X-Men and F4 joining the MCU

>>95333624
Assuming this isn't bullshit, they're not getting X-Men. Fant4stic maybe, but Fox is getting to much from X-Men to give them up.

Assuming...

The worst thing about marvel though is having mutants share a universe with the other goody two shoes

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>t. inhuman fanboy

Holy shit

You can't stop the MCU hype train!

>>95333624
I'm sure its just about allowing some iconic villains from the X-Men and less incorporating mutants into the MCU. F4 maybe though.

>>95333624
Can they reboot the X-Men film franchise now?

And get new and better actors for Jean, Cyclops, Storm, and Nightcrawler? And a new Wolverine actor? And better costumes? And a villain that isn't Magneto or gets overshadowed by Magneto?

>>95333624
It's way too late to introduce the mutants.

If legit, it can't be any worse than SONY dividing up Spider Man material insisting they know how to make movies

>>95333804
I'd be happier if Sony took their spiderkid and fucked off. That said it'd be cool if Fox and Marvel could cooperate.

>>95333624
I can see them trying to do something with Wolverine now that Hugh Jackman is done with them.

>>95333624
>"Sooner or later, they're going to get the rights back to all our characters," [Stan] Lee said. "They're working on it, and they're still making X-Men movies and stuff. Don't worry about it. You'll get more Marvel superheroes than you'll have time to look at in the next few years."

That's it. That's the entire basis for this. Clickbait as fuck and idiots who aren't bothering to read the link believe it.

>>95333624
its bound to happen eventually. doesn't take a genius to figure out Disney will find ways to acquire the rights at some point.

>>95333624
>believing Stan "Rusemaster" Lee
laughing my ass of at you are life to be honest family.

How do we fit the FF into the MCU? They will need to be teenagers, something like the Ultimate FF

Would be fun to have a light hearted FF movie while the Avengers are locked into Infinity War spacial shit

>>95333945
Either that or have been come from the 1960's and have been trapped in the Negative Zone all this time having wacky adventures.

>>95333724
The MCU absolutely does need the Fantastic Four as there are no better options for them. He's right about the X-men though. Keep them as far away from the MCU as possible for both their sakes. Fox is finding a good thing with the whole "R-Rated barely-canon X-films" thing and that'd be ruined with Disney making them child friendly. Meanwhile, trying to shoehorn the X-men into the already established MCU would just be a disaster.

>>95333945
I can see them doing a movie set in the 50-60's and getting blackhole/wormholed into the future.

Clickbait. Read the actual interview, all he says is "someday they'll probably get the characters back".

>>95333794
This. Best thing they can do is introduce a small amount of important characters while downplaying their mutant aspect like they did with Scarlet and Quicksilver.

>>95333978
The MCU doesn't need the Fantastic 4, but they DO need the Four's villains. Galactus and Doom especially.

>>95333914
>Clickbait as fuck and idiots who aren't bothering to read the link believe it.
Isn't it a good thing if people aren't bothering to read a clickbait link?

>>95333624
F4 is the most boring team though. Literally nothing interesting about them.

>>95333986
Why do the FF have to be in the past? I don't get why everyone always says this.

>>95333945
The FF have never been "lighthearted", in fact what set them apart was that they were the LEAST lighthearted superheroes ever, with more scifi monster and horror elements than superheroics, and the interpersonal drama between the characters.

Ben Grimm's entire character is that he was turned into a hideous monstrosity that can never turn back.

>>95334026
t. Mouseketeer

>>95333724

Inhumans got turned into mutants anyway

FF4 is needed for getting cosmic going.

>Trusting a phoneposter

>>95334041
The whole "set it in the 60s" thing has never made sense to me. They're really not tied to that era. I DO think it should be at least partially set in the past to justify why they're not currently around, but it should just be like them getting trapped in the negative zone shortly before the events of Iron Man, so set it in the mid-00s.

Really, the only point of contention is the fact that it doesn't make sense for Reed Richards, the smartest man in the world, to never be mentioned at any point in the MCU. Having it so he was presumed dead shortly before the events of IM1 would explain that.

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>>95333986
>>95333970

Let's cast a new adult FF team!

>>95334088
CIA doesn't have the jawline for it.

>>95334041

I agree, but as >>95334083 said, you can just have the F as a established team on current MCU, you just can't. I went with the lighthearted shit assuming a teen FF, things could escalate quickly into darker tones with some character development and a post infinity war setting. Also, I fell that is important to do something different from the last f4ntastic fiasco and from FF 1/2.

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The Fantastic Four research team disappeared with Captain Marvel in the 90's but they come back in time for Infinity War 2

The X-Men were Hydra's failed experiments with the Mind Gem, they didn't die.

where's my check?

>>95333624
There is no way they were actually just give them the X-Men. That wouldn't make any sense. They'll probably negotiate for some aspects of X-Men cosmic lore or something, but the X-Men as a whole? No way.

