influence of their own and can only act by attempting to influence their owners. A more pliable owner may end up with his slave manipulating him without him knowing it, but at best her control is indirect.

A traveling merchant would not deal with a female unless she is acting as an agent of her owner.

I do like the idea of pulling the goods carriage though.

>>7229754
Because they are not equal. Women in this world do not have any bargaining power; that's the fundamental basis of the setting. They're entirely reliant on the goodwill of their master to subsist.

Men cheat openly because there is no penalty for doing so. It's legal and socially acceptable and there are no consequences.

Meanwhile, women are completely reliant on their owners for subsistence. If a woman were even to behave in a surly manner, she could end up abandoned in the wasteland to die of exposure or worse. A woman who cheated would be taking upon herself a grave risk. In addition, the partner she cheated with might sell her out easily, as she is the one who would suffer if their misdeeds were to come to light.

Honestly I have to wonder if you even read the setting. Your question is kind of asinine. I hate to be an ass but I kind of have to be here.

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So how do you guys feel about ponygirls?

Personally I love the idea of being treated like a beast of burden like that. To spend most of my time laboring, perhaps with no free time after heavy physical exertion, and in bondage at all times. Perhaps with the special drugs mentioned here >>7225728

Honestly the bondage is a big part of why I like it. Usually bondage is temporary but a ponygirl is bound all the time, with little respite.

>>7229821
I guess I haven't thought of that, if an owner and pets isn't suppose to have children with out permission getting ride of periods makes senses.

>>7228318
>>7228320
>>7229587
I really like the barmaid-cum-whore idea, especially both being sold into slavery and being born to a whore.

>>7229865
In my fantasy, slaves become slaves due to financial reasons for stability than because of their sex, during winters anybody that will potentially be able to provide some food and shelter is a viable owner, so during the colder months, and crop shortages a lot of normally free people will enter temporary contracts, some of which go on to be long-lasting even after the shortage is over. Because of this the slave is more desperate to serve their owner, knowing that they're the ones benefiting from it, and that there are other people out on the streets who would be eager to replace them.
As for the merchants they are hardly going to turn down the a potential profit.

>>7229870
I cross between the idea of being ridden like in your pic, then when we get to the destination I have to get on all fours and get walked around on a leash, unless the place has a proper cage, or coat rail to be chained to whilst Master carries out his business.

Or pulling a rickshaw with my arms bound to the handles, and the only breaks I get is being allowed to kneel on the floor, until I get put into one of the cages in the carriage and am replaced by one of the other ponygirls, although we're slower than actual horses, many prefer ponygirls as they can work round the clock like that, and are easier to store.

Also I agree with you on the bondage, being leashed/reined up/harnessed is a big part of the appeal to me.

>>7230193
Yeah, I just have no idea where to really go with that, I have a vague idea what the auctioneers will be like, including being paraded around the new town with a stating, and full sale (much higher but for people who want to buy them on the spot) price, sale date, and virgin/used written on me but nowhere to go from that.

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>>7223325
You can't end here. What about the sexual side of things? What does a day of camp involve? They virgins at the end or wizards sleeves?

Also what's Lesbos like economically? Is this a world of basic income? Are all jobs automated and now art is the only form of employment?

>>7225859
Change the invite lifetime to forever. It seems to have expired

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>>7229870
They're pretty cool, but I've got to say that

>Personally I love the idea of being treated like a beast of burden like that. To spend most of my time laboring, perhaps with no free time after heavy physical exertion

This concept does do literally nothing for me. Even if it's a fairly logical use for slaves in almost any setting because that kind of work is almost always necessary, I'm still a pervert that's here for the erotic aspects more than anything else. And the bondage aspects aren't good enough to make the whole idea even remotely erotic to me.

I'd still be cool with the idea of being one part-time and/or for show purposes, though.

>>7230311
Yeah, the main appeal would be whoever is driving the carriage/holding the reins and whip behind you, and how you interact with them, that and the bondage gear you'd inevitably be wearing

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>>7229870
>So how do you guys feel about ponygirls?
I like the idea of owning a couple ponygirls. They would be more like pets than true beasts of burden. Used for the joy of using them rather than practical utility. Like how owning horses in the modern world is mostly just a hobby.

I would certainly enjoy riding in a ponygirl powered vehicle. Watching them move, and motivating them with liberal use of a crop or buggy whip. But another big part of the appeal would be caring for them, while their bound arms make them unable to do anything for themselves. Feeding them treats out of my hand. Washing them with a hose. Even just brushing their hair.

>>7230437
>Feeding them treats out of my hand
Second best way to eat, after having to lap it up whilst Master/Mistress rest their feet in your dinner.

Also where would your ponygirls sleep, and what would they be given overnight?

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>>7230306
Here's a new one:
https://discord.gg/bEGyZ4y

>>7230311
For me it's all about the lifestyle and worldbuilding. For me slavery that begins and ends with sex just isn't interesting.

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>>7230487
I'd want them to get proper rest. So bedtime would be their break from the bondage and tail butt plugs. I'd strip off all their gear, and leave them naked together in a cage over night. It would be roomy enough for them to stretch out horizontally, and crawl around a bit if they want. But too short to stand up in. They only get to stand upright as ponygirls.

Part of the cage floor would be padded for sleeping on. The padding wouldn't be much wider than the two of them laying side by side, and the temperature would be kept just slightly too low for comfort. So they would be encouraged to cuddle together.

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>>7229917
Honestly, if they're not supposed to have children without permission, it'd be a matter of course to just hand out birth control like candy.

Otherwise, you're going to be dealing with a lot of accidents.

>>7229865
The question was largely rhetorical. I just loathe misogynistic double standards.

>>7221802

Any more of her or the name of the artist? I love this character design.

