CAN'T STOP! WON'T STOP!

>>95190721
>Despicable Meme
>Minions
>Frozen
>Finding Dory
What are most animated movies that gross a billion trash?

These days I have trouble remembering the most recent CG-animated film that didn't break some box-office record

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>>95190721
Megamind was a better villain movie, and that had a minion that I liked

>>95190746
>Finding Dory
I mean I get why Illumination is divisive and Frozen was a bit overhyped but Dory was actually pretty good.

>>95190746
Eh, even when Disney isn't on top of their game, it's not really trash, it just falls short of what we expect from them. Finding Dory was alright, not the second coming, but also not fucking Minions. It's just that alright is so much worse than Disney should be able to do.

i tried watching it but had to stop, the 80s style villians was the only redeeming feature

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>>95190746
>finding dory
>bad

>>95190787
>>95190824
You're memeing right?

>>95190986
>memeing
Fucking kill yourself

>>95190763
>Megamind was a better villain movie, and that had a minion that I liked


yeah, but it wasnt made for a franchise.

>>95190721
>>95190746
why is Illumination so incapable of doing anything better than "just ok" and why do they keep making so much money because of it

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>>95190787

people remember Finding Nemo fondly, it was certain it will make money.

it's basically banking on Pixar's nostalgia.

>>95191352
its just a kids movie and is not bad, you are just not the target audience

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>>95191352
you forgot question mark.

the answer is; because that's their goal!

minimum effort, maximum profit, these yellow pills were designed to be as marketable a possible, they can be and on anything you could imagine. this "franchise" will keep thriving, because it's so cheap.

>>95191392
I know

I never said their movies were bad though, they just range from "meh" to "just ok"

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>>95190746
1 B I L L I O N

>>95191423

chinese have shit taste.

>>95191402
Better much this Illumination probably has the resources to make good films but like you said they are designed to be as inoffensive as possible, they will never make a challenging and/or controversial film they are here for the easy money

>>95191965
Literally every animated movie studio is "in it for the easy money" except Laika because it's a pet project funded by Nike

>>95191322
thank fucking god

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Maybe I should watch it

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>>95191965
It's not like Disney and Pixar are producing anything that wouldn't considered "inoffensive"

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>>95190763
And had the best antagonist

>>95192016
That's most of Hollywood, specially so for animated industryy, because making animation is fucking expensive.

The only scene you will find animation that is purely artistic and defies norm is in independant animation festivals and all that, because the investment isn't usually so bad the producers will go brankrupt should their work fail.

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>>95192016

nah, Disxar tries to do both: earn money and tell a good story.

>>95191423
This wasn't trash but I didn't like it nearly as much as I thought I would considering the praise it gets

>>95192115
>r9k personified

>>95192128
Anything Disney does is easy money

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>>95192175

because of Brand?

>>95192144
Remember when Zootopia tricked normies into making fursonas?

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>>95190721
>working outdoors
>wearing blue overalls
>left cousin visits
>"anon you look just like a Minion!"

>>95192191
yes
they're not too big to fail (probably) but the momentum they have from being a family household name for decades is a big factor

>>95192207
>well you look like Henchman Zero
>w- *neck snap*

>>95192207
As someone who lives in the countryside and wears overalls, you have my condolences.

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>>95192225
fuckers dont have to try as much as others, and the only companies who were able to compete with them were created by their ex employees.

now they're either squashed or reabsorbed.

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>be me
>be in hospital after car accident
>severe damage to the left side of my body (shattered every bone in my arm, lost a foot, lost an eye, underwent emergency surgery to relieve brain swelling)
>lungs failing, liver failed
>family comes in to say their goodbyes
>they all start crying seeing my jaundiced, bald, Two-Face body
>little cousin points to me
>"anon, you look just like a Minion!"

>>95192495
heeeeey...waitaminute....how are you typing this?

>>95191460
It made 1 billion thanks to Japan though.

>>95192648

Japan eats up Disney like Udon noodles, but 1/5 of Zootopia's billion was from China.

>>95192495
are you a ghost?

>>95191322
Sometimes thats for the best. Its good, it told a standalone story, and we havent come to hate it thanks to 2 shitty sequels

>>95192207
>left cousin

again, in English this time

>>95193254
>thanks to 2 shitty sequels
or fuck-awful shorts tacked onto even worse movies

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>>95193346

yeah, franchises are the worst.

j/k, there are sequels that surpass the originals, but that's rarity

>>95193310
lefty, leftist

>>95193383
>person I disagree with
this had fuck-all to do with your anecdote but good of you to insert it

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this year is kinda shitty for animation.

