Tensions Run High Between Marvel And ABC After Disappointing

Are there any plans for more Legion because that's the only marvel show I care about

>if season two happens.
Fucking lol

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Will the Mouse give him the boot?

>>95179322
season 2 has been announced.

>the only marvel show I care about

Same.

You mean these characters that no one really cares about tv show sucks. Color me surprised

>>95179322
>>95179253
both shows are non-canon

>>95179405
No one cares nerd

>>95179405
And yet Legion is still better than any MCU movie out there, fancy that.

>>95179468
>legion
>mcu

legion is non-canon to x men cinematic universe.

>>95179468
Logan, Deadpool and Legion are better than anything Marvel gave us so far in both series and movies.

Fox is hit and miss but when they hit is always a perfect score.

>>95179363
everybody wants ike gone

feige is the studio golden child
comic fans for obvious reason
i'm sure iger hates the headache that ike has become
etc

but ike owns so much stock that it's impossible, they have to wait for him to die

>>95179637
> Logan
great

> deadpool
fun, but still meme

> legion
great

still not better than everything marvel ever did

and when fox misses they miss hard

gifted, apoc, phoenix looks like shit with more jlaw again

>>95179253
she shaved her hair for that shitty series, Jesus

>>95179363
I hope Irma hits his house.

>>95179253
Will this affect Agents of SHIELD?

>>95180880
They can force him to retire, I mean don't tell me those rich cunts at Disney don't have a master plan to take one of their own out if they get too unbearable.

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>>95180880
>they have to wait for him to die
No they don't

>>95181962
>don't tell me those rich cunts at Disney don't have a master plan to take one of their own out if they get too unbearable
Sorry, Batman works for Warners

>>95179253
>According to Variety, the IMAX investment means Inhumans is effectively paid for regardless of its theatrical performance or how many viewers it draws in on ABC. That could explain why Marvel appeared to scrimp and save on the show and why the costumes to special effects were problematic.

I guarantee Perlmutter thought people would eat this dog shit up just because of the Marvel logo on it and as a result he demanded extreme cuts, even for him, in the belief that he'd be swimming in profit.

>>95181962
You don't 'retire' your shares in a company.

X GON GIVE IT TO YA

>>95179253
JUST

>>95181962
They're not gonna spend however many billions it takes to buyout his share of the company. Old Jew wouldn't even care about public humiliation. He would have to go to prison or die.

>>95180880
don't forget he has control of the video games to so who ever runs that must hate him too

>>95180930
And got payed a shitload of money for it. Poor girl.

>>95182568
>however many billions it takes to buyout his share
$25K buys you someone without a name with Marine sniper skills

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>>95179253
>some big changes are now made behind the scenes

My money is on Loeb getting the boot. He's the dumbass who hired Buck on IF, kept him on for Inhumans, and provided the non-direction that resulted in Defenders being mediocre as fuck.

>>95183207

yeah he sucks

why is a comic book writer a TV executive?

>>95181962
>a master plan
What's the next step of it? Crashing Marvel with no survivors?

>>95183254
>Crashing Marvel with no survivors?
Marvel's doing a fine job of that all by themselves, really.

>>95183022
>forgetting that ike was in the mossad/kidon

Imagine my surprise.

>>95180907
>fun, but still meme
This is a world of genes and memes, you are just living in it.

How bad is Inhumans? CW stuff are mostly bad but you can watch them with your brain off yet reviewers seem to be okay with those shows.

>>95181962
Backstabbing your executives is a Disney tradition. Eisner and Iger both did it lots of times. But Ike owns huge amounts of stock, up there with George Lucas and Steve Jobs' wife, and unlike them he stayed with the company after it was acquired.

>>95182135
But you sell them back to the company at higher than market value

>>95180930
>Look better than previously
>Get paid a fuckload of money
Wow what a tragedy

>>95183854
Not when you see them trending up anyway.
> Hey, do you want to make an extra 30 cents on the dollar today or wait a week and have that same stock shoot up 800%m

>>95179363
I fucking wish. There's a lot of things at Marvel Entertainment that suck right now, but he's easily the biggest cancer on the brand.

