Beast Wars

>>95255014
I found it went down a peg after the Transmetal event.

All of a sudden they didn't need to be animals anymore outside due to energon exposure, the landscape was only barren rocks and shit, was overall just less interesting by one level out of ten to me. The best fight in the whole thing was the showdown in the floating island where Optimus and Megatreon re-enact the Kong vs T-Rex fight.

Tigatron and Airrazor had the least personality of all the maximals. Why do you think they got the axe to make room for more interesting characters?

>>95255809
>the landscape was only barren rocks and shit, was overall just less interesting by one level out of ten to me
I can see how that would be a turn-off. It's not like Call of the Wild and Dark Voyage were fantastic episodes though given their lush scenery.

>>95255809
Transmetals looked way better than the organic beast forms, it's a shame only a select few made the upgrade in show

>>95260661
>it's a shame only a select few made the upgrade in show
Weren't there fewer characters that didn't receive upgrades?
>Rhinox
>Waspinator
>Inferno
Fuzors were probably on par with the first generation transmetals, and the other characters were either slagged or revived as transmetal 2's.

>>95260819
Airazor, Waspinator, Rhinox, Terrorsaur all got Transmetal upgrades in the toyline

I understand why some didn't and why some were simply killed, but it would have been cool if they all got the upgrades in the show rather than just having the toys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsYortvV8zg

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>>95255014

>>95260853
>>95260819
>>95260661
Rhinox didn't need an upgrade

I'm rewatching the series and I'm nearing the end of season 2. Its so great. The writing is really solid and I love that pretty much every episode of the season advances the metaplot at least partially (Transmutate is next and I think that might be the exception, if memory serves).

Its a shame that Beast Wars hasnt been touched in so many years. I know there were a few comics that IDW put out about 11 years ago, but they were really subpar. I'm a big Beast Wars fan and have seen the show multiple times and still didn't completely understand those comics. I think you needed to have seen BW Neo and BW 2 to get the full picture. I really really want them to put something out that continues the story from the end of Beast Wars, has them go back to cyberton and go from there (ignoring Beast Machines).

>>95255014
Friendly reminder that Dinobot and Rattrap were deeply tsundere and in love.

>>95264104
>Its a shame that Beast Wars hasnt been touched in so many years.
I don't get why people always say this...what is there to touch? Beast Wars, canonically, is part of the G1 timeline. It wasn't a stand alone series or some alternate universe, it was part of the pre established Transformers mythos, not a separate mythos of it's own.

> I'm a big Beast Wars fan and have seen the show multiple times and still didn't completely understand those comics. I think you needed to have seen BW Neo and BW 2 to get the full picture.
You didn't, All the IDW Beast Wars comics did was put the characters from Beast Wars who didn't make it into the show into the show's universe in a separate battle unknown to the show cast, things got a little weird toward the end but none of it is actually taking the Japanese shows as canon (at least I didn't take it that way), it just borrowed some characters and concepts from them since the toys existed, and the whole point was to fit in as many toy characters as possible, but in terms of canon the Japanese shows are entirely non canon to Beast Wars and the way I took it was that it was non canon to the IDW comics as well despite some concepts being swiped just for the fuck of it

I mean they used McDonalds Transformers in it, they were doing a lot of tongue in cheek fan stuff for it because why the hell not

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>>95262294
Yes he did

>>95255014
My favorite TF show too, used to rewatch it with my younger brother on a yearly basis at one time. Still go back to it sometimes.
Not that it's without its flaws, but I feel it gets a lot of undeserved dismissal by non fans and casuals due to the visuals and some relatively weak episodes. For that matter, when I first discovered it, I also gave up on it early and hesitated to go back to watch the rest (though I'm thankful I did).

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I had forgotten about Rampage and Depth Charge man they we're awesome. Love those shark guns Depth Charge has and the part where Rampage gets impaled in his chest and just pulls at the sharp rock screaming in pain felt pretty damn crazy and violent.

>>95267630
So, are you trolling or what?

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>some characters had 3D models made but didn't make it into the show.

>>95258462
Because Hasbro said so?

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>>95264922
Alright, here's an upgrade for him

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>>95260853
There actually was a reason behind which bots went Transmetal, although the show never explicitly said it.

Simply put, everyone who had been on earth from the start had their frames mutated. The original cast. The exceptions, Rhinox, Dinobot, and Waspinator, were in the CR chambers/tanks, and were shielded from the mutating effects of the wave by virtue of being in the process of repair when it hit. Terrorsaur and Scorponok were both glowing when they fell into the lava, and even Tarantulas and Optimus changed, despite neither being in their actual body at the time.

