/gfd/ and /rr/ General

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Let's see if we can't start off on a comfy note.

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Hope everyone is fine, today. C2E2 is happening in the Midwest, so hopefully fun can be finally had by those there.

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>>6722603
source senpai?

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>>6722623
Animal Assort by Toshirou Chiba.

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>>6722547
>No Struggle
But that's the best part!

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Sure is dead here tonight.

>>6722623
I don't like being that person since I don't really haven any pic to contribute, but can I ask for sauce on this?

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>>6722706
Boku wa Sakura Sakura Sakura ga Suki | Sakura, Sakura, Sakura, I love you! by Akai Mato
http://exhentai.org/g/714418/3430f615ba/

>>6722547

>All snuggle edition

I'm the writefag who was celebrating his birthday on the last thread.

5 people out of 10 showed up, 2 told me a crap excuse and 1 gave me an honest excuse

Had a good supper, had fun with friends, but I wanted to go to a pub to finish the night and nobody showed up...

J..Just hold me, /gfd/, I couldn't hold my tears and I still can't :(

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>>6722747
Love u

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>>6722747
Tough shit ese. You sure have it bad.

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>>6722747
I wish I could get into a big cuddle puddle with the rest of you faggots here.

No homo.

>>6722769

Worst part was trying to stay cold-blooded during the way back. I'm lucky that it was cold tonight, at least I could hide my face with a good alibi.

From there it was dark thoughts, despair and silent sobbing. God, I hate feeling like I have to be a machine, I'm human damnit.

>>6722809

I'll be goddamned if this one isn't me every goddamn day of my life
Sorry man :/

>>6722747

If it means anything anon, the best thing I've got to look forward to in my life rn is the fact that I got hired at Burger King recently

All my friends are out there following their dreams at college and partying and shit and I'm over here
Learning how to flip burgers & trying not to kms

>want to see 10 Cloverfield Lane
>too scared to see it alone
>gf is out of town
life is suffering

>>6722938
Wait until she gets back and see it together, and then hold onto her in the theater.

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>>6722939
that's the plan

>>6722716
Was not disappointed, thanks anon. I wish there was more cutesy pegging/futa on male stuff. Feels like the majority of it is rape, and hate fucking.

>>6722962
Whenever you're looking for depictions of male submission, hateful/degrading/male-shaming stuff always outnumbers gentle/cute/loving/genuinely erotic stuff. Pegging and futa-on-male aren't unique in that regard.

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>>6722747
It's fine anon we still love you <3

>>6722547
>>All Snuggle No Struggle Edition
Rofl. Let's see everyone argue about the meaning of this.

>>6722747
Poor thing...

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>>6723062
I know this struggle! Holy shit.

>>6723062
Nothing turns me off more to translated porn than the use of the term "pervert". It must be a cultural thing in Japan.

>>6723304
Yet here you are, a huge pervert. Turns you off because you know the degrading truth to it? And how no girl is whorish enough to indulge you in your gross fantasies?

>>6723312
No, because its over-use distracts from what could have been an otherwise immersing character dialogue. It's like "boypussy", it just catches me off guard.
>And how no girl is whorish enough to indulge you in your gross fantasies?
I mean, I appreciate the roleplay attempt, but I'm in a few non-committal relationships with people who have been more than happy to indulge me.

>>6723304
This isn't really a translation thing (as far as I know), but my newest pet peeve is "succubus (male)". That's called an incubus, guys.

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Animated film:
>Garden of Words

Live Action Film:
>Angel-A

Anime/Manga:
>Witch Craft Works
>Freezing
>Madan no Ou to Vanadis
>Morobito: Guardian of the Spirit
>Monster Musume no Iru Ichijou
>Soredemo Sekai wa Utsukushii (The world is still beautiful)
>Akame ga Kill*
>Infinite Stratos
>Accel World*
>The Pet Girl of Sakurasou*
>Danna ga Nani o Itteiru ka Wakaranai Ken
>Tasogare otome x Amnesia
>Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun
>Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun
>Amagami*
>Oji-san to Marshmallow
>Claymore
>Mizutama Honey Boy
>FLCL

Manga/Light Novel:
>Unbalance x Unbalance
>Otoyomegatari
>Sensei Lock-on
>Arakawa under the bridge
>Natsuyuki Rendezvous
>Otomen
>Kimi wa Peto/Tramps like us
>Hokago play
>Game Over
>Takane no Hana Nara Ochitekoi!!
>Tsugumomo
>Ore x Yome
>Altina the Sword Princess
>Ane no Onaka o Fukuramaseru wa Boku
>Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria
>Waltraute-san no Konkatsu Jijou
>Jomungand
>Arms peddler
>Girls of the Wilds
>Green Boy
>Onihime VS
>The Legend of Maian

Visual Novels
>Junipers Knot*

*/gfd/ is not the main focus

>Hentai list
http://pastebin.com/jVY1dAeb

>Doujin list
http://pastebin.com/5w7qgrM6

>>6723314
>ridiculously common
>catches you off guard
You're a gullible doll, aren't you?

The way I read it I figure it's said in a teasing voice when it's used. Not so much a hateful tone.

>>6723322
Incubus would be male-looking, though.

>>6723329
Cool your jets. Sometimes it's just thrown in there casually, it's flirty and doesn't detract from the interaction. I'm fine with it. The other half of the time the whole thing breaks down into a humiliation-fest. Somebody out there gets off to mental emasculation, but it's not me.
if you're going to use a tripcode at least get some mileage out of it

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List of things that aren't /gfd/
>BDSM
>Rape
>Shota (see above)

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>>6723345
I agree on the first two, but the latter can certainly be a gray area.
[spoiler]You also can't rape the willing, at best you can force yourself on them[/spoiler]

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>>6723345
BDSM and rape play can definitely be /gfd/. As long as it's all done in a gentle and loving manner there isn't anything in them that would automatically disqualify them from being /gfd/.

BDSM is a huge umbrella which gathers together ton of different kinks and personal preferences. Obviously a lot of BDSM can't be considered /gfd/ but there's also a lot of stuff that can fall under /gfd/. It's got a lot to do with how it's done.

Rape itself doesn't belong anywhere. Rape play on the other hand is completely different case and can be very /gfd/ or it can be all about degrading and humiliating the one who's being raped. It all depends on the participants and what they want.

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>>6722547
New poll, finalist from last thread.
A button/patch isn't an option for what should be obvious.

http://strawpoll.me/7059288/

What we want:
>Cheap
>Looks relatively normal
>Passive not active
>Unisex
>Available in most situations

A pin, shirt or sleeve/leg rolled up stands out far too much for various reasons. Sorry, fans of those... I think most would agree.

GFD Story list:
Taiyakisoba:

>Absorption:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/5343203/chapters/12337505

>The Vixen:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/5202542/chapters/11990246

>Under the Falcon's Wing:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/4653132/chapters/10613943

>The Leprechaun's Charms:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/3645492

>The Sentimental Succubus:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/3241379/chapters/7061726

>A Taste for Christmas Cake:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/3145253/chapters/6822353

>Takeover:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/2779652/chapters/6235439

>Wings of Desire:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/2760794

>In Her Argent Embrace:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/2606318/chapters/5806514

>Bringing the Heat:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/2454164/chapters/5439332

>Love-Love Umbrella:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/2219088

SifSub:

>Until you are:
http://pastebin.com/KbnXtAbp

>My manager is my mistress:
http://pastebin.com/TJAvFqgf

>I don't bite:
http://pastebin.com/hWmZEyjb

Smolbrit:

>Minotaur's Labyrinth:
http://pastebin.com/b7dURJkY

>The Bear and the Wolf Cub:
http://pastebin.com/4PQW6E5B

Others:

>Pretty Human: (by Sea Foam):
http://seafoam.pbworks.com/w/page/77839289/Pretty%20Human

>Love You to Bits!: (By SilentOtakuGirl):
http://silentotakugirl.deviantart.com/art/Love-You-to-Bits-529875044

>Escape from the Bermuda triangle:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/5737978

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>>6723360
My idea:
A friendship bracelet. It's made by tiny rubber bands being woven together.
Consisting of the colors Burgundy, Blue and Green. Up for debate.
You can get these off fiverr.com from most people for $2.50 each, which shouldn't be too much of a dent for anyone. (They take bitcoin also.)

If anyone sees it, they would most likely assume it's from a charity or from your friend.

That's all I have. If the community really wants a fucking pin or shirt that says "SIT ON MY FACE" (That they would somehow wear at all times out in public) then I guess some people want to be embarrassed deeply.

