Venom, Inc

>>95352659
>not a crossover with Scarlet Spider to boost its sales and keep the 90s as fuck motif
fuck

I am so erect for all the inevitable /co/ tears, after Slott rapes Mania with his writing.

>>95352659
Huh.

All the Superior Foes besides Upgrade.

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>>95352659
>Price steals the Mania symbiote and rechristens himself Maniac

>>95352659
So, Venomverse confirmed for the most inconsequential event in history?

>>95352659
I hope Sasuke kills Mania desu

And here I thought his would be an analogue to Web Warriors.

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>>95352659
>Price steals the Mania symbiote
I can already feel the rage of the coming fanboys.

>>95352659
>Slott
>Stegman
>Costa
The best of the best, dudes and dudettes.

>>95352920
Remember when /co/ used to love Stegman?

>>95352659
>Slott and Costa together

That's bad.

>Lee stealing Andi's symbiote and probably killing her because he's edgy enough to do it

That's worse. I knew Lee would get another symbiote sooner or later, but this is an especially bad way to do it. Well, I'll just skip this crossover since I already gave up on Costa's Venom after the Moon Girl team-up (don't ask me why it took that long).

Ryan Smegma.

>>95352928
...no. When did that happen?

>>95352957
Yost's Scarlet Spider.

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>>95352957
Before his short Inhumans stint, where he got noticeably worse. Then Uncanny Avengers happened and we all know how that ended.

>>95352659
What an odd assortment of characters that cover has.

>>95352928
His art's been fixed since Duggan's Uncanny #2, and completely back to form by Renew Your Vows.

>>95352703
Scarlet Spider is already unofficially canceled.
>>95352994
Uncanny Avengers only had one bad issue, then he went back to his old self. Must have had some sort of injury or emergency.

>>95352659
>Costa
>Slott

Fuckkkkk no

>>Spider event
>no spider gwen
>no miles morales

not that bad honestly

>more fuel to the "slott is planning maximum carnage 2 fuel"

FUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK

>>95352659
>>95352659
Oh wait, another crossover? Thank god Marvel said no events and crossovers after Legacy.

I mean in 2 years ASM vol4 had one crossover crossing several months and one major event, plus this is really after the Venom-verse bullshit?

>>95353020
>Scarlet Spider is already unofficially canceled.
Huh? Was it not in the december solicits?

>>95353020
>Scarlet Spider is already unofficially canceled.
Yeah?

>>95352998
I'm pretty sure that Hammerhead, Killer Shrike, the Superior Foes are all working for Black Cat.

So that just leaves Peter and Flash

>>95353024
>>more fuel to the "slott is planning maximum carnage 2 fuel"
how did this meme even start? is it from one of those I-work-at-Marvel fanfic threads?

>agent venom looses the symbiote to a literal who so Sasuke can rape the development out of it

>now costas OC sasuke edgelord is gonna steal and rape the maniac symbiote to

Whats his fucking problem

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>>95352659
>Everyone gets Symbiotes
>Again

>>95352937
>after the Moon Girl team-up
You know what's really messed up? That was actually the best Moon Girl's ever been outside her book.

>>95353074
He did Clone Saga 2 (3? 4?).

>>95353024
At least you aren't suffering like Nightwing fans. >>95352685

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>>95353159
>he doesn't know

>>95353159
An improved writer and a good artist-colorist combo. Seems good to me.

>>95353187
I have yet to pick up GL after the First Lantern arc.

How is going? People still say is good shit?

>black cat
>silver sable
>mary jane
>Now mania

How many waifus can one man ruin?

>>95352659
>If you’ll remember, Price
No, I don't.

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Well, the only positive so far is that I get Venom drawn by Alex Ross.

Who do you think the blacked out figure is? Agent Venom?
It probably isn't Maniac since they showed him right here >>95353103

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>>95353290
A reminder then

>>95352659
>every new project Bunn gets, he pitches Mania as part of it because he has plans for her and wants to use the character he created
>gets rejected every time
>rejected so she can get the symbiote stolen by Sasuke in a story written by Dan Slott and Mike Costa
>she will either be killed or Lee will keep the symbiote and Andi will never be heard from again
I don't even particularly like Mania but this makes me mad.