My vision of a slave world is... actually pretty simple. A small portion of the population is born masters, the rest are born slaves, and they are naturally subservient to an existing, nearby master. The master knows every slave they are in control of, and can take and return as much or as little of of any slave's control over their body and mind as they want, at any time. The slaves can be as free-willed as they want, but their master can strip their control of their own body from them until they submit.

Not really clear on ALL the details, but whatever. It's kind of half-baked

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>>7230193
I never mentioned being born to a whore. Technically it would work just as well with only a minor change to the story about how I came into the tavern's possession. It wouldn't make sense for me to be both born to a whore but in the possession of my father.

>barmaid-cum-whore
I see what you did there...

A core part of that fantasy is that I'm so isolated from my peers that I really have nothing but my role as a slave. The wives hate me because they see me as a slut (even if I don't have a choice). The only thing that I really have in that life is to serve and to get fucked.

And that I have to do with all my might, knowing that the consequence for uselessness would be to lose what little I have - and gangbangs are what staves off loneliness and boredom.

>>7231238
And I absolutely love double standards. It's one of the most appealing things about slavery for me; the fact that the small factors that determine whether you're a slave or not can change your life so drastically.

You might be in the wrong thread if those are your feelings. I don't see how your rhetorical question made any sense when the very concept of the world inherently answered it.

It seems to me like you're just looking for attention because you saw something you didn't like. You might consider sharing some of your own work rather than asking asinine rhetorical questions.

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>>7231287
So this is something I wrote in the globalized fetish threads more than a year ago.

All women have a corresponding "soul gem". This gem allows a male holder to dominate the one to whom the soul gem is "linked" to.
Women cannot "hold" the gems of other women, nor can women count as the holders of their own gems. While they are physically able to touch and carry their own and each others' gems, they don't count as "holders". A woman must have a holder, because she can only operate autonomously for 24 hours without one. After that period, the woman will become unable to operate her own body, and will fall to the ground as if paralyzed. She remains conscious, but cannot move until a man takes her gem and will die if left unattended.
Women are born with a gem, and can function normally until they come of age. At that point, the gem begins to glow and she has 24 hours to find a holder. If a gem is destroyed, a woman is paralyzed forever - a terrible fate for anyone to face.
The holder gains dominion over the girl. There is no distance limitation between \gem and girl, but the holder must actually be carrying the gem to use it - special holsters are designed for men for this purpose. A woman can be compelled to perform actions at the holder's command. She may not want to obey, but will be unable to resist. No verbal command is needed, only the intent of the holder and his focused will. No effort is needed, but a gem can't be "accidentally" used - it requires intent.

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>>7231415
However, a woman's thoughts are her own. They can't be modified. A woman can think for herself and have her own beliefs = for whatever that's worth.
When it comes to commands, a lot can be done. Specific commands such as "clean the dishes" force the girl to execute the task immediately to the best of her ability. Standing commands can be given that will apply until rescinded, such "muting" a girl. A gemholder can even delay a command, such as "clean the dishes at 4 pm". These can even be combined - "clean the dishes every day at 4 pm". They simply cannot be disobeyed. If an impossible command is given, the girl will attempt to execute it to the best of her ability - this can lead to pathetic sights such as a girl unsuccessfully trying to climb a building wall because her master wanted to humiliate her.
The gemholder can use the gem to basically read the woman's mind. While holding the gem, he can sense the woman's thoughts and emotions, and with intent, he can actually read her memories. It's impossible to do this without alerting the woman - she can sense when he's using the gem, and reading memories requires one to basically force the girl to recall them. This also means the man can't read memories the girl has forgotten, and of course, he can't force her to think certain things or rewrite her memories. However, it's basically impossible for the girl to hide anything from her gemholder, and privacy is nonexistent for women.

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>>7231417
Also, the man can tap into any of a woman's senses - he can see what she sees, hear what she hears. A gemholder can't modify a girl's senses freely, but the gem allows its holder to perform certain functions. For example, a holder can blind a girl (permanently is not possible, indefinitely is), but can't make all trees look like people to her. She can also be deafened. A man can also punish his girl by inflicting pain through the gem. This also allows for arousal control - a woman can be made to feel constantly horny, but a simple "do not orgasm" command can leave her in misery.
Whenever a man uses a gem, the girl can tell what he's doing. It's impossible for him to be sneaky about this - the gem is an extension of herself, and she can feel it being manipulated just as if you grabbed her arm and pulled it around. However, she has no actual agency. She can sense his actions and any intent he holds, but cannot actually do anything about it.
As a result of the sudden change in the nature of femininity, women are left completely powerless. They're completely at the mercy of men, with absolutely no recourse against them except the protection of other men.
The most obvious result is that worldwide, women lose all rights. They cannot hold positions of power, and they cannot vote or hold office anywhere. Harming a woman becomes "property damage".

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>>7231421
At the moment of the change, the gem appeared in the hands of their women. All women and men instinctively knew what it was and what it meant.
The lucky women already had a man that they trusted. They handed over their gem, and while their relationship was naturally one-sided, with the man holding absolute power, a sort of bond formed between them. The intimacy of knowing your partner's thoughts created a trust between the two, and these women had to trust in the men that held their reins. While the relationship dynamic changed, love of a different form was born, and these women found happiness in submission.
Other women didn't have the luxury of an easily available master. Realizing what the gems in their palms meant, they realized they had to seek out a master or starve to death... or worse. They had to find the most trustworthy master in 24 hours. Some gave their gems to their friends, others didn't have a friend available and as such had to entrust themselves to the nearest available stranger. The consequences varied.

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>>7231425
However, they didn't have it as bad as those who entered a state of denial. Women who had staked their identities on not giving in to men, such as feminists and single businesswomen, were generally in this category. Refusing to accept the reality of their situation, these women let 24 hours pass and then found themselves unable to move, ripe for the taking. The less desirable ones were disposed of. The attractive ones were picked up and shown no mercy.
The women who had to find some random man at least had some element of choice. They sometimes led lives as good as those who already had a lover, and instead fell in love within their new roles. However, if one misjudged her master-to-be, she could end up doing menial labor or undergoing countless agonies. However, the women who tried to deny their situation rarely found happiness. With absolutely no bargaining power, life was rarely happy for these women.
Naturally, over time, people forgot that it was possible for women to not be under the command of a man, and the idea of "free women" was lost to history.

