Poison? Does it matter if she is a shemale or not?

Well the original creator always intended to make her female from the start anyway, he just got afraid that fictictional cartoon violence against a woman would receive a negative backlash, which was a silly concern because notable females in fighting/ action games already existed by then , so they decided to give her some silly tranny back story becuause violence on trans people somehow more appropriate. To bad sjw faggots nowadays just praise her as some progressive inclusive symbol of lgbt representation when really her original message was basically "it's ok to beat on trans people" so now we have an otherwise standard female character with a pointless shemale back story tacked on. I hate Japan's habit of "let's draw a generic anime girl but say it's a boy, because reasons"

>>6683057
I like her specifically because she's a shemale.

>>6683085
That's wrong asshat. Her original design sketches always labeled her a newhalf.

Does anyone know where that one CG set/doujin of Poison's dick shrinking into uselessness and then at the end growing to be fuckhuge, but cumming at the drop of a hat, is?

I've looked all over sadpanda and can't quite manage to find it again.

If she was female:

>/d/ would just add a dick anyway

If she was a tranny

>/d/ would add another dick

And so on. /d/ doesn't care either way.

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>>6683085
thats a myth. pic related; it says newhalf

>>6683176
Poetry in motion.

>>6683057
No, no one should give a fuck.

>>6683085
>people still parroting the same incorrect bullshit without checking their sources and know what the fuck they're talking about

>>6683176
She IS female. The fact that she happens to have a penis is irrelevant.

>>6685005
>futafags still basing their entire argument on some sketches with moonrunes that didn't even show up until the debate was 10 years old

She's female, gtf over it and add dicks if you're gay.

>>6686631

>people scared of being gay ignoring the word of the original creator because they can't mentally handle getting hard over a chick with a dick

Hilarious every time

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>>6686585
So is this what we are going to do in this thread.

We are gonna fight?

>>6683057
Yes it does matter.
I cant stand fullpackage shit, either make it a girl or a shemale.

Futanari fucking sucks and looks like a mutation.

>>6687347
Amen!

>>6687347
Coming to /d...
complaing about dicks. Brilliant.
btw, how do you describe 'shemale?
because from the definitions I've seen, shemale is basicly dick with tits.
Sounds like what you want is futa, dick with female parts.
Although... fuck it, that's been argued either way for a while now on here, so I guess that doesn't matter.

>>6687387
It's like, you're trying to be retarded. He's not complaining about dicks. He's complaining about vaginas. He wants his girls to either have dicks or vaginas, not both. I agree. A futanari with no balls is the biggest turn off for me.

Poison is great because she's a shemale, or a trans woman if you want to be PC, but it's pretty much implied she's a sex worker anyway, so who gives a fuck. She's got a rocking body and is packing heat in those shorts. Who wouldn't want to fuck her in the ass? Fags obviously.

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>>6686631

I love his the main crux of your argument is evidence written in "moon runes" by the original creator of the character and therefore somehow invalid.

I'm not going to sit here and tell you you're wrong but since Capcom won't go on record to confirm or deny anything, all of this is just a lot of bitching and moaning for no reason.

But if you somehow believe that you have the divine wisdom to lay some truth upon our heathen ears about all this then you sir are a fucking retard.

>mfw he made another stealth futa thread

Get fucked you queer

>>6687937
>never been officially confirmed or refuted
>both with and without cock versions have equal validity
>eat a dick

Does it matter? Hell no it doesn't matter. Enjoy this bitch however you want, her gender ambiguity makes her good for that.

But if your experience is ruined because other people are enjoying something you like differently than how you do, you need to put on your big boy pants and fucking get over it.

As stated earlier by a few people, despite the notations by the original creator (retcon is always a possibility), Capcom hasn't taken any position on the matter, even though refusing to makes me feel like she really might be trans. Either way there is no "truth" to all this and all y'all need to shut your face holes, pick your Poison (see what I did there?) and fap.

CAN I GET AN AMEN?!

>>6688059
I'll amen to that. It's just a waist of energy.

