Discussion: What if sex were publicly acceptable?

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It'd be fuckin awesome, I'd be able to do shit like the time I fingered my ex (at the time she and I were dating) in the middle of class without having to worry about being embarrassed

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A key factor in this globalized scenario is that as sex was never viewed as anything to look twice at, there was never a schism in how men and women were viewed regarding sex. At no point were men or women viewed or judged by their capacity to breed/performance in doing so, the roles and functionality of each sex in reproduction, and later on, in general sexual activity, never differed much.

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Zoom a couple thousand years forward. What are the immediate differences? For starters, all bathrooms and locker rooms are unisex.

Without the schism in sexual roles and perception, there was never an "us and them" mentality regarding "his" and "hers." There's no notion anywhere of any "battle of the sexes." Young schoolchildren are never divided along gender lines. There's no concept of "cooties" at that age, and the boys and girls generally just get along. Friend groups are notably more mixed, including into later years.

So when the kids grow up, there's not a lot of discourse in a mixed locker room (the danger of rape is also reduced, as I'll explain later). Girls are also just as likely to ask a guy for help fastening a bra as they would another girl, to help complete the image. Plus, sex in those locker rooms or in the group showers is perfectly A-OK.

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Another perk is better sex-ed. Since sex isn't something "inappropriate" to talk about, kids are told from a young age how sex is responsibly handled. We get better- and more widely-used birth control, abortions are kept to a minimum.

Also, PSA ads don't have anything to hold back. A billboard by the roadside advertising proper condom use wouldn't shy away from putting a pic of an actual schlong on it.

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What also helps prevent the sexual schism between the genders is that sex is no longer treated as a coveted commodity among men, and nothing that women have to reserve themselves from.

Resultingly, men don't ask for sex as frequently, but women also decline sex far less often. The average man and the average woman both request and solicit sex with the same frequency. And whenever someone is rejected, far less often do they see it as something worth pressing for (or forcing, hence the reduced rape).

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Additionally, asking an acquaintance for sex is no different from inviting someone to go bowling with you. It won't be seen as too forward, and no one would jump at the question. Discussing sexual tastes would also be a common way to break the ice among strangers, since it's no different from any other interest, and it very often leads to having sex on the spot.

Several friendships begin this way.

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Fapping during lunch or smoke break at work is also common. It might even have a break of its own. Your boss might also have several sex toys on display in her office, and she may choose to walk around in lingerie, as it's not considered "unprofessional." Workplace attire may even be designed with zippers or other differences to facilitate the transition into sex (zippers at the boobs to get them out quicker, a hole at the front--or back--of the skirt).

If you had relations with her, nobody would suspect you of trying to "sleep your way to the top," because sex isn't seen as something special or powerful enough to be a bargaining factor.

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>>6577335
One question OP

What would happen to BDSM?

Since rape is reduced would this fetish also disappear?

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Porn becomes its own genre of movie that you could see at a theater, no different from comedy. As porn movies start to have more story and other movies start to have more sex scenes, the line between porn actor and regular actor disappears. Sex appeal and aptitude just becomes another tool of the acting trade. Actresses may be asked more blunt questions like "How big have you ever taken it up the butt?" but they're also asked far less often. Most of the questions they get pertain to their actual acting skill, much like how you see with male actors now.

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>>6577376

Good question.

I would think there would be still plenty of the sub screaming "Yes, more!" in regards to both the sex and the pain (which doesn't necessarily have any link to rape), but the sub would no longer be acting as though the sex was forced on them.

In short, there's still plenty of metal clamps, rope, and bondage, but there wouldn't be a situation where a safeword would be necessary (they'd just say "stop," and it would mean "stop.")

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Overall, sex becomes just another activity. If a mixed group of friends were watching TV together, and one girl got bored over the commercial break, she might undo her guy friend's pants and start sucking his dick (the show might grab her attention back as soon as it came back on, though). And none of the other friends in the room would bat an eye.

(Or, the girl next to her might look down, scoff, and say, "Wow, how come you never eat me like that?")