>>7230437
>>7230487
I was going to post one of my old ponygirl fantasy scenarios, but this thread is starting to get cluttered by this type of post so I'm just going to start putting these in a Pastebin.

http://pastebin.com/sN1DQgav

And I think I already made clear how I feel about bondage. I just love the concept of such long-term bondage.

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>>7230302
I ended it there because it looked like I wasn't getting too much interest. I'd be happy to expand though.

>what's Lesbos like economically? Is this a world of basic income? Are all jobs automated and now art is the only form of employment?

Honestly I hadn't thought this far into it. This fantasy is more of an idealism fantasy rather than rough and gritty, so...

This is a utopian post-scarcity society. However, society quickly discovered that this was a less-than-ideal world to live in. People want to have a purpose. They want something to live for.

The slavery system is a semi-answer to this, meant to keep the population at work.

Masters may find employment in managerial positions. They may manage the operation of production systems or manage the operation of customer service establishments (though the "ground floor" personnel are typically slaves). Also, only masters may be involved in political positions. Regardless, all masters get a basic income. This is dependent on the number of slaves a master has, which is determined by her job performance (unemployed masters or artist masters are capped at 2 slaves).

The government provides slave job opportunities. Masters have the choice of sending their slaves to do these jobs. Many could be automated, but aren't purely in order to create jobs.

Sorry if this doesn't make sense. I haven't given this subject enough consideration.

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>>7230302
>What about the sexual side of things?
>They virgins at the end or wizards sleeves?
Virginity has no meaning in Lesbos. However, the slaves are trained in sexual acts that would normally involve a penis, as strapons are very commonly used.

Training is designed to avoid wearing down the slave's body permanently. She needs to remain enjoyable for her master, of course. She's not going to be a virgin for sure, but she's also not going to be a wizard's sleeve unless she was one before training.

About strapons - there is a strong culture of masters using them to fuck their slaves. Lesbos has extremely advanced strapons that can even deliver tactile feedback to the wearer and even spurt fake cum. It is illegal for a slave to wear a strapon, and they're in fact coded such that if the wearer is collared, they will not work (they can go flaccid).

Culturally in Lesbos, penetration is performed by a master to a slave. Those who want to be penetrated end up as slaves. Many masters are actually virgins in the sense that they've never
played the "female role" in sex.

Gonna expand on the camp routine later.

>>7219926
I imagine you'd get off pretty hard to the damane in wheel of time.

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>>7231487
>>7231483
Thanks man, can't wait for the camp explanation


This is a really interesting world and I think the whole "lack of employment being boring" makes more sense that girls would want to go into slave life as it's something to do

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My fantasies involve either being the master over a female slave (weather I'm male or female) or being a female slave with a female master.

The world is a D&D like setting, sword and sorcery where magic exists but only a relatively small percentage of the population (roughly 10%) is skilled enough to use magic at all, and even less (roughly one in 5 of those who can use magic) are talented enough to progress beyond the basics.

The society is something of a mageocracy, laws are established and run by a magical congress made up of various sorts of mages who get their positions by a mixture of politics and merit in terms of magical power for limited terms, after gaining recognition at a magical university and demonstrating certain minimum power and skill levels, and paying a certain amount of money to apply for potential to join the legislature for a time. The legislature votes on a leader among them to serve as high chancellor, and can also remove the high chancellor (although with more difficulty than choosing one) who deals with more day-to-day and emergency issues of running the government as a whole. Higher local government positions also require one to be a university recognized magic user. The country was once one run by a monarchy with sorcery in their blood who promoted magical development and developed a powerful magical education system that set them above nearby countries in terms of military power, but who were wiped out by an internal succession struggle, leaving the country lawless for a short time until the lead magical university stepped in and established the current government, due to their connections to both military and political power in the previous setup.

>>7231860
>My fantasies involve either being the master over a female slave (weather I'm male or female) or being a female slave with a female master.
How can your own sex vary in your sexual fantasies?

>>7231860
The society has made slavery legal, partially because it was before even the previous country was established, and partially because it is in a key location along a trade route between countries that trade in slaves. It has some rules as to who can be enslaved and how, and to what degree, and certain 'classes' of slaves have a degree of rights, such as temporary small debt-holder slaves and people temporarily enslaved for certain sorts of minor crimes (but how minor a crime counts as somewhat depends upon who it was done to, and is up to judges and stuff), who have more rights and protections, compared to permanent slaves, who have little to no rights depending on the type there, and who usually have even their children born into slavery. Some types of slaves can be freed at the will of their master, including those born into slavery who were not enslaved for crimes they did themselves, or debt holder slaves whose masters pay off the remainder of their debts after they serve at least half their sentence. Prisoners of war can also be enslaved in some conditions, depending on the nature of the prisoner and the relations with the country involved.

Slaves can't be higher level magic users though, it isn't quite illegal for a slave to be such, so much as that it is expected for born slaves who achieve certain magic levels to be freed for security and public safety reasons unless they show significant loyalty to their master and care for the law, and high level magic users who would otherwise be enslaved are usually given sentences of imprisonment instead, because it is harder to control a magic user. The prisons involved are designed to hold magic users, and filled with all sorts of powerful wards and suppression methods, forcing prisoners to wear special gear that interferes with their magic using attempts. This is when the law doesn't cause them to be executed outright, or they aren't killed when trying to take them in.

>>7231864
I was exposed to Ranma 1/2 and similar stuff pretty early on. I never found taking different shapes and genders in my dreams and fantasies that weird.

