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>>95346470
>6 artists in one issue
>Issue is only 20 pages
What the actual fuck.

>>95346492
And I thought the ''space lesbians'' was just a meme.

>>95346492
I thought it was created by a gay guy with mutant powers

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>>95346506
>Literally me.

>>95346493
complaints about the art must have them scrambling to find something less hideous. I don't think any penciler cares to try on it though.

I thought Wiccan created this universe also really? The creation story they're going for are 2 cosmic lesbians formed their world? really? Someone read this and gave the okay sign?

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>>95346518
>Planet Fuertona
Are you fucking kidding me?
>>95346492
Also fucking this.
Wasn't Wiccan the one responsible for all this shit?

>>95346493
its like that whole have a room full of monkeys eventually they will write a Shakespeare play or something

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>>95346483
>Puerto Rico national soccer shield
>4 stars
>Puerto Ricos highest ever FIFA ranking, 97th

>>95346520
Everything in Marvel is literal

Is Gabby the only writer who can make every succeeding issue worse than the one before? I mean you'd think she'd hit bottom already. That's a gift right there.

>>95346642
I think the other impressive thing is that not only does she not learn from her mistakes, she continuously makes new ones every issue.

I have to wonder what the raw manuscripts look like before editors get to them.

>>95346642
I can't believe this shit has a 7th issue.

I really wish it were possible to give negative reviews of this series, but anybody on a payroll for this kind of thing is legally obligated to support it because lesbian superhero.

>>95346642
Gabby makes Gillen looks competent in comparison.

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>>95346518
The Spanglish got worse after every issue. What the fuck?

>>95346677
This shit really feels like a lesbian self insert fanfic.

>>95346667

Remember it's continuing in Legacy so it's at least getting 6 more issues.

>>95346728
Thats exactly what it is. Gabby completely disregards every established facet of America as a character and the lore behind her.

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>>95346680
It's mind boggling, I mean you'd think after 7 issues she would have made an issue that isn't worse than the one before but she does. Like in #1 where she puts 2 self inserts IN THE FIRST ISSUE, 1 of her saying AMERICA IS THE BEST HERO and Her being America's literal bff, you'd think it can't get worse than this but then she does the whole "POC villain group aren't evil" mega shit and issue after issue you think no way she can top this but she does without fail. I mean really? Space Lesbian gods?

>>95346682
I have a feeling its because people are calling her out on twitter for not being able to speak the language

>>95346732
What legacy is there to this?

>>95346732
>Legacy
Please tell me that they aren't pairing Chavez with Steve Rogers.

>>95346665
> editors
> marvel

anon...

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>>95346752

At least the new villain is a dominatrix with a golden gun.

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>>95346752
America is loosely a legacy character of Miss America

Marvel Comics - burn it down and salt the earth!

>>95346777
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>the only thing I've seen this character in is Original Sin
America vs Orb/Watcher when?

>>95346493
>>>95346470
>>6 artists in one issue
>>Issue is only 20 pages
>What the actual fuck.


Rumor has it the 'writer' of this turd is a world-class asshole that nobody wants to put up with.

Marvel corporate is panicking as their SJW flagship turns out to be godawful, and are trying to find something that can get salable output out of this trainwreck.

I wonder how much cash they had to dish out for that cover alone?

>>95346777
Wasn't she a villain from Original Sin?

>>95346492

>D.I.Y. Goddess

Good Lord, seriously? The Goddess is called the Do It Yourself Goddess?

Fucking fuckballs.

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>>95346812
>original sin

Well that's why I didn't know about her.

>>95346807
>Rumor has it the 'writer' of this turd is a world-class asshole that nobody wants to put up with.
>Rumor
What did anon mean by this?

>>95346777
If I was Morrison I would be really mad right now.

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>>95346845
She first appeared in Morrison's Marvel Boy mini.

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>>95346845
Original Sin was Nick Fury's Secret Empire in the sense that Marvel shit all over him and Dum Dum Duggan while they were at it.

>>95346923
IIRC, it was just the clumsiest fucking way to get rid of Classic Nick Fury and launch half a dozen characters/storylines.

>>95346493
This is what happens when you hire cover artists for interiors.

Cosmic Lesbos

Who can I write a letter to to make this god aweful abomination of a comic stop existing?

>>95347511
Noone because admitting this is an abomination is admitting that diversity and women don't sell (which they do but they won't admit it's because the writer is shit)

>>95346506
>Whoa... So this is the power of lesbian goddesses... Amazing...

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>>95346492
So now Marvel is letting Gabby retcon the very creation of the Marvel universe itself.

>>95346462
i dont know about you guys but i want to cum on her back

I just want the letter section to see if the border joke got in.

>>95348090

>if the border joke got in

They send those back.

Wait, wait, wait. She's an alien and probably has a different genetic makeup but she's considered to be a latinx because she's brown and talks Spanglish?

>>95348134
Her ancestors are apparently from Planeta Fuertona

>>95346462
I am so angry that this shit made it past 8 issues meanwhile Nova died in its 7th issue.

Did this comic sell better?

>>95348188

Probably. Nova sold badly and even if Sam is Hispanic he doesn't have the same level of diversity that America does.