>>6688689
*waste

Damn spellcheck

>>6683085
go back to tumblr and over analyze there

>>6683085
>I hate Japan's habit of "let's draw a generic anime girl but say it's a boy, because reasons"

I honestly never see that happen unless it was intended from the inception of the idea, much like Poison.

>>6683085
>>6688706
>I hate Japan's habit of making characters that arouse me but threaten my fragile sexual insecurities when it turns out they have a cock so I blame them for doing this "to" me rather than realizing it's my own fucking issue, not theirs.

Fixed.

>>6683057
I prefer her with a vagina but I don't mind the dick

I somehow didn't learn she's trans until I was a teen, that's probably why I have a preference in the first place, I normally enjoy the androgyny and stuff like futas

>>6687539
Agreed

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Unless there's officially licensed DLC from Capcom that gives you a version of Poison with a bulge, none of us are ever going to know for sure.

And for the record, Poison as a tranny kind of makes sense coming from a franchise like Final Fight which was full of bizarre shit like that or have we all forgotten about Ash?

>>6690069

Well the whole point of that game was to clean up the mean streets of Metro City overrun with gang members, drug dealers and obviously sexual deviants. At that point in time I'm sure to the Japanese, sex workers and transsexuals/transvestites were seen as "deviant" and therefore were fair game to have the shit kicked out of them. Ergo Poison, her color swap Roxie and Ash among a few other sexually provocative enemies.

Though oddly enough I've heard Roxie is canonically full female regardless of being a palette swap and whether or not you accept Poison being trans/futa.

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>>6690177

I find the lack of Japanese content involving both Poison and Roxy together to be disapointing, sure she's just a palette swap but she's still her own character regardless.

So...would a Rule 63 of Poison be a vagina boy then?

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>tfw all the arguments supporting Poison having a penis make a lot more sense while arguments of those against it boil down to "don't yuck my yum".

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>>6687343

>>6690283

I love the play on words with this one

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>>6690177
If you look back at Japanese media from the 1980s-90s, Poison was anything but an isolated case. Like pic related: the main antagonist from a manga called Apocalypse Zero, a man who grew tits and turned evil because he put on a cursed suit of armor.

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>>6690327
There's also Berg Katze, one of the main villains from Gatchaman, who physically swaps gender every other year of his/her life.

>>6690338
And let's not forget the evil Baron Asura from Mazinger Z, who was literally half-man, half-woman, stuck together right down the middle.

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>>6690355
forgot pic, dammit

>>6690355
>imagines half a cock split lengthwise and throws up in mouth

>>6688059
>As stated earlier by a few people, despite the notations by the original creator (retcon is always a possibility), Capcom hasn't taken any position on the matter, even though refusing to makes me feel like she really might be trans.

I think it's more because either answer would hurt them in the end. Saying she's a woman would offend the gay/transsexual rights groups and make them look like they retconned her because something is inherently wrong with a shemale equaling bad press, protests, smear campaigns, all that SJW bullshit.

If they say she does have a dick, it hurts her mainstream popularity among the primarily hetero male fanbase and sales on any Poison related merch and DLC.

So better to give no answer at all. That being said, since either consequence is just as bad, we will never know and should stop with all the bitching.

>Poison threads are always filled arguing about what Poison is instead of posting pictures

I fucking hate you people.

On a side note Chinbotsu's new Poison doujin was fucking superb

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>>6690757

>>6690740
This Engrish is killing me.

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>>6690765
and that's it.

>>6690762
I don't think it's Engrish. It's just a blunt translation.

>>6687240
>in /d/
>scared of being gay
>8/10 threads are futa X
It's bait

>>6690423

You also forget that by keeping what's between her legs a mystery, she remains a hotly debated topic and center of attention which in the end can only be a good thing for them.

>>6690609
You may notice though the majority of arguments this time around are people just saying who the fuck cares, shut up and fap. Most of the anti-shemale debaters gave up, saying their peace and leaving (by not reading counter arguments, they can maintain their belief that they're right.)

