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Anything where the character has their gender bent in canon. I'm personally looking for ranma, but others are appreciated!
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>>6823723
Dumping some ranma I have.
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That's all I've got for now. Sorry, I'm still pretty new to this.
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I wanted Ranma's "curse" so bad when I was younger. Hell I still do.
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No more Ranma. Does Ashley count as R63?
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>>6823808
Sure, why not
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Just remembered an oldie that never finished.
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>>6823816
Good ol' Natsuru
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>>6823808
Sure, I always liked the angle that Ash's mom (as a single mother) didn't want to raise a daughter because she had her own misgivings about becoming a single mom; so she instead raised her Ashley to become Ash.
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Does anyone know any good ranma 1/2 fiction stories? Their have to be some.
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Boku Girl's all about that
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>>6823900
How have i never found this before, this is exactly what i was looking for!
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>>6823907
Here's to you
http://www.mangahere.co/manga/boku_girl/c095.5/
This count?
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>>6823873
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5308231/1/Tabula-Rasa is alright.
Great Ranma/Ryoga pairing later on...
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>>6823911
You're the best. I'm not sleeping tonight i guess ;)
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I prefer Ranma-Chan when her hair is let down and is more feminine. But good ones like that are rare
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>>6823824
where did you take that?
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>>6824649
source?
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>>6825935
oh my goddess
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>>6823900
I hate when the male is already really girly.
>Manly Man
>pink hair
>short
>looks exactly like a girl
I wouldn't say Ranma is a rugged alpha male, but at least you know him as "Boy turned girl" instead of "Girly boy turned girl".
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>>6826205
Ranma is ridiculously unmasculine as a guy while still not being a twink.
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>>6826205
I guess Boku Girl wrapped up. Hope it had a decent ending.
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>>6826271
Which is ironic since his whole deal was to be "a man among men."
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>>6827173
Well he's only like that because of that contract his dad made him sign as a baby with his mom. The one saying he'd return as a true man or have to commit suicide
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>>6827178
I dunno I'd say Ranma was somehow ridiculously unmasculine.

The shit he pulls as his girl half is oftentimes manipulative, not for personal pleasure.

He's got a pretty serious ego regarding his manhood, and he never even knew about the contract.

That all said, lets post some shit.

I've got an idea for a few Ranma adult fics. One more story oriented, the other more romance/sex oriented. The latter would also include BDSM as a major theme which throws me a bit since I like the idea a lot, but I don't know shit about the culture/whatever.
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And some more from my Pixiv stash
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>>6824608
Damn is this canon? All the more reason to getting around to finish that little gem.
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>>6827366
It's from Next, they crossdress to enter a kingdom of women.

Here's another canon GB set.
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Is the ranma half manga any good?
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>>6827461
It's okay. Has a lot of absurd, amusing moments.

It works best as a comedy, then a martial arts action story, then last as a romance. Since it was written at a time when romcom stuff had a contractual obligation with Satan to never resolve itself in the actual story.

It's nothing serious though. You can easily pick it up for a bit, read some, come back later and not need earlier bits for a whole lot of context.
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>>6827461
What >>6827471 said. I have to add that it's one of my favorite manga. But you need to understand that it is somewhat an artifact of its time, the anime especially is, with its art style and character models being very much late 80s/early 90s standard.
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>>6827173
Any more Iva-san, Queen of canon gender bending?

Ranma and Natsuru are probably princesses or something.
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>>6827708
Just one of Iva fucking with Nami's hormones and making her features grow in weird ways.
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>>6827702
Is it decent on the romance / fetishy side of things, too?
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>>6827745
Not really.

Like I said, the romance is basically the most minor part and it's from when love interests never talked to each other about their feelings.

As I recall the series implies the MC and not-really-but-really S/O are in love/whatever but they never say it to each other in the entire time.

You want a good romance or fetish show? Watch or read something more recent. The focus is wacky and absurd shit and comedic situations.

Also, don't trust the fanbase. An entire meta-canon has evolved where there is stuff perpetuated by the fanbase that simply doesn't exist or is factually inaccurate.

The gimmick concept itself, change into curse form with cold water, back to regular with hot, is cute and used fairly frequently. But it's used as a gimmick, not for storytelling gender or anything.

Fetishy, I mean... there's stuff that's fetish related. Bunnygirl outfits, corsets, etc. But more like passing jokes than anything else.
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>>6827758
>As I recall the series implies the MC and not-really-but-really S/O are in love/whatever but they never say it to each other in the entire time

In the manga, in the final arc, they actually do acknowledge it. It never fully gets resolved due to the series ending and the interaction of the other characters...

Great series in general, but definitely not a romance series.
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>>6828252
Akane and Ranma do admit SOMETHING quietly I think when the other isn't around during the Saffron arc (been a long time since reading). But it was never one of those "hey you know I care for you" admissions to each other

I could easily be wrong, been a long time. But I remember that even to the end when it's obvious to the reader they're dancing around it.
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>>6827758
>Watch or read something more recent.
Any suggestions?
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>>6828497
Sekainohate de Aimashou
Not outstanding but the ending is sweet and cute and there's some admission of emotions as well. It has closure

Kanojo ni Naru Hi
More romantic with a flavor of comedy but the characters are fun. The original five chapter series had a weird ending but the additional chapters released are really good and fill in some blanks.

Kanojo ni Naru Hi Another
Sequel to above. Less romantic outright, more comedic + interpersonal. Good stuff though, I think I like it more than the original on some levels.

Megu Miruku
Pure guilty pleasure garbage with fanservice, but there's a lot of tits and shit. Terrible story premise. Almost a real ending with closure then a cockblock.
But hey, tits.

Idol Pretender
SUPER cute. Needed a better ending with more definite closure.

Conveni-N
Leave brain by the door. It features cockroaches piloting a human who was turned into a robot by aliens at one point. MC does turn into a cutie though about a third to halfway through.

Nozomu Nozomi
Has cute art, cute moments, and then weird shit where MC jacks off his sister, or a room full of boys jerk off incessantly to a porn DVD. Honestly better with less lewd, and it's not even that explicit.

Tensei Shoujo Zukan
Weird world where people go through puberty via cocoon metamorphosis. Interesting mini-stories though. Some sexual exploration, some FtM, some MtF. Some temp some permanent. Mostly cute fare.

Boku Girl
Mostly romcom with some weird supernatural stuff.
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>>6823781
don't we all?
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>>6823781
What is it with male nerds (I assume everyone here has to be at least a little weird if they're posting on /d/) and wanting to be girls? This fetish is way too common to be mere chance.
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>>6828716
I'm actually transgender, not a fetish.
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>>6828723
Ok, but that just illustrates the point better. 4chan has a higher number of trans women than you'd expect in the general population. Other nerdy communities/hobbies are similar (there are a ton of trans girls who major in computer science for example).
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>>6828716
>>6828729
Okay I love trans women and respect them but for real this is not the place to start this discussion.

It doesn't contribute to the topic.

Armchair psychology does nothing but piss people off.
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>>6828729
It is kind of a stereotype that transwoman will be in the computer field. I think it has to do with the ability to avoid talking to people face to face.
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Here's a drawfriend delivery. Shortstack Ranma is best Ranma.
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Are there any Evangelion characters gender bended?
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At least post the finished one, eh?
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>>6828807

... actually, while I'm thinking on it, I managed to get a couple more Ranma lewds finished. Hopefully no one minds 'em being posted.

I'm not super confident in 'em cuz they're pretty dumb, but eh. First up, somehow transported to lewd fantasy land so fuck Orcs.
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>>6828810

More fantasy sex idiocy, Ranma as a succubus for some reason.
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>>6828812

And then this thing.
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>>6828813
Oh snap. I follow your blog. Sorry I didn't have the finished one handy otherwise I'd have posted it.

Love the "Ranma as succubus" idea since it'd be a great fucking story as the male ego fights with the succubus "find dudes and fuck them to fuel your power" thing. Especially since the sex would probably be amazing.

I can safely say that your delivery is one of my favorite I've ever gotten by the way. You're doing good for the world with high quality Ranma smut.
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>>6828835

It does seem like an idea where there's a lot of potential to have fun with it. I really need to take some time and flesh out one of these outlines I've put together.
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>>6828847
Of the ones I saw it's the one with the most potential.

Spring of Drown Succubus, starts off like normal girl. Then it just starts building as the sight of men (and women) makes her feel warm and tingly. Starts getting more and more suggestive (in her clumsy, inexperienced way).

Starts with seducing people for things, just learning how it all works. Finding out the "less is more" method. It then escalates more, and more. Till she's taking stringing boys along for them to buy her things. She justifies it all as her just taking advantage of dumb boys, means nothing. Then one night a date goes further and she gives a blowjob and gets her pussy eaten out. And it feels AMAZING. The guy ends up putty in her hands, and she feels like nothing ever before. Satisfied and content but also more alive than ever.

It just keeps escalating from there till she has a side bunch of fuckbuddies to satisfy her. She's ditching her family and friends to live her female life, all the while she's developing her demonic traits which she only notices one day when bathing.

She finds the more sex she starts having the more control and power she gains, including the ability to nullify her curse and keep her in female form. Starts visiting hot springs, living a second life. Etc.

Sorry I like to ramble and brainstorm. I'm also a WAFF happy ending guy so I imagine this Ranma being like... a sex therapist and doctor since she can innately tell if people have STDs and help people out.
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This manga called Tsugumomo had a gender bender arc that ended with this.
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Still thinking of Ranma succubus. Maybe it's like half-succubus because the curse can't complete a total transformation.