F4 is the same, except Fox would love to get rid of that

>>95334083
Do you really need it to be explained why Reed was never known before? Why are FF the only characters people seem to approach with an idea that they have to be established and have been around for a long time BEFORE the rest of the Marvel U? Everything else in the MCU starts from the beginning, and in the real Marvel U the FF only debuted shortly before Spider-Man, who debuted shortly before the rest of the Avengers.

That's how you do it. You just start with Richards as a relatively young but gifted scientist working for NASA with his test pilot and best friend Ben Grimm, his assistant Sue Storm and her brother. He doesn't have to be 40+ years old, he doesn't have to be known around the world already, all of that can come later. Just keep it simple.

The Fox reboot obviously did a lot of shit wrong but on a fundamental level it was good. Just do a regular origin story, don't treat it like a campy joke, and make it all about the scifi elements.

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>>95334088

>>95334197
the last xmen movie was a flop and fox wants money. disney probably handed over a ton to get them

disney paid billions for star wars and ddint even get the toy licensing rights.

>>95334018

It would be if they also weren't compelled to discuss it.

The issue is that everyone here jumps on a headline taken out of context or whatnot and talks about that, rather than reading the content of something, determining that it's bullshit, and moving along.

So no, it's not good to skip clickbait if you still insist on using it as a basis for a discussion.

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>>95334273

>>95334273
kek

>>95334294
I can honestly say I'd rather put up with a stupid inconsequential discussion that will be eventually proven false than having anyone enable the clickbait causing the problem in the first place by giving it views.

>>95333914

This post will go unnoticed and people will still eat up this click bait shit anyway

>>95334189
>The Fantastic Four research team disappeared with Captain Marvel in the 90's but they come back in time for Infinity War 2
This is actually great.
>The X-Men were Hydra's failed experiments with the Mind Gem, they didn't die.
Ehhhh.

>>95333624
I really hope they don't fuck up the MCU with all the Mutant bullshit.

That really needs its own continuity.

Stan also said he created Captain America and came up with the word "Mjolnir"

>>95334418
>implying he didn't come up with the word "Mjolnir" in ancient times

>>95334088
>Eric Bana as Reed Richards.
>Rosamund Pike as Sue Storm
>Freddie Stroma as Johnny Storm.
>The Thing voiced by John Goodman.

Stan Lee isn't involved in decision making with any of the companies involved. It doesn't mean anything.

>>95334273
>Dennis is psycho Reed
>Sweet Dee is neurotic Sue
>Mac is gay Johnny
>Charlie is idiot Ben

Fantastic Four: The One Where the Gang Gets Powers

[spoilers]Frank is the Mole Man, clearly. Waitress is Alicia. This actually fits together too well.

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>>95333945
>cold war era, space race is in its' prime
>Reed's working on a revolutionary rocket engine
>Doom's his assistant who thinks he is better than Reed
>day of the test comes
>Doom secretly fiddles with the rocket, beliving that he's improving it
>it causes the rocket to tear through time and space
>they find themselves in the negative zone
>they learn to use their powers and fight Annihilus
>find a way home
>turns out time flows differently in the nz, it's been decades on Earth
>Doom is now the same age as Reed, setting him up as his nemesis in the sequel

I don't really want X-Men in the mcu though, except for Sniktbub, especially since Fox said they are not going to recast him, so they are probably going to either stop using him at all, or use X-23 instead, and MCU can introduce their own version, similar to Quickslav and Scarlet witch - just say that all his powers are the result of Weapon X's experimentation or something like that.

>>95334041
>>95334083
You're right, they're not tied to the era per se, but there's a strong pulpy feel to the FF that doesn't really jell with modern comics/cape movies.

It's like Agent Carter vs. Agents of SHIELD - they have a similar agenda and fight similar enemies, but there's a distinct vibe thanks to the era and aesthetics. Besides, it would be fun to have another prequel movie in the MCU - having it be a 60s film helps avoid "same as the other ones" criticism and helps it step out of the shadow of its predecessors.

And it allows for some cool interactions: the FF would be natural friends with Cap and Star-Lord, fellow time-displaced (or essentially so) heroes. Reed and Tony could have interesting dynamics - maybe Reed looked up to Howard growing up, and he himself was one of Tony's influences, so now you have a cool moebius strip of professional admiration. Wonder Woman shows there's definitely an audience for period piece superhero movies, and being fish-out-of-water gives them an incentive to keep exploring the unknown: Earth isn't that familiar to them now either.

I'd set most of the first movie in the early 60s, with a strong Space Race/The Right Stuff backdrop, and some future set-up like a college-aged Harvey Elder being one of Reed's assistants and the CIA backing a coup in Latveria (that brought in the dictator who killed Doom's mom). Since it's the 60s, the Soviets have to be the villains - it starts off emulating the Space Race, with Reed serving as a Werner Von Braun figure and his opposite being Ivan Kragoff (Red Ghost). Kragoff sends three apes into Lunar Orbit (another easter egg), proving his design's feasibility. Reed needs more time and funding for his experimental design to work, but the White House wants results now, so they scrap his project and divert all funding to NASA's more conventional Apollo project.