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Which brings me to my next point: I also predict a spike in bisexuality, among both sexes.

Looking at various cultures across the world and time periods, it would seem to suggest that the human race is primarily geared toward being attracted to both sexes, but because of cultural discouragement, those that are attracted to the opposite sex sit satisfied with that knowledge and rarely explore the possibility that they may be attracted to the same sex (or at least some of its members).

Here, though, the exploration of one's own sexuality is thoroughly encouraged, and homo-sex is viewed no differently than hetero.

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For a summary of the world as a whole, imagine Ancient Greece, only in a modern setting, with near-total gender equality, unisex bathrooms, and friend groups of mixed genders.

Only even more sexually open.

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P.S.

>couple is having sex on a chair in the library
>clearly audible moans from the girl, plus rhythmic thumping of the chair they're on
>so loud librarian comes to to their table to break them up
"For crying out loud, you two! Can't you both just masturbate quietly?"

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If anyone's got more questions to ask or details or scenarios to add, please do. Wouldn't want the thread to die so quickly.

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As the individual and mental differences between males and females become increasingly redundant, there will be a biological and social trend where a 'middle ground gender' will come to form, like futanari. A social wide futanari citizen trend might appear, making sex between individuals all the more common

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>>6578375
You could say that most of your friends include "benefits." Dating would most often stand as an open relationship, unless decided otherwise; same would probably go for marriage.

The qualities we find physically attractive in others wouldn't change much (they already vary widely from culture to culture, so they're kind of a wild card anyway). We would likely have similar standards of beauty, however we would tend not to judge each other based on our physical attractiveness. For example, we'd be no more likely to ignore the opinion or input of someone less attractive than we would of someone particularly attractive. If you're attractive, then that's all that really means.

Also, complementing a woman on her tits as she crosses the street would be much the same as saying she has a lovely singing voice. (Largely because the complement is genuine.)

(Note: The amount of sex happening hasn't been increased all that much, in net effect.)

>>6578307
While that's a good point in itself, keep in mind that better sex ed also means better awareness and responsibility of STDs. People would get checked routinely and would seek the treatment they need should they catch the less nasty ones, and the untreatable ones would be more readily spotted and would spread less.

>>6577493
You seem to understand why the fantasy is not a reality, but miss the point of having the fantasy.

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>>6578218

Oh, and I'm glad you like the thread. It's my first time starting my own.

>>6578071
That didn't make a lick of sense but okay.

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>>6580874
I wasn't aware I was posting on /pol/

>>6578596
Please describe how edging and orgasm denial fetishes will function in this society, particularly where one willing participant is trying to hold off from cumming while one or more others is trying to make him or her cum incredibly hard?

>>6577354
I doubt the abortion rate would drop, because although there would be a bettere educated public, there will still be idiots who ignore the education, and as sex is no longer taboo there would be more chances for accidental impregnation simply by law of large numbers

>>6581397
It would likely work the same way it does already - nothing about those fetishes is restrictive with regard to location.

>>6581404
there will always be willfully-ignorant idiots, that's unavoidable.

But, if the public as a whole has much better education, those idiots will be at a minimum, unlike our world, where they are widespread due to lack of education.

>>6578071
that is a different fantasy, you may see a slight increase in transsexuals, but I doubt we would evolve a middle ground gender

>>6581408
But, that number is already small, I think that, as I said, by the law of large numbers by the massive increase in the amount of sex going on, the chance of accidental impregnation (e.g. birth control failed, condom splits etc) the abortion rate would go either unchanged, or will go up

>>6581425
I respectfully disagree.

As I said, this theoretical world would be much more widespread in terms of education, contraceptive and STD-prevention access, and so on. You're extrapolating based on our world with more sex, not that world.

It's not at all implausible or even unlikely that distribution of long-term and reversible birth-control methods such as hormonal implants, IUD's, and temporary sterilization (which actually exists now, google "RISUG"), would be incredibly commonplace.

Odds are, barring some rather unlikely situations, most pregnancies don't occur until the parents want them to occur. And even if they do, termination procedures would be easily accessible for such emergencies.

