Animated Horror

Duh? Why wouldn't it be?

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>>95288310
no. well it can work but it will have to be done very well and as a psychological horror or something but gore horror wont work.
pic related had so much potential for an amazing horror show but it was for CN so they had to go easy on the kids. still it was really good.

Yes, you just need to understand the basics of horror and for that you need to know what the human mind is naturally repulsed by.

I don't think so. Horror has to be "believed" to be unsettling, and that's very difficult if not impossible to accomplish with animated characters in an animated world.

Yes
https://youtu.be/bpTn-eH4omM
>inb4 b-but puppets aren't /co/

>>95288500
Video games manage just fine despite this.

>>95288519
I dont think this is scary but I think it's so weird that somebody would make this. Like why would anyone make such an edgefest? Cringe. I blame that hug me I'm scared rubbish

>>95288500
If that's true how come the only good kind of horror is surreal, i.e. the least "believable"?

>>95288447
OTGW was aiming more for folktales than horror, and they hit the nail on the head.

That said i'd love to see something like an animated Twilight Zone or an anthology of supernatural stories on Adult Swim.

I recall there being one pilot for MTV that was going for something like that but it didn't get greenlit. I forgot what it was called though...

>>95288500
Going /a/ here but I've found Junji Ito's stuff genuinely unnerving and that' pretty far from realism.

>>95288310
oh of course, you just have to go about it in a different way.

>>95288500 points out one big problem with animated horror, and while this rule is not true in video games, that's due to the fact that video games also employ immersion and your own choices.

Best thing to do? Make characters that the viewer really cares about, and put them in obscene danger or terrifying situations, but they can't always escape unscathed, or even escape at all.

Surrealism is also a good way to invoke repulsion.

>>95288310
>Disturbed: The Animated Series

>>95289716
I know Uzumaki got a live-action adaptation, but has any of his stuff ever been animated?

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>>95289711
you're talking about the cartoon pilot with the dark haired girl and that spider thing? Girl's name as Ebola, Pan mentioned it in a video, I'll grab an image for you.

>>95289736
I really don't understand why people think video games horror is good. It's some of the worst and most amateurish I have ever seen next to slasher flicks.
>b-but immersion
Immersion doesn't mean dick when all you have in your arsenal is generic dark empty corridors, ridiculously stupid-looking monsters and jumpscares. When the games try to go for more psychological shit it ends up being juvenile.

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>>95288310
They've pulled it off in japan.

>>95289799
i understand your point, and i even agree, to a certain extent. Funny thing is, the most scary game I've played wasn't even a horror.

It was Subnautica. The game fucking terrifies me, but that's due to my own fears, thalassaphobia i believe? My point is that it wouldn't have been scary if I wasn't controlling the character. THAT is what i mean by immersion. The fact that the next choice you make could lead to something frightening or negative is what made horror games so successful. Even if that game is shallow and every model looks like a fucking potato.

>>95289313
Watch other videos from the channel, it's a fuckhuge edgefest

>>95288661
they make up for it with realistic graphics and most of all with the fact that you're actually playing the character, meaning his decisions are your decisions, meaning immersion that a horror film could never achieve

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Did anyone find moments in the segments in this scary? I watch too many horror movies so I think I may be desensitized and not a good judge.

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>>95289926
Same goes for this one. They're both decent horror anthology movies (despite some of the cgi in a few segments kinda sucks) and I'd recommend giving them a watch, but I dunno if I wanna call them "actually scary."

>>95288310
No, animation is an inherently childish medium. Even nipshit that most people will cite as "adult" and "mature" comes off, at best, as juvenile.

>>95288310
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fDzdDfviLI

>>95289785
yes that one! Thanks for reminding me!

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>>95288310
Depends on what element is actually scary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV7PfFgPscE

>>95290031
my bad for not putting it in the text, but the name is deadtime stories.

>>95288310
I think it can work if it's done well. The problem, at least for me, is that too many supposedly "Scary" rely way too damn much on jumpscares, unlikable protagonists, and gore.