>>95346470
>wasting 6 artists on a comic that sells less than 10,000 issues a month

>>95347977
I think that is just the shitty planet that Chavez is from in the Gay Dimension.

>>95348188
>Did this comic sell better?

America #6 - 9,548

>>95348290
Nova #7 - 13,456

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>>95347979
Fine taste sir.

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>>95348313
Marvel is driven by their agenda. Chavez displays a greater extreme of showboating for diversity and gets readers more upset and riled up. So of course Chavez gets better treatment than Sam.

Its not enough to simply be Hispanic. You have to be Hispanic, female, and gay too.

>>95346518
god damn that is a terrible name basically named "Strong woman" or more specific it's an adjective used to describe a strong woman. Like naming a planet tough lady it sounds just as stupid in spanish.

>>95346746
she isnt proving anyone wrong so far.

>>95348110
Underrated

>>95346807
Then why not fire Gabby and hire another Hispanic lesbian writer?

>>95346843
Gotta get that pretend-D.I.Y. crowd.

Am I the only one who finds this creation myth to be disturbingly racist, heterophobic, trash?

The fact that Kaplan flat out creates a universe where being gay is a cosmological law is deeply flawed conceptually. It also plays into the most bigoted stereotypes surrounding homosexuality and implies that heterosexuals and homosexuals cannot peacefully coexist.

Naming it the utopian parallel is the icing on the retard cake.

By all accounts America should be utterly horrified at heterosexual interaction.

Or maybe Gabby is just a terrible writer who can't think her way out of an open paper bag.

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>>95346518
What the actual fuck am I reading?
Wiccan died for this?

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>>95348313
>>95348290
I find it extremely depressing that the difference between a decent comic and one of the worst comics ever made is less than four thousand units.

>>95346492
Isn't any creator entity a DIY? Isn't that already implied when you say they created shit out of nothing?

>>95346621
>Let's just add some stars
>they look cool and don't mean anything, right?

>>95346483
>crack your ancestors wide open
wat

>>95348313
>>95348290
Every title has a budget, and based on that they decide how low it can sell before being cancelled.
Nova probably had a higher budget, with better paid writer, artist and editors, so it had to sell more to succeed, while they're probably paying Gabby with tacos to keep this thing going.

>>95346518
>YWN 69 a world into being
seriously though, can you imagine being the editor that had to rubber stamp this shit? Like, you look across the vacant floor to the only other editor left and think to yourself "it couldn't have been passed across that faggots desk?"

>>95346591

I thought Warlock did.

>>95347977

Nah, they didn't read this crap.

>>95348462
>Or maybe Gabby is just a terrible writer who can't think her way out of an open paper bag.

That and she is racist trash.

>>95348134
She literally appropriated "Latin" culture because they were as brown as she is.

>>95346492
Man being the god of DIY must be the sweetest deal ever. The people who worship you never bother you for anything and handle all their shit themselves while you get worship and power just from that.

>>95346518
>Planeta Fuertona
Nuyoricans were a mistake.

>>95346543
It was. He takes after his mother.

>>95348367
Gotta one up Paradise Island somehow. So were getting an even worse thing going.

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I feel bad for the artist being wasted on a book this bad, with sales this terrible.

>>95348425
because she's a SJW who'll throw no end of shit at that kinda "prejudice" Honestly they are trying to run this out like Mockingbird who ended up quitting because "she was too good a writer for comics."

>>95349334
They gave Chelsea Cain more comics work, though. Marvel really loves YA novelists right now, that's who they're hiring.

>>95346462
I would totally get a sex change and go gay for her. Too that unff

>>95346483
Fuck, who is the artist? I like that America

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>>95346518
>mfw seeing the former colonies ruining our great language
i feel legit offended

>>95346483
What the fuck is that horrific creature in the red?

Man, America is like Korra. She has a top tier design but somehow she turns everything around her to shit.

>>95348553
God. Marvel really is being ran by jews, isn't it?

>>95348555
>Implying Marvel has more than one editor left
>Implying that editor even looks at the book.

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>>95346518
They just got this guy to make the first four pages look decent, didn't they?

>>95349656
Yup, gotta try ANYTHING to sell this book at this point. Even using the old trick of only making the preview pages look good (and it's debatable if they even do).

>>95349709
I can't wait until they hold Alex Ross' family as hostages so he can make four pages of an issue and the rest are made by Gabby in mspaint.

>>95349734
Y'know that's honestly just likely enough to happen that i'm going to screencap your post just so we can say that /co/ called it.

>>95346518
Except we all know the space lesbian's lord and savior is the one know as Wiccan, a gay guy who decided that if he was going to make a universe of hummonculi they should all be lesbian women, instead of using his godlike powers to making a beefcake universe like any normal gay guy would

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>>95346518

So since I can't understand key parts of this comic, I guess it isn't for me? Did they decide to just exclude the non latino(a?) audience for this comic?

I've always been okay with the idea that "not every comic is for everyone" I guess, but I don't know any of the people I know who read comics this is actually for.

>>95346518
PORN WHEN?

>>95346746
>I have a feeling its because people are calling her out on twitter for not being able to speak the language

Would someone mind giving me some examples? I'm not trying to say that's not happening, I just don't know enough about the language to really understand what she's fucking up.

