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old thread >>6765768

Eat your greens edition

Discuss lewd games, share your projects and have others critique them.
Post pictures (/d/ related preferably) to keep the thread alive.

Lose hope of making games here, and collaborate with others to not make games:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?pli=1#!forum/hentai-game-dev-group

>/d/ Games Catalog:
http://pastebin.com/Su7gb2iq

>IRC:
irc.rizon.net
#/d/evs
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plantgirl gardening game when
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>>6770022
nice triple dubs m8
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>>6770023
Is this a slug?
Slug girl vs Alarune, who wins?
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Free Cities loli mod for version 0.6.5.2:
https://mega.nz/#!TYgBDQKa!rEuBS3oFMRS7GTUqVXkMUunxpH4X-b273_oV6fz7uRU
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>>6770025
Are you the one making the mod?
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>>6770026
Do not feed the Troll.
Just report him and move on.
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For whoever maintains the pastebin any chance of fixing the typo in the No Haven description?

Also Masculine Mystique probably should be in suspended/abandoned rather than in development.
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What if I add it to the pastebin?
Will it solve the problem about people getting butthurt?
I mean there will be no more reason for anon to repost it.
I can even make it on a separate pastebin locked with a password if it helps.
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>>6770042
You'd have to keep it updated though.
And where would you post the password?
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>>6770041
I wrote a new desc for No Haven and moved Masculine Mystique.
Let me know if I did new typos
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Girl Life/GTO/that one russian game guide/wiki when

Holy shit there's so much stuff in that
Is the content when you're 18+ and move out the same size when you're still a schoolgirl?
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>>6770060
there's a pastebin in the pastebin
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So I can not get Katya/Katia to hang out with me in Girl life.

Have a great relationship from chatting at lunch and I'm doing badly at school but never get the prompt to study. Anyone have any ideas?
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>>6770044
The password will be obvious enough for people to get yelled at for asking in the thread.
It is now in the pastebin now under the mod section

>>6770060
There's a very complete guide in OP's pastebin.
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>>6770070
Looks fine, but I guarantee you will still have people asking what mod this is and what password to use.
It's not like you can really get around that though.
And you will update this for new versions, I suppose?
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>>6770058
Cheers. Change slaver to slavers and that'd be spot on.
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>>6770070
Anon only posts the mod to stir shit though
It will still get posted multiple times in every thread.
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>>6770083
I am actually pretty satisfied with my result, so I can promise you that at least I won't keep posting it.
I may be somewhat of an asshole, but I know when it's enough.
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>>6770081
I never modded fc and I don't really plan to.
If someone is willing to keep the mod updated, just create a mega and update it with a new version once in a while.

>>6770082
done
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there arent enough games with lactation content, it makes me sad ;_;
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Has there ever actually been a shitstorm? The lolimod guy keeps going "lol u so mad ebin EPIC xkxdkdkd lol i trol u", but the only direct reaction I've seen is a few mildly disconcerted replies by people who took FCdev's threat to quit seriously.

The mod barely does more than change a number and the game version is outdated, there's no reason for anyone to give a shit about it.
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In FC, does the Roman Revivalist law help you survive the coup at the end of the Daughters storyline, or does it only help determine how hard you win?
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>>6770110
>there's no reason for anyone to give a shit about it.
I agree, yet people do for some odd reason.
At least first time it was posted there were plenty of replies and the old "what is and what isn't pedophilia?" debate again going on and on.
People should have just ignored it or dropped it at any point.
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>>6770110
It also has nicknames that are probably not things you should really admit knowing about.
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>>6770113
Just how hard you win.
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could some one post a download link for the most recent offline minerva sol editor? the main site is down for me
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>>6770082
I hope you'll be giving starting succubi the actual corruption traits like demonic tongue, tail, hooved feet, and so on. I also miss the ability to succubize by gaining enough corruption like in whorelock, but your release ETA is long enough without adding more features.
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>>6770030
Actually, some janitors/moderators (not sure if they'll do it on this board) may actually warn or ban you for abusing the report function for "stuff I don't like but is not against the rules," just FYI. It depends on the board and the janitors/mods active that day. Fair warning.

Since /d/ has lots of trap threads -- which usually involve shota and/or young boys -- I'm pretty sure a text-only loli mod isn't against the rules
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I just tought an idea for a /d/ game:
A nypho-girl becomes an adventurer to find different and exotic things to pleasure herself with and/or stick in to her cunt with a side dish of substance abuse and drug use. Most enemies would not fuck you unless you did something specific like erotic posturing or applying pheromone concocktions. Having some sort of puzzles for avoiding game overs when captured.
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>>6770299
Sounds similar to my idea for a game.
I am still working on coding up my own engine though, so it'll be probably quite a while before anything comes of it.
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>>6770302
Cool, good luck with it!
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>>6770113
But it also turns you into Rome, which is sweet, and shouldn't be overlooked as a benefit.
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In the FC loli mod did you change how starting skills affect the price? It seems to be significantly easier to get almost all the positive traits within the 10k budget.
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>>6770042
>Will it solve the problem about people getting butthurt?
Of course it won't. He already stated multiple times that he's posting it literally just to get a shitstorm going. He would post it even if you added it to the pastebin.
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>>6770110
There's been a 100+ post shitstorm caused by it before. How did you not notice?
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>>6770026
No, he's not. The mod can be found on some other chan, the anon here likes to drop it here because it rustled others somewhat fierce in the past.
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>>6770353
I suspect it's as much his fault as the other anons. It'd /d/, home of shit so fucked up you sometimes have to have deep issues to fap to it. By comparison stuff like loli/shota is vanilla (even if very taboo due to people not differentiating between reality and fiction) and the whole drama and fighting around it could be easily resolved by people simply shrgging and going about their own business.
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>>6770124
Suppose that's still better than the Maturity Preference law, even if you have to eat a steep weekly penalty for it to do anything.
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>>6770369
thanks for clarifying
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What are the desired traits for Collectrix/Maid?
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>>6770448
They're listed in the encyclopedia, but I think it goes as follows.
The collectrix wants a big dick, high oral skills, big tits and ass, and I think a pretty face?
The milk maid only needs to be young. healthy, and buff, as far as I know.
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>>6770448
>>6770459
Collectrix doesn't need a pretty face, and they also benefit from a nympho sex drive and a domination fetish.
The Milkmaid also benefits from oral skill.
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>>6770353
see
>>6770085
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>>6770513
>I'm definitely going to stop shitposting, I promise :^)
You sure are convincing.
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>>6770514
You can believe whatever you want, but I am not as autistic as those guys sperging out over it.
I have had my fun and it was added to the pastebin. That's enough for me.
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Speaking of loli mod... latest version when?
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>>6770541
Fuck off to cripplechan.
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>>6770279
Surprisingly, Trolling IS against the rules.
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>>6770573
That might be a valid argument if the topic prohibited such things, but this is /dgg/. Not only does it not prohibit certain fetishes, it actually talks about games that contains them fairly frequently (ETO, CoC/TiTS, HHS and its spinoffs, etc). The only reason FC is considered trolling is because some whiteknight anon is trying to save FC from being destroyed... which isn't really a thing since FCDev hasn't announced his resignation.
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>>6770578
Hoping he'd fix his last version if he were to stop.
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Any new trap games, or is it just TrapQuest, FC and some light content in fenoxo's games?
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Why can't I put my traps into chastity belts? My fucking life dream is making a harem of girly boys only allowed to cum with their boypussy, why the fuck you doing this to me FCdev?
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>can't stop jerking off long enough to program anything
w h o o p s
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>>6770594
Life in Silk's alpha released just before Christmas. If timelines are to be believed, it's due to release in sometime in the next few months. That's the only real "new" one that I know of.

If you're looking into older ones you haven't played yet, maybe there are also a few older games on tfgamesite. And maybe a few Japanese ones if you can read or use the Visual Novel Reader's translator.
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>>6770605
Also worth noting LiS's dev primarily updates via his twitter, so his website/offbeatr looks inactive even though he himself isn't.

He says there are now only seven more outstanding issues left before it's ready for release. So more likely a few weeks than a few months.
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>>6770604
>being unable to jerk and code simultaneously
Keep training, padawan.
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>>6770605
>>6770608
So what is Life in Silk?
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>>6770069
Get drunk at the local dance and she should take you home. Talk to her again at school and you can then start studying with her.
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>>6770627
>What is google
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>>6770614
I think it's just time to break out the ol' cage.
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>>6770594
You could always play /tg/'s pseudo tabletop game of Trap Island.

http://img.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1438/29/1438291731937.pdf
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>>6770022
>Alraune Raising Game
I had a draft for this somewhere; you could raise various types and record their eating (read raping and voring) for profit. you could even get rare seeds by talking to other breeders. it was pretty dark though since all the food was monstergirls (fairies, mousegirls, insectgirls). Feel free to steal, dont really care.
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>>6770652
So, that one Mii plaza game only with monster plants?
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>>6770468
>>6770548

Anyone know of a game like this? This guy's just throwing out ideas, and there's no way in hell he's gonna do it, but I gotta wonder if something like it already exists?
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>>6770655
dont know what game you're talking so I can't really compare. My idea was more a VN crossed with Harvest Moon.
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1st for ignore shitposters.