>>6723346
>but the latter can certainly be a gray area.
>[spoiler]You also can't rape the willing, at best you can force yourself on them[/spoiler]
Statuary rape applies to girls, why shouldn't it apply to boys too?

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>>6723371
>Statuary rape applies to girls, why shouldn't it apply to boys too?
True dat, which is why it's important to keep fact and fiction separaet.

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>>6723371
>>6723374
>>6723352
>>6723346
>>6723345
The age of consent is 14 in Japan. 14 to 18 is shota range. It would stand to infer that 14 is the AOC in these threads.
Below 13 is pedophile range.
Just clearing that up

>>6723329
>Incubus would be male-looking, though.

So what does a succubus (male) look like? A woman with a dick? That would be a futa succubus. A very feminine-looking boy? Still male, so still an incubus.

>>6722787
That was strangely touching

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>>6722547
Hey /gfd/, sensitive subject incoming.

Anal.
We all know a lot of the guys here want or are okay with getting pegged, but how do some of the dommes here feel about receiving anal themselves, be it rimming, fingering or full insertion?

And what are your opinions, guys?

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>>6723380
That's a common misconception - the age of consent at 13, not 14, is prescribed by the old Japanese Penal Code. However, the Child Welfare Act forbid any act of fornication with a child (defined as under 18), though the prefectures have the ability to define exceptions, such as 16 as long as their is a since romantic relationship (usually meaning parental consent).

Marriage is limited to the age of 20, without parental consent, too.

>>6723385
Guy here. I'm not particularly interested in it. I have OCD, so I'm not too eager to get very involved with that particular part of the body. I'd probably be willing to try insertion if I was asked to, but I definitely will not do rimming or fingering.

I'm not into pegging either. I know you didn't ask about that, but it might be considered relevant to the discussion. Obviously, I'm also not interested in being rimmed or fingered.

>>6723322
>>6723329
>>6723381
They're using the term to mean a sexual demon that takes a submissive role when they write shit like "Succubus (Male)".
Similarly by this usage, an "Incubus (Female)" would be a dominant sex demon that takes a female form.

>>6723363
>If the community really wants a fucking pin or shirt that says "SIT ON MY FACE" (That they would somehow wear at all times out in public) then I guess some people want to be embarrassed deeply.

I have to say, facesitting doesn't appeal to me at all. I'm kind of uncomfortable with the fact that it sometimes seems like all sub guys are just expected to be into it.

>>6723406
So it's just the standard "male = dominant, female = submissive" bullshit. I figured that was it.

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>>6723418
NO ANON YOU CAN'T HAVE YOUR OWN PREFERENCES YOU MUST SUCCUMB TO THE WILL OF THE MAJORITY THE TRYANYY OF THE MAJORITY YOU MUST BECOME ONE OF US ONE OF US ONE OF US

>>6723374
>>6723380
still makes it unrelated

>>6723428
Technically all demons are male, some just take on a female form.

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>>6723439
Cuteboys is considered on-topic here.
A lot of the women here prefer the shota asthetic, and boys that are more cute than manly. This is for many reasons, namely, that it makes them easier to dom.
Traps and cuteboys are the rice of /gfd/, the women which can be strong or normal are the curry.

Post pic or get disregarded, fucking autist.

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>>6723406
>>6723428
>>6723443
That's not true at all.
They just use succubus for every time because they're bad at writing and don't understand the actual difference between a Succubus and an Incubus, which literally is Female and Male respectively.
Stop trying to use something you yourself don't understand to espouse your gender politics, it's retarded.

>>6723450
Demonology has nothing to do with gender politics. Demons are not people, they only mimic us in form. Succubi and incubi appearing feminine and masculine respectively does not mean that is their gender or that they even have a gender to begin with.

>>6723451
And yet you keep going

>>6723452
Sorry for arguing about demons on /d/. I'll get back on-topic and post about pins and shotas.

>>6723454
Just because you are mad that /d/ is not /lit/ or /his/ doesn't mean you should take it out on me.

I'd suggest talking to someone, anon.

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Is there any truth to the idea that a monogamous femdom/malesub relationship is doomed because women inherently want to be dominated and men inherently want to dominate? I've seen it mentioned a few times on different sites, just thought this would be a good place to ask.

>>6723459
Not really.
Though just more than a half of men and women are exclusively/almost always dominant and submissive, a quarter of men and women fit the reverse (which is gfd and domme territory), while the remainder fits in the occasionally/switch void inbetween

>>6723459
I never thought about that. It mostly seems like monogamous relationships with anyone identifying as bdsm terms are doomed because they tend to be promiscuous and too focused on sex.

>>6723459
>men inherently want to dominate

Have you ever read this threads?

>>6723459
>men inherently want to dominate
Only in the kitchen. Nobody messes with my goddamned kitchen

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>>6723459
Saying it's inherrently doomed is a bit harsh, but I'd say in most cases it doesn't work, moreso because most women demand a man that takes the lead and is in every way superior with themselves. Even when looking at those who aren't actively into /gfd/, I think more women than men would have a problem with such a relationship.

/gfd/ women may quite literally be one in a million.

>>6723335
>Cool your jets.
wat

>if you're going to use a tripcode at least get some mileage out of it
wat

>The other half of the time the whole thing breaks down into a humiliation-fest.
Maybe I'm just lucky but I've yet to see it in a context where it isn't so comically retarded that it can't not be non-serious (WOW SENPAI YOU CAME JUST FROM HAVING YOUR COCK SUCKED WHAT A PERVERT).

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This thread is degenerating and destabilizing fast.

Make /gfd/\/rr/ great again, senpai...

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>>6723517
>Make /gfd/\/rr/ great again, senpai...
I want Donna to tenderly dominate Marle.
1783 never 4get.

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>>6723459
Still makes it rape and therefore non-gentle and unrelated by definition

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>>6723523
I'm still glad that people capped my Donna Trump greentext.

Now if only they capped the countrygirl one too!

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>>6723527
Consensual Non-consent is a real fetish, anon.

>>6723459
40% of spousal abuse cases are aimed at men
Your call

>>6723527
Meant for >>6723449

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>>6723534
What's worse is that's a vastly underestimated figure

Additionally, going by the CDC figures, men "Forced to penetrate without consent" and women "Forcibly penetrated without consent" make up literally parity figures, and that's without considering male victims of rape in prisons, usually raped by female prison officers and staff.

>>6723546
>male victims of rape in prisons, usually raped by female prison officers and staff.
wuuut source?

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>>6723539
Excuse me, this is the presidency we're talking about, not the Domocratic nomination.
Not that they're going to win, now that Bernadette Sanders endorsed the violence in the streets of Chicago which left police beaten and people dead in ambulances blocked by "protesters"

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>>6723551
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/svpjri0809.pdf

>Nearly two-thirds of the male jail inmates who had been victimized said the staff perpetrator was female (64%)

>>6723562
How does this even happen?
I always thought that the figures were lower because women weren't physically able to force themselves onto men because of their weaker strength

>>6723575
Physical strength, not strength in socioeconomic status.

>>6723575
If you're an inmate, you can easily be handcuffed to things, threatened with weapons, or blackmailed into going along with it or else you'll be framed for something/get some extra time or punishment for harming the staff in your struggle. Never been to prison, but all that seems pretty viable.

One more reason for me to not break the law, because fuck prison.

>>6723575

It could be as simple as her saying "go along with this, or I'll report that you assaulted me and you'll be stuck in here for 5 more years".

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>>6723575
It's not so much about not being strong enough to defend yourself. It's more about what will happen if you do that.

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>>6723585
>that hand on the adam's apple
fucking triggered
If there is something in this would I cant stand it's people touching their own adam's apple

>>6722809
I feel you man. Like it would be nice to turn of emotions once in a while, and go autopilot or something. The closest thing I find is doing something non stressful, like exercise or reading, so that's what I advise you to do. Hope you feel better soon.

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Why do they not make anime hugging pillows for subs? I want to pretend that a girl is making me the little spoon, but I can only hug. Not be hugged :(

I was told to get better social skills and be less sad and shy, less sensitive, dependant and lonely, to find a girlfriend. I did so.
Now I found this community which told me that there's women who would have loved me the way I was. I'm halfway between now and have a hard time attracting either end.
Me piss

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>>6723586
Touching your own adam's apple isn't that bad desu senpai. How do you even shave if you get triggered by it?

Other people doing it makes me feel vulnerable as fuck though.

>>6723589
I find that cardio let's me completely zone out and not think about anything. Specifically cycling and skiing have that effect on me. I guess running could also work if you are into running.