(cont.)

>>95334882

someone hire this man

>>95334287
>the last xmen movie was a flop
logan was a flop?

>>95333624
cool

now, they don't fucking need origin movies, assholes. just insert them into a trailer for hype, like somethings happening with the Infinity Gems trailer and then BOOM we just see wolvies claws pop out from a corner of the screen, fade to black and title

DONT FUCK THIS UP, I WANT A WHOLE CAST FOR INFINITY GAUNTLET, NO BS "FOX OWNS THIS" SHIT

i also want that marvel DC crossover from the 90s as a movie now, why fight each other when you could combine both into one SUPERVERSE!

>>95334054
>FF4 is needed for getting cosmic going
Guardians of the Galaxy and Captain Marvel already do that.

>>95334882
Reed steals the prototype ship, flies it through an anomalous region of space bomarbed with cosmic rays, you know the drill. After seeing the Americans get fantastic powers, Kragoff decides to fly his own ship through the radiation, and recruits three pilots (Russian stand-ins for the U-Foes, I'm merging Red Ghost and Vapor here to make a true anti-FF). They too get powers, but due to his ships's inferior shielding, they're rapidly destabilizing and only have weeks to live. Kragoff decides to kidnap the Four and experiment on them to develop a cure. He takes them back to space to repeat the process (with his own group safely shielded this time) and try to reverse-engineer it.

The FF beat the U-Foes and steal an escape pod just as the cosmic rays reach peak intensity, and end up being hurtled through time.

The same phenomenon occurs some 50-odd years later (present day), and NASA is tracking it when they see the FF's pod materialize. The U-Foes are nowhere to be seen (I'm pulling a Red Skull "they can be brought back if needed" solution), but Reed and co realize they were Rip Van Winkle'd to the future. A few short scenes showing them adapting to their new situation, and the movie would end with them suiting up to fight the good fight once again.

Doom would be in the sequel, firmly a present-day character because I want him to show up again without timey-wimey nonsense.

Also, Ben Grimm has to say at some point, preferably when Doom taunts them as being "out of time" (in more ways than one), "Past, present or future, it don't matter one bit, cause it's still clobberin' time!"

>>95334418
I don't blame him much for mistakenly thinking he created Cap since he'd been writing his stories since issue fucking 3.

Ironically he's probably written more issues of Captain America than any other character, including Spider-Man and Hulk.

>>95333624
this wont ever happen. Disney doesn't want to pay what they'll make and Fox wont sell anything they have for less. Especially with the star wars home release rights in their pocket. There is no way Disney wants to pay billions for the fucking muties before they offer the money for the Star wars complete boxed set dosh. Which I can only assume they would rather not happen then to share money on it.

what the fuck is so hard to understand about that? why are the faggots here who actually parrot the "give them the rights" meme? literally only a shill could say something as stupid as "give that company your IP".

>>95333870
They work together on tv. It could be Marvel being greedy.

>>95333624
Will RDJ teach Reed about science and ship him into space?

>>95334882
I strongly disagree. I've never felt anything inherently pulpy or 60's about the FF. In fact they've felt more and more at home as technology has progressed.

Look at the Hickman run, the entire Baxter Building interior looks like it was designed by Elon Musk in collaboration with Steve Jobs. They're more like the heroes of tomorrow than heroes of the past.

Adding all this time displacement stuff just feels like needlessly complicating things.

Stan Lee trying to his best Sony's lady impression, he is just happy he can cameo in all the movies, he knows nothing, Feige continuously tells us he has no interest in that.

>>95335378
sadly this is probably how they would do it.

>>95335378
You joke, but at this point it would seem rather likely.

>>95335256
TV is chump change. Live action shows don't sell merch and toys like movies do. And trust me, the movie game is way more about merch and toy dollars than box office. The entire point of creating Marvel Studios was a Perlmutter idea so that they could control all of the merchandise rights and all of the profits.

>>95333724
Actually a Carol and Whor fanboy.

>>95335428
Design and sensibility are two different things. The FF are firmly in the Science Hero mold of 50s/60s Sci-Fi that has no adequate parallel today. Not to mention the Lost World/Indiana Jones thing with an adventuring family visiting far-off locales and uncovering mysterious lost civilizations.

Their enemies are very Silver Age - Diablo, the jungle alchemist; Mole Man, ruler of Subterrania and its monsters; the tyrannical Doctor Doom; mad scientists Wizard and Mad Thinker; the noble Namor, King of the Seas, etc.

They really are designed for another time, and that's fine. I'm a big fan, and Hickman is one of the people who has proven they can work just as well today, but I find it odd that you can look at them and NOT see strong 50s/60s SF influences, moreso than with any other major heroes of the era.

