August 2017 Comic Book Sales Report - Top 100's

> 57. SPIDER-MAN DEADPOOL #20 (MAR)
> 58. JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA #12 (DC)
> 59. SUICIDE SQUAD #24 (DC)
> 60. MISTER MIRACLE #1 (DC)
> 61. STAR WARS POE DAMERON #18 (MAR)
> 62. TEEN TITANS #11 (DC)
> 63. NIGHTWING #27 (DC)
> 64. JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA #13 (DC)
> 65. NIGHTWING THE NEW ORDER #1 (DC)
> 66. DEADPOOL #35 SE (MAR)
> 67. AVENGERS #10 (MAR)
> 68. HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS #26 (DC)
> 69. HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS #27 (DC)
> 70. DEFENDERS #4 (MAR)
> 71. VENOM #153 (MAR)
> 72. SPIDER-MAN #19 (MAR)
> 73. TRINITY #12 (DC)
> 74. GREEN LANTERNS #28 (DC)
> 75. GREEN LANTERNS #29 (DC)
> 76. DOCTOR STRANGE #24 (MAR)
> 77. AQUAMAN #27 (DC)
> 78. BATMAN THE SHADOW #5 (DC)
> 79. ALL NEW WOLVERINE #23 (MAR)
> 80. INVINCIBLE IRON MAN #10 (MAR)
> 81. SUPERGIRL #12 (DC)
> 82. ROBOTECH #1 (TTN)
> 83. GREEN ARROW #28 (DC)
> 84. GREEN ARROW #29 (DC)
> 85. THANOS #10 (MAR)
> 86. BLACK PANTHER #17 (MAR)
> 87. DAREDEVIL #25 (MAR)
> 88. RED HOOD AND THE OUTLAWS #13 (DC)
> 89. TOTALLY AWESOME HULK #22 (MAR)
> 90. UNCANNY AVENGERS #26 (MAR)
> 91. INFAMOUS IRON MAN #11 (MAR)
> 92. ALL NEW GUARDIANS OF GALAXY #7 (MAR)
> 93. CHAMPIONS #11 (MAR)
> 94. AMAZING SPIDER-MAN RENEW YOUR VOWS #10 (MAR)
> 95. DEATHSTROKE #22 (DC)
> 96. SEVEN TO ETERNITY #8 (IMA)
> 97. CABLE #4 (MAR)
> 98. TRUE BELIEVERS KIRBY 100TH INTRODUCING MIGHTY THOR #1 (MAR)
> 99. JUSTICE LEAGUE POWER RANGERS #5 (DC)
> 100. JESSICA JONES #11 (MAR)

>Among the premier publishers, Robert Kirkman and Charlie Adlard's The Walking Dead #170 was Image Comics' top book for August at #11. P. Craig Russell and Bo Hampton's Neil Gaiman's American Gods: Shadows #6 was Dark Horse Comics' top book #105. Finally, IDW Publishing's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles #73 was their top book at #158.


Sauce: https://www.previewsworld.com/Article/199508-Exclusive-Augusts-Top-100-Best-Selling-Comics

TOP 100 GRAPHIC NOVELS
Based on Total Unit Sales of Products Invoiced in August 2017
> 1. PAPER GIRLS TP VOL 03 (IMA)
> 2. BATMAN TP VOL 03 I AM BANE (REBIRTH) (DC)
> 3. GOD COUNTRY TP (MR) (IMA)
> 4. KILL OR BE KILLED TP VOL 02 (MR) (IMA)
> 5. WONDER WOMAN TP VOL 03 THE TRUTH (REBIRTH) (DC)
> 6. X-MEN GOLD TP VOL 01 BACK TO BASICS (MAR)
> 7. REBORN HC (MR) (IMA)
> 8. SUPERMAN TP VOL 03 MULTIPLICITY (REBIRTH) (DC)
> 9. OLD GUARD TP BOOK 01 OPENING FIRE (MR) (IMA)
> 10. X-MEN BLUE TP VOL 01 STRANGEST (MAR)
> 11. JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA TP VOL 01 THE EXTREMISTS (REBIRTH) (DC)
> 12. DEADPOOL VS PUNISHER TP (MAR)
> 13. JUPITERS LEGACY TP VOL 02 (MR) (IMA)
> 14. GREEN ARROW TP VOL 03 EMERALD OUTLAW (REBIRTH) (DC)
> 15. LOCKE & KEY HEAVEN & EARTH DLX HC ED (IDW)
> 16. WEAPON X TP VOL 01 WEAPONS OF MUTANT DESTRUCTION PRELUDE (MAR)
> 17. AQUAMAN TP VOL 03 CROWN OF ATLANTIS (REBIRTH) (DC)
> 18. SAGA TP VOL 01 (MR) (IMA)
> 19. MONSTRESS TP VOL 01 (MR) (IMA)
> 20. HAL JORDAN & THE GLC TP VOL 03 QUEST FOR HOPE (REBIRTH) (DC)
> 21. LOCKJAW DOG DAYS TP (MAR)
> 22. SAGA TP VOL 07 (MR) (IMA)
> 23. CAPTAIN AMERICA STEVE ROGERS TP VOL 03 EMPIRE BUILDING (MAR)
> 24. BATMAN REBIRTH DLX COLL HC BOOK 01 (DC)
> 25. DEADPOOL WORLDS GREATEST TP VOL 08 TIL DEATH DO US (MAR)
> 26. LEGEND OF ZELDA TWILIGHT PRINCESS GN VOL 02 (VIZ)
> 27. FLASH TP VOL 01 LIGHTNING STRIKES TWICE (REBIRTH) (DC)
> 28. PAPER GIRLS TP VOL 01 (IMA)
> 29. SH*T MY PRESIDENT SAYS ILLUSTRATED TWEETS OF DONALD TRUMP HC (IDW)
> 30. SUPER POWERS TP VOL 01 (DC)
> 31. NEW TEEN TITANS TP VOL 07 (DC)
> 32. TEEN TITANS EARTH ONE TP VOL 02 (DC)
> 33. HARLEYS LITTLE BLACK BOOK HC (DC)
> 34. DEADPOOL 2099 TP (MAR)
> 35. COLOR YOUR OWN MARVEL MASTERS TP (MAR)
> 36. PROVIDENCE LTD HC ACT 03 (MR) (AVA)
> 37. UNBELIEVABLE GWENPOOL TP VOL 03 TOTALLY IN CONTINUITY (MAR)
> 38. TOKYO GHOUL GN VOL 14 (VIZ)
> 39. ATTACK ON TITAN GN VOL 22 (RAN)
> 40. MONSTRESS TP VOL 02 (MR) (IMA)
> 41. MIGHTY CAPTAIN MARVEL TP VOL 01 ALIEN NATION (MAR)

