Trap thread

I met a trap while playing CSGO and she lives one state over from me.
Wish me luck~

>>6781833
The world needs more porn with this pose
especially with bondage

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>>6781849
Godspeed my friend, I believe in you

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>>6781857
She already calls me master
Traps are sluts dude

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>>6781861
That's great dude.
I don't know if i'll ever start being attracted to real life traps as opposed to anime ones, but i'll keep that in mind.

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clothed also encouraged

>>6781870
>Straight/bi traps
thisismyfetish.jpg

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Contributing with doujinshi. No idea what the title or sauce is.

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>>6781927
is anybody else extremely turned on by cocks rubbing together?

>>6781953
There was enough content in this doujinshi to warrant an award

>>6781953
Everyday happenings of lustful young adventurers, hope it helps you.

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>>6781818
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>>6781831
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>>6781833
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>>6781893
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>>6781837
source

>>6782637
artist is "railroad mejic"

>>6781839

what a shit coloring job

>>6782648
Thanks lad

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>>6782661
fill tool op
who needs more than one colour per object

>>6781823
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>>6781830
>posting gay shota in a trap thread
Please tell me you fucked up and didn't actually know this isn't a trap?

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>>6782736
is there a difference?

>>6782637
mejic

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>>6781909

Ofc I had to do this one

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>>6782736
>bitching about trappy shota in a trap thread when people have been posting futanari with no consequence
Are you fucking stupid?

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>>6781818
Where can i get a manga where futas have giant cocks?

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>>6783076
God bless you friend

>>6781861
Trap here. Can confirm. Bet she'd love to call you daddy too

>>6781915
Femanon? Because thats me. More bi than pure straight though i guess

>>6782692
Source?

>>6783181
Not in this thread.

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>>6781903
>trap

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>>6783215
ya, trap.
girls that look like girls but have dicks lmao

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>>6783198
Come here slut.

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>>6783308
I don't see how it's so hard to understand this concept, let me make it easy for you mouthbreathers.
>girly with boobs and dick = futa
>girly without boobs but has a dick = trap
Type that up in notepad. Print it out. Glue it to your monitor. That way you have a reminder, as I'm sure you've heard this before at some point but you apparently have the memory of a goldfish.

You have like 90% of the board for just futa, this is one of a very select few threads that excludes just futa.

>>6783198
you can call me daddy, you little whore

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>>6783385
>tfw I want nothing more in life than to wear pretty dresses and be a cute slut for people

>>6783462
M-Me too ;-;

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>>6782545
Do you know how to remove the mark from this?

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>>6783462
This too, but eventual forced transition to shemale from loving dominant.

>>6783925

I'll give it a shot

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>>6783925
There you go... Enjoy!

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>>6782696
Damn, the watermarks on some of these...
Removed just for you!

>>6783375
>Futa has a dick and vagina
> Traps look like girls but have dicks, no vagina and flat chest
>If they have boobs and a dick they're called shemale/newhalf

>>6783968

This is want i want too.

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>>6784106

<3

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>>6781849
>>6781861
>met a trap playing CS:GO
>calls him master

Webstir, is that you?

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>>6784078
You need to really dumb it down for these people, they can barely function in polite society as it is. Three options is too complicated for the level of intelligence we're dealing with

>>6782736
>implying traps are not just the higher-age-of-consent-laws answer to pederasty

Hail Cesar :^)

>>6781866

We really need more Himegoto R34.

There is a surprisingly small amount of it around...

I really want to get into the trap life style but i'm too embarrassed by my height
>tfw 6'3"
>tfw i'm about as feminine looking as a brick

>>6785132
Welcome to my world. My body would work great, my face is manly as fuck.

>>6785132
>>6785332

Height, I don't know what you'd do to minimize that, but if you want your face to look more feminine... Hormones. Swear to God, I don't know what it is about them, but legit, you get softer looking features. Also grow your hair out and learn how to makeup. ;3

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>>6781953
jesus christ this doujin

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>>6785375
Not those anons, but similar and my face really depresses me. Considering it, but it almost inevitably shrinks your dick.
>tfw want to stop being a masculine monster
>want to keep my average/above-average dick
It's too real. Have a cute trap anyway.

Looking to get completely feminized. Im alreafy a trap but i want to be as fem as possible

>>6785547
Have you tried taking my dick™? It's great for the skin.

>>6785555
Quads .. and maybe

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>>6785594
That's a good girl.

>>6785610
Do you have a skype or email

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>>6785621
Yes, see >>6777961 !

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>>6785645
And sorry about that dumb typo.

>>6785375
My jawline is a square and I have a merchant nose. I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing and work the booty.

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>>6785928
Focus on your body. I never thought I could be a trap but with died and exercise you can do it. Makeup contouring I hear can help with your face, and really face doesn't matter as much. Just look at how many completely manish women there are out there.

But I too am working on by face, but first focus on body! Work to get a nice figure and a cute butt. Took me a few months but it was worth it.