>>6683085
She was always supposed to be a tranny. When it was imported to America they changed to straight girl. It wasn't violence towards women, but being bitches about weird fuckers.

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>>6691617

Well actually that depended a great deal on the platform involved. The Sega Genesis kept the original sprite albeit censored slightly while the SNES version swapped her and Roxy out for male characters (who stil moved like women oddly enough). Arcade versions of her varied depending on the version.

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Relevant. Screenshot from one of the games; not sure which one. Capcom is just fucking with people with ambiguous context.

>Always a Poison thread asking the same question on the board at all times since forever
>People still earnestly debating this
Newfags...

The "Newhalf" notations started with the Super Famicom version. Apparently, part of the decision to start referring to her as a Newhalf was due to the fact that the way she dressed couldn't be taken as proper female attire in Japan at the time.
One of the creators eventually said that the Japanese version of Poison is pre-op and just tucks her junk away really well while the US version of Poison is post-op and doesn't have any junk to tuck away.

>>6692162

Well in all fairness, oldfags are the ones who turned fighting over stupid shit into the very foundation of 4chan as a whole. Only thing they have over everyone else is seniority and more experience at it.

>>6692226

Can you cite precedence? Genuinely interested in this claim.

>>6692226

Please redirect your attention to >>6685738

Well, it doesn't really matter much. In Japan, she's always considered to be a tranny since most of the Japanese manuals make a point of calling her a newhalf every since they first started providing character profiles. It's just the other countries where they don't bother to clarify.
Capcom USA regularly treats her as a cis-het female in their translations or tries to dance around the issue completely. I guess it's kind of like the character in the old Gatchaman/Battle Of The Planets series where the Japanese version has one of the villains as a hermaphrodite but the English-language rewrite turned it into a brother and sister to dance around the issue.

They made her a girl since the first fucking game and only changed the gender because hitting woman was considered bad back then and then keep fucking up because of the same shit.

>>6692725
>ignores every single shred of evidence that disproves beyond a shadow of a doubt that old theory cuz muh dick needz duh vajajay
>also namefag for no reason.

Honestly did you even read anything in this thread before dropping that truth bomb?

>>6692907

>Pro Shemale: "Well if you look at this corroborated source from the development team along with these notations..."
>Anti-Shemale: *fingers in ears* "LA LA LA LA LA I'M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG LA LA LA LA PENIS BAAAAD!!"

There are two types of people in these threads.

Those who research into something genuinely wanting to get to the truth regardless of whether the outcome is something they agree with just to put it all to rest.

And then there are those who research into something, only accepting what supports their pre-established beliefs, refuting all others and believe if they present said findings as truth enough times, that will somehow make it valid.

The whole starting off as a female and made trans for violence against women theory has already been proven wrong numerous times. Find new material to support that insecure denial guys.

The "newhalf" label first appeared in the Japanese Super Nintendo manual. It was added to some of the design docs from the arcade when they were working on the SNES/SFC port. Early on, both Roxy and Poison were listed as newhalf. Since then, Capcom Japan has only confirmed that Poison is newhalf because nobody gives a shit about Roxy, apparently, or maybe they decided that Roxy should be the option for people who like Poison but don't like the idea of her having a dick. The whole thing about the character being changed due to Nintendo is true for the USA version, where they replaced her with a male character. Nintendo Japan did have some restrictions against violence towards women in games marketed towards children, so it's still possible the "newhalf" label was actually added during that iteration. The Japanese have never really have a lot of respect for transgender individuals so I could see them thinking that beating up a newhalf could be more acceptable than beating up a woman.

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>>6692913

So like...science VS creationism?

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I think Japan's longtime acknowledgement of the existence of trans people would be cool and decent if it weren't for the fact that they're always portrayed as criminals and villains, without exception. It's practically vaudeville.

>>6693594

Western history hasn't painted a much better picture to be fair. Plus all the examples cited originated in the 70's/80's; they've obviously come a long way progressively with how they depict such characters in their media. I mean fuck, /d/ wouldn't be here if they didn't.