>>95179405

So ? Some of the best cape comics ever written were non canon and anybody who watches these shows just because they're (barely) tied to the MCU needs to kill themselves

>>95179405
And? I don't watch TV shows for canons, I watch them because they're good.

>>95183802

Well we don't know yet anon

>>95180930
It grows back.

>>95183230
his son is dead

>>95179322
legion's not a marvel show.

>>95183616
He's also 80.

>>95183230
unparalleled cronyism

>>95183616
>forgetting those kids with rocks he shot and killed in the six day war

>>95179253
Look at their attention to quality. They even make their own JUST memes.

>>95183863
Cancer fetishists are the worst.

>>95183207
>>95183230
Nope, he just won an inkpot award for his TV work. He's staying whether we like it or not. Plus he's Jewish so he's in regardless

>>95179322
Fox senpai

>>95184386
I see you've never heard of Texas

>>95179322
I just want more Shadow King.
He's the only live-action show villain who's close to being as good as Kingpin.

>>95179253
>>95180930
Now that she shaved her head I think she looks like Joslyn James...

>>95179295
Underrated post

>>95179363
Is he ruining everything he can under Marvel out of spite for the Fox and Marvel Studios stuff?
There were those stories of him flying off the handle just seeing x-men posters, I imagine it only got worse when Disney gave Feige complete control of the movies.

>>95180907
Gifted is still probably gonna be better than shithumans

>>95179363
I thought he was already out

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>>95179405

>>95179529
No one implied it wasnt you tard

>>95184335
It is, actually. It's co-produced by Marvel Television, and Loeb oversees it.

>>95182985
>>95183863
>paid a shitload/fuckload of money
You two have no idea how Ike operates if you think she got payed any more than the bare minimum possible.

>>95179253

It was a miracle I humans was made to begin with, as I understand it.

>>95183802
If you like the Inhumans, it's the biggest rage-inducingly shit slap in the face you could possible imagine. If you don't like or care about the Inhumans, there's nothing here that'll change your mind about them. It's a lose-lose either way.

>>95179253
Was it worth it Ike? Was it really worth it?

How many years was it? Like 5-6 years or so? 5 years of screwing over the X-Men just so you can make your little pets the new dominant "team" in Marvel and for fucking what?

>>95179363
Isn't he one of the largest Marvel shareholders?

>>95188939
>Marvel shareholders
You mean Disney. He's the third highest Disney shareholder.

>>95179405
The quality of comics would improve considerably if we had a second Holocaust for everyone who cared about canon.

>>95183230
He's not even a good comic book writer or producer
>Ruined Heroes
>Kept Smallville shitty
>Ultimates 3
>Ultimatum
>Sunglehandedly ruins Marvel animation

It's clear the good things that have come out of Marvel TV are not his doing

>>95189854

>Ruined Heroes

Tim Kring did that on his own. Heroes tanked when Fuller left.

>>95189765
>being this edgy about picture books on a Korean woodworking forum

Wew lad

>>95189854
Loeb is best when Tim Sale is with him to reign him in.
>Batman: The Long Halloween
>Superman For All Seasons
>Marvel's color series

>>95189891
I fucking wish this was a korean woodworking forum.

>>95184335
>>95179529
Thank God for that too

>>95189718
Yeah, that's what I meant.

You wouldn't happen to know what percentage he owns, and who the top 2 are?

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>>95179253
I dont know why they would push the inhumans anyway. They seem like a bunch of assholes, even compared to the xmen and they dont have cartoon nostalgia backing them up.

The pleb: Disney Marvel
The contrarian: DC
The patrician: Fox

>>95190170
Lucas and Jobs wife. Only one that comes kn top of them is the CEO who is iger

>>95181962
>They can force him to retire, I mean don't tell me those rich cunts at Disney don't have a master plan to take one of their own out if they get too unbearable.

