BDSM Thread

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>>6719057

>>6718125
nobody wants to read tumblr posts about namefags circlejerking
post porn or GTFO

hey anons me and my gf are into spanking, i'm looking for a good cooling cream for after.
any recomendations?

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>>6720249
That's what I said and did. Don't bitch and not put up porn. Even if you're being ironic, it's still shitposting

>>6720355
I'd recommend over the counter aloe vera as cream as well as a healthy dose of post porn

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Sorry to bother but is the Hitachi Magic Wand the way to go for bound orgasms?

I know there are a lot of fakes so trying to avoid that. Even walmart sells the 'original magic wand' and I wasn't sure if any of those are the real deal. Or what I should do.

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>>6721697
I would only know from porn but I always thought bullet vibrators were the best for bound orgasms. They're also a lot cheaper and easier to keep in place than the magic wand

>>6721697
got my wife one for her birthday like 4 years ago and I haven't been able to top it since. That is the best money I have ever spent on a birthday gift. I don't bind her much at all, but the few times that it has gone that way that Magic Wound had her pleading for orgasm in no time. It really reduced her to a desperate, begging wet mess. You hit the right spot she will come in under a minute, guaranteed, and she will come real hard.
Yes there are lots of fakes, but the real ones are the only one that says Original Magic Wand.
Some time ago Hitatchi stopped putting their name on the machine itself, I suppose since they make it as a massager but it only gets used as a vibrator they are not so keen to have their name linked to it, so keep that in mind when you shop.

>>6718125
>nobody else has posted since then
Missing /bdsmg/ already?

>>6721697
It varies a bit on what kind of stimulation women are into, but if you're tieing her up in the first place the high power back massager is probably a safe bet.

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How do I train a sex slave?

>>6721697
I got a "magic wand" type vibrator from Lovehoney a while back. It's amazingly strong and haven't had any problems whatsoever with it.

It's too powerful for my girlfriend though, so I mostly just use it on myself. She's just too sensitive. I mean, incredibly sensitive. I can make her wet just by rubbing parts of her back, or her hands or even her elbows with just my fingertips. Kind of wasted some money there but I really wanted to get one.

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Anyone have any luck with things ordered from Aliexpress?

Probably have to be careful of low quality, but everything is made in China anyway so I thought it may be fine.

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When doing painplay, how much pain can you actually tolerate? How extreme does it get?

>>6721912

What happened on /bdsmg/?

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>>6722946
Folks like this guy >>6720249 happened on hypertroll mode until everyone was exhausted and moved elsewhere.

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General question:

Dom(me)s, would you ever be happy if you find somebody more dominant than you to be subservient towards them?

Subs- Do you ever see yourself taking charge of a situation if you were paired with a bigger sub?

>>6722004
Depends how far they're willing to go, shock collars are too extreme for some, (I'd settle for them, but I'd rather a collar that you could push a button and a remote and it would tighten around the neck, I don't think they exist)

At the very least do sensory training, so get them to associate you clicking your fingers with a command, you ringing a bell, for another etc. Do a similar thing with scheduling, (Do X at this time)

Of course, you need to find one first.

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>>6723895
What about advice on bathroom use control?

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>>6723929
Honestly I don't like it, as although I'm kind of into humiliation I don't want piss-covered floors.

I mean you could try doing it at set times I guess, or if that doesn't appeal what you could do is having the slave have actions for these things, e.g. for permission to go to the bathroom the slave has to kiss your feet, you can divide it up further if you can think of more, like to use the bathroom they kiss the left foot, for permission to talk they kiss the right foot,

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>>6723944
What about putting the slave in diapers?

>>6723950
It would still need to be cleared up, and wiped/hosed off the slave, and disposed of, (which is more of a problem if you try hosing it off,) Then there's the matter of the smell, and the potential for causing rashes (I don't like pain if the Master/Mistress isn't in control of it)

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>>6723959
What about being made to drink my piss?

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>>6723895
Sub here. I'd definitely dom someone who's more submissive than me.

My ideal relationship would be a ffm triad where I could switch with one of the girls but the other one would be more dominant than both of us.

>>6723967
Would you switching with the other girl work separately, or would you only do it if Mistress ordered you to.

>>6723962
You could do that, put them in an empty bath or shower first, so it's easier to clean though, but also leaves you a way to make them lick it off the tub floor depending on how quickly it drains/if the plug is in or out.