>>95353096
He just really loves raping symbiotes.

>>95353319
Carnage

>Sasuke ruins Mania's life
Maniashills on suicide watch

>>95353319
>Spider-Man like "Nooow boys stop fighting!"

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>>95353755
as he should

>>95353319
While I can sort of see it, the solicit for that issue states:
• Spider-Man finds himself between Eddie and a mysterious new figure!
• And Black Cat and her gang find themselves face-to-face with an amped-up villain named Maniac that might just rip those faces right off.

Maybe it's Flash in a new costume, trying to be a hero without the symbiote, and he tries to fight Eddie to get it back?

>>95353319
Watch it be Brock for the upteenth time

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I think this is all my fault.

Back in March I was at a con and I talked to Slott. I told him that since Flash is coming back to New York in the ASM book, that he would have to bring Mania, his more or less adopted daughter since he can't leave her a second time.
I think I might have mentioned her possibly cameoing in ASM or something.

And then it was revealed in 150 that Flash did indeed bring Andi to New York

I'm so sorry you guys.

>>95353046
>>95353052
It was, but it's double shipping. Marvel doesn't doubleship low selling titles unless it wants to get rid of them ASAP, because it hurts sales. A lot of people can justify the expense of picking up Nobody Cares once a month, but not twice. It can only work with the characterfag sales-wales who buy a-listers
>>95353074
Yes, but what leads credence to it is that next year is Maximum Carnage 2's 25th anniversary and Osborn needs a way to be crazy again that isn't science or magic.

>>95352659

Awesome! Love me some more Venom. This is going to be great!

>Dan Slott writing

Nevermind.

>>95353259
It's good, yes. Nothing like an editor to keep the book alive.

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>>95353930
Don't ever do it again, anon.

>>95354227
nice dead meme reddit

>>95352659
>Mania fan keeps demanding Marvel bring back Mania
>Price steals the Mania symbiote

Damn, I feel sorry for the guy.

>>95352659
>Sephiroth McEdgelord Sasuke comes back
>Probably kills Mania too

Well fuck you too Marlel.

>>95352659
Well, looks like Mania is going to die.

>>95352659
>Flash Thompson, another previous Venom host, will also appear in the crossover.
They should just give Flash a new Symbiote.

>>95354487
Maina will be killed and Flash will get her symbiote, Brock will stay Venom for the forseeable future

>>95354533
That's nasty, man. That's as if Punisher decided to wear his daughter's clothes after she was gunned down.

>>95352659
Say, was this week's issue of Venomverse storytimed?

>been hoping for more Mania for forever
>first fucking thing she stars in that's a big focus on her she fucking loses her symbiote already
aaaaaaa
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>95352659
> Lee attacks Mania and steals her symbiote

how the hell does Lee even know about Mania? Mike Costa just keeps finding new ways for us to hate his special OC.

>>95354595
That's nothing like that.

>>95354608
And most likely her life, seeing as how Lee is an edgy piece of shit who will probably kill her as soon as he takes her symbiote.

>>95352753
I wonder if there will be a version of Lee in Venomverse?

Doesn't seem like it.

>>95354424
I don't.

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>WAHHH WHY IS THIS VILLAIN ACTING LIKE A VILLAIN TOWARDS MAI SHITTY OC DONUT STEEL WAIFU WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH
You guys are funny.

>>95353187
So that's the power of editors.

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Hmmm, I'm both excited and anxious to read this. Haven't felt that way about a comic in a long time

>>95354722
imagine if iron man was a new character and one of the first issues that involved him as one of the main characters was him losing his suit.

>>95353866
Eddie fighting himself, that'd be interesting.

>>95355113
Thank god I don't care about Iron Man then

>>95354604
Yes.

>>95354722
More like why is this character I like being depowered at best and killed off at worst so that a character I don't like can stick around?

