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>At the start of DC’s Rebirth era, Dick Grayson was finding his feet as Nightwing once more following his run as a secret agent for Spyral. Now, over a year in, the character is fully settled in his adopted home of Blüdhaven with new friends, new enemies and beginning in December, a new creative team.
>Green Lanterns’ Sam Humphries and Batman Beyond’s Bernard Chang are teaming up for a new arc to prove just why Nightwing is “Untouchable.”

>NIGHTWING #35
>Written by SAM HUMPHRIES
>Art by BERNARD CHANG
>“THE UNTOUCHABLE: HUNTERS!” Nightwing finally feels like he’s got his life in Blüdhaven under control. But the one thing he wasn’t expecting was for a case from his past in Gotham City to rear its head here—a murderer he never set eyes on, but whose unmistakable signature has arrived in his new city! How many people will die before he’s stopped this time? Or worse than that…what if Dick can’t stop him? Incoming creative team Sam Humphries and Bernard Chang kick off a story that will take Nightwing back to his days as Robin and force him to question his future as well!
>On sale DECEMBER 20 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • RATED T
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>>95352685
>At the start of DC’s Rebirth era, Dick Grayson was finding his feet as Nightwing once more following his run as a secret agent for Spyral. Now, over a year in, the character is fully settled in his adopted home of Mediocrity
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>>95352685
Will he nuke Seeley's delevopments while Seeley will nuke his on Green Lanterns?
And what's goign to happen to Batman Beyond? That book survives mainly on Chang and Maiolo's strength.
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lol they switched books. cool
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>>95352799
should have stay male natasha
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>>95352685
If any of the Robins were to fuck/be fucked by a dog, it would probably be Damian.
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>>95352685
According to Humphries the run is called

>NIGHTWING: THE UNTOUCHABLE
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>>95352685
>SAM HUMPHRIES
How does he keep getting work?
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>>95352855
Choice of Titus or Krypto. Depending on which book it happens in.
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>>95352799
If you thought Seeley used a lot of narration boxes have fun with Dogfucker
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>>95352892
Ace The Bat-Hound is also a thing again.
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At least it isn't Higgins. Nightwing's had bad writers but that level of blandness was stunning.
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>>95352856
I guess he won't get raped then.
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And you all kept saying that he was guaranteed to take over JSA or Legion
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>>95352807
The CBR interview confirms he's not axing the supporting cast or location.

Humphries GLs gave me the faith to pick this up after the creative change.
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>>95352893
I enjoyed most of Seeley's run. The first Bludhaven was dragged down by the art, To is super boring and the coloring was awful, but everything else has been fun
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>>95352933
It's not called Unfuckable
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>>95352685
>Gratuitous ass shot.
Based DC.
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>>95352685
Dick is asking for it on that cover
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>>95352991
How is he going to get fucked without getting touched? Is Deadman going to appear?
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Welp, looks like Nightiwng goes back to being irrelevant. He was on that path anyway with the forced Bludhaven stories, but at least Seeley did what he could for the character despite being told by DC to use Bludhaven and was the last connection to the Grayson series.
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>>95352888
Cause when he joined DC he had editors to wrangle him in
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Fuck, Humphries Marvel work was so shit. Some of the worst stuff I've read in the last few years. I'd prefer an unknown take over honestly.
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I'm sure it'll be fine.

With all the creative swaps it seems like pretty much every book will have some filler until the DClock time skip.
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>>95353005
Did he ever got raped by a guy?
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>>95353057
Avengers AI was decent. Except for the parrot Allah part.
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>>95353008
>Injustice crossover
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>>95353080
By a woman, yes, but Ennis never got his hands on him, no.
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>>95353091
Uncanny X-Force, Star-Lord, and Ultimates were steaming garbage, especially UFX.
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>>95353080
Thats the other Robin
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>>95353108
>not being raped by a guy
What is this shit?
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>>95353132
Weirdworld and Planet Hulk were quite good.
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>>95353135
I still think people are projecting rape fantasies onto Jason.
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>>95353182
No, Winick did try and make him a child prostitute for some reason
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>>95353182
>people
You mean Judd Winick.
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With Seeley gone the globetrotting and Grayson stuff is probably gone. 100% Bludhaven and Bludhaven characters now probably...
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>>95352974
>To