Problem is that Ike is already the Batman of that. You can't outjew the king.

>>95180880
He's rich and old
He's not going to die anytime soon

>>95189854
>>95184299
I am almost certain that everything Loeb has done since Sam died has been out of spite at the world for robbing him of his son.

His work on the Ultimates wasn't just bad, it actively ruined the line going forward. He took good animation off the air pointlessly. And now, on TV, he throws his weight behind projects that fundamentally misunderstand the characters they're adapting for the first time, leaving an indelible stain on the characters in public perception.

>>95191416
>You can't outjew the king.
Stan Lee did.

>>95184335
BUt it is, all these rigths belong to Marvel and we don't know the deal that they have with Fox, but don't think disney sell that, I don't think we could see Daredevil or Inhumans there but could be

>>95179295

Fpbp

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>>95179253
>tfw all capeshit tv is awful
>tfw you got one amazing season of Daredevil
>tfw after that, its just dogshit CW shows, the pointlessness of AoS and the failures of all the other Netflix shows include The Defenders
I honestly don't even care. I am curious what Feige's Inhumans movie would have been like, obviously there'd be more effort than what we're seeing here.

>>95191694
Feige never had proper plans for an Inhumans movie; he went along with it because Perlmutter wanted it.

>>95191720
I'm sure there was a script or at least a treatment they had though.

>>95189854
>was fired before Heroes went to shit
>wrote some of the best Smallville episodes
>Ultimate work deviated massively from his original plan and was great after Ultimatum
>was given orders to create a new Avengers EMH sequel with Man of Action only to have the change to synergy from up high after The Avengers film success
>not including Ike's penny pinching
Loeb is fine, his award even shows Disney knows it's not his fault Ike is fucking around

>>95188797
>If you like the Inhumans, it's the biggest rage-inducingly shit slap in the face you could possible imagine.

I saw the IMAX version and thought it was decent. Not great. But not terrible, either. Would give it a 7/10.

Where does that place me on the rage spectrum?

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>>95192455
>>was fired before Heroes went to shit
Heroes went to shit from the S1 finale on
>wrote some of the best Smallville episodes
Falso
>Ultimate work deviated massively from his original plan and was great after Ultimatum
Tell me, did his original plan include turning Ultimate Pyro into a rapist out of nowhere or having Blob eat the Wasp? I'm sure those details came from on high, huh?
>was given orders to create a new Avengers EMH sequel with Man of Action only to have the change to synergy from up high after The Avengers film success

If you think what's wrong with Marvel Animation is "muh synergy" then you have your head up your ass. Loeb outright stated that he thought kids don't understand serialized storytelling even though his fucking 14 y/o son wrote comics professionally until his death. Also, he came on S2 of Avengers EMH and wouldn't you know it the quality of episodes immediately took a noticeable hit when he did.

>not including Ike's penny pinching
>muh Ike scapegoat maymay

Ike is a mean spiteful cheapass, but not literally every bad decision in Marvel is his fault. Loeb getting a stupid award means jack shit and I'm not sure why you keep bringing it up. He's majorly at fault for the Inhumans situation, IF, Marvel Animation, and the lack of clear direction for Marvel Netflix. Why you're defending him with such half assed arguments when there are plenty of people here who have complained about his bullshit for years I have no idea.

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>>95192455
>>Ultimate work deviated massively from his original plan and was great after Ultimatum
>Loeb

>>95192455
>and was great after Ultimatum
HAHAHAHAHA. Holy fucking shit.
Post-Ultimatum shit sucked until Hickman came in and by the time he came most people lost any interest in the universe. It was so terrible that even everyone's beloved USM took a nosedive in quality. The closest to "good" Loeb did was the Ultimate X mini which was still mediocre at best.

>>95191508
god damn did he ever

>>95179529
>legion is non-canon to x men cinematic universe.
Fox is playing fast and loose with canon anyway. Over half their movies are arguably non-canon to at least some of the other movies. The solo movies generally don't even bother to explicitly really tie-into anything seriously.