>>6723599
Self improvement is always good. No one wants a sad, depressed, shy to the point of not being able to even talk to others, socially incompetent bag of sadness that desperately wants a girlfriend.

And /gfd/rr/ isn't inherently about shy, socially incompetent, depressed guys being fully dependant on their dominant girlfriends. And I feel like a lot of people misunderstand it as being just that. So stop worrying about fitting into a certain predetermined mold that would supposedly attract your ideal girl. Instead focus on yourself and do whatever makes you happy while putting yourself out there.

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>>6723554
Holy fucking source please, google gave nothing.

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>>6723624
Stop making excuses and lose the weight for yourself, not for someone else.

sometimes I put my body pillow behind me so it's touching the length of my back, instead of hugging it

>>6723326

Consider adding Rosario + Vampire

>>6723459
Yes it's true, you should kill yourself over it.

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>>6723714
>200 lbs is fat at 6'3"
>6'4" and cutting at 150 lbs
>130 lbs now
S P O O K Y
P
O
O
K
Y

You obviously have no idea how much muscle weights since you're anorexic who has never had any muscle. 200 lbs isn't even that much for someone who is 6'4". You don't even need to be ripped for that to not have any excess fat on you. I'm 6' and my goal weight is around 85 - 90 kg. Currently at 75 kg.

>>6723459

It depends. If the girl is genuinely dominant and the guy is genuinely submissive, it works. But if she's just indulging in a fetish or experimenting, then yes, inevitably she'll cheat.

Would you give your anal virginity to your gf before you've had any vaginal sex with her, /gfd/?

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>>6723431
https://youtu.be/9C4uTEEOJlM?t=15s

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>>6723788
If she asked for it yeah.

>>6723798
You are 4 inches taller than me and weight 35 lbs less than me. I'd call that anorexic when I have hardly any excess fat. You're also clearly underweight according to BMI. Meanwhile 6'3" at 200 is right on the edge between normal and overweight according to BMI which doesn't even work for fit people.

200 lbs with 10 - 15% bf is relatively easy to achieve for someone who's 6'3". And that's much healthier than your 130 at 6'4".

If you aren't trolling it's you who doesn't have any idea about what healthy weight is. And clearly don't have any idea that muscle weights much more compared to a same volume of fat. So 200 lbs fit guy won't be nearly as big as 200 lbs fat guy. You see fit guys that don't have any excess fat that are on a similar weight/height ratio on a daily basis if you ever go outside. You just don't realize it.

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Thanks mods, that was a shitshow.

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Mods=gods

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mmmmm I want nothing more than to be collared.

I picture it as the ultimate submission. You now have a piece of jewelry around your most vulnerable part on your body that leaves your mistresses mark and acts as a love handle.

I would never take it off if I had one.

>>6723418
I like giving head, but I don't know if face sitting would actually work out that well in reality. If it did, I'd probably like it.

>>6723528
>Countrygirl

This is relevant to my interests, please tell me more.

>>6723788
Yes. I only want to be in a mutually loving relationship and love isn't about sex or penetration. If I loved someone who wanted our love making to be that way that would be fine. If I loved someone asexual I'd be happy just being close to them just the same. I almost have no preferences so whatever makes the person I love happy makes me happy, as long as it's done out of love and not emotionally hurtful.

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>>6724176

>>6723363
If a pin has to be a thing, I've had some visual design classes and stuff, so I could probably make some basic design look a little more fancy if yall aren't artistic and stuff...

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What is it that we love the most about musclegirls?

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>>6723611
I had enough social skills to hold a conversation and talk to people, I was and am socially dominant enough, unfortunately. My only issue is when things start to get closer to a relationship, I don't know how to give terminal guidance to the relationship stage and my shyness comes out. Women expect men to lead and I don't know how, which led to potentials vanishing.

Also, sadness comes and goes. Only way I know how to dispose of it is to fap/sleep/waifu pillow. But it works ;)

What makes me happy is serving a girlfriend, having someone who actually contacts me on my phone and is there when things get bad, who trusts me and lets me help her with her problems, who I can buy gifts and cook meals for, and to actually have a source for all the love inside me that normies think is too weird and that my cats don't like.
That's how I am. I support those around me, my goal is to make those around me- such as my belt (Department) at work- stronger together than we are individually. To set everyone else up for better greatness.

See, it doesn't sound like I'd have problems finding a girlfriendu, does it?

>All that neat stuff was deleted

Well good on me for catching it in time.

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>>6724213
It is ONLY a plausible option for the following scenarios:
1: Anime cons
2: Dungeons
3: Students/people with backpacks on 24/7.

That is all. It is not an option for everyone else.
Whereas you could wear a custom friendship bracelet in the office most definitely, basically anywhere.

Could you suggest 4 colors for the /rr/ bracelet? 4 colors because /gfd/ /rr/ has 4 slashes.

>>6723345
>shota
nigger what /ss/ is like the ultimate form of /gfd/

>>6724062
I'd rather have my mistress use my dick as a handle. Maybe even with a leash around it. Or maybe she's a succubus who wraps her tail around it and uses that to pull me along, so her hands are still free to do whatever else. Unfortunately, it's not really feasible for me; my dick tends to point straight up when I'm aroused, so being pulled along by it would be really uncomfortable. It would also require me to be naked all the time, but I see that as a positive thing.

>>6724215
I like that they'd let me be the beautiful naked boy that a musclegirl saves from being sacrificed by the evil cult, and then I can be all seductive and press myself against her and say "Is there some way I can repay you, warrior?"

I'm sure you can imagine where that leads.

Then later, when she's a mighty warrior queen, she keeps me naked at her feet as she sits on her throne, because I'm still her favorite war trophy.

Musclegirls can give us Conan or Gor with the sexes reversed.

>>6724300
>Gor
You better not be talking about Outlaw of Gor

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>>6723554
It's a Revolution, Comrade. Violence will be met with violence. The Republic must be protected! American ideology can not be subverted by frothing fascist hordes!

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>>6724165
Its a good time on multiple levels. The view is nice. Its a fun breathplay outlet. Having your face grinded on makes for great feedback. And if balance or comfort ever become a problem, you can segue into 69 or regular position oral.

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>>6724309
>TFW no Commie girl to fight by my side...

>>6722962
>Feels like the majority of it is rape

I fail to see the problem if the perp isn't male.

>>6723352
Why does it have to be play? Why can't it just be a female who can't restrain herself forcing herself on an unwilling male who can't escape from her?

>>6723562
Got that in non-pdf format?

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long time lurker, only reason I come to /d/. So I'm a khv (kissless hugless virgin) and am pretty normal, yet I know in bed I'll be submissive. In fact I get flustered so fucking easily that I've had trouble playing through vn's or just reading. Even being complimented on a Skype call gets me. I have no idea what to do. How to get gfd/rr gf to snuggle?

pic related, look very similar like guy on left

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>>6724216
>I had enough social skills to hold a conversation and talk to people, I was and am socially dominant enough, unfortunately. My only issue is when things start to get closer to a relationship, I don't know how to give terminal guidance to the relationship stage and my shyness comes out. Women expect men to lead and I don't know how, which led to potentials vanishing.

Domgirl here. This actually sounds perfect to be honest. This is how I enjoy and like guys to be. It's best when they are socially normal enough. Though I have absolute sympathy for those who aren't (me?). Just because I know it's not too much of a burden on them to do normal every day things. This is why I have a wife who has a job, and yet he's literally the shyest in the bedroom. Perfect combo I hit the jackpot.

>To set everyone else up for better greatness.

Aw, so perfect. <3 Too cute. Good boy. You will find someone. How old are you? Your future gf is lucky.

>>6723677
same here, also try draping a saggy pillow across yourself and it will feel like being spooned, it's wonderful

>>6722747
Nigga not a single person was at my birthday. I hate to complain about it but at least you got some friends left. I have NEVER had a real long term friend in my entire life.

>>6724664
>wife
>he
wat

>>6724216
Man, are you me? Im the exact same way. Im dominant towards the "outside world", but when it comes to a relationship its the opposite.

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>>6724646

As long as it is with his consent. It's decency to say rape does not belong anywhere.

But I feel you, feeling as though you are a prey to a girl is something I'd wish would be real.

>>6723788

Yes, but I'm genuinely interested in pegging from a non-BDSM perspective anyways.