>super boring

You like Javi "My art looks like a two year old got hold of my lines and stretched them all out to look super blobby" Fernandez over To's clean lines and incredibly appealing faces?
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>>95352799
They had to put him back in Bludhaven because his idiot fans bitched about it for so long, and don't want to see the character be anything more than a Batman-lite in an irrelevant city.
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>>95352685
>the ass shot
Nightwing deserves a mediocre writer like Humphries.
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>>95352974
>thinking Bludhaven's problem was the art
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>>95353224
No, he didn't. I saw the page you people use to prove your sick fantasy and Jason only said that he and Mia are the same because they both homeless kids who tried to survive in the streets by doing things they aren't proud of. She sold her body, he stole from others.
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>>95352685
REEEEE give Chang a good book. He should've been on New Super-Man when Bogdanovic left.
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>>95353321
Yes. Javi can tell a story. To can do commissions
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>>95353488
Fernandez may have solid layouts, but his characters are ugly as all get out.
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>>95353347
>D-list villians
>Meta nostalgia set-up

I found those to be funny. To's art was just sad
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>>95353321
>>95353488
I rememebr being hyped about Nightwing, because of the art he did on B&R Eternal. And then upon reading first issues of Nightwing I realised that all the mexican names sound the same to me, and all the time I was thinking of Alvaro Martinez. Javi Fernandez on the other hand is a shit artist with a sloppy style.
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>>95353544
To may have shitty layouts, but his characters are cute as hell

that's
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>>95353553
Tbf, artists suddenly become worse when they start working on Nightwing for some reason.
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>>95353553
Can you post some of this "sad" art? I bought that arc in floppies only for To's art, and I don't regret it.

>>95353566
Yeah - Martinez is a god. Fernandez is just so choppy - and his hatchwork is hack quality in the most recent issue.

>>95353572
His characters are the cutest. But where are his layouts so bad? Carmen Carnero, on the most recent issue of Detective, had pretty crummy layouts (though that might also be scripting, since Sebela is pretty amateur hour at scripting).
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>>95353168
Pic related.
>>95353376
You're forgetting the page where Batman's hologram also heavily implied it.
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>>95353643
It only said that Jason suffered from a big trauma (he might have witnessed a murder..etc) which isn't hard to believe for a kid who lived in the streets of the worst city in dcu. It said nothing about what you are implying.
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>>95353553
>forgettable villains and side characters
>generic stories that take zero risks
Yeah it was super interesting.
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They released Dec solicits already?
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>>95353623
Nightwing tends to bring out the worst in creators. There is a reason why all of Dick's best stories are of him as something else other than Nightwing.
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>>95353782
the new hip thing these days is to first reveal all the new stuff separately and then drop the solicits.
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>>95353748
He referred to it as "a secret." Witnessing a murder isn't anything to keep secret.
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>>95353783
and their still try to make him stuck with it
i keep asking DC why
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>>95352685
you know i never did find out the story behind why he's called dog fucker
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>>95352685
I would have preferred he stay on GLs honestly.
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>>95353843
Jason might have killed someone when he was kid which is why Batman tried to make it a "secret".

Heck, it possibly might have been a reference to the diplomat's son because Batman didn't tell anyone about it.
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>>95353882
>i keep asking DC why
Because his fans are numerous and flip out if his costume goes from Blue to Red. Nevermind if they try to make him change ID or city. Nightwing fans bitched relentlessly about Grayson.
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>>95353905
Because the first story he wrote that got him attention involved fucking dogs.
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>>95353905
He wrote a comic called Our Love Is Real, where dogfucking is the normal sexuality, and the dogfuckers oppress plant- and rockfuckers
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>>95353961
Don't forget finger stripes.
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>>95353905
I think this it was the "Our Love Is Real" story (you can find it on comixology). A story parodying all the sexual civil rights silliness - sadly, it's still pretty relevant today, since it's only gotten crazier.

https://www.comixology.com/Our-Love-is-Real-1/digital-comic/
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>>95353961
Nightwingfags really ruined a good thing for the rest. Fucking characterfags.
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>>95353782
Previews World had a database leak or something, and people found all the solicitations (without issue descriptions) on Monday, then descriptions on tuesday.
The solicitations were supposed to be out next week.

Marvel:
>>95300719
DC:
>>95281597
Darkhorse, Image, IDW, Dynamite:
>>95285543
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>>95352892
And would Jon participate or just watch?
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>>95353135
That wasn't rape, it was paid for.
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In happier news, Christopher Preist is taking over Justice League.
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>>95354022
>DC is planning to do another dumb crossover
Enough of this already.
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>>95354153
what crossover?
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>>95354079
Nightwing didn't pay to be raped, anon.
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>>95354183
DC is planning to do a crossover between Superman, Super Sons and Teen Titans called "SUPER SONS OF TOMORROW".
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>>95352685
>Dick gets two good stories as Batman by two good writers
>he naturally must regress as Bruce is the true Batman and new readers will be confused if he's not
>He gets a mediocre writer that gets destroyed by crossovers
>he gets two good writers and stays out of crossovers
>some Dickfags throw fits about him not being Batman-lite, not being with Babs, and not wearing fignerstripes
>he regresses again and it's clear the writer doesn't want to write the Bludhaven stuff and also more crossovers
>he gets another mediocre writer

See you guys in a few years when DC decides to do something with Dick and he accidentally gets a couple good writers for a couple years.
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>>95354366
>another superman issue getting wasted on Jon
>TT is being involved in THREE crossover in just one year
>another crossover
DC, STOOOOOOOOP
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>>95352685
look his sexy ass.
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>>95354407
TT deserves it
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>>95354407
teen titans has become even a biggwr joke.
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>>95354002
Christ I'd forgotten that retardation. I think you actually just triggered me.
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>>95354407
What, you expect Teen Titans to be good?