>>6723979
Also how about dressing them up as a schoolgirl and keeping them from using the bathroom?

>>6723984
>keeping them from using the bathroom?
Well I already mentioned that, but when they kiss whatever to ask permission you don't have to say yes, necessarily, you can make them hold it until they're squeaming and practically dancing up and down.

As for the school girl part, I always assumed the slave has to wear whatever their owner picks out/orders them to.

>>6723994
I would make sure she pisses her panties and then I would spank her for being such a little girl.

>>6718300

Is this one from a game? And if so which game?

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>>6723979
When the Mistress was present her orders would obviously go over both of us. So if she was feeling like she wants one of us to dom the other we'd do as she said. It wouldn't even matter that much if I wasn't feeling like domming at all since I'd still be under her and she's ordering me to do it so it's still kinda submissive.

If it was just me and the other girl or our Mistress doesn't have any preference at the time we would be switching based on how we are feeling like. Ideally I'd prefer if they were the dom most of the time.

>>6724001
You could, but IMO there's not much in it if they have no way to physically obey you/

>>6724011
Interesting, I'm more used to them controlling all your sexual interactions. so I was under the impression your Mistress wouldn't leave you two the freedom to do that.

>>6723895
>shock collars
As a switch, that sounds like a extremely fun toy and it doesn't matter if you are a sub or a dom.
However are they really safe? Where do they sell them?

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>>6724028
I mean we're talking about fantasies here. And I personally don't feel like a three person relationship where one person controls all the sexual interactions, even when they're not present, would work that well in the long run. I'd expect freedom for us to do our own shit when the Mistress isn't there, just like it's for one of us and the Mistress when one of the subs isn't around. Obviously if the Mistress has something planned it'd be completely understandable to disallow us from playing with each other when she's not around.

But I'm mostly into gentler stuff and the D/s stuff staying only in the bedroom so there's that.

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>>6724009
Why don't you just google the name and find out for yourself. It's not that hard to figure it out

>>6724059
Honestly, I would look it up, as there are a lot of dos, and don'ts that I'm bound to forget about, and it would generally be safer to find a low amp emitter (no idea where, seen some people say E-stim), and attach it to the thigh or shins, with a collar that's just for show around the neck.

Definitely look it up though to make sure I'm not missing anything out.

>>6724061
Well it depends on the Mistress I guess, some are extremely controlling, never been in a multiple slave system before, so I don't know the finer details.

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>>6724061

>>6724425
I laughed

I need a teacher, I want to train my ass but lack discipline

>>6724061
no, you'd be in chastity when she's out, and possibly some subtle light bondage to make things more frustrating

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How do I get my vannilla bf into bondage?

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>>6723895
>Dom(me)s, would you ever be happy if you find somebody more dominant than you to be subservient towards them?

I tried that and the guy turned out to be a disgusting predator who just wanted the bragging points of having 'turned' a domme. Absolutely fucking never again.

>>6727788
I don't know if you're female or male but, I just flat out told my girlfriend "this is what I like" showed her some stuff, and now we both do it regularly

>>6723895
I'm in a relantionship that started off very vanilla. To make my bf comfortable, I let him dom me sometimes so he knows how it feels like and ease him into the role of the sub. He hasn't dommed since (about three years) but if he'd express the want to, I'd be up for it. I think of myselfas a domme but I find that having sub expreinces makes me better at domming in general.

I wouldn't sub to someone I wouldn't know.

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>>6727788
I love forced intimacy between two sub, especially if they seem a bit uneasy over it.

>>6722068
I hear that on the sensitive option. Tho like my wife the bacl rubs and touching could also just get her relaxed enough to be in the mood. And well if sex usually happens afterwards it may become a partial pavlovian response.

Still as fun as it is watching her explode in a powerful orgasm and then becoming hyper sensitive afterwards, it would be nice to just get her to have smaller orgasms and tease her with them for the rest of the night.

I suppose tho everyone is wired slightly differently, even with some practice and going slower.

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>>6722946
They died of cancer.

Going to my first munch.
What the hell am I doing?

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Something simple.

>>6728009
Munches are for the purpose of making friends. They are NOT to be used as "singles night." If you go there and immediately start hitting on people, you may be told not to return.
Go there with the intention of making friends and learning about people as human beings outside of their bedroom interests. Show politeness and manners. Treat people as human beings and not as sex objects. Don't be an asshole. Don't be vulgar with people you just met. Remember that just because people are kinky, this doesn't mean they're whores.
Do this and you'll do just fine. I did this and a bit over two months later I found myself being used as a human footstool overnight.

