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Let's see how well Sean Murphy does
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>>95196553
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Reminder Punk Rock Jesus was written like dogshit regardless of how nice the art was.

I have no faith in the writing of this comic. At the same time, I have no time for triggered /pol/babies who are infuriated by the idea of a societally bad Batman.
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>>95196570
Colors by Matt Hollingsworth and letters by Todd Klein by the way
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>>95196577
ok
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>>95196594

>>95196577
My sentiments exactly. Murphy is a fantastic artist but he's a mediocre writer at best.
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>>95196594
>Gordon is waiting for Batman to rape the Joker
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>>95196615
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>>95196638
First look at this confirms that the art is great.

Also first issue is out October 4. And it's 7 issues total.
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>>95196553
A Joker Elseworld by a Jokerfag, no thanks
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The royalties he'll make off this, coupled with the presumably massive page rate he's getting plus the 3k he's selling each page for will set this guy up for life.
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>>95196703
>comics
>money
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>>95196594
>Yes. Go for it Batman. Rape him
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>>95196615
Already fucking hate it
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>>95196553
>Every last cuck who said to give this a chance before judging
Done. It's utter shit from page one.
Now give cyanide a chance.
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>>95196719
There's money in Batman. Trust me, this will sell like fucking nothing else, and DC will keep it in print for eternity, as well as rerelease it in a bazillion different formats
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>>95196553
Looks boring tbqh, and i'm eating anything Batman lately
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>>95196553
I'm going to buy it physically. I like the idea of evil Batman.
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>>95196803
The only way this will be redeemable is if Dick beats Bruce's ass. No way he would stand by and watch Bruce abuse criminals like this.
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>>95196615

>oh no
>christ...
>bruce, don't...

why are they just standing there and watching it happen?
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>>95196771
You are treating this like the next Killing Joker or some other shit like that when it'll be one and done and maybe in the future get reprinted in a collection of Bats Elseworlds like many others
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Btw why Batman is facing joker only in AU stories lately?
To me the stories are starting to look all the same
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>>95196615
The biggest problem with this is there is no set up. We dont know if Bruce is unhinged or if this Joker is a piece of shit who has done unspeakable things.
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>>95196842
Because he is Batman XD
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>>95196594
Gordon unbelievably aroused right there.
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This is written like that fucking retarded comic where Batman and the Joker are reincarnating twins or some shit.
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>>95196657
That building top right is like an abstract Batman, it's neat.
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I know its an elseworld but it just feels wrong. It's like meeting your idol and seeing him beat a homeless person.
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>>95196577
I don't care about evil Batman.
I'm butthurt about the Joker being sane and right. This story would be so much more interesting if Joker was played straight, but all the talk has pretty much said we're doing a tragic, sympathetic Joker.
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>>95197008
shut up batfag, I bet you liked injustice because bruce was the good guy
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>>95197049
>Injustice Bruce
>Good guy
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>>95197049
>mfw I overheard someone complain about Batman vs. Superman stories yet praised Injustice as "one of the few good ones"
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>>95196886
Did you read the same preview I did? It's pretty clear. Look at reactions. Read the dialog.
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>>95196594
Only way this works is if Batman kills people cause this page is second degree manslaughter pouring that many pills down someone's throat.
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>>95197114
We know nothing about this Joker or what he has done.
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>>95196594
>a psycho in makeup
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>>95196657
>bat-shaped heart
what did he mean by this?
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>>95197049
>injustice batman
>good human
He is a miserable piece of shit.
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>>95197138
Are you literally retarded? Do you need to be spoon fed exactly what the Joker did to understand the horrified faces of everyone as Joker gets force fed an entire bottle of who knows what? Or the dialog on the pages after it?
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>>95197208
No fag I need to know if Joker has done horrible enough things to brutalize him like this regardless of what he's saying. You're clearly a gullible person. It's called context. If hes a psycho murderer Batman doing this to him would be justified.
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>>95196615
Meh. If it was literally any other Batman villain, then maybe. But I have no sympathy for Joker, Elseworlds or not.
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>>95197252
> It's called context.

Do you ask your boyfriend what's happening in movies too?
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>>95197386
Kek youre a retard mate. I wasn't asking anyone what happened. I understand the direction the story is trying to steer you in. I'm stating it's poorly done. We don't know what kind of person this Joker is or if Batman behaving like this is warranted. What if this Joker blew up a school or is a serial rapist? There is no context for either of their actions.

