Why are y'all so damn homophobic?

>>95211280
They're butthurt SU fags.
Just ignore them.

Why would you drag best Loud girl into your obvious bait?

>>95211317
But OP didn't post Leni.

>>95211280
Because men are inherently threatened by sexually liberated women.
Just look at American Gods.

>>95211280
/co/ is full of homos, more so than nearly every other board, the fuck are you talking about? Is it the /tv/ crossposters? Eugh fuck we need to start having gay/beefcake threads again.

>>95211280
Because that's how we were raised and 30 years of gay activism can't erase 2000 years of homophobia

>>95211280
Kinda can't be if I'm gay.

>>95211378
>/co/ is full of homos, more so than nearly every other board
Well, gays and lesbians are the most hostile towards bisexuals.

>>95211280
>homophobic
>in a site where traps are openly and widely lusted upon

You're asking the wrong question.

>>95211280

You need more specifics to not be considered just a bait thread, and a not particularly interesting one at that

>>95211378

/co is full of cartoon fans, some of whom don't realize that they are sometimes enjoying material that either is subvertly or covertly full of homosexual or same sex signifiers, notwithstanding the ones tumblr claims are there which really aren't; that said, /co is full of people who are just fans of cartoons without expressing any interest in the sexuality of same, fans of arguments about whatever variation of console war you want to get into, people who want to discuss live action or animated versions of media, often with little or no regard to actual conversational forms, etc. etc.

Your claim if frequently made and as someone who lurked here for years and has been posting in this board regularly since 2014, there is a definite female and queer/gay/bi/lesbian presence, 'full' (while not an actual quantifiable means of measurement, presumably you intended to suggest a large or significant percentage) is provable and demonstrably false, sad to say. The actual beef cake, shots, same sex loli, etc. threads are proof of that.

>>95211446

homophobic isn't necessarily the wrong question. The story times of the current Iceman on-going and the threads about Jean Grey mind rape aren't clear and simple signifiers of homophobia (although that is certainly playing a factor); conversations about other fictional and frequently animated characters actions, commentary on webcomics which feature openly gay/lesbian/bi or questioning characters all belabor the essence of the point you imply you are making.

>>95211440
>Well, gays and lesbians are the most hostile towards bisexuals.

Is that true? The hell is their issue with bi people?

>>95211296
>They're butthurt SU fags.
Think about what you just said and the premise of this thread. THINK.

homophones are scary, man.
You're telling me 'colonel' and 'kernel' sound the same?
What the fuck?

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>>95211280
We aren't homophobic. We are fucking livid about almost anything with an obvious agenda, especially left-leaning stuff. We've endured enough progressivist bombardment over the past decade to become disgusted and ANGERY on sight. So we tell it to fuck off. And if we tell something to fuck off for long enough, it eventually does. It's our community's internal defense mechanism.

It was only 20 seconds and that episode aired 3 months ago. Are people really still pissed off?

>>95211707
Lack of commitment.

>>95211280
Since when does Luna say "y'all"?

Autism + homosexuality, other gender things and multiculturalism = REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>95211359
>sexually liberated women
Feminists are by and large antisex, though.

>>95211728
How would you show a character is bisexual in a way that, in your eyes, would not be seen as explicitly having an agenda in mind?

Because I saw the episode that everyone went so fucking nuts over and it was 99% straight couples and one sister thought a girl was cute, but it never implied that the girls who had crushes on boys were wrong and she wasn't being persecuted and shown to be righteous for her courage to love a woman or anything over the top like that.

>y'all
>>>tumblr

>>95211280
Because gay/lesbian characters are easymode these days. Every time a creator wants brownie points, they throw a stilted LGBT character into their work that doesn't mesh well with anything, and often times bends the plot around them.

When people see that pattern enough times, they get sick of it.

>>95211984
Pretty much this.

There are good gay characters, but most of the time it's just liberals patting themselves on the back for being "on the right side of history".

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Is Luna Loud /ourLoud/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EodF_H9v_OY

>>95212003
But it hasn't become the "Luna is an amazing gay" show all of a sudden. It's a scene at the end of a single episode.

She's still exactly the same - a flat character who exists to quote song lyrics because that's her gimmick.

Same as every other character in that mediocre show.

>>95211623
The Iceman comic is ass though, it's been what 6 issues? And all it has been is Iceman telling people he's gay. It's just dull.

It's just dumb gay people trying to make a huge drama by falseflagging as dumb non-gay people and pretending to be annoyed by shows having a bunch of gays and bisexuals and whatever.

>>95212127
That would have to be an awful lot of dumb gays considering how often it came up before on this board before the Loud House got /trash/-ed

>>95212034
Who isn't flat and one note in this show?

homos are faggots

>>95211446

Ah yes, fetishising people is totally evidence you don't discriminate against them.

>>95211623

Die.

>>95212152
There are a lot of dumb gays, anon. There's a reason they get more STDs than anyone else.

>>95211728

Your definition of "agenda" extends to characters simply being acknowledged as gay.

Pretty pathetic how you justify yourself.

>>95211984
>>95212003

I love when autists make shit up.

>>95212034
>But it hasn't become the "Luna is an amazing gay" show all of a sudden.
Because Luna has never had much screentime in the first place.

>>95211280
>Why are y'all so damn homophobic?

Because if I'm not I get accused of it anyway. There is no incentive to not be.

>>95211728
>We are fucking livid about almost anything with an obvious agenda, especially left-leaning stuff. We've endured enough progressivist bombardment over the past decade to become disgusted and ANGERY on sight.

So you tell me:
I'm gay.
I'd like to see gay characters in an ensemble show—let's say high school age characters, like a lot of cartoons use.
I like having characters I can identify with.
Sooo—how can these characters be included without appearing, to you, as if there's an agenda behind them?

>>95211728
>We are fucking livid about almost anything with an obvious agenda, especially left-leaning stuff.
Don't speak for other people you limp-wristed faggot.

>>95212283
How about making a checklist of all the things tumblr does and spouts about on an hourly basis, and then avoid those.