>>6728545
>>6728009
Sarcastic Fetlife post I just read today that kinda illustrates the attitude one should not take in this scene:
>That's fucking crazy! Showing a genuine interest in a person as opposed to viewing them as a means to your very particular and esoteric sexual gratification. Naw. I think I'll keep the approach of the prostrating myself before their implied greatness and then beg them to use me in a way that implicitly places my needs before any concerns of their desires. Yea. That's bound to pay off eventually, and I'm overdue.
So yeah. You need to demonstrate that you're there because you're interested in the people there as human beings and not as sex objects.

>>6727943
My idea is getting the two subs to wrestle, ideally with their arms bound and folded behind their backs (no idea what the technical term for that is)

>>6727938
Yeah, I'm not the most creative type, so when it comes to domming I just copy stuff that I liked having done to me/stuff others mentioned that looked interesting

>>6727794
Jesus christ, that sounds awful.

So just a quick question.

Wife and I are having a kid (hurrah) but we're both on the kinky side and luckily enough when she isn't tired tends to be hornier than usual.

So aside from obviously being careful so we make sure we have a happy healthy child, anyone have any suggestions for fun things we can do before she gets too big to be safe to have sex and gives birth? Or at least safe/alternative ways of using cuffs, ropes and whips etc.

I have a few ideas I'd like to try but thought I'd ask here to see if there are things we could try or fun that I haven't had the chance to think about.

I have a question:
I am about to order this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Master-Series-Rubber-Stainless-Jennings/dp/B00E1ZNKJS/ref=pd_sim_sbs_121_1/279-7525608-1077762?ie=UTF8&dpID=51N8Qnb61OL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=1V2WFC2GHT646JTBT7VX

Is this legit, or shall I look elsewhere?
Where else can I get this type of gag cheaply in the UK?

>>6732782
fetishtoybox is good but not uk site

I have a question: anyone have experience with adultrepdao.com?

It's a three hundred dollar fuck machine that doesn't seem like shit quality..
Thinking of getting one for my sub.

She's wanted to be tied up and helpless to get fucked through multiple orgasms


Tl;Dr does China trustworthy?

>>6733950
You could buy the reciprocating saw version. Swapping out dildoes is as easy as swapping out power tool parts.

Plus, if the Harbor Freight grade of reciprocating saw stops working, you can attach the dildo to a professional strength reciprocating saw. Dewalt is a good brand.

So how do I spot a domme when I'm out at a bar or other social gathering? I've only recently surmised that I want to try bdsm as a sub(male here) and I've got no experience with finding them.

>>6734342
Not enough depth in the stroke.

Need that deep fuck

>>6734947
Find a local munch on fetlife. Attend said munch. See also: >>6728545 >>6728549

>>6736037
sauce me please

>>6736037
>Seriously... what are slut.
These hentai subbers really need to get better editing.

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I find it dissapointing that for all sub-genre of bondage, it's nearly impossible to find drawn metal bondage and you can't use "Fiddle" as a common tag-words. (http://www.cuff24.com/english/main-2.htm)

also
Where the hell does that come from ? >>6736039

>>6734342
Recip saw will shred you if it breaks

>>6736900

I can't remember, but that scene is the only thing in that series like that. The rest is disappointment if you are expecting more of the same.

>>6727943
Is the a source for this?

>>6727943
Is there a source for this?

>>6738118
>>6738121
Yes

And there's a built in Google image search feature on here

>>6738118
Sunstone

>>6736037
They must all find her to be very pretty, because I sure can see a lot of stiffs in the backgound

>>6739190
Don't feed the lazy

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are there any pics of girls in gimp hoods?

>>6736023
sauce damnit

>>6721051
nobody wants to read a tumblr posts about namefags circlejerking
post porn or GTFO

>>6740064
Where is your other hand, faggot?

>>6736101

It's one of the specials from Queen's Blade, can't remember which one though

>>6739828
That's not a girl

>>6740064

>demands people post porn or GTFO

Sir, I am going to ask you to GTFO, since you aren't posting porn.

>>6740482
Same to you then dickface

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>>6740482
>>6742490
How bout both of you post porn

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Can't tell if this came out right. Does the speed seem wrong or something?

>>6742574
Looks right to me. What's the source?