> 42. SCOTT PILGRIM GN VOL 01 PRECIOUS LITTLE LIFE (ONI)
> 43. INFINITY GAUNTLET TP (MAR)
> 44. WATCHMEN TP (DC)
> 45. BATGIRL STEPHANIE BROWN TP VOL 01 (DC)
> 46. INVADER ZIM TP VOL 04 (ONI)
> 47. DARK HORSE BOOK OF HORROR HC (DAR)
> 48. BEAUTY TP VOL 03 (MR) (IMA)
> 49. RICK & MORTY TP VOL 01 (ONI)
> 50. SAGA TP VOL 02 (MR) (IMA)
> 51. ARCHIE TP VOL 04 (ARC)
> 52. PAPER GIRLS TP VOL 02 (IMA)
> 53. DOCTOR STRANGE/PUNISHER TP MAGIC BULLETS (MAR)
> 54. SAGA TP VOL 06 (MR) (IMA)
> 55. MY LITTLE PONY MOVIE PREQUEL TP (IDW)
> 56. CYBORG TP VOL 02 DANGER IN DETROIT (REBIRTH) (DC)
> 57. GUARDIANS OF GALAXY MOTHER ENTROPY TP (MAR)
> 58. COPPERHEAD TP VOL 03 (MR) (IMA)
> 59. HEATHEN TP VOL 01 (VAU)
> 60. UNSTOPPABLE WASP TP VOL 01 UNSTOPPABLE (MAR)
> 61. BATMAN THE KILLING JOKE SPECIAL ED HC (DC)
> 62. FEW TP (MR) (IMA)
> 63. ROCKET RACCOON GROUNDED TP (MAR)
> 64. BTVS SEASON 11 TP VOL 01 SPREAD OF EVIL (DAR)
> 65. BATMAN TP VOL 01 I AM GOTHAM (REBIRTH) (DC)
> 66. OTHER SIDE SPECIAL ED HC (MR) (IMA)
> 67. FLASHPOINT TP (DC)
> 68. PUNISHER MAX TP COMPLETE COLLECTION VOL 06 (MR) (MAR)
> 69. ALL NEW X-MEN INEVITABLE TP VOL 04 IVX (MAR)
> 70. RICK AND MORTY OFFICIAL COLORING BOOK (RAN)
> 71. ALIEN VS PREDATOR LIFE AND DEATH TP (MR) (DAR)
> 72. MMW AVENGERS HC VOL 17 (MAR)
> 73. SAGA TP VOL 03 (MR) (IMA)
> 74. ECLIPSE TP VOL 02 (IMA)
> 75. INTERNATIONAL IRON MAN TP (MAR)
> 76. SILK TP VOL 03 CLONE CONSPIRACY (MAR)
> 77. CALLA CTHULHU TP (DAR)
> 78. LOST BOYS TP (MR) (DC)
> 79. BLACK PANTHER HC VOL 01 A NATION UNDER OUR FEET (MAR)
> 80. PREACHER TP BOOK 01 (MR) (DC)
> 81. CAPTAIN AMERICA SAM WILSON TP VOL 05 END OF THE LINE (MAR)
> 82. LEGEND OF ZELDA LEGENDARY ED GN VOL 04 MINISH CAP & PHANTOM (VIZ)
> 83. WALKING DEAD TP VOL 01 DAYS GONE BYE (IMA)
> 84. BATMAN ARKHAM CLAYFACE TP (DC)
> 85. SNOTGIRL TP VOL 01 GREEN HAIR DONT CARE (IMA)
> 86. MMW SAVAGE SHE-HULK HC VOL 01 (MAR)
> 87. SEVEN TO ETERNITY TP VOL 01 (IMA)
> 87. WOLVERINE OLD MAN LOGAN TP (MAR)

> 89. SAGA TP VOL 05 (MR) (IMA)
> 90. BATMAN THE GOLDEN AGE TP VOL 03 (DC)
> 91. MYSTERY KNIGHT GN (RAN)
> 92. COMPLETE ELFQUEST TP VOL 04 (DAR)
> 93. JACK KIRBY FANTASTIC FOUR WORLDS GREATEST ARTIST ED HC (IDW)
> 94. MY HERO ACADEMIA GN VOL 09 (VIZ)
> 95. CAPTAIN MARVEL TP VOL 04 EARTHS MIGHTIEST HERO (MAR)
> 96. SANDMAN TP VOL 01 PRELUDES & NOCTURNES NEW ED (MR) (DC)
> 97. ONE PIECE GN VOL 83 (VIZ)
> 98. MONSTERS HC VOL 02 MARVEL MONSTERBUS BY LEE LIEBER KIRBY (MAR)
> 99. SAGA TP VOL 04 (MR) (IMA)
> 100. SUPERMAN TP VOL 02 TRIALS OF THE SUPER SON (REBIRTH) (DC)


SAUCE: https://www.previewsworld.com/Article/199511-Exclusive-Augusts-Top-100-Best-Selling-Graphic-Novels

>>95235826
>81. SUPERGIRL #12 (DC
Wasn't this out of the top 100 for months? What's up with boost?

Wait, don't tell me it was because of the variant cover?

>>95235824
So, how many of the Marvel titles among the top 10 got a little help from Dobson?

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>Buying Marvel comics

Why is it always the crossover events that sell the most? They're always horrible but people eat them up so they keep making them.

Batman>Marvel
And we back to normal, bois.

>>95236145
>don't tell me it was because of the variant cover
OK, I won't, but you already know the answer.

>>95236283
Because they're "important." People don't buy cape comics because of quality, they do it because "muh shared universe." The more something affects that shared universe, the more it'll sell regardless of quality.

>>95236145
>the variant cover?
What variant?

>>95236145
Fapping cover

>>95235824
>> 44. HARLEY QUINN #25 (DC)
>> 49. HARLEY QUINN #26 (DC)

HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHA

>>95236866
That's around where she always is. I don't understand reacting.