She comes to terms that she's a sexual freak not because of the curse, but even before. Ends up wanting to be open and comes out to family after hiding it. Some shun her, others respect her.
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I've read some shitty TG Manga to completion and something about Kampfer always turns me off after like three chapters.

Shame since the MC turns into a cutie but the complete utter lack of any other character cinches it.
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I usually conceptually prefer carrying on from the end of the series rather than retreading canon, but then you have to figure out a way to contrive for Ranma either getting succubified later or having the spring of drowned succubus thing going unnoticed for the entire series. Which, to be fair, seems like the sort of ridiculous contrivance that would fit right in. Well, whatever, something to roll around.
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>>6831438
Carrying on from the end carries a lot of baggage, but when it comes to fiction I'm open to whatever works best.

A Ranma who arrives in Nerima already a LITTLE different is a good place to start with it. It doesn't need to be an epic, just one of those ones where "This event happened this way in canon, but in this universe it happens this way" and focus the details on important things, like loss of virginity, etc.

But I probably aint writing it either. I want an Akane/Ranma-chan BDSM story where Akane femdoms female Ranma and at the end the two decide its better for Ranma to be a girl permanently to serve Mistress Akane all the time.

But I find the idea of the less powerful but incredibly willful Akane dominating Ranma really hot.
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>>6831496
Personally, I've always enjoyed Ranma/Ryoga longform romance. I know it's cliche, but seeing Ranma slowly explore femininity as he/she grows more mature as a person is great.

Speaking of longform romance+Feminization and canon Genderbending...
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I've read some decent Ranma/Ryoga.

It's just always neat to see a story that explores Ranma's femininity without.

A) Being completely boy in girl form (defeats purpose)

B) Being a cliche stereotype of femininity. (Some stories are more guilty than others, some at least try to justify it later).
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>>6828723
>transgender
>not a fetish induced mental illness
Yes it is.
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>>6831935
I'm genuinely curious if it actually hurts to be so pathetic that your only source of amusement is bitching about transgender people in an gender bender thread?
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>>6831496
That BDSM story idea sounds nice. Do you intend to turn Akane male though. Because a lot of fanfiction does that and I personally can't stand it.
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>>6832808
Hell no. Gentle/stern Femdom Akane.

I sort of see the whole thing starting off in a scenario where Ryoga, thinking Ranma-chan is his cousin again, spanks her while Akane watches and gets hot and Ranma-chan is both humiliated and turned on and it goes from there.

So Akane gets rid of Ryoga and, giving in to impulse, begins to dominate Ranma-chan.

And it goes from there, with Akane getting more and more dom and Ranma more and more sub. Ballgags, collars, etc. And the best thing is both know Ranma has more than enough strength to end it all, but never does because she likes it too much.
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>>6831098
Translation?
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>>6832818
Now my dear friend, you seem to have good taste. I applaud you.
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>>6832853
I don't speak moon unfortunately, I just know how to leech Pixiv pretty okay.

>>6832860
I'm sorely tempted to write it because I think it'll be hot, fun and actually sort of touching in a way. But I don't trust myself to write the BDSM thing right, I imagine I'd write it like an outsider when it's much more important to the story than just fetish stuff.
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>>6823723
Delivering
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>>6828580
Here are some more:

Artificial Maiden:
Short shoujo manga where the MC ends up as a girl and falls in love with a guy. Not good.

Blazblue Remix Heart:
MC gets magically transformed into a girl and gets sent to a school where she lives as a girl. Pretty good and with a surprising amount of focus on the MC's psychology.

Entrans!:
Almost plain ecchi. MC keeps almost getting raped by her horny classmates.

Fukigen Cinderella:
Misogynist periodically transforms into a woman. Interesting premise, diappointing ending.

Kashimashi:
MC gets turned into a girl but was already girlier than all the women. Barely counts as genderbender and not really interestng.

Panikuru Iko-san:
Boy gets a sex change and is lusted after by an older woman. Very bad.

Sai Taker Futari no Artemis:
Nice art and a potentially good premice marred by awful execution and being a shitty harem.

Tsukiyo no Fromage:
Slice of life series where the MC ends up in a magical world as a girl. Worth a read.
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>>6833581
Problems with Jinzou Shoujo aside (and it does have problems) it IS my fetish to be upgraded into a badass magical girl in case of horrible calamity.

Most of your other stuff I largely agree on, having read most of it.

Remix Heart was corny as fuck, and obviously just a quick tie in manga with lots of awkward "GIRLS DO THIS" stuff I think was written by people who haven't seen girls in a decade.

But otherwise I did like it a lot.
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>>6833591
I'm pretty sure that the author (Deko Akao) and the illustrator (Sumeragi) of Remix Heart know a thing or two about girls, seeing how they're both women. As for the "girls do this", it only happens in the first 5-6 chapters until the protagonist gets used to living among girls and then she stops it.

By the way, the series is getting a sequel that starts next month called Blazblue Variable Heart.
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>>6833603
Awesome. I did enjoy it and I hope to see Mai get with Tora.

I mostly meant the way it definitely seemed pandered to the main audience of BlazBlue. That or I just don't understand Japanese teenage girls at all. It just seemed really cheesy.

But maybe it just IS cheesy and I attribute it to the wrong thing. Or the women were writing to the expected market of people who play BlazBlue and like girls with big jugs in small outfits
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>>6833644
I think that Remix Heart was aimed at the same target audience as the games. The writer is one of the people works on the games.

But I think Remix Heart did a pretty good job portraying the girls as a group of friends who enjoy spending time together. A lot of series of this sort have the female characters that are linked only by their common lust for the protagonist. And I liked that it had the protagonist living like a normal girl; I don't like it much when a genderbent MC tries to live as a boy as it kind of defeats the point.
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>>6828857
>Spring of Drown Succubus

You should check out One Half Wing and a Prayer on Fanfiction dot net.
>Ranma takes the plunge, and comes out with a pair of leather wings. Now the boy with no idea of how to deal with women is a sucubuss. Good luck, buddy.
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>>6833958
Is it smutty but sweet?

>>6833663
I did like that they were super friends, and I liked that Mai more or less was happy as a girl.

I do like SOME adjustment/rejection, but I like that Mai didn't see it as being the end of her life.
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>>6833074
kek
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>>6834209
Mai did have to adjust to living as a girl. She had to get used to picking and wearing women's clothes, at more touchy interactions with her friends such as hugging, at being naked around her female classmates, etc. And her friends did find her behavior odd and commented that she was rather boyish at first, so she she wasn't able to pull it off immediately. But I did like that Mai was actually competent at it without being perfect. In Boku Girl for example the protagonist acted like a complete idiot in that situation and couldn't even figure out how women use the toilet, which was something I disliked.

And Mai did initially have feelings of rejection since she wanted to reverse her change. Those intensified after she realized that she had fallen in love with a guy and that it wasn't just her body that had been affected, but her mind as well. She suffered an identity crisis as she started worrying that her original self was disappearing and being replaced by something new. In the end she accepted her new self, but it didn't happen automatically. I agree with you that there has to be some inner conflict. In Kashimashi for example Hazuki immediately accepted that she was a girl and had no problems adjusting, which made it feel no different than if she had been a girl from the beginning.
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>>6834240
I should have phrased it more like "more extreme". She showed some discomfort but I like a bit more.

But it's more personal preference. I enjoyed Remix Heart, it was light and funny. Had some decent moments of introspection too.

Mizuki in Boku Girl being so clueless was played for laughs.

Kashimashi barely counts as a TG manga. As I recall we never even see his face before, we have no comparison for it. It's a yuri romance manga, and a boring one to boot
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>>6834249
Fair enough. As for Mizuk, she was too dense, passive and indecisive for my tastes so I didn't like her as a character. And I think having a character be that much of an idiot is going the easy route to generate laughs. The manga disappointed me as well because it kept dragging on and desperately maintaining the status quo by a constant stream of filler.

I agree on Kahimashi; it barely felt as a genderbender manga and I can't say I liked it in general. Suspending one's suspension of disbelief with the setup they had, where a bunch of aliens moved into a house after announcing themselves to the world and nobody ever tries to contact or interfere with them, was difficult. Also the way they resolved the love triangle in the end was quite forced and disappointing.
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>>6834261
I just hope Boku Girl doesn't return to status quo for its ending. It would kill me since I've largely enjoyed the slow transition to femininity Mizuki has undergone. The story has its issues, but I've liked how much of it has progressed in its pacing.

Kashimashi was just plain old boring. I've read a lot of boring shit, and this one kept me from finishing.

Kampfer was boring too.
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>>6834314
Boku Girl has ended. You can probably guess what the conclusion was.

Kampfer and Ore Twintail were both very bad. They're standard harems with an ultra-dense MC surrounded by pretty girls who throw themselves to him but he fails to notice. The genderbending in both cases is simply a gimmick in order to provide extra fanservice and doesn't seriously affect the protagonist.
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>>6834371
So it ended like shit then.

Damn. That's got me salty. They spent a LOT of time transitioning the character so I imagine she just goes "back to normal" like nothing happens because that's what this shit is like.

Idol Pretender had effectively a non-ending in how little closure it offered, but at least it didn't pretend the MC was unaffected by everything.

Ore Twintail sort of interested me because of the MC being interested in being the little girl, but it seemed exactly as you said.
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>>6826205
Same here, I mean the dude looks like a trap already and it's a shame he didn't get bigger boobs, he's almost flat-chested which makes this whole gender bender even more meh to me. atleast.
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>>6834376
Actually Boku Girl ended with Mizuki staying as a girl and hooking up with Takeru. Pretty much the same ending as Idol Pretender, though the latter had a pretty rushed ending.