Between the cringe inducing dialogue, superfluous Spanglish, enourmous plot holes, lack of anything approaching a believable villain, and flawed premises galore I am legit surprised anyone has time to complain about the shitty SJW agenda.

If I were a marvel artist I wouldn't touch this with a ten foot pole.

>>95346462
Her name is America?

Just who the fuck this character is?

>>95349990
>Just who the fuck is this character
She was kinda cool before the ongoing series. Like Squirrel Girl. This book sucks though.

>>95346492
>Berraca
Hihi sounds like verraca, female swine

>>95350100
not only female swine, horny female swine it's the correct translation

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>>95346462
>wearing a midriff
Isnt that a sexist peice of clothing by their standards because it sexaulizes women and sexualization of any kind is wrong to them?

>>95349981

Looking at her twatter, she tried to tear It a new asshole. But it's obvious she never read the book (even though she claimed to have), so she's one of those people who want to be LOUD & FIERCE, but who never have any idea what they're talking about.

Doesn't matter, however, as long as she's got her echo chamber.

>>95349892
I don't have them on me but people who can actually read and write spanish are tweeting at her about butchering the language. Someone on /co/ should have the screens

>>95350176
There are no rules. Just assume you are always wrong.

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>>95348485
He's not dead, he managed to escape the sinking Marvel ship and is doing great stuff far away from all this shit.

>>95350176
>>95350243 is correct, there's no rules. Revealing outfits are empowering but if they're being leered at by men they're sexualized.

>>95346470
>Anne Wu
>Ming Doyle
Such a shame DC doesn't have enough projects for all their homegrowns. Because of this they get wasted on shit like America.

>>95346518

as a Spanish speaker this fills me embarrasment for/from her, I find it hard to read because I need to recover before every page.

>>95350285
Fuck that shit m8

>>95350390
i find it hard to read because it does this garbage of using spanish words for no reason. original Jaime blue beetle had the balls to make a whole issue in spanish.

>>95349334
That why they should replace her with another hispanic lesbian writer so she can't use that excuse. Better yet, find a trans one too so Gabby looks like a bigot for getting mad.

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>>95346518
>Planet Fuertona

I'm going to continue to remind everyone that Gabby is just Woke Carlos Mencia until the comparison catches on.

>>95349764
This comic isn't meant to be understood. It's meant to be laughed at.

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And Marvel wonders why their comic sales are tanking.

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>>95346506
>Literally me
¡Convierte en mi, chonga culia!

>>95346518
Now I'm 90% sure this is just a Korra AU.

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New World hispanics were a mistake.

I mean, the art's good.

>>95348669
But why do the space aliens also speak Spanish.

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>>95346462
I can't believe it actually lasted a year.
Jesus christ.

>>95350599
You just wait. The book has FOUR artists for just one issue.

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>>95348541

I second that 'wat' and raise you a 'da fuck'.

>>95350629
*Will last a year. Because is not over yet, but we know there will be an issue 10 and won't be the last.

>>95346506
It's good art, but the positioning in that final panel. Berraca looks like she's about to punch Sanar right in the jaw.

>>95350605
They don't, they speak Spanglish. Has any character in America spoken a single full sentence in Spanish so far?

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>Trees were killed to print this shit

>>95349892
I believe she even admitted her mom didn't teach her and her brother Spanish bc 'she was afraid they would have accents'

>>95346518
Of course the entire planet was Puerto Rico lesbians who had Mac's power straight away, from the very first moment, of course. Why would you ever need it to be more complicated and interesting than that?

>>95350694
You can spend two hours on Duolingo and you'll speak better Spanish than most of Latin America though so she really has no excuse.

>>95346746
>Space Lesbian gods?
Nothing wrong with lesbian space gods in a well-written comic m8.

>>95346483
Why is korra dress like a football player?
why is Mohana grandma dress like a wrestler?

>>95350694
Where was she raised tho? I mean California has a big latin population plus do you really believe that fucking story?

>>95350714
That's kind of the problem, isn't it? I'd be all for reading this shit if it wasn't written by a hack. And preferably always drawn by this artist.

America seems to out of character so far. She's making inane comments like usual, but she hasn't insulted people or asked anyone to follow her on Beam Chat. Like, she feels different here. Like she's trying to be quirky, instead of bitchy.

>>95348462
>By all accounts America should be utterly horrified at heterosexual interaction.
To be fair, would she really be horrified? If didn't even know what a man was, she wouldn't know to hate it. Plus she's been on Earth since she was young, so she'd adapt quickly.

>>95350742

Honestly, the Space Lesbian Gods are like the least offensive part of this. Look at America's companion in >>95346483, what the fuck is she wearing? What idiot designed that outfit?

>>95350741
Puerto Rico. She is basically making Chavez into a Puerto Rican.

>>95349981
I cannot even get angry at the SJW stuff because this fails so much as a comic. She clearly just writes the most basic descriptions + dialogue and the artists have to fill in the blanks, which most of them do horribly because they are paid to draw not to write.

>>95350805
Don't Puerto Ricans speak Spanish tho? Why would her mom be afraid to teach them Spanish.