I always figured the original teams had been on planet soaking up raw energon radiation juuuust long enough to cause some kind of reaction with the quantum surge.

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>>95255014
What's that OP, you want a new Optimus Primal figure?

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>>95271221
Here you go!

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>>95271239

>>95271239
>>95271246
This shit? This shit right here? THIS is why we can't have nice things.

Whenever Hasbro DOES throw a bone to Beasties fans, they still bitch about it.

I mean, it's fucking season 1 Optimus Primal wearing his Optimal Optimus form as a power-suit, with his Transmetal hoverboard mode thrown in for fun.

It's literally all of his forms, minus the Batman-y and Laurence Fishburne-y ones, put together.

What the fuck did YOU want?

>>95258462
I think they wanted to flesh out the relationship idea

>>95271337
yeah and we never got bitch wars so thats a negative

>>95270188
That sucks I hated how Beast Wars had a small cast for both teams.

>>95271452
Never mind Mainframe seemed dead set on advertising the toys with the worst names at first

>Cheetor
>Dinobot
>Waspinator
>Tarantulas
>Tigatron
>Black Arachnia

I bet they were disappointed after they finished up Optimus Primal and then found out his name wasn't "Gore-Rilla".

>>95271452
The small cast let them have actual character arcs though. If the cast was, say, doubled right from the start and only got bigger, imagine what plot might have been cut out because they couldn't spare the time to explore one guy's motivations over multiple episodes.

>>95273164
The names are kind goofy, but keep in mind that one of the most prominent Transformers of all time is named Bumblebee. That pretty much sets the bar.

>>95273594
Bumblebee doesn't turn into a bumblebee

>>95264762
>>Its a shame that Beast Wars hasnt been touched in so many years.
>I don't get why people always say this...what is there to touch? Beast Wars, canonically, is part of the G1 timeline. It wasn't a stand alone series or some alternate universe, it was part of the pre established Transformers mythos, not a separate mythos of it's own.

While Beast Wars is a part of the G1 continuum and plays off of G1, even interacting with the characters directly to a small degree, the same does not apply in reverse. Watching a G1 type show does not really play off of any characters involved with Beast Wars, nor any of its story archs, nor even its setting (such as taking place in the same time period, ie far in the future after the great war[s] ).

And while yes, there are characters such as waspinator, ratrap, and black arachnia scattered throughout a few series here and there. They are not the same characters and really only reflect the original in name and general design. Their characters, especially rat trap, have little to nothing in common with their original characters.

>>95270308
Hasbro let the writers decide who lived and who died. Which is why they were going to kill off Waspinator but decided to axe terrorsaur instead because fans like waspinator and no one liked terrorsaur

>>95273771
He turns into a yellow and black Volkswagen bug. It's definitely an intentional pun.

>>95274355
Fans proving once again they have shit taste

>>95270188
I have his figure, unfortunately he doesn't have his light piping anymore,

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>>95271452

>>95273771
Hasbro legally can't make a Bumblebee toy that turns into a bee.

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>>95274960

>>95274307
Yeah but since Beast Wars is part of G1, how can you have Beast Wars without it

It would make absolutely no sense to have a stand alone Beast Wars series with no connection to anything, even less sense if it was supposed to be canon to Beast Wars

>>95274879
Are you implying Terrorsaur was worth keeping around? He was a second-rate Starscream made irrelevent by all the other treacherous predacons.

>>95269538
why the heck would you think that was trolling at all. i was being genuine.

>>95275022
Thats not the point. The point is that you can have G1 without BW. Tie ins to G1 from BW are great, its part of what made BW so lovable to begin with.

But saying that there have indeed been continuations of BW simply because their have been reboots/continuations/spin-offs of G1 is just silly.

>>95275666
And that wasn't my point, my point is what is the point of a Beast Wars series that is not connected to G1, or at the very least, a continuation of another G1 esque universe?

It would seem asinine to me, Beast Wars is asinine but it makes sense in the context of G1, what could a new Beast Wars series have to offer other than "they turn into animals and not machines"? Cause it seems to me that's all some people want, which is stupid

>>95255014
kidkino

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Id like to imagine that Waspinator's transmetal form would be similar to TFA's version. Also I was a bit disappointed Airazor didnt get enough screen time. Should have killed off Cheetor instead

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>>95276249
He had a transmetal toy, actually, so he would have looked like this. I like how his third mode is a jet- it's sort of a callback to the episode he was possessed by Starscream. He's even red!