For me, the best kind of horror is all about atmosphere, uncertainty, and the feeling that something isn't quite right. I think where animation can shine is if it takes full advantage of the Uncanny Valley effect.

>>95289920
>realistic graphics
Animated doesn't mean cartoony. If you can get something to render at 30+frames per second on a consumer-grade PC, you can do much more advanced shit with pre-rendered 3D animation.

>greater immersion
Vidya has its own issues with horror, like having to give the player a fighting chance, the limits of the gameplay engine making it easy to predict when scary stuff is gonna happen, death and reloading completely fucking up the tension, etc.

>>95289779
>uzumaki got a live action adaptation
pleasegodno.jpg

>>95288310
it can be done, but the writers would have to shy away from convention to pull it off. You know those supernatural facebook horror movies? Not doing that, or at the very least not doing it with a supernatural bent, is an excellent start.

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>>95288471
Art and tone are important too. Junji stuff captures it pretty well you would have to go easy mode black and white to pull off things. Story wise it's got to be something unsettling to imagine.

>>95290389
LOOK AT IT
https://youtu.be/j9U4JqO5hxo

>>95290464
Visual style is probably the most important thing for making an animated horror piece. A show Spongebob could pull off a half decent horror episode, but Regular Show and Bob's Burgers would struggle.

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>>95290692
oh lord that looks awful

>>95289779
Gyo.
It sucked.
https://youtu.be/xZtOnznW3GI

>>95290852
Yeah, I googled it. Too bad. Still, there's some as-of-yet unspecified anime adaptation in the works, so there's still hope.

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Remember when Junji Ito was attached to Silent Hills, and then Konami split from Kojima and blue-balled everyone who had hype for the game? My nuts are still a deep cerulean color

>>95289716
oh god, I always get mildly triggered by those two banners referencing his story about the holes
oh god not the holes please not the holes

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>>95288310
I know this one isn't strictly horror but whatever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InW-SyPYfcM

>>95290905
I feel like Ito's manga doesn't work well as an anime. Ito draws things with incredible detail. And it just wouldn't look as disgusting without the detail. Like the zit scenes in Glyceride

>>95289874
Japan makes anything animated, it's not fair. Why can't western animation do the same?

>>95291632
Because it's expensive in the west.

>>95291778
Why is it so much more expensive in the west, though? Most of the work gets outsourced to Korea anyway. (and if the Japs can do it cheaper through Jap magic, why not just hire a Japanese company to do everything except the voices?)

>>95291837
The directors are in Japan, and they get paid slave wages for slave work schedule. It's funny to see.

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>>95291837
Japan outsources their animation too. DBSuper looks like complete garbage.

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>>95288447
The pumpkin people and their town were unsettling as fuck yet tame at the same time. I'd kill for more shit like that. You know something is up but you don't know what.

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>>95288519
>Before We Begin, I Would Like To Know If Anyone Here Has Feelings For Me.
>...........
>OK Then..

>>95291372
Ito could work well I think if done with a kinda dark and grainy look to help mask the cgi and make it look more real.

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ALRIGHT HOLD UP

I have a giant playlist of horror animation shit including lots of short films, cheeki breeki russian kino, underground american horrorcore, french snuffilme, and assorted and abandoned weird shit that's barely got any views, as well as not scary but in the spirit of spook stuff.

How many of you want me to organize a stream next month? cause I've got shit fuh days, man, but last year mods kept deleting the stream threads I wanted to put up so I dot know if its some kind of unwritten rule that we can't have streams.

3D animated, yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDllb7oCj4g

>>95288310
I unironically like Where The Dead Go To Die as a horror movie, it's just a huge fucking nonsensical nightmare with no point or reason
That being said, horror is very subjective. There are literally only two things all humans are scared of: the despair and the unknown, and both are only scary when they actually seem like a real life perspective for someone. When you make a horror movie, you absolutely can't make it scary for everybody, or even for the majority.

>>95290105
Woah, what's this from?

>>95292398
Do it. Drop a link in the general horror threads across a few boards when you do so

>>95292398
yes

>>95289799
Games like Outlast and RE7 are great horror. But then you have games like Silent Hill that just ruin everything.