>>95236885
She's actually around 38-44 rank, falling into 49 is something to laugh at

>>95236901
You can't look only at rank that far down because the chunk of 30-50k books is so large. She is grouped with the same ongoings. It's likely not significant.

I don't care though, would be good if she did start to fall out of favor. Maybe Palmiotti would go back to writing with Gray.

Jesus Christ, how the hell did those terrible Generations books did so well? The only good one was the Wolverine issue. The rest fucking SUCKED.

>>95236957
I've been following the book sales for months in this threads and I can tell that the falling is significant. The book must be selling below the 35k mark by now

>>95235824
>4. SECRET EMPIRE #10 (MAR)
> 5. GENERATIONS WOLVERINE & ALL-NEW WOLVERINE #1 (MAR)
> 6. SECRET EMPIRE #8 (MAR)
> 7. SECRET EMPIRE #9 (MAR)
> 8. GENERATIONS UNWORTHY THOR & MIGHTY THOR #1 (MAR)
> 9. STAR WARS #34 (MAR)
> 10. STAR WARS #35 (MAR)
thanks for showing up DC it's no fun winning if there are no losers and you guys are definitely losers

>>95237019
Regular bat issues about a flashback story beat a Marvel event. I wouldnt be laughing.

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>>95235824
>X-Men already below Flash and Superman with Astonishing on the way
Called it, RessurXion barely even had the staying power of Rebirth.

>Spectacular DOA
Also called it

>Generations doing good
This I didn't count on but I'm not putting past Marvel overshipping these so let's see when the Dollar Ranks come out

>Spider-Men II, Edge of Venom Verse, Deadpool Kills Again flopping
Hilarious.

>Mister Miracle flopping
Not Hilarious, nut at least we can confirm that it's probably gonna be good though.

>Deathstroke still at Top 100 after already falling below a few months back
Ok, there might be a God still.

>Spider-Man RYV close to leaving Top 100
>YFW people though OnSlott's reign was over now that we have the "REAL" Peter Parker back
Pic Related

>>95236145
>>95236373
Artgerm took up cover duties for 12 onwards, he has a pretty big following I guess.

>>95237035
Yes, Batman sells. A Batman arc involving Joker and Riddler managed to top the month but the rest of DC(including other batman related spin offs) were smelling Marvel's ass. Considering DC seriously can't sell anything except Batman then I wouldn't be laughing either.

>>95236901
>5 Generations One shots
If you subtract 5 you'd get those rankings.

>>95236981
I'm guessing overshipping, but don't rule out nostalgia since OG Thor, Hulk, and Wolverine are there and they've been gone for a while.... well not for Hulk.

>>95237087
Deathstroke has been stable since the crossover. Move the monthly has helped.

>>95237149
Move TO monthly*

I'm retarded

>>95237019
Why do you keep baiting this? Other than Star Wars, none of those have staying power at all. Literally all of Marvel's offerings that wasn't an event have all fell down the Top Ten like a brick the month after. RessurXion is already below Superman same with Spectacular. Literally the only ongoings Marvel has that are above Superman is Astonishing X-Men which is already on the road to slide down, Inhumans which is definitely gonna bomb hard the next month, and Spider-Slott who looks like he's gonna be overtaken by The Flash now that he's already overtaken by Batwoman and Friends.

>>95237087
>Mister Miracle flopping
Just two days ago someone was arguing with me that Kong's name is a draw.

>>95237196
>Kong's
I don't know why my phone refuse to acknowledge the name *King.

>>95237212
>>95237196
King is sorta getting there. It's better than Omega Men's debut it did do better than the Jack Kirby one shots.

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>>95237212
I thought you were just shitposting like /sp/

>>95237196
>>95237228
To be fair it sold out and it's heading for another printing and it did debut much better than all his previous comics save for Batman. But it's pretty telling that DC can't even get the hottest new writer in comics' new title to debut in the top 25 while Marvel can get any piece of shit in the top 5, even Iron Fist debuted at 5 and you can't argue that ti was live action boost because his show was universally panned.

>>95236901
99% of the market would kill for those numbers

>>95237299
But she's falling, every month she fall deeper into the rankings. It isn't good those numbers if the book can't maintain it

>>95236981
Over shipping.

>>95237196
Yeah, I am really surprised about Mister Miracle

How much Vision sold las year?

>>95237324
Marvel still do that? It would explain why some of their books still in top 100 despite the lack of interest.

>>95237272
>and you can't argue that ti was live action boost because his show was universally panned

Except we can because the FOC date on that #1 was before the reviews were released. Stores ordered because they expected a boost in interest because of Netflix. They did not know the show was shit at the time.

I think ultimately 20-30k range for most of the MM issues should be fine, but yeah that #1 you'd want to peak higher, at least 70k.

>>95237366
Yes the dollar and unit numbers are still too far off. They are definitely overshipping.

RETAIL MARKET SHARE
PUBLISHER SHARE
MARVEL COMICS 35.01%
DC ENTERTAINMENT 28.18%
IMAGE COMICS 10.06%
IDW PUBLISHING 4.81%
DARK HORSE COMICS 3.16%
DYNAMITE ENTERTAINMENT 2.50%
BOOM! STUDIOS 2.19%
TITAN COMICS 1.48%
VIZ MEDIA 1.42%
ONI PRESS INC. 1.28%
OTHER NON-TOP 10 9.91%

UNIT MARKET SHARE
PUBLISHER SHARE
MARVEL COMICS 39.52%
DC ENTERTAINMENT 31.09%
IMAGE COMICS 9.23%
IDW PUBLISHING 3.69%
DYNAMITE ENTERTAINMENT 3.58%
DARK HORSE COMICS 2.18%
BOOM! STUDIOS 1.88%
TITAN COMICS 1.25%
ONI PRESS INC. 0.82%
VALIANT ENTERTAINMENT LLC 0.77%
OTHER NON-TOP 10 5.98%

>>95237322
>falling ever month deeper into the rankings
She's been consistently between 30-50, only going above 40 if there's been a surge of big releases (Generations for this month). You've been laughing at her being somewhere near 40 for months anon.

>>95237322
Anon , ALL titles fall month to month.

It's called standard attrition, unless you are Batman , that's the rule for absolutely every title on the Big 2

Indies also follow that rule, but there are exceptions like Saga and Walking dead

>>95237087
>Mister Miracle flopping
Well, at least it has done better than new order. I still don't understand why they thought it's good idea to give Nighwing a mini series.