>>95271313
Small Primal doesn't turn into a gorilla, and the Optimal upgrade is worse than the original OpOp.

>>95276456
He looks like an actual wasp then

>>95275666
>>95275746
At this point they just treat Maximals and Predacons as sub factions of the original big 2 trans tech era is dead

>>95276249
>Should have killed off Cheetor instead
https://streamable.com/zooo5

>>95273164
>the toys with the worst names at first

Thats because those toys WERE the first, with the exception of BA and Tigatron. And they were repaints of Wave 1 characters. Generally the 96 figures got adapted, with the 97 figures largely glossed over with the exception of Inferno.

>>95275746
>Cause it seems to me that's all some people want, which is stupid

Why? I got into Beast Wars cause they were beasts not because it was a G1 sequel series. I wasn't even born when G1 ended.

>>95276927
Well if all you cared about from Beast Wars was the "beast" part, you are indeed stupid. I don't think it really requires further explanation why, but I was born after the height of G1 being a thing but still got into Transformers before Beast Wars, my first TFs were G2 toys, but even so Beast Wars was still "my" Transformers show, it was the first new one I got to witnessed as it actually aired new episodes and most of the TFs I still have are Beast Wars figures from childhood, so I'm sure I'm a big a fan as you are but the appeal was always robots in disguise, not animals who talk

>>95277098
Its not the only thing I cared about, but the beast thing was what got me into it. Just like with Power rangers, I preferred the beasts to the vehicles. I'd later become a Transformer fan as a whole, but the whole organic beasts transforming into robots was so unlike any other transforming robot toy at the time it was unique. If they made a new series like that I'd be interested in it, even if it had no connections to the old series. We've seen the vehicle-transformer concept remixed thousands of times, but not the beast one.
Seems pretty stupid to judge people's tastes over something so basic.

Should have had another season so Tigerhawk's death wouldn't have been so wasted.

Dinobot is best boy!

>>95270188
supposedly, Inferno was gonna get his toy transmetal form but they had to choose between that and quickstrike.

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>>95277321
>supposedly, Inferno was gonna get his toy transmetal form but they had to choose between that and quickstrike.
He did get his toy transmetal form, his name was Scavenger

>>95255014
I really like how Beast Wars felt like other syndicated genre shows of the time. In a way it felt closer to something like Star Trek DS9 or Xena/Hercules and the like than it did other kid's cartoons. the writers approached it as a Sci-fi show more than anything else, which helped set it apart from other toy cartoons.
To this day we still see that influence of treating Transformers as sci-fi. Really Transformers media falls into two archetypes, more or less, Superhero, or Sci-fi. G1 was totally a superhero show more than anything. As were the Japanese series. Beaat Wars, Beast Machines, and Prime? Sci-fi series. Animated, superhero series, easily. The movies, sci-fi, albeit lightly. RiD 2015, Superhero series. The IDW comics, sci-fi. Elements of the other bleed through, but ultimately they lean in one way or the other.

Is this still worth watching, has it aged well? Didn't have tv as a kid and missed roughly everything. Looking for any recommendations for shows up to the early 2000s. Only thing I've really seen is SpongeBob which has god-tier writing.

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>>95277476
>drills

>>95277539
Don't watch it if you're cynical about anything before your time. You will inevitably make a thread about how the humor bugged you and the CGI was outdated despite it being made in the mid 90s, so do us all a favor and don't watch it if you're a cunt

>>95277493
All Transformers is scifi, the G1 movie was Star Wars

>>95275081
Anything is better than Waspinator.

>>95278277
Humor is subjective though, and has nothing to do when a show was made.

>>95278577
Humor is like anything else, it goes through trends. Beast Wars humor is not modern day humor, Beast Wars humor is similar to what you might find in Joe Kelly's Deadpool, sure there is drama and darkness but it's broken up by cartoon antics and slapstick

Most kids these days can't handle that, it's a 90's thing

>>95255014

I really disliked many of the deaths on the show too. The bots are pretty much recyclable and can rebuilt all throughout the series. Season 3 puts a stop to that in the last few episodes. I guess, if no one rebuilds you....you're dead. Then again robots are effectively immortal, just transfer to a new body, as optimus did and dinobot did..?