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>>6781849

>trap
>she

>>6784041
You're a fucking god mate

>>6786354
If you want to fuck traps you have to get used to saying "she"

Even when the lazy cunt misses neckhairs shaving.

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>>6786790
Nonsense. Not all traps are trans. I know I'm a dude and if you call me that, it's not a problem.

If you're dating/fucking/whatever someone that hung up over pronouns, they aren't worth it in my opinion.

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>>6786793
The booty is worth the minor annoyance of saying 'she'

At least a few times.

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>>6786807
Well I personally don't mind, but whatever does it for you and your partner I guess.

>>6786790

>"no homo bro"

>>6781886
Source?

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>>6781886
>>6787605
Giselle Gewelle from Bleach

>>6787667
No I meant artist

>>6787781

Artist name is 2n5

>>6787796
Thanks bruv

Why is becoming a trap so hard????
I need a checklist of stuff I gotta do to become one

>>6782661
The artist only produced lineart, some anons did the coloring

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>>6788230
Cardio, squats, diet, leg lunges, exercise.

For hair removal, take it slow and use proper stuff. Don't make the same mistakes I did and give yourself scars.

Focus on your body first. People are a lot more understanding than before, not everyone is passing in the face. Even trans people end up not passing. Your face may never pass, I know mine doesn't, but makeup can help with blemishes.

Don't touch hormones. More trouble than they are worth. They can ruin your life. Your libido will go away and you can become suicidal. And you can get weird looking nipples/tits. Unless you are transitioning, don't fucking touch hormones.

For clothes, remember that mens waist size = women's hip size. I don't know why they do this but women measure their waist at the tummy while men measure at the hip bone.

Panty sizes run big to account for women's hips. I'm 6ft with a 32 waist in jeans (USA), wear medium panties. But choose something that can fit your balls/dick

Embrace being who you are. In the end you are always you, even if you look boyish. Do the best you can, don't feel bad about how you look or don't look. It took me a while to figure this one out and sometimes I still feel bad, but keep positive.

And that's my trap advice.

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>>6788237
not trap

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Trap thread? Trap thread.

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>>6788716
You must be the funniest guy alive

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Posting my favorite trap image ever

>>6788281
Thank you so much! This'll help a bunch. Quick question: what's the least painful and easiest way to get rid of body hair? I just use a razor right now, but it always sucks the day after and I get red bumps.

/r/ing the name of a short manga involving a sorceress trap and male warrior
she loses her magical potency until he fucks her

>>6789039
use nair, hair removal cream, or wax if you're serious about it

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>>6781962
yes

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what about mini-traps

>>6789158
Thanks a bunch!

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>>6789247

What
>>6789158
said but:

Razors work but you MUST EXFOLIATE BEFORE AND AFTER shaving. Trim your leg/body hair with an electric razor before using a manual razor. For the next few days, exfoliate with a loofah or something. The reason why you get red bumps is because of dead skin. You must keep exfoliating.

>>6789158
does nair actually work very well? my mom used to always tell me it doesn't. I'm not sure why she told me these things when I was a kid, but then again she didn't seemed shocked when I came out as trans... so maybe she just knew, lol.

>>6789283
well, it works for me, but I'm no trap or trans. Just a guy that doesn't like hair down there. I guess the main issue is that it grows back kinda fast, you don't get the baby smooth feeling for more than a few days. Not an issue for me though since all I care about is not having a jungle down there, and it's definitely more practical and less annoying afterwards than straight up shaving.

>>6782699
>l_504.jpg

Sauce?

Is this the translation from a real doujin or just a captioned pic?

>>6789258
Okay. Good to know. Thanks as well.

>>6786793
What nonsense is that? I was born and raised a man and I look and act like a man so I damn well expect to be referred to as a man.

>>6789116
I second this damnit. That sounds hot as Hell

>>6789350
It's real. It's one about some trap pretending to be a woman to sneak into guys' houses and screw their wives. So his perfectly rational logic, upon catching trapcuck is, "Well, if my wife is your woman, I'll make you my woman, thus by the transitive properties of buttfucking my wife will become my woman again."

It's been pretty long though. Can't remember much else besides it being in ancient China/Japan.

why it is so hard to meet traps irl

>>6789552
Because you never leave your parent's house

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>>6789395
You're welcome!

>>6789455
I meant traps and people who fuck traps who play the game of pretend a bit too much.

>>6789552
Because we're often introverted and don't like to cause trouble. The few loud ones are the famous ones.

>>6789455
FOr me, at least, it's not about being called the proper gender, so much as getting referred to as a girl is really feminizing and that's a total turn-on for me

I'm not trans and I don't think I'm actually a woman on the inside or anything, I just want to be treated like an effeminate slut that just exists to serve cock. Getting treated as a girl helps with that

>>6789578
Just bought Nair, a loofah, and an electric razor, just in case.
Speaking of shaving, I nicked myself a whole bunch while shaving my pubes and it sucked....

