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https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/09/15/proponents-firing-aubrey-sitterson-troll/
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>>95362168
Copypaste that shit nigga.
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>>95362168
>Giving Bleedingcool clicks
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Stop shilling your shit Capn. Back to your coughing marine.
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>In this case, it’s not just a personal beef with Sitterson over politics driving the conversation, but a widespread and long running harassment campaign conducted by trolls and targeting any comics pro deemed part of the “SJW” menace. The definition of “SJW” used here by this movement is very broad and encompasses more creators than you might think. But at the same time, it does apparently allow an exception for employing the oft-attributed “SJW” tactic of trying to get people fired from their job over politics — so long as the politics in question are liberal, not conservative, free speech be damned.

>Certainly not the only actor, but one of the most prominent examples of this campaign is the Diversity & Comics YouTube page, who posted a video titled “G.I. Joe Writer Aubrey Sitterson Decides Who Can Mourn 9/11” that brought a lot of new attention to Sitterson’s tweets, from, as Johnston reported, “thousands of people who never saw his original message or had previously engaged with Aubrey in any way, many even declaring that they didn’t read the GI Joe comic.” Prior to this, IDW was defending Sitterson in emails. Afterward, Hasbro got involved, and IDW released a statement distancing themselves from Sitterson and implying disciplinary action is on the way.

He may lose his job over it. But Sitterson is only the latest in a long line of creators targeted by this group.
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https://unvis.it/bleedingcool.com/2017/09/15/proponents-firing-aubrey-sitterson-troll
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>>95362296
>Another pro we’ve seen clashing a lot with the D&C Twitter account recently Kwanza Osajyefo. “After me roasting him about 12 or 15 times a day for about four months, he finally blocked me,” D&C said of its ongoing daily trolling of Osajyefo in a video titled “Firing G.I. Joe Writer Aubrey Sitterson Will Help Heal Comics.” “SJW Marvel Generations – Carl Manvers Has The Worst Art I ever Saw In a Marvel Comic” is the title of another video, and transphobia a running theme of the account, which calls any form of gender variance “mental illness.”

>Another video targets Ron Marz: “SJW Comics Pros Like Ron Marz Actively Refuse To Listen To The Customers.” “Ms. Marvel Is SJW Propaganda On Almost Every Page,” another proclaims. “Motor Crush Is SJW Trash For Post-Humans,” says one more, while an earlier video attacks that same creative team, titled “The Ballad of Batgirl — How 2 SJW Writers Turned A Fan Favorite Radioactive.”

>Magdalene Visaggio has been targeted multiple times. G. Willow Wilson. Gail Simone. Kurt Busiek. Mark Waid. Tamra Bonvillain. Brian Bendis. Ta-Nehisi Coates. Nick Spencer. The creative teams behind any book deemed part of a loosely defined “SJW” agenda are fair game. Kieron Gillen‘s Doctor Aphra is brought up repeatedly. America writer Gabby Rivera is a frequent target. And of course, the most famous example is Heather Antos and the other women from the #MakeMineMilkshake event, probably featured more than any other topic on the channel.

>That covers only a quick glance through the most recent videos and tweets, and we almost certainly missed some creators targeted by this group. D&C’s Twitter account, and other similarly minded ones, are used to directly attack those it considers enemies with on a daily basis, until they get blocked, at which point they ask why everyone is being so sensitive..
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>>95362296
Good, they need someone calling them out on their shit.

What Sitterson said was grounds enough for a firing.
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When the fuck did Aubrey Stitterson start writing comics? That fuck ws a piece of shit that pissed off WWE Games fans simply by existing.
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>>95362358
>“After me roasting him about 12 or 15 times a day for about four months, he finally blocked me,” D&C said of its ongoing daily trolling
Does this guy have a life?
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>>95362358
>transphobia a running theme of the account, which calls any form of gender variance “mental illness.”

It legally is a mental illness, if it wasn't then it wouldn't be covered under healthcare. That's why Trans people don't lobby against it being medically called a mental illness.
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This Sitterson thing is interesting in that it's a great conflation of legitimate objections to stuff, alt-right trolling, far left asspain and conservative values, all at once.

>The guy who writes the fucking GI Joe comic book of all books is an avowed socialist who deliberately antagonized right-wing fans by gatekeeping 9/11

Even fucking Larry Hama got rustled by Aubrey being an ass.
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>>95362392
No, he's a shitty failed writer who wasn't even good enough for Marvel.
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>>95362426
http://inamerica.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/27/being-transgender-no-longer-a-mental-disorder-in-diagnostic-manual/
> December 27th, 2012
>But gender dysphoria was left as a diagnosis to ensure that a transgender person could still access health care if needed. Hormone treatment would be one example. Another would be counseling for those who need help dealing with their emotions.
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>>95362541
>Even fucking Larry Hama got rustled by Aubrey being an ass.
it must take a lot to piss off someone who suffered through being a minority working at marvel in the 70's/80's. Hama has pretty thick skin.
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No, that was in 2006. And then again like, last year.
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>>95362296
>Sitterson is only the latest in a long line of creators targeted by this group.
WWE fan here, Sitterson's been a fuckhead for years, he's not the type of person that should be employed in anything where he has to speak with or interface with a community.
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>>95362568
The word 'disorder' was dropped to remove the stigma while it is still a disorder that needs medical treatment, the treatment being transitioning.
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>>95362568
Just because they don't call it a mental illness because it hurts snowflakes doesn't mean it isn't one.