>>95277321

No, they dropped the idea because his toy didnt sell. Worried a future toy wouldn't sell, they dropped it. The toy was already gonna get released anyway, but they didn't want it to be "inferno" . So they renamed the toy to scavenger because barely anyone bought inferno.

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>>95275081

Should have kept both of them and ditched inferno. These two were great together.

>>95278739
Slapstick isn't a 90s thing.

>>95278986
No, but wanting shows to be MUH ACKSHUN and MUH SERIOUSNESS is very much a 00s kid thing because faggots were raised on anime

>>95270188
more of these?

>>95279260
Or they just prefer humor that isn't bad slapstick.

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>>95278880
>No, they dropped the idea because his toy didnt sell.
I'm actually surprised to hear this. Was the price the concern? I remember him being my favorite of the bw toys mainly because of how much larger and detailed he was than the others.

>>95270377
Christ, that character arc was stupid
>I hated myself and what I was! And I hate everyone!
>lol, sorry, bro! I was wrong and a bit crazy! Keep up with the hippie shit!

>>95274984
Wait, what?

>>95276749
>and the Optimal upgrade is worse than the original OpOp.
Speak for yourself.

>>95278880
>>95277321
>>95280093
Inferno was originally going to be Megatrons new body

>>95279429
Ok, so don't watch Beast Wars. Now we're back to square one!

>>95280093
Inferno was the sole toy in his case. When they bought a box of his size class wave, he was all there was.

>>95278912
>Should have kept both of them and ditched inferno
How many years did it take you to major in Shit?

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>>95279307
Final one.

There were also transmetals for
Cybershark and Iguanus.

>They killed Depth Charge off
My ten year old self was beyond mad.

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>>95278912
>Hating on Inferno the best bot.

Fuck off and die.

>>95281706
Considering how well all the deaths were handled and the characters dying how they lived and/or completing their mission, I don't see why that would upset you. Tigatron, AirRazor, Inferno, Quickstrike, Terrorsaur, and Scorponok were the ones that got shafted

>>95281757
Well, Airrazor and Tigertron came back as that transmetal fuzor, didn't they?

>>95280435
I think it was a cop-out since the fans of BW that were still watching were pissed about what the writers did with Rhinox.

>>95271156
Maybe it has something to do with the stasis pods.

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>>95267630
>Take it straight to the Pit you sickening piece of slag
Shit was fucking intense!

>ctrl + f
>no WAR WAR! STOP IT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwcMBpVXzWM

>>95278912
>>95281554
>>95281747
You know, aside from waspinator, i think inferno was the only bot who was shown to be able to pull himself back together, i mean he was decapitated in one episode and just put his dam head back on.

>>95283125
Tarantulas.

>>95278912
Terrorsaur is an annoying Starscream proxy. I'm glad they ditched him so this series didn't have to be 100% old gen Transformers.

>>95283125
Didn't he get his bot things to get his body tho?

>>95283297
god dam it was meant for >>95283174

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GARBAGE

>>95283996

EVOLUTION REVOLUTION

BEAST MACHINES

>>95281757

Inferno's S2 death would've been a much better conclusion than what we got in S3.

I wish Airrazor & Tigatron came back as Transmetals rather than the stupid Tigerhawk shit.

>>95283125
>decapitated
Fucker was also blown into dust on screen, and survived that.

Though season 3 was kinda screwy with how much damage the bots could take.

>>95284312
>I wish Airrazor & Tigatron came back

Why, they were both bland as fuck, probably the most useless characters in the whole show

>>95264431
Best ship or beast ship

>>95280556
What? This is real?

>>95285206
Yes. This is allegedly the basis for that gag when Megatron and Inferno smash into each other and switch heads.

>>95285505
So was him basically going all Xehanort with bodies in the last leg of Beast Machines another throwback to the idea? The idea of Megs body-hopping and nobody knowing who or what he could be is a pretty nifty concept for him.

>>95281747
>>95281554
>>95283260
>For the Royalty
>My queen!
>Burn!

Fuck off you sub-cucks. Terrorsaur is clearly too alpha for you.

>>95287323
What did Terrorsaur have going for him? He was like the Scorpion in Marvel, sure there is potential for him to be cool, but he never was, he was always a loser and a waste of space who's only great quality was losing

Beast Wars had a really great cast full of unique characters, it's really surprising to me that someone would latch onto one of the most cliche and boring ones

>Beasties

>>95270188
Those 3D models were made by some company outside Mainframe in Japan, for the Japanese release of the toys.