>>95211280
Hold on, what do you mean?
Is the character you posted being a lesbian, and thus, a slut, confirmed, and you're mad people are joking about her?
Or is your issue being that gay characters are now often criticized due to how awful they're written nowadays?

What diffrence does it make if Luna is gay?

>>95212283
Just have it be natural. Look at Tracer's big "reveal" for how it's done right. She came home, handed her gf a Christmas present and gave her a kiss. Simple and it makes sense. Compare with the entire page that was taken up with explaining to Iceman that he's gay, to make sure it was super obvious and all the attention was on how gay this gay man is, since he's gay.

>>95212393
Is Luna gay now? I'm behind on Loud House, and I legitimately don't know.

>>95212417
>Look at Tracer's big "reveal" for how it's done right. She came home, handed her gf a Christmas present and gave her a kiss. Simple and it makes sense.
Eh. WidowTracer is the better ship.

>>95212434
She wrote a love letter to a girl. She might also be bisexual, because she also was swooning about a dude from Britain for having a british accent.
Ultimately, it's not really relevant.
Gay characters in cartoons have existed before, they will continue to exist later.

>>95211707
"not gay enough" and "straight passing" for gay people and "not straight enough" and "too queer" for straight people

>>95211728
>We
stop talking

>>95211707
according to /lgbt/ theyre scared that theyll wish they were with the opposite sex at some point in a relationship and leave them

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>>95211280

Do dykes realize how screwed they are once society finishes falling apart?

>>95211728

There is no "we", faggot. We're not a hivemind.

>>95212524

I don't even know what that means.

>>95211296
Are you feeling alright, anon?

>>95212524
>things that won't happen

We need a slur -- a compact little one or two syllable fragment of canned hate speech -- to throw at any little cunt that wants to throw their politics into everything. Faggot, nigger, and cunt are all used up. The next time someone wants to start ruining everyone else's good time by going on about "only SJWs watch that show" or "Only Nazis read that comic" or "Only stupid foxes eat those grapes", I wish the rest of us could have a neat, concise little word to remind that pillbug that they are not a person and do not warrant our attention.

I suggest "Pillbug". Any one else got something better?

>>95212524
Society has been falling apart for 3000 years you pillbug.

>>95212691
How about "idiot"?
Just like you are for trying to make this into a war, fucking clapistan.

>>95212691

Giving them attention at all is the problem. You're already falling right in.

>>95211280
i don' like mentally ill people.
sorry.

>>95212820
How's that working out for you, what with the blatant retardation and everything

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>>95211623
>same sex loli
Lolis are for pure friendships with shotas, not sexual

>>95212524
I really want a social experiment that masquerades as a reality tv show.
Get a bunch of queers and asexuals on a stranded island to survive for what they think is only two weeks but have the cameramen and crew disappear halfway trough the second week and continue the tv show as a 24-7 online live stream for 2 years and see what happens.
So many possibilities.
Do they make a queer utopia?
Do they go Mad Max and fight to death?
Do they stick to their homosexual ideals?
Do their biological instincts kick in?
Do they just kill themselves before any of it happens?
I want to know!

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>>95211280
Wouldn't have to be if writers would know what their doing with her and stop forcing shit in cartoons.

>>95211280
>>95211280
why do you use the word "y'all"

>>95213535
>Stop forcing shit
Do you mean "Writing"? Because when a writer thinks up an idea and writes it down, that's called "writing".
"Forcing" describes the application of physical force to move an object.

>>95213535
is that what you call it when a character has a trait that you dont encounter in your daily life thus youve been conditioned to believe it doesnt exist

Why's it always lesbians, anyway? Even when there's no titillation value, like on a kid's show, 9 times out of 10 it's a lesbian and not a gay man.

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This thread is bogus.

>>95213853
but they also did the gay guys already

>>95211280
because it means I can't have her

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>>95211280
>think forced "diversity" is forced and stupid
>"You're afraid of homosexuals"

>>95211707
Jealous that they have more options.

Being bisexual is clearly the best.

>>95213924
People on the LGBT spectrum make up a decent chunk of the world's population.

There is typically one or fewer characters on that spectrum in a mainstream work of fiction.

Yes, some art is guilty of forcing diversity. The Loud House is not one of them.

>>95213924
>writers put in a character that doesn't conform to Republican dogma
>instantly it's "forced" diversity instead of just diversity in general
Just admit you're desperate to play the victim. You lust after it. You want SO BAD to be oppressed by DA EBIL SJWS & QUEERZ & BLACKS

>>95212417
>Just have it be natural. Look at Tracer's big "reveal" for how it's done right. She came home, handed her gf a Christmas present and gave her a kiss. Simple and it makes sense.

And yet a large number of raging macho gamers were screaming "SJW" and "tumblr"...

>>95214069
>Just admit you're desperate to play the victim. You lust after it. You want SO BAD to be oppressed by DA EBIL SJWS & QUEERZ & BLACKS

how about us HORRIBLE KIKES (...where's all this gold we're supposed to have? I can't even make rent)

>>95214027
If it wasn't awkwardly forced in, it wouldn't be so focused on and would've been a regular boy girl relationship.

>>95214069
Consciously including a specific type of person for the sake of having that type of person is forced. I never said anything about being "oppressed" or anything about sjws, queers, or blacks, you are the only one talking about that.

>>95214027
4% is not a decent chunk of any population. Come back when you're at least 40%.

>>95214141
so anything that isnt a regular straight relationship is awkward and forced?

>>95211425
um, sweety, gay males are the most misogynistic people on the planet.

>>95214141
>Consciously including a specific type of person for the sake of having that type of person
So you're a mind reader now.

>>95211886
i agree. it didn't seem preachy to me.

>>95213858
>my eyes are up here, Lincoln
>but they aren't purple and frilly

>>95214205
No, do you think they wrote the part in their sleep?

>>95214172
No, any homosexual or other relationship put into media for the sake of being "different" or simply for the sake of being homosexual is not diversity, it's just forced.

>>95211359
>sexually liberated women.
Who ironically hate sexuality the most of all.