It gets treated the exact same as it was treated before. They just changed the name.
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REMOVE E-CELEB SHITTERS
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>>95362610
Encouraging people to permanently alter themselves like that just because they don't feel like they "belong" in there current gender just because swapping around genders is trendy is and awful way to handle a mental disorder. You don't lobotomize people with ADD you find less drastic and permanent ways to treat it.
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>>95362387
Shit that's why I know the name
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>>95362793
>You don't lobotomize people with ADD you find less drastic and permanent ways to treat it.

No, they tell them to identify as trans african americans.
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>>95362392
>Does this guy have a life?
D&C has a full-time job, 3 or 4 kids, thousands of fans of his channel, and a stable income. What do you have?

>in before "D&C pls go" or some other version
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>>95362168
>By pretending to be outraged over Sitterson’s tweets to manipulate Hasbro and IDW into firing Sitterson, these trolls are being more disrespectful about a national tragedy than anything Sitterson tweeted.

Is Rich like a personal friend of this guy or something? BleedingCool has been deflecting for him from the beginning of this nonsense.
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>>95362610
>the treatment being transitioning.
You don't treat a person with psychotic breaks by pretending their delusions are real. That actually causes their condition to worsen. The same goes for mentally unstable people who "feel" they're the wrong gender.
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>>95362296
>Get people fired all the time for not being as liberal as you are
>Someone tries to use the same weapons against you and get you fired for being too left from them
Sorry if I don't feel bad for these people, they deserve it.
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>>95362909
Rich is a friend to any leftist that shares his ideas and actively antagonizes centrists and right-wingers.
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>>95362969
On the one hand, it's gratifying to see their weapon get turned around on them, but on the other hand every time it happens it becomes more commonplace which is the exact opposite of what should ideally happen.
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>>95363064
Not to mention, they think it justifies it when they do it afterwards. And any attempt of pointing it out is deflected because the other did it too.
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>>95363064
If they didn't want this fight, they shouldn't have started it.
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I really like D&C but Capn Cummings has always been lame as fuck
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>>95363064
i belive in free speech, i also belive in an eye for an eye
These people deserve it, if the ones doing it to them go overboard they will deserve it aswell
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>>95363132
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>>95362820
Yeah.

Remember all the times he'd sperg out about bugs and how people were playing the game wrong?
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>>95363093
you cant retroactively justify abuse, get the fuck out with that mental gymnastics
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>>95362374

not only that, but i have seen similar comments from others in the industry, especially from marvel. People like gabby "oiste" rivera bragging about wanting to beat up whitey. This should come as a splash of cold water that they should cut this antagonistic shit out, that also goes for the likes of capn and D&C.
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I don't feel especially compelled to go on a crusade against the fuckwits infesting the comic book industry, i'd rather they fester in their squalor like they've been doing until they become necrotic and vestigial and fade away

what irritates me is that Sutterson can't be fucked to even bother apologizing for what is an abjectly terrible, offensive thing to say. Like the biggest problem i have with these people is that they literally have NO shame. He doesn't feel guilty about this shit he just wants to avoid any consequences of his actions, and the fuckfaces that comprise the industry want to coddle him and prop him up

like just apologize dude, fuck's sake. Piece of shit
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>>95363141
i watched a few of his videos, and can't specifically remember which one it was, but he was reading a comic, saw a thing, made a VERY vauge connection to a leftist ideology (really reaching) and looked up as his camera and said "You thought you could get that past me, that i wouldn't notice, well, you'd have to get up pretty early in the morning to outsmart me :^) " and smirked and then i tabbed out and labeled his channel not interested so it never appeared again.
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>>95362276
heheheh
cummings
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>>95362781
Cartman please go
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>>95363375
They're all pretty clickbaity, they title something attention grabbing that is a biggest reach around than Dhalsim in a gay gangbang in a Hoboken prison and pretend that's the point of the whole of the video as opposed to a very minor aside.

There's a host of better content creators that don't get as many views (JustSomeGuy, Micah Curtis, so on). But they bother trying to make a point and not just have an attention grabbing headline that is flimsy justified so I guess clickbaiting is the way to go.

Also pretty funny to see Cummings go full retard on stuff like trying to argue with Gillen (who definitely goes his Tumblr vein when he feels like it) but when they say "I didn't mean it like that" instead of bringing the point around he went "YOU DID! CUUUUUUCKKKK!"

How about not giving these block happy faggots a case?
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>>95363375
He's fuckin childish :/
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>>95362392
>>95362558
>>95362906
What they explicitly made sure not to mention was that in that specific case, D&C and the creator were shitposting each other.
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>>95362906
How many of those kids does he see?
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through D&C, I heard about Chip Zedarsky (sp) drawing live a picture of Hawkeye and then adding long hair and saying "LOL, you thought it was old man hawkeye, troll u! it was grill hawkeye all along lolololol" which was a dick move
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>>95363141
>D&C: Women shouldn't write the Punisher because I was in the military.

>Cummings: This Star Wars comic stars a woman. SJWWWWWWWWWW
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>>95363628
His muslim daughter did commentary with him on two videos.

When the pros found out that his family is more diverse than anything they've ever written they pretty much dropped trying to paint him as a racist and now going after his apparent transphobia(?)
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>>95363668
Honestly they shouldn't as a rule and most probably aren't interested in Frank.
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>>95363141
D&C is lame as fuck for shitting on Prieststroke despite not even reading any of it before that issue or at least reading up on what happened prior.
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>>95362168
fuck off Rich
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>>95362906
>Muslim wife and daughter

I'd rather stay a single virgin desu.
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>>95362296
>Diversity & Comics
can he please just fuck off and die already
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>>95363742
Why?
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D&C: "pointless five minute digression about how I was in the military* Purse puppy OMG sorandom roasting shekels cough

There. You've now experienced all 400 of his videos.
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>>95363742
/co/mblr is tsundere for D&C, it's not hard to see why.
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>>95363758
he's terrible and doesn't read comics
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>>95363768
>actively posts reviews that explicitly show him literally reading comic books
>No anon look at me, look at me, say it with me: He doesn't read comics.
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>>95363768
But most of his videos are about him reading the comic and reviewing them...