>>95287573
>>95287323

Terrorsaur liev motiv was be a traitor character. His reason to be disappeared when all the rest of predacons are equal of tranchearous (and more efficient).

>>95287573

I'm not latched on to have him, I just missed him when he was gone. He had personality. He was skilled but not overly goofy like quick strike or inferno. I would have loved to have seen the character grow knowing it was earth. They dumped the treachery stuff onto tarantulas who I love. I suspect some of that plot was being saved for terrrorsaur. But season 1 tarantulas is bland till ep 23 or so.

>>95275666

Season 1 bow has minimal g1 and is great on its own. Bw doesn't need g1 to piggy back on. You can do a stand alone bw series. Though it would likely suck. The "prime" continuity was ripe to have a beast wars exist somewhere.

>>95284312
Inferno was supposed to die then. I think he got brought back by executive meddling.

>>95290719
Predacons seem to operate on two, and only two, basic mindsets. They're either slavishly loyal to whoever they see as being in charge (Scorponok, Inferno, Waspinator right up until the end), or they're backstabbing and opportunistic (Tarantulas, Blackarachnia, Terrorsaur).

>>95291009
Yeah, they didn't really know what to do with Tarantulas for a while. At first, Terrorsaur was the shifty traitor, and Scorponok was the crazed inventor, which left Tarantulas with being the deranged creep. That's why they kept showing him devouring random critters and trying to cannibalize Cheetor that one time.

As time went on, he gradually took over the roles of both Terrorsaur and Scorponok, which probably contributed a lot to their deaths.

>>95291411

Losing a couple characters helped. Like in Star Trek ting. Worf and Geordi got real roles when yar left. I do wonder about terrrorsaur ability to defuse a bomb tho.

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Why was the computer voice so sexy?

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Any of you fellas have any of your beasties still? I've managed to keep some though many have gotten broken

>>95282999
2funky4me

>>95292251
Should be careful with that Torca though

>>95282605

And then Rampage just laughed his fucking ass off at it all.

>>95292251
I have a huge collection still, sitting in storage downstairs. They were amazingly well designed toys.

>>95287323
>Terrorsaur is a badguy... who betrays!
Wow, you've latched onto one in a million there.

>>95271239
>>95271246
I like it. The only toys that Primal has had are all robot-in-gorilla, so for me at least, it's interesting see him being a head-master..

>>95292251
transmute tarantulas looks sweet. i never had any of the toys when i was a kid.

>>95292251
I'm from Argentina and I think I had 5.
Optimus Primal, the t-rex, a red spider, a green insect one?
That's what I barely remember.

>>95293486
Transmetals all looked cool, just nice 90s colors and chrome
AESTHETIC or whatever the youths say these days

>>95293397
>inferno is more interesting than terrrorsaur

Inferno is like a power rangers bad guy of the week who hung around for 3 seasons. A one dimensional characature. Terrrorsaur at least felt more real and less cartoony.

>>95294251
Why not watch every other season of Transformers if you want Starscream? The weasely backstabber routine is so tired.

>>95294330
>season
Gen, rather.

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i was probably the only kid at school who liked this guy. i always thought the sound of his missiles and the missiles themselves were just awesome. liked the clack sound his pincers made also.

>>95294410
He was my brother's favorite for the longest time. Heck, he still might be for all I know.

>>95294410
I've always thought scorpions were rad, but he's too typical of a lunkhead for me to have grabbed onto. Plus Scorpinok is probably the #1 jobber in the series (at least how I remember it). Always faithful, always frontlines, always blown the fuck out.

>>95292251
I only had Dinobot, and its was destroyed years ago.

>>95262294
This nigga gets it

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>>95295045
>and its was destroyed years ago.
He sacrificed himself for honor.

>>95294349
>thinks wanting terrrorsaur over inferno is wanting to watch g1

I'd have preferred more characters over all than losing some like we did, but some were awfully bland.

>>95294410
Scorponok shtick was pretty forgettable. Like they wanted him to be the Soundwave of the show but then made him dumb and loyal but not really funny,

>>95294535
Yeah, even though he was there from the start and lasted for half the show, Scorponok tends to barely come to my mind when I think about BW. Same goes for Airazor and to a degree Tigatron. I don't know how they managed to make them so bland and forgettable, in an otherwise hugely memorable cast. Tigatron at least had that nature stuff going for him (which got old quick), but the writers never figured out what to do with Scorponok or Airazor, and Terrorsaur quickly lost all purpose too.