>>95211280
Homofobic because of the most forced LGTB canon relationship in a cartoon?
Please, kill yourself or cut your balls off and be a women.

>>95214179
What does misogyny have to do with homophobia, Sweetie?

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>>95211280

Between this and Jericho in Deathstroke, are we entering the era of the bisexuals in Western media?

>>95214074
I thought all that was /v/.

>>95212986
Try doing that with any group of humans and you'll probably end up getting the same results regardless of sexuality.

Sex is pretty low on the spectrum of things that matter when it comes to the big deal shit like survival.

Or is that answer not edgelordy enough for you?

>>95212691
>Faggot, nigger, and cunt are all used up
So?

>>95213564
It's not uncommon if you're from the south. Plus it's shorter than typing the full words like every other contraction that people use.

Just like the "It's" and "You'res" that I used in the above sentence.

>>95212691
>Anti-SJW retards on suicide watch so hard they're trying to come up with new slurs to stay relevant

>>95211359
Civilization is inherently threatened by "sexually liberated women."

>>95214366
>sex
>not important for survival
American education at its best. I bet Darwin must feel proud of himself.

>>95214172
How the fuck does that make sense? you know damn well you cannot force heterosexuality because it is a basic human thing.

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>>95214410
do you get on your knees and cry every time you see a tv character that cant walk? thats a basic human thing too, so being a cripple must be forced

>>95211280
Why it's wrong to be against homosexuality? And why you call it phobia?

>>95214405
Sex is important for the survival of the species, but if you're stuck on an island isolated from civilization I think you're probably worried more about where you're next meal is coming from and what you're going to do if you get sick rather than how to create a safe environment for the kids you don't have yet.

>>95214483
Cause people cringe and whine like insecure little fucks whenever one shows up just like someone dangling a spider in front of a child's face.

Adults who don't like something just move on with their lives, only children scream and shout that they aren't getting their way in everything.

>>95214521
Maybe because parents don't want their kids to be exposed to things they consider unacceptable? Why they keep forcing it in kids shows to begin with?

>>95214579
Ask Rebecca Sugar.

>>95214013

This, pretty much. I have a gay friend who can't stand it.

His reasoning is that bi people have more "options", therefore they probably aren't as committed to gays having the same rights as straights. Because no matter what happens, they'll still get by fine.

>>95214579
Then don't let your kids watch it.

>>95214115

>tfw Jewish and poor

I keep wanting these sheckels I hear about, but they never arrive in the mail.

>>95211280
/co/ is sexist, not homophobic. /co/ is too gay to be homophobic.

>>95214579
That's the parent's problem, not the writers.
A good reason to write gay/bi characters in a kid's show is because there are kids who are bi or gay.

>>95214690

Nah, they're only homophobic when it's lesbos. Gay dudes are alright, unless they turn a straight character into a gay guy.

>>95214664
Easier said than done since Tv is literally full of gay agenda nowadays. Even if you decided to get rid of Tv, the internet is way more dangerous and you can't really stop your kids from using the internet.

So, the only way to stop this is by speaking openly against it.

>>95214757
>kids who are bi or gay
No such thing exist. No one born gay and kids don't have the capacity to understand this.

>>95214760
I hate to break it to you, but the culture war on this is already lost from your perspective. There's not really anything you can do, except instil the values you want in your kids the best you can.

>>95214792
>to understand this
*sexuality

>>95214792
kids cant understand gay love but ol regular country boy love is a-ok, right

>>95211280
Im not homophobic I just dont like shitty characters like tomboys

>>95214792
Most kids have at least a concept of sexuality by age 9. I don't think there are a lot of shows that focus on romance (let alone gay romance) that are for 9 or younger.

>>95214840
Because gay love is against nature while man-woman love is the norm? The reason why humanity exist to begin with is because of the union of a man and woman and kids can easily understand that they have father and mother.

>>95214792
This is such crap. My mum said something like 'sometimes boys like boys, and girls like girls' and kid me was like 'okay cool, now fuck off and let me play pokemon.' Kids aren't stupid, they get it, and they don't give a shit.

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>>95214792

Kids get crushes though, and age18 isn't when the brain presses the "do I like guys / do I like grills" button.

They should have made Luaggie happen instead of having Luna being the once to munch rugs.

>>95211280
Why does /co/ have SJW shit-starters in the board now?

What the hell is happening...

>>95214902
>Most kids have at least a concept of sexuality by age 9
This is such a big lie. Most kids don't even know what sex is.

>>95214639

Tell fagboy he has all the rights a normal person does

>>95214943
oh, hi eurofag!

>>95214792
Kids have a concept of sexuality at the age of 5 to 7

>>95212283

We all want things, anon

I want all fags to go away but that's not happening anytime soon

>>95214943
It's not though. Otherwise you would think that a kid in grade 3 having a crush would be disgusting and wrong

>>95214957
except that, you know, there are people actively trying to deny him the right to adopt, being able to become a teacher, deny him medical treatment or basic services on the grounds of religion, etc..

>>95214074
Internet autists will always bitch about something, no matter how good the actual execution was.

>>95214993
>That's what Americans believes
I seriously feel bad for ids because of the things you expose them to so you can prove that you are so "progressive".

>>95215058
>t. caveman
get with the times gramps

>>95215058
youre blaming it on all the gay shit they dont actually teach in schools instead of unsupervised access to the internet, half naked men and women on advertisements, or the constant hammering in from a young age that they need to find someone to date and marry otherwise theyre worthless losers?

>>95215058
>not wanting to push "progress" to see how far it goes
Why fight it?

>>95214975
Isn't it the opposite
Think about french comics and cartoons

>>95215025

Sounds fine to me

I wouldn't let nutcases adopt kids either

>>95215174
haha no
if you thought middle americans were prudes imagine an entire continent full of them

>>95214904
>Because gay love is against nature while man-woman love is the norm?
More than 70% of animal species can be gay
Gayest species is the bat (Batman is gay...lol)

Being gay in not against nature, it's just not helpful for procreation of your own specimen.

>>95215110
I prefer being a caveman than a degenerate.