As for the Ore Twintail MC, he never cared about being a girl; he simply liked twintails. And he spent less time as a girl than even Natsuru.
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>>6834381
Oh for real?

Well. Damn. I'm actually looking forward to it now. Here's hoping it's not done like shit.

I thought they had decent enough chemistry, though every time I look at Takeru I see Kamina from Gurren-Lagann.
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>>6834389
I think Boku Girl was a victim of its own success. It was reasonably popular and as a result it kept going even though the author had nothing substantial to write about. This is a manga that would have benefited from being around a third as long as it ended up being.
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>>6833074
Character designer should have his hands broken.
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>>6833581
I believe Unbalance School Life is the only gender bender manga running right now? It's amusing enough for what its worth. Different take on the feminization aspect; it's the non-gender bent guy who's being eroded. At least Variable Heart's coming out soon.

There's a couple of gender bender manga that have yet to be fully scanlated, Mao Marimo and Haikyo Circle, that seemed promising, in terms of being a serious gender bender work.

One day, I'll get up off my ass and order them off Japanese Amazon.

There's a couple short comedy gender benders that are pretty shallow, but might be amusing; Otome no Iroha, which is the rare focus on FtM, and Seijou Kouchakan no Jijou. This is the product of scouring some site's gender bender category, through countless manga about crossdressing. I hate how annoying that makes looking for out and out gender bending is.

I feel like I've reached the bottom of the barrel for gender bender manga. I'm still waiting for Tiger Dragon Brothers to get serialized, which may well never happen. Now it's just relying on the occasional hentai to come out.

Oh and there's also Ame Nochi Hare, which I haven't read. Shishunki Bitter Change also, but that's technically body swap.
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>>6834654
I've read or touched most of all those you listed except two I think.

Every so often I use Batoto and skim the last few dozen "gender bender" manga but it's like if someone even toes the line of gender ambiguity they toss the tag in. So lots of crossdressing, traps, reverse traps, etc. Makes it annoying to find one specific genre.
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>>6834727
>>6834727
Yeah, I mean I get that crossdressing and androgyny is technically gender bending in a broad sense, but it'd be nice if it they could be tagged a bit more specifically.

I'm sure crossdressing fans don't want to read transformation stuff either.
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>>6834654
I think that Back Street Girls, which is about 3 failed yakuza members who are forced to undergo sex change operations and then become idols, is still going on. Though it isn't getting translated and also I prefer stories where the character actually transforms into a girl.

I agree that Otome Otome no Iroha and Seijou Kouchakan no Jijou were pretty shallow. I found the former's story that was about punishing the characters for not adhering to their gender roles kind of dumb, while I thought that the latter's setup was uninteresting.

Tiger Dragon Brothers looked like a simplistic battle shonen with gender bender thrown in, so if it ever got made into a manga I think it would take a shallow approach to the transformation similar to say Ranma instead of doing anything interesting with it.

Ame Nochi Hare is good. Mao Marimo and Haikyo Circle both seemed pretty promising, though I found Shishunki Bitter Change to be pretty boring. Very little happens and the characters don't seem to change even though thanks to timeskips they spend years in each others' bodies.

I'm really looking forward to Variable Heart, though since it takes place a few years after Mai transformed and decided to live as a woman, it will presumably not follow the standard genderbender story formula and it is likely to have Mai behaving like a normal girl. Not that this is a bad thing, since we already saw Mai adjusting in Remix Heart and there's no need for them to retread that.
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>>6834765
I've found some good, weird shit under the gender bender tag I wouldn't have otherwise.

But they need like subcategories. Gender Bender - Transformation. Gender Bender - Clothes. Gender Bender - Ambiguous/Androgynous

Not like super detailed, but you can search the main category or a sub category. Most places would benefit from some finer tooling of the searches desu

>>6835014
I wanna see Mai having taken some major steps forward as her new self, with some remaining awkwardness.
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>>6831036
>>6831040
>>6831050
What a cute rape story
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>>6823816
Natsuru is my waifu. Sexiest girl ever. Her or Shizuku.
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>>6834376
I want to create a manga or something to where the main character is a guy who gets turned into a shrine maiden, or something like that. but they start mentally shifting into a girl as well, where they lose themselves to their new personality. Ranma was great. But make it to where kind of like Natsuru would turn at inconvenient times. turning into a girl because of like a virus or genetic mutation. The change could have potential incomplete changes. Maybe the person maintains their voice, or they have tiny tits, like a guy or masculine features, or they become a futanari or cuntboi. Both mtf and ftm gender bend. I love tg caps And tf. I got into this stuff as a kid with ranma, naruto, kampfer, a flash animation, with link turning into a big titted girl called Linket. She squeezes her new boobies and they make a squeaky toy sound. And giggles and says bewbs :3 it was funny. Then the fact I wanted to be a girl as a kid too, was that way literally from 7 or 8 years old. or earlier. Watching it kind of let me put myself in the protagonist shoes.
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>>6834654
>I believe Unbalance School Life is the only gender bender manga running right now?
There's Osananajimi wa Onnanoko ni Naare. It's pretty stupid, but cute.
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>>6836650
That one is already finished, it's just the scanslations that are running behind.
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>>6836766
How does it end?
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Didn't see this mentioned, but Maken Ki! the OVA 2 has a gender bender with the MC.
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>>6835546
Songs hot af, go for it
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>>6835546
You have to be above 18 to post here dude. This was a very akward post.
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>>6834654
There are always multiple gender bender manga running, the trouble is they usually suck aisde from the fetish hook.

>>6827461
I hated the loney tunes hammer space motifs of old manga like Ranma. It was good for its time, and is still a good gag manga, but don't expect drama or anything really interesting.

>>6833581
Good list, but tsukiyo no fromage never went anywhere and was such shit that even the author gave up on writing it.

Fukigen Cinderella was one of the best ever. Japanese readers have shit tastes, ("it's too edgy so I'm not buying another volume!") and the author sucked at ending it though.

>>6833591
I loved Jinzou Shoujo.

>>6834314
Am I the only one who didn't care for boku girl? I liked the idea, facial expressions and Loki,but the MC was so stupid I gave it up around chapter 20 or so.

Blue drop/ balance policy is nice. I love that author's tg work, which is set in the countryside where a best friend turns into a sexy girl.

>>6834654
You can buy stuff digitally too. Shinshunki was boring, even for me and I like body swaps.

>>6828580
>Nozomu Nozomi
I thought it was cute.

>sekai aimasho
Should have ended sooner. The super homo works turn me off too, and the giant female suitor fights annoyed me.

>idol pretender
I seem to remember it was crossdressing? I have a hard copy but I haven't read it for years.

>>6823723
Technically any of the videogame nekama qualify. SAO's kirito, Log Horizon's Akatsuki, "there are no girls who play video games" anime.

Milk cure, trans-trans and Neverland de Tsukamaete, are good examples of nekama in manga.
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>>6823899
I had found this manga a lot ago and I got very turned on as I kept reading it
Don't know at what point it is right now but things were getting pretty sexual at a certain point
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>>6837632
I liked that in Tsukiyo no Fromage the MC actually lived as a girl surrounded by other girls. I prefer that to the "genderbent MC lives with male best friend until they become lovers" setup.

I too didn't like Boku Girl. I agree that the protagonist was way too dumb. Also the manga dragged on and there was no story progression for ages. Both it and Sekainohate de Aimashou should have been shorter.

Idol Pretender was genderbender. It was badly paced and the male lead was rather badly handled, but I thought it was decent.

Personally I'm not interested in series where a character pretends they are the opposite sex online. That's just a role they play after all; I prefer it when they fully turn into the opposite sex and then have to adapt to living the part.

By the way, what did you think of Remix Heart?
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>>6828716
It is weird because I wanted to be a girl before I even knew what sex was about or that trans people existed. I just thought it was my weird thing.
I even had dreams at 8 years old and leaving my life and live like a girl.
I am just to scared to tell this to anyone.
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>>6837746

Tsuki no fromage had the worst non-ending. Author literally fi ished promising a continuation and yet...

Remix heart was derivative from a fighting game, I avoid such derivatives.

Well the manga I listed where they are okama generally has them stuck in those worlds (potentially fprever). When you achieve the level of virtual reality in those games like Farafella, it's more real than role play. But yeah, I can't get into skinsuits because you always think they 're not really girls and can take it off.

Ore to hero to mahou shoujo is another genderbent one in canon, like boku no hero academia. It is less stale than joshishougakusei hajimemashita.
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>>6837890
Remix Heart is a prequel and can be read and understood on its own. I think it's worth reading; it's pretty short and I liked it more that many other titles. The MC becomes a girl permanently, together with other girls gradually adapting to it and eventually becomes a girl in both mind and body and falls in love with a male student.

Ore to Hero to Mahou Shoujo was OK, but it is a comedy series where the MC transforms to fight rather than going any further.
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>>6824537
Wait, when the fuck did Rock from Black Lagoon turn into a girl?
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>>6837924
In a DVD extra.
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>>6837924
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpQGmd9cuF4
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>>6843918
Why even Bump this thread? Two times it didn't got any replies and went to page 10. If you really want to talk about it, there is already a TG thread up.
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>>6823873
http://stfan.free.fr/

This is pretty much every Ranma 1/2 erotic fanfiction out there
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>>6828716
Female privilege.
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>>6828716
Like that other anon, a lot of it for myself is female privileged. I'm a charismatic guy and have a lot of achievements and really enjoy succeeding in the things I've attempted, and aside from probably a bunch of other reasons, the idea of being considered a bigger success even then because I did all of those things as a female is pretty appealing. Along with the flat advantages that female privilege would bring otherwise.
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>>6843918
>"DERP!"
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>>6828807
>>6828810
>>6828812
>>6828813
sauce?
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>>6828723
>transgender
>not a fetish

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>>6824537
What was the name of that anime where the girls pick their gender at adolesence? Kinda backwards, but whatever...
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>>6847376
I'm pretty certain it's Simoun.
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>>6847670
Yeah, this.