Words are wind, they hold no weight.
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>>95197361
This. Imagine if that was Mr.Freeze or Two-Face. Are we supposed to feel bad about Joker in this comic? Cause I find it impossible.

And I don't even mind "Evil Batman", It's something that doesn't happen often and I'm curious how it will turn out.
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>>95197429
Based on the other characters' reactions to Batman's actions the savage beating and forced feeding were obviously not warranted. Fuckface.
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>>95197488
How do we know they aren't just soft? You seem gullible as hell. I bet I could trick you into letting me into your home so I can kill you.
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>>95197488
go back
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>>95197008
Oh stop being a little bitch. Superfags had it a lot worse than you ever did.
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>>95197506
I don't think you understand what gullible means, dummy.

All the cops are soft. Gordon is soft. Batgirl and Robin are soft. Sure.
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>>95197590
Batgirl, the cops and Gordon are soft. Nightwing looks completely unphased by it.

And gullible is you believing something someone says and taking it at face value.
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>>95197008
Oh no! Really?! How does that make you feel?
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Ehhh I like the other one better, the one by the Europeans
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Going Sane was better.
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>>95197252
They won't say anything, this was just to state that

>This Batman is overly brutal and out of control
>This Joker is a misunderstood comedian victim of insanity

That's just how this elseworld goes, it may sound stupid but these are comics, what'd you expect?
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>>95197982
But anon! This is not your Batman, this is not THE Batman. This guy is no different from Injustice Supes. So why get mad at characters from an Elseworld that are not even the canon to begin with?
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>>95196615
wtf is Batgirl doing, saying Batman's name in public?
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>>95198042

Maybe everybody already knows his name, or maybe his civilian identity is unimportant? Man I dunno.
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>>95198027
I'm not mad, I'm just saying it's dumb
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>>95196721
gay fag
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>>95198042
>>95198086
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>>95198338
But Anon! How can it be dumb if this happen every day?! It logical that someone as unstable as Batman would be a sadistic bastard with talent for brutality. It's in human nature to relief your frustration in all the way you can find. If anything, the canon Batman is dumber.
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>>95196615
>Murphy tries to write a sympathetic Joker and ebil hwite conservative Batman
>Makes Batman instantly more likeable by doing to the joker what he should have all along

Good job, gold star. Seriously, the art is great but I've got more than enough Murphy commissions and pin-ups saved to ride me over.
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>>95196843
What DC is doing is trying to create an artificial Killing Joke but if you notice it's something they can sell to women too and women are the biggest chunk of readers for books out of comics. Besides DC knows everything with Suicide Squad or Harley in the title was selling this year in book stores curiously.
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>>95198842
The only way to stop the Joker is by raping him. But not anyone can rape him, it has to be Batman.
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>>95196886
those things are supposed to appear after in the book like flashbacks maybe.
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>>95198042
It kinda bothers me that bruce's secret identity is so worthless now. It seems pretty common for new villains to show up and announce they know him and hold it over his head. How many villains know who he is atm? It sort of cheapens batman's whole identity.
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>>95196615
>He everybody! Check out my impression of Heath Ledger!
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>>95197008
nah, It's interesting.
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>>95198861
profession writing.
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>>95196657
>How many GCPD takes to change a light bulb? It takes one Batman

"Chuckles"
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>>95198947
1) I'm not a Republican
2) I'm not American

Maybe it's just a European thing but even the liberal amongst us have no qualms with a fictional vigilante putting down a fictional mass-murdering sociopath. But by all means, keep tying youself in cognitive knots trying to justify how the Joker should still be alive after all these years besides "he makes money so DC jumps through retarded hoops to justify keeping him around".
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I don't mind a Batman story with Batman being the bad guy or the antagonist but I don't fucking care about the Joker, he's overrated and overdone.

I rather have a story from the Condiment King, thanks.