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>>6742577
shit, forgot pic

>>6742578

It's from this dude on Pixiv:

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=5010200

I'm trying to go through all the animated pictures on Pixiv and picking out the good bondage related ones and converting to .webm

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>>6742581
actually, looking at the webm and comparing it to the original, the webm is a little fast

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>>6742592

Yeah, I'm having a real pain trying to get the timings right

Maybe I'm just stupid; but I can't actually download the animation from Pixiv. I either have to FRAPs it and convert to .webm, or have IDM download all the frames of the video and then I have to compile to .gif than .webm.

Saving the animation gives me a .png file, and despite manually changing the file type to .gif, it won't actually be animated

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Hmmmm, I think this one turned out all right

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>>6742654
I'd say so to. Good work with the Webm's, keep it up

>>6723895
sub, and ive actually given this some thought. i really enjoy being submissive, a ton, but i could see myself switching with my dom. if someone was just blatantly more submissive than me it would be a little awkward, cus in my opinion the dom isnt JUST the less submissive one.

>>6736224
>HADOUKEN

>>6740482
nobody wants to read tumblr posts about namefags circlejerking
post porn or GTFO

Hey guys, I'm finally going to a rope meet in two weeks.

Does anyone have any tutorials for beginners that they like?

>>6742597
I use the ugoira script from here and it works just fine. https://greasyfork.org/en/forum/discussion/7410/pixiv-ugoira-webm-online-conversion-rules-added

Otherwise, you can try http://ugoira.dataprocessingclub.org/ when it decides it wants to work.

>>6736900
Google search gave me "R-15 OVA 1"

New absolute pet peeve: Vanilla people trying to dictate what consent is.

>>6742594
On phone so i cant get sauce could you post it?

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Going to do some light play with a girl who is an established masochist but pretty sexually inexperienced. Anyone want to share some fun denial games that use minimal equipment and that can be done partially clothed? I want to keep things relatively cozy. My last partner knew herself sexually much better so I'm concerned about expecting too much.

I'll be smuggling some bullets and clothespins in, at the least.
>>6728009
try not to be that guy

>>6745919
welcome to university

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>>6746013

I don't remember the name. It was some Queens Blade OVA

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Was lazy and forgot to convert more animations

More .webm's to come

>>6727943

Much as I like shiniez he draws some shit that would be seriously dangerous to actually attempt and it makes me afraid people will go out and try it because of his popularity.

>>6718125
Ugh I was late to work because of this thread.

Got tied up.

>>6727794
Kek, that sounded pretty hot, honestly.

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Anybody got any good straitjacket pictures?

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>>6723238
>hyper troll mode

It's completely true. It was a bunch of faggots discussing shit no one cared about instead of just posting images.

This is my fetish but I fucking hate the special snowflake tumblr tier community that inhabits every fucking BDSM region of the net.

>>6719059
At least it will shut her up for once.

>>6742611
Source?

>>6746424
Give example

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So I turned 18 pretty recently and I was thinking of getting a fetlife account so I can learn more about BDSM. Is it looked down upon to make an account just to learn and not meet up/post pics or anything?

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>>6757599
i would say its probably encouraged. fetlife people are pretty good about being open and helping people learn, at least ones ive met. learning is a good thing, there are plenty of people in the community who would love to be able to help you get started safely

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>>6757605
replying to myself to see if i get a new name each time or if ill be peter hogan again

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>>6757605
What should I do after registering?

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>>6757665
well, people are pretty stingy about random friending. its much more like a social media type dealio than a dating sight or w/e. id just make your profile, put in a healthy amount i guess, and join some groups, introduce yourself. im sure there are many many groups specifically tailored to new people and people who are interested in learning more. so just look for some of those, and introduce yourself. im sure the replies will come fairly quickly. im guessing you know enough about irl kink communities to not use your real name and stuff if you dont want people knowing, etc. people take their privacy real serious on there.

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>>6757605
>>6757750
The one thing I don't get about Fetlife is how searching for any information is close to impossible. You can search for people (somewhat), kinks, and groups, but you can't search the past threads of groups or content in general. Makes it hard to find information on specific topics. :(

>>6721697
It's my favourite toy, bar none, but it does have issues. It's really hard to use in the moment with a partner because it's fucking huge and awkward and it's a plug-in.

I lot of girls find it too strong, too, though you can use a dimmer extension or just wrap a towel over it. I usually start with a towel and then gradually remove layers to get to max power.