I don't understand how you came to that conclusion...
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>>95363668
I don't know about Cummings because I didn't listen to his grating voice as much but D&C is so traditionalist he's like one of those manuals for how to keep your wife in control from the 50s.

Saying Kitty should marry Piotr and have kids and stop being a hero because women folk amirite?

I don't care if he likes comics or not. SJWs like comics. Neither of these extremes are healthy. Especially not for creativity.
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>>95362392
He's trying to become a youtuber, so even if he did have a life, he is so unsatisfied by it that he is getting mad in front of a camera for validation by like minded people.
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Why does /co/ get so pissy about comics youtube?
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>>95363799
>SJWs like comics.
You'd think that if they really did it would sell more.
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>>95363819
it's this channel, specifically

because he's a cunt
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>>95363819
Because instead of getting better it continues to suck.
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>>95363786
>>95363789
He had a Deathstroke review where he blatantly said he didn't read anything prior and then also got mad at Adeline not being smiley/being masculine and at Terra or Tanya for having small breasts.

He's a strange guy.
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>>95363826
What are the /co/-approved youtube channels then?
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>>95362296
>but a widespread and long running harassment campaign conducted by trolls
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>>95363844
There are none.
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>>95363840
I've never seen a guy so triggered by itty bitty titties.
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>>95363840
Issues are stand alone stories are they not?

Besides, he's actually been roasted on this and conceded that what he did wasn't the smartest thing to do. So D&C actually agrees with you.
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>Wake up
>7 new jewtube notifications
>oh boy, did 8 bit guy get to part 2 of his commodore vids? Has RLM made a new video?
>they're all D&C

ugh. Actually i'm joking, i don't have notifications turned on for him nor am i subbed but he still floods my related videos.
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>>95363844
None.

Comic reviewers are awful and many of them are straight up annoying like that vaping guy and D&C.
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>>95363840
>where he blatantly said he didn't read anything prior
Does that discredit the review? Does that discredit the fact that he still read that specific comic?
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>>95363882
You can list his channel as not interested, m8
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>>95363875
Isn't Deathstroke in the middle of
an ongoing arc?
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>>95363875
Deathstroke is set up where there has been a couple standalone issues, but it's largely one giant interconnected story with arcs.

He reviewed the first issue of Defiance IIRC and honestly you need at least from the beginning of the Twilight storyline to understand everything (if not since the very first issue) because that's where Joey's angst comes from and it's where Tanya first shows up.
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>>95363064
>hurr durr

No, if they realize that they can also get fired for their beliefs eventually there will be some rule like "no one talks politics, no one gets fired for their personal beliefs" and everyone can regain some measure of sanity

As long as one side can persecute the other we're going to have a shitshow. These things need to boil over so that people can get their shit together and we can go back to having a functional society instead of mccarthyist witchhunts (inb4 mccarthy did nothing wrong posts)
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>>95363895
Yes, because some of the things he complained about or were confused about are answered or explained in the previous issues.
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>yet another attempt to make some kinda retarded gamergate shit but for comics, this time by an OP giving clicks to bleeding cool
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>>95363928
>>95363932
An issue is a story in a story arc. That's the critique.

But again, D&C has actively agreed with you saying it was not the smartest thing to do, and understands the critique he got for it.
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>>95362571
They lumped Larry Hama in with the "MAGA white supremacist" lie BC and MarySure have been trying to run with. Fucking asian liberal service vet who hates Trump is now a "Trump Supporter and Nazi". The fuck is wrong with these people?
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>>95363955
Maybe the issue should have had a better recap then :^).
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>>95363864

fucking seriously.

>*finger lands on female character's chest* Brest pecks, more lesbian propaganda.....
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>>95363959
and by giving publicity to the trash heap of D&C
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>>95363919

i can't because i am tsundere for him.
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>>95363628
From what we see so far, 2 out of 3-4. His muslim daughter and his 15 year old son that says shit like "you just got meme'd on"
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>>95363969
Or he could do what reviewers are supposed to do and read the comic.
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>>95363840
>>95363864
>hates DFC

execute him
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>>95363985
More like DADDY and Comics

Gimme some capn cummies
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>>95363969
Maybe he should've paid more attention or read the previous issues instead.
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>>95363963
idk asians are pretty white I think they can be nazis too
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>>95364026
>asian veteran drumpf-detesting nazis

We live in strange times
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>>95364026
Theybjust think the uniforms ar snazzy
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>>95363963
>That’s not to say there aren’t people who are genuinely turned off by Sitterson’s 9/11 tweets, without an ulterior motivation. For instance, Larry Hama, who created basically everything we love about G.I. Joe, writes one of our all-time favorite comics in G.I. Joe: Real American Hero, and is by all accounts a wonderful person, didn’t like the tweets and said so.

This is only mention of Hama in either article, dumbass.
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>>95363963
>The fuck is wrong with these people?

Brainwashing. And its fun when they shoot themselves in the foot.
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>>95363864
Maybe he was a fan of Ravager's Big Titty Terra!