>>95197074
>>95197175
He's not good but the narrative pushes him as the good guy.
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If Harley doesn't go fucking Ivy behind Joker's back even after she marries him then I'll take this as a complete waste of time, paper and ink
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>>95199049
Kek, you sound like a teenager that is mad his dad grounded him.
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>>95197105
Injustice is good solely because of how fucking crazy the story gets.
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>>95199096
Cuckolding is disgusting and so are you. People such as yourself are a waste of air, you should kill yourself.
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>>95199097
Jej, you have no counter-argument. Insert an ad hominem retort of your choice questioning your sexual prowess/alignment and/or age here.
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>>95199111
I don't even tolerate cuckolding, dude, but I find that in this instance it'll be appropriate
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>>95197252
You fucking retard literally the last page shows that his a comedian who also robs bank
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>>95199138
>Jej
Sure thing. Your entire point is emotional so I guess I am right and you are just a little boy that is mad.
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>>95199139
>in this instance it'll be appropriate

No anon. It's never appropriate. Harley is in a loving relationship with Jack Napier in this one, i'm sorry you can only find pleasure in suffering and humiliation, but this wont happen in this one.

Highly likely we wont even see Ivy, thank God.
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>>95198042
Maybe she's really moved (in the wrong way) by what's happening?
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>>95198992
>Blaming Murphy
>not blaming the letterer who didn't make the speech bubble whispered
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>>95199186
I'm reasonably certain that Harley's fucking dead in this elseworld.
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>>95199241
No anon. Stop inserting your fetishes into the narrative. That's absolutely disgusting.
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>>95199186
How can't it be appropriate? I mean Murphy is clearly painting this story as a poor, misunderstood Joker story, if people left poor old Joker alone he wouldn't do the things he does, so clearly inserting cuckolding into this story would drive the point further

Godamn do I hate this story
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>>95196618
He really should have
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>>95196577
>People can't improve
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>>95199262
Its not my fetish it's just that I hate the story so much and I don't want Murphy shitting all over HarleyIvy
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>>95199265
No anon. Stop inserting your fetishes into the narrative. That's absolutely disgusting.
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>>95199186
Whoa now, what do you have against best lesbians Harley and Ivy?
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>>95199282
You don't want someone to shit all over a fictional couple over a canon one? Anon, you are very stupid.
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>>95196771
>he believes this

Bro the Marini thread happened a few days ago. That's the book with the juice and the squeeeeze. This shit is dick cheese compared to that.
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>>95199315
Nothing reallyThey are just not going to happen. I have an issue with Ivy being so goddamn boring.
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>>95199186
Murphy, why do you hates lesbians?
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>>95199345
Because they are boring. Very boring.
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>>95199316
>Joker/Harley
>Canon

HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAH
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>>95197361
This set-up was literally perfect for Two-Face
>here comes a new miniseries about a Batman villain
>but wait, it’s a REFORMED Batman villain, a sympathetic one
>a reformed Batman villain who's gone into politics with the goal of restoring law and order to Gotham
>and confronting Batman about his illegal and harmful actions
>and the miniseries is going to be called "White Knight!", like how Harvey Dent was referred to in the Nolan movies
>who's the villain ? Why, of course it's going to be
>THE JOKER

It's like a bad joke.
Imagine how much more powerful would this >>95196615 be if it was Batman desperately and angrily shoving pills in Harvey's throat to finally get rid of Two-Face in hopes of curing Harvey's madness once and for all.
How much more shocking would it be because of their relationship and how better villainous Batman would be because his actions would be so much more understandable and reasonable.

But no, it has to be Joker because no one's going to read a Batman story if this insufferable edgelord isn't prancing front and center while everyone else is back-up dancer
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>>95199416
>... And God helps whoever touches his queen
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>>95199378
>lesbians
>boring
>not the cutest
we're not talking butch dykes here, anon. We're talking lesbians.
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>>95199454
I'll take "Worst lines in movies I liked" for 400 Alex.
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>>95199493
Rev up your Harley
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>>95199493
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>>95199419
Preaching to the choir man. I've been rantingfor months about how this should be a Dent story. It's literally in the name of the series. It's be like having a series called Clown Prince, and having it be about Killer Croc.
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>>95199468
Extremely boring.
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>>95199559
But Dent is boring, uninteresting and it doesn't sell nearly as much as the Joker. So you get Jack Napier instead.
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>>95199549
Holy fuck.
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>>95199711
muh diamond's dicks rght now
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>>95199559
Fucking hell I don't even think it's that interesting of a set-up but it's focusing on the wrong character.
There hasn't been a good Two-Face story since 2014.
At least there's the Shatner movie coming up.