Also how did the russian get girl quest to be so interactive in Quest. Fucking slavs. I have no idea how he did half the stuff he did.
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>>6770578
>The only reason FC is considered trolling is because some whiteknight anon is trying to save FC from being destroyed
That isn't true at all. The anon has explicitly stated multiple times that he's just doing this to stir shit. Even without whiteknight anon it would still be against the rules.
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>>6770748
If you're trusting trollanon at his word, he also said he's got his enjoyment and so will stop. So any other instance of posting the link is non-trolling, so is within the rules.
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So where is the Loli mod based then? So I can look there for updates rather than banging on about it here?
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>>6770823
SPOON FEED ME
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>>6770823
wheelchan.
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>>6770829
Is spoon feeding becoming our new meme or something.
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>>6770849
Some people hate the idea of actually helping people.
As someone who lurked /r/ delivering for two years, people going out of their way to not help others seems fucking retarded.

As far as I know, if you want to keep track of the lolimod you want to go to /stg/ where it was made.
Also, if you want to be like this guy >>6770829
You should also go to /stg/ because everyone in /stg/ is a fuck cunt.
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>>6770878
Yeah, what's with that. Over the past few months these game threads have gotten unreasonably negative (even for this place), to the point that it actively destroys contribution and collaboration.

It used to just be "shit on people who have games" then it became "shit on people who have ideas for games" and now its "shit on people asking for games"

Makes me want to pull the ole-4chan-fallacy of "it must be one guy/small quantity of people shitting things up"

Genuinley curious; What would make people happy? What do they want?


Still nice to see the majority of people enjoying and discussing FC though, that seems to be the only thing holding it all together anymore. Kek
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>>6770605
>>6770608
They have builds released for 'offbeatr' supporters or whatever the fuck that is. Where can I pirate one?
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>>6770903
might make sense just to have a threadly question/game of the day underneath the OP
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>>6770952
That's a pretty productive idea. Could help give the thread a starting direction instead of leaving things blank until a complaint or purposefully argumentative thing pops. Won't solve it, but could help.

Take note "next threads OP".
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>>6770903

The simple answer is that people shitpost because they're bored.

The signal to noise ratio of these threads has always been bad. Each individual user goes through these threads in order to find the "good" stuff, where "good" is anything from "fits my kink" to "has gameplay" to "is actually a game". (What I mean is that everyone decides for themselves answers to questions like "Are VNs games?" and "How much "gameplay" do I want to suffer through to get to the masturbatory content?" and "Which game engines aren't even worth touching?")

Once you go through the discovery process, you realize that very little stuff that matches your tastes is being actually produced, be it because devs never finish projects or because your kink isn't widespread or because there just isn't a high enough amount of devs working in the fiel/d/. At this point, you pick the projects/devs you like and start watching the development, effectively (or literally) buying into the "early access" system. Except this system is mostly built around waiting, and you can only play a build so much before you get bored and go online to see if anyone has anything new for you.

So we all come into this cesspool with empty hands, begging and pleading and spitballing ideas we never intend to actually turn into completed games. Such /d/iscussion turns to shit quite quickly, as most of 4chan can attest - though I posit that it is shit from the get-go (and not only simply by virtue of being on 4chan). If a whole thread goes by without a single actual update of any actively-watched project, maybe we don't need an evergreen general.

>>6770634

By the way, this CYOA is up to version 3.0 or above already, and you're still linking 2.x
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>>6770984

It's a shame how little OC this thread produces. Writing FC events is pretty easy.
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bumping
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>>6770903
>Genuinley curious; What would make people happy? What do they want?

more RAG's Games?
no seriously, i think its summer in america currently so we get alot of shitposters here

also including that guy who just asked for TITS, theres been someone asking for it every thread for the last 14 threads and probably more, if i could be bothered to go back further through the archives

Dont know about shitting on people for having games or ideas for games, i've only ever seen that happen to fenoxo, lewd, FC and anyone who suggests making RAG's games

to be fair, fenoxo's stuff is pretty furry and gathers more appeal on /furry/, Lewd is shat on for supposedly offering shit payments to the people who write his porn, FC get attacked because he's in every single thread and because of a tiny minority of butthurt lolicons

Bedlams treated well, mainly because he makes pretty gud games and also because all those shitty cunts who attack anyone for talking about their games on here dont play RAGs games and cant criticize it
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Hentai Highschool + Question:

Is there something that stops the player from growing their dick to the max size?

I started as a female, became a futa and tried to use my maxed our enlargement drugs but it never goes above "larger" after multiple doses and waiting for quite some time. I could just change it with the debugger but that ruins the fun.
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>>6771090
>more RAGS games
Oh god please no
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>>6771090
Speaking of Bedlam
I hear he's adding a new race for no haven
murlocks or murguls

also isnt he making whorelocks revenge into a twine game or somethng?

and speaking of Twine games, who here's played stranded?
its pretty gud, unfortunately it will never be finished
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>>6771090
RAGS is one of the worst game engines I've seen used around /hgg/. It's combines the worst of both worlds: the large memory consumption and difficulty to use of an advanced game engine, but the highly restrictive range of what you can do like a simple game engine.

And let's not even get started on the fact the RAGS community is split between three, semi-incompatible versions, requiring you to have three versions of it installed to play all the games properly.
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>>6771095
Pretty much this. RAGS is so fucking shit its depressing. Which is a real shame as there are a couple of games on it that are really good content wise just they are hard to play due to the shit they are built on.
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>>6771102
>3 versions
i thought you only needed 2
The latest version and the legacy version?
I've yet to find a RAG's game i could run without those 2

Also while its a shit engine for most things, its still bare minimally acceptable for a few types of games, really just depends what you're doing with it

Still Bedlam created a good game on it, which either shows that its not complete shit or that Bedlam is pretty gud at making games

although sometimes i wonder if it would be better on something like twine or a completely different engine
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>>6771112
Bedlam is like the first and only major RAGS game dev I've seen who doesn't password lock the editing of his game.

From looking at it, I can tell you that if he did all that in Twine or an HTML5 engine, (hell, even QSP would be a leap ahead) he would be able to make content 50% faster in the worst case scenario. But given the crazy-complex coding he can do in the RAGS engine, if he was equally competent in a more appropriate game engine, he could be putting out game content 2-4 times faster. And I don't say that with any exaggeration.
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>>6771124
Yeah, RAGS was designed solely for top-down exploration games on a 2D map. So using it for a managment sim that does not use any 2D map or exploration whatsoever seems a bit nonsensical. (Though it did make sense for Whorelock, since that was a dungeon exploration game. But certainly not NoHaven).

I think he just used the engine because he knew it better than any other, not because it as appropriate for the game he was making.
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>>6771124
If he did or is porting whorelocks revenge to twine, how long do you think it would take?

alternatively if his stuff isnt password protected, couldn't we port stuff to twine in his stead?

just saying it could be a nice an easy project we could be have going on /dgg/, /hgg/ and /weg/

Not too mention we wouldn't have all the problems like slablands had with people losing interest because we're merely porting it over instead of writing up new content

But irregardless, this is only if whorelock isnt porting to Twine
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>>6771132
I thought he was done making that game. Why bother porting it? I mean, if it was a game in progress and porting it would speed up progress (like Elysium) sure. But there's no point in porting a game unless the engine is obsolete or broken, or you want to open it up to player modding.

My argument for using Twine/HTML/QSP was from a designer's standpoint. So porting it should only be done if someone is picking it up to modify or add onto it.
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>>6771139
>I thought he was done making that game
>whorelocks revenge is finished
why didn't anyone tell me this?

sure I've never finished it, but still it hurts
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>>6771090
>no seriously, i think its summer in america currently so we get alot of shitposters here
Summer is two months away, anon. You can't blame your favourite boogieman quite yet.

I always find it amusing how delusional some people are. "It can't be MY group of people, it must be others showing up and tainting this sacred place!"
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>>6771090

>no seriously, i think its summer in america currently so we get alot of shitposters here

Not for another two months.
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>>6771132
>/dgg/, /hgg/ and /weg/
/hgg/ has very little overlap with /dgg/ and /weg/ has even less. /weg/ is literally just /stg/ so I would rather they not even know about our existence.
But feel free to start porting it over yourself. Both Twine and RAGS are incredibly easy to learn. Don't just sit there hoping that someone smarter than you will show up and make you look good by association.
Also,
>irregardless
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>>6771172
>gardless
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Question of any of the negative three RAGS devs here: Is are RAGS files interpreted or compiled?
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>>6771178
My (limited) understanding is that they're basically databases. So... interpreted, I guess?
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>>6771100
After he finishes the next No Haven release he'll probably go back to trying to get twine to work and porting Whorelock onto it.
Generally he goes back to No Haven after working on Whorelock for a while because he at least knows what he's doing in RAGS and it doesn't frustrate him as much.

>>6771153
Its not finished, he said the other day that there's supposed to be a whole section full of slimes that's not in the current version.