LGBT was never a fom of anything except regression.

>>95213631
The episode was baited the whole way through which was what I felt made it forced. A few of the scenes even panned on the guy in the group rather than Sam, just so they could make the reveal more of a surprise. I think there would be less salt if they actually focused the damn pan shots on Sam rather than the guy or the guy and Sam, at the end they even do the fake out with the locker. It reminds me of this old pick your ending Goosebumps book where you are in a room and one exit says lizard while the other says wizard, the wizard will send you home. However if you pick the path that says wizard you are eaten by a lizard named wizard. I never felt that there was anything clever about that kind of writing since there was nothing leading to that conclusion. This would be like if I showed an image of someone holding an orb and said that we needed an orb to finish this machine. Someone goes on a quest steals the orb from the guy, and we find out that Orb was the name of the guy we needed and the image just so happened to be him holding an orb. When you come to that conclusion you are more annoyed than anything, and that is the kind of ending this episode had.

>>95215261
>Being gay in not against nature, it's just not helpful for procreation of your own specimen.
Being an gay uncle/aunt who doesn't spend resources on their own kids but on their nieces and nephews is.

It's worth remembering that in terms of evolution nuclear family is a very new invention.

>>95215306
wow, that almost sounds like a


plot twist

>>95215261
>it's just not helpful for procreation of your own specimen.
It kinda is since it cuts those genes out of the pool.

>>95215261
>it's just not helpful for procreation of your own specimen.
in nature the siblings of gay animals are actually more fertile than average

>>95214013
Bisexual anon here, it is the best

>>95215261
>Animals do it so it's ok!!
You know what animals do too? They kill their own children so they wouldn't share their food, their a type of animals that kills their mate after sex and eat them, their a type of animals that eat their own children, their type of animals that kills their own grandchildren out of jealousy....etc.

You are blessed with a brain to think, don't use animals as excuse for your degenerate behaviour.

>>95215331
>nuclear family is a very new invention
It's been around as long as humanity has so I don't get where you think that. Humans always lived in groups and raised kids since the caveman days. Even primates live in family groups.

>>95211280
"all those unequal don't want to be the same
they want to smell nice want to be fat and gay
the central equalizer will pick them out
and right away we'll catch them all and apply"
Real reason : that LOUD fuckers from manifestations who makin' grotesque parody of real LBGT statement, thank me l8r

>>95212524
What did he mean by this?

>>95215417
notice how he put "nuclear" in front of the "family" bit anon
that signifies he is talking about something more specific than a basic family group

>>95215357
Not necessarily. There's some evidence to suggest that the genes that increase likelihood of homosexuality also increase fertility.

>>95211280
Its not homophobia. The Loud House keeps shoving all this LGBT shit down our throats

>>95215498
>there are people who actually believe in the gay gene
Are you for real?

>>95215539
Well that's just a theory. It also seems like hormonal development in the womb is a major factor. Sexuality is complicated, and is probably determined by an array of different factors.

>>95215607
so its not magic homo wizards turning people gay?

>>95215630
We can't let them know about that yet.

>>95215539
>index finger longer than ring finger
>counter clockwise hair spiral
there are traits that appear relatively more often alongside homosexuality. There's definitely more factors than this, but a 'gay gene' is definitely not out of the question

>>95215353
Would it be good writing if Bruce Wayne has spent his whole life in Arkham after the death of his parents made him insane, and batman is all in his head, all the villains are really just staff that he interacts with, his butler is just the guy that brings him food and medication, and the other good guys are insane like him. No indication of this going back to any other medium, it just happens. Is that good writing?

>>95215448
Isn't that just parents raising kids?

>>95215607
>Well that's just a theory
It's actually a big lie made by a gay man.

>The fact that Hamer’s study cannot be replicated confirms reports that Hamer lied about his results. In 1998, another group of researchers (Sanders, et al.) tried to replicate Hamer’s study as well; they also failed to find a genetic connection to homosexuality.

>Then, in the Aug. 6, 1999, edition of Science, George Rice and George Ebers published a review of Hamer’s study to go along with their previous attempts to replicate his findings. The scientists stated that the results of Hamer’s study “did not support an X-linked gene underlying male homosexuality.” They found that the brothers observed by the Hamer group were no more likely to share the Xq28 markers than would be expected by mere chance.

>By this time, Hamer had already conceded that his pseudo-scientific study did not support a genetic cause for homosexuality, in the Jan. 30, 1998, edition of the Washington Blade. He also conceded that homosexuality is “culturally transmitted, not inherited,” and that “there is not a single master gene that makes people gay. … I don’t think we will ever be able to predict who will be gay,” he said.

>>95215686
no, because that would mean that the events that took place in the story never happened in this fictional universe, thus cheapening the effect and causing viewers to lose emotional investment

I dont see how that has anything to do with the loud house episode though, as far as I know Lincoln isnt autistic and in a mental hospital

>>95215729
no

>>95215539
It is more genetic related when a kid comes out with a lisp and wearing prada.

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>>95215753
What is it then?

>>95215731
>Study from nearly 20 years ago
Wew lad.
I went and found the study I was talking about if you're interested. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2012.02785.x/epdf?referrer_access_token=VgUWKl7iNWShph6SD_PPVYta6bR2k8jH0KrdpFOxC65dnd-nj6q_13u9X8IQUuJuyMH6Ogz_ztc9lgShInqSlaXWfXerN_rTsy667PqpCPLBwPMybmFeL2N1NpvN7mg3535ACIpAELIbN-OtkHxp9nJ1otlI2BsG-NOuylMzcnEk0uheAmQ-h_zKv18TagCph7_sXggUlHPOFJAaEaetTWEAZ0TGmPSQ0tI8Rg8mmP6pdajL50gRdoT0sjupuy-3m-qoyd8f_ScCdCnGe5L5sbx4H852Y7yeeNRTDdDuIsRZ11XOai-MuDe1g9ulz0zq

This actually explain why they try so hard to push the gay gene theory.