>>95199610
Yeah because Joker for the gorillionth time is just so much more interesting
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>>95199711
Yeah, that's what she said.
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>>95199770
But it's irrelevant! The Joker sells!
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>>95199778
I'm beginning to think that you just really like Leto's Joker. I mean, I liked Suicide Squad too, but it's not the friggin' Gospel.
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>>95199758
I love how the best artists support the best ship

>>95199778
Kekz, keep dreaming my dude
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>>95196553
It looks good though I prefer Black and White, I can't see enough to say the writer is really good but I think he's acceptable from some pages he posted in twitter without dialogue at least he has the serenity generally is lacking form comics but present in european and asian works. He has potential in the romantic part as well.
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>>95199232
>blaming Todd Klein
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>>95196594
A lot of words for someone getting punched hard in the mouth to say...bad writing confirmed
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>>95196553
I love how much this is triggering the Batfags.
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>>95199419
>Harvey gets his shit together
>Reclaims his place as district attorney
>Sets up law and order back in Gotham
>Gets a shit ton of villains executed
>Dismantles most of Gotham's criminal networks
>Batman goes full retard and gets discredited
>All part of Harvey's plan
>Takes over whats left of Gotham's crime unopposed
>Beloved D.A. soon to be mayor by day, brutal crime lord by night. The ultimate Two-Face
>only one who can stop him is a broken, broke and brutal Batman pushed to his limits
Would this be a better Batman mini.
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>>95199468
Because EVERYONE uses lesbians, they're the safest, ironically blandest sexual minority you can use in fiction. Lesbians are the dead parents of diversity.
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>>95199282

how is Sean shitting on your ship? Shitting on it could be to call it shit or something in the story but Murphy is just writing a story where Harley and Ivy aren't lesbians.
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>>95200711
I would love to read this to be honest
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>>95199897
not him/her, I don't even like Leto, He's not even attractive but they're right it is not the first time Joker/Harley is canon so old news.
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>>95199316
>a fictional couple over a canon one
hate to break it to you, anon, but it's all fictional.
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>>95200365
that happens in comics anon, it doesn't mean anything.
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>>95199318
so? anyway this thing is going to get a lot of money, it has The Joker in it and you know what happens with fanboys, It has a romantic story with Harley and you know how popular they are.
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>>95200855
>Murphy is just writing a story where Harley and Ivy aren't lesbians.

And that's my beef
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>>95200798
lezzbehonest cause dey cute.

>>95201009
shit is dick cheese mah dude. smegma of the stankest order.
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>>95201123
Why? Dykes are boring.
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>>95201316
Nah, my dude, nah
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>>95201346
Yass, mother fucker. Yass.
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>>95201346
of course he's right
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>>95201369
You idiots have the worst taste in all comicdom
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>>95201123
preper yourself cause like is natural with years are going to be hundreds of those times where Harley and Joker are a couple
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>>95201377
He's wrong in all accounts
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>>95201421
Time a-changin and with that the characters relationships, Joker/Harley had their days counted
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>>95201429
nope, he's right 9 of 10 people from street think so.
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>>95201346
faggot
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>>95196615
I don't really mind about the whole situation, but Dick in a jacket looks plain wrong.
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>>95201316
>>95201346
>>95201369
>>95201377
>>95201392
>>95201429
what the hell happened to us...

what happened to the /co/ dream?
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>>95201495
we grew up!
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>>95201464
in the streets
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>>95201527
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>>95201527
We're having a bitchfight over who Harley Quinn should smooch. That is basically the opposite of growing up.
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>>95201495
Lesbians became shit and full of anger, delicious brown died in the clash of racism and political correctness, faggots in the closet fucking killed the thicc generals because of futa and fat feeding shit. Even cheesecake is dying and beefcake is officially dead.

I remember the days of the caturday, I remember the days we just posted hot shit and we didn't care. I remember when the mods used to be kinda reasonable instead of massive faggots.

It's the end my friend. It's the end.
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>>95201464
>>95201481
You retards are on on wrong side of history and you know it
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>>95201681
Bullshit, The Island of Lesbos was a boring shithole. The only entertainment was watching Sapho eat those girls out.
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>>95201676
There's only one solution. We need to post a shitload of cheesecake.
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>>95201710
The mods would delete it. I miss the days of Pavita Pechugona, the days in which Korrasami gave people sexual gratification instead of irrational anger. I miss them so much.
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>>95201676
but anon....