I've tried to watch it ages ago but it was a pretty boring setting for being filled with lesbians and robots.
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>>6837764
It's quite a common thing, call it curiosity. Part of what attracts you to women.
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I kinda suspect that we will have this character (minus the enormous breasts) in a supporting role in the coming Granblue Fantasy anime.
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>>6823907
>>6823808
what have this of canon?
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>>6847900
Pokemon had a bit of crossdressing going on.
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>>6847900
And then there is James/Kojirou...
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>>6847361

I am mighty saucy. You might even say I am the sauce.

(My shitty blog that I need to finish the html on: http://sexyshadowy.tumblr.com/)
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>>6848216
continue thiiiiiis
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>>6824617
Belldandy's a lying whore.
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>>6828716
I'm just curious about how it'd feel to be a girl for a bit.
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Laharl turns into a girl in Disgaea D2 so it's canon


>>6850527
What game is this referencing
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>>6851970
Could be any generic RPG or TRPG with equipment materials and enhancement numbers.
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>>6851970

>>6852005
damn
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>>6833074
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>>6847259
>>6847297
OK, help the dumb guy out... what's "female privilege"?

(bear in mind I stay away from political shit online whenever I can, and I've heard the term "________ privilege" before, but I'm still clueless as to what it really, truly means)
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>>6852307
Girls get attention for their looks.
Guys get the cold shoulder even from girls who are attracted.
A girl can make herself pretty by wearing interesting clothes in a wide variety. That's basically impossible for men.
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>>6852340
That only works if you're not a fatty

Fat guys have it easier than fat chicks
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>>6852344
They care less about that in Japan. But yeah use your imagination to make a list of things that females have an advantage at in society, ad you're set. Writing them all would take too much time and its open to too much debtate.

>>6824537
Sorting this alphabetically by character name rather than by series was a bad idea imo. These pictures always struck me as chaotic messes. Who looks at one and decides without any knowledge of series premise, "I like that anime face and I will try to read it now."

>>6824552
>>6824598
Why not try to separate the hentai from the non-ero manga? Generally doujins being ero? The erotic content is practically limitless, and infinitely expanding like the cosmos.

>>6834727
Yeah that's annoying on manga updates too. I find it hard to keep up with the latest non-h series. The ero ones are easier since they get posted on ero galleries with accurate tagging.

>>6847677
Your taste sucks and you need to be patient. Simoun gets pretty good near the end, even if its not really
gender bender. I've watched it twice for the timeless singing lesbians flying through the sky, and its art.
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>>6831036
>>6831040
>>6831050
Not just that but a few other hilarious situations like the dream chapter/mini-arc where he falls in love with his female version (dressed as a haremgirl).
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>>6836772
>How does it end?
The scripts for the translations already exist, it's just that the person in charge of putting adding the text to the RAWs has been lagging behind.

I would post the ending in spoiler tags but they don't work here.

It's still worth a ride as the fact of him ending up as a woman or staying a dude is less relavant in that case (as the show is mostly a gag manga, not a romance).

Pic of the cover may or may not be misleading.

One Easter Egg the author hid in th manga: the genderbender's mother is herself strongly hinted to be a character from an earlier genderbender comic he made (back when he wasn't professionally publishing)
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>>6837632
>SAO's kirito,
Kirito explicitly doesn't count given his skin is explicitly male (even if it is an extremely girly trap skin).

You are right that videogames should also be considered (aswell as "guys playing as girl characters" in manga/anime/light novels).
Just not the greatest example.
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>>6852344
>Fat guys have it easier than fat chicks
Ugly guys have it easier too.
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>>6828716
curiosity. listen, were deviants, were fucked up a little bit, our interests may or may not be outside the norm but their not publicly accepted. We our interested in things that are different. We have women, something we grow up with, love, are always around, but completely different from us physically, socially and mentally. Another type of body that us (mostly male here) are born to pleasure.

We, as men, are of course insatiably curious about that. Were just also very sexual here.
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This tread doesn't seem to believe in twintails.
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>>6853222
That was an abortion of a series and best forgotten.
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>>6853257
>Get into it for that one scene in episode 12
>It's never mentioned after the fact
>Not even a "btw everyone is okay"
>The end of the episode involves random preschoolers instead
To say nothing about how they resolved the gender identity issue arc. So much potential was wasted.
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>>6853113
Women don't have to be funny to get laid.
http://youtu.be/I7izJggqCoA
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>>6853385
What one scene? I love TG shit and I couldn't even get past episode 1
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>>6853433
Here's an image of it. There used to be a webm of the whole scene with sound, but I've since lost it.

Despite the use of "girlyboys" in these subs, he really is talking about TG.
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>>6853466
So crunchyroll made another bad translation eh?
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>>6853385
>gender identity issue
I'm about 99% sure that was not what was going on.
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>>6853496
Yeah I know, it was about twintails. (Spoilers if you care)

I'm just disappointed that they never did anything with the fact that Souji's transformation(s) is exactly what the villain wanted. In fact, he was completely unaware that Souji was a guy, or the effects his curse had on him.

At the end in the dream sequence, they depicted Souji's male form growing twintails, just as he accepted himself as a man that loved twintails. But rather than show that to the villain, he gets lol 2sword and it just ends on "twintails rule!!!"

This early scene (same subs) pretty accurately depicts the build up. http://youtu.be/PyPgH5XJlqI
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>>6853113
I already knew this was true
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>>6836977
Lol was reminiscing. Older than 18 anyhow now
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>>6853556
Twintails was an over the top series. I don't mean good story wise or anything like that. I mean it was crazy, funny,
At least to me, and overly stupid. The enemies were all cheesy hentai stereotype enemies. That made it kind of funny to me. Arachnegildy was funny to watch, kneeling before aika about her delicious flat chest.
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>>6853466 >>6853496
Pretty sure that the Japanese dub said "otokonoko", so girlyboys is correct.

>>6853556
The series was a stupid harem/tokusatsu fusion with no budget and a twintail obsession. It had a dense harem MC who can't realize that all the beautiful women surrounding him are desperate for his dick even when they literally try to rape him. The only inner conflict the MC is allowed is posing the question "do I love twintails enough" with the answer being inevitably "yes". And the transformation is merely a gimmick that's there to provide more fanservice rather than leading to something more. This series somehow managed to be worse than Kampfer.
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No shit.
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Ok. Read through Boku Girl and I really liked it. What next?
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>>6858010
Jerk off to the good stuff on Fictionmania and TGStorytime
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>>6858041

It's finding the good stuff that's hard.
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>>6858070
What kind of stuff do you like? Do you want the protag to suck 999999 dicks immediately after his change, or you prefer the slow burn with lots of pretty clothes and salon appointments?
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>>6823723
god i need more of stuff like this but with actual canon sex.
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>>6858079

Actually I'm more in to the humiliation aspect.And being placed into awkward positions.
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>>6858010
See:
>>6828580
>>6833581
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>>6828716
Pure fetish for me.
Real trannies are disgusting.
That KND episode with boys turning into girls fucked me up.
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>>6827758
Ranma 1/2 is probably the deepest comedy series Takahashi made. Inu Yasha was downhill. But, Ranma is on two levels only one of which is accessible to moat people.

The series is actually a study in machismo and hinor. At first glance the characters are quirky to fulfill Takahashi's comedy. What makes it eerie is when one realizes the characters act consistently and their comedic quirks are the result of deep-seated psychological scars. Another eerie point is that there is a razor-thin edge between death that the main characters laugh off. The series gets midly darker as it progresses as a result of the characters psychological issues. I think Takahashi had to leave it without everyth in ng being resolved because it's hard to imagine everyone getting out alive.

The curses are all indicative of the characters inner selves. Genma is a lazy punk - panda. Ryouga would (and tries to) bang any girl that offers - pig. Mousse's unwavering fidelity to Shampoo is symbolized in the duck, Shampoo us a cat cause she's a slut. Ranma is a girl because what Ranma really wants is to be loved and have luxuries. You can see it when he abuses his female form and in how he strings along all the girls to avoid causing rejection or pain.

But, most people don't read that deep and assume the characters are quirky for comedy and not that Takahashi is doing a character study on all of them. If you watch her other work you know she usnt that shallow.
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>>6862364
You're overanalyzing like crazy. Ranma is a gag manga and all the characters are extremely simplistic. They don't operate like actual human beings.
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>>6862594
I think you underestimate the shallowness of actual human beings.
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>>6862618
Ranma characters are caricatures. They have a couple of traits that define them and that's it. Plus, they all at best behave like psychopaths rather than something resembling a normal human being.
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>>6862364
No offense intended but if you go looking for deeper meaning you'll find it. It's a good gag manga, no doubt, and the characters are well formed. Curses aren't just given willy-nilly like being thrown at a dart board.

But they also aren't deep psychological studies. A character being well formed does not mean anything more.