>>95193431
dont get your panties in a twist senpai

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>>95192089
Dr. Crow?

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>>95193470
Everytime I open this image I feel like I've done permanent damage to my soul

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>>95193533
you have some weak soul

>>95190721

HOW??

I forgot it was out and hardly saw any commercials for it.

>>95193979
Minions, minions everywhere.

>>95190746
>Frozen
>trash

It's been 4 years, why are you all still this butthurt?

>>95194229
he cannot accept it's modern equivalent of The Lion King.

>>95192089
Too many negatives.

>>95193310
the other died

>>95194229
>why are you all still this butthurt
the irony of that defense is pretty oustanding. quoted to avoid ragequit later.

>>95194229
Nobody is butthurt about a mediocre movie being mediocre.

>>95193470
Captain Underpants was pretty good.

>>95196120
Do Americans actually believe this?

>>95196135
Do faggots really deny this?

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>international movie markets become more important
>domestic movie markets become less important
>plots become simpler
>dialogue becomes simpler
>more explosions
>fewer moral/philosophical conflicts
>more slapstick and fart-jokes
>less langue dependent wordplay, less culturally dependent references

>>95192175
JUst like the good dinosaur?

>>95196120
the animation and voice acting were great. the plot and humor made it unwatchable though. I honestly tried to like it, but couldn't finish.

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>>95196394
>plots become simpler
>dialogue becomes simpler
>more explosions
>fewer moral/philosophical conflicts
>more slapstick and fart-jokes
>less langue dependent wordplay, less culturally dependent references

Are you a frozen caveman from the mid-seventies?
This has been a trend longer than everyone here has been alive.

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>>95196394
>less culturally dependent references
fewer

>>95196454
Perhaps he meant that the references were the same in number, but less dependent on a specific culture?

>>95192207
>"anon you look just like a Minion!"
You must be one ugly motherfucker

>>95196424
the trend started decades ago, as did the exponential economic growth of much of the developing world. It didn't plateau in the 70's 80's though. It's been getting worse and worse as time goes by. Major Hollywood movies weren't haphazardly inserting superfluous scenes with Chinese heroes helping out in the 90's.

>>95192115
With a universe this fucking comic book he's definitely wrong on at least two of those three things.

>>95196645
The Chinese didn't have 100 million dollars to buy tickets to the movies in the 90's.

If Ecuadorians started paying 100 million a film at the box office, you'd start seeing Ecuadorian action sidekicks.

What's amazing to me is that neither the DCEU or the MCU have tried to insert a Chinese superhero. Someone like Wonder Man could be easily reimagined as a Chinese mainlander.

Instead, DCEU puts in Jap-Flag-Samurai-Bitch and China says "NOPE".

>>95190763
Megamind is the best animated superhero/villain movie since the Incredibles

So is the villain basically Randy? Is it worth watching just for that?

>>95198794
it gets a flack because
>dreamworks

i wonder how Incredibles 2 will do.

>>95194229
>Frozen
>Anything more than trash
Kek

>>95192207
Dont wear overalls then faggot wear a fucking mechanic jumpsuit

If anything Sing should've got a billion.

It was a good movie

>>95191352
Because they know they don't have to be great to succeed. They also know that you don't have to spend over 100 mill to make a hit animated film.

>>95204911

Lots of characters for self insert, but the designs were godawful.

>>95194229
The only reason people remember Frozen today is the "Let it go" song.

But according to /tv/, a movie wins if it makes a lot of money?

>>95205513
Which was pretty damn bland anyway.
>inb4 le hipster
Nope. my musical tastes for the most part are pretty mainstream.

>>95190746
Minions is the only film in that franchise I have seen but it seems fine.
I have the dvd of the first two movies though. I should watch it later

>>95200047
Trey Parker does his best to lift this movie up, but there wasn't enough of him. It's a mess of a film, overburdened with too many characters and trivial plot threads, making it the weakest of the series. (Oddly enough, Minions had the tighter story, a well-realized backdrop, and a gorgeous and motivated villain.)

>>95192076
don't. It's tv-movie tier garbage full of b plots that go nowhere. The villain is cool, yeah, but shown like 10 minutes, and the movie was animated in a parisian parking lot (not even kidding, illumination studios offices are located in a fucking parking lot in paris)

>>95205594
>>95205513

Didn't stop Disney from playing it all over the country in stores as a pop song making it third most profitable franchise ever.
Alas we're getting sequel in two years.
Anyone excited?