So are we going to get a bunch of people saying that Inhumans is "Kino" or is it so bad that people won't even bother being unironically ironic.

>>95192827
Not that anon, but Loeb did do some of the best early Smallville
>that episode where Clark's graduation ring is Red K
>that episode where Lex has Lionel's office bugged only for the buggers to take Lionel and Martha hostage
>that episode when Alicia returns
I'll give you the last episode Christopher Reeves was in, but even then it wasn't bad. The rest were great

KICK IKE THE FUCK OUT.

>>95193641
At this point, all anyone has seen is the pilot. It's entirely possible that the pilot is the weakest episode and it improves from there. Probably not, but maybe. We won't really know until it's actually getting shown.

>>95179637
>logan
good movie, but still a terrible interpretation of wolverine

>deadpool
jokes are already dated, movie is as overrated as joss whedon

>legion
take and art student who is obsessed with david lynch, and yet was raised and molded by adam sandler movies.

Inhumans gassing inferior mutants when?

>>95191694
>tfw you got two amazing seasons of Daredevil

ftfy, faggot

>ike gets the boot
>feige gets to play with the TV show toys
>we see AoS/Defenders in Infinity War 2

pls give me energy

>>95191742
the star wars prequels had a script treatment back in 1983, it was 1 paragraph. it really doesn't make a difference.

>>95193275
i'd say the only ones that are canon are x1 and x2. nothing else makes sense with the others

>>95194110
i just want a daredevil/spider-man 20-30 minute one shot. or kingpin in a spider-man movie where the arc is that he is in no way mature enough for the kind of stuff daredevil deals with.

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S O O N

>>95191694
if it would go straight to MSTK3, then people might watch it

>>95194143
Maybe we could get REAL lucky, the next movie can be actually good and those won't be "canon" anymore.

>>95181962
Too much work for a measly comics division. And the TV side has been solid so far, even after all the flak Iron Fist got it did pretty good in ratings and views.

Inhumans so far has been the only total disappointment. We still need to see how Runaways, New Warriors and C&D turn out.

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>>95195077
>the TV side has been solid so far, even after all the flak Iron Fist got it did pretty good in ratings and views.

>>95186498
He's out of Marvel Studios, but not the comic division.

AoS is gonna suffer for it, isn't it? And it just got good.

>>95195601
Were did this AoS gets good meme come from?

The fact is, $2.6 million dollars from IMAX showings may mean it made a profit, because if how it looks is any indicator, they barely spent a dime on this show.

Then again, even with billions of dollars could you make the Inhumans look anything other than a cheap and nasty pile of shit?

>>95195601
Doesn't matter it seems AoS is ending after this season anyways.

Good fucking riddance I say.

>>95179405
i dont think canon matters anymore with the X-men franchise

>>95179363
We must whatever meme magic we have to make Stan consume ike

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>destroyed one of your biggest just to push C list characters
>it fails at every step possible
>the magnum opus is already a failure
post yfw your not Ike

>>95183207
Loeb is just a pawn

>>95196642
>And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling MCU actors and producers!

>>95191742
nothing came out of it, the movie kept being delayed, we only got a first look when it was already anounced to be a tv show

>>95194110
>Feige increases the budgets of tv shows
>this opens the door to Moon Knight, Ghost Rider or a proper Iron Fist

>>95196748
>Gunn finally gets to make a Moon Knight TV show
Let's keep them in the movie ghetto shall we?

>>95191508
Based

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>>95194094
Whoa whoa whoa. One-and-a-half, at best, son.

>>95186498

Yes he's out. OUT OF HIS MIND!

>>95196944
Frankino will save Netflix

>>95183802
Arrow and Flash are good if you ignore the female characters

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>>95179253
>mfw I feel sorry for this qt
I'll watch it for her. Nah, I can't do cape shows. 99.99% are shit.

>>95189765
>second Holocaust
>(((implying)))

>>95181933
>network television
fucking rube