Sometimes the duck is just a duck.
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>>6862364
Maison Ikkoku was way deeper than Ranma. Especially the fact that Kyoko renamed her dog after her dead husband. The whole series indicates the characters were psychologically damaged in one way or the other, especially Kyoko and Kozue
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>>6860374
Holy shit, me too. I came back to watch that episode, specifically when that KND leader was muttering boy objects and hobbies and when the laser hit him his last words were "dollies". I felt so fucking guilty.

I eventually stopped watching it but it just hit me not a year or two later I started getting into this fetish. Though I'll note that like the anon I'm quoting, this is 100% fetish and I'm serious when I say I'm entirely straight, at least in my head if anon wants to disagree.
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>>6862624
>Ranma characters are caricatures. They have a couple of traits that define them and that's it.

Not at all. The characters have complex motivations and they're explored through the stories. There are one-off gag villians but the characters that stay through multiple volumes are developed.

>Plus, they all at best behave like psychopaths rather than something resembling a normal human being.

This is true. The characters of Ranma have very abnormal psychology. However, many of them walk the line of life and death regularly (the life of a martial artist is fraught with peril) and their craziness is the result of that.

Ryouga, for instance, suffers from a gag that makes him lack a sense of direction. While funny, it's deeply troubling to him. He is so unable to have a lasting relationship because of this that he fixates on the only classmate to show him kindness and engages in a very serious, dangerous rivalry because honor and martial arts leaves him no other way to interact with Ranma. He obsesses with Akane for the same reason as Ranma - Akane's the first girl to ever be nice to him. Yet, for all his professed love of Akane he attempts to bone Ranma everytime Ranma puts on a disguise to trick him. Eventually, he leaves with Akari simply because she's willing to initiate the relationship and Akane wasn't. Ryouga drops the girl he pined for over 2/3rds of the series because some other girl would put out. That's why he's a pig but it also depicts some serious abandonment issues.

Thus, Takahashi takes her gag defect (no sense of direction) and builds a character that would naturally result. It's fun to watch and it is that deep if you actually read the comic and pay attention to what Ryouga does.

That's just one example. I'm not saying better character studies haven't been done but I don't think anyone ever managed to make it as funny and as intense at the same time. It's a martial arts comedy that, if you read between the lines, is really a tragedy.
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>>6863177
What complex motivations are those? Ranma's motivation is to beat everyone in the "martial art" of the week.

Plenty of people have fought in long wars and they aren't as deranged as Ranma characters. Their behavior has nothing to do with how humans act. Even non-combatants are nuts, such as Ranma's mother who keeps trying to decapitate her son because she thinks he isn't manly enough.

By the way, since when did Ryoga have honor? He's a stalker who disguises himself and spends time with the girl he obsesses over, even bathing and sleeping with her. In one arc he tries to use a magic item to make Akane fall in love with him. After he accidentally uses it on Ranma he decides to murder a non-resisting Ranma, thinking that Akane will fall in love with him once he informs her that he has murdered him.

You're taking a gag manga with shallow caricatures and try to imagine it some sort of deep character study. This is a gag manga aimed at elementary schoolers, it's not Dostoevsky.
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>>6863209
>What complex motivations are those? Ranma's motivation is to beat everyone in the "martial art" of the week.

Ranma's motivation is to be loved. Martial arts was the first thing that got him friends and acceptance (Furinkan, etc.) His neediness is why he actively works to string along all the ladies and what's interesting is that actual sexuality makes him uncomfortable - he just wants the ladies after him, not to actually get anything from them other than a stroked ego.

>Plenty of people have fought in long wars and they aren't as deranged as Ranma characters.

True, and others are far more deranged. This isn't really a point.

>Their behavior has nothing to do with how humans act.

I disagree but you haven't really given support for your point.

>Even non-combatants are nuts, such as Ranma's mother who keeps trying to decapitate her son because she thinks he isn't manly enough.

Nodoka is interesting and complicated but, yes, she is nuts. Would most fanatically devoted wives with lying husbands that abandon them handle it well?

>By the way, since when did Ryoga have honor?
Takahashi's point (which I don't agree with, but her point nonetheless) is that male honor doesn't exist - it's just a pretense. Hence, Ryouga follows it when it is socially visible and ignores it when he won't get caught - like all the characters, albeit in different ways.

>ou're taking a gag manga with shallow caricatures and try to imagine it some sort of deep character study. This is a gag manga aimed at elementary schoolers, it's not Dostoevsky.

Dostoevsky it is not, I agree. However, it is far deeper than most of the stuff put out today and exceedingly deep for it's genre. Why do you hate on it so much?
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>>6853201
>>6860374
>>6853113
Obviously.

It's a fetish.

It's actually oriented more around vanity and narcissism than anything else, for me.

Male brain in female body. Shit would be hot as fuck. Perma switch would suck IRL but I get off on it of course.
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>>6831875
>Speaking of longform romance+Feminization and canon Genderbending...
... Yes?

As someone who also really really enjoys that type of shit I would really like you to finish that sentence.
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>>6828807
>>6828810
>>6828812
>>6828813

That shit is dope, anon. Do you have a tumblr or something where you post artwork?
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>>6863437
The best is when the character's mind gradually becomes female as well.
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>>6863573

The layouts pretty bleh but: http://sexyshadowy.tumblr.com/
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>>6863569
Have you never read Eroe's Shinyuu to Seitenkango series?

http://g.e-hentai.org/g/805313/1e9e00b490/

You're in for a treat...
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Does Boku Girl count as canon genderbend?
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>>6862364
>But, most people don't read that deep and assume the characters are quirky for comedy and not that Takahashi is doing a character study on all of them.

You sound like my father when he tried to convince me the Peanuts gag comic had depth, when I told him I thought it was stupid. He said every character was a character study too. Or I could put it like this: you sound like a fanboy who wants to pretend a mediocre series like theology. Ranma 1/2 ran for years, and I'm not impressed that the author managed to create some interesting personalities and interactions over a long period. Fukigen Cinderella was shorter and much more interesting psychologically speaking though.

Btw I'm not dissing on the classics without reading them. My first manga collection was Ranma 1/2, but in hindsight those were the dark ages of ignorance. I can't get into shounen, gag manga, or crude 80's art now.
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>>6862624
>>6863177
>>6863209
>>6863324
spot the difference between people who read the manga and watched the anime
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>>6863324
Where do you get that Ranma wants to be loved? He's simply incredibly proud and can't stand it unless he's #1 at everything. And the "romance" in Ranma are what you'd expect from kindergarteners. We are never given any sign that Ranma's mother was driven mad by her bum husband. You're once again building castles on clouds.

>>6864325
Are you saying I didn't read the manga because I think the characters are simplistic? If you actually bothered to read what I wrote you'd realize I read it since I'm referring to arcs that never got animated.
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>>6864362
> ART CANNOT AND MUST NOT EVER BE INTERPRETED!! >8C
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>>6864400
You remind me of an incident where a guy forgot a bag, I believe it was in Tate Modern, and people thought it was a work of art that signified something. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
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>>6831036
Came for the tg, stayed and read the rest of the story. pretty interesting
>>6834654
Reminded me of pic
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/933803/efc99cde42/
I hope MC gets tg too eventually
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>>6864325
You can interpret whatever you want from it, just don't tell us that it's the intention or some deeper aspect that is meant to be from the author.

Hell I recall hearing a quote about Takahashi being asked if Ranma could get pregnant, with her responding she doesn't think about it and neither should we.

If this were a work she intended on some level to be serious, that's a major thing to consider and examine.

But like I said, if you want to interpret it, do it however you please. If you glean some insight into the universe, enjoy yourself. But please quit preaching that we're idiots for missing things never intended to be there. No, art doesn't have to intend something for it to provide commentary. Some good stuff is accidental. But Ranma was never intended, and in my read of it barely more than the deep end of the public pool.

Maybe up to your neck if you try, but not really over your head.
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>>6828735
Yeah, but people (in a TG thread no less) bitching about transgender people merely being here is easily and readily accepted. Oh, but countering the idea that transgenderism is in and of itself a fetish is destroying these threads. Gotcha.
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>>6864745
Some pretty weak b8 there m8

Responding to something three weeks old too.

1/10, cause I did reply. Have some titties
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>>6864772
Massive Mai mammaries.
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>>6864776
UQ, I hope to high heavens you write something Ranma related someday. I know you got a lot on your plate from /efg/, but you're my favorite writer there.
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>>6864362
>Where do you get that Ranma wants to be loved? He's simply incredibly proud and can't stand it unless he's #1 at everything.

The reversal jewel arc explains a lot of it. His need for the girls to love him. Remember that, at the beginning, the only thing Ranma cares about is martial arts - he had no need to be #1 at everything - just that one thing. He tells his dad he has no time for a fiancee.

As the series progresses Ranma actually develops a relationship with Akane (a disfunctional one) based on him trying to relate to her in the same way he relates to his dad (because that's the only relationship he's had) which consists of hurling insults. Of course, Akane gets pissed because she doesn't realize that's the only way Ranma knows how to have a real relationship. The reason Ranma doesn't hurl insults at the other girls is because he doesn't have a real relationship with Shampoo and Ukyo; whatever repoire he manages with Ukyo is based on their childhood friendship and him treating her like a schoolmate.

>And the "romance" in Ranma are what you'd expect from kindergarteners.