>>7231415
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>>7231421
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>>7231427
Pretty neat. Not entirely sure I like the whole gem concept but that's otherwise fairly similar to what I envisioned.

>>7231872
While most birth slaves and non-dangerous lesser criminal or debt slaves are merely trained into slavery, many more difficult slaves are fitted with magical slave collars that involve various magics to control the slave.

The most common of these collars involves a variation on the 'charm person' magical effect, causing the slave to regard their master in a positive way, and a minor illusion to give the collar a 'safe' blue color, when the collar's actual color is red, while the magic is successfully operating on the slave, the magic also improves the slave's disposition towards the law slightly, but priorities the master over the law, and the lawfulness enchantment isn't as well designed. The collar doesn't force the slave to follow the master's orders, it just allows the master a visual cue if the slave turns hostile, and reduces the slave's ability to easily turn hostile. Harsh, dangerous or violent treatment can cause the slave to break free of the charm effect, but it is immediately visible when they do so due to the color change of the collar, and re-setting the collar until the charm works again can help pacify them after physically subduing them, at least in regards to their master. Some collars used on slightly more violent criminals allow them to have multiple backup masters who hold special keys which alert those masters to individual loss of loyalty, but the slave is under multiple different charms and has to resist each individually, as well as separate magics to reduce violent tendencies, at least if such can be afforded and the slave is valuable enough to justify such.

>>7231882
More advanced slave collar effects, such as outright domination are rare, due to the more powerful magical reagents and power sources needed to create such advanced magic items, and the skill and power needed from the creators as well, making such items very expensive, and usually not worth the cost of the slave. They are usually reserved for things like slaves with innate magical abilities of certain sorts or monstrous ones that have abilities that make them very valuable, or high end political prisoners.

Non-magical regular citizens are mostly free people, although their rights and protections are somewhat weak, especially when up against a magic user, they still do have some rights and such, even if magic users are generally considered their superiors in the eyes of the law. This is partially because it is possible, at least in theory, for anyone to become a magic user with enough dedication and training, and not everyone with the potential gets that training, even if the odds of them making it very far are low if they didn't show potential and get recruited early.

>>7231887
Slaves are typically purchased or granted from the government, or purchased from registered traders or breeders, or rarely re-sold or traded from other owners (although most leave that up to slave traders to re-sell for them after selling the slave back to the traders, since it's quicker and easier). Government sourced slaves are usually debt holders or criminals, or in some cases the children of such that were never sold and whose contracts remained held by the government.

When I say the children of slaves, I really mean children whose mothers were permanent slaves, the legality of the father's status doesn't matter, partially because magical paternity tests, while possible, are difficult and expensive, compared to just seeing how the child is born.

Slaves are generally expected to wear some form of collar, and ones with indications of some sort of who their master is are popular, although not required. Slaves who have control-collars aren't legally allowed to have them removed during their enslavement, and so such collars are designed to be easily washed when worn and not cause chafing or anything like that.

>>7231894
Temporary slaves are usually treated harshly in terms of being made to do labor, often in a degrading form, but kept healthy and fed enough and sheltered, and not physically abused to the point of being crippled or heavily scarred, nor scarred to the face (for legal reasons mostly), and can't legally be raped. They can be punished physically in order to try to force compliance with labor demands or punish further minor misdeeds or disobedience or failures that don't extend to the level of needing to have their sentence increased and the legal complications involved.

Permanent slaves, with some exceptions (especially those involving high-ranked individuals from other countries who are partially political prisoners, or those who are certain levels of magic users prior to being enslaved and used to be free but didn't commit the most serious of crimes) are usually without any rights, at least in regards to their master, they have some protections against those who are not their master and don't have their master's explicit permission. These sorts of slaves can be raped by their masters, killed, sacrificed in magical rituals, abused, tortured, mutilated, and all sorts of other things that would normally be illegal except when done to your own slave. The purchase of slaves of this class for the sake of magical sacrifices is actually relatively common, and some are bred and trained by slave traders specifically for this purpose, often taking special care to ensure the slaves have conditions that make them suitable sacrifices, such as retaining their virginity in a mystical sense, or being born on significant mystical dates (forcing and/or delaying childbirth through non-magical means to a small degree and trying to time pregnancies to occur at around the right time to end at the correct times). This isn't the most common sort of slave though, even among permanent slaves, ones intended for things like sex and simple labor or housework are more common.

>>7231483
>>7231487
I'm interested as well. I think I saw this a while ago- nice to see it again. There's very little yuri on /d/. You're doing God's work.

>>7231904
Because the society emphasizes magical power over physical power, commoners are allowed to be surprisingly well armed, and combined with lots of magic users of relatively high level, means the production of magic items is higher than most, making it a country that produces or equips a lot of adventurers, and often sponsors them as well. Some types of slaves are also trained as more physical sorts of bodyguards as well.

The emphasis of magical power over physical power also means that women have more rights overall in this country, at least free women, than in many other countries, and due to practices originally related to determining the status of birth slaves being linked to the mother rather than the father, other aspects of lineage and inheritance have shifted in the country for practical reasons to follow maternal lines, including family names and head of family status. It's not a matriarchy though, outside of inheritance rules and how family names are usually passed down. It is, however, a society where cheating is relatively common, and marriage laws are somewhat vague, which is part of why inheritance and families are tracked by who the mother is so much, at least for legal and most cultural purposes.

Poly-amorous relationships are also legal and occasionally seen, including same-sex ones or mixes of multiple males and females, and can be quite complicated in terms of orders of inheritance and legal dominance in the relationship, although they always count as one unit legally speaking in terms of mixed ownership of shared stuff, some personal belongings can exist within a marriage that aren't jointly owned as well. That is only for legal marriage though, religious marriages are more complicated and depend on the religions and gods involved, and what clerics ordain them.

