Can we get a general consensus here?

>>6928321
dickgirls
i.e. women with a dick as opposed to shemales, men with fake tits. So real tits real dick no vag... dickgirl?

Can we stop pretending futa isnt way beyond having both genitals? Honestly the dick+cunt fetish seems to have become a bit marginal anyway compared to the overwhelming fuckload of pictures with cuntless women who have dicks. Searching for futa on so many mainstream porn sites nets you no vag but tons of chicks with dicks.

>>6928321
You're missing in-progress trans, which is different than a shemale.

>>6928321
>Am I missing something?

Does /d/ give a fuck? A breeding bull will always breed and fuck. A hole is a hole and cat is fine too.

>>6928394
Fair enough but unless it's something with a story that flat out explains the gender, it's a shemale.
>>6928398
Yes, this is because nobody flags shemales as shemales.

>>6928402
>You're missing in-progress trans, which is different than a shemale.
This is hentai, not real life gender identification, so that's why I didn't include it.

>>6928404
>Does /d/ give a fuck?
I hope so.

>>6928402
I think saying newhalf (japanese term for trans) would be better for refering to actual transgender women in doujinshi and such. Sites such as Gelbooru uses it as a tag.

>>6928406
But shemale in your definition is a man with fake tits... fake tits have a completely different look and feel to the real thing and I strongly oppose the idea that all the females with dicks on this website are really males with fake tits in the eyes of the creators and consumers.

I dont think its right to apply "live action" porn terms to the hentai community. Where live action shemales and traps are definitely males for biological reasons they actually fill a (giant) niche of fetishes that require females with dicks and the hentai version fills the same need for CHICKS with dicks (as opposed to men with tits).

So no, you cant have consensus and trying to get it is probably a waste of time.

>>6928413
>I dont think its right to apply "live action" porn terms to the hentai community.
I agree. But then how do you quickly differentiate futas, shemales and dickgirls and herms when all four are ultimately referred to (and tagged) the same, futa?

"I need to classify everything in order to understand myself" the thread.

This topic got real confusing real fast, like... I don't know what you people want any more.

Well... Futa's with only male genitals are called "full package futa" according to Gelbooru.... Does that help anyone?!

>>6928321
Seems right.

>>6928321
sounds about right. I'd also add a side note that futas tend to be on the extreme side of sexual features like size and ratios.

>>6928449
>full-package_futanari
>Futanari depicted with vagina, penis, and testicles -- the "full package", so to speak.

>newhalf
>Similar to futanari, but possessing no female genitalia. That is to say, the character has a female body but male genitals.
>Also known in the West as "shemale"

>>6928398
No, and back to tumblr with ye.

ふたなり is hermaphroditism, no if ands or buts.

The main reason it's always a female gendered hermpahrodite is because this is hentai.

Th first root of the word FUTANARI, futa literally means two.

Wikipedia even knows this:

Futanari (ふたなり?, seldom: 二形, 双形, literally: dual form; 二成, 双成, literally: [to be of] two kinds)

The only abnormal use of the word has been for describing androgyny.

Perhaps you Tumblr guys aren't getting this, but we're classifying hentai based on a community who partakes in Japanese medium that involve these fetishes, and every time we attempt to differentiate them, you guys come in and ask that we include fifteen super niche categories and try to police what means what.

We don't care.

>>6928321
I honestly see more shemales acting like men and having no female genetalia, similar to dickgirls, but this makes the most sense.

>>6928487
Out of curiosity, does anyone actually draw stuff with 'male futanari', that is, characters who are male except for having both male and female genitalia?

>>6928321
partially noble, partially insane. i never went to an ocean or a beach and tried to label the different sand or water in it.

Its a massive spectrum, with lots of opinions, even if you find and define every little thing, opinions will then diverge.

We just need broader terms if were gonna define people. I understand the importance when searching for porn of course but outside that, we need something like Dgender and Dsexuality. D for different, which sounds better than ab- abnormal.

Or we could just use the words atypical.

"hey man, you gay?"
"Nah, I'm atypical"

almost good. but not quite.

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>>6928497
Yes, art like this exists, but it's rare as fuck. Straight stuff among it is even rarer.

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>>6930119
And androgynous futas, whose bodies are as balanced as their genitals, are pretty much unobtainium tier.

>>6928321
Well, that only lack ongoing transgender.
Else it's extremely right.

But good luck on making people follows that.

>>6928321
In drawn/animated "newhalf" or "transsexual" will usually be the term of reference. Implants can't be assumed and are usually a separate fetish tacked on by specific artists.
This category would be defined as a woman with typically at least average, if not large or outright huge breasts and hips/ass, and typically large dick and usually balls as well but no female genitalia as it's assumed she used to be a boy or man at some point in the past.

>>6928398
>Honestly the dick+cunt fetish seems to have become a bit marginal anyway compared to the overwhelming fuckload of pictures with cuntless women who have dicks.

It's a matter of perspective. If you follow western artists like Dmitrys and Incase, the women with dicks and vaginas might look like a marginal fetish, but if you read lots of Japanese doujinshis then shemales, newhalves and traps will look like a marginal thing unless you only read works by authors who focus on those kinds of dickgirls.

It's not like there is any meaningful research on how people prefer their dickgirls.

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>>6928321
There is nothing to discuss. There are already defined hentai terms for that.

>Twink
>Fully male person with very lean physique, almost feminine.
Bishounen (99% of bishounen are twinks).

>Crossdresser
>A fully male person who dresses feminine clothing but is otherwise clearly male.
Crossdresser (male).

>Trap
>Person who has male genitalia and may or may not behave like a male, but otherwise dresses up and has the general appearance of someone feminine, typically having a flat chest or very small natural breasts. May also behave like a female.
Otoko no ko. (But trap also works).

>Shemale
>A male person with male genitalia whom also looks and behaves feminine and has breast implants.
Newhalf. Shemale also works.

>Futanari
>A female person, who behaves, looks, dresses and sounds female but has both female and male genitalia,
Full package futanari.

>though sometimes doesn't have external testicles.
Futanari. It may sound weird to you, but this is the standard futa in hentai (no testicles, only vagina and dick). The idea is that the girl somehow grows a penis, or her clitoris becomes one.
This is why some people claim futa are not gay, as they are usually "lesbian porn" technically speaking (but we all know there is a penis fetish in there).

>Tomboy
>A female that looks like a male and may also behave like one. Typically has small breasts or a flat chest.
Tomboy, yes.

Those are tags boorus or hentai sites use to classify this, and they have existed for years.

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missing cuntboys, shameful