>>95334088
I think the guy who played the love interest in Prometheus would've been a great Reed. Too bad he was in Homecoming apparently, which I haven't seen yet.

>>95334273
Kek

>>95334540
Who is Doctor Doom?

>>95335238
I used to think that too, but after the whole Sony/Spider-Man thing who knows. They might work out a similar deal.

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>>95333724
They don't, but I think everyone knows it would be profitable for both studios to get some degree of collaboration going.
Plus Deadpool already featured a helicarrier, so they will likely continue to try to sneak in easter eggs from each other when they can.
If they don't get a handle on it eventually one of the creative teams just might do something to make the legal departments rip their hair out.

>>95335615
On which part? Like I said, no way disney goes for the muties before the star wars blu rays. And there's no way Fox is asking for less than Disney will ever make on either property (or set of properties).

Sony saw a chance to make money and that cunt that got infamous from the leaks found a way to get some sweet sweet producer money for herself.

>>95335570
>Who is Doctor Doom?
>>95334309

>>95335813
>If they don't get a handle on it eventually one of the creative teams just might do something to make the legal departments rip their hair out.

You don't have a brain do you? Or do you just think the bullshit you believe is true? How do you ever think "creative teams" are just going to slip some shit in somewhere?

My problem with
>reed existed in the past, but got lost
is the same with carl danvers in the 90s. Someone would have noticed. Even if reed got lost when he had the accident that gave him powers, a scientist of his caliber should have impacted the world around him. Someone should had mentioned him so far. He'd have invented groundbreaking stuff.

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>>95333624

>as if

I fucking hope not, Disney is fucking cancer. X-Men is fine as it is

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>>95336073
>X-Men is fine as it is

>>95335986
People would think the rocket blew up or some shit.

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>>95335141
>"Past, present or future, it don't matter one bit, cause it's still clobberin' time!"

>>95336193
What more do you want? DP is looking good.

>>95336194
anon did you think this disputed what the other anon had said?

If anything that would be just another reason you would have heard him mentioned by now.

>>95336193
There is no Marvel movie that comes close to DOFP, X2 or Logan.

>>95335867
>How do you ever think "creative teams" are just going to slip some shit in somewhere?
Literally his pic related was not allowed to happen but they did it anyway.

>>95336247
Anon, I'm very well aware. It was literally referenced in his comment. Which would imply he thinks that something even less subtle would stand a chance. When that was literally run through the legal department to make sure nobody ripped their hair out.

You stupid smarmy faggot.

>>95336333
They ran it through, asking "can we have a helicarrier?"

They got told no.

So they still had a helicarrier.

>>95334287
you probably talk about Apocalypse, but it wasn't flop

>>95336233
or even Apocalypse, or Last Stand, and I'm not baiting

>>95336567
I unironically enjoyed Apocalypse the most in 2016 (out of the big 3). Probably because of McAvoy and Fassbender

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>implying the implication that this is actually happening


No you dumb motherfuckers

They're gonna keep giving us Jennifer Lawrence movies

What Stan said was taken out of context and anyone with half a brain can see taht

>>95336390
Number one, no that is not what they ran it through as. They wanted it to look like the MCU helicarrier, legal said make it look less like the MCU helicarrier but that the helicarrier was fine.

So, again, I don't see why you think that's a good example. Specifically because the other anon, the way he presented his statement, didn't even pose that as being a legal kerfuffle.

>>95333624
OP is full of shit.
http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/09/13/stan-lee-marvel-getting-x-men-fantastic-four-back/

>>95334287
You talking Logan or Apocalypse? Apocalypse didn't do spectacular but it did well enough. Then you have Logan and Deadpool making them bank.

>>95337250
>Logan
>Bank

It wasn't as cheap as DP anon. It did well, it didn't do spectacularly. they're hoping it gets an oscar but they'll be lucky if it gets a globe with how bad the second half was.

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>>95333624
Dont fall for this trap.
He just wants to nip at our souls. Wein wasnt enough for him.

That doesn't mean anything. Just because someone who isn't involved with the movies says one day he hopes they will be in MCU does not mean they are.

>>95336684

This is the correct answer. Some things are allowed and some are not. Disney had the balls to make a wizard of oz film when they don't have the wizard of oz film rights. Yes the movie is public domain, but the film characters are not. The Witch being green is a signature of the movie and is protected character. A WB exec guided them with what color green she was allowed to be, because they were not allowed to match the green from the film. Same issue in deadpool. They were not allowed to explicitly make it the same designed helicarrier from a MCU film. They had to make alterations, but were still allowed the implication of the ship being such a thing in the background.