>>6581431
>people talking about a fetishy thing in a single thread, with some pictures

>THE BOARD IS GOING DOWN THE SHITTER FUCK THIS PLACE

You might be retarded

>>6581439
I'm extrapolating based on a world with more sex and similar birth control, as there would be little motivation for better birth control as the current efficiency of about 99% is considered good enough, also, most failures with birth control is the user application, tearing packaging wrong, accidentally pulling it too hard to get it on, these are things that cannot be taught away, they are user error, and there will always be user error

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>Mod deleting text porn on a porn board

>>6577335
Well you know what would happen?

Basically nothing, you'd get a few people doing it more publically but that's all.

>>6581448
you overlooked my remarks about wider-accessibility of long-term methods. there's more to contraceptives than pills and condoms.

>>6581456
but they are the most common and affordable

>>6581459
In our world, yes. Largely due to the stigmas about sexuality and reluctance by most women to investigate long-term methods due to belief they will be seen as oversexed for doing so.

Such stigmas would not occur in this imagined sex-acceptant society.

Kind of like Brave New World, but more extreme.

>>6581465
no, largely due to ease of manufacturing

>>6581479
Many long-term methods are just as easily made. IUD's for example, are essentially just copper wire coated with a special plastic that irritates the uterine lining and prevents embryonic implantation.

But, since many folks think "long term contraceptive use" = "she's having lots of sex" = "she's a wanton slut", many women avoid long-term methods in exchange for less-effective immediate/short-term contraceptives that have greater risk of failure due to misuse or error.

>>6577335
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>>6577371
>>6577390

I wonder how nudism is viewed, and in fact the idea of general body-acceptance is approached, in this world?

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> Mods remove posts without images
> mods remove posts complaining about the removal

It's like pottery

>>6581973

How long until the mods nut up and remove /d/ in and of itself? We all know that's what it's building up to.


Been nice to know you all, /d/eviant anons.

>>6577335
I read all of your posts, OP.

Do you treat this discussion in a fantastic manner or actually try to convey this is a realistic form of development?

Because there is one factor which just keeps your vision from happening. Attraction.
Most real people are average looking, not idealized artworks.
More and more people become overweight.

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>>6581468
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Good night, neato fetish thread

May a circlejerk of shitty mods fap you to your rest

>>6583126
Source?

And what about toys?

>>6583135
you know, you can reverse image search you lazy bum

>>6577360
>and nothing that women have to reserve themselves from.
I hate to be the one to break this to you, but its you they don't want to have sex with. They put on that act so you will assume they act that way with everybody, thus your feelings wont be hurt.

>>6583367
nothing helpful comes up nigger

>>6583126
Found it
http://g.e-hentai.org/s/0b70a5348d/875197-1

It would probably be close to how we view massaging in public today if sex was casualized.

/pol/ tier posting should really be grounds for a permanent ban

>>6583375
Literally the first link from google let me read the whole thing.

>>6582083
It's undeniable that it's achievable only in fantasy, but it's enjoyable to consider the plausibility of it.
That said, I think you misunderstand the point of the fantasy if you think attraction is what prevents it from happening. The idea isn't to have /more sex everywhere/, it's more of roughly the same amount of sex, just anywhere.

Same for you fellas, >>6581425 >>6581404. Interesting discussion regarding birth control and stigma, but keep in mind there wouldn't likely be a massive increase in sex. As it becomes as publicly acceptable as any other activity, it becomes just as desirable as well.

>>6581504
I'm hesitant to say that "people see your sexual appeal as irrelevant to your merit or character" equates to complete "body acceptance," in the sense that many people would have a preference, and there's nothing saying some people's bodies might seem just plain unsightly.
That said, I think it'd be a toss-up between clothing being completely optional or it being considered polite to cover up your junk until it was time to use it, considering not everyone is going to find what you have appealing. (What comes to mind is my lesbian friend who finds dicks unsightly and gross. But maybe her outlook would have turned out differently given this setting?)