Reminder that the Jurgens Teen Titans book was instead almost written by Morrison, but Berganza said "no I want Jurgens".
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>>95354058
Krypto fucks Damian while Damian fucks
Jon, obviously.
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>>95354463
I'm honestly more mad at Superman getting involved in another crossover which is about freaking Jon.
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>>95354472
>Krypto fucks Tim while conner fucks
>Tim, obviously.
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>>95354463
and then Jurgens was fucked by editorial for the entire time
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>>95354233
I said Jason was the prostitute, not Dick.
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>>95354498
Tim can't fuck anyone, anon, he has to stay pure for Gotham.
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>>95354518
In your headcanon maybe (which is really sick, anon), but not in canon.
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>>95354591
Jud Widdick made it canon, anon, not me.
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>>95354617
Unless he literally stated it in canon, then no. It still your sick headcanon.
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>>95352807
>That book survives mainly on Chang and Maiolo's strength.

I dropped that book after two issue specifically because the art was absolutely terrible.
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>>95354617
Stop lying.
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>>95352685
>Green Lanterns’ Sam Humphries and Batman Beyond’s Bernard Chang
I really don't see a problem here, also GLs was great most of the time so far
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>>95354642
>>95354665
Stop samefagging.
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>>95354714
Guess you didn't read an of his Marvel work then.
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Bernard Chang
i like his art.
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>>95354714
>narration boxes covering 90% of the page is a GOOD thing!!!
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>>95354743
>has nothing to say
No, you S-samefag!!!
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>>95353553
>Post-Crisis Superman brought about the Bludhaven status quo.

the true villian of Rebith
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>>95354665
Try reading comics sometime.
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>>95355361
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>>95355374
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>>95355361
>>95355374
Jesus, you Jason fans really grasp at straws. Tell me, anon, do you really think "the bad thing" means prostitution? Is that the bad thing batman always fights with Jason about?
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>>95355361
>>95355374
>>95355412
Follow your advice >>95353376, >>95353934
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>>95355443
"I'm just like you" he says to a person after specifically mentioning that she was a prostitute is grasping at straws?
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>>95355443
Winick purposely made it vague enough so you can interpret it however you wish, that's how you get this stuff through.
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>>95355443
He obviously not Jason fan, anon.
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>>95354748
I did but i wasn't talking about that
But go on, let the butthurt of an issue that isn't out yet spread
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>>95354748
>Guess you didn't read an of his Marvel work then.
>He doesn't know about Humphries Rebirth.
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How the fuck did this turn into a "jason was/was not a child prostitute" thread?
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>>95355443
>Jesus, you Jason fans really grasp at straws.
Why the fuck would you assume that a person claiming that Jason was a child prostitute is a Jason fan?
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>>95355475
He is like her because he was also a homeless kid who done bad things, you dumbass.
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>>95355506
>How the fuck did this turn into a "jason was/was not a child prostitute" thread?
Illiteracy
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>>95355477
He didn't make it "vouge", you are the one who reaching hard to make is something that it's not.
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>>95355561
Winick is definitely the kind of guy who would make Jason a prostitute, but DC is also the kind of company who would never allow any writer to explicitly state that. So all he can do is allude.
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>>95355561
The fact that people are even arguing about this means that it is vague. It's entirely up to your interpretation of the quotes, it's not a simple I'm right and you're wrong situation.
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>>95355361
>>95355374
>>95355412
None of this confirm that he was prostitute.

Try harder, next time.
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>>95355506
Welcome to your first robin thread
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>>95355626
No one arguing about it except you trying to push your headcanon by misinterpreting an obvious statement.
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>>95352685
Why the hell would they ever take Seeley off this book?
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>>95354497
>A dad's life revolve around his child
Did your daddy never love you anon
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>>95355689
Knowing Seeley, he left voluntarily.
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>>95355689
I'm pretty sure that it was it was Seeley who wanted to be off the book.
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What's Seeley going to do then?
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>>95355506
The Priest JL thread turned into a Dick thread for a while. Such is life.
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>>95355752
GLs. They traded.
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>>95355689
It's pretty clear Seeley didn't want to write anything regarding Bludhaven and only did because editorial and those Dickfags that bitched at him during Grayson told him to
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>>95355769
I swear to god if Seeley make Simon and Jess fuck
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>>95355500
>giving a shit about Jessica Cruz and Muslim Lantern
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>>95355475
he also specifically mentioned being from the street. But you decided he meant the prostitution.