>>95237386
Freaking Marvel. Why they keep getting away with it?

>>95237369
Advance reviews for the show came in before and everyone was outraged by the """whitewashing""" anyway.

>>95237397
actually, it did sell out. DC may have just lowballed how it was gonna do. More or less they're counting more on it being a trade seller..... plus only King books that flop are worth reading

>>95237386
>RETAIL MARKET SHARE
>MARVEL COMICS 35.01%
>DC ENTERTAINMENT 28.18%

>UNIT MARKET SHARE
>MARVEL COMICS 39.52%
>DC ENTERTAINMENT 31.09%


Looks like 4% for Marvel and 3% for DC.

>>95235824
>4. SECRET EMPIRE #10 (MAR)
Are marvelfags retarded?

>>95237415
Most people don't care about very early rumor stuff, the official review embargo did not lift until after the orders for the #1 were in.

And you see a bump in sales numbers for floppies because stores anticipate that their current readers will want to pick it up. It's not about those normies who care about race nonsense, those people get into comics with trades not floppies.

>>95237418
You mean MM? I know about that and the word of mouth seem to getting people interested in it.

I'm talking about New Order. I noticed a lack of interest from fans despite the forced controversy.

How good are the star wars books anyway? It's always on the top 10.

>>95236981
>Terrible
Okay.

>>95237465
Tumblords are actually hating how Dick is fascist here.... except I've read it and he's not really a fascist.

>>95237465
A Dick Elseworlds could have worked, but nothing about what they said made it seem appealing at all. And keeping the child's mother as a mystery to us was a mistake because you don't even get the shipper dollars.

>>95237478
Well, it's not like Tumblr make a big market of comic sales so I don't think that they are the reason on why fans aren't interested in it.

>>95235824
>> 8. GENERATIONS UNWORTHY THOR & MIGHTY THOR #1 (MAR)
Really? But it was so bad.

>>95237521
Thorfags love buying bad comics

>>95237530
Just checked the whole list, most of the generation books sold pretty well. Is this the power of #1 sales? Also why are people buying it when Marvel literally said they weren't doing " time travel shenanigans" for generations and then proceeded to do time travel shenanigans..

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>>95237390
>>95237391
>>95237322
You're making it sound like she's having a total nose dive. She falls like 3-5 places from her original position, which can easily be explained with Marvel releasing another book to push her down some more.

>>95237464
>Most people don't care about very early rumor stuff
You might as well say nobody cares about reviews then. Those that do look up advance reviews too.

>>95237555
It's look like no matter how many times Marvel use the #1 cheap trick, their audience fall for it every single time.

Don't ask me why they are obsessed with #1 because I have no idea.

>>95237559
I hate how you idiots always tries to excuse the book shit-ass sales, "oh it's because it's Marvel and all those #1" "because the month have been slow/fast" "It is normal for that to happen". The fact is that the book have been losing readers more and more per month, it absolute failed at keeping the readers interested and enthusiasm and that's a fact. There's not other reason than the book being shit and hardly readable

>>95237630
It literally how books work. They sell less and less each month. The fact how it's staying on that ground far longer when most books have slid past it like hot butter is a testament to it.

>>95237630
>shit-ass sales
Aaaaalrighty then

>>95237008
There were a ton of Generations and other Marvel One-Shots this month to push it down in ranking. Unless you're privy to the actual sales figures, I don't see a big decline here.

But don't get me wrong that series is cancer and the creators should've been replaced years ago.

>>95237019
It's unsustainable.
A few years ago the last issue of a Marvel Event would have done numbers four times as big, been number one by a mile, in anticipation of what earth-shaking revelation would happen.
Now it's only good enough for #4.

Star Wars used to be neck-and-neck with Batman for biggest ongoing. Now Batman doubles it up nearly, no problem. (Even King's mediocre Batman!)

Generations and Legacy are dead on arrival. These were supposed to be chart-toppers. Care to guess how quickly the Legacy rebranding will wear off this fall? I bet the sales bump doesn't last more than 2-3 issues.

And every time Marvel shakes it up like this they risk losing more reader than they gain short term.

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>entire marvel roster can't outsell Batman and his 90s-tier event comics

Inb4 le market share statistics

>>95237019
Eh, it's not good if you think about it, Marvel's big summer event got beaten by regular batbook and DC event and that the only time they can hit top ten is when they're releasing #1s or starwars. This brings the question if they can sustain this when they go back to their original numbering.

>>95237630
goddamnit anon, you just made me fucking compile every single one of your "HAHA HARLEY IS GONNA DROP OUT THE TOP 50 NEXT MONTH FOR SURE POST" I hope you're fucking proud.

>>95237386
That's not how it works. That's on Diamond's end only. If Marvel wants to ship 15% extra copies of a Generations one-shot, Diamond will still count those copies toward the money share. Because Diamond is getting compensated from Marvel.

>>95237474
They started out good but have been terrible since summer '15. Main title sales have fallen off tremendously, but everything else is falling off faster so it still looks good.

>>95237792
>money share
Just the unit share. You're not wrong with your thinking though, the discounted copies do still pool in the dollar share full price.

>>95235838
>SHUT UP ABOUT "MS MARVEL", "SQUIRREL GIRL" and "MOON GIRL" SALES, /CO/!
>THEY SELL GREAT IN TRADE, /CO/! THEIR TPB'S ARE SECRETLY FLYING OFF THE SHELVES!

Not even ranked. Not ever ranked.

>Superman regularly outselling all X-Men titles.
Not since the early 1970s has this happened. Not in 40+ years?!!?

>>95237019
>multiple issues of 2 different Marvel events cant outsell regular Batman books
This is a phyrric victory at the very least. On top of that, Secret Empire is already over, so next month that list is gonna have even less Marvel on it.

>>95237864
Ms Marvel and Squirrel Girl do show up in the full-year bookscan lists. Moon Girl did last year too.

But Kamala does worse with every volume, so the excuse might be drying up.

>>95238012
And this being said, I think Kamala's floppies are still doing ok. Moon Girl and Squirrel Girl should just go full OGN but maybe Marvel just sees them like DC sees the Looney Tunes and Scooby Doo books and it doesn't matter.

King barely sells, anon. They had to rescue his Omega Men comic from cancellation, Vision was selling very low.