>>6583358
A high school girl hands in her test and heads back to her desk, as class is not over yet. She pulls from her pocket a device with a cord, easily mistaken for an iPod. She presses a button to activate the vibrator in her pants. This is how she spends the remainder of he period.

>>6577360

>less rape in a world where sex is publicly acceptable

Right answer, wrong reasons. Rape isn't about sex, it's about asserting power over another, woman or man, showing that they're helpless to stop someone from forcing sex upon them. Since sex in this world is so common and public and 'eh, why not?', the consequent effect of rape as a power play is also reduced.

>>6585086
>Knowing what rape is "about"

>>6585086
Interesting point. I suspect it could be for a combination of both reasons.

>>6577360
rape has a lot of motivations but one of them is power. Not all, but many rapist want their victims to say no. Consensual sex is not as exciting to them.

Sadly, removing inhibitions about nudity/sex would not stop rape.

>>6577335
>What if sex were publicly acceptable?

Then it would become dull and mundabe.

>>6585342
sex is like pizza, even bad, it's still pretty good.

>>6577999
What about prison?

>>6586184
Unisex, don't drop the soap

Unless you're into that

While I love sex as socially acceptable and generally expected fantasies, they're ultimately ruined in reality. In fantasy, you could have completely casual sex anywhere with attractive people, but even if this was the norm in reality, most people are pretty ugly.

Reddit knows about this idea. Pics and video of sex like it doesn't even matter.

https://www.reddit.com/r/freeuse

this thread is still up? nice

>>6586436
hopefully for a bit longer... bump

>>6586409

I did try to distinguish this concept from "freeuse" because in this fantasy, sex is not obligatory, and consent should still be given in each instance.

>>6586357
That's your complaint? The idea of the thread was to appreciate the impact of a particular aspect of sex and society, and you seem to be focusing on some other element entirely. And I think the fantasy is ruined in reality for several more complicated reasons than that.

>>6585308
Would it stop rape outright? No, it wouldn't. Though quite likely sex would not seem as viable an avenue to achieve that power over another. For various reasons, I still say we could expect a significant decline.

>>6577335
>what if sex was publicly acceptable
Can you please be stupid somewhere else? Sex is publicly acceptable, and it always has been to some degree, as its how people reproduce. I know what you mean; which is what if it was acceptable to fuck in public, but its a really dumb way to phrase the question

Really it would only be a small cultural difference, relatively speaking. Instead of seeing a couple kissing, youd see them fucking. Thered probably be more talk about abortions and socialized healthcare, but thats pretty much how it is already. Really, shit would be pretty much the same

I don't think it could be acceptable EVERYWHERE. Call me a nitpick, but some places (planes, subways, full elevators) would probably get you dirty looks if you indulged, simply due to tight quarters and the ick-factor. I can't see buses and other public transport ever happening, simply due to the sheer number of people (and germs) that go through them.

Not to mention the annoyance of having some girl's foot in your face because her boyfriend wanted a quickie.

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>>6588339
Meh, people eat on buses and in subways. They aren't supposed to do it for sanitation reasons, but it happens. Swallowing food is a more dangerously exposing oneself to bacteria than rubbing a dick. Usually other people don't give a shit when they see some slob taking down a sandwich just about anywhere. OP seems to be asking what if public sex were as accepted as eating?

>>6588420
I didn't mean hand or blowjobs, though those still make a mess and probably would be frowned upon for making the floor slippery.

The key phrase is 'frowned upon'. Just like how someone who's dropping pieces of their sub all over is going to get some looks. People still do it, but there's always inconsiderate idiots.

>>6581450
Found it! https://hitomi.la/reader/90967.html#1

>>6577335
I'd be having 2-3 times what I am now.

So none...

So let me get this straight...everything would be better if sex was accepted as something normal, like a sport or some common activity.
How bad it is that thanks to the human egoism it will be near impossible for that to happen.
I mean by the moment that REALLY happens it will be meaningless and all of us that wanted that to happen in our time of life will be long since death, except you become something like the bicentennial man and cheat death.
The only way for that to happen is by practically become senseless and shameless.