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How trans-friendly are BDSM spaces, usually? I'm a trans girl early in her transition, and eventually, I'd really like to find a master who loves me. I mean, there are only so many self bondage things that are safe to do on my own, y'know?

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>>6759071
personally, ive found bdsm communities to be extremely trans accommodating, if not outright accepting.(personal experience, im trans myself) i mean, some people are into some freaky stuff, they arent bothered by gender as much. i mean, if youre cool with someone getting whipped till theyre bleeding, youre fine with someone transitioning i guess. hope that helps.

of course you'll get people who just dont get it, or dont know about it, but most of the time theyd be happy to learn, and wouldnt judge or anything.

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>>6759233
I think I have a fetish for Stockholm syndrome. Images like that turn me on way too much.

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>>6759722
hey, youre spot on. stockholm syndrome might my favorite fetish. glad you liked the picture, theres a few other, but theyre amutee oriented, so idk if it would be cool for me to post them here.

(also, i saved your pic too, thanks :3 )

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>>6760600
>>6759722
ps, im an idiot, i misread what you wrote as
>i think you have a fetish for stockholm syndrome

and i was like, wtf howd you know that

>>6757498
The pic that anon quoted ( >>6727943 ) is a good example, actually. Suspension can be pretty dangerous; you need to keep a close eye on things. That goes double for long-term suspension; if someone's going to be hanging for hours, you need to be sure that it's not fucking with their bloodflow. Gags are similarly problematic, since they hinder the sub's ability to communicate if there is a problem.

Biggest problem in that pic, then, is the dom going to bed and leaving the subs hanging overnight, unspotted. Leaving two subs gagged and suspended overnight (next to a roaring fire, for bonus points) definitely sounds like a 'do not try this IRL' thing to me.

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>>6740278
>>6736101
>>6736037

Anybody have any luck finding which Queen's Blade this is?

>>6754682
You got triggered by the smallest shit, we all saw you.

>>6736039

>haveaseat.png

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>>6762354
>replying to a post from almost a week ago
>trying to contribute to a fight that's been over
>not even posting content

C'mon senpai, step your game up

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Maybe you ladies and gents can offer me some inspiration. I'm a dom, dating a domme. She's my distaff counterpart. Neither one of us will submit, so sex has been a very interesting needle to thread. The attempt to make the other submit is met with defiance on both our parts. The idea of submission is anxiety inducing. Role playing is a lot of fun. Animal passion is no problem, but I think I found a way to up the ante. Intimacy intensification, vulnerability, trust, openness exercises while still at eye level,figuratively and literally. The only one I could come up with so far is administering enemas. Not as humiliation, but more as a no judgment, just acceptance thing. Anyone perhaps have any suggestions for something that could achieve a similar effect?

>>6736026
>>6736029
Damn, whats this from?

>>6736131
Got more sensory deprivation?

>>6759071
Bdsm is about trust, and you're lying about your gender and delusional.

Why the hell would you think you'd be welcome at all?

>>6764228
...man, you got some things wrong there...

>>6759071
we're as friendly to that as we are with anyone.

NO BLEEDING ON THE COUCH, NOR ANY OTHER FLUIDS WITHOUT A LINER AND A TOWEL.(grumbling about stains on my upholstery)

we(the groups in my area at least) tend not to give a good goddamn unless your day-job is as a member of either the press or the police (because reasons). though I heard there was a group starting that allowed them.

if you're Trans does that make your ass less spankable or your back less whippable? nope? cool.
granted I might squick out but I'm so straight that it adversely effects gay-dars within a given radius. but thats me being irrational, most people don't particularly give a solitary damn.

I have a question: Does somebody here have experience as a male having more than just one partner over the time? How do you handle the toys you have? For example collars cuffs or ropes. Do you buy them new for every girl or are they cool with using them even if somebody else wore it beforehand?
Also if they are girls in this thread how do you feel about it? Fresh toys for you or reusing them? Where is the line?

Sry for no pic once i get home ill post some

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>>6765031
Things that can fluid bond I don't use on multiple partners. Thinks that can't be effectively disinfected. That includes leathers and ropes. It makes alternative materials attractive to me. Fiberglass, plastics, and disposable implements, like wooden switches. It may be a bit over the top, but I like it. As far as toys are concerned, your silicones and thermoplastics, it doesn't matter from a hygiene point of view, since there are no pores and so is easily disinfected, but in my experience most women mind anyways. Condoms can go a long way there

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>>6752574
here ya go

>>6765173
agreed.