>>95238054
Vision was around 18-20k which wasn't enough to get it cancelled the way the market has been in recent years. I'd agree that King isn't a draw though. Johns and Snyder are basically the only writers who can sell based on who they are.

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>>95237630
I'm sure one day it's gonna FINALLY REALLY drop off the Top 50 next month anon.

>>95238184
Good compilation, I give you that but the first lost ain't mine, I never said that at most I said that by the end of the year the book.would be below the 30k, I'm not stupid enough to think that the book would drop that fast in so little time

>>95238249
It's still at high 30s, it's possible for it to slip below 30K the next year though. It's still losing at minimum 1K an issue so it's not far-off. Speaking of losing, Action Comics apparently loses like around 500 units per issue at most, what the fuck. That's pretty steady.

>>95238361
Based Jurgens

>>95237555
Nice trips.

I'm guessing the majority doesn't follow all comic book news closely enough, and maybe even solicits, and thought the real characters were coming back? Also definitely overshipping.

>Batman plows everything again
How does he do it?

>>95238086
>Vision enjoyed healthy sales through it's publication
Based Marvel for keeping this GOAT series going while King's other comics have all died fast(except Batman because Batman). Truly Marvel is both good at sustaining sales for their smaller titles and outright putting out better product(Vision is still King's best). They have their faults with shit like Squirrel Girl and stuff but all in all BASED FUCKING MARVEL!

>>95239131

Tons of nerds buying multiple copies of each issue who think a comic with a print run north of 100k will appreciate in value.

>>95239179
>King's other comics have all died fast
Anon, don't make stuff up

>>95237019
BASED MARVEL

>>95239418
Spencer is that you?

>>95238249
that's you, it's alwyas you. Just be patient cause they're right, the sales are dropping at a rate of 800 by month more or less so someday.

>>95235826
> 60. MISTER MIRACLE #1 (DC)

The #1 DC meme is dead. Reboot soon.

>>95236981
There are stacks of them just sitting at my LCS. The numbers are really fucky this month. Marvel shipped 30% more books, but are only ahead by 7% in unit share

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>>95237474
Art's shit

>>95237864
It's only like the first volumes of Ms. Marvel (the first, not the post-SW relaunched) and Squirrel Girl that "sell" anyway.

>>95241015
This piece of shit couldn't even be bothered to draw the pasta in a different way. He traced the pasta down to the single noodle.

Who the fuck did this? Was it Greg Land?

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>>95235824
>Astonishing outselling the Priest Shithumans mini
WE DID IT X-BROS

>>95237474
Vader and Lando were great, everything else ranges from mediocre to shit.

>>95237630
>the book have been losing readers more and more per month
That's every single comic book ever, until the next event/crossover/reboot/creative team change.

>>95235826
>60. MISTER MIRACLE #1 (DC)
KINGFAGS AND MATURESHITTERS BTFO

>>95238086
>Johns and Snyder are basically the only writers who can sell based on who they are.
This is fucking depressing.

>>95237087
>>95237196
>>95237212
>>95237228
>>95237272
>>95237369
>>95237397
>>95237415
>>95237418
>>95238054
>>95238086
>>95239179
https://twitter.com/RyanHigginsRyan/status/905228366684372992

>>95241372
I don't know what you trying to accomplish by linking this because it was already stated multiple times that the book done better than it was expected thanks to the word of mouth.

It doesn't change the fact that King isn't a draw, though.

>>95241372
KIDF on high alert

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>>95241093
I honestly can't tell you, because Marvel has stuck all of their "GREAT TALENT" on the books over the years. Cassaday was on it first, except it was Nu-Cassaday, and he has been slipping for years. Then Deodato was on it for a bit, and it was obvious that he was just tracing/photoshoping over Battlefront models.

Gillen's Vader was quite good, but the art took a dip every time that Salvador Larroca was absent.

>>95241527
>KIDF
??

>>95241369
Even Snyder is debatable since I don't think he's done it with anything that isn't Batman. But there is room for debate.

>>95242512
His Vertigo miniseries (The Wake) was selling 22K when it finished, which is insane for a Vertigo book.
His American Vampire was also consistently over 12K

>>95237019
You do realize that two of those Marvel books are one-shots and three of those are the concluding issue to an event, right? Unless you were being sarcastic?

>>95242512
He did Superman Unchained that sold better than the main books at the time IIRC.

>>95237087
>>95237397
>>95237418
It's not DC lowballing on Mister Miracle, it was retailers. Remember that Mr. Miracle isn't an A-list character and people usually order less of such characters unless there's a huge buzz around it. Once stores were reporting sellouts they went back for another printing. People forget that these charts are based on preorders by retailers.

>>95235824
>have only Batman in the top 10
>the top spot belongs to an issue 1 event comic
Really makes you think

>>95235824
>people STILL think it matters when a book is in the "top 100"

Anons, for the last time, if sales for the higher up books suck or there are any higher selling books that didn't come out that month, then books that sell lower will get up into the top 100, even if they lost units from the month before.

>>95242662
That comic industry surviving depends on the collectors and the batfans?

>>95242622
Plus, King has never actually been a high seller:
11/15 Vision # 1- 42,119
12/15 Vision # 2 - 36,107 (-14.3%)
01/16 Vision # 3 - 34,807 (- 3.6%)
02/16 Vision # 4 - 19,070 (-45.2%)
03/16 Vision #5 - 18,636 (- 2.3%)
04/16 Vision #6 - 19,028 (+ 2.1%)
05/16 Vision #7 - 19,623 (+ 3.1%)
06/16 Vision #8 - 22,460 (+14.5%)
07/16 Vision #9 - 20,785 (- 7.5%)
08/16 Vision #10- 20,523 (- 1.3%)
09/16 Vision #11- 20,142 (- 1.9%)
10/16 Vision #12- 19,840 (- 1.5%) END

06/2015: Omega Men #1 -- 33,174 [28,446] *
07/2015: Omega Men #2 -- 17,093 (- 39.9%)
08/2015: Omega Men #3 -- 13,246 (- 22.5%)
09/2015: Omega Men #4 -- 11,302 (- 14.7%)
10/2015: Omega Men #5 -- 10,532 (- 6.8%)
11/2015: Omega Men #6 -- 9,709 (- 7.8%)
12/2015: Omega Men #7 -- 9,251 (- 4.7%)
01/2016: Omega Men #8 -- 8,864 (- 4.2%)
02/2016: --
03/2016: Omega Men #9 -- 8,727 (- 1.5%)
03/2016: Omega Men #10 -- 8,366 (- 4.1%)
04/2016: Omega Men #11 -- 8,281 (- 1.0%)
05/2016: Omega Men #12 -- 8,218 (- 0.8%)