>>6771139
He's porting to twine because its a new engine to learn.
If he gets good at it then >>6771124
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Are skyrim porn mods Ok to talk about here? Anyone got recommendations for anything not named devious
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>>6771247
0sex
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>>6771247
>Are skyrim porn mods Ok to talk about here?
Technically no. They're Western in nature.
But the mods don't care about actually following the rules, so feel free.
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>>6771139
Whatever his reasons, it's a good way for him to become a lot more popular. A game that any casual can just click on and instantly open in a browser will find a vastly larger audience than RAGS shit.
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In Girl's Life where do I find the player's biological father?
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>>6771264
You ask your mom and stepdad about it. Then you go to the road outside your village and ask the truckers there about it. Eventually you learn he's at the city northern area storage place at Sat 12PM or maybe 2PM, something like that.

You may have to follow all the steps in the quest to get him to start spawning there.
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>>6771090
I take it you missed the 'Bedlam's a bit of a cunt' consensus from /d/ then. Fully admit I could have dealt with it better but lessons were learned and I really don't mind it now.

>>6771100
On the off chance you aren't joking you might want to double check the day I posted that.

>>6771132
Spent January and Feb doing it and it's slow going due to my unfamiliarity and Twine being deeply awkward in keeping many, many sets of 'ifs' straight. By the way if anyone has a good way of managing them I would appreciate it.

Think I got the the character creation for a couple of races and most of the map generation for the first two areas done though.

>>6771153
Whorelock's is absolutely not finished. Fuck I've had the Bonds of Insanity and Tangle Infection disabled due to not being entirely happy with the implementation for yonks now. Loads of text needs expanding and updating. There's a ton of plot hooks from the graffiti I need to pay off and when all that's done I want to expand it with a bunch of new areas including oozes, drow, succubi, a drider character to mess with you, other fetter-thralls that will compete with you and you can possibly dominate your self and a whole bunch more.
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>>6771248
I'm more into fetishy stuff which devious stuff has. I'm more talking about mods which aren't devious named because I have all of those which I enjoy. I do enjoy the Stripped again mod. Simple but good
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>>6771249
Oh damn. Well might as well keep the topic on track then, I'll avoid talking about it here, thanks. Even if mods suck I come here for proper porn games so may as well keep it at that
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>>6771271
For the first two sentences of this post I thought you were shitposting at that guy.
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>>6771275
>Twine being deeply awkward in keeping many, many sets of 'ifs' straight. By the way if anyone has a good way of managing them I would appreciate it.
You should learn how to manage variables in efficient pattern. Not sure how RAGS works on this part but when I started using twine I was lost in ifs for some time as well.
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>>6771275
>Twine being deeply awkward in keeping many, many sets of 'ifs' straight

Proper indents, line breaks and commenting makes all the difference, and it's a damn good idea to get into the habit of doing all that anyway.
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>>6771286
Does Twine not allow require/allow brackets or something?
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>>6771291
Example Twine if statement:

<<if $foo is 1>><<set $bar to 2>><</if>>

Same thing done better:

//foo checker
<<if foo is 1>>
<<set bar to 2>>
<</if>>
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>>6771286
Oh so you can indent in Twine. I was wondering about that. Cheers.

>>6771283
I know many, many people will disagree, but one thing RAGS does is handle conditions in a very visual intuitive manner, at least it does to me now anyway but I will fully admit I'm in an abusive relationship with the bloody thing.
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>>6771298
4chan ate the indent on the second chunk of code but you get the idea.
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Does anyone know if FCDev is going to improve deflowering scenes? They feel kinda boring as-is.
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>>6771302
They recently became a lot more valuable if lost to whoring/public use, so it might be on his to-do list. You might want to suggest spicing up deflowering on his blog.
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>>6771300
Since recently I prefer to think about any visual program interfaces as of crutch. It just takes bit of time and experience to realize you don't go with 'ifs' like pic related.
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>>6771304
To be fair at least I know not to do that, but yeah you're totally right on the crutch thing. Yikes, that's horrifying.
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>>6771298
Man, that's ugly syntax. I've always felt that C and its derivatives have the most aesthetically appealing code.
>>6771304
In what situation would this ever be reasonable? It seems like they're just trying to do a Switch statement as inefficiently as possible.
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>>6771307
It seems reasonable because the person who wrote it has no idea that there is a better solution.
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>>6771308
Even then, I would assume that the default would be having 61 separate if statements.
It would be just as inefficient, but I could understand someone doing it more.
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>>6770302
>coding up my own engine

enginedev why

>>6771304
i see that line number and pray for a swift death
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>>6771316
Oh god I didn't even notice that

How? Why?
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>>6771307
He's trying to randomly assign a name.

I think the obvious solution here, for someone who's spent half a day learning to code instead of 45 minutes, would be to simply declare an array filled with 60 names, generate a random number from 0 to 59, and then access that index of the array.
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>>6771312
I've seen some shit from my time working on Minecraft servers. The shit that bad, self-taught programmers think is reasonable is... disturbing.

>>6771316
>>6771317
IIRC, that screenshot is from a game someone here was re-writing the engine for.
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>>6771319
Yeah.
The only problem is that true random doesn't actually exist, so there would be some names that would show up less on average.
Not a real problem, but just a thing that always annoyed me.
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>>6771324
don't use a garbage rng then? this has been a solved problem for literally decades
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>>6771319
Can you do arrays in HTML? I was under the impression that it couldn't handle pointers.
>>6771324
Some names would show up less often even with a truly random system.
And rand() % 60 is close enough to random that a human would never be able to tell.
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>>6771330
>Can you do arrays in HTML?

fucking why
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>>6771330
No, you can't. Because HTML is markup you moron.
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>>6771324
>>6771330
>The only problem is that true random doesn't actually exist
>Some names would show up less often even with a truly random system.

are you high or something?
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>>6771334
He's right. A truly random system would result in some names coming up less. Because it's random, not evenly distributed.
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>>6771336
but anon the names are unique
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>>6771331
>>6771333
Calm the fuck down, I meant to type JavaScript. It's four in the morning.
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>>6771338
Technically arrays don't exist in Javascript. Everything is this weird pseudo map-like structure that can pretend to be an array if you only ever use integer keys.
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>>6771337
That... doesn't change anything.
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>>6771340
I think he was trying to say that a name cannot be chosen twice.
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>>6771338
Arrays are possible in javascript, yes. However, arrays within twine markup are pretty neutered, so you have to be ready to exit twine code and use pure javascript if you want to do anything beyond the simplest array manipulation.
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>>6771340
In a truly random system, an RNG would be biased towards certain numbers between 1 and 60

u high or pedant m8
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>>6771343
We're in agreement there.
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>>6770903
>Genuinley curious; What would make people happy? What do they want?
For lazy cunts to learn to use google.
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>>6771093
I think the drugs might be bugged in the latest version.

At least when used on NPCs. Not sure about the player.

>>6771302
>>6771303
Didn't virginity restoration surgery basically make virginity a pointless gimmick? Or does restored virginity not count as "real" for certain purposes?
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>>6771275
Twine uses JavaScript.
JavaScript has a switch statement. I'd strongly advise using that/getting familiar with it.
Also please use arrays instead of tons of variables set by hand like I have seen most Twine games use.
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>>6771093
>>6771355
Yeah, breast and penis enlarge and shrink drugs are currently broken in HHS+
Normally when they are functioning, each tier of the drugs will increase your size to a limit, with the final strongest set increasing them to max size.

It being bugged kills my boner, I enjoy fucking my girls and giving them growth drugs, so that as I fuck them more their tits get bigger.
That being said, you can always go into the debug menu, bottom right, and manually change the size of everything, on everyone.
If you're going for "Accurate gameplay" with that, TF drugs take two weeks to work to full effect.
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>>6771316
Because I want it to be as easy as possible to add new content, which will then speed up my own process of creating it and I'd only have to touch the engine itself when adding entirely new or overhauling old features.
I also want it to be a procedurally generated RPG and I have failed to find an engine allowing me as much freedom as I'd need for that.
I could only use some parts of open source engines for what I want to do and that'd be it.

Also, why not? It's a fun little hobby.
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>>6771386
What really disappointed me was that you can't give shrinking drugs to sleeping people after breaking into their houses at night.
Be a cunt to your principal? Enjoy your mysterious nightly tit-shrinkage, bitch.
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>>6771336
>Because it's random, not evenly distributed.
A truly random system with the same chance for each result will come closer and closer to an even distribution the more often it is used and most likely eventually reach even distribution.
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>>6771348
This.
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>>6771389
yeah but you can only enter the houses of specific event characters, not everyone has a house.

One of the things that's been suggested is dosage cutting.
Currently if you use the max grade drug you get the maximum effect.
So dosage cutting would be used to get less of an effect.
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>>6771390
Yes. But practically, it won't.
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>>6771400
That's the thing, it will get closer and closer to it, in theory and practice, provided it is truly random.
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>>6771390
>and most likely eventually reach even distribution.

Only if number of interations is inf. And than you still have to deal with inf. strings of the same name coming up.
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>>6771395
>yeah but you can only enter the houses of specific event characters, not everyone has a house.
I've been thinking about suggesting "generic" housing, where you pick whose house you want to break into, and the game teleports you to a generic room and moves the relevant NPC family into position. It would be a way to allow you to enter anyone's house without having to create hundreds of actual locations/rooms.

Not much reason to yet, though. Not much you would be able to do in generic random NPC homes.