>Condoms can go a long way there
BE COOL WRAP YOUR TOOLS

that applies doubly so for BDSM

>>6764244
You saying bdsm isn't about trust?

>>6766093
...you know there isn't any deception going on in this as of yet?...

so long as there are no surprises when I get them out of their underpants there is not deception or lack of trust. you're not using your english correctly...

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>>6766093
There's always this asshole who brings up the "rule book" and "instructional guides" on how to be a proper sadist/masochist.
"BDSM is about trust", "safe, sane, consensual", all that shit. It's starting to get on my nerves.

>>6766131
...but it is about trust, and SSC is quite alright as a means of doing things, HOWEVER...

that particular dude is really trying to force his opinion that a trans-person is lying. this is incorrect, so long as they are straight forward about their plumbing there is no lying

>>6765031
None of that's a problem if the toys are being used on you :^)

>>6766145
>...but it is about trust
How the fuck do you just make a statement about the nature of BDSM like that?
Did the guy who first practiced BDSM say this?
Would it even matter if he did?

BDSM is what you make of it. It isn't just about trust.
Staying safe is about trust. Maybe not everyone wants to be safe.

>>6766145
They're lying to themselves, playing pretend with gender

>>6766131
No by all means, put yourself in situations where you can be harmed or forced against your will without trust...

Genius

>>6766275
Nah, it's a preference thing. Some people like to look feminine and feel feminine, e.g. be called she, etc.

>>6766283
Where did I say it's a good idea or you have to do it? Right, nowhere.
Now tell me again how
>BDSM is about trust
is more right than
>BDSM is not about trust and living dangerously

You can't.
Because you can't simply define BDSM like that. Idiot.

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Anyone know where to get a nice chunky nubbed dildo like the one being inserted in this image?
Having trouble finding anything besides glass dildos with minor bumps

>>6766295
Take half a second and Google bdsm+trust

It's about trust, you dense motherfucker

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>>6766347
Will you not learn?

Simply because a lot of people associate trust with "Bondage, Discipline, Sadism and Masochism" doesn't make these things in nature have something to do with trust.

If someone isn't interested in the element of trust, they can still practice BDSM. They wouldn't do it incorrectly either.

If BDSM has something to do with trust for you personally, then that's fine.

But it doesn't make your statement
>BDSM is about trust
true. It's still just personal belief.


And stop calling me stupid.

>>6766374
>one partner is allowing another to do things on the faith that they will not cross certain bounds or stop when the safe-signal is given

That's how you practice it. Might not be true for all people.

>and BDSM doesn't have to be dangerous, it can be and often is, but danger is not required

I never said it was.

>don't resort to name calling, it will strengthen your point in his mind

Nice manipulation. Too bad it doesn't make what you say any truer.

>>6766175
>Would it even matter if he did?
nope.

>It isn't just about trust
>isn't just
nope, but so much of it requires trust that my earlier comment is not in fact incorrect, just incomplete.

>>6766275
ah, so you're just a troll or possessed of low intelligence.
I can trust someone who lies to themselves so long as they don't lie to ME, if the equipment in the pants is what it's described to be then they aren't lying. now get along back to /pol/ or wherever you came from.

>>6766295
hair splitting man, and just because a thing cannot be fully defined does not mean that you cannot name major components...

>>6766394
>If someone isn't interested in the element of trust, they can still practice BDSM. They wouldn't do it incorrectly either.
this is a false follow, because while it isn't wrong it is at the least not quite what we're debating.
you can have no interest in that aspect, but it is still required by at least one party.

>And stop calling me stupid
he shouldn't have done that yes.

>>6766394
>>6766374
sorry, meant to clean up my comment for clarity and a rephrase.
>That's how you practice it. Might not be true for all people.
"might not", and "is not" are different. trust is still a logical requirement of the bound/submissive/masochistic party or else they would not allow the behaviors of the dom/rigger/sadist. if they did not trust they would not do, even if they SHOULD NOT trust and still consent they are still trusting.

>>6766328
you might try Bad Dragon.

>>6766436
>sorry, meant to clean up my comment so it sounded more cool and like I'm a confident person
fix'd!

>you can have no interest in that aspect, but it is still required by at least one party.
Wrong. If a rape involves bondage, discipline, masochism and/or sadism, it still doesn't require trust.
Maybe consensual BDSM requires it. Who knows? BDSM alone doesn't.