>>6724216
I'm similar. Very dominant and succesful in the outside world but have a good reputation amongst friendship circles and the kink community for being very nice. I switch but am significantly more submissive in the bedroom and would much prefer to take on that role in a relationship. I have to put on a dominant face to friends and business partners with my girlfriend there so I attract more submissive types. Though I have had dominant/switch girlfriends they've never quite filled that dynamic that I crave more so except briefly. I love to give to my partners but I like it to be desired and demanded by the dynamic we have and love returned in that "good boy" kind of way (if that makes sense). Sleeping on my exes boobs after a long day in front of the TV and being made love to by pegging were my favourite but rare occurances.

>>6724216

Sad thing is, it's rare these days to meet young people who would commit. What the mainstream tells is simple: if you don't get experience through a lot, you'll miss part of your life.

Some go by this, some don't. I am that kind of guy that would have his dreams fulfilled by settling down with one woman. I'm that kind of guy that do vows and respect them.

All we hope for is to meet that woman that doesn't feel like she's losing her life staying with one man. Respect, faithfulness, family, honor, these are valours that we seek in women. The mainstream does not like this idea, they do not like people being contempt with life, they want us to gamble everything and lose.

How strange, that a place like /d/, shown mostly as a gutter on the Internet, values this. They can say all they want, I am glad that I've found this place.

>>6724742
Content, contempt means the opposite.

>>6724699
They're into gender play with descriptive nouns. It's pretty obvious, no?

>>6724745

Sorry about that typo, Drunk French Canadian trying his best here...

>>6724658
What's your skype? I need it for reasons.

>>6724742
This. I've met a lot of girls who thought it was a waste not to sleep around, which makes me deeply sad. Dedicating your life to one person means you get to have a really strong and special bond that no one else has. You get decades to learn every little secret and grow ever closer. To me this sounds wonderful but apparently many people grow to resent the one who "tied them down". But I guess you risk never finding the one for you so it's tempting to take the easy way of guaranteed sex and attention.

>>6724758
now I'm suspicious you know me.
shieeeet

>>6722831
>/ss/ with Camilla

Sauce please? I need this in my life. Camilla is best big sister.

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>>6724774
i want to know you.

>>6724795
I wonder if you would have been just as eager if he hadn't added that he looked like the picture.

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>>6724798
Just as eager I think.

>>6724785
(サンクリ2015 Autumn) [フニフニラボ, ブロンコ一人旅 (よろず)] MIDNIGHT PRINCESSES (ファイアーエムブレムif)
lrn2google

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>>6724795
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm k
[spoilers] Skype: varistanon [/spoiler]

>>6724808
>spoilers
god damnit, fuck me

>>6724810
>Clumsy too

You seem fun to tease

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>>6724810
Spoiler tags don't work on /d/ anyway
[spoiler]See?[/spoiler]
>>6724813
>teasing
tfw no qt to tie me up and tease me

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>>6724176
>>6724193
This was the picture that started it, but I don't have the (5/6 post) text at hand.

>>6724813
I'm 18, just about every female who has ever talked to me was fucking teasing me.

>says something and starts laughing no matter what my response was, and says I'm funny

ma only when I was younger tho

>>6723626
You can find it on gelboouru, using the assertive tag

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>>6724664
Aw. Thank you
I'm 18. I know, 'way too immature' and shit. I look like I'm 24 and in most ways I act like I'm that age.

This community has been very supporting and it's good to know that there is a lock for every key.

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>>6723575
Poster you were responding to, and, as with women, it isn't the case that the physically stronger person has control but that people are manipulated, threatened and forced into things by pressing their vulnerabilities, or otherwise put under duress. Surprise, men aren't the stoics able to put up with everything like you thought they were.

We live in a society that has created the dispensable male which doesn't matter, who is ridiculed, where women don't believe they are doing wrong and even if they do, they know that they are held as a protected 'victim' class and receive punishment at a tenth a man would.

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>>6724817
Okay, found AND put it in a pastebin

http://pastebin.com/X9XhiMJk

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>>6724824
Could be worse. I'm 21 and look 30, but without the gfd-attractive personality traits.

Where's the affection for us hidden basketcase loner losers stuck on the very border of everyone's peripheral perception?

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>>6724838
I don't ask for affection, I ask for truth. The affection is just a bonus.

If you don't have any gfd traits, then is it just sexual?

>>6724824
>20, very thin and pretty short with smooth skin
>always get carded buying rolling papers
>strangers feel comfortable calling me "buddy"
It's like being an adult but without all of the benefits my twelve year old self thought would come from growing up.

>>6724872
Traits in the stereotypical sense, dummy. Not particularly reactive, not particularly shy, don't fit the standard physical aesthetic, just a loner who wants to be the househusband some day.

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>>6724824
>>6724875
>25
>could still pass for a HS student
>still get carded everywhere I go
>all of my collegues thought I was under 20 when I started last year
I'm not complaining though. I for one love looking younger than I actually am. Getting carded isn't really a problem.

>>6723326
pardon the well-abused meme but

who is this semen demon

>>6723562
Oh shit I'm goin to jail

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>>6724932
And then there was a RAPIST IN THE THREAD

HOW COULD YOU DO THAT TO HIM

>>6724909

23 and in the same boat, people often mistake me for a high schooler, [spoiler]I did get rejected by a girl because of it ;_;[/spoiler]

>>6725017
can we average out how old we look

someone fucking compared me to louis ck today

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>>6724920
Barbara from Hai to Gensou no Grimgar.
>Is she /gfd/?
Maybe

>Is she worth watching the show for?
We're 9 episodes into the show and she only showed up twice, so no.

>Is the show worth watching in general
If you enjoy slow paced anime where the mood matters more than the events, sure.

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>>6724165
Facesitting works just fine as long as the girl is aware of her weight, how much pressure she's putting on your face/head, and how well you are able to breathe. As long as you're not a complete useless landwhale with jelly for thighs, it's actually pretty easy to sorta 'hover' a couple of cm above a guy's face so he's got a faceful of pussy but you're not crushing or smothering him.

Or you could of course just go ahead and smother him if he's into that. C:

>>6724300
>gender reversed Gor
TAKE MY FUCKING MONEY ANON
I want gratuitous and beautiful illustrations of men in pleasure/dance silks, too.

Hell I just wish I could find more art of beautiful male slaves in fancy lewd costumes in general. I'm so sick of faceless self-insert highschool boys in my porn.

>>6725048
I thought the point of Facesitting was to be smothered?

I mean, thats what I want out of facesitting

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>browse fetlife for fun
>stumble upon a girl with anime avatar
>check her out
>she lives near me
>her description is all about gently domming someone without humiliation or degradation, straight outta /gfd/ 101
>she's 4 years older than me
I should send her a message right? Also what are the chances she's fat?

>>6725052
>what are the chances she's fat
I don't know but are you all that great?

>>6725052
Medium to high. Probably chubby or anorexic at best. S'alright though, just hang around her more and try to subtly encourage a healthier body through exercise and healthy eating. Very few overweight people are so resilient to a healthy lifestyle that they'll actually fight for keeping their own body issues.

>>6725050
I just like the hole being pinned down and sort of forced to do it thing, not necessarily smothering.

>>6725052
>odds
90%

>>6725057
I enjoy the idea of being put on my knees while my dom stands/leans with her crotch to my mouth, hands on my head, but I would consider it different from facesitting I guess?

I'm probably just terrible with definitions and explaining stuff.

>>6725057
>I just like the hole being pinned down and sort of forced to do it thing, not necessarily smothering.

>I just like the hole being pinned

>I just like the hole

Don't we all, anon?

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>You will never live in a peaceful and blooming matriarchy
why live?

>>6725043
ep 10 soon fellow watcher

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So I'm going to stop listening to you and start talking now.
Just kidding.

But really. I got a new plug in the mail about 2 to 3 weeks ago, and I realized that I hadn't used it yet because privacy. I tried today.
This thing is relatively huge, like 3 inches in diameter at widest. It's 4 inches long.
It wouldn't go in any further than 2/3, I think just up to max diameter.

This was using Olive Oil for lube.
Let me guess- there's better lube out there? I'm low on funds, so would the better lube be worth it?

Thanks

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>>6725083
You might someday. Live because you're better than others in your own small way- and that can be as simple as just knowing what you want in life. That already makes you better than some.

Madoka really did make me mad, though.
Did nobody else care that the plot premise was ripped off from the 200(6?) series Shakugan No Shana?
And, when on episode 5 of Madoka, I actually GUESSED THE ENDING. I felt so insulted and stopped watching.

I don't get why that show has the fanbase that it does.

My last girlfriend did call herself Madoka and love cosplays, anyway.