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>Mike Costa wasn't quietly fired.
Whose dick is this guy sucking. No, seriously, how the fuck does he still have a job?

>>95355113
It's more like if Riri had a story where someone stole her suit.

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>>95355404
Well look, that one anon got his dream of Mania and Robbie hangin out. Too bad Robbie's not in control.

>>95353930
It's not your fault, anon. Blame Slott and Costa for twisting your good-intentioned suggestion.

>>95355413
Characterfags have made the new Venom series a high/decent seller, unfortunately.

>>95355403
Because she's a z-list spinoff of a b-list character that only a few waifufags like?

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>>95355422

>>95353930
No, it's my fault. I used the monkey paw I found.

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>>95355450
Well that was fast. We knew he was coming, but at the start of issue 3?

>>95355498
Legs look too normal. Is this eldritch starspawn cannot-be-killed Carnage, or what?

>>95355413
>>95355445
What made them trust him with Venom? He couldn't even get Web Warriors to last twelve issues.

>>95355517
He lost the eldritch powers at the the end of his last series.

>>95355517
Carnage lost his Chthon upgrades at the end of his series.

>>95355448
Still better than Lee Price.

>>95355422
>Well look, that one anon got his dream of Mania and Robbie hangin out. Too bad Robbie's not in control.
I also wanted to see Mania and Robbie hang out

Throw in Laura and one of Hulk's kids too for a Circle of Four story

>>95355498
Hype.
>>95352659
Not hype.

>>95355498
>>redneck carnage is back

Neat

>>95355450
>>95355498
So wait, why are they all so scared of Carnage? Venom (Eddie) has never been afraid of him and always acted cocky towards his "son", and there are like.....multiple other Venoms with him

Ok even if you wanted to take a symbiote I'm like 99% certain that Mania is the worst symbiote to steal what with the fact that her symbiotes mind is an actual demon.

>>95355627
This. It would chew up Lee's mind and leave him a brain dead husk.

Or so I can only hope.

>In the Alpha issue, Price steals the Mania symbiote and rechristens himself Maniac

Sometimes I feel like Slott intentionally does what he does because he legitimately enjoys all the angry fanboy tears that are shed in his direction at all times.

>>95355807
That much is obvious. Of course, he'll play the victim whenever people give him shit for it.

>>95355847
Someone ought to come along and have all of Slott's OCDNS characters shot in the fucking head.

>>95355627
>>95355650
That would imply that Costa or Slott have ever read anything with Mania in it and would be aware of the symbionts being marked by Mephestio, and I highly doubt they have

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>>95354487

Flash becoming "Agent" Toxin in the wake of Venom going back to Brock would have been perfect. Hell, he'd probably just end up looking like he did during his stint on Ross' Thunderbolts. Too bad Toxin ended up turning into a god and dying or something.

What is it about symbiotes and their hosts that makes them the single most consistently mistreated group of characters in all of comics?

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>>95354682

Based on this promotional image, there is.

>>95356035
They're shit and are only liked by a small, loud and obnoxious as fuck minority of edgelords who cry bitch tears every time a writer rightfully shits on them.

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>Mania losing the symbiote
It's all so very tiring.

>>95355627
>implying slott gives a shit about continuity outside his own books

>>95355498

>redneck Carnage
>again

He's from NEW YORK you dumb shits, not Cousinfuck, Arkansas.

>>95356062
>VenoMJ leaning on Lee's back
Reeee

>>95352659
>Price steals the Mania symbiote and rechristens himself Maniac
OH FUCK YOU COSTA.

>>95355807

Slott is the one who acknowledged that sales for whatever reason increase when readers are angry back when people were shitting themselves over Superior Spider-Man, after all.

>>95356124
He will always be a redneck Anon, it's the new status quo no matter how retarded it was initially

>>95356124
What, New York can't have rednecks?

>>95355448
But nobody likes Lee.

>>95355966
Yeah... This.