No, no one was a fan of Ravagers
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>>95364047
>This is only mention of Hama in either article, dumbass.
Sitterson's supporters have been attacking Hama on twitter and facebook, jackass
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>>95364085
i think he's mostly a fan of every girl having big boobies, even somebody as young as lian and if they don't then it's sjw poopaganda
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>>95363895

It's like reviewing a random episode of Lost or Farscape in the middle of a season and overarching plot that required you to start from the begining. Or rating a movie 2 stars because you started watching in the middle and didnt know what the fuck was going on but said the movie was confusing.

It makes you look lazy and damages your credibility, which any critic understands unless his agenda is more important than actually reviewing. If that's the case, then you're a shit critic no one should trust.
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>>95364097
I think it's time to ban twitter.
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it was pretty funny when D&C audibly cringed during the re-read of the america comic.

>"be my greatness partner yo!"
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>>95364115
But he said a female character didn't have big titties so he understands my struggles it's so hard to read comics when you're soft
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>>95363864
I don't think it's so much the small tits as the combination of masculine wide shoulders, no waist and hips allowed for like a lot of Marvel's female heroes. I think it's kinda hard not to notice.

He does get super weird about it sometimes though.
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>>95364144

Then edge to some big titty raven porn or something before starting.
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>>95363764
>Reductionism

Just kill yourself already, faggot. You've clearly been alive too long.
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>>95363824
Or some buy the same comics we do and recognize a shitty comic even if it does cater to their lesbian fetishism. This argument is stupid. There are people that bitch about comics but don't read them but this blanket dismissal of people as readers doesn't help anything. There are people that read comics with the sole purpose of publicly bitching about them for pageviews.
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>>95364097
No, they haven't.
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>>95364085
Terra was actually more curvy in the latest issue
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>>95364260
You're right. I forgot childless weirdo.
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>>95364240

on a related note, i really liked her design in Justice League VS Teen Titans.
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>>95363919
It doesn't work. Time after time, one of his videos will pop up in my recommends consistently and I will tell it to fuck off and it continues to come back.

Youtube isn't nearly as smart as it thinks it is. Now it won't stop recommending Cummings.
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>>95364291

>Carol Manvers
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>>95364085
I wonder if it's possible to ever get artists to be consistent amongst each other.
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>>95363185
Telling someone their comic sucks isn't abuse.
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>>95364341
Neither is blocking someone.
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>>95364317

well, at DC, every artist agrees Power Girl has big ones.
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>>95364362
the whole blocking thing really is just alienated possible costumers
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>a bunch of sites writing the same article

oh boy, here we go again

comicbook fans don't have to be your audience...
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Comic book fans are dead.
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>>95364389
Yeah, I'm sure those people telling them how much they hate their comics were just about to start buying them.
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>>95364317
It's impossible. Priest has Rose being mentioned as being half-hmong every single issue because artists immediately forgot that after she was created, and she was drawn as a regular white girl until Rebirth (where still still mostly looks white)
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>>95363132
This. I don't care for D&C's videos and guys like him, but at least he's telling normies that Marvel Comics is fucked from the inside.
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>>95364421
She technically was a regular white girl in new 52 because she was retconned into being Adeline's daughter before Priest retconned her back into being Lillian's daughter.
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>>95363692
But Cloonan's Punisher has been good and she clearly has a thing for big burly men
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>>95363844
Strip Panel Naked
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>>95364486
You are right, I completely forgot about everything that happened with the Slade family in n52, mostly because it was terrible. Even in Ravagers she mostly just whined about Fairchild betraying her friendship.
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>>95363875
Why are you shilling so hard from him you cocksucker?
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>>95363844
There's a really great one, it's called Reading Things For Yourself and Forming Your Own Opinions. I think it's part of the Quit Being an Autistic Fuck network.
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>>95364552
D&C shills his channel here all the time because he's always desperate for more viewers.
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>>95364504
Yeah her run is great. People with this opinion >>95363692
Are just the other side of the sjw coin and give those fucks fuel.
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>>95364556
This. The one thing i don't like about them is the fact that they literally read the comics out loud to you in order to review them. The comics industry wouldn't be so bad right now if they didn't read good comics from front to back.
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>>95362296
>Hasbro got involved
So that one anon who said he went to Hascon and was told they were getting fed up with IDW's shit was right?
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D&C has taught me something. Being an asshole to assholes doesn't make you a hero, it just makes you another asshole.
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>>95364381
But the measure of big has changed. She's gone from average to massive. From a regular leotard to an uncomfortable looking wedgie inducing one.

Characters go from long hair to short hair back to long in issues. Idie from Generation Hope's hair has change every artist since she appeared.

Let's not even get to artists that can't draw teens so every 15 year old turns into a 28 year old porn star. It's fine for some characters, but not for all of them.
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>>95364623
Cummings is more hostile than D&C has ever been. Did the suspension in the OP elude you?
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>>95364476
No he's not. He's making them look like victims, because frankly they are. Antos posting a pic of her drinking a milkshake has NOTHING to do with comics but he consistently attacks people on twitter the same way journos attack Trump. He wants attention and Nerd journalists want a fight to report on. They feed each other and neither should be excused.

>>95364514

Yeah this guy is great especially if you're into making comics.
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>>95364720
To be fair I don't know who the fuck Cummings even is.
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>>95364644
Teens are a problem. There was some "outrage" about New 52 Teen Titans Cassie having gigantic perfectly spherical breasts. She certainly was not petite pre-new52, but they were pretty damn big (and fake looking) for a 15 year old.
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>>95364746
Cummings is the guy with awkward pauses for half of his videos. D&C is the guy who won't stop talking, drop his spaghetti almost every waking second, throw in some mentions of his being at the army and possibly some crazy claims like "I'm undoxable".
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>>95364746
good
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>>95362168
Who
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>>95364858
some guy who keeps shilling his channel here i think
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Why is it only entertainment media companies like comics and vidya that let their employees shit on customers over twitter?