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>>95350741
I found she's 'Bronx-born', don't know about the latin population there but she would pick someting up if she hanged out with spanish-speaking kids and teens while growing up
she's just pulling the racism card to explain the poor writing, I mean if she's so into latin culture she would make effort to portray it well, hell she could even ask a bilingual friend/coworker if the lines hold up, but no

>>95350798
Looks like Wonder Woman and Granny Goodness after using potara earrings.

>>95350805
>She is basically making Chavez into a Puerto Rican
Funny you mention that because her outfit was supposed to be based on the US flag, but in some issues the colors and stars are arranged to look exactly like Puerto Rico's flag.

>>95348669
And all Latin cultures are the same! That's why Brazil, who has a culture and language completely different from the rest of South America is just lumped in with the other countries that America felt a deep connection to based solely on the fact that their skin colour matched hers. 'cause once you leave Mexico, all them brown folk are pretty much the same, right Gabby?

>>95350857
>Looks like Wonder Woman and Granny Goodness after using potara earrings.

You'd think it'd be impossible to make that not look cool but they managed.

>>95349871
Best porn: America getting the D and screaming "Oh my God, cock is amazing!"

And yes, I ripped that line off of Oglaf and the Blowjob King.

>>95350852
Then what the hell is up with the Puerto Rican obsession?
>>95350857
Oh. I guess that explains it.

I still don't understand why Wiccan would create a whole universe based around latin lesbians. Maybe he is not so gay after all.

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>>95346483
This is painful to look at

>>95350907
They say nobody's fully gay or fully straight so maybe that universe was him dumping his latent straightness somewhere so he could go full fag.

>>95350896
Then sjw love this bc 'some lesbians have cocks too!', America gets a tranny gf

>>95346493
always a sign of quality, that one

>>95350943

>Well, it's not straight if it's a girl's penis!

oh my god someone needs to do this

>>95350798
Yeah, I honestly don't mind the Space Lesbian Gods. It's trite and expected from this story because OF COURSE they have to be Space Lesbians, but look at real world mythology. Zeus and Hera are siblings, Loki turns into a mare and has sex with a horse to win a bet, Gaia fucked a dragon to get back at Uranus after he set a bat into her womb to pluck an eye out each of their children, so they'd be ugly and she wouldn't love them more than him, etc.

>>95350973
So what you're saying is that mythology's hot?

>>95350973
I knew that that would be the first response to this. I don't know whether to chuckle sensibly, or shake my head.

>>95349480
Ike The Kike Perlmutter is literally a jew, yes. A jewish former assassin and extreme efficiency expert.

>>95348134

Storm is a mutant with facial characteristics of all the major ethnic groups - caucasian facial structure, oriental eye folds, and african skin color. Sometimes she also has cats eyes.

How long do you think that lasted once Storm was slated to fill the role of marvel's archetypal black women character? Can't have you prime example of diversity not being black and only black in nature.

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>>95351022
>former assassin
That's a meme. He's as much of an assassin as Putin is.
Both of them are fucking pencil pushers. They just cultivate the image of mystery around themselves.

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>>95350925
I get what they are trying to do...But why make one panel be higher while having eyes miss aligned? Because of their similar everythings,at a first glance it looks like America fucked up face. She could have just drawn the eye higher.

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>>95351044
Exactly.

>>95349480
It was made by Jews, but it was their company and their products. The current guy sees it as an IP dispensary and Disney would be happy if the comics division burned to the ground as long as they got all the scripts to rework.

>>95350465
>Better yet, find a trans one
Do you realize what you're saying?

>>95351044
>But why make one panel be higher while having eyes miss aligned?
Because the faces aren't supposed to have the same proportions. One is a child.

>>95351253
I'll take the chance and see what Sophie Campbell can do.

>>95346483
>pa'lante siempre pa'lante
And now I remembered that Alberto Plaza song.
>>95346492
>berraca
Oiga parcero váyase a mamar un burro.
>space cosmic lesbians created the universe
Bravo.
>>95346506
>esa fuerza
MUCHA LUCHA, MUCHA LUCHA
>literally me
Hmmm...really makes you think, what did she mean by this?
>>95346518
>planeta fuertona
Who the fuck says "fuertona" irl anymore?

>>95346506
So the whole universe really IS gay? I mean, it's one thing to not demonize LGBT people, but it's quite another to insist everything is based on them. It'd be nice if America maybe once met a straight individual. I was under the impression there were more of them in the world.

>>95350281
Wasn't he in Doctor Strange and the Sorcerer's Supreme?

>>95351277
Then the left panel should be higher up. When we look for a face, the first thing we look for are the eyes, and them being misaligned just creates the uncanny valley feel.

>>95351454
I can't wait for this shit to be retconned.

>>95350687
>Trees were killed to print this shit
Not that many...

Who's up for sending another letter to America?

>>95351541
Something about how the comic gave the strength to come out as gay to their family? And their family embraced them and was completely supportive of course.

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>>95350561
>And Marvel wonders why their comic sales are tanking.
If you ask guys like Spencer and Slott, they'll boast about how "we've been here before" and there's nothing to worry about. They'll say that the people who are screaming the end is nigh are just angry nerds who will buy their books anyway because they're "Wednesday warriors". They'll never admit that the market crash in the 90s was primarily Marvel's fault, and they'll never admit the current industry rut is their fault too.