>he shouldn't have done that yes.
Yea, I'm still sad.

>>6766457
So consensual bdsm needs trust

Rape with bdsm doesn't


Then thank you for making my point

>>6766394
>People are this stupid in 2016

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>>6766457
>fix'd!
not quite, replace "confident" in that sentence with "less rushed" and you'd have fixed it properly.

>Maybe consensual BDSM requires it.
one of the assumptions I started this exchange with was consent.

>>6766468
will you stop that?
name calling is NOT helping.

NOW POST SOME PORN DAMMIT.

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>>6766464
So you agree with me? Great!

>>6766468
Fuck you. Kill yourself, you fucking retard. I hate you. Stupid bitch.

>>6766477
>one of the assumptions I started this exchange with was consent.

Exactly. It's merely an assumption, not part of "BDSM".
So the statement
>BDSM is about trust
is still false. BAM

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>>6766490
it could be argued that without consent those practices would more accurately be rape, sexual assault, battery, etc.

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>>6766501
Oh, the next assumption.
>BDSM needs to be legal
So if you're in bondage, but don't actually want to be, you're then not in bondage?

If it's rape, sexual assoult, etc. it can still be sadism, masochism, involve discipline and bondage.

>>6766511
>BDSM needs to be legal
incorrect, my implication was that it would need to be consensual, not legal.

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>>6766523
You used juridical terms.

So it needs to be consensual to be called BDSM?
Is this the only true definition?
If I said BDSM doesn't need to be consensual to be called BDSM would it be wrong?

Because that's what some people here try to tell me which pisses me off.
Just because it's consensual when they do it doesn't mean BDSM in nature has to be.

>>6766482
Tell me how you really feel

>>6766490
Bdsm is about trust
Still true. BAM

I can do that too... Stop being a deluded fuck and actually try to prove your point

>>6766482
>>6766490
>>6766545
Seriously, are you really advocating rape?

>>6766482
Easy there land whale mcrape lover

>>6766551
I did in that exact post and everyone else.
You're just too stupid to partake in the discussion. Don't be mad at me for that. It's your fault.

>>6766559
No. This is a question of definition.

>>6766570
Call me land whale again you fuck. I weigh 130 lbs and do cardio every day.

Are you morons really trying to advocate committing sexual crimes for your fetish?

You are literally scum

>>6766591
Land whale, stop with the rape advocacy

You're disgusting

Hope you get locked up

Seriously, you're what's rotten in this community

>>6766607
But I didn't advocate rape!

How do you not see what I'm trying to say?

Are you just mean on purpose now?

>>6766591
Defining your own personal criminal lust... Just get out you retard

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>>6766559
he isn't, though he seems to be treating the act as inconsequential, which it isn't

>>6766545
>You used juridical terms.
to put a defining separation on the difference between BDSM and non-consensual similar activities.

>>6766593
I'm not, but that seems to be moot by this point.

>>6766607
mostly the uninformed, and the intentionally antagonistic. the IRL community in my region boots people like that.

I'd suspect he's just being intentionally antagonistic, but I have no concrete details.

>>6766612
You're advocating bdsm without consent.
Which is rape

Thus advocating rape

Is your feeble mind unable to comprehend this basic logic process?

>>6766617
Does your community boot people for non consensual bdsm?

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>>6766622
yup, and where it wouldn't also damage the victim we report it to the authorities

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>>6766613
NO.
STOP IT. IT WAS JUST ABOUT THE DEFINITION FOR ME. I DON'T WANT TO RAPE SOMEONE I PROMISE!

>>6766619
I NEVER TRIED OR WANTED TO ADVOCATE IT! I DIN'T SAY IT'S GOOD OR ANYTHING! PLS STOP

>>6766617
>to put a defining separation on the difference between BDSM and non-consensual similar activities.

Ok, but this is how you practice BDSM. Non-consensual BDSM does exist.

>>6766630

>Ok, but this is how you practice BDSM. Non-consensual BDSM does exist.

And it's called rape

You disgust me, stop promoting and siding with rapists

>>6766627
Good.

I can't believe these pro rape assholes in here are so moronic

>>6766630
No. Stop it.

Sounds like something you'd ignore, rapist pig

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>>6766638
>>6766643

>stop promoting and siding with rapists
This is getting so retarded I'm not even going to answer you trolls anymore.
I'm just going to ignore anyone who's going to say anything similar.