Tldr: autism and good morning /gfd/

>>6725096
glad I chose not to watch it. When I see an anime get a big fanbase I kind of regret choosing not to watch it. I didn't like shana either.

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>tfw talking with girl
>she drops the skype call to answer phone
>then goes and calls someone else to play a steam game with

>I get mad over being ignored like this and blow up at her
>all my insecurities and small fears that I'd been trying to ignore and get over come up
>pretty much 'yelling' at her over steam and her not responding for the most part just making me more pissed

>go lie in my bed
>hugging daki
>cry for an hour

>later she says she's going to "Be offline for a while" because she doesn't feel like being online
>pretty obvious this is my fault

So how badly did I fuck things up?
Also, is there any good way to get over constant paranoia/inability to fully trust people?

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>>6725103
Since I blogposted I'll dump some pictures too

since we're talking about anime, which of the current series would you recommend?
Since we're close to the new season I started watching some stuff that I hadn't watched from the current one.
I started with haruchika, the protagonist is this tomboy pretty girl that tries to deny her true self, along with a pretty boy childhood friend, and they both like their male teacher, but are clearly perfect for each other. add some mystery solving, some highschool band activities and sad/happy endings/feels and its got me hooked.
I also like dagashikashi that was posted here >>6725103
but wish they weren't middle schoolers

those too are what I can think of that I watched and are slightly /gfd/ related, any more recommendations?

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>>6725103
What is it with this sudden scare of "blogposting", which are in fact just relationship advices and harmless rants?
Isn't this supposed to be a /gfd/ and /rr/ discussion thread? Surely there is more to these threads than just image dumps?
Aren't we also too supposed to actually discuss this fetish and give advices?

>>6722962
>futa
thanks for warning me.

I just want to say that i'm so happy to have found this fetish/site

Like I DEFINITELY fantasized about this kind of thing on my own, when I was younger, but I could never find any examples of female dominant porn that wasn't just turbo-degrading or calling the guy a girl..So I just kind of left it for years and just sort of thing didn't exist - or at least that girls weren't into it. Everytime actual women (I hope you are actual grills) post on here it makes me smile!

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>>6725103
>tfw she told me that she doesn't and will never want to be more than friends
>tfw she said that I'm too attention needy for her
>tfw she said she'd never be able handle me in a relationship

>tfw she told me that "It would be better if I (referring to herself) just left"
>Told her to have a good life and that she was the first person I seriously felt love for
>Removed her from all the accounts I had her added on
>Tearing up as I did this
>Now sitting here alone with everything looking a lot worse than it did yesterday

I wonder what emotions she felt when she came to that decision? Disappointment? Sadness? Disgust? Or was she just over my shit?

I just want a qt to cuddle with who loves me. Why do things have to go so wrong?

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>>6725114
I basically only watch stuff that's 2 to 5 years old by now. I'm working through classics like Death Note, Angel Beats and Toradora and shit.
The latter two I definitely recommend.

I like anime for plotline basically only, lazy narratives make me very angry.

>>6725103
Go to /adv/. Don't ask for /adv/ here unless it's /gfd/ related strictly.
Do not:
Ask for advice here.
Blogpost.

Do:
Post on /adv/.
Post us a link.
Ask for our help.

You need help if you're that insecure. You didn't communicate with her in regards to your insecurities and this is what happens.
It also sounds like you're a major thirster which is another problem.

I'd send a sincere apology right now explaining what happened and your mistakes and then let it go.

>Get over paranoia
Yeah. Grow up past the mental age of a 12 year old.
Actively try to NOT be a 12 year old.

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>>6725139
Ok you're just a low-level beta orbiter that fulfills a lot of /r9k/ stereotypes. Honestly. If you're better than this, don't do it. Pic definitely related

>>6725143
I only watch current stuff or I'd have a lot of shit to watch.
>Angel Beats and Toradora
watched first eps when they were current but both dropped. I kinda regret it.

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>>6725148
Both are stellar from my opinion, you should definitely go back and finish them.

The first ep is always awful and boring, from my experience. Even my favorite anime have a first episode I can't stand.
It's best to watch two episodes m8y.

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>>6725054
>what are the chances she's fat
Yeah this. If your only criteria for a partner is that she likes your fetishes and isn't fat, I can't imagine you're much of a catch yourself.

>>6725139
>Or was she just over my shit?
Probably this. Most girls have experienced this kind of uncomfortable one-sided obsession from a guy multiple times by the time we exit our teens.

>Why do things have to go so wrong?
Because you have self-esteem issues which you're expecting a manic pixie dream girl to magically solve for you. The help you need will come from a therapist, not from a pair of tits and some nice hugs. It's not fair to expect a woman to do the same amount of labour for you that a therapist is paid to do.

>>6725159
yes, I follow 3 ep rule, I didn't mean strictly 1st ep

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>>6725161
Ah, ok. Well you can see why I thought you meant 1st episode only.
Angel Beats is shorter and shouldn't take you more than 2 1/2 hours to finish, will be with you for life, friend.

>>6725162
eh, I'd rather watch toradora out of the two, angel beats had this third rate anime kind of feel, only for the pandering etc.

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>>6725143
>Do not:
>Ask for advice here.
>Blogpost.

See >>6725119
If you're going to tell people not to blog about their relationships in a thread fetishizing a relationship dynamic, maybe do so before they think to post, like put it first thing in the OP, rather than giving bitchy responses whenever someone DOES post such things.

Also
>actually recommending /adv/
Have you ever been there or do you just know that it's a board that gives advice? Why would you ever want someone to rely on the advice of 4chan armchair psychologists? Retard

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>>6725169
I agree with this, relationship discussion has historically been a big part of this thread and if that's changing then it should be specified in the OP. Sure, nobody wants to read five walls of text about somebody's Saturday night date unless it's seriously exciting stuff, but 'blogposting' in moderation is really nothing new here.

And yeah /adv/ is total shit and I don't think we should be sending anyone there.

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>>6725160
> Most girls have experienced this kind of uncomfortable one-sided obsession from a guy multiple times by the time we exit our teens.

>"Ewww not another one of these creeps again! Why can't these disgusting non-chads just die already and stop bothering me, LOL"

How you sounds right now, literally saying that women are annoyed people find them desirable.

Ironic that you're attack the poor guy for daring to want to tell someone about his feelings instead of being a man and keeping the bottle up inside. Expected better from this general honestly.

>>6725160

>Yeah this. If your only criteria for a partner is that she likes your fetishes and isn't fat, I can't imagine you're much of a catch yourself

Not him, but I think it has more to do with wanting a partner you find attractive.

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>>6725180
I have better things to do with my afternoon than argue with sad, bitter little misogynists like you. Like cleaning my toenails, or carefully removing every fibre from my carpet with tweezers.

>>6725184
The problem with this 'is she fat' fear is that it's not as simple as 'will I find this person physically attractive'. You don't see guys going 'hey I wanna message this girl but what if she has acne? or what if she has greasy hair? or what if she smells bad?'
You literally only see it about weight and that's why it's a big red flag. If you saw a girl ITT saying 'hmm I saw this guy on this map who seems cute but do you think he might have a small dick', you'd go, whoa bitch, you shallow as hell. And that is exactly how women see guys who communicate that 'fatphobia'. If it was genuinely about general physical attraction and not about the fear of losing social status by sticking it in an 'untouchable', it wouldn't be the same thing that gets brought up every time, and it wouldn't be the first thing guys turn to when they want to insult a woman (like with that tripfag a few threads ago).

>>6724824

18 and I've been told I look like I'm 30 before if it means anything

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>>6725186
>compares '''fatphobia''' as being the same as a woman not wanting a guy because he has a small dick

One of these is genetic 100% of the time
The other one is not commonly genetic and is also a red flag for that person having behavioral issues.
Fucking misandrists I swear, I feel bad for anyone who has to put up with you in real life.

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>>6725194
>calling out double standards is misandry
audible mirth. And that's all the reply you're getting out of me.

>>6725201
>Double standards
>Making an apples and oranges comparison
Please, let me know what lifestyle changes to alter the proportions of my penis. Obviously my attitude to my bodily and mental health has a definite effect.

Also, someone get the chalk to scratch another mark onto the tally of times Spidermeme got mad at a boy because she couldn't understand the depth implied behind a simple phrase, because it wasn't spelled out for her.
We're even about the fill the wall

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>>6725054
>>6725160
>>6725186
It's just that anime avatar and no pictures of her just makes me wonder. Stereotypes do usually have a bit of truth behind them. Or it could also be that she doesn't want pictures of herself on fetlife which is totally understandable. Besides it was supposed to be lighthearted joke. I should know better than to crack jokes at girls and their weights. They never take to take them that well, especially if they're a bit chubby themselves.