"I can do this all day" -steve rogers
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>>95201637
but we grew up enough to understand lesbians are shit.
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>>95196615
Haven't there been multiple stories of a unhinged Batman or at least Batman framed to be unhinged
And in all those stories Gotham PD were ready to arrest or stop Batman.

I mean I get the message the writer is going for, bit it feels like they're ignoring all the practical answers that usually come up cause they want their message.
And that just makes bad writing.

They're literally ruining their own comic by make it specifically Batman.
Could make it a OC that is a parody of Batman and its criticisms/shortcomings would instantly be lessened.
But then again their sales would also go down since Batman is popular and more original ideas get small potatoes.
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>>95202144
The same shit happens to Superman Elseworlds. Fucking get used to it, faggot.
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>>95196615
I somehow doubt that is the recommended dosage
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>Batfags triggered that their superhero is being turned into a villain for the sake of a shitty role reversal

Oh no, how awful. What a horrible thing to do to a beloved character.
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>>95203010

If it was Superman in this position, Superfags would just cry and whine that it's all Batman's fault somehow.
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>>95203310
Yeah, but watching Batfags do it, it's a lot funnier. You people are hypocritical pussies.
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>>95197049
>>95197559
>>95197761
>>95203010

These guys are right. Batfags cry over one little comic making Batman evil. Superfags cry after 10 of them (unless you are Pissed Jose).
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>>95196638
>Napier
So are they saying that's the Joker's name?
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>>95203484

what 10?
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>>95203538
>Jack Napier (Jackanape) is probably the most strongly alluded-to 'real name' for Joker.
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>>95196842
"Come not between the Nazgul and his prey!" -Batman
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>>95203484
I care much less about evil Batman, and much more about good Joker.
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>>95203010

I'm not triggered by Batman being bad.
I'm bothered by the Joker being good.
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>>95199156
You're not even intelligent enough to know when someone is openly mocking you, give it up.
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>>95204516
Wow. That took you long enough.
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>>95196594
Batgirl just said "Bruce, Don't" out loud in a room full of civilians cops as well as The Joker.

Nobody stopped who was obviously Harley Quinn from just waltzing onto a crime scene in progress and recording what was probably staged nonsense from The Joker since the very beginning.

Batman would never force feed a villain pills unless this was one of those Batmen that kills because Batman wouldn't risk forcing a perp to OD by his own hand. If this is a Batman that kills, the police wouldn't be sitting there doing nothing, and Joker would have been long dead before this.

Dick would never stand there while Bruce goes apeshit like that unless the villain did something truly despicable.

Montoya, Bullock, Barbara, and Dick all changed locations in the room within the span of 5 seconds while watching on in abject horror.


This is one fucking page.
Can't wait for the rest of this trainwreck.
And by "Can't wait" I mean that I never want to see the rest of it.
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>>95201463
>Being this delusional.
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>>95196615
>can't... breathe...
CLOWN LIVES MATTER
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>>95204633
>Batgirl just said "Bruce, Don't" out loud in a room full of civilians cops as well as The Joker.
See >>95198861

>Batman would never
>Dick would never
It's an elseworld, dummy.

Quit gettin mad at comic books.
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>>95201676
>back in my day, /co/ was love
Every fucking time. I've been here over 10 years and /co/ hasn't changed. Just the comics and shows we watch.
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>>95196638
>Bullock siding with Joker against Batman

Well, fucking dropped
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>>95203310
except when it is
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>>95203310
Now I want Superman to save the day.
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>>95196638
Wait they are giving him a name?
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>>95201123
That's pathetic.
Makes me reconsider liking the ship myself.
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>>95199770
the Convergence Question/Two-Face story was good and it was in 2015, All-Star was decent as well
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>>95199770
The fact that you're trying to imply that piece of shit was good makes your opinion invalid.
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>>95206617
>Batman is obligated to kill when you want him to
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>>95196570
>>95196594
So what exactly happened before that? How many people did the Joker kill before Batman started beating the shit out of him? Because, y'know, that's what he does, kill people.