>>7231916
An uncommon punishment for major thefts involves removal of a hand, arm, or fingers, exactly what is removed and how much tends to depend on the judge and district, and this is typically on top of temporary or permanent enslavement. This is done even though it decreases the value of the slave and their labor potential partially because few buy major criminal slaves anyway, since they are often hard to control and low value, and in some cases, loss of fingers and limbs by thief types makes them easier to identify upon escape if they do escape, and easier to control. Regenerative magic exists but is very rare and expensive due to how much talent and power it takes, so crippled criminals usually can't hide their crimes just by stealing enough to get healed this way, and losing use of your primary hand can make things like picking locks more difficult, making it harder to escape or get off well-locked slave collars and stuff. Even most nobles or minor wealthy merchants and middling range land-owners can't earn enough in their lifetimes to afford magical regeneration, or convince one with the skills to do it to put them on their lists even if they can afford it within a reasonable time-frame, due to the waiting lists.

>>7231938
Despite the existence of bred slaves born into their positions, a significant number of slaves are actually temporary debt slaves, which are used for labor and work purposes. These are common partially because of how cheap they are, and how easy it is to get loans and default on them, and the fact that some poor people deliberately do so to afford certain things, like alchemical (cheaper than magical) treatments for sick family members (most loans a commoner can get won't be big enough to cover the cost of a surefire magical cure disease spell). Loans secured by slavery clauses are easier to get and more common than ones based on other forms of collateral. Gambling debts is also a way this happens, as gambling is legal, although the loans offered are typically smaller to known gamblers and more likely to be defaulted on, as it is hard to get enough value out of most gamblers. The amount you can get from a slavery based loan is often based on your current employment and known skills.

It is possible to shorten lengths of temporary enslavement contracts by 'opening' them up, including willingly adding forced sex to the things the master is allowed to do to you, although this only is allowed for slaves that are determined to be free of disease and good looking enough to make their value as a temporary sex slave higher than their value otherwise. This can be done if their sex-slave value is higher than their value otherwise, even if the master doesn't actually end up using them for sex.

>>7231949
It's notable that while maters can't use them for sex directly, temporary slaves aren't unable to be used for sexual purposes, while the master can't touch their genitals, or touch the master's genitals to the slave, or touch the nipples, the slave is not legally allowed privacy from the master, and the master can force them do do things like strip shows for the master alone (the master can't show it to others though for temporary slaves of this sort, except family members), and the master can still touch the rest of the boob, and other areas of the body away from the genitals, including the thighs and such, so long as it doesn't contact the master's genitals, so masters can still find ways to get some more sensitive slaves off and masturbate to the slaves. This isn't done very often because it can earn a bad reputation, as, while legal, it isn't the purpose such slaves are meant for, and it is seen as 'cheap' in not purchasing a proper sex slave.

Temporary slaves can also consent to sex, and proving they didn't in the case of rapes can be difficult, especially since truth compelling magics built into witness stands at courts aren't super reliable, especially not on those with the mental strength to be mages, and when most slave-owners are at least minor mages due to the way wealth is distributed in the country, and even non-mages can resist and lie on the stand, so claiming rape under a truth compulsion isn't considered perfectly reliable if the accused can also claim to not have raped them on the stand. It's more reliable than real world stuff, because lying _is_ harder under those compulsions, but those likely to do it are likely to be ones who know or at least believe they can get away with it, especially in the case of slave owners.

>>7231864
>How can your own sex vary in your sexual fantasies?

You must be new to /d/.

>>7231960
The country is surprisingly stable, thanks partially to the fact that mages often know to delegate to educated experts, even ones that are non-mages, and the stands for witness in the legislature have the same truth compulsions as court-rooms, making getting trustworthy expert and witness info slightly more reliable, even if it induces some political strife to maintain this practice when facing opposing political pressures to the truth, and even some mages can occasionally mess up under truth compulsions and fail to resist them, especially if under stress and distraction, which when there is a culture of academic debates using truth stands in the universities, promotes certain types of things and discourages dishonest types. Additionally, people with serious psycological conditions that make them excellent liars under normal conditions actually tend to be nearly incapable of most magic, and lack the willpower to resist truth compulsions, so the best liars in the real world, are often the worst liars under truth compulsions in this world, and they are usually egocentric enough to try to lie at least once before realizing it, and then determined in some cases enough to try to teach themselves to lie under compulsion for future purposes after discovering their weakness to such, if they can get access, only to find that their minds simply aren't capable of that sort of resistance, for reasons partially related to why they can lie so easily under normal conditions in the first place.

Because of that, some discovered consummate liars have truth compulsions built into their collars, often to mildly amusing results as their malevolence is put on 'compulsively honest but wanting to lie and telling that they want to lie display'. In some cases, their lies already are discovered to have broken some sort of law, and the country specifically seeks out to have these sort of people under proper slavery with the right kind of slave collars, since they are dangerous.

>>7231876
But you can really get off to imagining sex from either perspective?

>>7231962
I just want to know how others do it.

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>>7231908
I guess I'll repost my yuri concept from slavery threads past. "Lesbian Slave Planet" There are some shorts I wrote for it in the pastebine archive: >>7218922

It's set on a planet colonized exclusively by women. They have no FLT travel or communication. So there's no meaningful contact with earth or other human colonies.

Reproduction is achieved by artificially mixing DNA of two women and planting the embryo in one of them. The process allows for some tweaking of traits to the preferences of the mothers. With the one who would actually carry the child getting the final say. Mothers tended to want to emphasize the traits they most valued in themselves, which caused a snowball effect over generations. Eventually they had diverged into two distinct types. Sort of pseudo-sexes.

One type is an exaggeration of traditional femininity. Physically short and lithe. Emotionally sensitive, and submissive. They are refereed to as girls, regardless of age.

The other type could be described as amazonian. They are physically tall and strong. Their personalities tend to be more assertive and action oriented. They are referred to as women, regardless of age. A child of this type is a "little woman" not a girl.