Some characters are kindergarten level inept because of hyper-focus on martial arts (Ranma, Akane, Ryouga, Ukyo) others have foreign ideas of relationships (Shampoo, Mousse) and still others are hung-up on what the media sells you is love to an obsessive degree (Kuno, Kodachi)

>We are never given any sign that Ranma's mother was driven mad by her bum husband.
Nodoka being pushed into accepting the seppukuk pact? Her wandering the streets looking for her husband? Her excusing her husband's conduct when he's a theiving good-for-nothing?
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>>6864408
Look, some people write fluff, but if you read Takahashi's earlier works, it's clear that she is capable of and prefers to write deeper. To say she just stopped understanding her characters is ridiculous. To say she let her depth take a back seat to gags - sure. That's why the depth in Ranma takes a few readings to notice. I also believe she ended the series where she did because it will end up with either the Amazons or Tendos dead by the end of it. Hardly an acceptable conclusion for an 80s manga. Today she might've been allowed to draw the bloodbath that would fully conclude the piece... but I don't think she wanted to. I think her characters wrote her into a corner as things kept progressing more and more violently.
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Ranko would be the prefect life partner. Strong, beautiful, interesting sex, a guy friend comes with the deal as well.

She was probably my first serious animated crush and waifu.I jerked off to sailor scouts and Dragonball girls before her, true, but she was the first I wanted to have for myself.
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>>6858041
I was meaning to ask. There are places like you mentioned, there that huge-ass st. fan Ranma lemon archive, but I've yet to find a site dedicated to futanari/shemale stories. Is there one? Also maybe some sort of huge archive that doesn't ban loli and shota? Please don't say Asstr though, that thing is unnavigatable, now that the search function broke, literally so.
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>>6864817
It's a goddamned joy to hear praise like this.

I DO have an idea for a Ranma smut fic, but I will be honest it's straight up BDSM lesbians. I just don't trust myself to write it because I don't understand the "scene" and the power plays completely, but since I have a vision for it anyways I might give it a try.
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>>6837632
What's the author/title of the image you posted, good sir?
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>>6865034
I second this request. I don't read much Fictionmania because they ban loli, and stories where kids have sex. It's the "think of the children, the imaginary children" fallacy. You will never read a good AR story on Fictionmania with minors in sexual situations or rape, unless it slips through the moderation.

Shadow has a controversial Ranma fansite, I think it's a paysite that comissions meh Western Ranma comics and puts them behind a paywall, while shamelessly pirating asian ones.

>>6864889
Or maybe she got tired of writing 36 volumes over ten years. Ranma 1/2 is shallow fluff, and she often ran out of ideas for tg and had to write wrestling filler. Get over the critique fanboy. It's no Berserk.
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>>6864817
>encouraging people to write fanfiction
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>>6865034
Here's my experience lately:

1. Fictionmania is now largely a site with sissification/crossdressing/humiliation stories with VERY LITTLE in the way of legitimate "guy turns into grill" stories. That's been the trend there for years. Granted not all of the stories are bad, but most of them aren't pure TG.

2. TG Storytime has more pure TG stuff.

3. Most stuff on both sites is total dogshit. Welcome to internet erotic fiction.

4. Can't help you in the realm of futa/shemale/loli stuff. There are a few stories here and there where the protag gets turned into a prepubescent girl but I've never seen one that has a sex scene... that kind of stuff does nothing for me so I don't actively seek it out.
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This one doesn't seem to be going over too well. Guess it is kind of a break from my usual approach, so maybe that's the problem, hmmm...
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>>6865560
It looks great to me but I can see a few reasons why.

The scene is very busy so it's hard to gather everything going on quickly, but to me her face looks the most awkward. It's very round and it doesn't scream "Ranma" to me. I love the heavy drool and everything else going on, especially the split she's doing, but if you took away the pigtail and context I'd have no clue I was looking at Ranma.

Granted the context and everything is odd anyways, but looking at your other depictions Ranma has a sharper chin which is a bit more recognizable?
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>>6865584

I was doing an experiment with blending brushes and trying to capture an oilpaint kinda feel; I may have gotten so caught up in the approach that I screwed up. And I probably did get too ornate on a lot of parts.

Also, doing a face from a low perspective is an area where I'm not strong, so that might have been a mistake.
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>>6864772
Well it wasn't meant to target you in particular. It's just something that I noticed continually happening in these threads. So, uh....sorry?
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>>6865527
LOL, I'm an old bastard. I was trying to unearth gems way back when on a dial-up 56k. The awful shit I had to wade trough you wouldn't believe. Some haunt me to this day. I'm pretty sure some sick crazy fucks dream of reading the stories I've stumbled upon as an impressionable youth. And then there was stuff that makes My Immortal look competent. At least that gave me some laughs. Of course nothing kills you boner like realizing you're reading an OOC gay romance between oil rig worker Naruto and oil rig inspector Snape.

But the thing is, I did find gems time to time. Now people write less overall. There's much less crazy shit, but a lot less strokes of mad genius as well. Now it's almost impossible to find something wild and entertaining. In fact, you'll have an easier time finding a pic or a doujin, which is insane because those take talent and skill, anyone with an ounce of imagination can write a story. So where the fuck are they? Am I not hip and with it anymore and looking in the wrong places?

Futa is insanely popular, loli is moderately popular. Rule 34 of certain shows is trough the roof. There are more pics of new and exciting or previously rare fetishes than ever. How come there are so few good fics? This doesn't make sense.

You'd think there would be a hefty site for futa or a major archive site that wouldn't ban loli fics.

As for TG stories on those sites. It bothers me that often that's the only fetish present. Like they expect people to get off on this one thing. Without mixing it up with other fetishes, supplementing it with story or at least implementing it in a creative way. "I used to be a guy, but now I'm a girl and having sex" only takes you that far. They somehow manage to make a intermediate fetish read like vanilla.
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>>6865452
LOL; you like Berserk better for story? The comic is gorgeous, no doubt, but Golden Age is just a complete rip off of the Reinhardt storyline from Legend of the Galatic Heroes.

On the other hand, I agree than Ranma is no Legend of the Galatic Heroes but, Galatic Heroes was an epic not a comedy. Likewise, even Berserk is from a more serious genre and it couldn't even make up its own characters, at least not at first.
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OP here
holy shit the thread is still alive
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>>6865642
threads often last a month on /d/
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>>6865560
This has a number of small things that could be improved upon:
>Ranko is already a demon/succubus here — different. So covering her face isn't the best move. Also some familiarity cues would help: a recognizable outfit, item or a background from the show perhaps.
>The demon isn't helping this, him being OC makes your brain jump to the idea that the girl could be an OC as well. Maybe use a demon from the show? Didn't it have some? Or maybe even a demon from another of Rumiko's works: Inuyasha had a boatload.
>The demons face: whatever expression that is, it doesn't belong in porn. Maybe even scrap the face, it would look at home in an illustration of a Greek tragedy.
>The angle is difficult, very dynamic, doable on it's own, but maybe too much to couple with a difficult composition AND difficult poses. Each of these is a challenge on it's own. Together it creates a picture that makes your brain work to comprehend it.
>Finally, right bottom corner diagonally is too busy: the cock, the cloth on the cock that makes it look like it's sprouting out of nowhere, the seals, the demon's tail, her hand placing the seals, the spikes, his wings, the tentacles, whatever that is that's happening to her ass — this draws all the blood back to the brain because it needs it to compute this array of visuals.

>>6865610
The colors seem fine, although the texture isn't something I consider well suited for porn, it's pleasant. Would be more at home in a fantasy/adventure or alien jungle planet setting.
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>>6865652

I suppose I did get uh... a little ambitious here. In any case, thanks for the critique. I'm not sure if I can fix it without ruining the piece, but at the least I can keep it in mind for the future.
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>>6852307
Not familiar with the term myself, but I'd guess being able to express difficult emotions other than anger in public, being able to make statements with clothing and hairstyle that aren't just flimsy versions of "I don't care," and not having to be the defacto dominant/active role in social interactions. Basically all kinds of stuff that's very human but we decided wasn't masculine at some point. Shit that's oppressive to women kind of serves as a double edged sword unless you're lucky enough to naturally be exactly the kind of masculine dude that basically nobody is or became without a lot of nudging and prodding from society.
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>>6865560
I feel like her breast on the left should be more stretched/deformed by the things pressing against it. I mean these things are soft. The dick also seems to be floating in space. Doesnt come together in 3D space but what do I know.

>>6865617
Why do people write less now? Is it because we web surf less? Then are we less curious now? Do we assume there's so much tg out there that we think we can just use google to find the kind of story we want, minus a few details? Then we are lazy.

But yeah, I think the erotic websites are so unsearchable and hard to find good stuff (bad or no rating systems) that we gave up.

Loli is moderately popular, but hardly anyone translates the erotic gender bender with loli. Or writes it outside of deviant art which is the lowest tier where High School and community college students energetically share Babby's first transformation story.

>Like they expect people to get off on this one thing.

They're probably so new to tg that regular vanilla tg is super edgy erotica for them.
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>>6865452
There are some "grandfathered" stories in there before the policy took palce. Ed Miller's The Ring is an example. Everyone in there is 14.
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Btw whoever who says there isn't much gender bender lately has not been paying much attention to doujins.

I'm browsing dlsite's girls section with the 性転換 and finding dozens of doujins that have never been shared. Then I go back to the all ages section and find more. Then I go to the seinen section and find more.

I am guessing that many of you have been focusing on only the seinen for erotica. But there is a lot of erotica in the girl's section too.
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>>6865782
You sound real gynocentric. How about instead of viewing it as "shit that's oppressive to women kind of serves as a double edged sword," and instead see it for what it is; a set of privileges and burdens for both males and females.
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>>6865914
If I had to guess, there's less writing now because the initial influx has long passed. When the internet was first a thing, shit was too slow for videos, or even pictures sometimes. Stories were a real alternative. They were really popular. It also offered people, for the first time, a place to share their stories with the whole world and have thousands read them.