>>95333794
>Avengers 4 final scene
>Thanos rips out the gem from Vision's skull.
>Wanda screams and the screen fades to credits
>Post credits scene is Captain America lying down, struggling to grab his shield
>Ian McKellin's voice "Oh Captain, my captain"
>The Avengers will return in House of M

>>95333624
Inhumans bombed so hard

>>95333914
here's how Marvel gets the rights back, Stan walks up to the executives at other studios who are 30+ years younger than him, says "If I outlive you Marvel gets the rights back. Execs unaware that Stan is immortal take the bet, Stan outlives them all, Marvel gets all the rights back>

>>95337350
>House of M
Starting MCU X-Men with house of M would be as senseless as the first Batman and Superman crossover movie based on TDKR and Death of Superman.

>>95337448

Seriously. Even fox would likely demand something different.

>all of the x-men will be DLC in marvel vs capcom
>it's win/win for marvel

FUCK

>>95333945
>How do we fit the FF into the MCU?
How would I do it?

>Spaceship crashes in the middle of NY.
>FF step out
>"We did it Reed, we're home!"
>They're middle-aged. They have a 6-month-old Franklin with them.
>"Uh, who the fuck are you guys" says the obligatory Iron Man cameo.
>"Tony, it's me, Reed. We suspended habeas corpus together."
>"Wut?"
>Turns out the MCU is a reality where Doom successfully used time travel to erase the FF.
>Doom himself is some random Latverian minister in this timeline.
>They leave him alone and fight the Mole People for the rest of the movie.
>Credits
>After the credits we see the harmless MCU Doom was a Doombot the whole time, implying the original timeline's Doom is still doing something someplace in the MCU.

>>95334088
That's a big Latveria.

>>95337977
FOR. JEWS.

>>95334088
Kinda like the idea
But is he a big enough guy?

>>95334273
Is Frank Doom or Moleman?

>>95335827

>no way disney goes for the muties before the star wars blu rays

If Disney gets the X-Men and F4 rights back before it releases the Uncut Original Trilogy on Blu-ray, I will remember your post and laugh at you.

>>95333624
Secret Wards??

Incursions??

>>95333899
Jackman said, and I'm paraphrasing here, that he wouldn't reprise his role till he can be cast as an Avenger.

>>95339658
Cool dude, but why do you think that'll happen?

>>95340678
hugh jackman never played wolverine so what would he be reprising?

>>95333770
and get Singer to fuck off

>>95337448
That's not even a good comparison. House of M makes sense, but not as a crossover with Fox. It'd be a good way to introduce the X-Men

>>95340899
>hugh jackman never played wolverine
http://www.bbfc.co.uk/releases/x-men-film
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=xmen.html
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/hugh-jackman-wolverine-exist-longer-article-1.1409140

Ask again without the bullshit claims, then we'll talk. Or if you just want to live in your own fantasy world, don't bother asking at all.

>>95333770
Cyclop's actor wasn't bad

>>95341075
I'll reply regardless faggot and I'll repeat my claim. Hugh Jackman never played Wolverine. So what would he be reprising?

>>95333624

fuck off with your bait news shit. jesus christ, you bait fucks are the greatest cancer on this board

nobody wants x-men and F4 joining the MCU because MCU would destroy the x-men franchise which stands well on its own and because they would make the F4 into quipsters. I'd rather see another mediocre Fox movie than see Disney get their claws on those movies

>>95341111
Why should anyone care that you're repeating a patently false claim then? Give me one good reason to give a shit.

>>95341245
>nobody wants x-men and F4 joining the MCU
Speak for yourself, snowflake.

>>95341252
Are you actually this retarded, anon. Or do you not understand that I know Hugh Jackman was in the x-men movies for 17 years. And yet not once did he play wolverine.

you stupid flaming faggot fuck.

>>95341111
So what character has he been playing in Fox's xmen films?

>>95333945
After infinity wars, of course

>>95341298
So you're not giving any reason why anyone should give a fuck about you.

Figured as much.

>>95341306
Don't take the bait, Anon.

X-Men works better away from the rest of the Marvel universe.
The mutant debate makes more sense when you don't have characters like the Avengers running around.

>>95341351
I'm genuinely curious what bullshit he's going to extract from deep deep in his ass

>>95341277

on a serious note, I would have LOVED to see x-men and F4 in the MCU if Disney had continued in the style of Phase 1. As it stands now, the MCU is literally a joke. Every single one of the movies is turned into a semi or full-blown comedy that it's cringeworthy at best. Homecoming was the first MCU movie that I didn't watch just because I can't stand the Disney writing anymore. These movies have turned to corporation-trimmed generic products that only the mainstream masses can enjoy. Every phase 1 movie had its own atmosphere and great characters. Then Avengers happened and most of the previously established stuff went to dogshit

Call me what you want, but I'm just sad that I'm not interested in the franchise anymore to the extent that the first movie I don't watch in the theater is a movie about my favourite Marvel character

>>95337350
Wanda probably dies in Infinity War to be replaced by Yaaas Queen.