12/2015: Sheriff of Babylon #1 of 8 -- 10,234
01/2016: Sheriff of Babylon #2 of 8 -- 7,063 (- 31.0%)
02/2016: Sheriff of Babylon #3 of 8 -- 6,385 (- 9.6%)
03/2016: Sheriff of Babylon #4 of 8 -- 6,007 (- 5.9%)
04/2016: Sheriff of Babylon #5 of 12 -- 5,810 (- 3.3%)
05/2016: Sheriff of Babylon #6 of 12 -- 5,615 (- 3.4%)
06/2016: Sheriff of Babylon #7 of 12 -- 5,714 (+ 1.8%)
07/2016: Sheriff of Babylon #8 of 12 -- 5,680 (- 0.6%)
08/2016: Sheriff of Babylon #9 of 12 -- 5,587 (- 1.6%)
09/2016: Sheriff of Babylon #10 of 12 -- 5,290 (- 5.3%)
10/2016: Sheriff of Babylon #11 of 12 -- 5,177 (- 2.1%)
11/2016: Sheriff of Babylon #12 of 12 -- 5,241 (+ 1.2%)

>>95239418
I just collect Joker, thank you very much

>>95242662
>top 20 is basically the marvel and batman show

really puts things into perspective

>>95241101
Lol

>>95242309
King IDF
exhibit A
>>95242769

>>95241101
>a book outselling Priest's books

To be expected

His Black Panther is probably the only thing of his that ever sold well

>>95242844
Pointing out shit sales is a defender? Okay buddy

>>95238361
Something steady in recent years? Detective comics doesn't count, Action comics was Reborn like Wonder Woman. Do you know how much does a normal book lose by month? What about a not so normal book like Dead pool?

>>95242844
You're an idiot.

>>95239131
Prep time

>>95235824

So take away the event's and the ones the top 10 would be

1. Batman #28
2. Batman #29
3. Star Wars #34
4. Star Wars #35
5. Walking Dead #170
6. Darth Vader #4
7. All Star Batman #13
8. Detective Comics #962
9. ASM # 31
10. Flash #28

This industry is a joke

>>95236901

No it's not you cretin since Marvel released a shit load of one shots. Her actual numbers will have barely changed

>>95243940
>removing Mace Windu

why

>>95243940
Remove all plebshit and this is the top 10
>1. ROBOTECH #1 (TTN)
That's not too bad.

>>95243991

It's a 1

>>95243991
It's a debut issue

>>95243940

Somebody do without batbooks and Star Wars

>>95244109
without batbooks and star wars

>1. DARK NIGHTS METAL #1 (DC)
>2. SECRET EMPIRE #10 (MAR)
>3. GENERATIONS WOLVERINE & ALL-NEW WOLVERINE #1 (MAR)
>4. SECRET EMPIRE #8 (MAR)
>5. SECRET EMPIRE #9 (MAR)
>6. GENERATIONS UNWORTHY THOR & MIGHTY THOR #1 (MAR)
>7. WALKING DEAD #170 (MR) (IMA)
>8. GENERATIONS BANNER HULK & TOTALLY AWESOME HULK #1 (MAR)
>9. GENERATIONS PHOENIX & JEAN GREY #1 (MAR)
>10. AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #31 (MAR)

without batbooks, star wars, #1s, and events

>1. WALKING DEAD #170 (MR) (IMA)
>2. AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #31 (MAR)
>3. FLASH #28 (DC)
>4. FLASH #29 (DC)
>5. ASTONISHING X-MEN #2 (MAR)
>6. JUSTICE LEAGUE #26 (DC)
>7. JUSTICE LEAGUE #27 (DC)
>8. SUPERMAN #29 (DC)
>9. SUPERMAN #28 (DC)
>10. X-MEN GOLD #9 (MAR)

>>95244109
Okay.

> 11. WALKING DEAD #170 (MR) (IMA)
> 18. AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #31 (MAR)
> 19. FLASH #28 (DC)
> 21. FLASH #29 (DC)
> 22. ASTONISHING X-MEN #2 (MAR)
> 23. JUSTICE LEAGUE #26 (DC)
> 25. JUSTICE LEAGUE #27 (DC)
> 26. SUPERMAN #29 (DC)
> 27. SUPERMAN #28 (DC)
> 29. X-MEN GOLD #9 (MAR)

And if you're one of those who thinks Justice League counts as a Batbook, then:


> 11. WALKING DEAD #170 (MR) (IMA)
> 18. AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #31 (MAR)
> 19. FLASH #28 (DC)
> 21. FLASH #29 (DC)
> 22. ASTONISHING X-MEN #2 (MAR)
> 26. SUPERMAN #29 (DC)
> 27. SUPERMAN #28 (DC)
> 29. X-MEN GOLD #9 (MAR)
> 31. X-MEN GOLD #10 (MAR)
> 32. WONDER WOMAN #28 (DC)

>>95244207

>X-Men already below Superman

Great work Ike

>>95244207
JL is a Batbook

>>95244238
His work is complete.

>>95244239
one of those, huh

>>95244263

Nah that was another guy. Thanks for doing that anon. JL is not a Batbook

>>95244236
Isn't Superman a batbook though? He was featured prominently, I think it should count as one.

>>95244411
This
Batman showed up in that arc about Jon and Damian

>>95244411
Tripdubs confirms, Superman is a Batbook.

> 11. WALKING DEAD #170 (MR) (IMA)
> 18. AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #31 (MAR)
> 19. FLASH #28 (DC)
> 21. FLASH #29 (DC)
> 22. ASTONISHING X-MEN #2 (MAR)
> 29. X-MEN GOLD #9 (MAR)
> 31. X-MEN GOLD #10 (MAR)
> 32. WONDER WOMAN #28 (DC)
> 33. SPIDER-MEN II #2 (MAR)
> 34. SAGA #46 (MR) (IMA)

>>95235824
>>95235826
Shit, GotG #8 is already out of the Top 100. Even with a blockbuster this summer, Bendis managed to kill that franchise

>>95244634
At the end of the day, with the Button being so prominent, isn't the Flash also a Batbook?