By their nature, girls tended to rely on the women in their lives to take care of them. Which was eventually formalized into a legal slavery system. When the legislation passed, it was actually considered to be for the protection of disadvantaged girls. Now every girl is owned by someone, and thus someone is responsible for her care.

It is a relatively gentle form a slavery. Both law and cultural norms discourage abuse. Though light physical punishment is commonplace. Shaming/humiliation is also a popular form of punishment.

The cultural expectation is that women have affectionate relationships with their slaves. Which usually includes sex. A girl's place in society is somewhere between house wife and pet.

>>7232048
I liked your story. An interesting exploration of how the slave/girl dealt with her experiences and social role.

If ever slavery setting had two stories like that, conversations exploring how slave and master feel about life and each other, it would be a huge insight into the different kinds of slavery each of us likes.

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>>7232099
Thanks. I do much prefer stories where they're a real relationship between owner and slave. It makes for interesting emotional complications. When the same person is both the slave's oppressor and her primary source of love and comfort.

>>7232197
I love that too, but that's not all you did well. By having both of them talk to a third party about their relationship with each other, you gave a feel for how each of them understands the relationships and their own role and the other's. That plus the emotional complexity of master and lover is great.

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>>7232048
Some more details about the setting.

The colony is very prosperous. Nearly post-scarcity. By this point the planet has been fully terraformed to be very comfortable for humans. There are only about 50 million people on the entire planet, so land is abundant. Automated mining and manufacturing means that most other material goods are dirt cheap as well.

Jobs available for women generally require some creativity or difficult judgment calls. Everything else is automated. For instance, buildings are still designed by human architects, but the actual construction is handled by robots.

Girls don't have jobs. It's not legal to hire them as employees, and making a slave do any sort of commercial work is frowned upon. The one major exception is using one's own slave as a personal assistant at work. The attitude being that the girl is their to serve her mistress, not the company. So it's socially acceptable, but the girl still won't be on the payroll.

Most slaves occupy their time with domestic chores during the day. The general prosperity means that supporting a slave isn't much of a financial burden for a typical woman. Many can afford to keep two of three slaves well cared for without it being a hardship.

>>7232048
>>7232354
So the girls are treated like permanent children?

How does romance work? Is it between women, women and girls, between girls? What about monogamy?

What physical and shaming punishments are used?

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>>7232048
>>7232354
This seems pretty well thought out. Does your setting have any way to handle people who can't accept their place in the social structure? Girls born with dominant tendencies and Women who are submissive? Or even just women/girls who are just anti-authoritarian and are too idealistic for their own good.

Even if most people on this planet are content with this type of world, dissenting opinion is very human trait that makes a fictional society feel more...real.

>>7231734
Yes. Yes I do.

>>7218912
>>7218922
We should really condense all of this into a single pastebin link, because it's getting too unwieldy to post the whole thing in OPs.

Also the whole thread is getting unwieldy. I love the content but we should probably start using pastebin whenever possible.

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>>7232952
We already have one Anon.
>>7219492

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>>7213202
>be a Roman senator who bought a variety of slaves
>educate them and teach them how to speak Latin and Greek
>teach them to read
>teach them how to conduct business >buy them an apple each week and ensure they get enough food after inviting my clients and friends to dinner
>Whenever friends and clients are busy, invite slaves to drink and dine and talk about poems and politics over dinner that they prepared
>once in a while take them to the Circus Maximus or Novum Ampitheatrum for an afternoon
>a slave becomes a freedman once they earns me 5,000 Denarii
>have a casual romantic and sexual relationship with a certain cute slave girl
>always entertain the one slave's child. >When a slave gets sick, they are allowed to ask another to do work for them
>work with slaves and lead by example whenever going back to Villa Rustica in a town near the Italian coast
>slaves love you
>fair punishment under a sort of rule of law having jury of peers (slave) for determining guilt for crimes committed
>stay very close with freedmen and women after they buy their freedom
>offer them jobs and invite them to dinners
>slaves are your family
>feelsgoodman.jpg

>>7233000
Checked your digits, Gaius.

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>>7231747
>What does a day of camp involve?

0600: Lights turn on.

0620: Slaves are to be in formation, ready for release from their cells. They are expected to have conducted their hygiene by this time. Formation means standing at the front of the room, straight and at attention, to wait for release.

She is to cuff her hands behind her back with her personal cuffs by 0620; if the panopticon AI system detects that she has not cuffed her hands by this time she will be penalized.

Slaves are then escorted to the cafeteria.

0630: Breakfast time. The slaves are to eat their meals in 10 minutes. Hands are not uncuffed for mealtimes, however a slave will be punished if she makes a mess. The meals are already set at the benches. At 0640 sharp the meal bell rings and the girls must immediately stop eating or suffer the consequences.

0640: Breakfast ends. The slaves are led to the courtyard for morning exercise. The cuffs are not removed; morning exercises are warmups designed not to use the arms.

0740: Morning shower. These are done in a large communal shower room that sprinkles all the girls together. They are expected to use soap to clean; they must cooperate to clean each other.

0800: Class begins. After the shower, the girls are led to their classes. The back of her chair has a mechanism that releases a girl's handcuffs.

1150: Lunchtime. The girls put their cuffs back on before leaving their seats. Everything is pretty much the same as breakfast.

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(note: the schedule is flexible. This is merely a typical schedule)

1200: Return to the classroom. Classes continue.

1500: Sexual classes begin. These classes are focused on how to serve a master sexually and include practical lessons. The cuffs come off if necessary for the lesson. Lessons may include oral and anal as well as accustoming girls to different types of restraints such as strappado.

Regardless, there is a principle that must never be violated: a slave girl may never play a dominant (meaning penetrative) role. The girls are never paired up in such a way that one trainee would be playing a dominant role. The dominant roles are performed by teachers or by dummies.

1600: Sexual classes end. The girls are taken out to the courtyard for physical training. This workout is much more intense and is designed to push the girls to their limits, to the brink of exhaustion.