>>95295424
Yeah. His personality is he talks like someone who is kinda dumb, and that's about it. No funny quirks, no interesting relationships, no nothin.

>>95294410
>>95294535
>>95295424
>>95295464
At least with Airazor and Tigatron, there is at least enough in terms of interpersonal relationships and hints at personalities that can be expanded on. It wouldn't take very much to turn them into memorable characters.

Scorponok doesn't even have that much

So, here's a topic for you:

Fix Scorponok.

How would you guys make rise him up from being the absolute worst character in the series?

>>95295592

Make him an eccentric flamboyant goofball.

>>95295592
Give him someone to bounce off of, for starters. I don't care if it's an existing character or someone designed to contrast him. But something more meaningful than "You better not be disloyal! I've got my eye on you!"

Maybe give him a secret obsession. Something that could come out at an inopportune time in combat and turn everything on its head.

>>95295676
>I don't care if it's an existing character or someone designed to contrast him.

Well, if it was an existing character, you're only option are really Inferno or Quickstrike (if we decide to say "no one dies" after season 1), since Waspinator already has Terrorsaur and Tarantulus has Blackarachnia

And actually, either one kinda works.
With Inferno, they're both loyalists
With Quickstrike, they're both scorpions

It's not a GREAT place to start, but it's a start regardless

>>95295910
>since Waspinator already has Terrorsaur and Tarantulus has Blackarachnia
Nobody ever said each character can only have one relationship. But I suppose spreading it out helps those poor saps with no real dynamic.

>>95295933
Well, my first inclination was to suggest Blackarachnia, but she already had a bunch of different characters she played off of, so she didn't need another one

He also could have played off of Dinobot really well. Consider he took Dinobot's place of Megatron's second.
Maybe they were bros before that.
Maybe Dinobot secretly wants Scorponok to defect with him, or to help him beat Megatron and help him lead the Prerdacons, but Scorponok's loyalty won't let him, so he hates Dinobot now? (but secretly at night wishes his friend will come back home)

Their battles against each other would be vicious as a result, but they'd ALWAYS stop just shy of REALLY hurting/killing each other

>>95296070
>Maybe Dinobot secretly wants Scorponok to defect with him, or to help him beat Megatron and help him lead the Prerdacons, but Scorponok's loyalty won't let him, so he hates Dinobot now? (but secretly at night wishes his friend will come back home)
Damn, that's pretty good.

>>95295381
I enjoyed Rampage, Inferno, and Quickstrike a hell of a lot more than Terrorsaur and Scorponok.

>>95295592
>How would you guys make rise him up from being the absolute worst character in the series?
He wasn't Transmutate though.

>>95296495
Transmutate was barely a character

>>95296439
I enjoyed Rampage and Inferno more than Terrorsaur too, but that didn't make Terrorsaur unenjoyable. He just needed to build a new niche after being Starscream didn't pan out

>>95296070
They already put that to use with Dinobot and Rattrap.

>>95296573
Dinobot/Rattrap are more like the exact opposite

DB and RT are two guys who started off hating each other growing to build respect and a rough friendship with each other.

This premise would see Dinobot and Scorponok as old friends who are having a hard time dealing with the fact that they now find themselves on opposite sides of a conflict.

I dunno, I think it would be an interesting dynamic to look at.

And it also opens up the question: What kind of interactions would Scorponok have with Rattrap? Would the link they both share with Dinobot affect how they would treat each other on the battlefield?

>>95296439

Quick strike and inferno were my least favorite characters. I did like the jealous scorpinok aspect with inferno but they mostly were just grunts. Rampage is probably the best predacon overall. I ate up his emo fear hunger shit. I'd take rampage over many other press. Shame no one ever stole his spark to have a slave for a day. That would hav been a good terrrorsaur episode. If he had lived with to see rampage anyway.

>>95295592

The scorponok moment that stands out to me is when he uses bio weapons to help Optimus into the alien ship. I'd have explored scorponoks scientist side. Scientist tend to be neutral. Loyal to megatron but the experiment is important, results too. Maybe he'd work with rhinos to test something

>>95292251
I only ever had Transmetal Cheetor, because he was my favorite. He's missing one of his arms, but he's around here.

I always wanted to get his Transmetal 2 form, it's so damn cool looking.