Or are they just going to pretend Batman, Batgirl, Nightwing and the cops just ran into the Joker simultaneously and Batman started beating him up?
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Book isn't even out and he's already doing damage control
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>>95199265
It's not even fucking out yet, comics aren't supposed to pander to your fetishes.
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>>95208526
lol this tweet just makes me like him more.
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>>95196577
The writing in Punk Rock Jesus was better than 95% of the capeshit released in the last 5 years.
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>>95198861
That is such a YA thing. When was the last time anyone in the real world said anything under their breath? especially if it was not calculated and out of anger but they were too chicken shit to say it to their mother/bullies face. Where is an indicator to show its under breath, should not the dialogue bubble be have a different outline like maybe ---------
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>>95196615
>>95196638
>Joker's insanity is cure by fucking pill OD
I wanted to like this, I really did. I loved the idea of Joker going straight while still trying to destroy Batman, but if two pages of a preview are all it takes to reduce to writing to 'bad fanfic' tier, then there's not really much hope left.
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>>95197105
Injustice is good because of how retarded it is both in art and dialogue, especially the first 3 years
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>>95200798
fuck your diversity checklist. Do it because its nice not because its controversial. I aint reading about paraplegic midgets or whatever is it you think is spicy
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>>95206826
Jack Napier. That's the name Nicholson's Joker had in Batman 89.
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>>95209056
Cry some more imo, if this is your thin red line then maybe you should give up comic books.
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>>95209140
Honestly this. Anon sounds like a triggered feminist when they flip out over something minimal.
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>>95208526
>pickles are cucumbers
w-what?
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>>95196638
>If Batman was a cop, you'd charge him with assault
lmao
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You can just tell this is gonna be a Storytime of Pain entry next year.
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>>95209161
Yes, they slice up cucumbers and put them in pickling juice.
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>>95204633
>Batman would never force feed a villain pills unless this was one of those Batmen that kills because Batman wouldn't risk forcing a perp to OD by his own hand. If this is a Batman that kills, the police wouldn't be sitting there doing nothing, and Joker would have been long dead before this.
>Dick would never stand there while Bruce goes apeshit like that unless the villain did something truly despicable.
It's an elseworld
>Batgirl just said "Bruce, Don't" out loud in a room full of civilians cops as well as The Joker.
She's whispering to herself

But yes everything else is true. Murphy is not a very good writer
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>>95209241
t. butthurt batfag
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>>95198958
>How many Villians
Joker
Bane
Ras
Lady shiva
Every single one of the hundreds of ninja's in the league of shadows
Court of owls
Hush

I'm pretty sure there is more
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>>95197168
It means he wants Batman to buttfug him. This is literally Owlman vs the Jokester though.
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>>95196703
He brought a house when he signed the contract at Dc
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>>95209140
>>95209159
'Thin red line' nothing. I know it's only 5 pages, but the writing's generally disappointing so far. I liked the premise, but 'Batman ODs Joker' is a crappy start, and >>95196638 seemed to be hinting that's how the cured Joker this whole story is about is going to happen. Unless those pills had some Clayface-level sci-fi substance in them, having Arkham actually get somewhere with curing Joker makes more sense IMO.
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>>95209092
Maybe if I changed the analagy to "Lesbians are the new rape" you would get what I was saying instead of going apeshit
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>>95209161
Did you know that raisins are grapes?
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>>95212004
Not him, but I don't follow.
pls explain
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>>95196615
I like those Batgril duds
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This Is weird, every times when joker Is cure and gone sane, he always become extremely, very different form the psychopathic joker, almost a opposite person , unlike other villain of Batman, who even then they turned good, still have their personality. Joker become a different person.
A kinded heart gentlemen,
Or a justice politicians
Why is that ?
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>>95212297
This is probably a con, like when Lex pretended to turn good and ran for president in JLU just to piss Superman off.
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>>95212352
Going Sane Joker was genuinely reformed. He only went back to being the Joker because he found out that Batman wasn't dead after all.
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>>95212297
I don't know but to me it level up the creep factor for some reason.
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>>95212395
By "this" I meant "White Knight."
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>>95199419

Damn straight, anon. There aren't very many DC characters that are 100% irredeemable shitbags that can't garner any sympathy from me, but Joker is one of them. ANY other Batman villain would have worked better than the guy who has killed hundreds "cause it's funny".
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>>95212227
Remember how back in the day shit writers used rape as a way to add character development to female characters or write a backstory, Lesbianism is often used much in the same way. Got a female character and want to fill out her back story and tantalize the reader: Lesbian, want to sake up a female characters status quo: Lesbian. The sad thing is the overexposure is causing a backlash. I wish more writers would look at the trends and say "maybe I should try something different instead of copying everyone else".
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>>95203783

This. Evil Batman could probably be done well. Good Joker is absolute horseshit.
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>>95208370

No, he's obligated to uphold his own fucking oath to protect Gotham.