>One of the reasons that homosexual activists bludgeon people into accepting biological determinism with regard to homosexuality is that they must have it. If homosexuality is not in fact genetically caused, they have nothing. Their entire argument, their entire movement, is predicated on the utterly false premise that gayness is the genetic equivalent of race. The foundation on which they stand is their claim that just as no one can do a thing about skin color, so no one can do a thing about sexual orientation.

>Without a genetic causation, sexual preference in behavior is clearly a choice, a choice which no one is compelled to make. And that choice can be evaluated in any number of ways, including whether or not it is good for human health and whether or not same-sex households are sub-optimal nurturing environments for vulnerable young children.

is this a loud house thread?

>>95215957
>Without a genetic causation, sexual preference in behavior is clearly a choice
Whoever wrote this is clearly very stupid. If it's not caused by genetics, it does not then follow that it's a choice, what an asinine leap in logic.

>>95216069
If it's not a biological thing, then it's clearly a choice. What hard to get about this?

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>>95215058

There was no such thing as privacy for peasants
When families had a single bed (or no beds at all) do you think the parents cared that much if their kids saw them making a younger sibiling?
Especially in societies that don't demonize sex

>>95215731
And even a better study:

https://www.trueorigin.org/gaygene01.php

>Consider the obvious problem of survival for individuals who allegedly possess a gay gene: individuals who have partners of the same sex are biologically unable to reproduce (without resorting to artificial means). Therefore, if an alleged “gay gene” did exist, the homosexual population eventually would disappear altogether. We now know that it is not scientifically accurate to refer to a “gay gene” as the causative agent in homosexuality. The available evidence clearly establishes that no such gene has been identified. Additionally, evidence exists which documents that homosexuals can change their sexual orientation. Future decisions regarding policies about, and/or treatment of, homosexuals should reflect this knowledge.

>sexuality is just a social construct
>except homosexuality, which is genetic and forever!
Well, which one is it, you gibbering tumblrspawn?

>>95215129
Aren't Gays and Progressives different things? People can be Gay and not be on a high horse about it.

No I'm not.

If gay people wanna get married and ruined their lives too, let 'em.

>>95216171
>What is group selection?
>My siblings don't share my genes at all

>>95216261
Gays that aren't liberal get called Uncle Toms and ignored in every discussion.

>>95216128
If it's not a biological thing, then it would be a psychological thing. In that case it would still not be a 'choice' because human behaviour is not an on and off switch. A person's sexual attraction would still be involuntary and instead influenced by environment, and by the time of adulthood would be practically impossible to change.

This of course ignores mountains of evidence that suggest that there are biological causes (genetics, epigenetics, prenatal environment). I know it's lazy to say 'google it' but you really should.

>>95216369
Psychology is just applied biology.

>>95211296
SU haters, everyone

>>95211280
Imagine spending so much time and money raising your child only to learn that they're a dead end.

That's why.

>>95216325
Wouldn't that be unprogressive by nature making the progressives uncle toms by proxy?

>>95216514
>Leftists are hypocrites
shocker.

>>95216470
What if they get a surrogate?

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>>95216470
This is thinking obviously that the kid is "your" propiety and not another soul with another path always different of yours, where you also believe in dumb shit like "lineage" (big news, you are 2 times related to everyone from the original couple)
Geeze, and idiots as why kids end up being as bad as right now.

God you guys are a bunch of faggots.

Why do you care if a cartoon kid is gay? It's not like any of you sad fucks posting about cartoons on a Saturday have kids of your own that you're worried about being influenced.

>>95211765
Yeah she says "thou" in her royal voice

>>95216694
I have four kids actually, three girls and a boy. Not everyone here is a virgin NEET, only the majority.

>>95216965
Show pics of the boy's bathtime

>>95214179
Misogyny is just good sense.

>>95211280
Why does it seem like "forced" diversity has turned into "Not a straight white person"

>>95216675
Treating kids as special snowflakes and not as resource they (And all people) are is what messes them up in the first place.

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I can't believe Luna is fucking dead.

>>95218709
She's a fucking lamp. How can she be dead?

>>95216675

>soul

Doesn't exist

Realz > Feelz

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Welp didn't see this thread

Guess it was deleted even though there's forty ppg and bojack threads up right now m

So this is an anime thing then from what I got from the reply? Dunno why this would be in the show considering there'sfucking nothing in american culture about this.

Also the show kind of blows tbqh

>>95214156
4% of 7 billion people is 300 million people.

That's enough to populate the entire USA.

If you don't consider that a "sizeable chunk of the population", you're wrong. Not really up for debate.

>>95215406
So like some humans.

>>95211280
I dont care that she's gay. I'm actually gald they didn't fore it down our throats. Same with clyde's dads. Their introduction felt organic.

>>95221989
Also I'm not talking about the topic of the gay OP thread but what is happening in my image

https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/95220869/#95220869


I'm not saying the gay thing is an anime thing

>>95211280

it's another tomboyish gay character/

it probably would've been more "progressive" to have Leni being the odd one out, since she's so stereotypical

It honestly bewilders me that people are so concerned about what two other consenting adults do in the bedroom that they dedicate so much of their own free time complaining about it.

>>95211280
No one is afraid of fags, we just don't like them
>>95211317
>fag
>best
>Luan exist
kys

So, are you angry homosexual teenagers all trying to convince yourselves that you're not homosexuals to fit in with what you consider non homosexual friends?

>>95222586
>we

>>95222646
I don't pretend to be anything. I hate everybody.

>>95222726
Yes, "we" as in the people OP refers to as "homophobes." You'd be hardpressed to find a "homophobe" who is afraid of gays rather than just disliking them.

>>95223153
homophobe doesn't have to mean that you're afraid of them

>>95211280
Did something happen again?

>>95211984
>these days
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SweepsWeekLesbianKiss

>>95212524
Well we no longer have god emperors who forces us to build monuments in honour of their vain glory, we have the cooler sounding invisible hand instead.
And we don't work our asses of and feed inbred parasites, because god says so, but because we are all heavily indebted as of birth and due to the magic of interests not everyone is able to pay them and we don't want to be the ones who can not pay them off.