Someone will have to sacrifice to stop Thanos in Infinity War, and Vision would be too obvious.

>>95341306
Some six foot tall faggot named James who doesn't wear yellow

>>95341298

not the guy you quoted but you are a whiney pathetic little bitch. it would have been great if he had donned the costume but he did portray the character in a great, impactful and faithful way. there was also a lot of good character development during all the movies he was in

>>95341443

Okay.
But, hear me out.

Vision has an infinity gem in his forehead.
That gem keeps him alive.
Thanos wants that gem.
If it plays out like the comics, Thanos WILL get that gem.
If Thanos removes the gem, Vision is no longer alive.

Vision is almost assuredly going to die.

>>95341479
and you're a little faggot who'd get slapped around by a fucking pug with autism. Tough words, anon, aren't they super cool?

Dude didn't play wolverine once in 17 years. Logan was complete trash. Sorry your favorite movie of the year was baby's first R-rated flick.

>>95341662

either you are trolling hard or just stupid, get a grip. you are not providing a single argument for your claim and just spout the same stuff over and over again. grow up

>>95341683
Dude leave him alone. He's really mad about the absence of yellow spandex

>>95341683
I mean what do you want me to say. he's about as faithful an adaptation to the character as the little shit in the leather suit on Gotham is to Batman.

>>95333724
>Literal Marvel Pajeet

Everytime

>>95333741
Which X-men villains have their seed spread outside the Xuniverse?

Aside from Magneto?
Was Arcade originally an X-men villain?
Every major X-men villain I can think of is mostly X-universe/mutant-concerned. Apocalypse, Sinister, Shadow King, Phalanx, Mojo, MLF, Morlocks, Reavers, Brood, Mastermind, Sentinels, etc.

WHO'S READY FOR SOME QUIIIIIIPSSSSS

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>>95334088
this has always been my Reed

>>95336218
For the core X-men films to be actually good. DP is fine, but it ain't worth forsaking the X-men.

>>95341724

I'm mad about that too but jesus, why not discuss that shit like a normal person? it's basically the same shit over and over again. it reminds me of the countless bait DC/Marvel company war threads that keep us from having decent discussions about stuff we all like. criticism is always ok but this "IT'S SHIT CAUSE I SAY SO" crap is getting out of hand

Really reminds me of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKpQgEyjNdM

>>95341728

it seems to me as if you have no clue about the character at hand because you are not referring to a single book

>>95334008
>Galactus and Doom especially.

No fuck off. They ruined doom twice in the movies. Also I'm I the only one that liked what they did with galactus in the movie ?

>>95335021
>i also want that marvel DC crossover from the 90s as a movie now
This, but only this

>>95342174
That would be because your opinion is wrong

>>95342174
You may actually be the only person.

Man, I hope.

Not because the MCU needs them, but as one last "fuck you" to Perlmutter.

>>95342254
The concept was interesting you have to admit. Plus we got to see the silhouette of the Galactus we're all familiar with

>>95342287
I'm being serious here it wasn't that bad. It was easier to explain than some giant human sitting on a chair wearing a weird ass helmet. Also think about the audience. They probably don't know who galactus is so they wouldn't understand what was going on

>>95342392
My issue was more that Silver Surfer did not interact with Galactus in any meaningful way.

>>95333770
>>95340932
>And get new and better actors for Jean, Cyclops, Storm, and Nightcrawler?
None of them are bad except maybe Sohpie. Have you watched Mud? Cyclops can act.
>And a new Wolverine actor?
Fuck off
>And better costumes? And a villain that isn't Magneto or gets overshadowed by Magneto
Maybe

>>95333770
Wolverine can never be recasted ever.

>>95333624
>/tv/ thread
>mobile

Hmmmmm

>>95333624
Don't care. Marvel shit all over the X books, then decided that maybe they're good for money after all only to give us Spontaneous Mutant Dance party. And let's get real - The X-men related films have been churned out to the point where no one WANTS to pay money to see Jean, Iceman, Cyclops, etc. Shit's stale. There's this thing called relevance, and that ship's sailed.

>>95333945

Id introduce the F4 slowly. Id make Sue Storm a professional athlete. Have her be a gold medal gymnast or swimmer or hell both. We've got enough female icons that aren't known for their prowess, lets have Sue be fit and for a reason. Id actually probably have Sue Storm cameo in a stand alone Namor movie as a swimmer, no powers. Im sure that triggers some of you spergs, but oh well.

Ben would be a pilot. He knows Rhodey, Carol? Someone, again, he cameos in a movie with no powers. Pilots whatever he needs to in some movie.

Reed too, pops up as a scientist. Has a scene or two with, Pym? Stark? T'Challa" Banner? Spider-man? Doesn't matter, but he proves himself as a scientist.