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>>6789628
Go very slowly. Trim first before shaving.

If you can't tell, I really like this artist's traps. They seem very natural in some ways in that they aren't simply "draw girl, call it a boy."

>>6789670
Same here
They are fantastic traps

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>>6788716
>You were expecting some treasure...BUT IT WAS I, DIO!
>It was me, Barry. I WAS THE TREASURE!
>At first, I was treasure. Then I mimic'd.
>Nobody expects the mimic inquisition!

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>>6789578
How does an introverted guy meet an introverted trap? Life is hard.

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>>6789670

afaik as long as they don't have obvious curves (like a massive ass or childbearing hips) and there's some plain giveaway like an open flat chest or a bulge/dick then it's not "draw a girl call it a boy"

Anyone got that picture of genderbent trap Cynthia from Pokemon, by any chance? Not sure why, but makes me diamonds every goddamn time I see it for some reason.

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>>6789509
This is where I found it, might be down though.

http://5.79.87.81/gallery2/v/uploads/_San+Se+Fang_Wang+Er-Xi+_+Night+Stories+from+a+Chinese+Studio_English_/

>>6789509

but then one day he just so happens to cuck the wrong man

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>>6790038

A girl? With a pancake-flat man-butt like that?

Another actually good trap artist, though. He actually gets the androgynous/feminine male anatomy down accurately.

also stable URL here: https://hitomi.la/reader/628602.html#2

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>>6790183

Best moments right here

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>>6790230

I L L S H O W Y O U W H O S B O S S O F T H I S G Y M

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>>6790232

This unique type of trap cucks big manly men out of their wives for a living, so of course he's straight, at least for now

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>>6789970
potentially on an image board just like so. you never know who is on the other end of these replies

>>6790224
>a girl named Wang

>>6790311

>last name goes first in Eastern name reckoning

>Wang is an exceptionally common chinese last name

>I still get where youre coming from though

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>>6790023
Yeah that's true, but I think the face matters as well. But that's just my opinion.

>>6789970
It's tough, because most of us are introverted as well or at least don't make it known we are traps. It's why you rarely see two traps together even though there are many of us. The ones who make it their day job of camwhoring are the extroverts.

Also, most traps aren't traps 24/7. Many are normal people who don't always look girly. Like right now I'm wearing business attire because of work and I haven't shaved. Perhaps it's why I like my traps boyish, because it's more realistic that way.

You gotta keep looking though. One day maybe we'll all find what we want.

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>>6790243

>be straight male who happens to be short, skinny and androgynous
>grows up unable to ever score any pussy because women think his face is too girly and his body too small and skinny for him to be enough of a man for any of them
>they won't even take him seriously long enough to check the size of his D, which is what they all want anyways
>big, strong, square-jawed bara men getting all the ladies
>bishounen-kun changes tactics and becomes a trap
>his mission: get revenge on the baras by fucking their wives while pretending to be a woman

>>6790386
It's so hard to find women who like traps, so a story like that is pretty badass to me.

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>>6790382

To be frank as well as realistic, a trap or even a "normal" guy having a so-called "girly" face (weak-chinned, weak-jawed, soft features and in 2D, large eyes) is not unrealistic in the slightest. For animu and mango in particular, the common (though by no means universal) practice of drawing children and female characters with disproportionately large eyes compared to men is purely aesthetic (eye "size" and proportions are obviously not sexually dimorphic IRL), rooted in arguably sexist nuances of Japanese culture (that women are always overtly emotional and easy to read, whilst men are supposed to all be dark, mysterious, and more mature). For this and many other reasons, including simplifying the process of drawing multiple characters, way too many mangaka rely on idealized and exaggerated sameface templates for "male" and "female" in character design.

The simple reality is that people who argue that you can reliably tell a person's sex just by looking at their face alone, either in real life or when discerning 2D traps or androgynous males from "actual" 2D women, have no leg to stand on from a truly logical perspective. The variation both in 2D art styles and in IRL facial structures between all individuals as opposed to all men vs all women is way too large and stereotypes about sexual dimorphism in facial features are determined by culture as well as simple statistical tendencies which never apply to more than a plurality of all adults of a given sex (<50%) at a time, and even then usually in common with other "mismatching" "feminine" and "masculine" traits because that's just how natural and sexual selection, as well as epigenetics, work. Pic related is by another good trap artist (who does not draw exclusively traps), if you look closely this trap has believably male hip, shoulder, and limb proportions, with the face mattering the least in importance.

TL;DR Someone having a passably androgynous face in either 2D or 3D is perfectly realistic.

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>>6790435
Nice essay, but I think you're really overthinking this. I'm not talking about androgynous, I'm talking about drawing a girl and then slapping a dick on it.