>>95355477
just like bobby drake was always gay, that's how you fit that stuff in. Or how Dick and Bruce really were always faggots together. They just couldn't say it in the text.

Fuck you.

>>95355493
I don't see how that's obvious. His fans consistently try to make him latino or fucking gay or anything they can so that he isn't "just a white dude."
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>>95355622
why is his non-specified idea canon and not the consistent canon from all of his other appearances? Is it not the company who choses canon? Or do you actually think head-canon counts?
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>>95355946
>I don't see how that's obvious. His fans consistently try to make him latino or fucking gay or anything they can so that he isn't "just a white dude."
Tumblr literally try push every character into something they aren't. Using them as examples isn't helping your case.
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>>95355946
>>95355976
Back in the 00s Devin Grayson said she believed Dick Grayson is bi, but editorial was adamant in their refusal to ever let her write him as such (because of the spectre of Wertham), so she said she'd try to sneak in as many hints as she possibly could. If you believe her head canon and her authorial intent, he was bi in those stories she wrote, but officially, Dick has always been straight.
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>>95355632
>>95355663
I never said that it was confirmed, I'm saying that it is open to interpretation. This isn't hard to comprehend.
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>>95356047
>If you believe her head canon and her authorial intent

why would you other than because you want the character to be gay/bi?

I'm dead serious. It's not her decision. He wasn't, even during her run, anything but straight. That is fact. Whether she says there are hints, whether there are hints, whether she flat out says "yeah if you read my stories Dick is bi". No matter what that's not correct. And I would say this for any trait.

I'm not trying to attack you, personally, jsut the inference that the author's intent matters. I don't think intent ever matters. I think execution does. if she couldn't do that because she wasn't allowed it doesn't matter what she thought.
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>>95356114
Sure..

>>95354617
>Jud Widdick made it canon
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>>95356114
it isn't though.

we've never seen Harley's penis but I assume she's a guy because Joker is so gay all the time. So since they've never shown her vagina on page I can assume she has a knuckle-sized cock, right? Not just like an extra long clit, like full on mushroom top.
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>>95352685
This is some funny exchange, to be honest. I don't know how it will turns, but I'm honestly looking forward it.
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>>95353623
It's hard to work on a biweekly book.
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>>95353934
Could be, but then, his own behaviour in that very own story could also have to be with his own personal history with rapists, whatever it could be. I've read somewhere that he was especially brutal to that kind of criminals, not only in the dipomat's son story, but I didn't read his run as Robin, so I don't know.

It could be that he witnessed someone close being raped and couldn't do anything, too, because he was still a kid (unlike in that story). It could be even him regretting helping his mother killing herself with drugs. It could be more that being raped himself, I totally agree.
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>>95357243
Jason feel strongly about anyone who hurts women. You have an example of him beating the heck out of a guy for insulting some girl.

If Jason was indeed raped when was kid, then there's no way he agree to go with Batman or even feel at ease with him.
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>>95357424
Good point.
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>>95352685
Why do we call Humphries dog fucker again?
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>>95356047
>>95356389
Man she went fucking hard with the gay/bi shit in Inheritance. Fanfiction tier slash shit
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Are we losing Duck/ Helena goodness?
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>>95359175
It's not until December but Dogfucker's work isn't going to be as good as Seelies so I'm not going to pull it then
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>>95359175
Is he a DickBabs, DickKory or a Dickslut shipper?
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>>95359175
That was probably just Seeley finishing up old Grayson stories that got cut short before leaving the book. I doubt Dick/Helena continue past the next arc or past Seeley's run.
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>>95359413
A damn shame. Back to the 90s forever
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>>95359413

I dont know. I dont think Humphries will throw out all the Grayson stuff
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>>95353331
>had to put
No, they didn't.
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>>95353566
If you like a piece of shit like Alvaro Martinez then I know what the problem is. Fernandez is not house style enough for you.
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>>95360602
If he didn't want to get harassed again then yeah he had to.
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>>95360660
Marvel's been shitting on Spider-man for over a decade now and they still end up topping the month from time to time despite Slott writing. Oh but some people were mean to DC...
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>>95360709
It's not about sales, it's about the writer getting harassed on twitter.

He claimed to have "learned his lesson" and that he wouldn't do it again.
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>>95352888

By being the biggest surprise of Rebirth and writing one of the best comics from it?
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>>95361025

Nightwing fans are terrible
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