I'm still gonna send her a message. I mean that's the only way to find out more about her.

Even with all that said yes I'll admit that looks is an important part in a partner for me. Call me vain, shallow and superficial all you want but it won't change anything. However it's not the only thing that's important and personality matters at least just as much if not even more.

Fat people are pretty much the only group of people I actually look down upon, both men and women. Being fat is everyone's personal decision and has nothing to do with genetics. I don't care what my friends or family think of potential partners. I just couldn't date a fattie because I just can't respect people that let themselves get fat. I've worked hard for the body I have and while I don't expect anyone to join me in the gym I expect them to take care of themselves. Also being fat poses severe health risks in the long run. I'm looking for a long term relationship, not a hookup. So if the other person is fat it makes you question how long are they going to even live. And to top it off almost all of my hobbies involve physical activity of some sort so it would suck if they couldn't participate at all. I'm not expecting them to be with me 24/7 but being able to sometimes do stuff together, something that isn't netflix and fast food, is still important.

>>6725139

Oh god please tell me you are under 18 or kill yourself you massive narcissist

she's right, about what she said, you know. and no, not because you are 'too sensitive' (read: too kind, too 'different' too...anything positive) - but because you only interpret the world relative to yourself.

sorry, i'm being too harsh here, and it's probably unhelpful..but you do really need to know that the reason why you can't find the qt to cuddle with his because they all run for the hills when they realize they're never going to get anything from you. that they're just a prop to you, there to help you and play a role in your internal movie script

>>6725224

. Fat people are pretty much the only group of people I actually look down upon, both men and women. Being fat is everyone's personal decision and has nothing to do with genetics.

literally false! I wish people would take the time to look at the research rather than focusing on enjoying what is essentially the last acceptable outlet for prejudice. this isn't to say you are wrong to desire a non-fat partner, just that being fat really isn't a choice for most people, it's genetics.

> yes yes if you literally eat nothing anyone can get thin - try doing that as an experiment and see how you handle it. within reasonable limits of eating/exercise behavior, you can't control your weight

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>>6725229
>You can't control your weight
>within reasonable limits of eating/exercise behaviour
"WHY DO I NOT LOSE WEIGHT BY STARVING MY METABOLIC RATE TO NOTHING WHILE LIVING A SEDENTARY POTATONEET LIFESTYLE"

MUST
BE
MY
GENETICS

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>>6725224
It's definitely worth sending her a message, you never know how things might work out unless you try. For all you know she might be planet-sized and still such a perfect dom for you that you fall in love with her. Stranger things have happened, my sweetheart is Indian and until three years ago I was a card-carrying racist who pretty much hated Indian and Pakistani men more than any other living creature on the planet.

>>6725229
>essentially the last acceptable outlet for prejudice
That right there is my problem with it. Though I'm going to disagree with you on the genetics part- it has a lot more to do with upbringing and emotional conditioning. People who grow up in families with poor nutritional habits with attitudes and eat junk food right up until they leave home are going to have a really hard time getting fit because they have to do an awful lot of brain rewiring. That's not to say that it's impossible, my mother's a culinary war criminal and I still manage to be in decent shape, but some people definitely have it harder than others and we could do with being a bit more sympathetic.

>>6725230

nigga stop. do you have any evidence here or are you just going to make assumptions about the behavior of fat people? plenty of people exercise daily and eat less than their calorific limit, and loose only minimal amounts. jesus christ. if loosing weight was just a matter of trading potato crisps in for not being reviled by society, they'd be almost no fat people.

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>>6725234
>>we could do with being a bit more sympathetic.

>says the person with a record of being incredibly harsh and abusive to people in these threads when they post about their problems
Oh I am fucking laffin, the irony here is immense. Maybe practice what you preach first.

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>>6725240
Call me when incels are the subject of constant media ridicule, workplace bullying and abuse in relationships, sweetie. I'll be right here.

I'm here for the real problems men have, but 'wahh women don't take me seriously on the internet because I don't treat them like human beings' is not one of them.

>>6725229
>being fat really isn't a choice for most people, it's genetics.
It's actually your own fault. Biology doesn't magically disobey the laws of physics. If you eat more calories than you burn, you put on weight, no matter who you are.

>>6725239
>plenty of people exercise daily and eat less than their calorific limit, and loose only minimal amounts.
Then they give up and stop trying, even though they were beginning to make progress. It takes time to gain/lose weight, you know.

>>6725239
>if loosing weight was just a matter of trading potato crisps in for not being reviled by society, they'd be almost no fat people.
lmao but that's exactly what it is. It's trading in potato crisps and soft drinks, and getting off your ass for at least half an hour a day. It's that easy, but people still can't fucking do it because they don't care enough to stop their shitty habits.

>>6725245

that simply isn't true senpai -- I mean it's true technically, but it gives the wrong impression - people shift far more of that intake into fat if they are insulin resistant, for example. why do you think people, almost universally, gain weight as they age?

again please for god's sake, if you are going to adopt a belief that is judgmental towards a particular group, at least bother to research it a little!

like for instance i am more scared of nig nogs than whites, but I didn't before i read about various evidence for this etc etc

>>6725239
>Do you have any evidence
Burden of proof lays with you the originator, so I'm going to rev up my Ruski Rooster, and tell you go get proofs or fuck off to /fit/

Also
>trading potato crisps
And there we have the surrounding attitude. It's not the entire lifestyle that's unhealthy, it's just the little bits. It's just the here and there. Not everything, that couldn't be true, so it's not my fault

>>6725252
>Please research it
After producing no proofs whatsoever, he says it's your responsibility to prove his point, parading his superiority and his authority as a valid argument

Sounding suspiciously Ukrainian.

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>>6725229
Being fat is literally a personal choice for everyone. The few people that actually have genetic medical reasons for why they easily get fat have to take that into account. And over 99% of fat people don't even fall in that category.

Besides weight control is really fucking simple. If you want to lose weight you eat ingest less energy than you use. Guaranteed to lose weight 100% of the time. If you want to eat more you gotta spend more energy. This isn't magic.

The only group of fat people I don't look down on are kids. They might not have the possibility to live healthy and often don't even have enough knowledge about the subject and on how dangerous it is for them. However once you're on your mid to late twenties that isn't the case anymore.

>>6725239
>losing weight
>complaining it's not fast enough
The fucking nerves on some people. It's like they expect to get bodybuilder level physique overnight.

Besides counting calories is really fucking hard for some people for some reason. And weight loss shouldn't even aim at dropping it as fast as possible. Doing it slower but with a diet that you can keep up forever is how you do it. The dieting industry doesn't even want people to succeed in losing weight and keeping the weight off so anyone who follows fad diets found on magazines is bound to keep failing.

Also one of the biggest mistakes of anyone losing weight, especially women, is that they don't lift weights. Lifting weights is much more useful that doing just cardio. Women are for some reason afraid they'll turn into bodybuilders overnight as soon as they even look at a barbell and avoid weights at all cost. When those weights are the best way to lose weight. And if women actually try lifting they'll do it on the machines instead of free weights.

>>6725252
>that's not true
>exactly that's exactly true but
Just stop already. If you've got some sort of medical reason why you get fat easier you gotta take that into account.

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>>6725172
>>6725169
If you read what I said, I suggested that he only ask for help from this thread directly if it's a /gfd/ related issue. I assume you must be him samefagging as you're blindly defending him when I wasn't all that mean or rude in the first place.
For example:
"My dom wants to peg me. I don't want it. What do?"

Not what he put which has nothing, or next to nothing specified, to do with /rr/.

It used to be my homeboard. If you're polite, sincere and say that you know you sound like __ then most are pretty alright. But yes, it is a toxic community, what isn't?

Don't call me a retard, poo poo head :'(
https://youtu.be/HoTZZYm2HZI?t=70
https://youtu.be/HoTZZYm2HZI?t=45

>>6725172
It can be kept /gfd/ or /rr/ related, is what I'm saying. If people disagree, they have a philosophical difference from me, which is fine. Which is why I wasn't that mean.

>>6725252
>that simply isn't true senpai -- I mean it's true technically
:|

>, but it gives the wrong impression
The reverse is true. Telling people that they're responsible for their own health robs them of the power to play the victim and motivates them to make a change in their unhealthy lifestyles.