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I wish I had a beautiful sissy trap to fuck on the daily. Too bad they're so hard to find

>>6790471

In which case you'd be looking out for how they draw almost everything BUT the face

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>>6786332

Use this as a general guide: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoteny

regardless of your height, if you exhibit in some combination at least half of the traits in the list from the article under Head and Limbs/Posture (the ones having to do with facial and body hair don't count), then you're absolutely not beyond hope. the face probably is the most important, but the only features that ultimately matter there are the size (rather than shape) of your nose, chin and jaw. "natural" traps are just neotenic males and are surprisingly common. they'll only get more so as human evolution moves further and further away from the way of the jungle via epigenetics.

and don't fuck around with hormones for any reason. should also note that they do not really make your face more "feminine" at all because your facial features are a result of bone structure, not hormones. hormones give you clearer skin and tits and alter your metabolism, among other things, but they don't automatically make you suddenly have a "passable" face by any means. your face is either passable from the outset or it isn't, and in the latter circumstance you need to make up for what you lack in your face through other areas, or literally get cosmetic surgery (rhinoplasty, jaw reduction surgery, etc.)

>>6790563
They have facial feminization surgery to reshape bone structure. It has a long healing process but it's totally legit

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>>6790563
And speaking of ffs heres a picture of average results

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>>6790231
Yeyy

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>>6790037
Well, did find what I was looking for eventually - but does anyone have a bigger sized version of it mayhaps?

>>6790563

>via epigenetics

you clearly have no clue what that is

>>6790395
there are plenty of woman that like traps... I have no clue how this myth started though I see it all the time...

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>>6790681
They are hard to find offline from my experience. But that's expected, a lot of guys are more vocal about this sort of thing.

>>6790662

Epigenetics (current consensus definition): stably heritable phenotype resulting from changes in a chromosome without alterations in the DNA sequence.

- Berger SL, Kouzarides T, Shiekhattar R, Shilatifard A (2009). "An operational definition of epigenetics". Genes Dev. 23 (7): 781–3.

Even that extremely broad definition took years of intense debate to arrive on. One possible way of understanding it is like heredity in reverse exhibited to varying degrees according to environmental stresses by a living organism.

>>6790563
>should also note that they do not really make your face more "feminine" at all because your facial features are a result of bone structure, not hormones. hormones give you clearer skin and tits and alter your metabolism, among other things, but they don't automatically make you suddenly have a "passable" face by any means.
As someone who's done a shit ton of research and spoken to countless people on it, this is blatantly false. Bone structure isn't affected, but muscle and fat distribution IS affected, and that has a hugely noticeable effect on perceived femininity.

>>6785533
Hey uh I'm a trans girl and my dick ain't shrunk after a year. so hey yeah. go for that shit. being cuter is better than dick size anyway.

>>6791048
>being cuter is better than dick size anyway.
I'm leaning towards this anyway. Thanks.

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>>6791056
>>6785533
Hopefully you can have both.

>tfw no qt trap bf who can bully my dick with his 8 inch beast

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>>6791066
I'll work on it for you, senpai!

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>>6785533
>>6791056
Or you can do it naturally like I did as instructed >>6788281 here and keep your full dick size and libido. You can be cute and still have a big dick, even top if you really wanted to.

>>6791091
I'm undecided on hormones, but I definitely plan on FFS regardless. Could you elaborate on the "proper stuff" and the "mistakes [you] made" in reference to hair removal?

>>6790395
trhat's what i love about my GF, i told her i was into being a CD, and she jumped the train harder than i ever did; and i gotta say i love it.
it's kinda weird though, i feel like i'm one of the few mostly straight traps out there
i'm sure there are a lot, but the ones you see are usually cocksleeve buttsluts and honestly, i love me some traps. i'd love to have a personal toy and suck me off on a dime

i love being a sissy dom, send help

>>6783462
I want that too...

>>6783968
I would pay for this.

>>6791097
I'm not a fan of surgery, like hormones it feels like cheating and the effects are often overexaggerated in the community. I've seen quite a few people ruined by it because they look awkward. Unless you're trans of course, but otherwise I'd rather stick to other reversible means.
Took me a lot to come to that conclusion, even considered transitioning at one point, but I'll just deal with it in other ways.

By mistakes I mean rushed shaving and not exfoliating, which leads to scars. Now if I can't shave (privacy issues) I just don't. Not a trap all the time but I can't help it I guess.

>>6791108
You're lucky, that's what I want. I'm bi but I would prefer a supportive woman more because it avoids the gay stigma. Most likely I'll end up hiding it until I just stop.

>>6791292
Well, I already need maxillo-facial surgery for other reasons, so we'll see after that. For now I'm just trying to zap my hair away. My nose is pretty offensive I find, anyway. Undecided on transitioning myself.

You can call it cheating, but I call it not hating how I look. I call natural traps cheating.

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>>6791310
>I call natural traps cheating.
That's a strange sentiment, but whatever floats your boat.

>>6791373
They were handed something beautiful by genetics and don't have to work to attain it.

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>>6791394
Except that's wrong. Spent a while dieting and exercising doing it. A lot of people can obtain trap aesthetics if they just tried. That argument that they were "handed" something is as ridiculous as the argument obese people use to claim thin people didn't have to work for it.