>Currently if you use the max grade drug you get the maximum effect.
Yeah, that's annoying. There's no way to downgrade or cap the effect.
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>>6771090
>Lewd is shat on for supposedly offering shit payments to the people who write his porn
Most of those who shit on lewd are people who simply are butthurt the dev won't give cash to creators of the content they like or past creators who got hyped by fenoxo's success and expecting to be able to support themselves for writing a few pages of smut. I would say overall that the dev is pretty alright - not only plenty of people who even paid nothing, didn't fund any patreon etc got access, even the patreon privileged only have to drop a paltry few bucks - much less than many other lewd games creators request. Almost all of that cash already goes into maintaining the server and the cash for writers - it simply cannot be increased further without requesting people to pay more. And since there's not many volunteers wanting to write anything quality for free, he has to work with what he has got.
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>>6771406
Most likely well before that, but for infinite iterations the probability of an even distribution is 1.
But this is just talking about theory of RNGs anyway. If you are looking at the results one person gets, you will most likely have some sort of bias, albeit usually one hard to notice.
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>>6771409
doesn't sound to bad
I'll give his game another shot

also anyone here played flexible survival and no a way to turn off the evacuation time?
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>>6771430
>no a way
god fucking hell its late
need to bed
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>>6771408
I'm actually curious if generic housing would be possible.

I hear that after they get 1.07 stable the next update will be the paperdoll system update.
For the longest time the paperdolls had no boobs because of a file path error, but because of the "paperdoll system" update in the future, it wasn't on any priority to fix.
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any new at least somewhat /d/ games?
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>>6771457
player as a sub games that is
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>>6771458
The Spooktacular Hospital came out a few weeks ago and its not too bad

its got sub content in it, although i'm not sure its the game you're looking for

its in development
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>>6771457
wife trainer
You're a guy that gets commissioned to help people's wives with their problems, one is too frigid, one is overweight and not happy about her body image, the last wants to become a better exhibitionist
Really early but a decent amount of content, three base "classes" being playboy, hypnotist and naturally dominate man.
Hypno/BDSM for fetish stuff
It's photo based and rags though so most people won't want it.
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>>6771464
>You're a guy that gets commissioned to help people's wives with their problems
Any cuckage, or are the husbands aware of all the fucking that is presumably going to ensue?
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>>6771464
got a link?
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>>6771473
http://www.hypnopics-collective.net/smf_forum/index.php?topic=21766.0
>>6771470
They are aware, well the core 3 are that have the actual management going on. Adultery is available with two other characters though.
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>>6771482
>Adultery is available with two other characters though.
Not the other guy, but I think I'll skip it then. Adultery is boner poison, even if I don't pursue those characters.
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>>6771485

One of them leads to the husband blowing your brains out. Not sure if the other does if you don't get the husbands consent first.
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can anyone direct me to a Hentai game about a robot that falls from the sky, and over the course of like a week you install something in your mom's and sisters' and teacher's brains that makes it so you can control them?

I've been looking for ages but I don't know the name
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>>6771489
Sounds like either robozou or a/the remake.
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>>6771490
Thank you very much!
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>>6771482
>>6771464

wew, that wife trainer is pretty fun
still struggling to break those 3 bitches, though
any tips?
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>>6771482
Any download links that don't require an account?
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>>6771649
https://mega.nz/#!3Isy0QIT!D_1doW9d8HAR24byB6Dqf_8sPYZgE_FXBinrWuFNTi8
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>>6771657
Cheers
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So any tips for making money in FC? I have the economy set to normal and even with like 10 whores im losing like 2k a week.
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>>6771735
Keep training short for money making fodder slaves. Once they fear you and have no quirks, throw them in a brothel or arcade. The longer you spend trying to make them love you, the more money you're burning. Only bother getting affection from your leadership position slaves. Most new players make the mistake of thinking every slave should/needs to love them.

Brothel and milk production are the big cash earners from slaves, based on thread discussion.
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I wish I could automate virginity restoration in FC.

I want my hated enemies to continually lose their virginity in the gloryhole.
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>>6771764
>Gloryhole
>For torturing your enemy

You should use a public use stockade instead. Preferably one beneath a 40 foot banner of her face.
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>>6771771
>You should use a public use stockade instead.

We don't have those in FC, as you must be already aware. We only have wallbutts, arbitrarilly termed as "gloryholes".
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>>6771735
Train perfect beautiful waifus and then sell them for 400k each, or go mass cheap production like the other guy said.
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>>6771785
>Selling otherwise profitable slaves
>Not being into rent-seeking economic behaviour

I bet your archaeology still uses the gold standard, you philistine.
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>>6771795
>I bet your archaeology

I can't tell if this is a typo or inspired sarcasm.
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>>6771795
As far as I could tell it would take something like 100-200 turns of whoring for any of my whores to pay for themselves, given that I was only selling them at "Very high" slave prices after market bubble events.

Even if I was going to play for that long, simply taking the 400k and sitting on it for a hundred turns would give me astronomical wealth, given the game's huge interest rate on the player's stored money.
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>>6771865
Excess cash generates interest now? How much?
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>>6771935
2 or 3 percent but it depends on whether or not you're set to focus on business that week, and probably on difficulty too. There's a minimum amount of money for it to kick in, too.
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>>6771953
>3%/week compounded interest

Jesus Christ, who even needs slaves?

That will quadruple (460%) your wealth each year alone. Not even including investment or arcology rents.
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>>6771953
You need >1k cash to start getting interest. It's 2% a week without business focus, 2.5% with it. Which is a rate that any investment banker would give his left nut for.
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So, I found a /d/ games thread from 5 years ago.

Notice how less anal people used to be with relative disinterest. Then notice what games they are talking about, deduce how few noteable games we got in half a decade, and despair.
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>>6771998
I belive most posters from that time deceased anyway.
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>>6771998
Anon that thread only got a post every half hour
the /dgg/ of now is far more active therefor superior

also speaking of Pornarium, every time i try to play it, it fucks up
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>>6772010
I-I'm still alive.

>>6772012
/d/ was way comfier then, though.
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How come we don't have fairy fighting in the pastebin?

Whoever's in charge should add it. It's a classic /d/ game, and it's also finished, now.
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>>6771998
>mods start banning half the people that are part of a comfy community
>alienate the other half with their arbitrary application of the rules
>community is now less inviting than it used to be
Yeah, I wonder why things turned out this way.
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>>6772039
>jews are to blame
Sure thing anon.
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>>6772018
>tfw /d/ had a bdsm era where bdsm porn was posted as much as futa is now
I miss the golden age.
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Does anyone know how the people who are editing the GirlQuest game actually do it? Quest doesn't let you open the .qsp file.
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Any decent games with parasites?
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>>6772111
>tfw found 4Chan through a /d/ BDSM thread
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There's a Patreon up for a futadom-world dating sim, looks pretty interesting

https://www.patreon.com/FutadomWorld_Game?ty=h
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>>6772048
But i thought Jews were to blame for /d/ existing in the first place?
aren't they the advocators of degeneracy?
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>>6772123
>futadom
Unless I'm playing as the futa and doing the dom'ing, I'll be passing on this one.
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>>6770597
's why we have gelding.

>>6771007
FC modding is more interesting, but the rate of updates keeps the number at any one time down.
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>>6770675
yes
http://tfgamessite.com/index.php?module=viewgame&id=333
not exactly what you're looking for, but the combat does consist of "changing them into something different" with health being "how transformed they are".
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So about that new fetish update in Free Cities. Are all fetishes equal to one another in terms of income-increase? That is, is an oral fetish just as good as an anal fetish just as good as a vanilla fetish just as good as a cum fetish for the purposes of whoring?
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>>6772123
keking at the premise
>A new empire has taken over, its oppressive reach covers all areas of life. A few brave freedom fighters are all that stands between The Empire and total control over its inhabitants. You are a male citizen of the Empire, you are oppressed and objectified at every turn. Time to find love. Or at least something close to it.
>oppression is not being deepdicked by futas
>freedom/love is being deepdicked by futas
>by romancing one of several stereotypes to the point that she'll deign to choke you out with her cock, fight objectification and government control
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Girl life guide goes on about "bimbo dresses"

Are these actually in the game yet? I can't find anything like them
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>>6772220

I thought it was just any slutty dress in combination with blond hair/heavy makeup
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>>6772241
I'll try that

I'm running out of stuff to do that doesn't require me being an all out slut
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>>6772120
http://www.tfgamessite.com/index.php?module=viewgame&id=847
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>>6771409
Lewd sounded like a scam, with a desperate con man at the helm. I would have no problem contributing to CoC/TiTS despite actively disliking Fen, but something about the way Lewd popped up across boards makes me leery.