How come the Whataburger twitter isn't flooded with ruminations on the inherent evil of whites, or replies to republicans that they will shit on every burger they order?

Where are the vaccuum companies posting that they aren't for cis males?
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>>95364925
Comics are buoyed by speculation and controversy, other companies are beholden to actual physical products people don't just pirate
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>>95364914
translated: he was /ourguy/ until he became popular
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>>95364727
Antos and her milkshake got two fucking crude replies out of hundreds, they just blew shit way the fuck out of proportion, like a toddler screaming bloody murder because they got poked
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>>95364959
I wish people wouldn't buy into the blatant clickbait that is controversial comics/cartoons. For fuck's sack nuPPG was barely talked about on here until one of the writers decided to ship himself and then they put in a black PPG. It's like the ultimate bait, no faggot here can compete
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>>95364987
>For fuck's sack nuPPG was barely talked about on here
Uhhh you sure about that
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>>95365011
It was talked about when it first came out, died down for awhile, flared up with the pedo stuff, died down again, and resurfaced with Bliss. It'll die down again after that special airs.
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>>95365011
Ok it was talked about, but it didn't have like 3-5 threads about it. Maybe it's just a hot topic and it'll die down
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>>95364925
>Why is it only entertainment media companies like comics and vidya that let their employees shit on customers over twitter?

Honey, no. They do it all the time. You've never seem screencaps of Wendys being salty. Or some bumpkin being mad a company used gays to advertise saying they'll never shop there again and the company saying "Bye Felicia."

Why do you seem to expect that anyone down to assistant assistant editors have to take abuse on their personal twitter just because some dudebro sometimes buys random comics to "review." Should they have to abandon their social media as soon as they get a job?
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>>95363844
/co/ subscribes to anonymity, but they secretly follow Capt Cummings and D&C.

I like Just Some Guy, personally. It's a smaller channel.
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>>95363844
None
Take youtube shit to /trash/
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>>95365111
>Should they have to abandon their social media as soon as they get a job?

Quite frankly, yes. Social media is a cancer that everyone needs to stop feeding.
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>>95362781
When those e-celebs remove themselves from comics.
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>>95365115
The term is "tsundere". If /co/ really didn't give a shit about comics youtube we wouldn't be having this thread
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my one gripe with D&C is how much he cares about chick heroes having large tits, otherwise I agree with almost all his points.

Small tits are where it's at.
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D&C constantly praises garbage to be nice though whenever I check out his videos.
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>>95363959
Nice try, Marvel
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>>95364975
>Antos and her milkshake got two fucking crude replies out of hundreds,
Can you prove that? Most of them have been deleted and most of the replies since then that are positive are because of the drama.

>they just blew shit way the fuck out of proportion, like a toddler screaming bloody murder because they got poked

Saying you don't belong in your job because you're a woman isn't nothing. She has a right to find it obnoxious. You guys fed right into it. Of course they used it to spin a story. They know that most people have their backs on this shit but you just keep on trolling then getting mad that they get laden with praise and not you. You'd think gamergate would teach people a lesson but no. Keep on being unreasonable dicks and being surprised that the media is against you.
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>>95365191
Yeah, tsundere is a good way to describe /co/.

Except for the tumblrite infestation since they're notoriously SJW, but I doubt they give a damn about comics anyway.
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>>95365206
Not knocking small tits, but the downside is there's nothing to motorboat. I'm gay, but I'd still motorboat the shit out of some big titties.

For me Nicki Minaj is the Mecca of titties.
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>>95363064
Fuck those kinds of people that try to get their co-workers or superiors fire over politishit nonsense. This is why I don't open up about my political views when asked and why I don't bother making any kind of relationship in my workplace past small-talk: some hidden SJW might be looking for trouble and hoping to take someone's livelihood, simply because they know that person isn't politically correct enough.

My cousin was recently terminated from the company he worked for almost 3 years because they found out about his views about marriage. They assumed he was against gay marriage, because he stated his opposition against state sanctioned marriage in his entirety. Not only was he accused of homophobia, but also for not being against polygamous marriage, which is apparently also incompatible with their corporate values.
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>>95364623
D&C is mellow as hell, man. You want hostile, check out Nerkish.

It's fuckin hilarious.
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>>95365339
Let's not kid ourselves, /co/, is like every other board on 4Chan; nothing but shitposters and keyboard warriors.
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>>95365373
Big fan of Nerkish and D&C. I don't agree with either all the time, but they provide a service and product I enjoy.
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>>95365206
We should praise some artistic body diversity, it's awful when everyone looks the same, like Deodato's Barbie tracing models.
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Conservashits are fuckbags, and the only thing they do all day is troll and harass creators all day. They deserve to get permabanned or beaten to an inch of their life. Fuck the alt right.
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>>95365473
Should have had the filename be drumpf for maximum bait.
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>>95365489
The only people who use drumpf are his supporters who co-opted it like they did the trump transformers film
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>>95365473
Here's a (you) edgelord. Now go listen to some Blood on the Dance Floor while reading Crossed.
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>>95365509
Which is what you are, so it would make sense.
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>>95365509
To be fair even if you try to represent someone as a bad guy the human brain just instinctively fucking loves mechas.
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>>95362610
So if my body dysphoria dictates that I loath the legs I was born with and I demand to receive surgery to remove them, doctors should just agree that my decision-making abilities are from a sound and rational position because otherwise if I don't get my way, I'll lock myself in a car full of dry ice for 6 hours to freeze off my limbs?
http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/Health/story?id=1806125

Body dysphoria is a serious illness, and the treatment it requires is the same treatment you'd give to any other disability.
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wow, must be a slow day on /pol/ for all you alt right virgin pussy faggots to come over to our board. get lost, losers, you're not welcome ANYWHERE.
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>>95364611
IDW, which is crawling with death kult SJW types, were going to go 100% defend AS. They truly thought they'd get away with it, that they could bully people like they did with what they did to MASK and that the GI Joe fan sites/community would be forced to bend over and be raped via threats of smearing them as racist/homophobic.