It takes work, everything takes work, and the outcome of that work is worth it.

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>>6791433
You sound like someone who has never tried.
The thing is most people are not beautiful, even the ones who take pictures of themselves and share them. Just look outside your window, regardless of who it is most people look just normal or worse. It's all in the presentation and the attempt to make oneself look a certain way. Posing, makeup, clothing, and hair choice goes a long way as well.

Don't pay attention to people who expect perfection, as they are imperfect as well. I found it's not worth using drastic measures to pursue beauty, whatever that may be, because in the end you will never find it. Many people get surgery and still don't feel like the look right. So for me I just compromise and focus on the aspects that I can change to make myself look better without resorting to more drastic measures.

Don't really see the reason for calling me retarded though.

>>6790609
This gave me hope.

>>6791424
You realize I'm not just talking about being fat or skinny, right? >>6791433 has a point, even if they're making it in a dumb way.

The fact is, some people are genetically gifted with naturally androgynous faces, hairless bodies, great skin, nice hips, etc. Many of these can be changed or improved, but those who don't have to work for it naturally have it better.

>>6791456
Me too, anon.

>>6791462
I can't deny that part about skin body type and face but hairless bodies is not that true. Blonde hairs aren't that much noticeable in opposite of black.
How can you improve it? I do squats and all of that but the face part is difficult..

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>>6789010
posting sauce manga

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I swear to god, it's like literally every single trap thread ever spirals into neurosis over appearances and /lgbt/ transitioning and hormones after just 50 posts.

What the fuck is wrong with wanting to be a cute androgynous male? I obviously can't speak for everyone here but it especially annoys me when everyone is deluded into believing that simply being male makes you automatically damned in looks compared to virtually any woman.

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>>6791510
Testosterone fucks me up.

Does anyone have the hentai posted recently that had a sister shrinking her brother who is a femboy/trap and then invites her friend over who is a futa whom puts the trap brother in a condom and fucks the sister with the condom on?

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>>6791510
>What the fuck is wrong with wanting to be a cute androgynous male? I obviously can't speak for everyone here but it especially annoys me when everyone is deluded into believing that simply being male makes you automatically damned in looks compared to virtually any woman.
I like the way you think, I think the same way but it seems most people I talk to who I offer advice to don't.

Or I just get called retarded. Ah well. Wish there were more natural traps who put in work for their looks.

>>6791633
I would enjoy to hear these advices, anon.

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>>6791649
see
>>6788281
>>6791292
And follow the post chain I guess. I cant really think of anything else at the moment.

>>6789010
how does he have fuck when than pant still wore?

>>6791510
Preach it.

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>>6791653
I'm running with one day resting and doing 160 squats daily at the moment. Maybe more in two weeks. What diet would you recommend? Avoiding red flesh is already in my mind.
Uhm but I think hrt is necessary to avoid getting your body destroyed by testosterone and to grow a decent chest. Surgeries will be necessary too because I dislike my cock. My jawline is pretty male maybe I'll keep it there are women with similar bones but I don't like my nose... We'll see what gets covered by health insurance.
>>6791680
Can't unsee. Maybe he pulled them avay.

>>6791683

Don't think I haven't fucking tried. Sexual dimorphism in humans is the result of sexual selection as well as environmental and social pressures for mate competition, almost exclusively amongst males. In humans it has actually been steadily decreasing via a complicated feedback loop process linked to cognitive development for more than 500,000 years, a byproduct of this being neoteny. Women being (on average) more neotenic than men is actually also due to positive sexual selection by males and is not a sexual characteristic in and of itself. Slowly, over hundreds of generations, female neoteny resulting from male sexual preference has steadily been rubbing off on males, partly because of the "maternal effect" and partly due to the fact that pretty much all of your most basic somatic DNA is carried on the X chromosome. Males have neotenized more slowly (on average) because selective pressures in primordial, intrinsically violent times made it advantageous in every way for males to be bigger and stronger we all know this shit etc.

But further evidence of sexual selection driving increasing neoteny in both sexes is the very different patterns of sexual preference men have when compared to women. Men overwhelmingly select for females with greater neoteny because they indicate the most fertility, whilst women by contrast have widely varying preferences in males and are more likely to judge a male based on perceived ability, intelligence, and communication skills rather than pure physical fitness. Thus women are far less likely to rely on a man's facial features in deciding reproductive fitness while men overwhelmingly and closely scrutinize female faces for perceived fitness. One result of this is that human males vary in appearance as well as behavior considerably more than women, and that sometimes you have men who look like huge, hairy, muscular mountain gorillas and other times you have men who are literally smooth, hairless, soft-faced and androgynous.