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>>95223453
>tvtropes

>>95214760
It's because you are not looking hard enough.
If you gave up on it so easily, maybe this "problem" isn't so incising in your quality of life as you pretend it does and you should get your priorities in order.

>>95223704
>"they might make my children gay"

>>95223670
the point is, that the inclusion of homosexuals isn't a recent thing but I am too lazy to copy and paste from a list, that already exists.

>>95223743
This is a bullshit argument.
I realised I was straight when I was 8. No amount of indoctrination would've changed that.

>>95223802
I agree, I was raised mormon with no access to anything but cable tv until I was 15.
Ended up bi.

So I watched it

I dunno it was okay but I'm a little weirded out how the girl she likes is also conveniently gay too. Kind of like the pearl and rose clone look a loke situation

Oh well probs to much drama having a scenario of a gay girl pining for a straight girl

Gay shit has no place in children cartoons dam it.

>>95223887
She seemed to know the girl, so she probably knew that she liked girls.

How does age work out with fags in general? Men overwhelmingly like women to be younger, women overwhelmingly prefer men to be older. Do various species of faggots have the same sort of majority-leaning inclinations?

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>>95223887
>Kind of like the pearl and rose clone look a loke situation
How can it be anything like that? Their entire race is one sex, there is no gay or straight

>>95222537

Since the beginning of culture, people have always looked to find something that seems to be the elusive source of all moral degeneracy, despite not in any way reliably being harmful for people. To homophobes, hating fags is some sort of magicallly heroic kind of catharsis against people who don't exhibit some kind of evil but somehow enable it. It's like Poor Richard's Almanack, it's like Aesop's fables, it's like an a parent trying to be just the right kind of asshole to their kids so that somehow they figure out how to be nice. Just because being anto-gay can have a lot of depth to it doesn't mean it still isn't garbage, though.

>>95224025
I'm talking about the rose biker girl

>>95214013
t. biscum

>>95224097
>Since the beginning of culture, people have always looked to find something that seems to be the elusive source of all moral degeneracy, despite not in any way reliably being harmful for people
Except that there is a societal danger with homosexuals, in that they are wildly more likely to be pedophiles in a given population.

>>95212283
Homosexuals are a minority. Not even a kinda large minority like Asians and Blacks in America. I am straight and I like seeing straight characters. I also don't like seeing gay characters. I find it repellent. So why don't you get your own cartoons, fill them to brim with all the sodomites, carpet munchers, and trannies you like, and leave mine the hell alone?

>>95224312
The vast majority of child molestors aren't pedophiles, and the vast majority of men who molest boys report no sexual attraction in adult men. Stop with this stupid as fuck 'homos are pedophiles' meme, and think critically for once mate.

>>95224585
Trannys aren't necessarily fags, though. They just appropriated the LGB movement to avoid doing any hard work and have since made it incredibly toxic.

>>95224585
You don't speak for all straight people.

>>95212417
How the fuck was Tracer doing it right at all? They retconned her husband so that they could pander.

>>95224643
Do you not know how numbers work? If there is 1 gay child molester for every 5 child molesters, that's saying how insanely likely it is that they'll molest kids. Which is exactly the case. But liberals HATE numbers, especially ones where you take into account X/10,000 to show true population patterns.

>>95224745
And I just explained why those numbers are bogus. There are straight men that molest boys you know, it's rarely based on sexual attraction. But please, feel free to live in your delusion.

>>95224853
>numbers don't make sense to me, therefore you are delusional!
Oooooo... kay? How do you not understand that having a higher percentage per population is demonstrable to something?

1.5% of the population accounting for over 20% of child molestations is kind of a big problem. Handwaving it away by saying "buh buh but there's m-more straights that do it" doesn't mean shit. It means that if the populations were reversed, you'd have tens of thousands more child molestations occurring than right now.

But of course, liberal minds can't quite understand these things.

>>95224853
>another strawman
You haven't listened to a single thing I've said. Child molestation and sexual orientation are unrelated.

>Using the fixated-regressed distinction, Groth and Birnbaum (1978) studied 175 adult males who were convicted in Massachusetts of sexual assault against a child. None of the men had an exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation. 83 (47%) were classified as "fixated;" 70 others (40%) were classified as regressed adult heterosexuals; the remaining 22 (13%) were classified as regressed adult bisexuals. Of the last group, Groth and Birnbaum observed that "in their adult relationships they engaged in sex on occasion with men as well as with women. However, in no case did this attraction to men exceed their preference for women....There were no men who were primarily sexually attracted to other adult males..."

>Other researchers have taken different approaches, but have similarly failed to find a connection between homosexuality and child molestation. Dr. Carole Jenny and her colleagues reviewed 352 medical charts, representing all of the sexually abused children seen in the emergency room or child abuse clinic of a Denver children's hospital during a one-year period (from July 1, 1991 to June 30, 1992). The molester was a gay or lesbian adult in fewer than 1% of cases in which an adult molester could be identified – only 2 of the 269 cases (Jenny et al., 1994).
http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html

>>95225193
>In yet another approach to studying adult sexual attraction to children, some Canadian researchers observed how homosexual and heterosexual adult men responded to slides of males and females of various ages (child, pubescent, and mature adult). All of the research subjects were first screened to ensure that they preferred physically mature sexual partners. In some of the slides shown to subjects, the model was clothed; in others, he or she was nude. The slides were accompanied by audio recordings. The recordings paired with the nude models described an imaginary sexual interaction between the model and the subject. The recordings paired with the pictures of clothed models described the model engaging in neutral activities (e.g., swimming). To measure sexual arousal, changes in the subjects' penis volume were monitored while they watched the slides and listened to the audiotapes. The researchers found that homosexual males responded no more to male children than heterosexual males responded to female children (Freund et al., 1989).

In summary, each of these studies failed to support the hypothesis that homosexual males are more likely than heterosexual men to molest children or to be sexually attracted to children or adolescents.

>liberal minds
I'm a libertarian.