1800: Evening shower. Cuffs are back on at this point.

1820: Dinnertime.

1830: The only social time of the day, a mere 30 minutes. The girls are released into the courtyard to mill about and catch their breath.

1900: Command drilling. Lesbos uses a set of standardized slave poses with standardized commands, and these are drilled into the girls for an hour a day.

2000: Evening classes. These are lecture-type.

1130: Evening classes release. The girls have half an hours to prepare for bed.

1200: Lights off.

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>>7232372
>So the girls are treated like permanent children?
More or less, yeah. It's not exactly the same, but certainly very similar.

>How does romance work? Is it between women, women and girls, between girls? What about monogamy?
Romance is most often between women and their slaves. Romance between girls is also common. Usually when they're owned by the same woman.

Romance between women is significantly rarer. The trite common wisdom is that relationships between women don't work because they both want to be in charge. Some do make it work though.

There is no expectation of monogamy. Women can own more than one slave and will often be romantically involved with all of them. They may be involved with each other as well. Every adult member of a household being in love with each of the others is actually regarded as the ideal domestic arrangement.

>What physical and shaming punishments are used?
Physical punishment typically means either some form of spanking/light beating, or shocks from a cattle prod-like device.

Shaming punishments would vary a lot, and often be tailored to the misbehavior. For example, if you see a girl who's gagged, you know she probably said something disrespectful or wouldn't be quiet when she was told to.

It can be something as blunt as taking her out in public with her tits, ass, and/or pussy exposed. Public nudity is allowed, but even for slaves it's not the norm.

It can also be as subtle is making her wear that one dress she hates. So that no one outside the slave's household will even realize she's being punished.

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>>7232515
>Does your setting have any way to handle people who can't accept their place in the social structure?
Counseling is their go to response for girls who are chronically disobedient or depressed. The goal of the counseling is to help the girls work through whatever issue is bothering them and become happy slaves. Which is of course predicated on the assumption that it's possible for all of them to become happy slaves.

Girls who truly can't accept their slavery may be forced to attend regular counseling sessions for most of their lives. Constantly being told that how they feels is a disorder. It's one of the more unpleasant fates possible in the setting.

It's somewhat easier for women who aren't dominant than girls who aren't submissive. They still have to deal with the social pressure of being essentially transgender, but they have more freedom to act on their feelings. Such as seeking relationships with other women who they can submit to.

There would be some people who are ideologically opposed to slavery and agitate for change. The mainstream society would mostly ignore them. Their position is just too unpopular to gain traction.

>>7233000

Will we see slavery return in this glorious form by the year 3000?

>>7233238
>More or less, yeah. It's not exactly the same, but certainly very similar.
What are the major difference? Romance, obviously.

>>7233258
>The goal of the counseling is to help the girls work through whatever issue is bothering them and become happy slaves. Which is of course predicated on the assumption that it's possible for all of them to become happy slaves.
>Girls who truly can't accept their slavery may be forced to attend regular counseling sessions for most of their lives. Constantly being told that how they feels is a disorder. It's one of the more unpleasant fates possible in the setting.
Why do I find this, the unavoidable assumption that becoming a happy slave is possible and necessary, to be the hottest part of the setting?

>They still have to deal with the social pressure of being essentially transgender, but they have more freedom to act on their feelings.
Do they get to live as girls with understanding women?

>>7231993
Yes, I can, although masturbation can mess it up if I pay too much attention to the physical sensations when imagining being the other gender myself, it works a bit better in erotic dreams.

>>7233556
Sweet. I can only get off to imagining from the other perspective.

How do the physical sensations mess it up? How do you get erotic dreams?

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>>7232376
She looks in much worse shape than I remember from the game.

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>>7231880
The gems are just a mechanism by which this system works. I didn't want the link between master and slave to be abstract; the gems simply allow for a strictly defined rule to govern the mechanics of this universe.

>>7233438
Thanks for your endorsement, mang. Consider that not all of the slaves are females nor are you raping all of them. I also would utilize them in a time machine to the past rather than use human labor in 1000 years.

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>>7233546
>What are the major difference? Romance, obviously.
One of the biggest things is that women can have adult conversations with girls. Without feeling the need to simplify or censor anything.

For example, if a woman needs to vent about her frustrations with drama at work, she's not going to unload that on her kid. She'll talk to her slave about it.

>Do they get to live as girls with understanding women?
Legally they would always be free women, but nothing is stopping them from behaving like a slave with another woman. They would just need to find someone who wants to have that kind of relationship with them. Though many would keep that aspect of their relationship private, to avoid the disapproval of others.

>>7234610
>One of the biggest things is that women can have adult conversations with girls.
I didn't realize that from the original posts. It is a big difference and I imagine it leads to many more.

>>7233258
>not storming the Bastille and putting an end to such an abhorrent practice

Then the heads of the ruling class start rolling, they will soon change their mind.

>>7234676
Why would you want to deprive girls and women of their natural places that they are innately suited for?

>>7234681
Mankind is innately suited for liberty, and nothing more. The idea of "gender" as purported by the state is nothing more than a pure social construct that has no evolutionary precedent in our species' history! It is mere brainwashing of the lower class, and a tool to keep the decadent "women" class happy, decaying from weakness!!

>>7234681
Also sorry, I would be a girl in this scenario.... but sometimes I get a bit carried away...

: ^)

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>>7234628
Women do tend to be somewhat patronizing when they talk to girls, but not to the same extent as with children.

Girls are just as intelligent as women, and are actually a little better at understanding emotions. Their difficulty with living independently isn't from being simple minded. On the contrary, they tend to overthink things and get caught up in indecision and worry. Which is why they benefit from a mistress making decisions for them.

Women do have real conversations with their slaves. Sometimes confiding things they aren't comfortable discussing with other women. They can trust their slaves to be empathetic, and often insightful about interpersonal matters.