>>95352659
>Proce the edgelord steals the Mania symbiote after all this time she's been in limbo waiting for someone to do something with her story

Well I was on the fence about this since Flash is in it and Stegman is on art but story but that just turned the fence into ground zero of a nuke strike

>>95356181
In the rural northern parts, sure, but Cletus was born and raised in Brooklyn. Presumably his father was a redneck who moved there.

>>95356085
>small, loud and obnoxious as fuck minority of edgelords
You realize Venom is one of the best selling titles Marvel currently has, right?

>>95356260

And is one of their most popular characters in general. Venom always generates hype.

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Might as well post the Venom preview while I'm here

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>>95356328

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>>95356372

>>95356372
DON'T MOCK

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>>95356260
It's going down, just like every other marvel title.
It's already at the same amount Volume 2 was with Agent Venom.

>>95356245
Now, hang on real quick, is it possible that rather than being born and raised in Brooklyn, that his family could have moved there when he was a teenager? Long enough to say he's from Brooklyn when people ask. I dont ever remember them stating that he was born there. From there, sure, but not born there. Of course I can totally be wrong about that too

If Slott is edgy enough to try killing the Spider-Friends, Mania's chances at survival just completely plummeted.
Good bye Mania.

>>95356519
The difference being that Cullen Bunn still works with Marvel.

Slott didn't want to piss off Yost by killing Scarlet Spider in Spider-verse, and showed him alive again on purpose. Why would he kill another writer's character here? Cullen Bunn isn't a super small name either, and is writing Venomverse and Deadpool kills the marvel universe again.

aside from this page >>95356328 I liked this preview here, thanks anon, the special on Shocker is bittersweet, while I really like him as a punching bag, I really liked the end of Superior Foes with him in a position of power as the head of the Maggai.

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>>95356801
Yeah, I've always liked Shocker because despite getting made fun of, he's actually decently competent. Shame no one remembers that.

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>>95356842
Nigga had circuitry going through his entire suit at one point and made Spidey his BITCH

>>95356842
I feel like Costa might be setting up a future Venom vs Shocker, at least Costa isn't so casual to believe that Shocker's gauntlets don't blast electricity, might be cool.

>>95356842
I hope he comes back in the MCU with a costume. For the small amount of screentime he got in homecoming, I really liked that portrayal.

>>95352659
Are you guys going to tweet at Slott and Costa? Y'know make your voices heard?

>>95357205
All they'll do is laugh at and block anyone that criticises them.

>>95356566
>Slott didn't want to piss off Yost by killing Scarlet Spider in Spider-verse, and showed him alive again on purpose.

Actaully Slott is a Kainefag apparently. That could have been the reason.

>Cullen Bunn isn't a super small name either, and is writing Venomverse and Deadpool kills the marvel universe again.

Is he as big in the Marvel hierarchy as Slott though? Because Slott feels almost Bendis-tier in Marvel power-level.

Also Bunn seems like a nice guy. Too nice in fact. So if Slott kills off Mania then he may not do anything because he wouldn't want to come off as an asshole.

>>95356842
Wouldn't that, you know, wreck his fleshy hands?

>>95356372
>Shocker is the most incarcerated super villain of all time
Huh.

>>95357296
>So if Slott kills off Mania then he may not do anything because he wouldn't want to come off as an asshole.

I get the feeling that's why DeFalco and Frenz had Mayday accept her father's death rather than just undo that mess.

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>>95357296
Mania seems like a character Bunn really loves though, and he's constantly trying to shove her into things and pitching ideas, or at least cameos. He admitted this himself in a podcast interview.

I don't think he'd be real happy with just another writer just killing off his character.

My bet is that she survives, and helps take it back in the end, possibly with Flash becoming Agent Venom temporarily to fight back the villains, before he gives the symbiote back to Andi.

The whole concept of Venom is so aggressively 90's that I grew a pouch just thinking about it

Can we relegate symbiotes to fetish porn and move on already?

>>95357415
I would prefer Slott does whatever the fuck and the next time Bunn writes Mania he blatantly ignores all Slott did to ruin her and writes her as if this book never happened. Because fuck Slott.

why didnt we ever get an agent venom/mania teamup book? ;-;

>>95357399
Well, if memory serves, Defalco was pissed about that, and even sort of hinted at the spider-verse Mayday not being the real MC2 Mayday, and that there was just another Spider-Girl universe out there that was never involved in Spider-verse. I think he wrote a blog post or something about it.