Id have all these cameos lead up to the fantastic four movie. There'd be a whole year of 2-4 movies with Fantastic Four cameos establishing these people as people with skills and abilities that a normal human could have. Show them as mildly famous too. People know who Sue Storm is like people know who Michael Phelps is. People know reed richards like that know Niel Degrasse Tyson. People know Ben Grim like how people know Sulley. This leads to them being chosen to be a team. The public interest and faith in such quasi-celebrities makes them right for a mission that doesn't need to involve super heroes.

Even if they get the X-Men back, what is there left to do that the films haven't already done?

>>95333684
if anything I see a Avengers vs X-men movie

>/tv/ is real mad about this somehow

>>95339585

Surfer

>>95343455
Great, a film where the Avengers are developed, and Mystique hogs all the X-Men's focus.

>>95343541
What was Singer seriously thinking? I think he just wanted out and didn't care.

>>95343443
Mojo

>>95333794
Yeah. The X-Men in the comics have been around since close to the very start, coming out practically alongside the Avengers and a couple years after the Fantastic Four. But the MCU has been way too developed for them to suddenly go "oh yeah there are humans randomly born with powers called mutants and everyone hates them and they've always been around but we didn't mention them even once yet".

>>95344039

They could do some bullshit like infinity stone radiation from the tesseract caused more and more mutants to appear. That could mean everyone born after 2010 could be a mutant.

>>95341772
Brood are just xenomorph ripoffs and fit fine in any cosmic Marvel story.

Mojo has mainly targeted the X-men but could go up against any superheroes.

Also you left out the Shi'ar. They're practically tied with the Skrulls and the Kree in prominence.

>>95341306
Not muh Logan

>>95333624
disney will refuse to make rated R movies and they will be trash

>>95334026

The only interesting thing about them is Dr. Doom

>>95333624
Is this real?

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>>95333624
God, I just want to see the FF back in comics. A half-way decent movie would just be the icing on the cake.

>>95346093
>FF back in 2017 Marvel Comics
Are you sure about that?

>>95346130
A good writer can do good work.

>>95346143
> Good writer
> Marvel

This is where it gets tricky because FF and X-Men have some of the least physically cast-able characters. Super Skrull, Juggernaut, shit like that. I know they'll just CGI most of them, which I'm ok with.

>>95337403
>and now we gut the pig

>>95342290
But this is what he wanted.

>>95334390
This!

Please close and sage this fucking shit!

Its never gonna happen, Fox holds the rights hostage for all eternity, and then we have Ike da Kike.

>>95333624
I don't want to make another thread, so I'll ask here. If Bruce Campbell was cast in the MCU who would he play?

>>95337026
Don't bother, faggots will ignore posts that shows this is shit clickbait and live in their imagination dreamland, as if that would make it true.

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>>95337403
>here's how Marvel gets the rights back, Stan walks up to the executives at other studios who are 30+ years younger than him, says "If I outlive you Marvel gets the rights back. Execs unaware that Stan is immortal take the bet, so Stan absorbs their life essence by unleashing his energy tendrils right then and there.

>>95334088
Tom Hardy as Doom

yeah nah it'll be another Spiderman type "pay a billion and you have them for 3 movies"

>>95344165
>>95344039
>>95333794
Its like you faggots never seen Xmen Evolution. Mutants were around but hidden until a very public fight they couldn't mindwipe. Hell even Claremont had Jean mindwipe people after battles.

When the world finds out mutants are an actual dangerous reality people freak out.


Hell First Class and Days of Future Past operated on the same premise. The public didn't know.

>>95346162
Marvel HAS good writers. Waid, Robinson, Ewing, Spencer, Slott, Pak and even Bendis have written critically acclaimed shit. Their current writing sucks yea but they used to be good.

>>95348395
That would actually be a pretty cool AoS arc - while everyone was losing their shit over a few dozen Inhumans, there have been thousands of mutants running around, hiding in plain sight. Many of them are organized into ideologically-opposed rival groups that battle for supremacy, they're well-trained in combat, and they've got actual telepaths who can make you forget they exist.

This is a doomsday scenario for SHIELD, honestly. I'd love it. And it would be pretty cool to have a TV show with mutants from the perspective of the government.

Just the division of 'Marvel normies like people with superpowers in general' but then goes 'hey guys with superpowers! Fuck you!' With the X-Men. You can have one, you can have the other, but you can't have both. They're not a race or class with unique cultural tones, they're just mutants.

It's the one thing that still doesn't make sense, and it was always a shit allegory.

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Fuck the rest of the xmen but having blue-yellow wolverine in the avengers would be cool as fuck. And mcu can easily shoehorn mutants in.. just say there aren't as many in the world and prof.X has been rounding them up and wiping human memories left and right to keep them hidden and forgotten.

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>>95333684
This, aren't they making a new show with Arya Stark's actress in it?

>>95334083

It always baffles me when I discover someone with an opinion that is so wrong that its almost unfathomable that the opinion could've ever formed in the first place.