>>6791720

(continued)

Another result is that despite the strongly patriarchial and unnatural regimentation brought about by civilization, in the natural modern human state, assuming both sexes are free to choose according to natural pressures, women are still more decisive than men in determining the outcome of sexual selection, which is in-line with pretty much all other animals. Female selection by males started the drive towards neoteny, which rubbed off on each generation of offspring, but ultimately the female selection of more intelligent, less threatening, more verbal males (another result of neoteny passed down from the mother) is what ended up reinforcing the positive feedback loop which rapidly drove the process of human evolution further and further from ape-like ancestors and brought about a degree of comparatively mild sexual dimorphism lying in between chimpanzees (which have almost no dimorphism at all) and gorillas (which have extremely pronounced sexual dimorphism).

The male preference for physically paedomorphic females has inevitably resulted in the entire human race slowly becoming more and more "feminized" over tens of thousands of years, and this process will likely only continue until sexual dimorphism practically disappears (although with technology taking over everything the process will cease to be natural). Odds are strong we might even at some point in the future artificially accelerate the process because it would inevitably allow people to naturally live longer. From the perspective of self-preservation and longevity within an increasingly sheltered and civilized environment, we may end up genetically modifying how our bodies read our DNA sequences so that we age slower, invest less and less metabolic energy into bone thickness, body hair growth, hormone secretion, and skeletal growth (among other things), and overall retain an increasingly young and child-like appearance as we grow up, with puberty being milder and milder.

>>6791748
Now I'm somewhat depressed. Why did I have to be born in such a primitive, practically neanderthal society? Enjoy, future humans.

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>>6791717
You do realize not all traps are trans, right? If you seriously want to transition then you're better off asking your doctor what to do, but HRT and surgery isn't for everyone.

>>6791720
>>6791748
>>6791757
You are really overthinking this.

>>6791748

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To re-emphasize one of my main points, males naturally exhibit more VARIANCE than females bot mentally and physically and this reflects patterns of sexual selection. In the jungle raw physical strength, endurance, survivability, and assertiveness enable the most masculine males to attain the most reproductive success, but under ideal, socialized, intelligent, and peaceful conditions the more feminine, less physically oriented, more social, skilled and intelligent males are better off. In present times in the developed world, at least, the latter process ought to be on the verge of rapid acceleration right now, provided shit doesn't catastrophically collapse in the near future (and I doubt it will). In the right environment and raised under the right conditions, the mother will have vastly more of an impac on the appearance of her children, both male and female, than the father, who is basically just a carrier in the genetic sense and not a hereditary determiner in his own right. Your looks, if you're male, come more from a combination of your mother's genes and epigenetic factors faced during puberty such as environment, lifestyle, diet, and testosterone levels (which can vary enormously according to all of these factors at any one time) during this critical period of development than on anything predetermined purely by your genotype.

>>6791770
There is no overthinking the earnest pursuit of scientific answers to social dilemmas.

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>>6791783
>>6791757

If you think of mammals as essentially what we are, then classifying women as "female" and men as "half-female" goes a long way in explaining what you are. Simply having a dick does NOT make you doomed to become a neanderthal, and a lot of men look as masculine as they do, ironically, more because of lifestyle, diet, the perceived need for gender roles, and the aesthetics of the traditional culture of masculinity, than because of some exaggerated and pointless claim advocating some kind of dichotomy of the sexes as distinct as night and day. If you don't look neotenic at all, generational pressures inherited from your ancestors and their self-imposed gender roles are to blame, and not your sex. Even if you can't be one of the guys who "lucked out" (and there are obviously way more of these than any men who pride themselves in being masculine will ever, ever admit), you can still contribute to lessening or even deleting the effect across future generations by, for starters, not raising your son to be a dumb, sexually overactive meathead jock or overly assertive outdoorsman with a shaved head. Perpetuating certain social and cultural behaviors and norms does, in fact, gradually rub off on the human physique over many generations just as it creates and reinforces an aesthetic mindset that you find yourself seemingly locked in.

>>6791783
Damn dude, you should write a paper and publish it

>>6791783
Nice walls of well camouflaged and delusional garbage.

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>>6791865

>translation: "I should fuck off back to /r9k/ where I came from/I haven't done any of my homework but I don't think anon's essays sound right and disagree for personal or ideological reasons"

>>6791680

see >>6791511

>>6791680

Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

>>6791968
Well played...

>>6786793
I'm a trap and I would hate to be called "she"
I am a guy and I want people to know that I am. It's more fun that way, personally.

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>>6791757

you're already probably already more feminine than most actual WOMEN living only 12,000 years ago.

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>>6792115

people like traps BECAUSE they're male, not female. there's literally no rational justification for the bullshit claim that traps are by definition trans women or "the same thing" as a girl since the dinstinct allure of traps clearly discriminates between penis versus no penis.

being gay for bridget is more than just a "haha funny you were tricked that's actually a dude" meme from ~2006. the key phrase is *BECAUSE he's a guy*, not in spite of it and you'll hear utterences of this exact rhetoric (however vague) all over the place.

>>6792137
Then there's no reason to be calling traps a "she" then is there?

Society is getting to a point where clothes no longer define a person. Pants do not mean guy anymore. So why can't people here understand that people can wear what they want without needing a reason to?