>>95357478
I remember there being hints of it not being MC2 Mayday so that fans could come to their own conclusions, only for Slott to step in and insist it really was her. Frenz definitely doesn't think highly of Slott, and openly said that he's not on the same level as Stern.

>>95357457
>I want the writer to just ignore the continuity and tell the story he really wants to tell!

Everybody who wonders how Bendis keeps getting work, this is why.

>>95357477
It's a shame that Robbie Thompson's Venom series ended right when Flash came back to Earth and promised to help Andi get rid of her Hell-Mark.

>>95357523

Basically this along with DeFalco/Frenz giving Mayday a better costume. Of course Costa decided not even to use her much in Web Warriors and focused his entire energy on that comic on Gwen.

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>>95352659
To be honest? I don't think I really care anymore. I've been having my interest for not just Marvel but comic books in general wane over the past few months. Venomverse is the first thing I've read in a long time. So seeing this shit happen barely elicits a reaction besides apathy and a little disappointment in Marvel for wasting a character that had potential.

>>95356324
Kids who just learned about Marvel in the past few years are just delusional, same people who used to constantly say X-Men are literally who's

These fags don't know Marvel before the Avengers film hit, because they were probably born in like '94 and just got into comics

>>95357895
The Venom fandom could be best compared to the Joker fandom, they are both the most recognizable villains from two of the most popular heroes of their respected companies, and are one of the only villains to sell merchandise in note worthy quantities.

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Well it was fun while it lasted

>>95356062
>Venom 2099
Neat

I wanna get into symbiote stuff. what was the first apperance of each symbiote/host combination?

>>95358060
I would have thought doc oc stuff would sell like hotcakes

>>95357230
Shit, I'm doing it anyway.

Dan Slott is easily the best writer we've had on Venom since Remender so it has potential. He likes shitting all over the characters and Spidey fans and Peter though so idk

Better than Costa's IQ sapping trash at least

>>95353930
We forgive you, Anon.
Monkey Paws are powerful and dangerous tools

>>95352920
What's wrong with Stegman?

>>95358441
What? Dan Slott is awful. Cullen Bunn and Robbie Thompson are both way better writers.

>>95355448
Mania still has fans, unlike Price.

>>95357415
>inb4 Mania joins his Blue book

Not that I'd mind

>>95356062
>Earth X Mayday

COOL

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>>95352750
>>95352842
>>95352937
>>95353615
>>95354424
>>95354432
>>95354643
>>95356149
>>95356230
What's the matter guys? I thought you wanted all the womyn gone and real men back?

>>95359213
Mania didn't replace anyone though. She was supplementary.

>>95359064
Pffthahaha

I wish that were true, Dan Slott is a prick

>>95359213
a) Mania isn't a legacy character, she didn't replace anyone

b)Le Price is a genuinely fuck awful character

>>95358441
You're awful Slott. Eat shit and die, you fat fuck.

>>95359213
Maybe people don't hate characters on their sex but whether they are an interesting new character. Hmm, who'd have thought?

>>95359354
Just because he looks like Sasuke doesn't make him a bad character.

>>95359414
The fact that he looks like Sasuke doesn't make him a bad character, the fact that he's one-note character playing the dark angle 100% straight is what makes him bad.

>>95359213
It's never been about their sex you dumbass. Mania was a genuinely interesting concept of a teen character rather than the quirky millennial speak characters they keep pushing out and all Marvel did was shelve her for years before doing this dumb shit

>>95359237
>Mania didn't replace anyone though. She was supplementary.
>>95359354
>Mania isn't a legacy character, she didn't replace anyone
Actually she is a legacy. Her symbiote is a clone of Venom, it was bonded to second She-Venom (scientist, nto Eddie's ex) before Eddie ate it.
Besides, you guys really think that matters? You kept loudly complain that you hate women and won't buy books with them, you thought the culling's gonna pass on characters like her? It's the final plague of Egypt and you fuckers forgot to paint the doors!