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>>95346462
who buys this shit!!!!!! HAHA what the fuck are they doing>? does this actually sell?

is there a way to get sales numbers for this and compare it to other comic series?

>>95349280
They truly are. Nobody butchers Spanish worse. Only latinos I think less of are Cubans.

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>>95346518
....Stealing the design of Planet Lexicon from Word Girl.

>>95351775
Yeah, check out comichron it's all listed there.

My LCS gets 3 copies. It's the lowest ordered Marvel book other than the cartoon screengrab comics. Squirrel Girl is 4 copies.

>>95346518
That's some nice art, at least.

What does "Fuertona" mean?

>>95346506
last panel reminds of that Sonic cartoon where Sonic is reaching to Knuckles just before he falls off a cliff

>>95346493
Typical marvel policy. If the book doesn't sell well, its never the writer's fault. They always change artists.

>>95346493
Quinones likely got behind schedule, it's unusual for an artist to stay on schedule on a monthly book nowadays, so they need fill-ins to help catch up.

>>95349981
>If I were a marvel artist I wouldn't touch this with a ten foot pole.
As a Marvel artist you don't get a say in which book you're gonna work.
If the head retards in charge tell your ass is in a shitty SJW book then you better get drawing or you get the boot and a blacklist, unless the writer says otherwise of course.
This is mostly true with all of the mayor publishers out there (except Image).

Is this supposed to appeal to me as a Puerto Rican? Because the only reaction I can muster is cringe.

>>95351454
Its interesting. I've never seen a gay creation myth. I don't think they could create anything since they can't reproduce which is probably why I've never seen a gay creation myth but its interesting nonetheless.

>>95346518
>Planet Fuertona
Alright, alright, we fucking get it.
That planet is full of stronk Wyoming who need no Manhattan.

Enough with it already.

>>95346743
I remember her saying that she read all of America's comics before hand. This total destruction of her myth is, however, is how you know that's a load of shit.

>>95352040

Fuerte is strong, same root as Force in English (comes from latin fortis)

Fuertón is fuerte with a suffix that would mean something like very strong, + A, that very strong thing has a female gender

>>95351467
That might not have been the same timeline/universe. And iirc he ended up safe and happy with his husbando too

>>95352220
How does that happen?
Like, there's only twenty pages of content in a comic floppy. There's at least twenty working days in a month.
How come so often artists can't manage to average one page a day?

>>95352626
The artist might be on time but the inker or colorist may not be. Its a team effort duebto the fact comics are colored.

>>95352040
It's not a Word, it's more like weird deformation of the word Forzuda, but cringier

>>95352268
Irma died for our sins...

>>95350682
Madrimar did in the last issue. So it took them 5 whole volumes before they had the balls to make 1 whole sentence in Spanish. And from what I've heard, it's bad Spanish.

>>95352878
Here in Spain we use sometimes "Fuertota" but I never heard Fuertona

>>95346483
Its Pa' delante not palante.

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>>95351775
Is this more of the picture or what?

>>95346462

Cultural Appropriation

>>95352761
Sure, but a decent artist doesn't need an entire day to do any of those things.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's reasonable to expect every artist to be able to pencil several pages an hour like that crazy guy that draws One Punch Man, but 20 pages a month is a really lenient deadline and I can't understand why supposedly-professional artists have such trouble keeping it.

>Marvel shit that sells less than indie shit

Jim Shooter save us

>>95354301
Not him, but I'm taking a wild guess and he has other work at the moment that he would rather focus on than this shitshow of a book.

>>95346506

top scene needs to be replaced with Kefka with another character describing him, with anon saying 'literally me'.

>>95347075
Quinones can do good interiors when not given a shit colorist and inker

>>95346462
>a bad book AGAIN gets more attention from /co/ than good books

>>95354679
This board thrives on outrage

>>95354679
>AGAIN gets more attention
It gets attention but no sales. It's Brevoort's nightmare given form.

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>>95351507
savage

>>95355158
>What do you mean upset readers stop buying the comic?

>>95355158
Money talks, bullshit walks.

In the end, sales are what matter the most.

>Brevoort claims controversy is good.

> It's pointed out to him that eventually apathy sets in if you keep doing that.

> Brevoort poo poos that.

> But it's Brevoort who has been poo-pooed.

>retconning Wiccan out of her origin
>her ENTIRE FUCKING POINT FOR BEING IN YOUNG AVENGERS
>RETCON'D OUT BECAUSE "MUH LATINX LESBIANS"
FUCK YOU RIVERA. GOD FUCKING DAMMIT. FIRST LISA NOW THIS!

You think this is awful for people who hate America? Try being an actual fan of the character and watching this cunt shit all over every bit of lore she has! Fuck!

>>95350798
>the Space Lesbian Gods are like the least offensive part of this
Not when it explicitly contradicts her already established God, when that person being her God was the entire reason she was even pulled out of obscurity to use.

>>95352626
Some artists can't do a page a day. Sometimes the editor asks for changes or corrections and they have to redo work (they don't get paid for this).