>>6725252
>why do you think people, almost universally, gain weight as they age?
They don't though, save for slight metabolic slowdown in early adulthood (which is not a big deal at all). In fact, it's much rarer to see obese people over the age of ~70 because all the fatties have usually died by then.

>>6725251

considering that most people who are fat fucking hate it, and spend huge amounts of time hating themselves for it..you'd imagine that they'd at least have some incentive towards keeping going.

> they're lazy lawl they're just stoopid

but then we both know plenty of fatties with decent jobs, decent academic records..people who seem pretty put together and hard-working, and they're still fat.

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>>6725261
I think it is a /gfd/ related issue, because it's related to guys thinking /gfd/ is about finding a surrogate mommy to tolerate any possible bullshit from them, which is a really big problem in this fetish. That guy won't be able to find a strong relationship with his current issues whether she's into /gfd/ or not. Responding to people like that and giving them advice sets a good example for other people who have the same difficult attitude but aren't vocal about it.

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>>6725258
Thanks for reminding me to do my crunches, squats and pushups. Gotta work up my basic strength so I don't look like a complete loser at the gym

Also
>Medical reason
Incredibly overblown by just about everyone, and in the general case of the average person, medical problems affecting weight hit a negligible number of people, and this is besides the point that medical issues, even severe hypothyroidism or as is the case with a close friend, hyperthyroidism, cannot affect weight to the degree that it is out of your control.

You are the one in control of the energy input and the work output. The gap is the delta Q, the stored or lost energy. It's basic thermodynamics

>>6725264
Who SEEM.

>>6725264
>considering that most people who are fat fucking hate it, and spend huge amounts of time hating themselves for it..you'd imagine that they'd at least have some incentive towards keeping going.
They do. Fats, salts, sugars, and glutamates taste great and are satisfying to eat. Alcoholics and chain smokers don't feel great about their shitty habits either.
>> they're lazy lawl they're just stoopid
I went out of my way to specifically not call them stupid. I said that they don't care. Don't misrepresent me you ass.
>but then we both know plenty of fatties with decent jobs, decent academic records..people who seem pretty put together and hard-working, and they're still fat.
I . . honestly don't. Then again, I don't live in America. I'm sure some exist, fwiw.

>>6725258
>Women are for some reason afraid they'll turn into bodybuilders overnight as soon as they even look at a barbell
As someone that barely put on any muscle at all after half a year at the gym (protip, I didn't eat enough food), that attitude pisses me off to no end.

>>6725186
>sad bitter little misogynists
Go back to Tumblr.

>>6725180
Pretty much this. And of course, anyone who dares to show empathy towards the disposable gender is a misogynist.

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>>6725269
Don't worry about not being able lift much when you first go to the gym. No one lifted a lot when they started out.

Pick either starting strength or stronglifts 5x5 and start going to the gym. Remember to eat and sleep enough so your body gets to recover. All you need is about an hour 3 times a week.

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>>6725269
Exersize burns about 10 times the energy or more that it ideally should from waste. Climbing 1 flight of stairs evidently burns about 9kCals, even though the pure potential energy increase would suggest depending on someone's weight only 0.8 kcal of energy.

>>6725270
They do exist.
[spoiler] I'm one of them. I do more physical activity in a day than you do in a week, most likely. [/spoiler]
That is correct though. They (er- we) are lazy and unmotivated to do something about it.

>>6725266
That's a good point. I'm used to being rude to the /r9k/ invasion force.

>>6725094

Since it's for the ass, you need something that does not evaporate. In short, don't go look for water-based lube. If you go at some local sex shop, I'm sure you can find a silicon-based lube for no more than 20 bucks.

Also, you don't want your ass to be too sore, so yeah, a better lube is worth it. As I said, silicon-based lube will be better for your ass and don't be afraid to lube a lot, there's no such thing as not enough lube.

>>6725290
>Climbing 1 flight of stairs evidently burns about 9kCals, even though the pure potential energy increase would suggest depending on someone's weight only 0.8 kcal of energy.
Well yes. I never said that biological machines were mechanically efficient.

>>6725243
it just means that you're a stupid narcissist that can't relate to problems you don't have
previous poster is right, you need to practice what you preach

>>6723532
>Consensual Non-consent

I thought this was called rape-play?

>>6725229

>literally false! I wish people would take the time to look at the research rather than focusing on enjoying what is essentially the last acceptable outlet for prejudice. this isn't to say you are wrong to desire a non-fat partner, just that being fat really isn't a choice for most people, it's genetics.
It's not genetics but I wouldn't exactly categorize it as a choice either. And I'm telling you that as someone who's obese. I know exactly how I got here. A very real issue is the simple fact that parents don't teach their kids how to feed themselves while society- at least in the US- gives you a ton of very convenient, very calorie dense food options. Dietary habits are not easy to change.
Psychology is a very real angle of obesity that gets severely downplayed. Being fat is something you choose to do, but categorizing it as a choice implies it's easy to just stop. Were that the case you wouldn't see nearly as many fat people.


>>6725224
>I've worked hard for the body I have and while I don't expect anyone to join me in the gym I expect them to take care of themselves.


I don't even know who you are and I would kill to just have someone like you who's bugging me to go to the gym on a semi-daily basis. And I think that's the root of the problem. You get fat, the only people who really properly tolerate your existence are people who are also fat and use it as an emotional sponge. At which point you're trying to improve yourself in a vacuum, which is already difficult without a bunch of people who will treat you like you're trying to get off the reservation by taking control of your life.

>>6725258

> Being fat is literally a personal choice for everyone. The few people that actually have genetic medical reasons for why they easily get fat have to take that into account. And over 99% of fat people don't even fall in that category.

this is why I ask you people to provide evidence...again, where do you get these claims about what '99 percent of fat people do' from?

again, it's all about you here..''the only group of fat people I don't look down on are kids'' - oh well isn't that swell. jesus christ look around you, where do you think you are? you're already a joke to most people.

really, nigga, you just have a clue what you are talking about. have you ever lost weight too any significant degree yourself? let me guess, you were sort of skinny fat then hit the weights and watched what you eat a bit and now you think your n.1 experiment tells you all you need to know about weight gain/lose.

weight gain is primarily the result of having too high levels of insulin -- which is why sugary foods are often known anecdotal as more 'fattening' than more complex carbs. the insulin then drives whatever calories you intake into body fat, and makes getting rid of it really, really hard. and yes, insulin levels can be elevated by food intake, exercise, but a lot of it is just due to innate factors -- it's why diabetes isn't at a 1;1 correlation with diet/exercise habits. there are absolutely loads of reasons people can develop it, without it being in their control. this is why, say, something that upregulates leptin such as a ketogenic diet, creates fat loss while eating the maintaining the same level of calories

(link was here but can't post, just google itsthewoo muscle/steroids)

this is a good blog which draws an analogy between extra-normal weight gain via muscle (which nobody thinks isn't primarily an endocrine issue i.e. they are dosing steroids up the ass) and weight gain via fat which everyone thinks is due to 'willpower'

Medical problems is not just genetics. Its stuff like hypothyroidism too for example. Sure you can be hypo and fit but it requires a lot more work. And what's with people thinking that if its not physical problem then you can power through it. Deny it all you like but psychology matters too. You're just being judgmental thinking they're pathetic when you can just overcome those easily. And no, tough love is not a solution to everything. So learn some empathy too.

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>>6725315
I've heard Consensual Non-con more often, and general CN-C is more "I give you consent to rape me and take me as you wish, even if I struggle and resist", with the obvious get out of the safeword
Rape-play sounds like it's a much more roleplay oriented type of fun

>>6725333

here are some posts that support the insulin hypothesis of obesity. i'll await your comments on them -- as I suppose there is an argument to be had here, but i've always been surprised as to ignorance of people who are so ready to pronounce 'hard truths' about obesity (that just so happens to indicate how much better they are than others, etc etc)

• Mechanisms of Weight Regain following Weight Loss (4/16/2013)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3901982/

• Leptin reverses declines in satiation in weight-reduced obese humans (1/11/2012)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3260066/

• Long-term persistence of adaptive thermogenesis in subjects who have maintained a reduced body weight (7/6/2008)
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/88/4/906.long

• Low-dose leptin reverses skeletal muscle, autonomic, and neuroendocrine adaptations to maintenance of reduced weight. (12/1/2005)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1297250/

• Leptin reverses weight loss–induced changes in regional neural activity responses to visual food stimuli (7/1/2008)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2430499/

• Low dose leptin administration reverses effects of sustained weight-reduction on energy expenditure and circulating concentrations of thyroid hormones. (5/8/2002)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11994393

• Effects of reduced weight maintenance and leptin repletion on functional connectivity of the hypothalamus in obese humans. (3/21/2013)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3605420/
• Revisiting leptin’s role in obesity and weight loss (7/1/2008)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2430504/

>>6725333
>Why I ask you people to provide evidence...again
Besides the massively retarded misrepresentation, you still haven't completed your obligation, as the original claimant, to fulfilll YOUR BURDEN OF PROOF, to prove your own point

We are not going to do YOUR work for you, especially in an argument where in you spout the same thing over and over then blame us because you didn't want to post proofs, you fucking hohol fatty, never mind the hyperbole, fallacies and straight out lies you're pushing as true.