>People are unhappy that Batman outsells their favorite hero/comic
>They probably don't buy any comics themselves to begin with
Speak with your money plebs. I support the comics I like, even if I don't always have the money to consistently buy every month

>>95236981
There's piles of them everywhere at my store. They bought as many issues for generation titles as they would new issues of Saga or batman.

>>95244971
>GotG under Bendis
>sells great
>is shit
>GotG under Duggan
>sells shit
>is great

>Inhumans under Soule
>is mediocre
>sells mediocre
>Inhumans under Ewing
>is great
>sells like hot trash

Why are quality and sales so often inverse of each other?

>>95245348
If you lose the audience the first time around they're reluctant to come back even with a new writer.

>>95245332
Man, that's weird. I feel like even Marvel gave up on Generations being anything more than a handful of forgettable throwaway, barely canon one-shots.

>>95236981
These are preorders. There were probably retailers out there who were hoping Generations would be a shot in the arm, but going by what a lot of people were saying, it's not.

>>95244992
Sorry Marvel intern, it doesn't work that way.

>>95235838
gwenpool vol 03 is selling well to today marvel

>>95237397
New orders actually pretty well done so far.

>>95237597
But you don't get it Mr. Krabs. HE WAS NUMBER ONE!

>>95235838
>> 32. TEEN TITANS EARTH ONE TP VOL 02 (DC)
lmao when did this come out
DC needs to advertise these more

Also do you think Lemire will get TTEO vol 3 since he has an ongoing at DC again?

>>95244263
>>95244411
You don't call it Detective Comics Comics for no reason.

>>95235826
Suicide Squad and Poe Dameron sold 35k last month so Mister Miracle #1 had about that many preorders.

>>95245348
>>GotG under Duggan
>>is great
Alright memer.

>>95245707
>TEEN TITANS EARTH ONE TP VOL 02 (DC)
I didn't even notice either that it come out.

Freaking DC and their poor excuse for marketing.

>>95246157
>>95245707
I think the hardcover was out before

>>95246352
Wasn't even sure it existed int he first place since Lemire went over to marvel.

>>95246554
It wasn't really promoted that well desu.

>>95246554
That contract was done before he went exclusive

>>95246637
Yeah and DC wasn't very good at communicating that or advertising the second volume

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>>95235824
>> 1. DARK NIGHTS METAL #1 (DC)
>> 2. BATMAN #28 (DC)
>> 3. BATMAN #29 (DC)
Just three, but in the top. That's fine.

>>95235824
> 2. BATMAN #28 (DC)
> 3. BATMAN #29 (DC)
> 11. WALKING DEAD #170 (MR) (IMA)
> 15. ALL STAR BATMAN #13 (DC)
> 17. DETECTIVE COMICS #962 (DC)
> 18. AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #31 (MAR)
> 19. FLASH #28 (DC)
> 20. DETECTIVE COMICS #963 (DC)
> 21. FLASH #29 (DC)
> 22. ASTONISHING X-MEN #2 (MAR)
The top 10 if you take out events, number #'1 and Star Wars. aka what's keeping Marvel afloat

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>>95242932
It's been months since Reborn. The fact that Action Comics maintained the boost it gave for is something and with Oz Effect this month it's getting another boost. It took 4 months for it to finally dip back to Pre-Reborn numbers when at best, after a huge crossover a book gets like a month before slipping down below to their pre-crossover/event numbers.

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>>95249041
like an idiot I forgot to post the Pre-Reborn numbers

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>>95249108
>>95249041
The only other book that managed to maintain their crossover bump numbers is Deathstroke, the fact that it's still there on the Top 100 makes me think it still lost fairly low

>>95249228
To be fair it actually gets promoted by DC now in floppies, on their twitter, on their facebook etc.

>>95241484
>It doesn't change the fact that King isn't a draw, though.

or Mr. Miracle isn't a draw

>>95243940
Batman vs Star Wars: Dawn of The zombies ft. Spider-Man and Flash.

>>95249385
None of the New Gods are a draw. Unless you count Darkseid.

>>95248374
>Spider-Man and the X-Men are the only things keeping Marvel steady
It's like we never left the 90's

>>95249799
>X-Men
Astonishing is only that high becasue it's still only issue #2. By next issue even that'll fall below Justice League and Superman.

>>95249765
>none of the New Gods are a draw
>Darkseid is only trotted out to be a Superman villain or Grant Morrison's Satan-analogue
>the New Genesis crew gets a fraction of appearances that Team Apokalips gets unless they're Orion, Mr. Miracle, or Barda, and MM and Barda are a matching set

Fucking hell.

If anything, I think DC should partner with a Japanese media company to do a full New Gods anime/manga franchise. It's already got all the shit it needs to be a shonen franchise and random shmucks from Earth being caught up in 4th World intrigue, playing important roles, and apotheosizing into New Gods has been built into the source material from the beginning. Why not have some Japanese high school loser have his life turned upside down when ORION, DOG OF WAR, crashes into his house and draws him into intergalactic conflict.

>>95237864
Anon, Superman will outsell all X-Men team titles very soon.
>>95250207

>>95237130
That's because Marvel overships. Go to your local comic shops and let them tell you how much they love having stacks of comics they can't sell.

>>95235824
>Event books selling well
And people wonder why they keep getting published.

>>95252169
>well

They're getting their ass beat by fucking normal issues of Batman.

>>95236283
>Buy a regular comic book
>nothing happens
>next issue: something happens! We promise!

>>95252193

DC has an event at the top spot. Difference is DC doesn't have big events often so people care more when they do

>>95235824
How come has Flash been consistently outselling Superman?

>>95235824
>7 DC books in top 20
>6 are Batman books

Same old same old

>>95252442

The show is very popular. I remember reading something saying that the people who watch cape shows are more dedicated and more likely to go onto comics than those who just watch films.

>>95252469

Batman has actual fans that want to read about him and doesn't require gimmick shit to sell. If only more heroes had the appeal. Spider-Man sure as fuck doesn't anymore.

>>95252442
The TV show. Didn't Superman get a boost while Smallville was going on? Supes took the top spot the month MoS came out. People get interested in reading comics after seeing characters in cartoons, movies, games, etc. Batman has been a huge fucking benefactee of this, he's the only one who gets any real focus in outside media these days, aside from Flash, and sporadically Supes and WW.

