I also likeHarleybats but I don't see enough art of them
Fanfic writers and drawers are incapable of putting Harley in a relationship that isn't incredibly emotionally harmful.
>>95284923
>>95285200
What do you mean?
>>95285337
Joker and Ivy and numbers 1 and 2.
It's not like Bruce is much better than them with "Muh Gotham" obsession, but I at least don't see him as abusive, not on purpose.
>>95284923
>Harley finally leaves Joker
>Decides to enter rehabilitation and answer for her crimes
>Seduces Batman with her strong moral core
>Batman shares his secret identity with her
>They end up married and have kinky af sex
>Batman ends up cucking the Joker while Harley cucks Catwoman
>Damian gets a teasing stepmom
>>95285393
>Ivy
>Abusive
Stop it
>>95285393
>>95285444
Ivy is misanthropic as fuck though
Also pic related is my favorite batman shipdat flustered batman
>>95285444
There are more examples of her straight up using Harley with affection as "Payment" alongside punishment for failure than there are runs with Ivy nurturing Harley. (Most of the latter being recent runs and AU shit like Bombshells)
Fact is, Ivy is crazy, so is Harley and as much as putting your dick in crazy isn't a good idea, putting crazy in crazy is even worse. In truth, Harley just needs to get the fuck away from all of them, leave Gotham and never go back.
>>95285506
>>95285522
>>95285515
>There are more examples of her straight up using Harley with affection as "Payment" alongside punishment for failure
Fucking proof.
>>95285539
>>95285444
>>95285594
>The same movie where this happens
Pls
I liked Harley Quinn/Bruce Wayne during that brief time when she was trying to reform. Then Gotham City Sirens had to fuck it up.
Only Talia is crazy enough for Bruce.
>>95285621
Well yeah, it was an inferior PG-13 remake of Harlequinade with Ivy instead of Joker.
>>95285631
>GCS
>A fuck up
Why won't the bullshit stop?
>>95284923
Joker fucked up in going after Batman's body when he could've finally turn into a woman and become the crazy gf to Batman he always wanted to be
>tmw no yandere Joker gf to rescue everytime she creates a mob war against Two-face, penguin, black mask, and Riddler
>>95285664
It's a fuck up because they're not the Batman harem club like God intended
>>95285649
Talia is best girl and pic related cemented her position
>>95285661
Except that the prequel comic have shown that Ivy has never been that way towards Harley, it make it seems like the fight was something that never happens with them
>>95285506
>>95285522
>>95285539
>>95285552
Why doesn't Wonder Woman go after Bruce now that nu52 Supes is dead? Hell why doesn't she rape him and get herself pregnant with a superior future Robin/Batgirl?
>>95285780
Even Dini, the guy who created it, wrote it as abusive.
>>95285780
>>95284923
What is it with people shipping Ivy? She's a terrible lover
>>95285948
Boobs + pheromones = any combination of seduction
>>95285887
That man has changed his tune since then.
>>95285948
HarleyIvy have been going on since 1992, dude
>>95285843
BatCat is on right now. Starting WonderBats would be picking up a dropped Johns plot line. I remember during that Trinity War thing he implied that there was some jealousy from Supes about them, but that was never followed up on (and was not in Post-Flashpoint continuity.)
>>95286107
He also recently wrote those Harley Loves Joker backups where things are fine. Abusive relationships aren't all-abuse all-the-time, if that were the case no one would be in them.
>>95286301
Ivy has NEVER been abuse to Harley, anyone saying that is just a contrarian. Ivy has risked her life time and again for Harley. She has helped her tons.
>>95286347
You are basically Harley in this situation. "No, the times Ivy hits Harley are out of love, to make her try harder. She loves her really"
That's how abusive relationships work, abuse surrounded by enough love to make the person being abused not care.
>>95286534
But Ivy has never hit her, like ever. Outside of those DCAU comics that everyone like to present as proof of the abusive nature of the relationship, Ivy has never done it. It's just like one universe out of thousands, hardly prove anything
>>95286534
>>95286347
Take this argument elsewhere. This is a bats ship threadactually a BatCat thread
>>95286580
This thread needs more batcat
>>95285542
Her old ongoing from 2001-2003.
>>95288153
Her old ongoing where Ivy dress up like Harley just to get shoot by Joker (thinking she was the real deal) just to show Harley that Joker would kill her the moment she isn't useful to him? The same ongoing that had Ivy dressing up like Batgirl just to rescue Harley outta the mess she created? Harley's old book where Ivy took a road trip to Metropolis alongside Harley even though she didn't want to go at first because of her plants?
Get outta here
>>95285506
>>95285522
Barf.
>>95288237
Post YOUR superior ship then.