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>>95296743
Friends on both side of the conflict. Never intent on finishing off his opponents because defeat and failure suffice. Dinobot was never able to convince Scorponok over to the Maximals' side, and his sacrifice left Scorponok distraught and racked with guilt.

After Inferno and Quickstrike are obliterated as collateral damage by the Nemesis, transmetal Scorponok finally comes to the realization that their undying loyalty to Megatron was in naught. Filled with regret and recalling his departed friend's stubborn code of honor, he refuses to fire on the Ark. This buys the Maximals enough time to stop Megatron. Feeling his cause no longer worth fighting for, Scorponok chooses to go down with the ship.

>>95295592
I would have a few episodes where the lava at the bottom of the pred base starts behaving strangely. At first it would bubble uncontrollably at random, or maybe at the mention of fallen preds/Scorponok and Terrorsaur. Eventually even growing lava tendrils and attacking other preds. Unknown to the preds, Scorponok's/Terrorsaur's sparks never extinguished. Somehow falling into the lava as they were turning transmetal left them in a fluid state and allowed their sparks to survive, but only by joining with one another. A freak energon storm strikes the pred base and animates just enough of the lava to toss itself into a CR chamber and/or a box of scrap parts of Scorponok/Terrorsaur and possibly other preds.

What awakens is new Predicon which is a mixture of Scorponok/Terrorsaur. He hates his former allies for forgetting about him but still has a desire to remain with his so called comrades via Scorponok's loyalty. Some sort of fight inevitably ensues and it/he flees and either goes rogue, possibly joining up with Tarantuals, or maybe joins up with the Maxis for a while until he/it/they inevitably betrays them when it is allowed onto the ark.

>>95296070
This is pretty damn good IMO.

>>95296743
I think Rattrap and Scorponok would hate eachother. Each embodies what a tie to what they don't want Dinobot to become, Maximal/Predicon. They could fight it out and come near killing each other before Dinobot intervenes and chooses to send them both on their way to their respective CR chambers.

Also, Scorponok could have a couple of those clone Dinobots (that couldnt transform) as pets/reminders of his lost friend. Then he could become close chums with Dinobot when he returns to the preds and the two could go hunting Rattrap.

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>>95292251
Yup. Some of them are the reissues though, my original Transmetal Rattrap's paint flaked off like a leper.

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>>95292251
>>95298949
And the big boys are on another shelf.

>>95292251
I have the guy posted in >>95277476 but being an idiot kid, I used to take off all the legs when I transformed it into robot mode and ended up losing some.

>>95278912
If they couldn't ditch Inferno at the end of season 2 they sure as hell weren't going to get away with it at the end of season 1. He was supposed to die at during The Agenda, but Hasbro refused to let a Mega sized toy be removed from the show.

>>95276456
I read that he was supposed to become transmetal in the show but the writers convinced Hasbro that fans loved him the way he was. Also possible that they realized Waspinator's character trait is being slagged and didn't want to have a new toy seem 'less cool' by being shown to be weak and destructable.

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>>95264431
Patrician taste.
>>95284975
Both.
>that massive height difference
Dayum.

>>95277539
If you keep an open mind about the outdated CGI looks, yes, it's absolutely worth watching.

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>>95300820

>>95283996
>Remember not liking the show as much as BW
>Check out the first episode
>20 minutes go by in a flash
Well shit, they still knew how to write even if the aesthetic looks gross.

>>95303848
>It's a "Scott Mcneil has a multiple personalitty disorder" episode

>>95283996
It was a garbage sequel, but it was a great show on its own merits. The first season was better though.

>>95303852
I remember the first time I watched it, I had a DVD volume of the first 6 episodes and I sat down and watched all 6 in one sitting because I wanted to find out what happened next every time one ended.

>>95304488
>Alien 3 apologists
Heinous to the max.

>>95298780
Was thinking of something similar too. Maybe after Tigerhawk blows up the Predacon base, Terrorsaur/Scorponok could emerge, in a similar fused state to Tigerhawk himself. They could have a conflicting dual personality (perhaps even switching faces a la Animated Blitzwing) thanks to Scorponok's loyalty and Terrorsaur's treachery, so neither side would know whether to trust him. He'd be powerful as fuck, but unlike Tigerhawk, hugely incompetent. This could also lead to the exploration of the concept of merged Sparks.
Rampage would also develop an interest in him, only to find out if it'd be possible to reforge his split Spark and be free of Megatron's torture. This whole idea could also tie into Rattrap's scrapped plotline of trying to bring Dinobot back. Except that he'd want to give Rampage's half Spark to Dinobot, not the other way around.
But you'd need an entire season 4 to make this all work, as well as a return to the more serious and continuous storytelling of season 2.