My intention all along was to show that the statement
>BDSM is about trust
might be true to some, but you can't say that trust is always a part of BDSM.

I haven't been disproven. Now I need to calm down and try not to get too angry at you people.

>implying I would rape someone
I don't even ever top in consensual BDSM.

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>>6766630
Rapist.

>>6766630
No. Non-consensual sexual activity is rape. Thank you for your clear and precise statements on the issue. It is now evident you are not being merely being obtuse, deliberately or otherwise, but are a dangerous individual. Kindly die in a fire. ಠ_ಠ

>>6766646
If trust is not involved in bdsm, then you are open for or to rape occurring.

Please kindly speak to a shrink and get fixed

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>>6766646
Broseph, no matter how you try to sugarcoat it, that's rape.

End of story. 3edgey5me

>>6766659
Fire is both more efficient reliable in its results.

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I wonder if the Raping Autist is on a government watchlist.

>>6766669
I certainly hope so

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>>6766646
So much cognitive dissonance.

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>>6766651
It might be rape, but it can still involve bondage, discipline, sadism and masochism.
You might define BDSM as consensual activity. It's fine. I never practiced or intend to practice rape.
I'm not dangerous.
Please don't tell me to die in a fire.

>>6766659
I'm actually not open to it. This was not a discussion of preferences to me.
It's just that BDSM can happen to be unintentional.

I hope you all get what I was trying to say. There is absolutely no point in saying it, but it's true.

>>6766703
I mean, if you want a comparison...

if you want to say sex can still happen between an adult and a child.

But I don't think I'd get you arguing the same in pedophilia...

>>6766712
If it happens between a child and an adult I can still call it sex. It wouldn't be wrong.

Look, I'm not saying it's wrong if you say that it isn't sex anymore. But I wouldn't be wrong either.

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Is this it? No more backtalk?
The smell of victory...

I'm the last one on the battlefield. I finally got the point across.

Sweet.

So again for everyone.

The statement "BDSM is about trust" is not universally true.

The relief...
This was important to me.

>>6761170
I think he's aware of this.
As the series has grown and developed he's phased scenes like this out and has been gradually selectively re-introducing them as scenes in one of the character's fantasy novels.

Before that though he added some "after" comics where the characters are talking about "oh it wasn't that bad I came back after 10 minutes and let you down." Like I said though he's been taking down old ones like this as the series has grown in popularity. I'm not sure I could even find the one I'm thinking of anymore.

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>>6766865
Realized I hadn't checked in a while. He's re-uploading a few of his old drawings with some added text "from the book" in place of old/non-existent dialogue.

>>6766741
No you fucktard, stop promoting rape

Maybe the others got tired of your denial.

Please get help

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>>6766879
Just because you don't like the truth doesn't make it false.

BDSM=Bondage, Discipline, Sadism, Masochism

Does BDSM by definition have to include "consensual" or "trust"?

No. It's as simple as that.

Let's make a deal. I will promise to get professional help if you accept this simple truth.

>>6766882
How are you so deluded?

Your definition is wrong. Google it, it's a quintessential component

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>>6766882
>Does BDSM by definition have to include "consensual" or "trust"?
Is this what we're doing now? Feeding trolls?

>>6766882
>this moron won't give up lel

>>6766885
>>6766882
Is this what we've devolved to, samefagging to support your rapist delusions?

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>>6766889
Just leave.

>>6766890
Cute, you can use MSpaint to support your rape culture

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>>6766884
If you have a car and drive too fast, does it cease to be a car? No.
If you practice BDSM without trust, is it not BDSM anymore?

It still is BDSM.

>>6766889
So funny and original. Bonus internets for meme knowledge, idiot.

>>6766887
I just came back from my daily cardio and squats and I'm going to check this thread and keep debating.

>>6766882
Do I really have to come back to you still arguing like a fuck wit to support rape?

>>6766893
Apples and oranges

But sure equate a person getting raped to driving a car, you idiotic fuck

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>>6766892
Fuck it.
Let's just go back to posting porn already.

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>>6766898
It's still bondage and sadism even if you don't consent.
Rape or not.

bump limit

>>6766901
It's still wrong and no

>>6766902
You can thank the rapist for that

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>>6766903
Nice arguments. Fuck off.

>>6766907
When you stop promoting your rape culture, sure