>>95237463
You answer your own question.

>>95252531
>Spider-Man sure as fuck doesn't anymore.
Because of OnSlott and declining quality of recent adaptations.

>>95237019
>Star Wars
>#1
>Event
>overshipping
thanks for showing up shill

>>95252469
This.

>>95237087
I guess King doesn't have the star power DC thought he had.

>Deathstroke still at Top 100 after already falling below a few months back
Probably has to do with Priest making an interesting story with a character normies like.

>>95237087
RYV doesn't mean anything now that Conway is leaving.

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>>95245348
Bendis managed to kill any interest in GotG, even the Bendis fans who liked it in the beginning hated it towards the end and the sales numbers started reflecting that.

I bet that's also partially why Bendis jumped ship (the other being that he probably wasn't that much into GotG and had more interest in doing Defenders and another Jessica Jones comic).

Duggan is got the attention of some of the older Cosmic fans and Rich fans but who knows if that will be enough.

>>95252442
Show plus the connection with the whole Button thing.

>>95258904
I'm tempted to at last give it a shot, he seems to be putting some effort, bringing in Darkhawk and Rich, apparently trying to fix Groot and stuff... but I heard the characterization is still somewhat off, like movie Rocket, Gamora and stuff.
I also wonder if the "All-New, All-Different" in the book title isn't sales poison, specially of late.

>>95258723
What do you think of the Stegman-written issues? Do you prefer them to Jody Houser's entire bibliography?

>>95238249
I don't believe you for a second you autistic little faggot. I hope you're cringing at yourself beyond belief

>>95235838
>> 3. GOD COUNTRY TP (MR) (IMA)
good shit

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>>95235838
>> 29. SH*T MY PRESIDENT SAYS ILLUSTRATED TWEETS OF DONALD TRUMP HC (IDW)

>>95241093
I think Larocca was the tracing culprit on the SW books but it could have been Dedato. I find their art nearly indistinguishable

>>95237087
>Mister Miracle flopping
I can't even fucking find it in my city so I had no option to buy

>>95258714
It sold out, what are you guys not getting here? There's a reason why LCS complained why they couldn't order more of the Death of Bizarro Arc for Red Hood and how it was bullshit that DC wasn't gonna offer 2nd PTGs for it even if it did sold out.

>>95262003
>https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/08/10/mister-miracle-1-sells-diamond-ebay-20/
>https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/08/15/mister-miracle-1-comixology-charts/

>>95237019
are you getting paid for shilling this hard?

>>95237130
>DC seriously can't sell anything except Batman
And Marvel can't sell anything except Spider-M-- OH WAIT

>>95146394
>>95147241
t. retards

>>95235824
Top 300 when?

>>95263079
In about ten minutes

>>95263079
about 10 minutes I think

>>95237087
Is Mister Miracle flopping? It's getting a 2nd printing, it's mostly sold out.

>>95261165
I think Larocca's stuff looked a bit more drawn (though definitely photo-referenced) but Deodato's was 100% CGI-directed. It is super obvious during the Vader Down crossover, when Aphra changes from being vaguely asian to looking like Deodato's Woman-Model.

>>95263291

>>95242622
This. My LCS sold out but he only ordered a few copies to begin with. This was retailer uncertainty, not customer apathy.

>>95263432
Thanks anon for doing that cross-linking for me.

>>95245190
>he thinks inconsistently buying does shit
These are preorder counts sweetie, it needs to be in your pull list every month

>>95259192
Give it a shot and decide for yourself, I know Bendis' run is a very low bar but what Duggan has been doing is miles above from what Bendis did.

I have to say the first two issues aren't good but it picks up by the third issue. So far since the comic is biweekly it has one issue covering the main story and the next issue being flashback stories that add to the main story (and set the seeds for more stories).

As for the characterization, in the case of Drax he's not the dumb warrior obsessed guy anymore and he's not MCU Drax, there's an issue that focuses as to why he became a pacifist and it shows that he still keeps his saxophone that he used to have when he was human (since the saxophone is his humanity). Gamora isn't really MCU Gamora who is the straightman and levelheaded person of the group and Duggan's Gamora is very far from that. She's going through something so she's actually a wildcard with her own agenda and Star-Lord and Rocket get into a fight with her because of that. Drax doesn't because she confided in him what she was doing and the comic shows that both of them are tight from their Infinity Watch days and they get each other better than they do with t

Groot looks like MCU baby Groot probably because of synergy and editorial I'm guessing, but it's clear in the comic that he's not a baby, no one treats him like a baby and he doesn't behave like one either. There's a creepy ongoing plot that explains why he's stunted and it involves an old Cosmic character and some echoes of the original Groot.

As for Star-Lord, he's tolerable, still a goof (then again DnA's Peter had a goofy side although he wasn't an idiotic comic relief like how Humphries did him) but he's competent and he shows it during his fight with Talonar.

>>95261045
Yes, I don't have much confidence on newbie writers who don't have at least a good size of writing history for me to check out and see what they are like especially since most of them turn out to be shit.

>>95259192
As for Rocket, he's the one that has been less developed but yeah he's a bit more like MCU Rocket (but he's not as big of a jerk as MCU Rocket). I don't think we will have the old Rocket back, Ewing so far is the only one who is writing him close to his older characterization.

>>95262003
It sold out but that doesn't mean shit if the retailer demand wasn't big enough and DC prints depending on preorders. Retailers didn't have enough faith in that book.

>>95252490
really interesting

>>95266217
>As for the characterization, in the case of Drax he's not the dumb warrior obsessed guy anymore and he's not MCU Drax, there's an issue that focuses as to why he became a pacifist and it shows that he still keeps his saxophone that he used to have when he was human (since the saxophone is his humanity).
Okay, you're kinda selling it to me

>Groot looks like MCU baby Groot probably because of synergy and editorial I'm guessing, but it's clear in the comic that he's not a baby, no one treats him like a baby and he doesn't behave like one either. There's a creepy ongoing plot that explains why he's stunted and it involves an old Cosmic character and some echoes of the original Groot.
Yeah, I had taken a look at some spoilers in the storytime, which made me think more about reading it, kinda trust Duggan right now

>>95266263
>I don't think we will have the old Rocket back, Ewing so far is the only one who is writing him close to his older characterization.
Based Ewing delivering