>>6772039
I missed the Night of Long Dicks, but when I pop in after a year of not-/d/ and the first thing I see is dire warnings of bans for posting """western""" art...
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>>6772160
Oh my god that opening done in caveman speak is funny as shit.
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>>6771630
Would love some tips as well. I've broken Elsa and got her as a girlfriend, but the other two still always leave me. Are there any more? In the model credits when you start the game it says there are two more girls, are they not in yet?
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>>6772220
>>6772241
>>6772243

The patch just released (or being released this week?) is introducing the new clothing system. So if it's not out now, it will be soon. Or you can always pick up the beta game version from the game thread (not the TFGameSite entry)
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>>6771998
What is Nimin and Pornarium?

in b4 Google it, srsly, this is a discussion, lets talk about things.
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>>6772308
>Nimin
CoC's adopted brother
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>>6772308
Nimin is like CoC if you removed all of the transformations and non-furry content.
Pornarium is a long dead project that was mediocre back when it was alive.
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>>6772308
nimin is an ALL FURRY ALL THE TIME CoC-like, iirc older than CoC itself

pornarium is a CoC clone with awful code and no furries or content

after the fen clusterfuck, getting people on board a smutgame is next to impossible
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>>6772311
>Nimin is like CoC if you removed all of the transformations and non-furry content.
And the obnoxiously forced waifus.
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>>6770947
Seconding this. The download requires a key. Any way around it?
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>>6772309
>>6772311
>>6772312
man, what's up with this shit.

So what's the thing you guys are looking for most in a /d/game?
Myself, I've been too interested in generic TFs since forever, so its gots to have BE in it at least.
I'm actually wondering if Girl Life has magical TFs, I found a fairy in the park that I think makes my face more attractive but doesn't actually seem to.
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>>6772353
"CoC clone" isn't an insult any more than roguelike is, it's a genre~
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Hey Pastebin guy!
>HH+: https://www.henthighschool.com/hhs-development/hhs-1-07-alpha-preview-release-(rev-1301)
Should be HHS+
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Any games like Trapquest? Love the style.
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>>6771998
Man, there really wasn't much in the porn game community back then. I feel like now we're spoiled for choice.
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>>6771330

Twine uses javascript as underlying engine, so yeah, arrays work
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>>6771343

literally can't tell if you're retarded or shitposting

truly random system as it approached large numbers would have a flat distribution. this is a basic law of math.
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>>6771381

and even better, you can use arrays of objects so you can keep your variables clean and readable if you want
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>>6772111

since oldfag old

that was the /d/ i loved and expected when I stumbled onto dgg a couple months ago, not /d/ickgirl.

only irl I knew from then now just full time trolls scientology so…
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>>6772820
>arrays work
>but not pointers
So it's not really an array.
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>>6771408
>>6771386

From the drugs I was able to make, the largest I could get my own size to was "Larger" in the current build. Annette was able to get to gigantic.

I did find a round about way of getting to gigantic though. The penis pump/pills you buy online allow you to go past "larger", but you can only order them when you are at "large" or below. I tested it by playing around with debugger a bit to test it while spamming 12 hour sleep sessions for time sensitive changes.

Haven't done it yet on my legit file, but my plan is to use the futa cure to shrink myself, since reducer doesn't seem to work. While I'm shrinking and regrowing through homemade drugs I'll stock up on pills/pump to go all the way.
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Any games like Trap Quest?
Also stuff with bondage :3
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>>6772369
okay fixd it
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>>6772118
Because the game was never written with the software you are using in the first place.
Go read the tfgamessite page of it again.
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>>6772841
Javascript doesn't have arrays. It has maps masquerading as arrays.
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>>6772362
It's bullshit. I can accept "CoC clone" as some generalized description because CoC is the most popular, but it's hardly a genre - text games like it existed since decades, they just weren't porn or propagated too much. Hell, I even made some myself as a kid somewhere in 90s, in a simplified rip-off of Pascal, in one native, much simplier than things like RAGS or Twine text game maker or (though never finished and it died rather quickly) in Basic.
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>>6772286
>Lewd sounded like a scam, with a desperate con man at the helm. I would have no problem contributing to CoC/TiTS despite actively disliking Fen, but something about the way Lewd popped up across boards makes me leery.

I can kind of udnerstand where you come from. But since I know of Lewd even before it went looking for financial support and I've exchanged a few messages with the dev, while I cannot be sure how far it'll go, I am pretty sure it's not intended as a scam. It's small and develops slowly, but I suspect it's because rather ambitious approach to it - the guy doesn't just make another CoC, he tries to code together and host server for some sort of unholy (but interesting) merge of typical CoC-like porn game and MMO - that's kind of risky in itself. As long as he doesn't really ask for any substantial amount of cash and is even willing to provide some folks for free, I reckon him worth of risking cash equivalent of a single beer bottle.
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>>6771630
It's doable but you're not expected to break all 3.
Don't let the exhibitionist get photographed or the husband calls off the arrangement since he probably gets outed as a cuck and shamed.

>>6772292
They give you a few days without clients so you can focus on side characters like the neighbor or visit town. Just play more and you get 2.5 clients(the .5 is a one time gig with a swinger couple which I think is 1 way to unlock one of the town locations)
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>>6770721
Slavs are the tinkerers of games world. True to the stereotype, where others ambitiously build great things from grounds up or dream about such knowing they're out of their reach, slavs take some decent but limited shit, hack and mutate it in crazy ways and then push out some great if unexpected things than wouldn't happen even in opinion of engine/game creators and maybe even shouldn't work, but they work anyway.
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>>6772982
>>6772308
Nimin came before CoC. Fenoxo asked permission from the Nimin dev to make his own extremely similar game.

The development of Nimin slowed to a crawl, and CoC ended up with twenty times as much content, so everyone remembers CoC.

Calling something a "coc clone" is a matter of opinion, but it's a fact that after CoC exploded in popularity, shitloads of other people started making text based flash porn games with similar gameplay and a similar interface. A lot of them are furshit so they don't get discussed here but personally I don't really notice or care about furry shit when it's in text form.
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>>6772996
Wrong. So, so wrong.

Fenoxo originally started with Unnamed Text Game. UTG became CoC, and Nimin is built using UTG's source code, heavily modified at this point.
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>>6772998
I must have it backwards then, Nimin dev asked Fenoxo for permission.

I know Nimin had a lot more content in the beginning, it took CoC time to catch up, so I misremembered that Nimin came first.
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>>6772991
>slavs are literally Orks
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>>6773011
as a professional slav programmer with a slav programmer mom i can confirm this is true

slav code utility is inversely proportional to its elegance

(did you know that in the ancient days of the soviet union programming was considered a woman-only thing? physics was the manliest)
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What do you mean by play more? Is there a certain time where you unlock new wives?
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>>6773012
>did you know that in the ancient days of the soviet union programming was considered a woman-only thing?

It was that way in the early computing days of the West as well. See Lovelace, Leavitt and Hermann. In fact at one point "computer" was the nickname for women or groups of women involved in Maths, because that was the branch they were most associated with.
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>>6772312
Nimin is actually based on code from the old UTG and evolved parallel to it.
Still dead and furry as shit though.
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I don't know guys.
It's cool that we get a hardcoded slave or two at the beginning of our game in Free Cities.
But I just made 100k in the first round of the game by doing nothing else but simply selling the one I got. Going even further to wait for a very high slave price would be pretty cheesy, but you can imagine how much more I might've gotten for her.
I personally think this should be looked at, because atm it's fairly unreasonable how much rng messes around with your game start.
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>>6773055
I'd go so far to say FC have no balance in first place to complain about. Not that its necessarily a bad thing.
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>>6772369
Is HHS anywhere near good yet?
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>>6773055
Yeah, if you ever get the hardcoded slave Dragon Goddess Chae Won or whatever forget about difficulty because she's a quarter of a million on a good day.
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>>6773064
Never had her actually.
I just got 'Fucknugget' Pillow and received the 100k on an average week.
Who's your favorite hardcoded slave, guys?
But you can't choose one, if you were her original owner.
I personally liked the one named after a Fruit the most. I think it was Strawberry.
Her name managed to wake up my imagination and so she helped me greatly to make my slaves unique.
Thanks to her, one of my slaves is lactating strawberry juice.
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>>6773064
I got The Liberty Whore or whatever once who scored like 375k on high market. She's an amputee with giant tits. I think she may be the single most valuable basic slave.
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>>6773060
I enjoy it, needs more events though.
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>>6773060
I like it because I'm into scheming and sandbox porn. It's incomplete and sort of buggy, but still fun if you don't mind working for your lewds.
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>>6771464
>wife trainer
tfw I just utterly failed trying to be dominant
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>>6771464
>be playboy
>fuck neighbor wife
>he finds out
>he's out to kill me
>flee
>GAME OVER
welp
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Are there any reliable sources of mindbroken slaves in FC? I wanted to play a good guy slaveowning autocrat rapist, but I can't find any broken slaves to nurse back to sanity.
Fucking them up myself just so I can feel like a hero by helping them seems vaguely counterproductive.

If there are no such events/schools, I hereby request them. Better still if you don't simply buy them from somebody whose business model is to use your money to break more of them, since that would, again, feel somewhat counterproductive.

Maybe a low-budget operation that collects used up slaves with no potential (near-irreversible flaws like mindbroken, gaping holes, amputated limbs, extremely old, and so on) and sells them. Maybe it could even be sort of a charity "free to a good home" sort of thing.
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>>6773388
>Kind of want an option to put robot limbs on quadriplegics so I can have a cyborg gladiator as a bodyguard.
Either that, or at least have something I can do when I get a quadriplegic from the last owner.
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Just tried out Hounds of the blades, fun game
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>>6773388
Robot limbs are just the beginning.
We are going to expand on this and start modifying eyes and the brain. First our slaves, then every citizen as necessary. This shall be our first step towards our perfect race of cyborgs!
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>>6773503
Just brain chip them to obey and you're done. Instant utopia.