They completely underestimated the fan sites basically not being the typical bitches they bully and harass. AS had been a royal asshole to the various fan communities and sites, and the fandom has been long seething with general hatred towards the SJW death kult perversion of all things in comics/gaming/animation and at IDW in general. AS's tweets about 9-11 was the straw that broke the camel's back and then some, resulting in the fan sites deciding to sit down and come to the decision to publicly denounce him and IDW, to force Hasbro's hand.


Hasbro is fully aware of the fan websites, which in the case of GI Joe, is their core audience for a line that is basically on life support. By unifying as quickly as they did and going on the offensive as fast as they did, they got Hasbro's attention before the SJW death kult could launch an offensive (which we are now seeing roll out and will continue to roll out).
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>>95365647
>> Continued


The reason Rich is pouring gas on the fire, is that SJW death kult infiltration of IDW is pretty much nearly 90-95%. They fucking run the company and if AS falls, then it's fair game for everyone else in the kult to be purged and their raping of MASK/Jem/Visionaires/Transformers to be purged and treated like the Star Wars Christmas Special. Not only no longer canon, but disowned and pretty unpersoned. And if IDW falls as a whole due to Hasbro telling them to fuck off? Then the first victory can be claimed towards slitting the SJW throat and saving comics from them.
At this point, Hasbro has ordered AS fired but IDW is dragging their feet. Partly because they are claiming that firing him would mean delaying the new replacement series that is taking the spot of the GI Joe book AS wrote, but mainly because AS and his supporters are trying to organize a full-scale.


The only thing keeping the walk-out from being carried out, is that AS and his cronies are demanding the Transformers writers/artists join in as far as threatening to quit on the spot, if IDW caves and fires AS for Hasbro. The TF writers/artists themselves are stalling; they find AS to be an asshole, someone who is going to wreck things for everyone, or because they know Hasbro will tell IDW to start hiring scabs if the death kult artists and writers all quit in protest of AS being fired. And a certain TF writer who will go nameless, are already on thin ice with Hasbro as far as them looking for any excuse to get rid of his book and scatter his cast of characters among the other TF books.
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>>95365206
I'm fine with it.

My gripe is he harps on way too much about "childless weirdos".
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>>95364611
Picking a fight with the fanbase repeatedly while sales tank each month isn't exactly popular to corporate. Joe issue #1 was 12K+ while they're barely holding 5k now at issue 5/6/7.
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>>95365206
When female characters don't have breasts as in they look like they had them surgically removed then he is right
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>Rich Johnston AND D&C
Jesus, one thread about the two biggest shills on /co/. Now this is cancer.
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>>95365743
Who looks like that besides Carol Danvers?
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>>95365743
I'm not saying they shouldn't have tits at all, just every girl being DD sized is unrealistic, a few A cups don't hurt anyone
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>>95365743
It's not even when they look like their breasts were removed. It's when female characters are drawn as men in lipstick. Part of the appeal of many female characters is their idealized body. If you want normal men to be excited by a woman, making her sexy is a perfect place to start.
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>>95365647
>AS had been a royal asshole to the various fan communities and sites
This really needs to be looked at more in these stories. It's not a new thing. He was doing it when he was employed by THQ to shill WWE games.

I don't really care about SJW/alt-right/whatever shitflinging on any and all sides in my comics. Sitterson's just an asshole, that's the main problem that needs to be addressed here.
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>>95365901
No one's gonna buy a comic book just because the main heroine gets their dick up
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>>95362296
>aubrey acts like an asshole and says that non-new yorkers don't have the right to feel sad about 9/11 and calls anyone who disagrees alt-right homophobes
>actual 9/11 victims call him out on it
>bleedingcuck defends the asshole despite his asshole behavior
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>>95365947
You'd be surprised. Supergirl last month jumped 7K copies (which is like 33%) because it had an Artgem variant.
Gwenpool lost 4K this month, because last month had an Emma Frost cover.
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>>95365947
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>>95365687
This.

Hasbro bet big on the shared universe scheme and made the self-destructive move to give IDW, by in large, free reign to make it work.