Maybe he'll get her hell aids

>>95359494
UH OH
Anon, you fugged up

>>95359405
>>95359492
> What we heard was that people didn’t want any more diversity. They didn’t want female characters out there.
David Gabriel
That's what Marvel got from it. They didn't thought they books don't sell because you guys don't like they replaced your faves. They thought they don't sell because you don't want to read about women and minorities. Get the difference?

>>95359494
>You kept loudly complain that you hate women and won't buy books with them
First off, no I didn't
Secondly, I've been a long-time x-fag. Female characters are fine, but female characters that exist simply to occupy a man's place are shit SHIT

>>95359596
They thought vs. what is.
Get the difference, bait-kun?

>>95358060
Venom fans aren't terribly cringey, though. They just make their fetish really obvious.

>>95359597
Again, this is not the message marvel got. This is:
> What we heard was that people didn’t want any more diversity. They didn’t want female characters out there.
> They didn’t want female characters out there.
> What we heard was that people didn’t want any more diversity. They didn’t want female characters
>>95359610
It doesn't matter why you guys were complaining. All that matters, all that is going to affect Marvel's decision is why THEY think you are complaining.

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This should be a glow in the dark cover like Enemy Within.

>>95359494
>Actually she is a legacy. Her symbiote is a clone of Venom
That doesn't make her a Legacy character Anon, she's not inheriting Venom's legacy, she's was a Protegee of Flash, she's no more a legacy character than any of the other symbiotes running around.

>>95358441
>implying Slott's stuff doesn't also sap your IQ

>>95359727
1. The entire joke she technically is a legacy to an obscure character of She-Venom flew over your head, didn't it?
2. Doesn't matter, see rest of my post.

>>95359494
Legacy characters replace people, though. Mania was a new character doing her own thing, not replacing anybody. She's Flash's sidekick.

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>>95359762
There was absolutely no part in that first half of your post to indicate that it was a joke. Why would you string a joke claim along a supposedly serious claim? How do you expect me to take the rest of your post seriously now?

>>95359791
Maybe I'm old-fashioned but back in my days we considered all characters that spin-off from the main guy to be their legacy. Like ,Robin is Batman's legacy even if he doesn't dress like a Bat at the moment.

>>95359859
The joke here is that I actually managed to pull out obscure comics trivia as an argument.

>>95359917
Retard, nobody did this.
They were sidekicks, and part of a character/line's family.

>>95359652
>Marvel's bullshit excuse does not turn out to be true
>The same excuse they had to backpedal incessantly less than 24 hours after they published it
>Let alone the fact Mania never spearheaded an ongoing that this backlash was part of

You get a (You) from me for the tumblr filename on the pire. I can respect someone's effort into baiting.

But that's still all it is.

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>>95360063
Yeah, except every time they put five together in a book they would always be yapping how they're the Legacy of Justice League or X-Men....

>>95359652
>All that matters, all that is going to affect Marvel's decision is why THEY think you are complaining.
So what's your fucking point? That Marvel is retarded and out of touch with their actual consumers? Because I'm pretty sure that's what we were arguing from the start.

>>95360277
That maybe instead of throwing buzzwords about "diversity", "pandering", "tumblr" and "SJWs" you should be telling Marvel it's replacement that pissed you off? This way maybe they'd get the right message.

>>95360318
You're dense if you think people haven't tried their best to make that clear, only to be written off as not liking it because of diversity. That's the entire point of their ""progressive"" marketing, that they can stifle legitimate criticism with accusations of bigotry.

Yes we have shitposters who spam buzzwords, but don't fucking put this on /co/. Plenty of people here are very clear about what they've hated about the diversity push while Marvel has been blatantly plugging their ears and ignoring actual criticism. I mean for fuck's sake one of the writers in question here is fucking Slott.

>>95359917
You're not old-fashioned, you're just stupid.