J. Scott Campbell for instance is notoriously slow.

>>95346845
>>95346806
She's from Morrison's Marvel Boy. No one to blame for not having read that but yourself.

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>>95355886
>actual fan of the character

>>95347977
No, just retcon the origin of the Utopian Parallel, which is still pretty fucking bullshit. She's basically retconning the character's origin. Like if someone decided to come in and make Paradise Island have nothing to do with Greek mythology and make it the creation of a pair of cosmic space lesbians coming down and farting the island into existence.

>>95349656
It's a female artist I think, but the art is gorgeous. Sad they couldn't afford it for the whole book lol

>>95346462
The covers are usually very good.

>>95356357
It's to trick people into buying them.

>>95346518
>>95346483
>Pa´lante, siempre pa´lante
>PLANETA FUERTONA

My spic soul is crumbling in cringe.

>>95356393
That could work with one or two issues at best.

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>>95356357
>The covers are usually very good.
>>95356393
>It's to trick people into buying them.
Reminder that Big Bang has said that America sells like shit for them.

>>95346492
>Old school riddle speak
>Meanwhile, America's inner dialog, or narration regarding her reads like the wet dream of 14 years girl who found a thesaurus

Its like Rivera has absolutely no ability to introspect.

On the bright side, the art looks serviceable, glad we got away from the tire fire that was the last artist.

>>95356393
They'd fool me if the Internet didn't exist and I brought the book home and never read it and just stared at the cover.

>>95346591
What few editors marvel has left don't actually edit, they spend their time on twitter or drinking milkshakes.

>>95356394
translate to share with the rest of us?

>>95346492

Holy fuck is she wearing a soccer jersey?

This shit is racist as fuck.

>>95352264
and yet look at how many artists worked on this shitburger.

you may not be able to say no directly, but it seems you can fairlt reliably weasel your way out. probably by saying you wont be able to finish the work in time or some other bullshit.

>>95356467
"Forwards, always forward" in spic niggerboo slang and "planet STRONK".

Keep in mind that in the spanish language, the word "planet" is feminine.

>>95356409
>>95356457
Eh, I know some people who only buy floppies just for the covers.

>>95356462
I never got the milkshake meme. Gwenpool Editor got called out for not doing her job and she thought it was an attack on her sex?

>>95356538
From what I heard she didn't actually think anything but both sides of the Internet outrage machine thought she did and it blew up from there.

>>95356532
it isn't.
you say "el planeta", not "la planeta".
stop making shit up.

>>95348425
Because, despite the vehement claims of people like Gabby, the number of people actually like Gabby is very small.

>>95352325
>I don't think they could create anything since they can't reproduce which is probably why I've never seen a gay creation myth
That's the ultimate irony with the social justice movement, especially when it comes to LGBT shit. They are incapable of reproducing, so their only legacy is the bizarre morals and principles they've accumulated among their gay circles over the years. They can't pass on their genes, but they can pass on their memes. And Gabby's meme is that lesbian gods created everything.

>>95351454
Anon, that's not the creation of the 616 universe.

>>95346642
>>95346665
It's because she knows that the book is safe, marvel won't cancel it out fear of all of the bad press that they will receive for cancelling a book about a lesbian written by a lesbian.

>>95346518
>Fuertona
You mean Fuertonx you fucking shit-lord!!!

>>95348090
>>95348110
I scared my cat because I laughed too hard.

>>95346667
Is book is going to last for a good long while, marvel doesn't want to risk the bad publicity.

>>95356565
I don't understand why Marvel thinks you have to be that race to write about that kind of character. You don't have to be a retarded transgender spic to write about a retarded transgender spic.

>>95356584
This. Gabby can claim it's because Marvel is racist or something plus failure after failure of sjw books can only mean Marvel failed somewhere.

>>95348541
Unless me ancestors are a collection of 'cold ones', I'm not interested.

>>95356538
>I never got the milkshake meme
Someone shitposted on her twitter in a post of her drinking a milkshake, something that gets posted there a lot 'make mine milkshake' is like her catchphrase or something, and she took the bait and swam hard with it. a shitstorm ensued.

>>95356644
kek.

>>95346492
>Ancestral Plane

WE

>>95356556
Wait, does this mean Gabby couldn't even use the right declension for the adjective? I don't know much Spanish, but "fuertona" sounds like it should be attached to a feminine noun.

>>95356357
because they're usually ripping off better art pieces

>>95351775
http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales.html

>>95356695
from what other anons have posted it seems like the planets name is a bad portmanteau

>>95356538
>Gwenpool Editor got called out for not doing her job and she thought it was an attack on her sex?
Heather Antos posted a selfie with her girlfriends drinking milkshakes. A few twitter replies bashed her, some called her squad a bunch of "fake geek girls". She took offense to that, and soon the SJWs rallied together as if Antos had just survived being sexually assaulted. Brevoort and even more interns (girls and numales this time) posted a group picture. All with milkshakes. Milkshake started trending on twitter. Even DC got in on it, posting their own group picture of female employees drinking milkshakes. It was yet another non-issue that exploded into a controversy because of the flaws of social media.