Also, while Hasbro no longer considers the property an A-List one, it's still considered one by the media and the casuals that the death kult pretend to represent. They desperately want AS gone so they can keep Hasbro dealing with the mainstream media picking up on the story. Especially since Transformers and the Transformers live action movies, benefit greatly from the US military's generous patronage in terms of technical support and equipment donations. If AS's scandal doesn't go away? They might lose that relationship, at which point the shit will really really hit the fan.
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>>95362296
At this point, you could rape and kill children and Bleedingcool will virtue signal you of your a Marxist SJW.
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>>95362392
He has a wife, kids and job
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>Be D&C
>Walk into comic shop
>Buy 10 random comics off the wall
>Go back to car
>Flip through book,
>Turn on phone camera
>"ITS YAH BOI ZACH"
>Ramble for 20 minutes being sure to bring up SJWs at least twice
>"Anyway I hate this comic because 1 woman does not have huge tits"
>Rips comic
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>>95365923
>This really needs to be looked at more in these stories
BC and Mary Sue aren't going to put effort into tearing down one of their own SJWs.
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>>95365979
Then i'm shocked, 4 bucks is a lot of money for 22 pages, people should be smarter
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>>95362906
He could cure cancer and have a 12 inch cock, and he'll still be an embarrassing fuckhead for doing this shit.
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>>95363170
Underrated post I just gave you Reddit gold
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>>95366044
Don't forget that Zenoscope, a company that specializes in cheesecake covers and females in skimpy outfits, has a major female reader base, such that it is.
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>>95364063
I'd read a Twin Peaks comic.
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>>95364294
That's not Terra that's a piece of pizza
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>>95366044
I agree, and here are the numbers so I'm not just talking out of my ass.

07/17 Supergirl #11 21,319
08/17 Supergirl #12 27,104

I was wrong about the size of the boost. It was a start of a new arc about the Legion of Superheroes, but some of the boost was definitely from the variant.

Marvel did a full month of "Mary Jane" variants a few months ago
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>>95365947
Do you even remember being a teenager?
Girls with big tits help sales. This is a fact.
Not every character has to be a DD, but it sure as hell doesn't hurt.
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>>95365947
I'll always find solace in the fact I will never be as wrong as this guy's post right here.
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>mfw this seems like the last chance /co/ will have to back away from being /co/mblr ever again.

I believe in you guys.
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>>95365947
How new to comics are you
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>>95366125
I bought Gen 13, Vampirella, Lady Death, WildCATs, and Silver Sable based on rockin tits alone
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>>95366023
There's a lot of reviews where he buys thinking it'll be shit then praises it a lot
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>>95364097
Pics or GTFO
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>>95366043
Like I said, BC and their ilk are white knighting AS because if he falls, IDW falls.

IDW right now is the SJW version of Jonestown. Pretty much every property is controlled by the SJW death kult save for a few hold-outs (the Pony books, Mairghread Scott, Hama).

If AS's punished and fired, then Hasbro will start cracking down moreso and start putting together the fact that the SJW garbage infecting their properties is why they sell for shit, at which point the SJW death kult will be evicted from IDW en mass via firings. Or worse, IDW stripped of the license, leaving the death kult with NOTHING but a company with zero books people want to buy, meaning IDW would die like Dreamwave or Devil's Due when they lost their Hasbro licenses.
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>>95366155
Nothing's gonna happen, it's a war of attriction.

See the shitfest with gaming and how outlets will regurgitate gamergate now and then, how it never ended, and how it's always convenient if someone has a book related to it coming out soon.

These guys hold the institutional power and most of the platforms, no matter where people may vote with their dollars.
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>>95366114
I believed you, it's just so jarring to me. I'm sure part of (not all) the sales could be due to simply "variants", people eat up variant covers.

>>95366125
I always liked smaller boobs
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>>95366095
So would I.

Carnivale really needs a comics continuation too. I remember there was some talk about it when it got cancelled, but nothing ever happened.
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>>95366157
been reading since I was 7, I just never bought or even considered buying a comic based on female characters appearance. I guess I kinda just assumed everyone else was the same
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>>95363844
Comic youtubers are the biggest cancer we deal with. People watch youtubers and read wiki. And all of a sudden they want to act like an they're an authority on comic books.
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>>95364392
What sites?

Links?


I'm ready for round 2 and for the core customer base of a medium to be completely alienated from its source of entertainment.
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>>95366155
Not gonna happen, /co/mblr is becoming more of a boogieman to tell to redditors and newfags.

We bitch at low-effort progressive bullshit, hate the current sjw leaning comic have. But yet faggots like you still believe that /co/mblr is real. That being said, I think C&D is mental and is a shit youtuber.
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>>95366246
/co/ only pretends Gen 13 is good because of titties
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>>95366323
>But yet faggots like you still believe that /co/mblr is real.
Just look at the "4CHAN HATES ME" D&C made, the only comments that get any traction say "4chan hates you because it's an SJW inside job" and "there were people posting Gwenpool artwork

HEATER ANTHOS SHILLS"

(regardless of the fact it's a fucking Gwenpool Milkshake Crew image with a MAGA hat)
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>>95366323
I think he's more together than Capn Cummings. Cummings just gets angry and screechy over the smallest shit. D&C usually keeps a humorous tone, though of late he's been getting more steamed up.

I don't like where comics are going with the dumb politics either, but it is just a pastime, and if it stops being fun I'll find something else to do. Cutting back on my pull has led to some more money in my pocket.
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>>95366246
Comics are a visual medium. The appearance of characters is just as important as the writing. Superheros in general are a power fantasy, showing idealized versions of both men and women.
Big tits are attractive to most heterosexual men, and a quite a few women. It's a proven strategy in advertising, tv and movies. Why wouldn't comics use it as well?
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>>95366323

I think /co/mblr's a thing because of the Steven Universe and Homestuck General threads. They contain the type of people /co/ hates yet make up a sizable amount to give the impression that they are the majority of /co/.
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That Diversity and Comics guy can be right about things but he should maybe chill down on raging at those milkshake crew cunts and focus on the real big bad of Marvel that's been more responsible for making it shit(Ike,Quesada, Alonso)
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I'm subscribed to D&C but his content is pretty repetitive. His points are pretty valid but putting out 3-5 videos a day on the same shit is tiring.
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>>95366365
I think 9/11 thing tested his nerves
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>>95366402

Speaking of which, I will never not find it funny that Marvel's being ruined by both SJWs AND a big Trump supporter.
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>>95364392
That's not exactly the message.