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>>6792137

IMO forced traps have a certain unique appeal that girls can't have, such as identifying as male only to be forced to crossdress in embarrassing clothing, and be further humiliated by being told that he looks adorable in them because he could naturally pass for a cute girl. you get bonus sissyfication, humiliation, and unwilling out of them, and even being called cute when they're raised to believe that boys (and even certain reasonably androgynous men) aren't supposed to be cute.

literally how the fuck can you not be turned on by that?

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>>6792141
>>6792137
In the last few years it stopped being a joke and trans people started using the term as well for some reason. There really isn't a reason to call traps "she" unless you are going along with the facade.

>>6792115
That's not what I meant. I meant for people who are hung up and demand being called "she" when all they are doing is dressing in a skirt or something. I personally find it silly.
>I am a guy and I want people to know that I am. It's more fun that way, personally.
I agree, it's what makes it more taboo in a way.

>>6792149
Not like that everywhere. I know I'd be beaten if I walked outside in one of my skirts, especially as I look now.

>>6792163
Trap was actually used as a slur towards trans people. I use a handle with "trap" in it online and occasionally I get people messaging me angrily because "how Dre you use a trans slur in your name even though you're not a transfemale!?"

>>6792167

trap originated as 4chan slang to refer to anime characters like bridget and never explicitly referred to "trans people". practically everyone used the slang term tranny for those and many still do.

>>6792171
That is the literal argument I give. I tell them "it originates from anime and I use it in context to anime, however weeby it may be."

>>6792175

fucking tumblrettas just took the term and decided that it was politically incorrect, "problematic" and "transphobic" like all their other "look at us we have superior liberal education and use superior politically correct language that we invented" shenanigans.

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>>6792175
>>6792180
Yep. Funny this also coincided with the term "crossdresser" being considered a lower term and with drag queens being seen as "transphobic." Shame how things I considered innocent for years are ruined. But fuck it, I'm still calling myself a trap.

>>6792167
It originated from the Admiral Ackbar meme applied to characters like Bridget. The "trap" was it's a guy/has a dick. It only became a slur when easily butthurt morons made it so.

>>6790232
>FuckYou!
that is why this is my favourite doujin ever

>>6781818
I wish there were more non-pedo trap pictures.

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>>6789294
I thought Nair really burned your junk, though? I've heard a lot of horror stories.

>>6791510
I feel you here; I just wanna trap it up and trick unsuspecting old guys and dudebros on Omegle or see if nobody notices I'm a dude on a short trip to the library or whatever. It's just a fun hobby and kink to me, but half the people I know say that I'm 'setting trans people back a hundred years' because I treat trapping exactly as it is--a TRAP to ensnare guys for a fetish like some kinda androgynous asshole.

...Writing it out, I GUESS I can see how that really looks bad, but crossdressers have existed for fuckin' centuries. I treat gender like a game, because to me, it is. If you think it's more serious and wanna be respected as a real girl, you better believe I'll respect you.

The fact that trans girls exist doesn't undermine the fact that traps/CDers exist, too. So, why doesn't it work the other way around? I get that trans people have it WAY harder, but saying there's starving kids in Africa ain't gonna make me feel bad for not being able to finish every grain of my rice. People are different. Accept it!

>>6792283
>I thought Nair really burned your junk, though? I've heard a lot of horror stories.

I heard that too but nothing happened to me. It only burned when I accidentally put a bit of it on a scabbed wound I had on my thigh.

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>>6792286
I tried it on my legs once, but even though I left it on longer than recommended, it was still patchy and didn't come all off. Maybe there's a specific brand I need to find?

Shaving protip: Trim/clip hair down to a very short/buzzed length before shaving all-out, because it'll clog the razor and yank at your skin more if you don't. I personally only need to use a lather-y bodywash instead of shaving cream, but if you get red easy, maybe consider otherwise?

Before shaving, get the hairy area hella wet with hot/warm water to get the area slick and make the hair less likely to come out burning. Scrub the SHIT out of the area to exfoliate it for a good 5-10 minutes, too. Yeah it takes time, but it's worth not having bumps.

After, use COOOLD water (goodbye, testicles) to rinse the area off and calm down any forming redness.

Also, don't store razors in a place that has a lot of steam, like right in the shower. It fucks up the blade faster.

I moisturize everywhere but my junk, because that's already pretty smooth and moisturizer just irritates that area for some reason.

Let the area air out for a good while after that, without underwear or pants or whatever. It might irritate your skin before it's ready. I know this all sounds like it takes a while, but with practice, it gets easier--and it's worth the results, of course.

The first few times shaving MIGHT still hurt, even following these steps. You have virgin skin and pores. They might have not been exposed to air in DECADES for some of us! But you need to keep at it, and build up your resistance to sensitivity. It'll happen, just like it did with your face. Good luck!

>>6792244

Right?