>>95225193
>>95225216
>the remaining 22 (13%) were classified as regressed adult bisexuals
i.e. not straight. This alone is validation to the point that homosexual leanings create higher instances of child molesters. 13% of the sample size BACK IN THE 70s BEFORE IT WAS OKAY TO IDENTIFY AS NON-CIS happened to be non-cis.

Why would you go out of your way to disprove yourself? I just don't understand liberals.

>>95225338
Wow, you are a special kind of stupid. Here's your last (you).

>>95211280
They're closet cases.

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>>95211317
>best girl
>Luna
Nigga what are you doing

>>95211919
>i've never heard the term "y'all" in my life: the post

>>95211280
this show make underage children think and act like adult , luna just 15 year old only .

Remember after-school special episodes, where they beat you over the head with a specific moral?

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>>95225380
>thinks bisexuals are straight
>calls someone else stupid

>>95225338
He just said he's a libertarian.

>all these wrong anons
everyone with taste knows that lily is best loud

>>95216675
>types this
>believes in women's abortion with no restrictions
Sword cuts both ways faggot

>>95223334
Our darling little Luna gave a girl a love letter. It was positively adorable.

>>95215406
wanting to bang someone of the same sex isn't like killing and eating people, retard.

>>95226731
>fetus
>human
top jej

>>95224742
When the hell did Tracer have a husband?

>>95226681
I was the dude who originally said Luna was best Loud girl, but even I can't argue against Lily. She's not even part of the discussion. She's so pure and wonderful that she is beyond such things as best girl arguments.

>>95216470
you're not entitled to grandchildren

>>95226838
>self-determination just magically appears
heh

then acknowledge that a child is an investment in the future.
and if the fetus is going to be born that way then well they jolly well won't be, because you do that to a bad investment.

>yfw either gayness is a choice or the gay gene can be eliminated due to abortion like down's syndrome

>>95227063
I agree self determination is there but Self determination of a human (pregnant mother) > Self determination of a non-human (fetus)

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> This Thread

gays are uncanny valley creepy on a deep level
nature singled them out, broke them at birth so their genes wouldnt be passed on
theres a reason more civilized cultures burned them, and why the ones that embraced them were conquered from within or without

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Luna is pretty sexy

I'm sure some gays are good people, but by and large they and their goon squad supporters have singlehandedly ruined the political discourse of western civilization over the last 10 years. If they had just kept things as they were and not stirred shit, everybody that matters would have been in their corner, but instead they've become the ultimate example of redpilling.

>>95227313

>"Smile for me, lil' bro..."

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i just don't like it when creators decide to make a character entirely on the basis of who they prefer to diddle, it just makes them seem one dimensional

>>95211280
uh, excuse me?
Luna is my WAIFU!
Of course I'm going to object to the idea of some dumb teenager putting her filthy hands on my precious angel!
I wouldn't be reacting any differently had it been a guy!

>>95211280
It's bad writing to just randomly decide a character is gay a season into the show, not to mention how smug the scene came off as.

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>>95227572
Luna is so 1D even Savino himself don't know what the fuck he wanna do with her.

What is /co/'s idea for a good way to handle a gay character?

>>95227572
It's more like they created a 1-dimensional cardboard cutout to fill out the roster, but could never think of what to write about her, so they made her gay as a cheap way to grab viewers.
Which is kinda worse.

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>>95227415
>>95227313
>>95227358
>>95227798
You guys are doing God's work. Screw the bait, I say we make this a Loud House thread.

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>>95211280
Sweetie, i like both genders as long as the boys have feminine dicks. Nice try though

>>95227933
Personally? Just write them as regular people. Having hobbies and issues that doesn't always have to stem from them being a gay character. A preference for their gender of choice but they don't have to activity seek out a partner to show that hey, I like men/women. Treat it more as a passing mention than a crown they should wear for all to see.

Also I would like to add that if they are in a relationship. It doesn't have to be a loving one. Show that they go through lover spats and perhaps even abuse that heterosexual couples do.

>>95211280
Were the cartoonfags always this homophobic or is this a new thing? /co/'s the gayest board on the site lol.

>>95227933
Show a scene of them being rejected by a straight person. Or even better make it a common occurrence where they're turned down. It seems like in popular media once you have a gay person, there's just automatically another gay person that spawns out of nowhere to hook up with them or they turn another established character gay.

We had a husbando thread like 2 hours ago. Get this bait shit outta here

>>95228542
>/co/'s the gayest board on the site
/co/ is just infested with fujoshits that talk nonstop about homosexual pairings and of men. There's few actual gays here. Hell there's probably 100 times more furries on /co/ than there are gays.

>>95228592
Maybe we need simultaneous beefcake and cheesecake threads. You know, to show how we're accepting and all. Definitely only for that reason, and no others.

>>95227933
/co/ generally loves character like Midnighter, Daken, John Constantine, Wally and Gus, etc., yet hates Bobby Drake so I guess it all comes down to not shoehorning/diversity shilling and to making a genuinely good character who is more than just 'the token gay' I guess.

Also personally speaking, the whole persecution angle/storyline most writers in all forms of media give gay characters where everyone treats them like shit or where their partner dies is getting fucking annoying and old.

>>95228650
No, we're rife with homos and have been for years. Lurk moar/stop being in denial.

>>95228584
or having their partner break up with them, again it seems when a gay person is in a relationship they're automatically viewed as a perfect couple that everyone should model after

>>95228803
Considering I've been here long enough to spam desu on /b/ back in the heydays... no. Fuck off, faggot. This site is for straight people, and that's why your kind is always on the defensive and being shit upon.

>>95228871
If you've been here long enough to spam desu on /b/ then you've been here long enough remember shit like Kuso Miso Technique and My Wild and Raunchy Son getting posted to death.
The greater 4chan community has never been particularly homophobic and the idea that it's ever been "for straight people" is absurd.

>>95229049
How dumb are you if you think shit like that was posted because people were aroused by it, or related to its content? They do it because they're mocking the shit out of gays. It's not necessarily homophobic, and I'm not sure where you got THAT from, but it's definitely not condoning or accepting faggot behavior.