>>95356471
it's probably the most realistic Latina thing about this book

>>95350694
That's idiotic, you teach a kid to speak Spanish and the school teaches the English they will mimic the accent their peers have at school when speaking English and the Spanish accent their family has when speaking Spanish.

>>95356556

He's actually right. It's Puerto Rican slang for "Forward" but contextually it means like, "Never Stop".

>>95356786

Actually, it's fairly common for parents to not teach their children Spanish so that schools don't throw them in the ESL (English as a Second Language) program. I know in the late 80's/early 90's this was a popular thought.

>>95356267
They were fill-in pages, so it was more likely an editor giving Jen Bartel some work as a try out. Bartel might not be able to do a monthly schedule, have other commitments, not interested, etc. I've seen her work on Jem, not sure what else.

>>95356757
I see, thanks for the summary, I usually ignore shit like that especially when it gets flooded on /co/.

>>95356786
An Anon said she was raised in Puerto Rico, aren't Puerto Ricans Spanish speaking tho? Also the whole "Mom never wanted us to learn" is a fucking lie, what kind of kid doesn't learn their parents language? I mean its usually screwed into you in your formative years.

>>95355886
Both those origins are shit.

Fuck, I hope later on somwone else comes over and redoes her origin again.

>>95356580
...Can somebody fucking tell me where the goddamn gay lisp comes from? It can't be genetic and I don't see how gays learn it since they're inundated with normal people for the majority of their formative years and are the only person speaking like that.

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>>95348090
Writer of the border joke here, please tell me someone sent that shit in

>>95356844
>Also the whole "Mom never wanted us to learn" is a fucking lie, what kind of kid doesn't learn their parents language? I mean its usually screwed into you in your formative years.

It happens more often than you think, especially in NY. Hence the stereotype that NY Puerto Ricans can't speak Spanish.

I hate Gaby, but I actually believe that. But then she shouldn't be sprinkling Spanish words in her book.

>>95350694
>>95356786
The fact that she blames her mother for her lack of Spanish ability just proves how much of a child she really is. She won't take responsibility for her own shortcomings. Just like any SJW believes, it's always someone else's fault. If it's not her mom's fault, it's fucking straight white males.

I'm a Peruvian born and raised in the US. I don't know enough Spanish to communicate with my extended family, but that's not my parents' fault. It's on ME for not picking up on the speech I hear everyday.

>>95356850
They want to talk that way and practice. Same with a MTF speaking in a feminine voice. Practice. If you ever hear one lose their shit, they revert to their natural voice.

>>95356850
>...Can somebody fucking tell me where the goddamn gay lisp comes from? It can't be genetic and I don't see how gays learn it since they're inundated with normal people for the majority of their formative years and are the only person speaking like that.

It's to quickly identify themselves and set them apart from "normal" people. Like how people who go to the gym always seem to have to flare their lats whenever possible.

>>95356850
a bunch of studies have found that adult gay men don't do it with any more frequency than straight men, it's just a stereotype

>>95356824
That's a pretty bullshit excuse, I went to elementary school in Mexico and attended middle school in thr US and I didn't have to take ESL classes because I knew both English and Spanish.

Also my cousin who were born in the US, the ones that are older and younger than me, that know both English and Spanish never took ESL either.

Honestly me and other immigrant Latinos (the ones who knew English and the ones who were taking ESL) fucking struggled with Chicano kids because we fucking did not understand what they were trying to say, sometimes.

Hell I recall one time I spoke Spanish to a Chicano kid thinking he would understand me and he let me talk for awhile until I realized he didn't get me. I apologized to him for speaking in Spanish and for assuming he would understand me, which then triggered him for some reason and yelled at me in Spanglish and told me that I couldn't speak English.

But seriously Rivera has no excuse, she can look up a dictionary, check in the internet if what she's saying makes sense or take Spanish classes, hell she can even learn through the internet.

She's just excusing her lazyness.

>>95357271
She is an inexperienced writer who was given a job by Marvel to write this because of her race and sexuality. She didn't apply for the job, they just gave her a job for being a brown lesbian that wrote a young adult novel about a queer latina.

“Even if Holden Caulfield was born in the Bronx in the 1980s, he could never be this awesome.” Inga Muscio, author of Cunt

Juliet Milagros Palante is leaving the Bronx and headed to Portland, Oregon. She just came out to her family and isn’t sure if her mom will ever speak to her again. But Juliet has a plan, sort of, one that’s going to help her figure out this whole “Puerto Rican lesbian” thing. She’s interning with the author of her favorite book: Harlowe Brisbane, the ultimate authority on feminism, women’s bodies, and other gay-sounding stuff. Will Juliet be able to figure out her life over the course of one magical summer? Is that even possible? Or is she running away from all the problems that seem too big to handle? With more questions than answers, Juliet takes on Portland, Harlowe, and most importantly, herself.

>>95356393
>tricks people into buying them

Who? Those who are brain-dead enough not to actually look through the pages before buying it?

>>95346483
>America is a chivas fan
Shit taste in soccer teams.

>>95357468
That's Puerto Rico's colors.

>>95357468

Its actually a perfect team for the book and the character. I bet Americas favorite movie is The Room too.