Just curious, but would you or would you not say that Cap is tied to the WW2 era?

Everything about the Fantastic Four is built around the notion of the "scientist as savior" zeitgeist of the late-50s and early-60s. Have you ever watched old movies like, say, This Island Earth, where the scientist is the rock-jawed hero who is treated by the commoners like he is a rock star? The era of the atomic age, the soviet scare era where science was seen as the one and only way to save our society, that we had to have bigger and better science than everyone else.

This is why every retelling, every "bold modern take" on the FF has fallen flat, the creators themselves didn't realize how tied to the 60s the FF were and they lost something in the transition. You can't just replace the Space Race with declaring Reed was instead the first dimensional traveler, it has no resonance.

Taking Reed out of that era's flavor is as damaging to the FF concept as divorcing Cap from WW2. Other wars simply do not have the same feel, if Cap were frozen after Vietnam he wouldn't be the 1940s patriotic idealist, he's be a disillusioned peacenik.

Ultimately I think the FF are a doomed franchise precisely because nobody gets this.

>>95341441
Pretty much this. They all just get reduced to quip fests. Doctor Stranges entire character felt way too much like RDJ'S Iron Man

>>95348955
It's a movie and it's New Mutants. She's wolfsbane

>>95333624
It's bad enough that MCU got Spider-Man, I don't want them to get the FF and the X-Men too
I want new stuff like THunderbolts to be adapted, not another FF or X-Men reboot, not a spamming of Wolverine movies

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>>95333624
I just want a gwenpool movie

>>95334088
>Doctor Doom, I'm Baxter Building

>>95333624
>mobile

>>95346550
>Tom Hardy
Venom

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All I'm really interested in is Wolverine in a decent costume

>>95349016
>You can't just replace the Space Race with declaring Reed was instead the first dimensional traveler, it has no resonance.
The problem is Carol's movie and Cap also have that time travel thing, so there's no way they'll do the same for the Fantastic Four, they could be introduced as scientists of SWORD in the first Thanos movie

>>95348395
>Its like you faggots never seen Xmen Evolution.

Yea.... it's almost like that's a very niche cartoon to watch a small fraction of the representation that is X-men.

>Hell even Claremont had Jean mindwipe people after battles.

So you'd have to have Charles do that all the time over every mutant. He is suppressing political progress and strife himself by erasing the memory of mutants from people? He basically solves racism but only for mutants....till one day...he stops? THIS IS THE PLOT POINT YOU WANT USED?

>>95346093
>>95346143
>>95348410

FF is shit and marvel will make them even worse. there's zero chance that they'll bring in another iconic character like silver surfer. you're better off hoping for silver surfer movies. rip that bandaid off right now. you'll thank me later.

>>95348935
>fuck the x-men
opinion discarded
>blue and yellow wolverine would be great in the movie
oh shit your problems are chronic

>>95333624
Superhero movies are on the way out. Once Infinity War is finished, audience numbers will plummet

Introducing the Mutants and the F4 this late in the game is a bad move.

>>95343455

at least it would be actual fights rather than more mindless drones

>>95352873
You're never going to see anything that isn't black leather or something that looks like military gear. Its far too ingrained in the X-men franchise at this point.

Fucking Bryan Singer. How can a gay man have such a shit fashion sense?

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>>95353807
The MCU introducing Wolverine would literally extend MCU interest another 10 years.

What the fuck are you talking about? These characters on one team would literally guarantee 1.5 billion even if it was BvS levels of shit.

>>95333945
I have an easier solution

After battle of NY, aliens are basically confirmed to the public

Baxter Foundation/Reed launches into space to observe anomalies, and some crazy cosmic rays/wormhole shit happens

They've been off earth since avengers, and finally come back after avengers 4. they can be a cornerstone of phase 4, because a) Doom is needed after Thanos and b) Galactus/Surfer/Annihilius helps the space stuff

this way you avoid the messy, "nobody has mentioned reed this whole time, until they introduce him"

>>95354051
oh and Doom? This whole time while the F4 was off-earth, he slowly consolidates his power, learns the mystic arts, etc

It's a good thing there's a european microstate called Sokovia that ultron destroyed, it'd be a real shame if Victor somehow took the ashes over and rebuilt it as......Latveria.

>>95353953

Seriously. Once the fatigue sets in, the nostalgia and ability to give people what they've wanted for years will bring back interest. Storm, Wolverine with the Avengers? Each studio is exhausting almost every option they have to maintain interest. These are not options now. Give them the ability to do this stuff and it'll blow up all over again.

>>95353807
>Superhero movies are on the way out. Once Infinity War is finished, audience numbers will plummet
Yeah because Marvel are the only ones making movies. The Cinematic Universe meme should end though.

>>95353872
We got some shitty costumes at the end of Apocalypse. It's probably a place holder

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>>95333624
>Avengers vs Xmen Netflix show

>>95356541
No thanks