Maybe not for the non-god-kings, but who cares what they think?
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>>6773427
I remember around when amp content was first being implemented someone posted a picture of a girl who had last all her limbs, was covered in bandages, and was breathing through a tube got the Adam Jensen treatment. I regret not saving it now.
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>>6773388
>good guy slaveowning autocrat rapist
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>>6773527
Well, maybe he like dogs for all you know.
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>>6773388
Damn it, now I really want to take in broken slaves as well. Could be a way of increasing reputation among the masses.
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>>6773427
It's no use, I've asked him around version 0.3-0.4 and he said no, other people asked later and he still said no
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I just can't get into games where I can't be a trap
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>>6773692
>tfw too old and too manly to actually become a trap
end my suffering please
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FC robotic limbs/modifications mod when?
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>>6773709
when you make it
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>>6773697
Thats why I want to play those games where I can be the trap
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>>6773716
But I suck and have no talent. I don't want to do some shitty shit job on them.
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Free Cities 0.6.7, "Partial Inversions," up at freecitiesblog.blogspot.com. Just as planned, this is a maintenance update which adds events, fills content holes, fixes bugs, and expands the encyclopedia (a lot). It may be save compatible, with the likely exception of nipples: this update adds various nipple shapes, and old saves will likely default all slaves to "cute" nipples. Good girls were getting too many placeholder events, so there are three new random events for them: masturbation in bed, public fetish display, and pent-up sex drive. Added a bunch of options to starting girl customization, including lactation, pregnancy, nipples, and family relations. All future societies now have acquisition events. The Hard Work and Force PC customization options no longer suck ass. Content ideas request: more sexual flaws. I'll take at least two interesting ideas.
>what is the pic
FC open in Twine

>>6773055
>>6773058
>>6773064
>>6773072
>>6773073
Balance comes later. I stopped trying to fix anything but the most ridiculously imbalanced bullshit a long time ago. Much easier to address balance once, for 1.0.

>>6773547
>>6773388
>Maybe it could even be sort of a charity "free to a good home" sort of thing.
Opportunity to do good works with St. Abiectum's Home for Broken Sex Slaves? Caaaan do!

>>6773523
>I remember around when amp content was first being implemented someone posted a picture of a girl who had last all her limbs, was covered in bandages, and was breathing through a tube got the Adam Jensen treatment. I regret not saving it now.
.../r/ing this, please.

>>6773388
>I wanted to play a good guy slaveowning autocrat rapist
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>>6773727
Hey I was getting really bad errors after I set up the milking parlor where these red error blocks would show up saying <if/> pregnancy value was missing. It hasn't gone away I can send some screens later after I can access my comp if you want.
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>>6773716
I didn't mean mod I meant canon content. My bad.
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>>6773727
>Content ideas request: more sexual flaws.
Standards, girl hates fucking ugly/poor people.
Racist, girl hates fucking people of other races.
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>>6773738
>>6773622
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>>6773727
Could have a certain "Hates Clothing X" flaw, like anything uncomfortable, or extremely revealing or maybe even "Hates being nude". Where left unchecked they try and cover themselves, and never get fully nude when they're with a John which could obviously cause problems. It can be soften to something they find excitement in the perversity of being on display for all, or for XY slaves (maybe even XX slaves) they can hate wearing anything categorized as feminine being visibly fidgety, etc. Soften to them secretly finding they enjoy being forced to be feminine, while still putting up a front of hating it.
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>>6773727
>an update is actually save-compatible
IT'S NICE TO STILL BE SURPRISED, DIRTBAG
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>>6773727
maybe an obsessed flaw, in which she really wants to do one thing, and gets upset when she can't. like if she's a breast fetishist, she would want to be milked or kept as a tit-fucktoy.
I don't know what its soften would be, maybe gives a bonus when she does what her fetish is, without the drawback.
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>>6773727
Why not scouting expeditions/raiding parties? The world outside the archology is a shit hole but I'd wager there are some good shits out there not to mention captives to be had.
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>>6773727
I don't suppose I could convince you to unrestrict a lot of the clothing again, could I? Not being able to give my multicultural harem proper slutty attire makes my boner kinda sad.
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>>6773727
I don't have she-Jensen, but I do have a girl who probably should be Jensen'd.
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>>6773727
>Opportunity to do good works with St. Abiectum's Home for Broken Sex Slaves? Caaaan do!

Awesome does that mean you will add it in?
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>>6773818
It was that exact girl, actually.
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>find an interesting-looking, new game on tfgames
>it's on RAGS
why do people still use that? it's not even that easy to get started with.
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>>6773841
Depends on how it is delivered, really.
Cursed and Newlife, for example, are ok on RAGS. Not much going on and the flow is not that awkward
No Haven, on the other hand, becomes painful, because there's so much shit to do and to keep track off
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>>6773853
>No Haven, on the other hand, becomes painful, because there's so much shit to do and to keep track off
That's exactly the one I was talking about.
He's porting his other game from the same setting to Twine, so is there any chance of NH being ported too?
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>>6773758
>maybe even "Hates being nude"
That's the Shamefast flaw.
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Does anybody who's played wife trainer know if it's possible to get Nicole's husband in on her training? He seems interested when you get invited to dinner and I want to know if it is possible to romance her without getting shot.
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>>6773853
newlife never used rags, the chaste priestdev is a java """programmer"""
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>>6773727
How can I close that damn glossary
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>>6773523
>>6773727
>>6773818
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>>6773892
but does she have a robotic dick?
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Hotfix up: save compatible.

>>6773891
>How can I close that damn glossary
Apply the hotfix I just uploaded, that's how. At least I keep finding new ways to embarrass myself.

>>6773734
>Hey I was getting really bad errors after I set up the milking parlor where these red error blocks would show up saying <if/> pregnancy value was missing. It hasn't gone away I can send some screens later after I can access my comp if you want.
If it's still happening in the latest update, please do.

>>6773780
>Why not scouting expeditions/raiding parties? The world outside the archology is a shit hole but I'd wager there are some good shits out there not to mention captives to be had.
Maybe in an event or two, but raiding as a major mechanic will keep for the next game. FC has to be limited somehow.

>>6773794
>I don't suppose I could convince you to unrestrict a lot of the clothing again, could I? Not being able to give my multicultural harem proper slutty attire makes my boner kinda sad.
How about a Multiculturalism FS that (among other things) unlocks all the clothes? I'm sure /pol/ would love that.

>>6773826
>Awesome does that mean you will add it in?
Yes.

>>6773892
Fucking yes. Sexy cyborgs is what Tits could have had rather than furshit waifu #849.
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>>6771304
>>6771305
>>6771307
>>6771308
>>6771312
>>6771316
>>6771317
That's from Tainted Elysium, which I decompiled with the intent of modding. Obviously, I decided it was more worth my time to just rewrite everything.

I'm currently rewriting it in a new engine in HTML5 since Flash is going to die soon. There's a thread in the weightgaming forums about it.

Also, the if-trees from hell are just the tip of the iceberg. That's a global which is used as a holder for integers returned from functions. Code typically looks like:

> Arg1=0;
> Arg2=1;
> rand();
> // Do things with Rint

Instead of:

> var rndNum:int = rand(0,1);
> // Do things with rndNum

I'd really like to tutor him on this shit but he's never on and is going through some shitty stuff with his life.
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>>6773908
That kinda runs into the same issue of having to sacrifice one of my future societies just for clothing that's already bothering me. Like, it already doesn't feel great to have to sink into something like say Physical Idealism and all it's associated perks and penalties when all I care about is making sure my bodyguard and a pair of gladiators are nice and oiled up.

If the clothing had mechanical benefits, I'd understand locking them away, but as far as I'm aware the differences between the nice clothing options are just cosmetic.
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>>6773908
>>Awesome does that mean you will add it in?
>Yes.

Awesome. I also want to second the other anon's recommendation. Could they also be selling very old slaves or ugly amps etc? Two three types beyond mindbroken slaves that would be considered generally undesirable.

I'm an unconditionally good oversexed oligarch
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>>6773908
I saw it mentioned before but I don't think I've seen a response. Will there be any way to make a fully female slave grow a dick? This way you can add an upgrade to the dairy to allow cockmilking? This way I can have loads of semen and buckets of milk flowing from my arcology? Currently the only way to get a fully female slave(ovaries) is to either make a custom start one, the lab raid event, and the special order slave.
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>>6771430
type "iwannacheat"
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>>6773956
Sick
(now just to spawn items)
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>>6773972
can't do that, but with the hunter cheat and event names, you can quickly go through events and get through tons of game content in much less time
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>>6773948
FCDev has the autistic desire to only allow technology that he believes will be possible in the next couple of decades. Growing a functional dick on a lady and making the biochemistry all work fine is a bit beyond that self-imposed limit.
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Do you guys know any games like TrapQuest in style? I downloaded Cursed and thoroughly enjoy Flexible Survival.
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>>6773908
Yo, can we get the option to add like cat/fox ears/tail
I want my sexy neko maids dammit.
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>>6773977
I wouldn't call it autistic. But you're right, he only wants to put in tech that's only a few decades away. However there's the possibility of a very wealthy arcology owner hiring a bunch of scientists to figure it out. That's how, story wise, I'd sell it.
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>>6773727
Could you add let us pick waist size and pussy lip size for starting slaves? With the changes to make it simpler to get the slave you want at startup, those two things are pretty much the only options (besides piercings, I guess) totally left at the whims of the RNG.