>"Oh this guy keeps escaping whenever I lock him up? He keeps murdering people every time? Hundreds by now? Sorry, I'm better than he is, I won't stoop to his level. It's not my fault he keeps getting out and killing even more people. Nope, I can just catch him again no problem, no consequences."

I swear the only people who defend this shit are Jokerfags and retards. But I repeat myself.
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>>95212723
But as the other anon mentioned, the Joker is practically a completely different person from Jack Napier/"sane" Joker. At a certain point, it's almost like a split-personality deal. Do you blame Mary Walker for what Typhoid Mary did?
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>>95200711
Probably 10X better than this drivel
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>>95206617
Injustice Harley and Batman have a sexual relationship, it'll help me understand the actual reason she got a slap on the wrists.
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>>95201495
This is it. It came true.

Now let's put these /co/kers through some rea changes.
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>>95206211
Bullock hating Batman is a pretty common thing, how new are you?
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>>95196553
ITT: Batfags mad about an AU where Batman is evil and out of control.
Somehow when exact same thing happens to Superman all the time, that's okay, but for Batman it's off limits.
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>>95200711
That sounds like a fantastic premise.

I would not mind reading this.
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>>95213461
But did Bullock ever take the Joker's side against Batman?
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>>95213421
. She knew what she was doing was wrong. She took her daughter away, because she knew their life wasn't good. Read the Injustice 2 comic. She even said she knew she was doing something wrong. But she did it anyway. She was an accessory to mass murder. And this wasn't even the first time she did it also. She had multiple chances, she ruined them all. To say that because the Joker influenced her absolves her of her actions is pure bullshit. She killed Millions of people and did not pay for her crime at all. That's straight up bullshit. Wonder Woman should've killed her. At least most of the regime faced trial for their actions. But but the fact that she didn't is purely bullshit.
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>>95213832
The comic writers cant' do anything to contradict the game where she's alive.
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>>95213832
Ridiculous. It's obvious that Harley needs to spend the rest of her life in a facility, so stop with that she needs help bullshit. She does need help, but in Arkham with all the other criminals. She's in part responsible for the death of Lois and millions of people in Metropolis. there's such an special treatment for Harley and Batman all over this story mode that I can't blame fans hating on Harley and Bruce.
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>>95213292

Jack Napier/"sane Joker" is nonsense. And saying you can't punish someone because their "other personality" did it is dumb. You physically can't punish just one part of someone's personality. So yeah, sucks for the "good part" of him, but the "bad part" is a mass murderer and deserves a mass murderer's punishment.
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>>95197026
The Killing Joke showed a sympathetic past for the Joker and that was a good story.
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>>95196615
jesus, this seems pretty fucked for Bats
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>>95213832
she killed millions of people. And all of a sudden she's a good person. Because she's with batman. She needs to be killed
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>>95213934
Bruce still let Harley run free and join his team. He's a hypocrite
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>>95213528

Batman going evil/out of control is a neat concept, but just like with Superman, probably won't be done well. Really, though, baitanon, I think people are actually upset about the Joker.
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>>95203783
Why? There have been several versions of good Joker, I can remember at least Jokester from Crisis on Two Earths movie and Red Hood from BatB cartoon.

Besides, Joker doesn't need to be good. He only needs to oppose evil Batman - opposing evil doesn't mean you're good.

>>95204633
>Batman would never force feed a villain pills
Frank Miller's Batman would, and so far it seems like pretty close fit for this Batman.
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Does this have anything to do with the White Knight from Morrison's Batman and Robin run? I liked him. Interesting villain.
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Wait, is this just an edgy version of the Lego Batman movie?
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>>95214055
Yes, it showed a sympathetic past.
Contrasted with a deplorable, shocking present.

This is just going straight for Joker being "right" about Batman and being cured of his craziness and all that dumb shit. It is set to remove nuance and discussion in favor of much clearer moral lines, and the preview backs up this fear pretty well.
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>>95214750
Perhaps you should wait until it ends to see how it all plays out.
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>>95214800
I will, which is why I keep saying that I'm butthurt about what /the writer and the news have been saying it will do/ rather than saying the book will not have nuance.