>>6725324

> It's not genetics but I wouldn't exactly categorize it as a choice either. And I'm telling you that as someone who's obese. I know exactly how I got here. A very real issue is the simple fact that parents don't teach their kids how to feed themselves while society- at least in the US- gives you a ton of very convenient, very calorie dense food options. Dietary habits are not easy to change.

What you've described is the insulin hypothesis! Early life hyperinsulima creates a huge permanent tendency to gain weight, and makes it virtually impossible to permanently lose. let me ask you, have you tried losing weight? how'd it go? and when you relapsed, did all the pounds come back super fast?

i'd suggest that, you should, if you haven't at least, try a ketogenic diet + leptin supplementation. i'd be very surprised if you weren't blown away by how easy it was to lose everything.

>>6725336
>A lot more work
Hypothyroidism does NOT interfere with metabolic rates to this sort of a degree in the vast majority of affected, and those that do, are usually hospitalised because of it and undergo treatment the problems which caused it. They are NOT the majority of people, nor the vast majority of obese and overweight.

>>6725362
It was just an example anon calm down.

>>6725355

What did I misrepresent? You made the original, bold claim about millions of people -- here it is:

> Being fat is everyone's personal decision and has nothing to do with genetics.

Isn't that a assertion? Or does anything you believe the null- hypothesis? Anyhow you obviously provided no evidence for this (though found the time for a lot of personally flattering anecdotes.) Then, i said you were wrong, and you tried then to stick me with the burden of proof. it's fine to ask for proof, good, even, but you've got things mixed up if you think I was the 'original claimant' and somehow I'm not entitled to make the same request of you.


Now, because i actually have proof -- i've provided it in the post above, but at this point i'm sure people are taking note that we're still waiting to see yours....

> you fucking hohol fatty

the mask is slipping --- this is about 'hard truths' not belittling people to big yourself up, remember?

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>>6725359
>Did you try
>When you relapsed
>Did all the pounds come back superfast
Fad
diets
/
10

This had been said over and over and over and over, and you don't even post to post pictures with your bullshit.

>>6725364
>It's just an example!
Your example is bullshit, just like the entirety of your "argument", inane attempts to stitch together a dozen things you don't understand while screaming a maturity play on their standing, and throw out a hundred things which are LITERALLY

L O I T E R A L L Y

False, incorrect, untruths, lies, fake facts that you are trying to pass as honest and legitimate when they are nothing of the sort, then fling out obsequious responses to realisations that they are, and vague notions of "Virtually impossible" and other ambiguous obscurations of the fact that you really don't know what the fuck you're talking about

You've even turned this thread into your own personal thesis on insulin, obesity and the "ignorance" of fatshaming

SO
FUCK
OFF

>>6725368
>Proof
Thermodynamics 101

>>6725371
im not the insulin guy anon. just some guy trying to present a different prespective in case you haven't considered it. Not trying to prove anything.

>>6725371

your emotional response here really betrays what it's all about for you. being faced with the realization that you can't add 'not fat' to your self esteem hitbox is really getting too you huh?

but by god, you've got to get over this habit of yours... just making these assertions -- ''false, incorrect, untruths, lies'' -- what's the point in making these hysterical assertions they aren't at least paired with an actual argument for why what i'm saying is incorrect, fake, lies etc?

> obserqurious
> ambiguous obscurations

stop

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>>6725379
This is a fucking porn thread

On /d/

Not some moron's fucking insulin thesis on /sci/

Fuck all of you

>>6725385
I told you to calm down, you're only digging your own hole.

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>>6725324
You can go it anon. I know you can.

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Is this a thread for some kind of "big walls of text" fetish? Boy, /d/ has some strange people.

>>6725359
I've done keto but it's not something I could ever hold to for a very long time. Making good food on keto is a ton of work. It's much easier for me to simply excise 'white' foods from my diet- white rice, white bread, pasta, etc- and drop the sugar bombs like breakfast cereal and soda- but giving up carbs altogether is just not for me.
To be blunt, I like my beans and my brown rice.

>>6725373

you do realize the 2nd law means energy is conserved, not that energy cannot vary in form?

I'll expect a response here>

> dose 1000ml of testosterone per day
> eat exactly the same amount you normally do
> i'm gaining muscle!
> omg how is this possible 2nd law of thermodynamicz?!

your endocrine profile determines were the energy intake goes, not everyone has the same profile.

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>>6725380
>Abloo bloo bloo, I can't get him to acknowledge my being a cunt in an internet argument on a porn thread I hijacked
If you can't accept the known success of modern fitness and weightloss paradigms and have to push a literal hypothesis to make yourself feel better, go circlejerk about ignorance on tumblr you retard

>>6725387
I'm a filthy leech that doesn't even save pictures. But please dont post tumblr stuff, it reminds me of the crazies.

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>>6725391
>Hurr I'm going to continue to post offtopic and not contribute to the thread
>And also post an obnxious response completely misrepresenting his point
>FOR THE FIFTIETH TIME IN THIS THREAD, I AM SUCH A MADMAN!
10/10

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>>6725396
But there's so much good /gfd/ in tumblr

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>>6725388

>>6725400
yes but this isn't tumblr, I can just go to tumblr if I want right?

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>>6725396
Too bad, all of my pics are from a friend's gfd tumblr

>>6725392

I didn't hijack shit, you people started talking about fatties, not me.

has there even been a post in this thread that wasn't just totally wrongheaded coupled with ridiculous, hysterical assumptions and insults. all this posting and still nobody has (if it's so retarded) actually raised any arguments as to why?

> say fat people are lazy, stupid. make about 10 walls of text about it
> someone disagrees
> scream that he has to prove it, you don't have to prove anything
> he presents a hypothesis, and some pubmed papers supporting it
> people just continue to insult him for about 5 more rounds of posts
> now he's the one shitting up the thread

I'm not going to post any more as this has gone on too far and is indeed shitting up the thread, but by god grow up and, if you're going to be so rude, at least have some consistent principles. who knew mummy fetishists were such babies.

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>>6725410
>well if someone else starts talking about something, it's okay for me to post a dozen walls of text copypasting what I had ready about insulin to absolve all blame and necessary conscious input in solving being fat!
>It's not a hijack even though I didn't even post pictures.

>bloo bloo no consistent principles!
L M A O

Also
Proofs, you fucking hohol.

Oh mods, where art thou?

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>>6725423
In the Land Of Too Late And POST PICTURES OR CONTRIBUTE CONTENT YOU FAGGOT

all I ever wanted from /gfd/ was a lack of judgmental attitudes that have made society the cesspool it is. Since its the same thing that prevents gfd from being accepted. Not saying it should be a hugbox though. Just moderation.

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>>6725426
>If only people were NICE to each other!
>This is surely the reason why I personally think everything sucks!
>There is no other reason, such as the complexity of the human condition, biological, social and cultural survival!
Fucking grow up you retard
If you want to fucking blogpost, go to tumblr, or better yet, write it in a goddamned diary and keep it to yourself, so you can look back in the future at what a fucking dumbass you are.

>>6725430
you deserve everything bad you get anon
harsh words but you really need to wisen up

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>>6725430
You're just being an ass at this point, looking for someone to fight. Think about the choices you made that led you to attack random Anons here and try to learn from them.

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>>6725433
Oh gee, I said some mean things to an utopianist crybaby who ironically lacks the wisdom, or maybe even the intelligence, to understand society, and he tells me to wisen up.

>>6725436
you still don't see it, I do feel sorry for you even amidst my malice. as you said, complexity of human condition.

>>6723459
I was in a gfd relationship. The girl loved it, but at the same time was weirded out by it. So, we would switch up positions and roles. Some nights, she would get on top and ride my dick while sucking and biting my nipples. Other nights, she'd get on her knees while I went to town on her. I guess the object was that we weren't male and female, but 2 people who loved each other equally, and we respected each other equally.
It was beautiful.