Also if you put up the reinforced shielding too early, the citizens stay mad at you for making the arcology ugly even after orange weather starts becoming more commonplace. I can't remember if their blind discontent continues through category 6 hurricanes.
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>>6774019

I think it wears off once you get your first serious business weather, or at least it used to in earlier versions.
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Oh man, I missed /d/ and games threads...
I remember several years ago when we discussed new things found in VH, lurking eluku99's blog for new material, toffisama's games, Castlevania clones, JSK studio's flash games, we even wrote tutorials for each other...
Man, every little game that came out including the RPG Maker stuff that we'd look up via DLSite codes, we had them.
I even ran a huge community torrent (We called it "vi/d/ya" kek) with a sorted collection of games by their DLSite code and names on another anon's seedbox, now I just have an external drive with a 2TB mess of unsorted stuff that I don't even feel like keeping but do so for the nostalgia goggles.
I'm glad the threads continued, but shit, this isn't it, it feels like reposts even with all the discussion in here and I can't put my finger on why...
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>>6774005
And I want my petgirls, but we can't all get what we want.
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>>6774033
A MOST UNCOMFY BOARD
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>>6774033
I remember you. I kept selectively downloading games from your torrent for around two years.

It seems to me that sometime between 2014 and now the board adopted the character of /v/. I kind of pitty the people who didn't get to experience /d/ when it was hellishly slow and incredibly chill.
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>>6773908

>How about a Multiculturalism FS that (among other things) unlocks all the clothes? I'm sure /pol/ would love that.

Maybe unrestrict the more fetishy costumes as just cosplay, and make the Revivalist version a nicer/realistic variant? Like a slutty Quipao and a nice one.
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>>6773908
>Fucking yes. Sexy cyborgs is what Tits could have had rather than furshit waifu #849.
So why can't we have them? They fit the setting.
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>>6773992
Trapquest is kind of a strange game, so it would depend on what you like about it. If its the sex sim aspect you might like nightgames.
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>>6774067
It makes me happy someone had use of them!
Do you (or anyone else) think a new torrent would be good nowadays?
I'm willing to make a new one, much bigger, if someone were to help with a seedbox.
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>>6774076

What, for FC? I'm pretty sure FCDev has said prosthetics/augmentations are eventually going to be in.
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>>6774082
Honestly, I don't think so. A lot of work is done through the pastebins and mega links, now, very efficiently.

I personally used it as a sorta-kinda starter pack, when I had no idea where to search for what, so I don't know if others might be interested, though.
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>>6773727
Brought it up a little bit ago, but I thought I'd do so again: cockrings?
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>>6774100
What about a Kimochi reboot? (RIP btw)
Only with a working financial plan and crowdfunding?
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>>6774109
Whatever that might be, I'm afraid I missed it back then, so I don't know what you're talking about.
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>>6773073

The high value might come from her having every surgery possible in whatever version I uploaded her from. Glad to know someone else found her useful.
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>>6774084
The only thing that was preventing me from enjoying the more 'transformation' type changes to slaves was that it was all the surface/un-erotic changes such as silicone/facial surgery IF we can get something along the lines of a more slower slave conversion facility that I've asked for quite a few times I'd be fully onboard. I just want my soul-less standardized slave maids. Also to somehow trick my mercenaries into said facility for reasons, don't need no gruff ugly men in my arcology.

Augment alternatives for hormones is what I want most though, so I can have semen/milk sluts that don't end up going through unwanted transformative effects, and the implication they are producing the utmost quantity feasible. But I'm gonna guess it'll be brushed off as 'unrealistic'

It would be nice if the arcology started sometime after a small war had ended and you could determine the losing nation for slave nationality buff. Would make it easier for me to collect Jap-traps in particular since everything else drowns them out. I'll provably just go back to manually buffing slave odds though.
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>>6774076
IIRC it's because of a supporter by the name of Urta(?)
I could be completely wrong but I heard Urta has been a large part of the furshit(which can be a given considering Fenoxo's past of CoC)
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>>6774182

Urta was Fenoxo's OC, and was the start of the furry waifu-fest that his first game became.
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>>6774195
Oh, I swear to god there was a mention of a donator that was a huge fucking furry.
maybe i'm just

crazy
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>>6774200
>a donator that was a huge fucking furry

WHICH ONE
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>>6774211
kek
fuckin, fuck

What do we do now that Fenoxo is hopelessly lost to the furries?
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>>6774229
The majority of donations actually went toward the end of game dungeon, which only got finished a month ago.
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>>6774232
Interesting. Have you heard anything about mods?
I know of only one for CoC but it's pretty good.
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> think about making CoC lite
> Make it so that you can have many concubines that are made pre-made and randomly generated
> have the heroines be somewhat customizable
> MC infinite customizability
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>>6774211

Exactly. Early CoC funding system relied effectively sold NPC slots to high-tier donators, so a crapload of furry OCs had to be put in.

>>6774195

Urta was Fen's OC, but the most grating part about her was that her "plot" was written before most of the game mechanics, so she ended up upset about a cock that anyone could easily remove by chugging enough purified liquids of one type or another. Other NPCs suffered from such inconsistencies as well, because no one ever bothered to go back over their lines with regard to the setting's internal consistency.

Of course, various levels of "my special snowflake is precious and how dare you hate it" contributed as well. Just look at that stupid fox who visits the campsite - how hard it is to even trigger his encounters, how insufferable they are, how much backlash there was when he was put in, and how Fen basically went "I got paid so this needs to be in" and washed his hands of the whole deal.

>>6774229
>What do we do now that Fenoxo is hopelessly lost to a business model?

FTFY. Without cutting off his revenue stream, Fen is never getting out of the rut (har) he dug himself into. Unless he gets fed up with the content he's writing (which is unlikely), he's just gonna keep on going.

The good news is that CoC opened up a field that practically didn't even exist beforehand. All we have to do is contribute by making shitty stuff and/or giving positive feedback to inspire better /d/evs into making /d/ games.
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>>6774258
>The good news is that CoC opened up a field that practically didn't even exist beforehand.

Pretty much. This is why CoC is an important game. It's historically significant.
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>>6774229
I'm conflicted cause I actually really like Helia and Helspawn and I dunno if it counts as furry
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>>6774368

CoC is vague on purpose, so that you can choose for yourself whether that horsegirl is an actual horseface. The implied in-game clues and supplemental material (fanart, stories, etc.) usually tip the matter one way or another, but the decision of what's canon (and therefore whether it's furry or not) is up to you.

The obvious exceptions are the explicit cases like the mousefolk, where the game specifically has a "defur" option.
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>>6773862
It's still in development, also he's having trouble with Twine because he's used to RAGS. He's learning as he goes, I understand, just like FCdev
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>>6774236
Get to it pls, CoC was a mistake and Slablands is dead. You can be the one to make things right.
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Well, bad news on the Elysium rework front.

1. There's 100-odd "morphs" in the SWF that are used in the little silhouette off to the side.
2. Each morph has 100-odd frames used in an animation.
3. In order to make this shit work properly, I'd have to export every frame of every morph as an SVG and then animate them using JS.
4. The only way to export morphs to SVG is with Flash CC. I only have a license for CS6.
5. Javascript to animate these morphs would cost $99/yr.

So fuck the sillhouette.
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>>6774008
If you really didn't give a single solitary fuck about ethics, you could just start transplanting dicks and figure out through trial and error how to balance immunosuppressants and which nerve endings to attach where.
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>>6774158
FC Dev said he was down for Saint de Sade's Home for Crippled Slaves, so with fixer-uppers being a thing I can see prostheses being introduced in the near future.
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>>6774521
If only it was possible for someone to illegally download licensed software from the internet. What a brave new world that would be.
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>>6774547
Flash CC is cloud-based.
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>>6774521
abort, abort, replace it with a placeholder and move on flash morphs do not belong in this world
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>>6773139
Don't let him find out duh. The hypnotist is the easiest way to get the neighbor(with the husbands consent too, fucking cuck).
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Wonder when A Life in Silk will be ready
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>>6774067
>incredibly chill.
I prefer hate.
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>>6774124
Steam/GoG for porn, IIRC.
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>>6774258
Good post, underrated. Should go into the whole CoC history file that's referenced from time to time. Especially that internal game consistency bit - how often that is ignored in so many games, from big to small (fuck you FF7's Aerith death tearjerker, I was fucking rolling in phoenix downs!).
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>>6774033
>Castlevania clones

Speaking of which, anyone got info on the work of that author who was making nice /d/ Castlevanias? Rimurimu ones or whatever? I remember he made his first game and then smaller second one which was more like a proof of concept, but after that he dropped off the radar.