I'm allowed to say it looks like shit when I get a peek, anon.
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>>95214800
This Batman is confusing. Is he always an evil drug pusher? Or is this more normal Batman being setup? Have the cops/Batgirl/Nightwing seen this before?
I don't need to wait to know this book has not figured out how to introduce important information and let the readers know what the mystery is
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>>95213832
>She killed Millions of people and did not pay for her crime at all.

Between her getting a pass for that & Supes heel turning cuz Lois dies I'll never be able to stomach the Injustice line.
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>>95201676
Cheesecake and THICC threads have always been cancer.
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>>95212395
>>95212297

because he was insane.

Now he's not insane.

He has a sane personality.
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>>95196553
alright
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>>95196553
I like this Harley
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>>95213832
Ridiculous those comics are not canon for the games, they tell the story more or less and the games might use something from comics but they can't be considered as explanations or canon since things happened in different ways and the writers for the games had their own opinions and aren't cooperating with comic writers.

Games are games, comics are comics.
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>>95212297
In The Killing Joke, Joker was a very different person before he went insane, I can only assume that other writers just based sane Joker off that.
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>>95203783
>I'm bothered by the Joker being good.
nigga please
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwa6Zdav9U4&ab_channel=JohnScott
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>>95212297
>six month anniversary
Anniversary means one year, that doesn't make any sense. The Latin for "year" is built into the word.
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>>95215122
I think the set up is Bruce become a little bit too far because of the horror joker did years after year, then suddenly joker become sane and a good guy who want to fight him.
The story actually has lots of potential, what I think will happened is that Bruce is going to do illegal stuff to fight with reforms joker because he didn't trust him and at the end joker become insane again, but prove he was right about Batman
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>>95202144
>They're literally ruining their own comic by make it specifically Batman.
It's an elseworlds, and you didn't read the full story yet so you don't even know where is he going with this. Seems like you already wanted to be mad about this even before you read it.
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>>95196638
Is Batgirl's costume in this literally just a domino mask?

Are we supposed to believe that she is standing directly in front of her father with the equivalent of two fingers covering up her eyes and he can't tell it's her?

Fuck this comic.
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>>95196553
Well I really like the art, and that usually enough for me to purchase a comic.
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>>95213992
Nah, let's only lock up people's bad sides. We'll saw Dent in half and put his left side in Arkham. It's brilliant.
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>>95214249
Alternate realities that revolve entirely around flipping people's alignments and an elsworld that's supposed to be grim and realistic are not entirely comparable.
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>>95220955
It's not like she's covering much more here than she does with her current costume.
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>>95196615
>I can't breath reference n a fucking Joker comic

Superhero comic book social commentary is so misplaced and ill-thought.
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>>95221225
This but unironically.
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>>95209028
>When was the last time anyone in the real world said anything under their breath?
Good thing it isn't the real world but a fucking superhero comic book where people have names like Edward Nigma and Harley Quinzel then.
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>>95220955
1. Gordon not realizing that Babs was Batgirl was always requiring huge suspension of disbelief.
2. It's Elseworlds so he might as well know, you don't know that and it doesn't have to be stated.
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>>95220955
How is this still a problem when there are all the Robins + the whole Clark/Superman thing, Oliver Queen/Arrow, etc.?
Stop being a faggot.
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>>95221954
>>95222019
>>95221909
>trying this hard to defend this SJW pandering trash
Unreal. This place really is /co/mblr.
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>>95221631
Wouldn't work, for quite a few things the left side of the brain manages the right side of the body and vice versa.
Therefore if you magically separated Harvey into two and tried to carry this out his good looking side would have to face punishment for his bad side's crimes, meaning his good side has to now live on the outside with his bad looking side's face, doing him no favors in society in terms of recovery.
Of course vice versa if you put good Harvey in just because he looks bad, bad Harvey has now gotten away with everything.
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>>95222064
First off, did you even read this comic?

Second, I'm only calling bullshit in that domino mask arguments when there's been a shitload of domino mask characters in the DC universe for ages. It's a fucking stupid thing to critisize that in this comic in particular (or any other individual comic).
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>>95222064
Have this pity (you), it costs nothing and you really seem desperate. You're Gabby Rivera of bait.
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>>95196553
i want /co/ to bitch some more
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