Was Rick making a whole world to power his car unethical?

>>95173942
Yes

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>>95173942
no, what are you talking about.
rick is this totally relatable person who does no wrong at all ever.

>>95173942
No

>>95173942
It doesn't matter if it was or wasn't. It only matters that he was able to do it.

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>>95173962
neck yourself contrafag

>>95173942
No

The people in his world looked happy and ran a decent society

No. But smashing a universe that did nothing wrong (the tiny-teeny verse. The scientist didn't even develop the species) was unethical.

>>95173942
No. It only started to get unethical when he threatend to destroy the universe if they refuse to power his car.

>>95173942
Still holding out for Zeep to get some form of revenge.

>>95173942
Why couldn't Rick just simply use the microverse's new power source to power his car? and obviously rig it so he gets most of the power.

And then the Microverse does the same with the Miniverse and so on?

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>>95174017
As long as he made something to make him stop aging, as time goes a lot faster in his world.

>>95174024
Then the Stephen Colbert alien would just get uppity again in a month and try to upstage Rick. Colbert can just make two more miniverse and use one to power the volcano.

He got this idea from a Ted talk where someone said its more likely were in some simulations simulation than were the supreme reality. And obvious matrix references. All in all good ep

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Why didn't he just create another universe?

>>95173942
Not really, if he made it and contained it. Especially if it's all those people know, that's how they live, and there really isn't a higher purpose or ability for higher purpose for them. It's no different from keeping ants in an ant farm. It's all good if they're not hurting and living how they'd live otherwise, but you're just reaping the benefits of their contained living. What would be fucked up is if he captured and enslaved people to power his car.

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>>95173942
Using a sapient species may have been unethical (depending on how he treated them, and Rick can be pretty awful to be around) rather than just harvesting the energy of a non-sapient construction or even setting up some weird natural phenomenon.

One 'could' however adopt a moral imperative to promote life, consciousness and thought, in which case it become quite good, if maintained properly and respectful (again, not likely for Rick, he doesn't even respect himself, much less a disposable battery device.)

>>95175030
One could argue that he did display some level of concern for his subjects as he didn't immediately just make a new microverse battery, but that very probably takes more effort than just descending into the world and bullying his subjects. Of course, there's the argument that he should operate as he wished whoever built his own universe did (essentially, a Creator God) however, Rick doubtlessly doesn't hold a very high opinion for any Creator, hypothetical or otherwise, so that combines with his character to result in his own sloppy methods.

The world and all within it ARE within his property and power to do with as he pleases, however he loses any right to plead against a similar situation happening to his own world by setting a poor precedant.

>>95174165
Probably first saw this exact idea as a teenager reading webcomics back in 2001, pic related.

>>95173942
Yes. But there's a flip side to that!

Fuck it.

>>95173942
Does it matter? Theyre not leaving anyways. It has no impact on the real world. Nobody should care.

>>95173942
that was a good episode. fuck season 3.

>>95173942
It's an entire created world that wouldn't exist if he didn't do that, it's hard to say how much ethics apply.

>>95175466
> It has no impact on the real world.
>real world

Rick and Morty are dimension hoppers who have engaged in diplomacy and relationship building with the nightmares within nightmares, the very term 'real' doesn't relate to anything within their spectrum.

They arn't even the 'real' rick or morty for their dimension!

>>95175361
The idea comes from simulation theory. Basically if simulations are possible that means that other more advanced groups can make near endless ones. If the possibility for near endless simulations is there, then it's infinitely more likely that we are one of the simulations, since they outnumber the "real" universes.

>>95173942
Depends. They wouldn't exist at all unless he needed them if he hadn't made them.

Was him smashing the other universe when they got out of it unethical? Oh yeah.
Threatening to destroy it if they don't give up their energy to him? Yeah.

Creating for that purpose probably not.Refusing to let them have any real choice in the matter is.

>>95175030
At that moment, he didn't have the time and resources to do it. He was out with Summer and Morty when the battery broke down, he needed to get his car home.

>>95174024
Rick's gooble-boxes ran under the principle that they generated alleged "waste energy" that Rick used for himself.

Zeep's miniverse probably didn't generate as much energy as Rick's gooble-boxes, meaning that, from their perspective, there wasn't any "waste energy" to "dispose of". Plus, while Rick likely had the luxury of being able to set up the power grid entirely by himself with the gooble-boxes, if he wanted to be able to siphon off of Zeep's miniverse he would've probably had to work around him and his technology, likely leading to some compatibility issues and probing questions from Zeep that could blow the whole operation for Rick (if he was able to get his hands into it at all).

>>95175586
I'm also part of the Dwarf Fortress fanbase... the eventual ethics and implications really advanced simulation theory has been a part of my life for close to a decade at this point. I'm just pointing to a comic where I first encountered this exact idea of 'using a bottled universe as a morally questionable power source'.

>>95175361
>early 2000's webcomics
jesus christ how horrifying

>>95173942
Who gives a fuck? is the right answer. If the people living that world is living in a functional happy lie then let them.

>>95173942
alright, i just have to ask, what will be the premise of this sundays episode? has their been any news at all?

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>>95173942
>chooses a few billion people to peddle power
>not having a Dyson swarm around 1 star

>>95173942
Alright brainlets.

If you view his "world" as a homogeneous entity he created, no. If you view his world as a group of sentient beings being forced against their will, yes. Sentience determines the morality; otherwise it would just be farming. Rick sees the matter in that he's "the creator of that universe" so that gives him control over its morality. However, this assumption implies that Rick considers that universe its own autonomous entity in which its morality is self-contained; yet that's fallacious in that he's imposing himself on it to get the power therefore ruining autonomy and making its morality no more subject than any other system. To do this Rick would have to philisophically be a two-faced, self-serving asshole.

>>95175776
Yeah, it's.... yeah. I vaguely remembered the art being a LOT better. Still impressed it's apparently STILL running with near constant updates.

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>your entire culture powers his brakelights

>>95175825
So Gordon lost his shit over a single Dyson sphere orbiting a star? I thought that it was orbiting a universe or something.