>>95360489
>You're dense if you think people haven't tried their best to make that clear, only to be written off as not liking it because of diversity.
Guys, I've seen what you were writing. You either did a shitty job or were drowned in screams of /pol/....whom you attracted BECAUSE you didn't do a good job in the first place and even they thought you just hate all those people they happened to hate too.

>>95355568
>>95356192
>>95359166
It doesn't matter if people like him or not, he's the villain of the piece so he has prominence, whereas Mania is a borderline sidekick to a hero who's not even active anymore, it's a wonder that she's survived this long.

>>95356392
So why doesn't he just sell his inventions now?

>>95360743
Ask Ultimate Universe Shocker.

>>95360203
>they would
Source?

>>95360779
What was he like?

>>95356124
Upstate is pretty redneck

>>95360829
a dumb nobody

>>95360910
More inbred hillbilly than redneck.

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>>95359367

What happened to anti-venom?

>>95361751
Reed ground him up and used him as a cure for spider island.

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>>95359057
He did some bad art during uncanny avengers, but he's since returned to good art with Renew your vows

>>95356485
>that his family could have moved there when he was a teenager
Wasn't Carnage in an orphanage since he was little?

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>>95352659
>Dan Slott and Mike Costa
>Mania gets shitcanned while Flash watches
>Lee is brought back and given her symbiote

I have no words to describe this level of disappointment

>>95363174
If it doesn't end with Lee getting bodied and Andrea getting her symbiote back then it'll probably just be universally hated and Marvel will not get why everyone hates it.

>>95352928
>Remember when /co/ used to love Stegman?
we've always loved him, and his art has been fixed

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>>95363232
>Remender/Bunn run ends with Andi having both a symbiote and hell-mark
>Bendis shoves Flash off to space for reasons and completely ignores the arcs going on
>Robbie Thompson picks up the character
>book acknowledges the gap of time that Andi was left all alone in
>she goes batshit possessed by her two powers and it takes Flash to reel her back in
>comic ends with Flash agreeing to help her through the process
>immediately Flash jobs hard (mostly) offscreen and Andi is left to her own devices again
>only comes back to job herself

Why can't they let one of the few decent protege characters grow up

>>95359301
>t. hasn't read any of Bunn-sama

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>>95359494
>you guys really think that matters?
Yes.
>You kept loudly complain that you hate women
No.

>>95363232
She's going to die, and Flash is going to get the symbiote in the end.

Would any of you Shadmen even give a shit about Mania if she wasn't a goth/punk waifu for you to jerk off over

>>95359494
Then maybe they should have given Mania a book or at least a book where she consistently appeared (like a team book).

>>95359596
>>95359652
You left out the other part of the interview, and the retraction
>It was the old things coming back in that time period, three books in particular, Spider-Man Renew Your Vows, that had Spider-Man and Mary Jane married, that worked. The Venom book worked and the Thanos book worked. You can take what you want out of who might be enjoying those three books, but it is definitely a specific type of comic book reader, comic book collector that really liked those three series.
Thanos and Renew your vows aren't even selling that well, so he's talking out of his ass anyway.

and then he went back like a day later to address what he said
> "Discussed candidly by some of the retailers at the summit, we heard that some were not happy with the false abandonment of the core Marvel heroes and, contrary to what some said about characters “not working,” the sticking factor and popularity for a majority of these new titles and characters like Squirrel Girl, Ms. Marvel, The Mighty Thor, Spider-Gwen, Miles Morales, and Moon Girl, continue to prove that our fans and retailers ARE excited about these new heroes. And let me be clear, our new heroes are not going anywhere! We are proud and excited to keep introducing unique characters that reflect new voices and new experiences into the Marvel Universe and pair them with our iconic heroes.

>"We have also been hearing from stores that welcome and champion our new characters and titles and want more! They've invigorated their own customer base and helped them grow their stores because of it. So we're getting both sides of the story and the only upcoming change we're making is to ensure we don't lose focus of our core heroes."

>>95357230
>Meh what's the point?

That's not a good excuse. Make your voices heard dammit. Don't just bitch on here.