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>>95356757
If I were in her situation, I would be like "What the fuck. I just wanted to drink some milkshake on my break. Why did this happen?"

>>95356911
Anon, she didn't grow up in NY. She grew up in LA. She has no excuse.

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>>95346483
>>95346492
>>95346506
>>95346518
I wish Kate was here to give me another speech about what emotion I should be feeling right now..

>>95359049
Oi'm litra-lee intreeged an' in awe ov' bof'va dem. If dis iz wot it'z loik ta foit wif Humies, den Oi applaud all da Boyz foitin' Humies roit naow cuz dis iz Zoggin Orky. Warbike GorkaMorka race? Got'em. Rokkits an' Big Boomz? Got'em.

An' naow "We'ze jus' flyin' off too-geva in da skoi, headin ta a joi-ant pile o' Dakka." Oi'z swear if dey cum back Goin on a Waaaugh Oi'm gonna be so jealous. *sigh* Always da Warboss's shootiest FlashGit, neva da FlashGit-Warboss.

>>95356538
>Heather Antos tweets a pic of her and her girlfriends having milkshakes
>youtuber Diversity & Comics calls her a fake geek girl
>SJWs rally to her defense
>neckbeards assemble for the epic fight against SJW Marvel
>GamerGate level shitstorm ensues
>both sides declare victory

The absolute state of comics.

>>95346483
>Crack your ancestors wide open...
That's illegal and gross.

>>95353392
In Puerto Rico, it's pa'lante.

>>95359083
Perfect

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>>95359049
>>95359083

>>95357342
>Even if Holden Caulfield was born in the Bronx in the 1980s, he could never be this awesome
wasn't the entire point of the book that Holden felt lost and alone in the world? I wouldn't really describe him as 'awesome'.

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>>95359489
>>95359083

>>95359283
>GamerGate level shitstrom ensues
let's not kid ourselves

>>95346807
>SJW flagship
It's a niche book for a niche audience. That's all. What you're saying is like saying that Marville was supposed to be a "flagship".

You could maybe call Captain Marvel or Ms. Marvel "SJW flagships". Not fucking America. They knew exactly who this book was for from the beginning.

Why can't you people just laugh at this comic being hilariously bad without trying to spin it as some massive disaster, like Marvel has never made a low-selling shitty comic about a niche character before?

>>95359936
>They knew exactly who this book was for from the beginning.

Who is it for? I'm genuinely asking.

>>95359936
I would agree with you, but the one problem with that is that her face is on the front of their Legacy bullshit. I don't care one way or another because I enjoy the trainwreck, but I do think they were hoping she would have been Latina Carol with sales.

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As a dirty spic I can confirm that this use of spanish words all over the place is the cringiest shit I have ever experienced.

>>95359996
the tumblr audience that wants a generic action comic starring brown women. It's a fucking awful action comic, but the initial pitch was just "america gets a solo book" not whatever the fuck it currently is.

>>95360160
>the tumblr audience that wants a generic action comic starring brown women
Looks like the Legend of Korra comic got some competition.

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>>95346518
I'll fix it

>>95350281
can believe that of the 3 sons mar-vell had, only the half skrull mutt survived

>>95360643
are you calling Phyla his son?

>>95359283
Do morons like D&C know they are the cause of the problem here or does he want the shitstorm so he can film his crotch and talk about it?

>>95360643
It's because he's the only one not dumb enough to take up the captain marvel mantle.

>>95360725
Of course he does, why else would he do it?

>>95346483
>Crack your ancestors wide open
I actually have no figurative explanation tor this. It makes no sense in any context, except that she's giving her ancestors a curb stomp.

>>95360684
Sorry. Heirs? Offsprings? Spawns? bairns? What is the correct word is you want to emcompass both male and female?

>>95346843

Even Goddesses get repressed by the Patriarchy. Sanar is a powerful, fiesty, modern Goddess who doesn't follow any male made rules when creating her own world, d.i.y.-style.

>>95349478
Fuck you, Korra was never, NEVER this bad.
And while the story was a mess, she was a well-written character

>>95360788
Children, Anon.
The word you want is children.

>>95360788
Children, you fucking mong. Are you ESL?

I can only assume the author is a dyke, right? I mean, what other reason for her obsession with them?

>>95360788
is this a real post
am I getting memed on

>>95360844
Great deduction there Columbo.

>>95360838
>>95360840
Sorry, not from an english speaking nation. I thought children was used for young sons and daughters

>>95360886
Children is used for all ages

>>95360844
>I can only assume the author is a dyke, right?
The word she'll use is "queer", but yes she's a dyke.

>I mean, what other reason for her obsession with them?
You'll have to ask every single person at Marvel that question because it seems like everyone there, straight or gay, is obsessed with gay people.

>>95360886
It does mean that, but depending on context it can also just mean a son or daughter, no matter the age.
If you refer to a child without mentioning the mother or father, you're definitely talking about a very young person, but even if someone is no longer a child, they're still their parents' child.

>>95360751
It either sounds like she's going to go back in time and kill them, or dig up their corpses and look for hidden lesbian gold inside.

>>95356593

This. Impying that a planet can't choose its own pronouns is viciously backwards.