>>95292503
Who exactly do you expect to fall for this bait?
That being said, RE7 is not half bad,
it's jumpscares are eerie similar to some of my nightmares

>>95292478
Aside from /x/ and the occasional midnight /v/ threads, what are some good places to link?

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>>95288310
Yes, but only in Japan. You can thank this massive faggot for crippling American comic culture for decades. Of course this has adversely affected American animation as well. There used to be a rich tradition of American horror comics which would eventually have led to animated horror if the comics code hadn't cut it all short.

>>95288310
No. Only children have the neurochemistry for it.

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>>95292549
It is a little weird how seldom we discuss the fact that american comics and cartoons had their balls cut off in its infancy. I remember watching my first anime at age 14 long after I had exhausted every horror movie on the planet, and I shat my fucking pants.

>>95292574
To think that horror garbage is ever good? Yes. Only literal children can think like that.

>>95292528
Not bait. It's people like you who think jumpscares are bad and psychological horror is some refined shit who are damaging the genre.

True horror is actually scaring the audience, causing real physical effects on the body, causing the adrenal glands to secret and involuntary flinches. But then we have chumps like you who think it's about dark stories filled with sexual abuse and symbolism.

>>95292722
>I dislike a genre therefore it's objectively bad
wew lad

>>95292845
>genre fiction shitters mad
lmao

>>95292821
>True horror is actually scaring the audience, causing real physical effects on the body, causing the adrenal glands to secret and involuntary flinches.
If jumpscares are the only way that can be achieved, then according to your understanding, horror must be a pretty fucking boring medium.

>>95292857
>genre fiction shitters
What does that even mean?

>>95292821
>damaging the genre
You mean, improving it.

>>95292865
All horror comes from a sense of vulnerability. This is most easily achieved before you have time to put up your defenses.

Note that not all scares have to be a loud bang, it can also be a low note to simulate a sinking feeling in the viewer.

>>95289313

It's kind of the creator's thing, who is a self-described emo. At least he makes it legitimately funny.

>>95292865
That's like saying roller coasters are boring because they only excite their riders by going up and down real fast.

Horror games and movies and roller coasters actually have a lot in common.

Perfect Blue was pretty damn frightening to me in a way no live-action movie was.

>>95292476
Diluvion, after checking the trailer it looks kind of neat, not exactly horror but still neat.

>>95288310
Sure.

I don't know about full on horror, but Aardman's made some pretty dark/unnerving things in the past
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP7P03QWiXo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcVc-hMniUE

I'm watching some Lovecraft kids movie on TV right now. It's fucking awful.

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>>95292398
Why not. Care to list some of the more obscure horror animation you know of?

>>95288310

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnOWE47ew4I

>>95291889
what's that? saiyans for ants?

>>95288310
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPO106yW7lU

>>95289926
>that fucking bestiality scene

>>95291034
The scariest thing about Silent Hills was how easily people latched onto empty promises because of the names attached. I don't think I've ever seen people jump headfirst into disappointment that quickly.

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>>95293682
there's too much to go over, but the first time I streamed a parcel of what I've got I think I did a good job of making a primer of good stuff

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1orKoppoQSu5Pd1ydvRz7tF1dWc2vsqZ

enjoy

>>95296634
Oh right I remember this.
I made my own horror animation playlist based off yours for personal use.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTZP7rrAaeRDGAO9mhT8hnUlIVVnOxxrE

If you want to steal videos from it go ahead.

>>95296900
ty m8, there's a couple in there I somehow missed

>>95288519
My god Jordan, what the hell are you making now?

I get all this experimental stuff is to get out his ''anxiety'', but can he please return to his old videos?

>>95296615
I said scary, not hot.

>>95296622
Hideo Kojima is overratted as hell but the demo was pretty decent and he had some nice talent involved. I'd rather see an end product even if it would be disappointing than just have the project unceremoniously aborted just because Konami wanted to gut their video game department and focus on pachinko machines.