>>6693726
I know we're really no better on this side; hell, most folks here still treat them as carnival freaks, and there's a loud number of gays that want to take the T out of LGBT (and the B, while they're at it, but I'm digressing a bit).

I guess I kinda-sorta made that post hoping to bait somebody into providing a counterexample from anime, really.

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>>6693594

One thing I will say about this is that, over time, a lot of them have ended up being fan-favorite characters anyway. Like Poison here, or Flea from Chrono Trigger, or Vivian from Paper Mario. While I don't doubt they were used as villains for negative reasons, over time it seems to have "backfired" on those original intentions.

>>6694914

I think nowadays it's done more ironically and tongue-in-cheek style. Sort of keeping up the tradition but still making them all likeable in various ways.

>>6685005
I can read moon runes. Can confirm it says newhalf.

>>6695198

Don't bother. The only people who argue against that are of the "FEMALE MAKE ME HARD SO COCK BAD AND I MUST DENY!" variety XD

In Japan, Poison and Roxy were supposed to be shemale prostitutes. The early sketches made them look a little more manly than their final designs. It helped to make them seem more appropriate to beat up and explain why they weren't as weak as the first stage enemies.

If you cosplay as Poison, you should wear a huge strap-on that leaves a huge bulge in your panties.

Anyone got this one where Poison and Roxy bang some twinkish boy?

>>6690069
Ash wasn't in Final Fight you idiot. You are mixing franchises.

I don't care, I just wanna ravage her asshole, and everyone has those.

>>6683057
My fantasy is Poison is a shemale and Roxy is a female, and I'm having a threesome with them.

>>6697247

Well to be fair SoR was really just a knock-off of FF albeit a really successful one so I can see where the confusion would come from. If you just showed me a random screenshot there's a chance I'd get them confused too.

I rather like that the creators put in a dickgirl martial artist. I mean, I like getting pegged too but cock is better in many ways. Heavy BDSM and rape play with a big-boobed martial artist with a huge cock? Yes please!

Its something with a chick that have pink hair and a big delicious cock that make me tick so bad.. cant have her as a normal girl!

I always love it when the anti shemale people get beaten down by popular opinion, run off with their tail between their legs and yet next time another Poison thread comes along they'll just act like none of this ever happened and start up again.

Hilarious and sad really.

>>6697220
Gotcha
http://nhentai.net/g/148692/

>>6698449
Thanks bro!

>>6698449

The dialogue in that one is too friggin funny. Hot either way though.

>>6683057
It does matter when it comes to fap material, because we all have our own preferences. But it's a question with no definitive canon answer (female in Japan, shemale in America) so it's stupid to argue about it.

>>6700353
>says "theres no answer" while still slipping in that in Japan she's a full female (ergo should be the right answer) which is wrong.

It has no definitive answer because Capcom won't go on record with an answer meaning even in Japan its still unknown just as much as it is here in the states.

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>>6697259
You'd really have to hear them to appreciate the difference; Yuzo Koshiro composed all the Streets of Rage/Bare Knuckle soundtracks, which cribbed a lot from 80s/90s Detroit house music (I hang out with game music dorks, some of it rubs off on me). Not that I didn't love Final Fight, but SOR stuck with me more just because of the cool tunes.Too bad we never got decent Blaze hentai back in the day...

Double Dragon Neon's Linda turned out uncomfortably hot too, so here's hoping someone with talent can do a Linda x Poison slut-off or something.
>dat garter + stockings
>dem high kicks
>ON YOUR KNEES, LEES

>>6700353
>>6700651
>BAWWWWW!!! COCK IS BAD!!! NEED TO FAP TO PINK HAIR LADYYY!! BAWWWWWW!!!

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How do you feel about people who cosplay as Poison?

>>6705951

I'd feel about their body for as long as they'd let me.

>>6705951

If they use enough lube, it won't hurt (much).

>>6687539
>He's not complaining about dicks. He's complaining about vaginas.

/d/ in a nutshell.