>>95192207
Fuck em, overalls are comfy.

>>95196394
Spike Spiegel really let himself go, huh

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>>95207106
so they're movie equivalent of Palcomix?

>>95198794

it's a supervillain movie alright.

>>95190746
Toy Story 3 and Zootopia were actually good and they grossed over a billion.
Also, I actually liked Finding Dory, and Frozen is actually one of my favorite Disney films of all time.

>>95207987

what plebian taste.

>>95207106
>It's bad because anecdotes that cash in the "it's ok to be racist against France" brainwash
Disney fanatics at work

>>95193979
>hardly saw any commercials for it
I couldn't go anywhere WITHOUT seeing an ad for it. Even if you missed the constant barrage of TV and internet ads for it, there's so much merchandise for these films saying "SEE DESPICABLE ME 3 IN THEATERS NOW" it was hard to forget.

>>95207106
a lot of buildings are located in a parking lot

>>95191352
Illumination have found the golden ratio of effort:profits, and they're exploiting it to their heart's content.
See, they realized something a long time ago; there's no actual incentive to actually make a good movie, because you can actually just make a mediocre movie that appeals to the lowest common denominator, and it'll actually make more money.

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>>95192207

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>>95196645
>>95197833
>it's the Chinese control Hollywood meme again

>>95191209
No. Kill YOURSELF you memeing fag.

>>95190763
I need to watch this again. I loved the tone and the jokes in this movie.

It was better than 2, at least?

>>95210593
Say what?

>>95210716
There's a conspiracy theory going around that China pays off Hollywood to make movies like Kung Fu Panda that cater to Chinese moviegoers.

>>95210798
That's odd because I know they did show KFP over there and it got a poor reception. Actually, China is a pretty poor place to show movies because they're subjected to huge censorship and the CCP has a strict limit of under 10 foreign films per year can be shown in China.

>>95210798
Less conspiracy theory and more the idea that China having had a upsurge in living standards and being the most poulus counry in the world means companies think there is a untapped market there that they REALLY want to get and are now going out of their way to attain.

>>95210872
>and more the idea that China having had a upsurge in living standard
Have you actually been there? Outside of the tourist areas it's somewhere between Eastern Europe and Africa in terms of living standards.

>>95193552
This looks like shit

>>95210901
Of course, but i said "idea", it doesn't matter if it is true if people enough people think there is (i think the trend started with people being impressed by the Olympics)

Remember, Amys email leaks really made people reassess just how DUMB suits are.

>>95192207
You're one ugly motherfucker

>>95210941

Every Pixar movie post TS3 looks lacking. Time to accept their era is over.

>>95210541
This anon has it right. Disney/Pixar? Actually make memorable films that you'll want to buy on Blu-ray to show your kids someday. Sony? They've actually got cartoony CGI animation down pat but the writing is usually so abysmal that not even children can stand it. Illumination? You'll still at least get the DVD, but only to plop your kids in front of so they'll quiet down for a while.

They screened Dunkirk for Chinese audiences, apparently they didn't understand the movie at all. They were bewildered why you'd make a movie about a retreat from the enemy in a war rather than a movie about triumphantly crushing the enemy.

>>95210849
>I know they did show KFP over there and it got a poor reception
What? I've always heard that they fucking loved it because it was finally a different take on Chinese culture. As in, not another Journey to the West remake or some government-approved nationalistic dreg.

>>95210901
still though there's a rising middle class.

>>95210948
>Remember, Amys email leaks really made people reassess just how DUMB suits are

You know it, man. I mean, one need only look at how brainless Fox execs are for not having pulled the plug on the Simpsons eons ago. The show is so bad now that it's tarnishing the network's image.

>>95211182
Just like mao triumphantly marching away from the army into the mountains.

>>95190746
Because you have shit taste.

>>95190787

Finding Dory was the most rote, blatant retreading of an original I've ever seen in a theatrically released sequel.

>>95190763
This movie was better than it had any right to be.

>>95190721
It's still in theaters?

Also I find it kind of interesting how sequels seem to gross more.
I guess it's cause the previous movie(s) are watched by kids so when they see ads for the new movie they're like"oh I know this!".
So it becomes some weird thing that Despicable Me's greatest achievement is making a fanbase for Minions movie to bank on.