>>95357477
Because Marvel doesn't understand their fanbase and what they want.

>>95353866
Actually it will be osborn

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>>95364502

>>95353096
It's pretty obvious Flash will get it

>>95353096
editorial loathes the niche characters with a devoted fanbase because they don't understand their appeal and no matter what they try they never manage to get the new characters they actually want to be popular to attract a loyal fanbase.

>>95364657
Well then she'd just be an angry little boy in a Dimmu Borgir short.

>>95352928
Dude is based and awesome with fans. Gave me art tips once.

>>95364815
Since when has that EVER worked, especially with someone as self-centered and sadistic as Slott? He'll just tell people to wait until the story's been published, then make some snide remark about doing it sooner if he knew that many people cared about Mania afterwards.

>>95363128
Yep, thank you for that, my casual completely forgot

>>95364657
I'd take any girl in a symbiote honestly. She-Venom was hot as fuck

>>95352659

Doesn't Andi go full demon now without the symbiote because of the hellmark? Because I'm pretty sure it's the only thing keeping her sane.

>>95367253
I don't think so, the symbiote is the one that's marked, not andi, if the two are separate I'd have to guess that the mark would go with the symbiote

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>>95367253
>>95367314
In the last two issues of Spaceknight, it was revealed that the hellmark transferred from the Mania symbiote to Andi. They've only temporarily cured her for now.

>>95363128
He was shunted to different homes after his father killed his mother and went to prison, and eventually ended up in an orphanage.

>>95367424
I wanna bet hard money that Costa totally forgets about this.

>>95353388

Wow, how did Marvel find my Venom fanfic from high school?

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Venom - Separation Anxiety 001 (1994) (digital) (Minutemen-Excelsior)
http://www112.zippyshare.com/v/bXsyI4hE/file.html

Venom - Separation Anxiety 002 (1995) (digital) (Minutemen-Excelsior)
http://www112.zippyshare.com/v/D1FTtH5r/file.html

Venom - Separation Anxiety 003 (1995) (digital) (Minutemen-Excelsior)
http://www103.zippyshare.com/v/snPh1jLF/file.html

Venom - Separation Anxiety 004 (1995) (digital) (Minutemen-Excelsior)
http://www112.zippyshare.com/v/8MumlFyG/file.html

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Venom - Nights of Vengeance 001 (1994) (digital) (Minutemen-Excelsior)
http://www84.zippyshare.com/v/pmnXmOxe/file.html

Venom - Nights of Vengeance 002 (1994) (digital) (Minutemen-Excelsior)
http://www84.zippyshare.com/v/W9qoTjJk/file.html

Venom - Nights of Vengeance 003 (1994) (digital) (Minutemen-Excelsior)
http://www84.zippyshare.com/v/1V3v7UcU/file.html

Venom - Nights of Vengeance 004 (1994) (digital) (Minutemen-Excelsior)
http://www84.zippyshare.com/v/H1aH9I9l/file.html

>>95364657
It was her connection with Flash that I liked. It could've been like what Kaine and Aracely had, and will hopefully have again if the current Scarlet Spider series lasts long enough.

>>95353044
>Thank god Marvel said no events and crossovers after Legacy.
>crossovers
They didn't say anything about crossovers

Who fucking cares about Mania? It's just some Bunn's OC in his mediocre run. I don't like Bunn and doesn't have venomgirl fetish. So fuck her

>>95353388
I SAID, NO I DON'T

>>95353930
Based Anon. Can tell Slott about Aracely on the next con

>>95371041
Yeah they specifically said no linewide events. Of course mini-events are still going to happen, it works great for DC.

>>95363038
He had reallyy bad tooth pain while drawing uncanny avengers, and it affected his art

>>95356124
>implying this bird you can change

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>>95371087
Have you seen how much fan art she gets?

It's more than any symbiote character that's not Venom, Agent Venom, Carnage, or Anti-Venom.

>>95352659
Too bad I would never willingly pay a single cent to anything Slott has ever written.

>>95352659
>Mania is kill

No