>>95305777
Or alternatively, ditch the whole fusion fuckery and just bring back Scorps and Terry proper. Scorponok would lose his faith in Megatron after seeing his failures, so he and the ousted Quickstrike would join Tarantulas as an arachnid-based faction. Terrorsaur would ironically be the one loyal to Megatron, and he'd do everything to keep him happy out of pure fear. Hilarity ensues.

My proposed idea of Rampage wanting to study fusions could still work with Tigerhawk, and bam, there you have a framework for season 4.

>>95298980
>Secret Wars Wolverine
>Toy Biz Cyclops and Magneto
Holy nostalgia

>>95304488
Sometimes I wish it was an original series

>>95298949
Nice
>Tripredicus
Man that thing was such a pain in the ass when I was a kid, I always had trouble transforming Ramhorn or whatever his name was

transmutate . . .

>>95308139
He will be missed.

And in Uprising he's a she. And a redeco of Prime Arcee to boot. Mentally a little less challenged, but this time cute and a One-Point-Percenter.

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>>95292251
Here's my Beast Wars shelf. Transmetal Airazor is behind the original Blackarachnia toy.

>>95309697
From the way it's positioned it looks like Waspinator has Silverbolts wings

>>95308574
In BW they were more she than he.

>>95309697
Why keep Rhinox's guns to the side?

>>95309941
I forgot how they store in beast mode.

>>95310043
http://www.unicron.com/tfitem/itemimage_view.php?mode=instructions&itemID=2466&imageID=6181

>>95306080
I honestly never researched those, I just found 'em at a flea market.
>>95307756
Confession time: I didn't have trouble with it simply because I was a late teen when I bought it used. A lot of my collection is from flea markets and yard sales in various states of completeness.

>>95310073
Thanks dude.

>>95271246
>>95271239
>>95271221
>>95276749

Buy the amazing third party perfect effects optimal optimus and masterpiece BW figures then you whiny poorfaggots.

>>95304488
Beast Machines was hurt by airing weekly. It's made to be marathon viewed.

>>95311099
lord no

>>95309882
Really? Always thought he was more of a he.

>>95312518
>Also from the episode script comes this character description in the cast listing section: TRANSMUTATE: a being with no beauty of form nor logic of shape, massive, made of unmatched parts: bits of Predacon, pieces of Maximal, chunks of Fuzor and Transmetal, heavy-duty weapons, and a face that vaguely indicates it is female. This wording lends some credence to the fan notion that Transmutate was originally a female Protoform. However, Transmutate is consistently referred to within the script using genderless pronouns, confusing the issue.
Also, voiced by a woman.

>>95312563
Darn, that's confusing.

>>95312634
It's really not.

>>95312717
For the inexperienced. But seriously, all that time I did think Transmutate was male.

Good you corrected me.

>>95311099
It's not to be viewed at all.

>>95312823
m8 what the fuck are you talking about. what does experience have to do with anything and that is this experience with

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>decide to watch Beast Wars because /co/ says it's good
>/co/ threads spoil me on Dinobot's death
>episode where he dies comes up
>can see it coming
>it hurts anyway

damn, /co/
you weren't kidding

>>95312515
>>95313242
Genwunners, please go.

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>>95313457
DINOBOTTU SAMURAI WARRIOR, DINOBOTTU RUV HONOR AND FIGHTING YESSU!

>>95267630

They totally got away with more violent stuff being robots. I really loved rampage. I mean a big damn crab tank horror freak. It was great.

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>>95284975
Best beast ship.

>>95316924
Stop ruining bromance with romance.

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>>95316924
Nah

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>>95316988
>implying their love isn't pure

>>95317061
Broship goes deeper than penises.

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>best ship that never happened

Look how she's clinging to Primal's leg, like she's posing for a Frazetta cover...

>>95305777

A gligar transformer sounds horrifying. I'd love too see a two headed robot. Like in the comic when megatron and Rachet fused. So sad we never got a season 4

>>95317673
>I'd love too see a two headed robot.

I remember seeing one as a background character in one of the first issues of MTMTE or RID, can't remember which.

It'd be neat.

Or bring back Doubleheader. Make his Pretender shell his robot mode.