Itty bitty baby, indeed. GTFO, homo.

>>95227933
euthenasia

>>95211280
I thought she was bisexual since she also had a crush on Lincoln's tutor. Are bisexuals still considered homos?

>>95229839

at this point, barely.

>>95229839
>Are bisexuals still considered homos
Only males, because there's no such thing as a male bisexual.

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>>95229225
>>95229049
haha you should kiss now you faggots

>>95223192
>phobe
Is a phobia.
A phobia is an irrational fear.
You are retarded.

>>95229891
demonstratively false

>>95231045
Um, no, sweetie. If an adult man interacts sexually with another man's dick, he ain't coming back no matter how many women he fucks afterwards.

>>95227798
>Luna is so 1D
Which is extraordinary, considering how flat everyone else is

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>>95232210
>Tfw she will never ride your dick raw and after just fucking jam on guitars for hours on end.

>>95214757
Kids are apathetic towards romantic relationships and don't even understand sexuality until an age where most of them aren't watching cartoons anymore.

>>95224745
>If there is 1 gay child molester for every 5 child molesters, that's saying how insanely likely it is that they'll molest kids.

But wouldn't that mean that there are 4 straight child molesters for every 5 child molesters?

>>95211280
I don't know anything about this show other than all the crappy incest porn I see of it on exhentai

and holy fuck is there a lot of it

>>95214937
>now

There's a reason why other boards think /co/ is 10x more retarded than /pol/ anon.

>>95226828
>call others retarded
>support the argument that say "If animals do it, then this means it's ok!"
I guess humans can now freely eat each other and if anyone dare to question that, they have just to use "animals do it!" excuse like gay supporters do.

>>95211280
Because of forced diversity.
I guess there is no quota on antisocial unkissed virgins among main cast in media. But, wow, they are minority among the audience too.

>>95231793
Except the sisters have been steadily getting more and more development over the show's lifespan. Luna's always been the character with the least focus and development. There's a reason she was jokingly referred to as a household lamp when the show started off.
>>95233724
The only fappable Loud House comic is atomic bomb's.

>>95214156
Honestly bisexuals make up a much bigger percentage of the population. If you use other terms to ask people, especially young people where there's no stigma, whether they're bi to a certain degree you get a huge jump to the point purely straight people are in the minority in some surveys. Most people just have no fucking idea what bisexuality is so even if they're bi they don't think of themselves as bi (for example that bisexuals often prefer one gender over another).

>>95214579
>other people are responsible for parenting my children for me
>I am incapable of turning off the tv

>>95234578
>if you use retarded magical handwaving then all people are gay!

The state of liberal and progressives.

>>95215729
It's just that for most of human existence people lived in big band society groups not nuclear families. Members who didn't procreate still contributed to the group's survival. Since it was never one man and one women responsible for the children everyone was responsible for the children and resources were devived equally among the whole group. Some have speculated that gay genes could have been selected for through group selection by this mechanism. Think of bees and other social insects who develop sterile members in this way. Sometimes it's better if some members don't reproduce in a species and a percentage that doesn't actually evolves.

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>>95211728
How are you supposed to include any homo shit at all if even the tiniest implication causes autists to go pic related? Being gay is statistically unlikely, but it's still a fucking thing that happens. In a show that takes place in a realistic environment and tries to portray mostly down to earth plots there's nothing wrong with having one or two faggots.
>we
You got a turd hanging out your ass or something? You don't speak for me.

>>95211728
speak for yourself, fuck face

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>>95223597
I bet you think that sounds deep.

>>95224710
yes he does
we declared him the king of the straight
hail stephan king, of the straight

>>95212283
i liked the korra ending it was subtle and made sense

Because girls have ignored me.
They go for Chads.
They go for Tyrones.
They go for Pacos.
Now they're literally going for each other.

I've been alone too long. Usually I wouldn't care if it's two dudes, but if banning all gays means there'll be more available girls that might like me someday then fuck it, I will shit on their parade too. Same goes for the other races and even other white people.

You leave a dog starving long enough and he will turn into a wolf! All of you normies think us electing our guy was th end game. The game is just getting started. We control the memes and we're coming for all of you. Beta uprising is NOW!

>>95213858
>is dad making fish today?

>>95227798
actually she is his favourite

>>95211280
Because injecting a message like that into a children's cartoon risks them becoming confused about their sexual identity.

>>95236794
Why not just use money to pay for a whore?

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>>95236842

>Little Timmy will literally run outside and start sucking every cock he can get his hands on after he sees a faggot in a cartoon

Literally soccer mom tier.

>>95226461
Bisexuals aren't homosexuals.

>>95211721
Yeah, SU fags are butthurt that Loud House is the new LGBT show and they made this thread.

>>95216445
SU fags everyone.

>>95236980
>this coming from Misha

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>>95237704

That's how you know it's right.

>>95236980
Nice straw man Misha, probably the only man you've ever fucked too.

No I don't believe little Timmy will start sucking dicks indiscriminately after watching a gay cartoon character, but I do believe the aggressive LGBTQ messaging in children's program is muddying the waters for young children when it comes to what their sexual orientation is and who they can talk to about it.

>>95211359
Finally someone says it. Guro and Unbirth are super liberating and everyone who's against these fetishes are fucking misogynists!

>>95211280
What does a lamp have to do with homophobia?

>>95236794
If you're not just trolling, then your attitude is quite obviously why girls have rejected you, and that probably goes for most other alt-right self-described "betas" too.
"If people won't do what I want then I'm burning the world down." This isn't just mean, it's the most egotistical thing ever.
I've had a handful of relationships over the past ten years. Some girls broke up with me. Eventually I found a cool one who stuck, but I'd never have gotten there by spending my single days ranting. And you know, what if she breaks up with me tomorrow? Life will go on.

>>95214074
Actually the "outrage" was hilariously minor, to the extend that someone actually wrote an artcile along the lines of "so nobody sad anything, but what they probably WOULD say is..."

>>95221989
>Also the show kind of blows tbqh

Maybe you just have shit tastes, anon.