Nowadays, people are too lazy to read — why bother when they can watch a vid, and the initial wave of writers is passed. So we get much less people who are also much less motivated to write.

And then there's the fucking censorship. I can only assume people who are concerned for drawings and fictional children have some sort of aggressive for of super-autism. But they have successfully managed to turn off a large number of artists and writers. There are a lot of people who used to draw loli or shota, but don't anymore because they kept getting harassed and flagged.

Making internet so accessible and easy to use was a mistake. I liked the net more before it was flooded with normalfags. The rise of reporting and the whole "baw this offends my feelings, so delete it" movement was a terrifying blow to fun as well. And now even 4chan is moderated like a fucking christian youth forum and full of moralfags. I loved the net when it was the wild west. It's sad to know that we won't see that again and probably a lot of people on here didn't see it in it's glory. That time when it became fast, but not yet castrated by concerned moralfags and corporations.
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>>6866082
>even 4chan is moderated like a fucking christian youth forum and full of moralfags.

Yes, that must be why /pol/fags are allowed to invade literally every thread on the entire site and perpetually spam their stupid shit without having to worry about having posts deleted or being banned.
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>>6866116
>implying Christians care about violence or racism
Sex, m8, sex. Also 4chan was always a pit of racism, if anything, it became much, much better. Te use of the word "nigger" dropped at least by 90% from where it was 5 years ago.
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>>6866128
>4chan was always a pit of racism
/b/ was. Most other boards weren't, apart from the occasional "lol NIGGERS NIGGERS LOL jews did 9/11" post.

And that was all done in a joking manner, anyway. /pol/ is dead serious about the shit they post and they get ragingly triggered whenever people tell them to fuck off to their containment board.

Anyway, whatever... there are still plenty of smut writers out there, even though (apparently) they mostly don't cater to your specific fetishes. You might have to expand your horizons a bit and/or visit the darker, less public parts of the web to find what you're looking for. Me, I'm perfectly satisfied with what's available on Fictionmania and TGST, even though you have to wade through a lot of garbage to find the good stuff.
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>>6866134
>visit the darker, less public parts of the web
lol, I'm not looking for illegal as fuck shit, negro. I doubt I'd find a regularly updating and well designed literary archive on there anyway. Just gore and Captain Planet.

>/pol/ is for real
No, they aren't. Try to have a serious discussion about ANYTHING on there, it's impossible. It's edgy teens and trolls trolling trolls. That's why they venture out: there's no one left to troll on their own board.

At best, I'd give you that few of them are people who are chocked by the SJW PC environment of real life and popular websites, so they come there to vent.
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The first page from Variable Heart got leaked today. We'll probably see the rest of the chapter within the next few days.
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>>6833074
(FAE)RIES!
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>>6866251
Damn Mai, those some nice... Zippers.
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>>6866309
Here's a clearer shot of her outfit.
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>>6866312
Well someone has become a lot more comfortable in their skin
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>>6866314
Girls in blazblue do tend to show quite a bit of skin. And Mai has been a girl for over 3 years by that point.
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>>6866318
Of course, I really did mean she was getting comfortable.

I'd like to see her with a s/o or boyfriend, since she was clearly leaning that way anyways.
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>>6866320
My guess is that Mai will still be in love with the guy she loved in Remix Heart but not in an actual relationship with him. Some fans hate it when female characters are in a canon relationship and the creators of media aimed for otaku tend to avoid offending them. But I suppose we'll need to wait for the manga to be released to find out.
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Let's have a couple of polls, shall we?

How far will you go if transformed (if something you want to do is missing, extrapolate in a reply):

http://www.strawpoll.me/10432770

What's you view on a guy who was transformed (might sound silly considering the thread, but maybe your fetish is only the process and not the result):

http://www.strawpoll.me/10432885
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>>6852340

It only seems that way because you probably neckbeard stare at women, women aren't actually attracted to you, you don't know how to dress.
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>>6824649
Oh my goddess
don't know what episode though
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>>6866753
K1 still had his cock and balls, so he was a dude with tits rather than a girl.
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>>6866082
Things have changed as well legally; plenty of places where it was legal to write about such things ten years ago now have made it an offence to do so equivalent with sexually assaulting someone.
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>>6866325

Ah otaku such a blight on this planet
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>>6866753

Fuck. I cant find the manga chapter! I used to have them a long ass time ago. Kenichi's gender change is extended for a few chapters in the manga.

Does anyone know what chapters they are?

But as a consolation prize here's the link to episode 20. The one with the genderbending.

I was going to post a youtube link. But something is wrong with the dubbing.

I think the youtube vid is playing at a faster speed. Sounds horrible.

So here's kissanime's link.

http://kissanime.animevibe.org/watch/ah-my-goddess-tv-episode-20/
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>>6866142
>he thinks /pol/fags aren't serious about what they post

oh man

should we tell him, guys?
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Here's a clearer image of Mai's new outfit.
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There is a r63 thread on /a/ right now.
http://boards.4chan.org/a/thread/142566372#top
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>>6832853
basically today wasn't safe, well it's fine.
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>>6831496
>I want akane/ranma BDSM story where Ranma is her slave
someone's taste to surpass metal gear!
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>>6832870
This is so fucking great too, Akane and Ranma need to communicate openly and theres room for both of them to develop on either side. The only enemy of a good plan is the dream of a perfect one. If you really are worried about stuff like proper concern based BDSM, you could also read general faq stuff on how that all works. Aftercare, communication, respect.

I also think you are selling yourself short by having Akane be the absolute weaker person. I think it'd be better for Akane to gain strength in a different way. The bdsm aspect is screaming for the martial arts and crafts treatment, with Akane learning a way of fighting Ranma isn't really privy to in order to come up ahead of her every time even though Akane is her physical inferior. With some bdsm paint job the core lesson is in psychology. Akane doesn't win by overpowering Ranma, but by making her think winning isn't worth it, making Akane the victor by default. Trussed up in BDSM elements, like humiliating Ranma during combats, doing perverted things, blackmailing with photos, giving her a first kiss in the middle of a fight. Even crazier things like using basic psychology to make Ranma feel endebted to Akane or make her have the perception of liking Akane more than she does at any given moment (an example of this is the old asking someone for a small favor gambit before the big one, they'll rationalize that they must like you enough to do favors or why spend the time when they would rather do what they want to?)

This also gives Ranma motivation to continue her slave training as Ranma will be humiliated by Akane's victories and want to do anything to come out on top of her. Akane could introduce BDSM through their victories. Akane doing this after the end of volume 38 could give her enough reason to go for broke and be less concerned with how her reputation is going to suffer as in the earlier volumes.
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>>6837764
easiest way to tell if you are trans is to just think about if you'd give up sexual pleasure entirely in order to be female and escape the facial hair, balding, flat figure, and gravelvoices. while trans people don't often have to deal with it, reduced sexual function is still a possible outcome of surgery and hormones, so it's a pretty apt thought experiment.
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>>6862364
Over all I agree with the comments detractors but the idea in any sense that Ranma characters are simplistic to the extreme and don't opperate like normal people is honestly horse shit if you examine Ranma or Akane. Most people are going to remember the Anime, where every side character was given more personality and Ranma and Akane were turned into 1 dimensional characters, but the actual manga gave them actual depth, I don't think that depth is very meaningful, but Ranma is pretty straightforward in terms of bryonic heros. and Akane herself has plenty of humanzing characterization as well, despite the enormous hate she gets becuase of the bitchqueen anime version.

There are obvious psychological scars underpinning the series characters as well, but these aren't focused on at all and it's a wonder if takahashi even understands that theyre in there. they are, but it's less about them being canon and more about understanding what a tree is. There are indeed trees in Ranma as well. the manga isn't about trees but theyre in there.
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>>6864883
>Nodoka being pushed into accepting the seppukuk pact? Her wandering the streets looking for her husband? Her excusing her husband's conduct when he's a theiving good-for-nothing?
Nodoka was not pushed into the seppuku pact, and if she cared for her child she wouldnt try to enforce it to begin with. Placing the blame on genma's feet is retarded. A honor contract like that simply isn't valid to begin with in civilized society. The fact that she excuses genma's theiving when she holds ranma on the edge of her blade makes her one of the most unlikable character's in the whole manga, and the only reason she seems to get away with it is the fact that Ranma cares about her opinion and not genmas so we are obliged to also be invested with his motivations.

But those of us with a working moral compass wont be, because what Nodoka does to Ranma is probably one of the most disgusting things a mother can do to a child. She makes Genma look like a halfway decent person.
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>>6865584
>>6865652
>>6865914

Well, trying to retouch the existing piece was a nonstarter, so I ended up doing a sketch of the same general concept while trying to keep this critique kinda in mind. Thanks for the help.

I really need to set aside some time to sit down and finish plotting out my dumb succubus Ranma ideas into something resembling a coherent plot and try scripting a comic or something around the idea.
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>>6867438
Well, the only previous critique that still stands is that she's not immediately recognizable as Ranma. But again, if you change the look, clothes and place of a character, there's no easy way to avoid that. You can consider making her hairdo a little more on-model perhaps, not sure how much that would help and how much you prefer her hair to be like they currently are (the slightly wild look she has going on in your pic with a thicker pigtail does suit her better than her canon hair in my opinion).

What is she wearing? Maybe it would pay off to have her wear her iconic Chinese dress or a succubus-magic sexualized variation of it that's still vaguely recognizable.