I know there's blog somewhere but I wasn't even trying with that one since google translate still cannot handle moonrunes well.
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>>6774084
>>6774545

>>6773622
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>>6774664
>fuck you FF7's Aerith death tearjerker, I was fucking rolling in phoenix downs!
Just call combat-death "incapacitated" or whatever and avoid creating abilities with names like "decapitate". Is that so damn hard, devs?
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>>6774664
The CoC history file can go die in a fire. Pointless wankery.
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>>6774674
Puppies can go die in a fire. Pointless wankery.
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>>6774677
>those lips
What and/or why the metaphysical fuck
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>>6774677
It's either an edit or it was meant to show how great's the suction but the artist went full retard.
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>>6774691
I did an edit like this once, many years ago.
I shopped the dick sucking lips all the way down.
When I posted it the only comment it got was "You should shop a dick over those lips"
My time was wasted.
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>>6773908

In case your blog eats my comment, repeated here:

As a reviewer on tfg mentioned, it's a little weird that putting girls in the various facilities basically erases them from the game. This can obviously be a plus when dealing with large numbers of slaves, but there should be a way to customize it.

There should be a PER FACILITY customization for interactivity with 3 levels:

1. "They're in the box for a reason" - no mention of facility head or slaves in facility
2. "Keep an eye on the leaders" - facility head gets weekly description, but not slaves
3. "Control freak" - facility head AND slaves get descriptions every week
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>>6773908

Another little nag:

There really should be a way to free/marry a single slave. This is type of thing is already in-game (the "merc marriage" event), so obviously manumission and marriage is a thing in the FC world, and there could be enormous benefits to marriage--for example, having a wife carry heirs (as opposed to just slave children) would be an enormous prestige benefit for paternalistic/traditional societies, and since they'd be free, there would be no potential for sexualization (I imagine the wife would do the child rearing, and the children wouldn't really exist in-game, except perhaps as part of a weekly flavor text).

Plus the fetish potential is huge: overthrow competing arcology owner, enslave and brainwash her, and then marry her, or somesuch. I can see that really appealing to some people.
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>New FC is out
>dick is recovering from rip and I can't fap to it
Just end me now
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>>6771339

Wrong!

JS has arrays which happen to be an object type inheriting from type Object, and thus can have arbitrary attributes in addition to their integer keys.

Is this good design? Who cares? It works.
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>>6774783
>porn comes out
>it's too late in the day to wank then shower but too early to just wank because of seeing people
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>>6772986
>>6771630
>>6771464
I can never do the fat one

Also the only outcomes I've gotten are girlfriend, showgirl (but I didn't unlock the location) and teaching aide (neighbour)

Not sure how to use the hypno or dom starts to get their content with the wives

Feels like a game where you're expected to learn a very specific set of actions in order to get everything to go your way
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>>6774860
>Feels like a game where you're expected to learn a very specific set of actions in order to get everything to go your way
Bleh
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>>6774005
>>6774056
I wouldn't be surprised if that'd be natural development for FC. I mean, it's all about hedonistic, dying/twisted civilization, where elites indulge in all kinds of crap to strike their fancy. Fetishizing sex slave or even turning them into some less-human, exotic sex toys (not really asking for furries, mind you, but more like crazed experiments that are progressively less humane/humanoid) seems reasonable.
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>>6774875
>some less-human
Since when rightless slaves are considered actaul humans? (comparing to humans who own them)
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>>6774875
Like I said before, if prosthetic limbs get in for the amputees, there's no reason they have to be human shaped or not remote controllable.
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>>6774896
I may have just became furry a bit...
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>>6771657

which version of RAGS does this use?
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>>6774904
latest iirc
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>>6774903
That is literally not furry.
Furry is anthropomorphic animal people (Usually complete with fur, paws, and a muzzle). That's just a girl with dog-like robolimbs and a collar.
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>>6774182
What does a supporter named Urta have to do with it? Did they donate pooploads of money to keep prosthesis out of the game? Please elaborate.
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>>6774926
Beastiality undertones are pretty vibrant there
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>>6774941
Daz 'cause it's the best iality you can find!
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Anybody know where to get the TiTs save editor? I can't figure out how to use Minerva aside from credits and attribute modding.
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>>6774926
At the risk of starting another shitposting fit, people who say something needs to have a muzzle to be furry are just as much in denial as people who claim traps aren't gay.
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>>6774904
Works with the version used for no haven.
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>>6774941
It's still a human. Just a human with weird augmentation.
It's just a few steps farther than your standard human pet scenario. It's an extreme form of degradation, basically.

>>6774969
Furry generally means a completely fictional non-human person who is part animal. Most of the time, they're bipedal, too.
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>>6774969
Trying to broaden the definition just to "catch" more people is worse, in my opinion.
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>>6774988
There is no broadening, people are trying to arbitrarily exclude what they fap to to avoid the stigma associated with furries
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>>6774993
Someone with augmetic limbs that resemble a dogs is a far cry from a hair-coated thing that was born half-dog half-human and has a foot and half long horsecock.
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>>6774993
Adding humans with robot limbs to the list of things that are furry is pretty clear broadening.
Slippery slope all the way down to fapping to anyone with too much body hair being "furry"
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>>6774999
>>6775003
I believe that all humanoids with animal features are furry, though I agree that this image was poor choice on what to take a stand on. In the interest of the threads quality I concede.
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>>6775007
In context, it's more about dehumanizing and degrading the slave. They're so much less than a person that they don't even get to act like a human.
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>>6774930
Reread the post and then realise what it was actually about (pro tip: it's not FC).
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>>6774980
So a human modified with a furry face and a muzzle isn't furry? You're full of shit.
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>>6774961
What do you want to modify?
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>>6774670
Anonymous hearsay that's months out of date if it's accurate at all? Sounds legit.
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>>6774777
The original point of the facilities was to cut down on end-of-week report length because large numbers of slaves was unmanageable.
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>>6775022
Aw shit. I just got off work and wasn't paying attention. Sorry everyone I'm a faggot.
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>>6775055
No goddamn rowbutts in my game, faggot.
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Any other somewhat obscure RAGS games like that Wife Trainer thingy?

Don't care if short. Do care if it's well delivered (no russian google-translated) and organized.

Browsing tfgamessite trying to find something decent is painful without proper sorting/filters
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>>6774814
>he doesnt take a shower when he wakes up and one before he goes to sleep
wew lad.
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>>6775131
I think their point was that they can't see people whilst smelling of semen
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>>6775131
>two showers
for what purpose
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>>6773454
Is it still completely dead or did Inui atone for his breakdown and resume working on it ?
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>>6775143
to avoid posting in /r9k/
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>>6775131
please die of septic shock next time a hobo coughs close to you
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>>6775134
Well then why are they on /d/?
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>>6775131
That's fucking awful for your skin.
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>>6775173
>Implying anyone who showers before sleeping isn't some ocd sperg
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>>6775223
Yeah but my hair gets more oil on it than satan's anus and I can't go to sleep like that.
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>>6775093
The Lilith Device

Less obscure: Tales of a Drunken Cowboy, Cursed, No Haven
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>>6775234
was reading a thread about Tales of a Drunken Cowboy. will give it a try. Lillith Device too. Already played the other ones
Speaking of which, No Haven update when
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>>6775240
>No Haven update when
I ask that almost every thread. He said ~2 weeks minimum a few days ago, I believe.

BLESSED BE TO BEDLAM.

More recommendations for rags shit: Anything by mdqp, the guy who made tales of a cowboy. He actually finishes his games, or at least fleshes them out.

they're on the tffgamesite.
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>>6775313
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>>6774781
>freeing slaves
>marrying slaves
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>>6775234
There's plenty of RAGS stuff, some of it decent at hypnopics-collective. Majority, as you can guess, revolving around mind control and also using real porn pics/animations, but not all - and quite a few of them, while unfinished and crap are mixed with quite fun, if not great pieces of work. Personally, I've enjoyed - beside stuff mentioned here, like Tales of a Drunken Cowboy or Lilith Device:

>A Spell for All
Quite well done, slightly tricky at times in figuring out where to go and how to do what, but usually discussion provides solutions. Many decent pics, made by the same guy who creates slavesim Slave Maker.

>Evil Inc
Shitty writing but interesting mechanics-wise. Uses many, many animations which on one hand is cool and unique but on the other - apparently RAGS doesn't handle those well, especially on WinXP, making some work and some not - so users would be welcome to help test the thing.

>Overseer
Female protagonist; up till one of the branching paths near the end of the game fully lesbian, base management with mind controlling girls and turning them into one of several types of obedient drones, building facilities etc; long loading times - either really stretches the limits of what RAGS can do or not optimized.

>Etranz Inc
Again, mostly lesbian and softcore, with female protagonist - but great taste in pics; easy to lose and due to progressing game over condition, not really replayable - just get a walkthrough and save before diverging from it to see some other scenes.

>Me against the world
Anime pics, simple base sim with traveling around the city and mind-controlling girls which are basically cameo from different anime adjusted to fit the game's world - still needs lots of work, could use better pics here and there, writing is around average quality for hypnopics which means it's not really anything special but it's satisfying to see your base get populated with all kinds of girls, grow in power etc - it shows promise.
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>>6775029
It would be, but that's not what we're talking about.
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