>>95207987
>Frozen is actually one of my favourite Disney films of all time
Jesus Christ

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>>95190763

Look I liked the movie too, but david cross is always an annoying mother fucker no matter what he's voicing.

>>95211554
>Not liking Minions, Frozen and Despicable Me is considered shit taste
Really makes me think

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>>95191358

No, fuck you, it was actually an awesome movie for parents/teachers dealing with their special ed kids who really try...

>>95212121
>>95212167

Frozen is a very good movie though.

>>95190763
/co/ only likes it because it bombed in the box office and everyone else doesn't like it

>>95212167
Frozen and Dispicable Me were very good, quit letting /co/ shitposters dictate your opinions. Just because you see an OP saying it doesn't make it true

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>>95211171
It gets worse; when I said there was a formula, I MEAN that there's an actual code the fucks at Illumination follow closely to make sure that their movie is the both the bare minimum amount of effort they can put in to it's production while maximizing the amount of people it can be enjoyed by to ensure profits.
Case in point; The Lorax.
Now, I know that SING would probably work better for this example, as it's the most obvious example of the effort:profit ratio due to the subject matter of the film (Funny animals doing funny animal stuff while singing with a happy ending! Yay!), but Illumination's take on the Lorax is a special kind of evil that you don't often see now-a-days.
You probably already know why The Lorax is a bad film on its own already. They lobotomized its source material. There's little to no Moral Ambiguity. The Once-ler has a face. There is very clearly a villain in the story. The pacing's off. It's not even a true fucking musical like the original adaptation of the book that Dr. Suess oversaw. Pretty much every thing that was the work's bread and butter in the past is absent in the new film.
But did you know it actually might have surpassed the original adaptation at one point in its development?
It was going to be a musical at one point, and a Rock Opera musical at that. The Once-Ler was still going to have a face, but his arc was going to have a lot more work put into it. It might have even been paced correctly. The Once-Ler had a lot more musical numbers that were actually good, too. Once-Ler even gets a top-tier Villain song (Biggering), and if you listen, part of How Ba-a-a-ad Can I Be's lyrics are in there, so we might have gotten that INSTEAD of HBCIB.
And ALL of this great stuff was cut solely because someone at the top of the ladder thought not enough people would "get" the movie if they went down that route.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAvfgnbnGpc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZuYFbSdL-w

>>95211681
>This movie was better than it had any right to be.

because when DreamWorks tries, they TRY REALLY HARD.

>>95190721
Despicable Me 3 was honestly one of the worst movies I've seen in theaters, but I'm not surprised that it managed to crack over 1 billion bucks at the box office.

>>95212182

and Monsters University is about handicapped kids, who can help even if they're not up to task.

>>95212516
Just to reiterate; this is the kind of thing we could have gotten
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpgUQYARIsw

And this is what we DID get thanks to corporate meddling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_HUdf89hI8

The only thing that maybe makes me angrier about it is that they're going to do the same thing to How the Grinch Stole Christmas in 2018.

>>95194229
>butthurt
kill yourself

>>95193470
Lego Batman was great.

>>95212924

that was February.

>>95193378
Aliens and Terminator 2.

that was a short list.

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>>95213020
KFP2 and Shrek 2.

Magascars as a whole are meh, but they're better with each one.

I wonder how Disney will do.

>>95213116
>KFP2
only one i will fight

but thats purely personal!
as for disney
i want the incredibles 2 to be good, like REALLY bad.

>>95213020
The Rescuers Down Under

Fievel Goes West

Toy Story 2

>>95213158

>i want the incredibles 2 to be good, like REALLY bad.

They got the whole band back together for it and Brad Bird don't take no executive meddling for shit. I am optimistic for IIncredibles.

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>>95212157
Action Bills.

>>95210593
>>95210798
How is it a meme or conspiracy theory? It's not secret at all. Movie studios and their Chinese counterparts talk very openly about trying to get approved as one of the few foreign movies that are shown in China by jumping through all the necessary hoops (partnering with a Chinese studio, filming some parts of the movie in China, never showing the CCP in a negative light, using Chinese actors, profit-sharing with a Chinese distributor, technology transfers to a Chinese movie producer, etc). China doesn't "pay off" hollywood, rather it's the other way around. Hollywood pays off various Chinese companies and bends to appease Chinese government censors in order to gain access to the Chinese market.

You can say that those anons are exaggerating the influence China has on Hollywood. You can say that most movies ignore the Chines market. But to say that no movie ever consciously tries to appeal to Chinese censors/consumers is objectively wrong.