Check her position regarding the ground. Is she lying down flat on her back? Are the tentacles slightly lifting her? It's hard to really tell. It feels like she's hovering.

The whole crotch region seems a bit lacking in detail. Her vagina and buttocks in particular.

Other than that, what are her hands doing? Perhaps they should be either propping her up or doing that not-quite-rock-on sign, characters in Ranma 1/2 do when they are hit in comedic context or extremely surprised/flustered (pic related).
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>>6867346
>>6867334
Thank you.

I'm feeling more confident in the idea. It has to wait till I finish some other stuff, but I feel like I might be able to do it justice.

For Akane, I see it more that this is something where she's stronger than Ranma, and Ranma is weaker. Sexuality is something she can embrace more easily. Couple that with Ranma being a natural sub and her being a natural dom...

I just like the idea that she doesn't need to be the more powerful one, in a combat manner, to be the dominant one. I do really like the idea of her starting to use psychology to win her little bouts with him.

Maybe they're bickering and instead of hitting him, she slowly caresses his cheek and then gives him a sharp pinch. Maybe she draws in close so he's aware of how hot her breath is before she steps away.

Maybe she begins to consciously award him for being female. The interactions become more sensual, more intimate. When Ranma concedes to being wrong (or doesn't use names) he learns he gets even better "rewards". Maybe a soft kiss on the lips (as a girl) or a ruffled head (as a boy).

It starts getting more and more intense to the point that when Ranma hears Akane's voice or think she even might be around he starts turning into a girl. When he finds out Akane rewards even more intensively when he dresses like a girl, he starts putting on better fitting clothes.

Maybe it culminates in Akane whispering something to Ranma "put on something I'd like tonight"
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>>6867558

Hmmm... still a failure to depict, then (in more ways than one, it sounds). I'm gonna probably need to think about this for a bit then, since I may have designed my way into a corner on this.

Incidentally I was trying to harken back to this design and it's weird mutant backless Cheongsam >>6828812
You're probably right and I should drop that for something attempting to evoke the usual red Tangzhuang.
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>>6867584
I honestly feel this is missing some of akanes character. Akane is actually less suited to sex than ranma, and that is one of ranmas constant tools she uses in fights. The difference here is that ranma isnt expecting this from akane and while ranma has the confidence to use sexuality as a weapon, that weapon is a club. Akanes would be a spear, pinpoint accuracy that snaps through her gaurd at range. Akane just using seduction not only goes against her attitude, it also wouldnt work. Shampoo and ukyou constantly do that sort of thing, bdsm wise even ranma gets carried off more than akane.

I honestly dont empathise with akane being the weaker one in this respect but even if you keep it that way, i just dont see bow you can preserve her character while having her plan boil down to more gift giving and rewards for good bahavior. To have ranma go along with it uncritically is also a mark against her, as ranma is intelligent and suspicious by nature.
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>>6867590
I wouldn't scrap it, the hover issue is a quick fix if you just remove the ground and add a couple of more supporting tentacles so she would be held in the air.

The crotch are is also easily fixable without major overhauls.

>>6828812
Damn... the dress looks ridiculously good on her. I would have to actually renege on my position and say "fuck it" and vote for keeping it. You're already in OOC AU territory, might as well go all the way rather than scrapping something that nice.
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>>6867590
What you can try out, is make Ranma a little more on-model proportion and facial feature wise. Or rather younger: your Ranma looks like a fully matured woman in her early 20s. But 16yo Ranma is still quite the petite girl with a cute youthful face with large eyes.

But your succubus Ranma is perfectly sexy the way she is. I'm just suggesting an experiment.

The other thing you can do without having to change anything, is add other characters from the show. Like say instead of having an OC demon, have a demonized male character from the show. Or like I mentioned, something from Inuyasha.

Give me some background on this. Was Ranma sucked into a demon universe? Or is it an AU where everyone's a demon? It would be easier if I knew the backstory.
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>>6867598
Ranma uses flirtation and other things in fights and manipulation but I see it as really impersonal stuff. Ukyo and Shampoo are both clubs too, they're possessive. Akane is being alluring, she's rewarding. It's meant to be subtle, not even a spear. It's a lure.

Psychologically it's positive reinforcement, reward the behavior she likes and ignore the behavior she doesn't.

Honestly I'd have to make them OOC or at least out of canon to make this work at all. But I like the idea of it sparking with her seeing Ryoga spank Ranma-chan as she tries another "I'm your sister/cousin" thing. This gets them both hot and bothered and it sparks some sort of encounter that leaves them both thinking.

Akane seeks guidance and Ranma tries to bury it. Maybe Akane goes to Nabiki who turns her over to Kasumi(! cause it's more fun that way) and ends up walking away with some literature on BDSM/Psychology.

And it goes from there. I just like the idea of it being subtle behavior shaping. Even someone intelligent like Ranma has to recognize something as an attack to handle it.
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>>6867623
Well you wont have my interest, not that im anyone important. Ranma is the closest thing i have to a waifu so seeing her out of character isnt much fun for me.

As it stands, i dont believe that that spark fits the theme of what you are going for. You mentioned its more like a lure, well that doesnt really work with spanking at all. Spanking is punishment.

Its also worth noting that positive conditioning has already been done with ranma and akane. Taming of the horse managed it as a running name gag for several long running chapters. The main draw for a fantasy bdsm scenario is mostly unexplored in ranma. Youll have that at least. Kasumi seems like an interesting choice. But a subtle conditioning is just not a new fic
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>>6867651
People writing something before me has never stopped me from wanting to give it my own spin. I'm playing with ideas and these things go through multiple iterations. Maybe someone will write the story that interests you but it just might not be me.
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>>6867616

It's certainly worth trying, at least.

As for plot stuff, my initial plans were Ranma getting stranded in a Champions of Corruption like universe, yeah. I'm currently mulling over how to keep the rest of the major cast members involved without necessarily transplanting everyone. Also wrestling with writing, which I'm not very comfortable with.
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>>6867704

Honestly I should probably expand on this a bit more than above.

In this case, when I say CoC-esque I mean that the world in question is mired in some kind of corruption--sexy corruption--which has mental and physical transformative effects, which tend to be somehow sexual. Unlike CoC and similar games however, it's not picked up by things you consume, though corruptive force tends to get more built up in dense things, and the effects aren't necessarily tied to what you eat or drink; rather the corruption is an ambient effect. Just being in it gradually corrupts, so the effects can't be avoided, but they can be controlled.

It should be unsurprising with the above, but Ranma gets hit with a cursed mark which ensures that the corruptive effects will produce a succubus... eventually. I'm currently bouncing around the idea that Ranma soon escapes back to Nerima after getting marked, but because it feeds on the ambient corruption, which Earth lacks, the cursed mark keeps the pathway open allowing corruption to seep in and (more interestingly) allowing all sorts of weird jerks to show up and cause havoc.
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>>6867357
>But those of us with a working moral compass wont be, because what Nodoka does to Ranma is probably one of the most disgusting things a mother can do to a child.

Someone's got mommy issues. But anyway, it's not a matter of blame it's a matter of character study. You getting so bent out of shape is evidence for my point that the characters are deep - you're interested enough to argue about them.
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>>6870275
Not him, but what are you on about? A mother who wants to kill her own child because she thinks he's not manly enough is pretty reprehensible. She only gets a pass because this is a joke manga and all the characters act crazy.

People are arguing with you not because they feel engaged by the characters but because arguing that Ranma is a deep character study sounds about as sensible as saying that Dora the Explorer has a very deep story filled with symbolism. You're using Ranma as a Rorschach blot and see what you want to see.
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Anyone ever wonder why Ranko is a redhead? I wonder if the well turns you into the female version of you or in a copy of the girl drowned there. That would actually be interesting to find out, but as I remember no two characters fell into the same well.
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>>6870809
She originally had black hair in the manga. They made it red in the anime to make it easier to tell her apart from the male Ranma. The spring turns everyone into a female version of themselves, as evidenced by another character that fell in and looks nothing like female Ranma.
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>>6866359

Glad you guys won't turn into sluts who loses to the dick and can't think straight.
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>>6871197
But every genderbent character starts out by saying she won't have sex with men. She gets turned into a slut later.
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>>6870720
>Not him, but what are you on about?
Don't believe this for a second

>A mother who wants to kill her own child because she thinks he's not manly enough is pretty reprehensible. She only gets a pass because this is a joke manga and all the characters act crazy.

Why should she get a pass? I think Nodoka is pretty reprehensible. I was just LOLing about how you got your jimmy's all rustled over it.

>People are arguing with you not because they feel engaged by the characters but because arguing that Ranma is a deep character study sounds about as sensible as saying that Dora the Explorer has a very deep story filled with symbolism. You're using Ranma as a Rorschach blot and see what you want to see.
One person is arguing with me, you. And, instead of provided support - you just make outlandish comparisons and try to pretend to be multiple people. The point is a great many people have written a great deal about the interesting points of Ranma way back when the internet was new. You kiddies just don't appreciate it because you're all emo with "Berserk is the most -deep- anime ever" and can't appreciate that a comedy can simultaneously explore characters.
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>>6871684
So you're calling me a liar. You're a pretentious, self-important moron. If you enjoy inventing depth where there is none, by all means knock yourself out.
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>>6871684
The bait is still weak but >>6871717 took it

I don't think I've seen "emo" used as an insult for a while now
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>>6871745
So you're basically saying that >>6871717 is right but then try to use that as justification for ridicule.

Since we're using retro insults, nice move dipshit.
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>one person is arguing with me
yeah you're adorable retard.
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