It's going to be "GI Joe is right wing propaganda and Hasbro needs to get with the year 2017 and kill it dead".

And if they can kill GI Joe? Then they will move on to killing Friendship Is Magic, which not only routinely goes out of it's way to shit on social justice warriors and trannies and feminists, but which has such a large conservative/alt-right fan base, that the feminazi crowd STILL are pissy that Hasbro/the show's writers chose the brony crowd over the SJW crowd when the show launched.
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>>95366448
In theory, that should be the biggest proof that people on all sides of the political spectrum are retards.
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>>95366402
>he should maybe chill down on raging at those milkshake crew cunts and focus on the real big bad of Marvel that's been more responsible for making it shit(Ike,Quesada, Alonso)

Because his audience doesn't whats really causing all of marvel's problems. They have it in their head that its marvel hiring SJW writers and only that. Not the fact they've burnt bridges with both writers and artist, leaving them to hiring anyone at this point. Never giving writers a chance to write shit with out spending an issue that ties into what ever fucking event is going on. Constantly making events that pit heroes against each other claiming nothing will be the same. and so on.
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>>95366472
>Then they will move on to killing Friendship Is Magic, which not only routinely goes out of it's way to shit on social justice warriors and trannies and feminists

wut
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>>95366552
Should listen to his proposals of how to 'fix' the industry ("Marvel needs to outsource things again to Image which also needs to go back to churning 90's content, because that was a fun meritocracy [ignoring all the incestuous editors-become-writers of the time], and also DC needs to reign in Johns" [does this guy even know how far up in the food chain Johns goes now?])
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>>95362568
>paying a doctor $12k to hibachi your genitals
>not a disorder
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>>95366663
John is the fucking CCO, who the fuck is going to reign in on him.
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>>95366686
Especially since Rebirth is his baby, he talked with practically every creative team about their storylines, and the relaunch/branding was successful lol
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>>95366738
It's okay, people will listen because "more people watch his videos than buy Hulk" (because videos that go up for free and things on sale are the exact same).

It's this kind of surface level bullshit that makes these videos pretty drab content, and the fact they aim for 40k tops on average just paint a rather sad picture of what a similar shitstorm caused in 2014 with GG (videos'd hit upwards of 50k from guys that became big deals now in about a third of the time).
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>>95366627
Friendship Is Magic has a SJW Pony villain, a politically incorrect mentally retarded Pony who was the show's breakout supporting cast member, an episode where one of the male characters crossdressed and made a huge fucking asshole out of himself, and in general treating the female fanbase secondary to the male fanbase.
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>>95366992
It won't make me give a flying fuck about ponies, but good on them I suppose.
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>>95366788
The differences in sizes between the gaming industry and the comics industry is rather huge.

The gaming industry is the biggest money making entertainment industry in the world. Comics is not that big.

The fact that a video creator can attract 40k people to watch his videos in an industry that consists of only like 1/2 million people is actually quite impressive. That's ~ 20% of the entire market watching a guy shit on a hulk comic.If 20% of the gaming industries costumers rose up and where this vocal that would be like up in the millions of people.
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>>95364504
>>95364581
it's the worst punisher run ever to such a degree that no other run is even in contention for that title
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>>95364767
You never seen teens with big tits? They aren't rare.
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>>95362168
>>95362296

Oh look, they're crying "harassment" again

Harassment meaning "disagreeing with a leftoid on twitter", lmao.
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>>95362426
No it's not /pol/
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>>95366049
he's right though
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>>95365647
>>95365662
IDW has gone full sjw since last year to such an extreme degree that they need to be shut down.
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>>95366992
There's a reason why ponies never became a massive tumblr thing despite it being anti gender role. The fandom may be autistic but its nowhere near as bad as SUfags or undertale
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>>95368320
People with depression are mentally ill, no stigma, but see it as a problem to overcome

Same thing with gender dysphoria. Only difference is, by enabling their dysphoria you are basically enabling a mentally unstable person with a severe mental condition.

If it's cruel to think that enabling mentally ill people. Then call me an alt-righter all you want. These people need counseling, they need mental care. People with gender dysphoria are victims, just like people with down-syndrome and we should help them instead of enabling them. There is a reason why their suicide

There's a fucking reason why there are so many suicide attempts, it's because these people are mentally ill. How could we be so cruel and coddle them when so many of them want to kill themselves.

>41% try to kill themselves at some point in their lives, compared with 4.6% of the general public. The numbers come from a study by the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention and the Williams Institute, which analyzed results from the National Transgender Discrimination Survey.
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>>95365647
>>95365662
Oh look, it's that fake "insider" again.
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I am hard pressed to think of five Big Two comics that genuinely excite me these days. It's not just the obnoxious pandering to people who don't even read their comics, it's the price of the material vs the experience. $4 for something that takes ten minutes to read (And that's if I read slow.) isn't value for money. I can buy a paperback mystery or Manga for $10 and spend a couple of hours on that.

If I still want superheroes, I can buy older comics for $1. Yes older superheroes are often childish, but that's also when they actually sold well. Maybe because the genre itself is actually childish. That's why the political dominance of leftist superhero comics has led to such abysmal sales. You can't make genuine social commentary on a subject that is about people in fancy dress doing terrible things to each other. That's why SJW comics don't sell.
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