>>7234695
>Also sorry, I would be a girl in this scenario.... but sometimes I get a bit carried away...
Don't worry. Your mistress will take you in hand and give you a firm spanking, until you calm down and are ready to apologize.

>>7234688
Then how come almost all girls happily accept their role and would never want the responsibilities and "liberty" of women? Yes there are troubled exceptions, but they need help, not to be treated as showing some genuine need all girls share.

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>>7234610
That would be a neat setup to see in a story.

Like, would the subby Woman still be above the girls in the household?

>>7213346
Sauce? google images and iqdb turned up nothing

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>>7213202
>What sort of world is it?
An alternate history Earth, diverging from our own timeline when the Suez canal was built by the ancient Egyptians in approximately 1,400 BC, turning their empire into a minor naval power. However, their maritime technology was limited, as was their access to wood. As such, the canal wouldn't achieve it's full potential until the rise of the Phoenician empire several centuries later. In addition to their Mediterranean colonies, most of the Indian Ocean was colonized and conquered by the Phoenicians; the resulting naval empire necessitated innovation in shipbuilding technology, leading to the creation of galleons capable of circumnavigating the globe.
This facilitated the exchange of learning between the West and the East, resulting in a flourishing of science and the arts, as well as rapid development and settlement of areas that remained largely uninhabited for most of our own timeline's history.
Under these conditions the Phoenician Empire turned into a glob-spanning superpower, controlling almost every coastal area between the strait of Gibraltar and Taiwan.
Such a drastic alteration in early history led to changes in the way humanity perceives society itself; Phoenician dominance in the Middle East led to Judaism being wiped out before it could develop into other Abrahamic religions, and ancient Greece saw itself slowly turn into part of the Phonetic heartland, causing all the great philosophers of the time to espouse different sets of values than they did on our Earth.
This has led to money, rather than faith, being at the core of government, as well as a global system of chattel slavery.
My fantasies usually take place approximately 200 years after the relatively peaceful collapse of the Empire, which has left a world composed primarily of medium-sized merchant republics, which conduct naval warfare with one another and profit from an international trade network.
1/?

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>>7235842
The Indian ocean is at the center of this new world, containing all of the largest cites and most prominent economies. In particular, Sri Lanka has emerged as the spiritual successor to the Phoenician Empire. It has a level of technology equivalent to what we had in the late 1700's.
People from all over the world and of every race and culture can be found in both the plantation manors and the slave markets. The old empire was based primarily on profits, and bothered itself little with stamping out local traditions or conducting genocide in their overseas colonies.
Multiple centuries of racial mixing on this level has led to the narrow majority of the population in the Indian Ocean, as well as major islands all over the globe, being multiracial to some degree.
>/pol/ would be mad.
Commercial slavery makes up the backbone of these maritime societies, with the enslaved population being composed primarily of those captured from other nations, people born into slavery, or freemen who have gone too far into debt. Food is grown by these slaves on old-south style plantation estates, slaves comprise the urban lower class, and ships are manned primarily by indentured crewmen, who differ slightly from ordinary slaves, and spend their meager wages drinking and whoring in the great coastal cities, many of which are built for the express purpose of providing booze and slave pussy to weary sailors.
Monogamy is virtually nonexistent, except among the small urban middle class of freemen. The rich keep vast harems of slave women, guarded by eunuchs, while slave men and sailors get their sexual release from cheap slave whores, who are forced to give themselves to dozens of men every day in brothels. The masters simply don't leave enough women for the notion of romantic relationships to exist among the slave class.
As a result of this, the masters are the only ones who reproduce in most cases, personally breeding as many of their female slaves as possible.
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>>7235875
The masters never have wives, instead keeping a harem of slaves. Any children born are also slaves; the masters will personally raise a few of the more promising children as their successors, while keeping all the others as slaves and usually selling them as they age. It's considered a status symbol for a master to father as many children as possible.
Girls are occasionally chosen for freedom by the masters, though much less often than boys, and will oftentimes end up keeping their own harem of handsome male slaves, who are put under lock and key to ensure they only have sex when and with who the mistress orders them to.
Slave men, on the other hand, take out their pent up sexual aggression on brothel girls, who are often violently abused, and passed around like pieces of meat until they become too old, at which point they become worthless for anything but menial tasks.
The urban middle class still engage in monogamy and marriage, but are surrounded on all sides by an orgy of cum and shackles.
The societal emphasis on plantation agriculture and fathering children has led to an excess of population, especially along the coasts, and many slaves live and die in hellish urban fleshpits, or on militaristic plantations where they're forced into heavy labor and get the shit cucked out of them on a regular basis, with very few of them working or fighting their way to freedom.

>>7235898
I like to imagine myself as either a wealthy master with a harem of subservient bitches, or one of the sailors using some piece of trash as my cumdumpster in the smoky backroom of a tavern.

>>7233568
I don't do anything special to get erotic dreams, they just happen sometimes.

Physical sensations can mess it up by not matching what is possible for the other gender when imagining being the other gender, I can imagine having different parts, but my own parts getting stimulated and noticing that too consciously can break the imagined state so I'm no longer 'feeling' it and it no longer seems real enough. It's hard to maintain focus for that kind of thing when masturbating, possible, but harder than regular masturbation, as in I'd fail at the trick probably 1 in 10 times because some sensation being noticeable enough or opening my eyes would break the illusion. Regular masturbation is much easier to pull off.

>>7235923
I meant 9 in 10 times I'd fail, 1 in 10 times was the success rate.

>>7235875
til sri lanka is a country

>>7235898
>the shit cucked out of them

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>>7235345
>Like, would the subby Woman still be above the girls in the household?
It's an alternative lifestyle. So there wouldn't be any standard way it works. Some only show their sub side when alone with their dominate lover. Others would want to be treated just like a girl all the time.

Some would even try to scratch that itch with girls instead of other women. By submitting to their own slaves in private.

>>7234745
S-she will never get me to submit!!!