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because it's hot

Anyone know of a good source of traps frotting? Either with each other or with guys? Real or drawn doesn't matter to me. But I find it's hard as fuck to find.

>>6792118
Eh, not really. Apart from the actual Neanderthal ancestry, the vast majority of folk are more robust than their 12kya ancestors.

Hunter Gatherers don't have strong selection pressure for heavy frames and great wads of muscle, they've got selection for endurance, speed, stealth, and thriftyness.

It isn't until we are farming (where greater work capacity= greater wealth) and forming civilization (and thus making war) that selection for extreme robustness, great strength, large size, and such.

Only hominids that were effectively megafauna dependent and simultaneously unable to make the jump to projectile weapons (ie Neanderthals) were selected for robustness prior to this time.

Even the advent of the gun has done nothing to slow selection for strength, large size, and robustness, because the soldier on route march with full kit is a at greater risk of injury, and needs a higher carrying capacity than a hunter gatherer tribesman carrying an atlatl, knapping tools, fire kit, and young child.

If we can stop fighting wars of rape and genocide, this selection may abate, but I find that unlikely, and even if we did, while Prince and Beiber may attract legions of wet panties, it's the Evander Hollifields and Scott Skiles of the world who actually go out there and put babies in bellies.

what happened to this thread
It used to be so good
The traps were so good

>>6792579
/r9k/ the post.

Say, i am looking for good trap hentai a la natsu yasumi. Anyone know any good one
>inb4 boku no pico

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>>6792506
Just search gelbooru for those two terms. Though there isn't a lot of it for my taste. Here's one of my favorite images for that.

>>6792592
Someone started talking about epigenetics. Post some traps then.

>>6793255
I can't help you there, it's incredibly uncommon to find.

>>6792579

I think you've got evolutionary theory completely backwards and are getting natural selection heavily mixed up with divergent hominid lineages (early anatomically modern human hunter-gathereres as COMPARED to neanderthals and h. erectus, and contemporary modern human hunter-gatherers/"farmers" as STILL compared to neanderthals and early modern human hunter-gatherers), as well as differences among modern human populations in the civilized world due to divisions of labor, social class, diet, and lifestyle within the patterns of environmental determinism.

What I've been describing is a real and scientifically observed phenomenon (increasing neoteny as a positive feedback loop in human physiological as well as cognitive evolution) and it's clearly observable in the archaeological record. You can literally read up on this shit and it's considered a prime mover which overall only continues to be favored as human societies move further away from the jungle.

Neoteny also has little to do with differences in human robustness brought about by non-social, environmental and epigenetic traits that can differentiate individuals within the space of a single generation. Yes it's ridiculously overcomplicated shit that can't be put in simplistic layman's terms but it's still a clearly observable trend that only becomes more obvious the longer a temporal breadth you're comparing. If Prince had lived the entire first 20 years of his life raised as a country boy or a jock he'd have ended up a linebacker or a bodybuilder and not the skinny, androgynous, absolutely fabulous hipster faggot that he ended up becoming instead.

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>>6792244
>>6792312
>>6792592


desuchan has a 100% dedicated /tr/ board that's literally loaded with content as well as pointers to other trap master race artists and doujins, sadly it moves even more slowly than /e/ and /wg/ in terms of user activity.

but the best way to draw attention away from /sci/fags and /lgbt/ cucks is to just continue posting pictures of qt trap master race boys.

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>tfw no trap to fall into

>>6792241
>not being a pedo
>>/out/

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>>6791510
>What the fuck is wrong with wanting to be a cute androgynous male?
Most gay people and women don't like you off the bat from tastes and most trap likers are autistic about how feminine you have to look.

Man I wish my bf wasn't such a stick in the mud. I just wanna be a trap surrounded by dicks sometimes but jeez is he jealous....he wants me to only be his trap and yet he never fulfills any of my kinks because he's nervous about embarrassing himself
How can I at least get him out of his shell and get him to ravish me?

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>>6792244
>>6792312
>>6793339
>>6793339
you transphobes could always just not read the text you know, there is still plenty of porn being posted

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>>6794776
sounds like maybe it's time to end that relationship

>>6794776
Gently and gradually. Just gradually work on stuff the way people do when they are getting over a phobia or anxiety.

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>>6794781
>transphobes
This has nothing to do with trans people, actually at least 2 of the other traps here ITT aren't. I'm not either. Don't make this into one.

>>6794833

ignore the ugly SJWs and hons

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>>6794837
Yeah they annoy the crap out of me. I'm fine with being a guy, I'm fine with being girly too. If gender is a construct to them, why do they want me to change it or be in the process of changing it?

Rant over, post traps.

Less blogging, post more traps.

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>>6794858
>>6794833
>>6792137
>>6791510
So much this.

Coming from the other side as a trap admirer, I like them because they are cute androgynous males. The draw-a-girl type are less attractive than when there are still male traits.

Probably feeds into the fact that I'm sexually a bit subby too, so the idea that a trap would identify as male and be willing to top is more attractive than straight up mtf.